Re: voice over speed hack for osx

[Geoff Waaler]

Hi Sarah,

Excellent presentation and information as always, but I have the impression 
that getting an altered prefs file to transfer to the desired location on an 
IOS device would necessitate a JB?


Best regards.
Geoff

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From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com

To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: voice over speed hack for osx



Here you  go.

http://www.tffppodcast.com/how-to-change-voice-overs-rate-to-something-above-100-percent/


On Mar 11, 2014, at 4:11 PM, Geoff Stephens geoffsli...@gmail.com wrote:

I would like to use Samantha at 130 percent.  I currently use it at 100 
percent and it seems very slow.  Does anyone know how to find this hack 
posted on twitter?


On Mar 11, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

Hey, it's what ever floats our boat., I personally use samantha at 130 
percent, yes, 130 percent, thanks to a hack someone posted on twitter and 
I did a podcast on a very long time ago. She's very responsive for me.


Tc all and have a very happy tuesday.
On Mar 11, 2014, at 8:53 AM, JAKE JOEHL jajo...@att.net wrote:

I was *really* looking forward to trying it out, but thanks for the 
heads up. Personally I think Alex is good enough, along with the other 
voices on my Mac.

Jake
JAKE JOEHL
jajo...@att.net



On Mar 10, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Christopher gilland 
ch...@clgproductions.com wrote:


That's exactly, Sarah, what I thought of when I read the readme.  You 
read my mind!


Hopefully, you all got my other message about the infected file.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami 
marri...@gmail.com

To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: New Voice Synthesizer For OSX


I read the directions and it looks way too complex for me to try. I 
did have wine installed once, and on once.


the catch is this, you need to have the server running. I wonder what 
happens if you forget to switch voice and accidental close out the 
server. Will it revert to what ever voice you had before switching to 
read?


take care.
On Mar 10, 2014, at 6:57 PM, Christopher gilland 
ch...@clgproductions.com wrote:


Oh? my? god!  Eloquence? for the mac?  Pardon my language, but, 
you're shitting me!


Dane? if this works, you are gonna make my night? week, month, year, 
decade, century, and millennium!


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan 
grtd...@internode.on.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 9:21 PM
Subject: New Voice Synthesizer For OSX



http://allinaccess.com/software/


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Re: looking for a good mp3 tag remover

[Geoff Waaler]

Greetings Deb,

After visiting the URL that Esther referenced below, I noticed hyperlinked 
text: download ID3 editor for Mac or Windows, which presented download links 
for ID3 on all supported platforms, as well as other PA-Software offerings.  I 
selected the download link for the Windows file and was presented with a 
questionnaire page where I was expected to tell them where I heard about the 
product and why I wanted it, etc.  I blew all fo those off and pressed enter on 
the download button and the file saved just fine.  YMMV on the mac since I 
didn't actually test that.  The hyperlink I included above should land you on 
that download page.

HTH.
Geoff


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From: Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: looking for a good mp3 tag remover


I’ve tried in both Mac and Windows to download the ID3 editor referenced in 
this email. I’ve had no success in any environment. What am I missing? Would 
love to use this I’m sure.

Deb

On Jan 20, 2014, at 5:09 PM, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote:

 Hello Michael,
 
 ITunes lets you select multiple tracks and use the Get Info shortcut 
 (Command-I on the Mac, Control-I in Windows) to edit tracks.  However, if you 
 don't want to use iTunes! you can try a program named ID3 Editor by 
 Pa-software, which can also be run from a command line interface, if you wish 
 (for people who like this option):
 http://www.pa-software.com/id3editor/
 ID3 Editor  £10.00 (GBP), €12.00 (Euro) or $15.00 (USD)
 
 I know this works through Mountain Lion, but I don't know the status of its 
 support under Mavericks. There are some people on this list who are using 
 this, I think, and may be able to report on Mavericks support,
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Jan 20, 2014, at 2:38 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 hey all,
 in my windows days i had a program called mp3 tag. with this program i could 
 remove tags from mp3 files and a hole lot of stuff.
 i have looked for so long and just can not find a mac equivalent.
 mp3 tag could work in batch moad so i could edit hundreds of files at a time.
 does anyone have any suggestions on this?
 thanks for any help
 
 Michael
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Re: Apple's Xcode tutorial

[Geoff Waaler]

Hi Laurel and others,

In my experience, the silence was deafening when posting such questions 
here.  Once I received a private reply suggesting that I join the MV-DEV 
group.  Until recently, that sadly was a dead list, and I assumed that 
StoryBoards and InterfaceBuilder were pretty much unusable with VO. 
Recently, the MV-DEV list has come back to life, and apparently there are 
blind developers who are successfully exploiting these xCode features.  I 
have a lot to learn before I get out of lurking mode over there, but the one 
time I tried the tutorial I was totally lost and became discouraged before 
discovering a work-around.


Anyway, the link for the MV-DEV list is:

http://groups.google.com/group/mv-dev

From recent activity, I would think you'll have much better luck if you 

repost over there, and I will definitely follow the thread!!

Best regards.
Geoff


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From: Laurel and Stockard laurel.stock...@gmail.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 8:53 PM
Subject: Apple's Xcode tutorial


Hi guys, so, I found a tutorial on starting out with Xcode by Apple. It 
starts by having you create a simple to do list app. I've made it as far 
as the create storyboard heading section, but now I'm stuck. Could 
somebody who is good at Xcode/with voiceover take a look at this and help 
me get unstuck? So far I've been able to make everything work well with 
voiceover. Here is the link 
https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/referencelibrary/GettingStarted/RoadMapiOS/FirstTutorial.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40011343-CH3-SW1


So, if somebody could give me some voiceover tutorials for creating 
storyboards and working with that and the next sections of the tutorial, 
I'd appreciate it. I'd also appreciate knowing what you guys think of this 
tutorial as a whole, helpful, or not.

Thanks
Laurel
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Re: Apparently Touch ID doesn't like 180-degree unlock attempts - TUAW

[Geoff Waaler]

In my experience, touch ID fails more often than it works at any angle. 
I've gotten it to function at 180 degrees before, hence from my experience, 
I doubt the orientation has any baring.  Its a great concept, but I'm 
strongly considering disabling it because it gets old entering one's pass 
code all the time after one minute of not touching the phone.


I am running IOS 7.04, and still touchID is only working about 20% of the 
time.


Best regards.
Geoff


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Subject: Apparently Touch ID doesn't like 180-degree unlock attempts - TUAW




I don't own a iPhone 5s, but can anyone attest to this 
http://m.tuaw.com/2013/11/19/apparently-touch-id-doesnt-like-180-degree-unlock-attempts/

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Re: VO Volume problem on the 5S

[Geoff Waaler]

I had this problem initially.  The volume was loud initially, but once I 
turned it down below 35% it would not go above that.  I reverted to factory 
settings and among other things, that restored my VO volume.  I then removed 
the volume slider from my rotor and its been fine ever since.  I'm afraid to 
test this on IOS 7.04 because of what one must go through to restore the 
volume on a 5S once its been reduced.


The down side of course is that VO blasts while on calls.  I hope VO doesn't 
become the orphan child of IOS as has happened in the MACOSX world.


Best regards.
Geoff

- Original Message - 
From: Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: VO Volume problem on the 5S



I believe this is a bug as I've seen this on applevis site.


On Nov 19, 2013, at 16:02, Eric Caron eric_ca...@mac-access.net wrote:

Hi listers,

   My iPhone 5S volume will only go up to 35 percent.  I've tried raising 
it in the Roter and I've tried removing it from the roter and using the 
volume buttons pressed while VO is talking.


I believe I read somewhere that this is either a iOS 7 bug or a iPhone 5 
S bug.


I suspect iPhone 5 as my 4S sas it is going up to 100 percent and it does 
sound louder.


I tried also removing volume from the roter and restarting my phone. 
Again no change.


Anyone else having this 5S problem?  Any solutions?

Eric Caron
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Re: Apparently Touch ID doesn't like 180-degree unlock attempts - TUAW

[Geoff Waaler]

Hi Eric,

Thanks for the note.  I did that, but it didn't help.  After reading that 
blog post though, I concluded that others were getting much better results; 
after all, that person seemed surprised when it didn't work.  Anyway, I set 
it up again using the finger tips of two fingers rather than the middle, and 
my results are vastly improved (even at a 180 degree angle).


Best regards.
Geoff

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From: Eric Caron eric_ca...@mac-access.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: Apparently Touch ID doesn't like 180-degree unlock attempts - 
TUAW




Hi Jeff,

I've found touch iD to work just about every time for me.  I read 
somewhere that if you are not finding it reliable you should go back to 
settings and delete your finger print and set it up again.  I have two 
fingers set up and I can use them both first try about 90 percent of the 
time and just about always get it on the second try if needed.  It is very 
fast for me as well.


I hope you get yours squared away.

Eric Caron

On Nov 20, 2013, at 9:32 PM, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote:

In my experience, touch ID fails more often than it works at any angle. 
I've gotten it to function at 180 degrees before, hence from my 
experience, I doubt the orientation has any baring.  Its a great concept, 
but I'm strongly considering disabling it because it gets old entering 
one's pass code all the time after one minute of not touching the phone.


I am running IOS 7.04, and still touchID is only working about 20% of the 
time.


Best regards.
Geoff


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To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 12:25 PM
Subject: Apparently Touch ID doesn't like 180-degree unlock attempts - 
TUAW





I don't own a iPhone 5s, but can anyone attest to this 
http://m.tuaw.com/2013/11/19/apparently-touch-id-doesnt-like-180-degree-unlock-attempts/

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Re: Shopping Lists was Using Pages On My iPon

[Geoff Waaler]

Greetings Dane and list,

First of all, thanks Phil for the suggestion.  I knew that the reminders app 
was powerful, but I'd never looked at lists.  Now from preliminary testing, 
I have a few suggestions for retrieving the list data.


1. Tell siri something like: show my grocery list.

2. go into reminders - list name.

Hopefully someone can come up with a better suggestion, but it appears to me 
that in order to eMail or print, you would need to traverse your list item 
by item and select and paste.  The three finger quadruple tap gesture 
introduced in IOS7 will speed up the process of copying the items, but I can 
see where this method would involve a lot of toggling around between Mail 
and Reminders if the list gets long.  Siri will read multiple items though, 
hence the gesture referenced above may save a lot more time.


As for printing, I use an app called PrinterPro by Readdle.com.  This app 
supports printing from the clipboard, texts, or eMail messages.


Best regards.
Geoff

- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: Shopping Lists was Using Pages On My iPon


Okay, I'm replying to my own message as I have a question about your 
shopping list, how do you get the output of the list when you need to go 
shopping? For example do you print it, eMail it or what?



On 7 Nov 2013, at 9:29 am, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net 
wrote:


Yes I certainly will consider this as I had no idea that Siri was so 
powerful so thanks for the suggestion, this will save me heaps of time 
and certainly will be far more convenient.



On 7 Nov 2013, at 9:25 am, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi Dane,

Sorry, I don't have any pages info, but just wanted to tell you about 
the quickest and easiest
method I've found for shopping lists. It's the built-in reminders app. I 
just set up a list called shopping, or grocery, or whatever else I need, 
and then use SIRI to populate the list as I think of things I need 
during the week.


Using Siri, you can use the add keyword to add items to your list, and 
then once finished with the list , you can easily delete them off the 
list with a  flick and tap of  the actions menu.


Example:
add eggs, butter, bread and milk to grocery list.
or, add to grocery list, eggs, butter, bread and milk
that will put a reminder in the grocery list that says eggs, butter, 
bread and milk.
As long as siri is up and running this method is so quick and easy that 
I don't bother with writing out lists in textedit or the notes program 
anymore.
The important thing is to use the keyword add, and the name of the 
list in a phrase like to shopping list.


It really works well and is just  something you might want to consider.

On Nov 6, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net 
wrote:



Hi!

I'm using Pages on my iPhone to compile my fortnightly shopping list, 
this is the second time I've used the App for this sort of thing, a 
very mundane task I know but a task that demands high priority 
nevertheless.


So to my question, I've typed out all the items I want on the list and 
I have a heading nicely centered in bold and underlined at the top of 
the document so how to number each item in the list?


I imagine that you select the text you wish to work with and then 
select Lists from the Format options? That's as far as I get, I 
can't see anything which makes reference to bulleted or numbered lists, 
I can see indenting and all the other stuff.


There are sections of the formatting screen that Voiceover doesn't read 
out though I know they're there as I can hear Voiceover skipping over 
what appears to be buttons so perhaps the bulleted and numbered list 
items are amongst those things which Voiceover isn't reading? If that's 
the case then I' wonder if there's a way of say labeling those parts 
that Voiceover isn't reading, anyone any thoughts on this?


I suppose - if worst comes to worst - I can just run back to one of the 
3 Mac machines I have here, run the Pages App  and do the numbering 
format from there.



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Re: Shopping Lists was Using Pages On My iPon

[Geoff Waaler]

Greetings Dane and list,

First of all, thanks Phil for the suggestion.  I knew that the reminders app 
was powerful, but I'd never looked at lists.  Now from preliminary testing, 
I have a few suggestions for retrieving the list data.


1. Tell siri something like: show my grocery list.

2. go into reminders - list name.

Hopefully someone can come up with a better suggestion, but it appears to me 
that in order to eMail or print, you would need to traverse your list item 
by item and select and paste.  The three finger quadruple tap gesture 
introduced in IOS7 will speed up the process of copying the items, but I can 
see where this method would involve a lot of toggling around between Mail 
and Reminders if the list gets long.  Siri will read multiple items though, 
hence the gesture referenced above may save a lot more time.


As for printing, I use an app called PrinterPro by Readdle.com.  This app 
supports printing from the clipboard, texts, or eMail messages.


Best regards.
Geoff

- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: Shopping Lists was Using Pages On My iPon


Okay, I'm replying to my own message as I have a question about your 
shopping list, how do you get the output of the list when you need to go 
shopping? For example do you print it, eMail it or what?



On 7 Nov 2013, at 9:29 am, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net 
wrote:


Yes I certainly will consider this as I had no idea that Siri was so 
powerful so thanks for the suggestion, this will save me heaps of time 
and certainly will be far more convenient.



On 7 Nov 2013, at 9:25 am, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi Dane,

Sorry, I don't have any pages info, but just wanted to tell you about 
the quickest and easiest
method I've found for shopping lists. It's the built-in reminders app. I 
just set up a list called shopping, or grocery, or whatever else I need, 
and then use SIRI to populate the list as I think of things I need 
during the week.


Using Siri, you can use the add keyword to add items to your list, and 
then once finished with the list , you can easily delete them off the 
list with a  flick and tap of  the actions menu.


Example:
add eggs, butter, bread and milk to grocery list.
or, add to grocery list, eggs, butter, bread and milk
that will put a reminder in the grocery list that says eggs, butter, 
bread and milk.
As long as siri is up and running this method is so quick and easy that 
I don't bother with writing out lists in textedit or the notes program 
anymore.
The important thing is to use the keyword add, and the name of the 
list in a phrase like to shopping list.


It really works well and is just  something you might want to consider.

On Nov 6, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net 
wrote:



Hi!

I'm using Pages on my iPhone to compile my fortnightly shopping list, 
this is the second time I've used the App for this sort of thing, a 
very mundane task I know but a task that demands high priority 
nevertheless.


So to my question, I've typed out all the items I want on the list and 
I have a heading nicely centered in bold and underlined at the top of 
the document so how to number each item in the list?


I imagine that you select the text you wish to work with and then 
select Lists from the Format options? That's as far as I get, I 
can't see anything which makes reference to bulleted or numbered lists, 
I can see indenting and all the other stuff.


There are sections of the formatting screen that Voiceover doesn't read 
out though I know they're there as I can hear Voiceover skipping over 
what appears to be buttons so perhaps the bulleted and numbered list 
items are amongst those things which Voiceover isn't reading? If that's 
the case then I' wonder if there's a way of say labeling those parts 
that Voiceover isn't reading, anyone any thoughts on this?


I suppose - if worst comes to worst - I can just run back to one of the 
3 Mac machines I have here, run the Pages App  and do the numbering 
format from there.



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loss of focus in the UI-picker view - was was Re: Tickers: Enough to drive, me, intoxicated!

[Geoff Waaler]

I can confirm Chris's observation while attempting to peruse Magazines via the 
BARD mobile app, however believe this is more of a function of how the 
UIPickerViewController in question was coded.

For example, I was trying to bring the international audience into this 
discussion by locating a scenario that anyone could test.  I first attempted to 
use the MegaBus mobile app while still on IOS6, and the picker loss of focus 
issue rendered the search and buy process unusable.  I can confirm that this 
has not changed in IOS 7.02.  I launched Safari, and went to the MegaBus USA 
site, and observed that the picker worked flawlessly; I.E. flicking up or down 
never results in the loss of focus.

So, perhaps the question is whether there is indeed a VO bug, or did the 
Developers of the BARD and MegaBus IOS apps fail to code their UIPicker view 
controllers correctly.  If the latter (which I suspect is most likely), it 
would be great if we knew what specific modifications we could suggest that 
affected developers might consider implementing in their ViewControllers so as 
to fully exploit accessibility features such as VoiceOver.

Best regards, and its a wonderful day in the neighborhood since the RedSox 
lost!!
Geoff


- Original Message - 
From: Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 7:35 PM
Subject: Tickers: Enough to drive, me, intoxicated!


 Has anyone noticed in I O S 7.02 that Apple in combination with Voiceover, 
 broke the ticker items?  Now, when there is one, you can't touch the bottom 
 half of the screen any longer to get to it... you gotta flick to it.  It's 
 the only way, case  closed.  Second of all, once focussed, if you then one 
 finger flick up to the next item, you then will completely! lose focus, then 
 you gotta flick all? the freaking way back down the screen, find? the damn 
 ticker again, then flick again, lose focus, flick down to the ticker again, 
 flick, lose focus, etc. etc?  You can't just find the thing, and one finger 
 shook shook shook shook?  This is the most aggervating thing I've seen. 
 Good luck with tickers that have over a hundred items in them!  Yes they 
 exist.  Don't believe me?  Go look at the Bard mobile app under magazines by 
 title.  Yeah, try navigating that for a while losing focus every time, then 
 tell me you're not fed up after about 2 minutes.  LOL!  Oh, and by the way, 
 there is no way from the bard web site to add magazines to your wish list, 
 so good luck going there on the pc or mac and just putting it there for 
 later download.
 
 I might have a work around, but I need to test it before I say what it is. 
 Still though, is anyone else seeing this?  This isn't just Bard Mobile 
 either.  That was only an example.  This is happenning globally across the 
 whole I O S platform regardless the app.
 
 Chris. 
 
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Re: Bluetooth commands in IOS?

[Geoff Waaler]

Hi Chris,

Option+control+page-up activates notification center, and 
option+control+page-down brings up control center regardless of focus.  IE, 
it isn't necessary to first press option+control+m to get to the status bar.


Alternatively, one can first move focus to the status bar via 
control+option+m and then the scroll page commands
would work as expected.  I.E. option+up-arrow activates notification center 
and option+down-arrow brings up control center.


HTH.
Geoff


- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 11:23 AM
Subject: Bluetooth commands in IOS?







Sent from my iPhoneHello guys.

I am using an aluminum IMac bluetooth keyboard with my IPhone 5.  I am 
wondering with IOS 7.02, if there is any way with this keyboard to pull 
down my notifications from my status bar like I could do by tapping then 3 
finger flicking down.


Also I'm wondering if there is a way from the keyboard to bring up my 
control center.


Thank you genuinely for any help.  I really appreciate it.

Chris.


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Re: Emergency Leave

[Geoff Waaler]

Chris,

With all due respect, may I suggest that you read the bottom line of this 
(or any other) list message.


Best regards.
Geoff

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From: Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 9:59 AM
Subject: Emergency Leave


Though all is physically ok, don't worry, I do need to be basically out of 
e-mail commition for a few days, possibly upwards of a week.  I'm not 
quite ready yet to set things up, but later this evening, I'll need to 
switch my subscription to No Mail.  I'd write the support e-mail for this 
list, but this is somewhat of an urgent matter to get taken care of, and 
being Gordon and Lynn's timezone differences, I want to be sure that I 
have the info in time.  Otherwise it could be disastrous as I'll have mail 
piling up left and right.


Can someone tell me what I gotta do to go to No Mail and then what to do 
to come back when I'm feeling better?  Basically, I gotta have surgery 
tomorrow.  We'll just leave it at that.


Chris.
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Re: security pen code on unlock?

[Geoff Waaler]

Hi Andrea,

To solve this problem one would select settings - general - passcode lock. 
From there, either turn off the passcode, or set the require passcode 
value to a choice other than immediately.  I have mine set to every four 
hours, which, in my environment strikes the right balance between security 
and convenience.


HTH.
Geoff

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To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 3:16 PM
Subject: re: security pen code on unlock?



 Hi
 If all else fails, the best method might be to do a restore/reset from 
iTunes.  We were prompted to set this up when we updated our devices I 
think, but it was quite some time ago.  We don't have to enter it each 
time we unlock the device; having to do so would be incredibly irritated I 
agree.  I am not sure, it's been ages since we powered them off, but I 
think you're prompted to enter them following a power cycle.

 Gordon


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From: Andrea Breier abre...@kc.rr.com
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Date sent: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 23:03:15 -0500
Subject: security pen code  on unlock?

I have a friend that just updated her iPhone 5 to ios 7 and now would like 
to remove the 4 digit pen code that she is having to type in at unlock.
It seems that after the setup was complete, she as prompted for a 4 digit 
code several times and entered it each time.  Can this not be removed, and 
if so where and how.  Details would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks 
sincerely in advance.

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Re: voice dream skipping text or clipping parts of words

[Geoff Waaler]

Hi Brenda,
Is this a book you scanned? If so, could some extraneous punctuation
have possibly gotten into the scan results?


I would certainly be willing to test the book here, but all I can
probably do is confirm your results. You may want to run this bye The
VoiceStream support people.
Best regards
geoff

Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 3, 2013, at 9:57 AM, meadowlar...@cox.net meadowlar...@cox.net 
 wrote:

 I am having it read a cookbook I put on in .doc format. Heather does it bad.
 I've got it at 220 words per minute. The speech can be choppy at times, too.
 That's all I understand.

 Thanks,

 Brenda

 mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
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 From: Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 7:17 PM
 Subject: Re: voice dream skipping text or clipping parts of words


 Hi Brenda,
 I have not noticed this behavior yet.

 Are you able to link the problem to any specific item such as: a
 particular synthesizer, speech rate or text type?

 Best regards,
 Geoff.

 Sent from my iPhone

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 Hello all,

   Why is it that when I'm reading something with Voice Dream with my
 iPhone5 or an iPod Touch Fifth Generation, that sometimes text will skip
 or
 words will be clipped? Is there any way to stop that?

 Thanks in advance,

 Brenda

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Re: automatically alphabetizing the doc?

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Hi Sarah,
Have you tried bringing up the context menu and looking for and
arrange by option? I'm not at a point where I can actually test that
here, but recall seeing it.
Best regards
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 On Sep 3, 2013, at 12:37 PM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yeah liek I said I have over 40 items in the doc that I use and on my 3 year 
 old system vo and the whole thign just  lags and reads the wrong icons and 
 stuff when I sometimes move stuff hence the solution for automitically doing 
 this.

 On Sep 3, 2013, at 6:54, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:

 I've just rearranged my Dock with cmd option left/right arrow, and it took 
 no time, and this is with quite  a few items in there. It wouldn't let me 
 move the finder or trash folder though -

 Andy.
 On 3 Sep 2013, at 14:41, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Lol. Not with 30 or so icons on the doc and for me vo seems to lag a lot 
 when I do this. and yes you can alphabetize the stuff to the right of the 
 separator. I've done that already.
 On Sep 3, 2013, at 3:31 AM, Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk wrote:

 Hello,

 Surely you can move them yourself into the order you require? From memory 
 it is option + left or right arrow. You are limited in moving the folder 
 section but the app icons can be reordered.

 HTH

 Gena

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 Training and Coaching.
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 On 3 Sep 2013, at 05:00, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 I know how to do the cmd option left and right arrow to move items on the 
 doc but I don't' want to do this for 20 or more items to the left of the 
 splitter. Is there a way to auto put these thing sin ABC order? I tried 
 looking on google but got no ware on the hunt for an answer.

 Even onyx doesn't have a trick. lo;l!

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Re: voice dream skipping text or clipping parts of words

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Hi Brenda,
I have not noticed this behavior yet.

Are you able to link the problem to any specific item such as: a
particular synthesizer, speech rate or text type?

Best regards,
Geoff.

Sent from my iPhone

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 Hello all,

Why is it that when I'm reading something with Voice Dream with my
 iPhone5 or an iPod Touch Fifth Generation, that sometimes text will skip or
 words will be clipped? Is there any way to stop that?

 Thanks in advance,

 Brenda

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Re: E-mail client?

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Chris, have you ever heard of Google?

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 25, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Chris Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote:

 Wonder where it could be obtained?

 Chris.

 - Original Message - From: matthew dyer 
 ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 9:24 AM
 Subject: Re: E-mail client?


 Hi Chris,

 Yes there is a mac version of eudora, but not sure how accessible it
 is how ever.  HTH.




 Matthew



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 there is a version of Eudora for the Mac, and if so is it accessible?

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Re: can't get Voice Dream to recognize Dropbox

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Hi Brenda,

It sounds like you're describing the visible options after selecting
the add button.  You're on the right track, however before the
dropbox option will appear, you'll need to select the settings
button (three buttons to the right of add) and under the accounts
heading, select dropbox and enable it.

HTH and best regards.
Geoff

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 On Aug 21, 2013, at 2:15 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net meadowlar...@cox.net 
 wrote:

 Hello all,

I don't know why this is, but I cannot get Voice Dream to recognize
 dropbox in an iPod Touch Fifth Generation. First off, I installed Voice
 Dream before the dropbox account was set up. When I had done this in my
 iPhone5, I had already had a dropbox account, so I didn't have this problem,
 but now I do. How do I get Voice Dream to recognize the account? It has
 Gutenberg, iTunes, Web Browser, Editor, Clipboard, ; that's all. There is
 not a bookshare option. That's Okay, because this person doesn't have an
 account with them. I just created her the dropbox account. The app is
 installed on this iPod. Now what?

 Thanks in advance,

 Brenda



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Re: can we make folders in Voice Dream?

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Hi Brenda,

In the main Voice Dream window, there is a button in the upper left corner that 
toggles betweenhome and folders.
 
When folders is selected, you will notice an add button which is located at 
the top of the window near the center of the screen.  That button presents a 
dialog where you can name a folder.  As you may already know, one of the items 
in Voice Dream's settings allows Voice Dream to link with DropBox.  Assuming 
that you've done this, you can import files into a specific folder from dropbox 
as follows.

1. Select folders.
2. Select the target folder under my folders.
3. Select the add button which is located in the bottom left corner of the 
window.
4. select dropbox.
5. Select the folder of interest, and double tap the file to import it into 
VoiceDream.

It is not possible to drag files around within a folder, but you can use the 
sort order button and choose between add date, title, author and size.

Hope this helps.
Geoff

On Aug 18, 2013, at 1:20 AM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:

 Hello all,
 
Can we make folders in Voice Dream? Ihave a bunch of recipes that people 
 have given me and they are in .rtf format. Well, I put them in, but dropbox 
 would only download one file at a time, and, of course, there's no rhyme nor 
 organization of the structure because there are no folders. I only uploaded 
 a folder that had six files in it. How can I make that folder on the iPhone 
 and so on, to get this to work?
 
If Voice Dream is not the thing, can we do it in iBooks?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 
 Brenda
 
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Re: Question about MySXM in the SiriusXM App

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Hi Orin,

I am reposting a couple paragraphs from my previous paragraph.  The first 
confirms your observation (IE that that method only works once), and the second 
describes the method that will bring up the customization dialog every time.

Best regards -- old text follows.

As a channel is playing, there are two buttons just below the status bar on the 
right edge.  The right most button located just below the battery indicator 
acts as a toggle between normal and MySXM mode, or if the playing channel was 
not previously customized, one can use that button to specify options.

Whether a channel has been customized or not, one can set options by using the 
button just to the left of the live/MYSXM toggle labeled Action header 
myEnable.  From there, select customize.  The resulting window presents 
several options, such as:
…

Geoff

On Aug 13, 2013, at 8:20 PM, Orin orin8...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 Just tried this feature of SiriusXM using the app on iOS and setting options 
 seems relotively accessible. However, how do I change it?
 For example, I set some options up on Outlaw Country and while it's nice, it 
 won't let me change it again. Pressing MySXM only just sets the options I've 
 already set. Can you really not change the options and sliders again to 
 something different? I like to experiment with these sliders.
 Thanks anyone.
 
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Re: SiriusXM app?

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Hi Orin and list,

As a channel is playing, there are two buttons just below the status bar on the 
right edge.  The right most button located just below the battery indicator 
acts as a toggle between normal and MySXM mode, or if the playing channel was 
not previously customized, one can use that button to specify options.

Whether a channel has been customized or not, one can set options by using the 
button just to the left of the live/MYSXM toggle labeled Action header 
myEnable.  From there, select customize.  The resulting window presents 
several options, such as:

Popularity adjustable 50 percent more popular Depth.  An adjustment to 20 
percent would result in substantially fewer hit songs in the rotation.

All changes need to be committed by selecting apply which is located near the 
top of the window where the fast forward button normally  would be had the 
customization not been active.

After MYSXM options have been specified, one has a choice between starting in 
normal or MYSXM mode, by either tapping on what's currently playing, or a 
button just to the right which I labeled enable MySXM.

Hope this makes sense after you've taken a look.  If not, let me know and I'll 
try and clarify a little better.

Best regards.
Geoff


On Aug 10, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Orin orin8...@gmail.com wrote:

 How does one use the MySXM feature? Didn't know you could access that through 
 the app. Want to try it.
 
 Orin
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 Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks
 Skype: orin1112
 
 
 
 On Aug 10, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have no light perception and gave it a five star rating.  Buttons are 
 unlabeled, but their functions are easily ascertained, so after taking a few 
 minutes to hunt and peck around and label a few buttons you're good to go.  
 I didn't think I'd care for the mySXM feature, but it too is perfectly 
 accessible and presents the channels quite differently.
 
 Best regards,
 Geoff
 
 
 On Aug 10, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I haven't downloaded the app to my iPhone because I don't yet subscribe.
 Has anyone tried it with VO and if so, how does it stack up for 
 accessibility?
 Thanks.
 
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Re: labelling buttons in the XM App

[Geoff Waaler]

Hi Brenda,

Just to confirm, I assume that you are talking about the SiriusXM app by 
SiriusXM?  There is no trial version, though one can obtain a five day trial 
subscription.

Okay, so on the assumption that we're discussing the same app, I was able to 
ascertain the function of all unlabeled buttons by selecting them.  At the 
bottom of the window, left to right, I labeled the five main buttons as follows:

1. Categories
2. Channels
3. Favorites
4. On Demand
5. Downloads.

While content is playing, you'll notice another button located in the center of 
the screen about a third of the way down (a bit below the play/pause button).  
I labeled that one artist info, though it will also display information about 
a channel.

Lastly, if you are listening to a channel such as 82 (Radio Classics) that 
exploits the Start now feature which allows direct access to the last five 
hours of content, there is a button in the center of the screen near the top 
that I labeled: exit list.

HTH.
Geoff
 
On Jul 7, 2013, at 2:04 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:

 Hello all,
 
Does anybody have the order of the XM app buttons? I know how to label 
 them, but don't know what they are. Does anybody know? I'd be much oblidged. 
 Ihave the real version of the app, not the trial version.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Brenda
 
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Re: labelling buttons in the XM App

[Geoff Waaler]

Hi Brenda,

While a channel is playing, you will notice a button labeled: actionHeader in 
the upper right hand corner of the window.  It is just below the battery level 
indicator status bar item, and just to the right of the artist name field.  
Anyway, when this button is selected, it will open a menu of options including: 
add show to favorites, add channel to favorites, buy song from iTunes, 
etc.

Take care, and have fun with the app.
Geoff

On Jul 7, 2013, at 5:23 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:

 Yeah, we sure are talking about the same app. And, I sure do appreciate 
 this. I'm going to keep a note of this, so I can fix it.
 
Have you figured out how to add to the favorites list?
 
 Take care,
 
 Brenda
 
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 - Original Message - 
 From: Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 4:23 PM
 Subject: Re: labelling buttons in the XM App
 
 
 Hi Brenda,
 
 Just to confirm, I assume that you are talking about the SiriusXM app by 
 SiriusXM?  There is no trial version, though one can obtain a five day trial 
 subscription.
 
 Okay, so on the assumption that we're discussing the same app, I was able to 
 ascertain the function of all unlabeled buttons by selecting them.  At the 
 bottom of the window, left to right, I labeled the five main buttons as 
 follows:
 
 1. Categories
 2. Channels
 3. Favorites
 4. On Demand
 5. Downloads.
 
 While content is playing, you'll notice another button located in the center 
 of the screen about a third of the way down (a bit below the play/pause 
 button).  I labeled that one artist info, though it will also display 
 information about a channel.
 
 Lastly, if you are listening to a channel such as 82 (Radio Classics) that 
 exploits the Start now feature which allows direct access to the last five 
 hours of content, there is a button in the center of the screen near the top 
 that I labeled: exit list.
 
 HTH.
 Geoff
 
 On Jul 7, 2013, at 2:04 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
   Does anybody have the order of the XM app buttons? I know how to label
 them, but don't know what they are. Does anybody know? I'd be much 
 oblidged.
 Ihave the real version of the app, not the trial version.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Brenda
 
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Re: A question for Apple TV Users: What hardware are you using foraudio-out?

[Geoff Waaler]

Hi Brian,

For what it's worth, I clipped the following out of my September 2011 Amazon 
order:


*** Begin clip:
Delivery estimate: Sept. 21, 2011 1Digital Coax  Optical Toslink to Analog 
Audio Converter

$27.14
In Stock
  Sold by: LowerPriceUSA.com
*** end clip

The converter came with a power adapter/chord and toslink cable.  I had to 
supply my own RCA cable so as to connect it to my ten year old Bose wave 
radio.


There are no buttons or controls on the converter, and the jacks are all 
idiot proof, hence there's no way to screw it up.  Well, except perhaps for 
the red/black output jacks for the RCA cable.  My solution to that dilemma 
is to play a stereo track through headphones and verify that it coincides 
with the channels plaied on the device I'm hooking up.  As for the Bose, I 
can only speak for the ten year old model, but it's controls are all 
logically laid out push buttons.  The only accessibility issue is that there 
is no audio feedback on the clock and alarm settings, hence I have 
accidently pushed the wrong button(s), causing the Bose to blast on in the 
middle of the night.  Recent Bose adds refer to touch top controls, which 
suggests that it may now only be possible to manipulate the tuner/ choice of 
inputs, etc via the remote.


With this setup, I can use airplay, Airfoil, or library sharing to play 
content on my Apple TV and it sounds great on my Bose.


HTH.
Geoff


- Original Message - 
From: Bryan Jones openses...@me.com

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 4:19 PM
Subject: A question for Apple TV Users: What hardware are you using 
foraudio-out?



Hi Folks -- I've setup a current generation Apple TV and connected it via 
HDMI to my television. The speakers built into the television are pretty 
bad, so I've started thinking about using the Apple TV's optical digital 
audio-out port, AKA toslink or S/PDIF to connect to an external audio 
system for better sound. Unfortunately, my ancient home audio system does 
not have the requisite toslink port, just RCA jacks. From the research 
I've done I know it is possible to purchase a toslink / RCA converter but 
before I do that I'd be interested in hearing from Apple TV owners who are 
using the toslink audio-out port, with either the digital connection or 
the RCA converter. If you are happy with the results you are getting and 
don't mind sharing, I'd also be interested in knowing the make and model 
of audio equipment you are using with your Apple TV and the level of 
accessibility of that equipment.


Experienced opinions only, please. I've done my preliminary research and 
am just looking to hear some real-world feedback.


Cheers  TIA,
Bryan

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VoiceOver and IOS7.

[Geoff Waaler]

Greetings,

I'm considering registering as a developer so that I can have access to the 
IOS7 beta.  A little cursory Googling suggests that this initial beta is very 
rough around the edges.  Still, I'd like to provide input about IOS7 before it 
is released.  My question (if anyone can respond without violating any NDAs) is 
whether it is realistic for a totally blind person to install and use IOS7 on 
his/her primary phone at this point in the IOS7 development cycle.

If answering here is getting into sticky territory, any/all private notes would 
be greatly appreciated!

TIA, and best regards.
Geoff
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Re: VoiceOver and IOS7.

[Geoff Waaler]

Well, I can live with bugs, but wondered generally how rough it was for a VO 
user.  Bugs are one thing, but rendering the phone unusable is quite 
another.  I understand that it is easier to downgrade back to 6 than it was 
to downgrade to prier versions.


Thanks for all replies so far.
Geoff



- Original Message - 
From: Jonathan Tyrer jonathan.ty...@gmail.com

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: VoiceOver and IOS7.



Do you really need an answer to this question? Surely, if you sit in a
dark room, on your own, in silence, and ask yourself this question,
you will find the answer.

I'd be amazed if anyone risked there primary phone with a very early
beta version of the oS.

On 12/06/2013, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote:

Greetings,

I'm considering registering as a developer so that I can have access to 
the

IOS7 beta.  A little cursory Googling suggests that this initial beta is
very rough around the edges.  Still, I'd like to provide input about IOS7
before it is released.  My question (if anyone can respond without 
violating
any NDAs) is whether it is realistic for a totally blind person to 
install
and use IOS7 on his/her primary phone at this point in the IOS7 
development

cycle.

If answering here is getting into sticky territory, any/all private notes
would be greatly appreciated!

TIA, and best regards.
Geoff
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Re: VoiceOver and IOS7.

[Geoff Waaler]

I suspect that Sarah is mostly correct.  Its murky ground here.  The fact 
that IOS7 and mavrics beta code is available to anyone who opts to fork over 
$99 to Apple is public knowledge, as are many up-coming features.  I would 
think that such discussions are topical.


If I signed the NDA and installed IOS7, and experienced problems, I suspect 
that I am bound by the NDA not to dump that kind of information on a public 
list, which is why I was inviting private contact.


Thanks again for all who have responded both publicly and privately.

Geoff



- Original Message - 
From: Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:12 PM
Subject: Re: VoiceOver and IOS7.


This discussion and all similar subjects not infringing upon the NDA to be 
more acurate. Discuss ios7 and osx10.9 to the hills with speculations 
rumours and feature wishlists obviously.




Danny.
Sent from my iPhone

On 13/06/2013, at 12:29 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

I think this discussion is in violation of the nda of a developer hence 
why I sent him a message off list just to be safe. Hope that helped btw.


Whereas this discussion is probably in violation of apple's nda I so move 
that this discussion and all further discussions regarding ios and 
mavrics should not be discussed on this or any other places until said 
operating systems, that being mavrics and ios7, are released to the 
public this fall.


Take care, and sorry to be harsh but I take the apple nda seriously. I'm 
not moderator of this list but I don't want to see anyone get in trouble 
as this list does have a searchable archive anyone can access.


Be blessed and have a good evening all.
On Jun 12, 2013, at 6:49 PM, Chris Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com 
wrote:



Eek, Snap!

Ihh,  That was kind a rude.  The guy was just asking a question, and 
counter to your opinion, it's one of many, so I'd not just assume that 
hardly anyone's gonna try it, and jump down his throat.  Frankly, I 
think that was a very valid thing to ask.


What would be the point of a beta, if no one came forward to chance 
things. I mean, really? Sir?


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Jonathan Tyrer 
jonathan.ty...@gmail.com

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: VoiceOver and IOS7.



Do you really need an answer to this question? Surely, if you sit in a
dark room, on your own, in silence, and ask yourself this question,
you will find the answer.

I'd be amazed if anyone risked there primary phone with a very early
beta version of the oS.

On 12/06/2013, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote:

Greetings,

I'm considering registering as a developer so that I can have access 
to the
IOS7 beta.  A little cursory Googling suggests that this initial beta 
is
very rough around the edges.  Still, I'd like to provide input about 
IOS7
before it is released.  My question (if anyone can respond without 
violating
any NDAs) is whether it is realistic for a totally blind person to 
install
and use IOS7 on his/her primary phone at this point in the IOS7 
development

cycle.

If answering here is getting into sticky territory, any/all private 
notes

would be greatly appreciated!

TIA, and best regards.
Geoff
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Re: Jambox speaker phone quality - was Siri update prompts users to be brief (now jambox)

[Geoff Waaler]

Hi Brenda,

When I attempted to use my JB as a speaker phone in the past, two different 
people screamed at me.  One friend complained about a high pitched hiss in 
the background.  This was before the recent firmware update, which may have 
made a difference?  I just tested it here using my magicjack and it sounded 
much better than a typical speaker phone to me.  Of course the test was a 
bit flawed by the feedback echo, but it may depend on how picky the other 
party is.


Take care.
Geoff


- Original Message - 
From: meadowlar...@cox.net

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: Siri update prompts users to be brief (now jambox)



Cool, then. I will try it, myself, sometime.

Take care and thanks,

Brenda

mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
- Original Message - 
From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: Siri update prompts users to be brief (now jambox)


The time I tried it, it seemed to be good quality from what the other 
person

said.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: meadowlar...@cox.net

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: Siri update prompts users to be brief (now jambox)


I've never made calls with that box. Is it easy for people to hear you 
when

you talk on there?

Take care,

Brenda

mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
- Original Message - 
From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: Siri update prompts users to be brief


I think you can do that with the JamBox, but I think I have only used it
with my phone once for a phone call.
I usually only listen to my JamBox on Saturday night, after 10 PM, and it 
is

Miller-time, and I don't usually get phone calls at that time.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: meadowlar...@cox.net

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: Siri update prompts users to be brief


Me, too. Is there a way to program that jambox to do that, so we could 
hang

up with the talk button?

Take care,

Brenda

mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
- Original Message - 
From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: Siri update prompts users to be brief


I do have trouble with the two-finger double-tap technique at times.
I keep my fingernails shorter than most people, so I know that that is not
the problem, and I always keep my fingers apart.
My only desire for the iPhone is that it would be nice if we could answer
and hang up with the use of one of the real buttons.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: meadowlar...@cox.net

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 11:49 PM
Subject: Re: Siri update prompts users to be brief


Do you have trouble then, hanging up a call? It's hard for me, somehow, to
end the call.

Take care,

Brenda

mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
- Original Message - 
From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: Siri update prompts users to be brief


I usually do voice dial by holding down that button.
That is my preferred method, either say the number or the name of the
contact.
Sometimes if it is a bit noisy, or if I just don't feel like talking to my
phone, I will dial the good-old fashioned way, with my finger.
LOL
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: meadowlar...@cox.net

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: Siri update prompts users to be brief


I turned mine off one time and forgot that i had done it and she tried to 
go
down my list to call someone. If you hold that home button down to htill 
you

hear that sound when she's off, the phone wants to voice dial. Very
interesting. Has that ever happened to ya?

Take care,

Brenda

mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
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From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: Siri update prompts users to be brief


I turned my SIRI off a long time ago.
Glenn
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To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: Siri update prompts users to be brief


I'ts just strange. Sometimes she doesn't answer at all. She used to answer
everything for me. I never ask long questions either. The other thing 
which

i find quite amusing is this.

   I have videos of canaries. On my computer, if I show them, the titles
are in English. Now, since the 

Sonos app experiences?

[Geoff Waaler]

Greetings,

Recently, I noticed an apparent price reduction on the Sonos Play:5.  Well, if 
memory serves, it was over $100 higher on Amazon previously.

Anyway, on another list I recall reading rave reviews about the Sonos app, 
however this Nov 2012 blog entry from Neil Barnfather presents a different 
picture.

Is anyone out there using a Sonos, and if so, have they made any progress on 
the IOS app?

TIA for any/all input and best regards.
Geoff
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Re: Stand Scan

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Hi Ann,

Thanks so much for blazing the trail.  I think I understand your description, 
but hesitate to fold or shape something in a manner that it wasn't intended.

So, I have my Standscand pro folded.  I'm not sure that its folded exactly as 
it came out of the box but think so.

  So we have a little flap which appears to make a magnetic seal.  The cable is 
at the bottom right.  So, first step is To place the small flap in front of me 
on a table and flip it up.  Next, I open the box downward.  There are now three 
rows as follows:

  1. The little flap, which is now pointing up.
  2. one section which is only a piece of cardboard thick.

  3. 
  Four pieces of cardboard folded over.  The top one can unfold to the left, 
and the other two would fold out to the right.

  Now, the bottom left section appears to have six magnets.  Three are on the 
top row, and three are on the left side.  Just below the top magnet on the left 
is a tiny half circle cut into the side.

  I can see creases, but know that the moment I do any folding, it will 
permanently change the beast.

  Perhaps you can confirm that we're on the same page so far, and if you could 
offer any more pointers?

  Thanks again and best regards.
  Geoff

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  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 5:53 PM
  Subject: Re: Stand Scan


  Hello dónal,

  I have the StandScan Pro which has 15 Leds to provide good lighting. Yes, 
it's flimsy, but it folds flat, weighs next to nothing, and works great with my 
iPhone 5.

  I've tested the StandScan Pro with a double-page from a pretty complexe book 
using Prizmo in English with brilliant results. It was virtually perfect apart 
from the page headings which are in italics and came out as garbage.

  I tried scanning a rectangular box containing a deodorant spray, and 
TextGrabber read the information almost perfectly, whereas Prizmo failed at 
this task. This time, I was using French.

  Yesterday, I demonstrated the StandScan Pro to an IT teacher I was training 
in VoiceOver and the Mac. He gave me a flyer to scan and the result was perfect 
using TextGrabber. He was so impressed that he called in some colleagues to see 
this amazing thing!

  So, yes, you have to be careful with the StandScan Pro as it can easily be 
damaged, but it isn't a replacement for a flatbed scanner, it's a tool to carry 
around in a backpack for those occasions when you really have to get the 
information from a printed source quickly.

  Below my signature, I'll paste in my description of how to set up a StandScan 
Pro. By the Way, it ships with a 9 V battery holder and you can purchase a 12 V 
mains adaptor. You really need the 12 V for good results, but you can also add 
a battery holder for 8 AA batteries, giving a 12 V output.

  The StandScan Pro plus mains adaptor comes to something under $35 which isn't 
a lot to spend for such good results.

  Cheers,

  Anne


  Lay the folded StandScan on a table with the small flap away from you.
  Open the small flap and fold back the body of the StandScan towards you.
  Now the topmost piece should open to the left, and the remaining part will 
open to the right but will still be a double thickness.
  Open the final piece to the right.
  Go to the lefthand piece and you'll find that there is a crease running from 
where it joins the second piece to the lefthand edge, a few centimetres in.
  Fold along this crease making an elongated triangle.
  The same thing can be found on the back edge of the same piece, and on the 
front and back edges of the third section.
  The piece at the extreme right is the top and you can find the LEDs along its 
back edge, and the cable at its back left corner.
  Lift the righthand section and lift the lefthand section, then fold over the 
flap at the end of the section with the LEDs so that the magnets meet the 
magnets on the lefthand section.
  A flap of the top section folds down to engage with the magnets on the 
triangular pieces, and the piece still lying flat at the back lifts up to meet 
the top and the triangular side pieces at the back.
  Your StandScan should now look like a large box with an open front and a 
short cable coming out of the upper back lefthand corner.
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Re: weather ap for the Mac?

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Hi Cathy,

I'm sure there are options in the Mac app store, but the dashboard weather 
widget is already part of MountainLion and at least a couple earlier 
releases of MacOSX that I know of (IE SnowLeopard).


Anyway, you can open the dashboard either via the icon in the dock, or by 
pressing F4.  You can then navigate the included Dashboard widgets (IE 
weather, package tracker, etc) by pressing control-option-f2 twice, and 
enter to open the desired item.


HTH.
Geoff
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Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 10:30 PM
Subject: weather ap for the Mac?



Hello,

Is there an ap for weather that comes with the Mac or does anyone know if
there is an accessible ap for download?

My Mac mini says the word weather occasionally which intrigues me, but I
can't find it.



Thanks,



Cathy



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Re: Walgreen's App problem

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Hi Glenn,

I am a total, and have had little luck with bar codes on my 4S.  A sited 
friend didn't know whether the bottle had a bar or qr code, but we tried 
both and she still was unable to line it up for me.  My refill apparently 
went flawlessly after I entered the RX number manually (we'll see if its 
actually ready in the AM).


Best regards.
Geoff

- Original Message - 
From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: Walgreen's App problem



Hi Jeff,
I just updated my apps, and now the buttons seem to work.
I do a scan, but it does not find the Walgreen's barcode, or QR code, nor
does the 2x button find anything off the prescription container.
Glenn
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To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: Walgreen's App problem


What happens when you attempt to refill By scan?  If provided with the
scenario, I will try to reproduce at my end.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 28, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:


Hi, I would just like to scan prescriptions, and maybe re-order them.
Neither of those work, as well as the others.
Glenn
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To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: Walgreen's App problem


Hi Glenn,

Initially it didn't work on my 64GB 4S either -- from a VO perspective, 
it

appeared to hang on a blank screen.  After clearing all items from the
task
switcher, and restarting my phone, I can now use the two features of
interest to me which are the weekly add and shopping list.


- Original Message -
From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 2:08 PM
Subject: Walgreen's App problem



Hi All,
I have an iPhone 5, and I have the Walgreen's pharmacy app installed.
I originally installed it on my iPhone 4, and it worked on that phone.
I ported all my apps via iTunes onto my new phone, so it was not
installed
directly to the iPhone 5.
I only mention this because I don't believe this to be the problem.
I am wondering if anyone else has the Walgreen's pharmacy app and have
gotten it to work lately?
I suspect that Walgreen's updated it since I originally got it and 
caused

it
to not work with VoiceOver.
All of the buttons are labeled as before, but double-tapping on them 
does

not work.
Thanks for any feedback.
Glenn

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Re: Walgreen's App problem

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Hi Glenn,

Initially it didn't work on my 64GB 4S either -- from a VO perspective, it 
appeared to hang on a blank screen.  After clearing all items from the task 
switcher, and restarting my phone, I can now use the two features of 
interest to me which are the weekly add and shopping list.



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From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 2:08 PM
Subject: Walgreen's App problem



Hi All,
I have an iPhone 5, and I have the Walgreen's pharmacy app installed.
I originally installed it on my iPhone 4, and it worked on that phone.
I ported all my apps via iTunes onto my new phone, so it was not installed
directly to the iPhone 5.
I only mention this because I don't believe this to be the problem.
I am wondering if anyone else has the Walgreen's pharmacy app and have
gotten it to work lately?
I suspect that Walgreen's updated it since I originally got it and caused 
it

to not work with VoiceOver.
All of the buttons are labeled as before, but double-tapping on them does
not work.
Thanks for any feedback.
Glenn

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Re: Walgreen's App problem

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What happens when you attempt to refill By scan?  If provided with the
scenario, I will try to reproduce at my end.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 28, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 Hi, I would just like to scan prescriptions, and maybe re-order them.
 Neither of those work, as well as the others.
 Glenn
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 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 11:40 AM
 Subject: Re: Walgreen's App problem


 Hi Glenn,

 Initially it didn't work on my 64GB 4S either -- from a VO perspective, it
 appeared to hang on a blank screen.  After clearing all items from the task
 switcher, and restarting my phone, I can now use the two features of
 interest to me which are the weekly add and shopping list.


 - Original Message -
 From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 2:08 PM
 Subject: Walgreen's App problem


 Hi All,
 I have an iPhone 5, and I have the Walgreen's pharmacy app installed.
 I originally installed it on my iPhone 4, and it worked on that phone.
 I ported all my apps via iTunes onto my new phone, so it was not installed
 directly to the iPhone 5.
 I only mention this because I don't believe this to be the problem.
 I am wondering if anyone else has the Walgreen's pharmacy app and have
 gotten it to work lately?
 I suspect that Walgreen's updated it since I originally got it and caused
 it
 to not work with VoiceOver.
 All of the buttons are labeled as before, but double-tapping on them does
 not work.
 Thanks for any feedback.
 Glenn

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Re: In search of a Sirius/XM solution.

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Hello Timothy,

Thanks for the info.  Great news that the IOS app is usable.  I was 
grandfathered into the free on-line account, but it does not cover streaming to 
the IOS app, hence based on what I read earlier and the fact that Pulsar and 
MusicDoc were viable options, I opted to stay with my free subscription.

I'm in the US, but Pulsar is hanging with a message stating buffering.  
Perhaps the disparity in our observations has to do with the fact that I have 
an XM account?  Anyway, it sounds as though Pulsar won't be functioning for 
much longer regardless, which is very sad.

Thanks again and best regards.
Geoff

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  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 12:56 PM
  Subject: Re: In search of a Sirius/XM solution.


  Hi Jeff,
  After reading your E-mail I launched pulsar and am able to stream sirius XM 
content just fine.  I switched back and forth between nascar radio and nfl 
radio and it behaved as it always does.  I also use the iPhone app.  It 
certainly isn't the most accessible app in the world but there are work arounds 
for it to do the tasks that you want it to.  For example, when you're listening 
to a station and you want to go back to the categories list you can double tap 
the bottom left hand corner of the screen.  That's the back button, although 
voice over doesn't read it as such.  I haven't tried labeling the buttons with 
the custom element labeling feature.  That might work as well.
  T.J.
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  Greetings yy'all,

  Sadly, Pulsar is now a tool of the past.  Though this Rogue Amoeba page 
implies that US accounts are still functioning for the present, I am no longer 
able to play XM content via Pulsar.

  Musicdoc still works, however, they have not added the sports play-by-play 
channels.  My question, therefore is: what are people now using?  Last I knew, 
the Sirius/XM IOS app was inaccessible, as is their on-line player which 
appears to be using exclusively flash with none of the elements labeled in a 
manner such that a screen reader can read it.

  TIA for any ideas, or perhaps the IOS app has improved?

  Geoff
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In search of a Sirius/XM solution.

[Geoff Waaler]

Greetings yy'all,

Sadly, Pulsar is now a tool of the past.  Though this Rogue Amoeba page implies 
that US accounts are still functioning for the present, I am no longer able to 
play XM content via Pulsar.

Musicdoc still works, however, they have not added the sports play-by-play 
channels.  My question, therefore is: what are people now using?  Last I knew, 
the Sirius/XM IOS app was inaccessible, as is their on-line player which 
appears to be using exclusively flash with none of the elements labeled in a 
manner such that a screen reader can read it.

TIA for any ideas, or perhaps the IOS app has improved?

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Re: ZCaptcha - a new web service for dealing with Captchas andMetakine Mini-Bundle sale reminder

[Geoff Waaler]

On an emotional level I totally agree, however, IMHO captchas are a necessary 
evil in many circumstances.  For example, I'm glad that a bot can not easily 
reset the password of my paypal account.  I really can not conceptualize how 
this could be done differently.  Others have suggested random questions such as 
what is 2 plus 2?, but a web application could easily defeat that.

Though my hearing is perfect, I find audio alternatives useless, and wonder if 
there is a way they can render it clearer while keeping it out of reach of the 
current voice recognition state of the art?  Meanwhile I'm grateful for 
Webvisum!!

Best regards.
Geoff

  - Original Message - 
  From: Matthew Chao 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 7:45 AM
  Subject: Re: ZCaptcha - a new web service for dealing with Captchas 
andMetakine Mini-Bundle sale reminder


  Hi, Lynne.  I fully agree with what you said.  Add to that, audio 
  captias that can't be understood no matter how many times one listens 
  to them being repeated.

  Just because one has a disability doesn't mean that one should have 
  to pay a la cart for things that non-disabled take for 
  granted.  Captias definitely fall into this category.

  Matthew Chao

  At 05:22 AM 9/16/2012, you wrote:
  Hello everybody
  
  As somebody who is not visually impaired, looking in, so to speak, I 
  have one major problem with these services. Why, I'd like to know, 
  should it be that those of you who happen to have the misfortune to 
  be visually impaired, should be forced to pay yet again for a 
  facility of websites etc. to which the rest of us have free access? 
  This really does leave a very bad taste in my mouth, so to speak, 
  (again). Visually impaired people often seem to get a very roar deal 
  and it's high time that these websites were regulated so that 
  accessibility for all was enforced, not just set out as a guide line.
  
  It's wrong, I believe, that blind and visually impaired people 
  should be blocked in this way, if they don't happen to have either 
  some means of cracking these screen shots or a visually abled person 
  to hand. Sorry for the rant; but I honestly believe this kind of 
  prejudicial practice, not to mention those seeking to profit from 
  it, should be banned.
  
  I understand that developers need to recoup their costs and that 
  website owners need to protect themselves against malicious threats. 
  But the practice of denying access without a lot of hassle to those 
  who are already very much disadvantaged should be outlawed.
  
  Lynne
  
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Re: sending text messages from the mac.

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That's where GoogleVoice comes in handy, though I'm not sure whether they've 
expanded outside North America.  The free account includes unlimited calling to 
the US and Canada as well as unlimited domestic texting.

Best regards.
Geoff

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sarah Alawami 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 10:58 AM
  Subject: Re: sending text messages from the mac.


  and it's generally more expensive as well. I think it's like 3 or 6 sense a 
message and sometimes 30. and sometimes it does not even work. lol! Most of the 
time it does.

  Good luck.
  On Aug 31, 2012, at 2:25 AM, Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote:

   Hello, 
   You can send SMS text messages from a Mac to a mobile phone by using Skype. 
YOu do of course have to deposit some money in your Skype account to pay for 
the phone call. 
   Best regards
   
   Paul Hopewell 
   On 31 Aug 2012, at 10:16, christopher hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com 
wrote:
   
   Apparently there is Type2Phone that uses your mac as a bluetooth keyboard 
for your iOS device. You can then type the text directly into the app once the 
iOS device is in the text field, then send the message. You can also type text 
in a Mac text editor, copy it, and paste to your iOS device.
   Hope this is what you are looking for.
   Sent from my mac
   
   
   
   On 31 Aug 2012, at 09:07, stuart young stuartyo...@samobile.net wrote:
   
   Hi all.
   does anyone no of an app that works with voice over on the mac that would 
enable me to send text messages? as i don't think that the messages app is able 
to do this.
   many thanks for all of your help.
   Regards.
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Re: money reading app.

[Geoff Waaler]

Bare in mind however that it was written by the US government hence will only 
identify US currency.  Since the original poster is in the UK, this app may not 
be ideal for his situation.

Also, its amusing to compare the LookTel product to the government's 
counterpart head to head for anyone who wants an illustration of how 
governments typically produce things with a tenth the quality at ten times the 
price as the private sector.  Sure the government product is free of charge, 
except that it aint really free to produce.  Instead  subsequent generations 
will have to pay for it, and I'm sure its development and distribution costs 
far exceeded those of Looktel.  And we want those people in complete control of 
our health care too?  But I digress.

Best regards.
Geoff

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  From: Marcy Weinberg 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 11:04 AM
  Subject: Re: money reading app.


  Eyenote is a great app for reading money.

  http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/eyenote/id405336354?mt=8

  On Aug 11, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Andrea Breier abre...@kc.rr.com wrote:

  I have not read, or heard of any other money reader apps.  I stopped looking 
when I got looktell.  I don't think they would be any better than the look tell 
app.  I think this app is just great!  It is simple to use and very straight 
forward, and it does what it says it will do, very well.



  Hugs,
  Andrea M. Breier
  -Original Message- From: Ian McNamara
  Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 10:28 AM
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
  Subject: money reading app.

  Hi I have the look tell money reading app which is ok but i wondered if there 
was a better one out there and if so what is it called.

  thanks very much Ian McNamara
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Re: copying text on an iPhone

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Hi Glenn,

Perhaps I'm not understanding your question.  Assuming that the desired page is 
open in Safari on your IOS device, the procedure for placing an icon on the 
home screen is to double tap the utility button which is located on the 
bottom of the Safari window near the center.  From the resulting dialog, one of 
the available buttons is labeled: add to home screen.
Should you ever desire to copy the URL, you would have several options.  From 
your email or text message, navigate to the link, and use the pass through 
gesture (double tap and hold).  When you here the triple bonk noise, you can 
right flick to options such as copy.  If the item is launched in Safari:
1. Navigate to the URL.
2. Double tap to edit.
3. Use the roter gesture to select edit.
4. Flick down to select all (I think select yields the identical result).
5. Select copy. .

HTH.
Geoff


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  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:29 PM
  Subject: copying text on an iPhone


  Hi,
  I have a rather lengthy link to a web site, so I sent the link from my 
  computer's eMail to my phone via text.
  I can go to my messages on my iPhone, and tap on the link and it opens the 
  page, but I want to make a link on my home screen for it, so I select it by 
  spreading my fingers on the text, and that selects it.
  The thing is, I cannot figure out how to copy the link after I select it.
  Thanks for any help.
  Glenn 

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Re: copying text on an iPhone

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Hi Glenn,

At risk of being redundant, allow me to requote this passage from my initial 
post:

Quote:
From your email or text message, navigate to the link, and use the pass 
through gesture (double tap and hold).  When you here the triple bonk noise, 
you can right flick to options such as copy.
Unquote

Please reread carefully and let me know if anything is unclear or is not 
working as expected at your end.

Best regards.
Geoff


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  From: Glenn 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 9:06 PM
  Subject: Re: copying text on an iPhone


  Hi Jeff,
  The flaw in your directions is that if I double-tap a link, it opens safari 
  to that page.
  The link is in a text, and I want to copy it, and paste it into a facebook 
  app.
  I once got the edit option in the rotor list, but when I double-tapped it, 
  it just went away.

  Glenn
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  From: Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
  Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 11:21 AM
  Subject: Re: copying text on an iPhone


  Hi Glenn,

  Perhaps I'm not understanding your question.  Assuming that the desired page 
  is open in Safari on your IOS device, the procedure for placing an icon on 
  the home screen is to double tap the utility button which is located on 
  the bottom of the Safari window near the center.  From the resulting dialog, 
  one of the available buttons is labeled: add to home screen.
  Should you ever desire to copy the URL, you would have several options. 
  From your email or text message, navigate to the link, and use the pass 
  through gesture (double tap and hold).  When you here the triple bonk noise, 
  you can right flick to options such as copy.  If the item is launched in 
  Safari:
  1. Navigate to the URL.
  2. Double tap to edit.
  3. Use the roter gesture to select edit.
  4. Flick down to select all (I think select yields the identical 
  result).
  5. Select copy. .

  HTH.
  Geoff


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From: Glenn
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:29 PM
Subject: copying text on an iPhone


Hi,
I have a rather lengthy link to a web site, so I sent the link from my
computer's eMail to my phone via text.
I can go to my messages on my iPhone, and tap on the link and it opens the
page, but I want to make a link on my home screen for it, so I select it 
  by
spreading my fingers on the text, and that selects it.
The thing is, I cannot figure out how to copy the link after I select it.
Thanks for any help.
Glenn

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Re: Burning ML to SD card.

[Geoff Waaler]

Hi Sarah,

In the version of CCC dated about a week ago, the source pop-up button includes 
an option to create a Mountain Lion disk.

BTW, I used the Partition tab (which was available for the drive volume) to 
make an empty Guide partition but was still unable to create the installation 
disk for my SD card via Disk Utility.  It was very easy and straight forward 
using Carbon Copy  Cloner.

Thanks again to all who responded, and best regards.
Geoff


  - Original Message - 
  From: Sarah Alawami 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 7:34 PM
  Subject: Re: Burning ML to SD card.


  Hmm have not tried carbon copy cloner to make an  ml blush drive. I don't 
have the app on my hd anymore but if I bring it back to the right pace how do I 
do this? I read the docs but it did not appear to have the option.

  Take care.
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   Hi Geoff,
   
   Just to further comment on Gordon's points about the Partition tab in 
Disk Utility.  I think that to prepare your SD card (or a USB memory stick) for 
being a bootable volume, the preferred method is to use the Partition tab and 
create a new partition, which also deletes existing content in the process, 
rather than to use the Erase tab.  Most USB thumb drives and SD media card 
come formatted for use with FAT32 files for Windows, since Macs can read these 
formats. 
   
   The distinction is that when you make a bootable drive for current Macs, 
you not only need to specify the format for files (e.g., Mac OS Extended, 
Journaled), but that you're using a GUID Partition table (for an Intel Mac) 
vs. an Apple Partition map (for an older PowerPC Mac, or for a device that is 
not being used as a startup device) vs. a Master Boot Record for devices used 
to start up DOS or Windows devices, or devices that require DOS- or 
Windows-compatible partitions.  
   
   In order to get access to those options, you have to create a new partition 
by changing the popup button for the partition layout of your device from 
Current to 1 partition (or however many you want).   Then you can assign 
name, format, and size to your partition and press the Options button to 
select one of the three options I described above (GUID, Apple, or MBR).  These 
changes take effect when you click Apply.
   
   I believe that Carbon Copy Cloner lets you choose a menu item to Create a 
Mountain Lion Installer, which takes care of all the selection options 
automatically, since it assumes you need this as a bootable drive, just as the 
default options to use it to make a bootable clone handles this preparation and 
the formatting settings.  But it is possible to prep the drive manually as I 
described by using the Partition tab of Disk Utility instead of the Erase 
tab.
   
   HTH.  Cheers,
   
   Esther
   
   On Aug 3, 2012, at 6:32 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:
   
   Hi Geoff
   
   If you look around the dick utility tabs, you'll see a Partition tab.  
There is an Options button just before the two cancel and OK buttons.  
Pressing that will bring up a table of different partition types.  In that 
table just select the Guide partition type radio button and click OK.  Then, 
click Apply and then click Partition.  Your partition will then be created.
   
   Gordon
   
   On 3 Aug 2012, at 17:06, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote:
   
   Hi Esther, Gordon and others,
   
   I ordered an 8GB SD card for this purpose before reading that most were 
apparently using a thumb drive, so I don't have an easy way to test USB 
connected media.
   
   Perhaps related, but I see no option to specify guide as a partition 
type in the delete dialog of Disk Utility.  After more experimentation I 
decided that as Esther suggested, the Lion Disk Utility's restore dialog is 
inaccessible for my purposes in that one can not copy or drag the desired media 
to the target field.  I tried opening the InstallESD.dmg file and selecting 
the resulting mounted volume, to no avail.
   
   I created the desired installation media via CCC, and it appears to boot 
properly, so ML should be installed later today.  It sounds as though the 
recovery tool that Gordon posted would have done the trick as well.
   
   Thanks to all for your suggestions and best regards.
   Geoff
   
   
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Re: Burning ML to SD card.

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Hi Esther, Gordon and others,

I ordered an 8GB SD card for this purpose before reading that most were 
apparently using a thumb drive, so I don't have an easy way to test USB 
connected media.

Perhaps related, but I see no option to specify guide as a partition type in 
the delete dialog of Disk Utility.  After more experimentation I decided that 
as Esther suggested, the Lion Disk Utility's restore dialog is inaccessible 
for my purposes in that one can not copy or drag the desired media to the 
target field.  I tried opening the InstallESD.dmg file and selecting the 
resulting mounted volume, to no avail.

I created the desired installation media via CCC, and it appears to boot 
properly, so ML should be installed later today.  It sounds as though the 
recovery tool that Gordon posted would have done the trick as well.

Thanks to all for your suggestions and best regards.
Geoff

  - Original Message - 
  From: Gordon Smith 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 4:01 AM
  Subject: Re: Burning ML to SD card.


  Hi Geoff

  Just out of interest, do you happen to have a thumb drive or external hard 
drive on which you could try this test?  As for that Lion Diskmaker, I think it 
was just written by somebody who has far too much time on their hands. :)

  Gordon

  On 2 Aug 2012, at 22:02, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote:

  I copied the to my desktop and inserted an 8GB SD card.

  Next, I launched disk utility and in the delete tab selected macOS 
journaled.  All appeared to have gone well up to this point; I have an empty 
7.8 GB partition.  Next, I went into the restore tab, and here's where it gets 
weird.  I can copy/paste the file from the desktop into the source field, but 
then when I attempt to drag/drop the SD partition into the target field, the 
target remains empty, and the InstallESD.dmg is replaced with the name of the 
SD partition that I intend to be the target.  I'm assuming that I'm missing a 
step, or that there's a trick to this, since it worked fine when I was creating 
the Lion DVD.

  Can anyone suggest a work-around, or do I need to grab that Lion Disk Maker 
app that Sarah mentioned?

  TIA and best regards.
  Geoff
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Re: Track Pad, how to assign a key stroke to a gesture?

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Hi Eric,

I invested the life changing sum of twenty bucks for ML, but alas it's not yet 
installed on my mid 2010 MBP.  This is because like Sarah, I always install a 
new OS on a clean partition, and have finally gotten around to backing things 
up, but I digress.  So much for disclaimers, but I can only speak for Lion when 
saying that the trackpad commander does not directly support what you're trying 
to do.  I assume that ML has not changed in this regard.

All is not lost, however, because a potentially powerful feature in trackpad, 
keyboard, numpad and navkey commanders is the ability to attach scripts or 
autamator workflows to specific gestures or key strokes.  You'll find this 
under the custom commands menu.  I did some cursory googling on the string 
applescript enter-key and found several references, but this little example 
describing  how to simulate the enter key seemed to be the best starting point, 
as it links to a way to ascertain all the keycodes.

Best regards,
Geoff

  - Original Message - 
  From: Eric Caron 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 9:44 PM
  Subject: Track Pad, how to assign a key stroke to a gesture?


  Hello Listers,

  I've been using my track pad more lately.  i would like a gesture that either 
presses the space bar or presses enter.  This would be helpful in iTunes.  I 
looked tour the help documentation and through Voice Over utility but did not 
find a way to assign this to a gesture.  Is this possible?  if so how?

  Eric Caron 
   

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Other possible cures for Dónal's muted speaker issue - was My temperamental iPhone!

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Greetings Dónal, Diane and list,

Another solution is to perform actions/gestures that should cause VO to emit 
speech and press volume up while its presumably happening.  EG, pressing the 
power button normally causes VO to announce the time.  Without VO though, I 
have no way of ascertaining whether I just locked my screen or unlocked it.  If 
I use the two finger flick up gesture, and press volume up, usually by the time 
vo finishes announcing the time, date, notifications, and slide to unlock/take 
picture admonishments, its at full volume.  If not, then I probably locked it, 
and a repeat of the sequence of pressing power, followed by the two finger 
flick up and volume up will do the trick.

Usually when this happens, the head phone volume is unaffected, so if you're 
not comfortable acting on faith, you can put on the headphones, locate a volume 
control, and then remove the headphones before manipulating the volume slider 
via the flick up gesture.

Lastly, there is a very intermittent issue that likely still exists with 
current IOS devices; I had it happen once a couple years ago on my 3GS.  What 
happens is that a speck of dust gets into the headphone jack which causes the 
microswitch to remain open, fooling the hardware into believing that the 
headphone jack is engaged and there bye route sounds accordingly.  In this 
scenario, the solutions suggested by Diane and me are ineffective.  Instead, 
one can probably dislodge the item with a little canned air, or by inserting 
and extracting headphones into the jack several times quickly.

HTH.
Geoff


  - Original Message - 
  From: Diane Bomar 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:59 PM
  Subject: Re: My temperamental iPhone!


  This used to happen to me, quite frequently, especially after having the 
  phone on a music dock, then taking it off. Hasn't happened under ios 5.1.1, 
  though. My solution was to call the phone from another line, and raise the 
  volume while the call was live. Sometimes that meant pressing the home 
  button, so that the call screen was not in the foreground.

  There is a rotor option for volume, but difficult to use that when VO is not 
  speaking. Actually, I  had not thought about this problem for a while, but 
  have not experienced it on my 4s. It used to happen when I was using a 4, 
  though. Don't know if the problem went away, or if a hardware or software 
  upgrade fixed it.
  Glad to know you got it working,for now.
  Diane

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
  Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:32 AM
  Subject: My temperamental iPhone!


  Hi all,

  this is very bizarre.  Here are several scenarios:

  1. voiceover is turned on.  no sound whatsoever from the phone.  No voice, 
  no background beeps; nothing.

  2. someone rings. voiceover behaves perfectly.

  3. voiceover is turned off.  Phone behaves perfectly.

  I am confused. very very very confused!  help!

  cheers :)

  Dónal
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Re: battery seems improved on iphone 4s

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Hi William,

I'm with a US carrier and my status shows 4G.  I don't know about the power 
demands of your carrier, but to give you a basis for comparison, my 4S was 
replaced by Apple in early May, so it may have been reconditioned and I've been 
pounding on the battery for nearly four months.  Bluetooth is turned off, wi-fi 
is on and ping is disabled in restrictions.

I now have 47% battery power, and my standbye time is 14 hours 16 minutes, and 
usage is 4 hours 15 minutes.  To be sure, it depends what I do, because I've 
often been at 1% and observed that my usage was under seven hours.  Still, if 
you're working with a new phone, your observations don't sound like what I 
would expect (at least using ATT in the US).

Best regards,
Geoff

  - Original Message - 
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  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:43 AM
  Subject: battery seems improved on iphone 4s 


  hi all i have been running my iphone 4s for a few days now and i followed 
suggestions by letting it run to zero and then go fully to 199.
  my usage stats now are 
  9 hours 20 minutes standby 
  and 
  3 hours 50 minutes usage
  i found these in settings, general, usage, battery usage heading 
  what please, do these mean?
  i have 3g on, location services on, bluetooth off not all the usage was calls 
and now i am on 30 percent so not too bad i guess.
  can't use 2g or edge as the three network in UK is only 3g
  but seems a lot better performance than iphone 4

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Re: battery seems improved on iphone 4s

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Hi Dónal,

I just noticed a bug where flicking right stops after the first two items 
(Safari and youtube).  If I explore down with my finger, camera is right 
below youtube, and from there, three right swipes (or an inch and a half 
further down) gets me to the toggle for ping.  I haven't explored this dialog 
recently, but am sure the flick gesture was working predictably in an earlier 
version of IOS5.

HTH.
Geoff

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  From: Dónal Fitzpatrick 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:26 PM
  Subject: Re: battery seems improved on iphone 4s 


  Hi Jeff,

  I've looked at restrictions and didn't see ping.  How did you disable this?

  Thanks a lot,

  Dónal
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   Hi William,
   
   I'm with a US carrier and my status shows 4G.  I don't know about the power 
demands of your carrier, but to give you a basis for comparison, my 4S was 
replaced by Apple in early May, so it may have been reconditioned and I've been 
pounding on the battery for nearly four months.  Bluetooth is turned off, wi-fi 
is on and ping is disabled in restrictions.
   
   I now have 47% battery power, and my standbye time is 14 hours 16 minutes, 
and usage is 4 hours 15 minutes.  To be sure, it depends what I do, because 
I've often been at 1% and observed that my usage was under seven hours.  Still, 
if you're working with a new phone, your observations don't sound like what I 
would expect (at least using ATT in the US).
   
   Best regards,
   Geoff
   
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To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:43 AM
Subject: battery seems improved on iphone 4s 
   
   
hi all i have been running my iphone 4s for a few days now and i followed 
suggestions by letting it run to zero and then go fully to 199.
my usage stats now are 
9 hours 20 minutes standby 
and 
3 hours 50 minutes usage
i found these in settings, general, usage, battery usage heading 
what please, do these mean?
i have 3g on, location services on, bluetooth off not all the usage was 
calls and now i am on 30 percent so not too bad i guess.
can't use 2g or edge as the three network in UK is only 3g
but seems a lot better performance than iphone 4
   
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Re: overdrive iOS app

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Accessibility can be a subjective term, but I personally consider it perfectly 
accessible.  I have no overDrive books at the moment, hence have to rely on my 
recollection that a few buttons in the player could have been given better 
labels, but as I recall their functions were perfectly discernible and I was 
just to lazy to assign better labels.

Some times, it seems that there is a resource lock between VO and the OverDrive 
app, but I was not able to recreate the problem, hence didn't have enough info 
to contact support.  Bottom line is that its perfectly usable, but, IMHO, not 
as well done as the Audible app.

Best regards,
Geoff


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  To: mac-access@mac-access.net 
  Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 5:30 PM
  Subject: overdrive iOS app


  Hello;

  I recently finished a program teaching students about college for
  visually impaired users. In this, we had a sort of tech class, in
  which overdrive was discussed. I'd heard of it before, but now I want
  to try it, it really looks cool! Kinda like an online library, :) How
  do people find accessibility in the iOS app? Thanks!

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Fahrenheit - was Current Temperature Pushed

[Geoff Waaler]

Hi Karin and others,

I'm a sucker for a weather app, so I gave Fahrenheit a whirl.  Are you saying 
that information such as wind speed/direction, humidity, real feel temp, etc 
are accessible with voiceOver?  If not, I would suggest that a claim of 
completely accessible is misleading, at least to the faction of VoiceOver 
users who lack any functional vision.  I've been all through the settings, and 
unless I'm missing something, from my perspective, Fahrenheit provides 
absolutely zero  added value over the Weather widget included with IOS.

  Best regards.
  Geoff


  - Original Message - 
  From: Karin Cox 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 11:28 AM
  Subject: Re: Current Temperature Pushed


  I downloaded an app called Fahrenheit on Tues. It does the same things as 
current temp. The format is a little different but it is completely accessible. 
I cost $0.99.
  Karin

  On Jul 11, 2012, at 3:08 PM, Desi Noller wrote:

   Hi Everyone,
   
   Current Temperature Pushed has been one of our favorite weather apps around 
here, but for at least the last week or so, it hasn't been working.  I don't 
know if this is a local problem, or if the app just no longer works!  Do any of 
you use this app, and have you heard anything about what's wrong with it?  And, 
if we can't get this one working again, is there another simple weather app 
that will display the same type of information and is very accessible?  We like 
it because it shows not only the temperature, but also the dew point 
temperature.  Thanks!
   
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Re: Install Adobe Flash player, how?

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Hi Eric,

I always find it amusing to peruse Adobe's accessibility page and learn about 
the company's dedication to supporting all customers.  Reading further, 
however one learns that this dedication only extends to the web page.  It does 
not extend so far as the arduous and impossible task of writing even so much as 
a marginally accessible installation dialog for their flash app (which once 
existed BTW), but I digress.

On the Windows side of things, Ninite will solve the flash updating problem, 
but I've not yet been able to locate a MacOS equivalent.

Best regards,
Geoff


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  Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 11:28 AM
  Subject: Install Adobe Flash player, how?


  Hi listers,

  for some time now I'm asked to update Adobe Flash player.  I can't figure out 
how to do it. has anyone successfully navigated through this?  any tips?

  Eric Caron   
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Re: Apple Keyboard can broken keys be repaired?

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Hi Eric,

I've never taken one of these apart, but once  my golden got a little excited 
and knocked a few keys out of a friend's laptop keyboard.  I was surprised to 
discover that the springs that use to support keys in older keyboards were 
gone.  Instead the keys were held in place and bounce back because of suction 
from the rubber at the bottom of the keys.  Once back in place, they were all 
restored to functionality and my 85 LB furball got out of the dog house.

Hopefully, your Mac Mini keyboard uses the same principle.  Good luck.

Geoff


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  Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 12:43 PM
  Subject: Apple Keyboard can broken keys be repaired?


  Hello listers,

  Using used equipment offers new challenges.  My new used mini arrived.  The 
keyboard came in two additional pieces a T key and a F13 key flooding around.  
Any chance of fitting these back in place?

  The case seems a bit rough from the trip but so far it started up ok.  the 
Majic pad seems ok but I have not tried to use it yet. 

  So can keys knocked off be replaced?  If so what is the trick?

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Re: captcha program for Mac computers?

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As I said, it's the only game in town, which doesn't necessarily translate to 
meaning that its usable smile.  Looking forward to the day when Mozilla and 
VO coexist better!!

Geoff

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  To: 'Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility' 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 5:19 AM
  Subject: RE: captcha program for Mac computers?


  Is Firefox usable with voiceover yet? I heard Mozilla was working on
  accessibility but heard that the busy problem with VO and Safari was
  magnified exponentially on Firefox at the moment. Still if Firefox could
  just be used for capture pages then that would be a real advance.
  David Griffith


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  The only game in town is the FireFox nightly build and Webvisum.

  Best regards.
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Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 4:15 PM
Subject: captcha program for mac computers?


is there an application that tells us the charicters in a picture that
  sighted people are supposed to be able to solve?  Like solona or web visim
  for windows?  just curious.
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Re: Sound Hound

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Greetings Diane,

I too am totally blind, but consider Soundhound to be very voiceover friendly.  
There are a few unlabeled buttons, which in my experience don't preclude the 
ability to fully exploit all features of interest to me.

I understand your frustration with the developers response (kind of analogous 
to the 1980s vintage office sign reading: the beatings will continue until 
employee morale improves), but to be honest, I had the identical question upon 
reading your post.  Perhaps if I try a different approach?

1. Can you verify that you're using the current version of SoundHound?

2. Is it the free or paid version (this probably doesn't affect the interface)?

3. Are you using the current IOS public release (5.1.1)?

4. What happens when you launch SoundHound -- is all text unreadable, and you 
see no discernible buttons?

5. If so, try using the back button in the upper left hand corner until 
you're on the home screen where all buttons are clearly labeled without any 
need for the label element ( two finger double tap and hold) gesture.  If you 
cannot locate a back button, try the scrub gesture which is supported 
throughout the app).

One of the available settings is to have SoundHound listen for music on 
startup, but for me, this screen is very clearly presented via VoiceOver.  I 
can't imagine where you might be landing.

Please let us know how you're getting on, and perhaps the list can be of more 
help if we know a bit more about where you're getting stuck.

Best regards,
Geoff


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  From: Diane Bomar 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 4:57 AM
  Subject: Re: Sound Hound


  Yes, that is what I suggested. Haven't heard back.

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  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
  Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 1:57 AM
  Subject: Re: Sound Hound


   Why not suggest the dev switches  voiceover on at their end and try to use 
   their app without looking at the screen or turning the screen off?
   Then again it's a bit surprising they didn't think of that themselves!
  
   Regards
  
   G
  
   From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England.
  
   On 10 Jul 2012, at 06:42, Diane Bomar wrote:
  
   Do any of you use Soundhound on the iPhone? There are several buttons 
   without text labels. When I wrote to the developer about this, asking 
   them to put text labels on all of their elements, explaining that I am 
   totally blind, and that many others using Iphones are also blind, they 
   wrote back to me with the following message:
   What elements are you not able to see or distinguish inside of our app?
  
   Obviously, if I knew the answer to this question, there would not be a 
   problem. So, do any of you know what these untagged buttons do?
   Thanks,
  
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Re: captcha program for mac computers?

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The only game in town is the FireFox nightly build and Webvisum.

Best regards.
Geoff


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Re: Sound Hound

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Hi Diane,

On the results screen, I see three unlabeled buttons.  one is directly below 
the word results and a second is in that same row on the left hand side.  
Lets call them UK1 and UK2 going left to right.  Directly below UK2 is a button 
labeled with the name of the artist.  

Just from playing around in order to prepare my post, it would appear that the 
button I named UK1 will play a preview, or if the song is already in your 
library presents a choice between the standard preview, or your version.  The 
other two above and below the artist will display a review of the album 
including it's contents.  There are unlabeled buttons corresponding to every 
song title which will play samples.  Remember that you can use the 
two-finger-double-tap-hold gesture to label elements, or relabel ones where you 
don't like the name -- for example, in the SoundHound search result window, you 
might want to change control infopage save to save.

Bare in mind that we are a very small segment of the population, hence we often 
have to meet developers half way.  Most have never had cause to use VoiceOver, 
so won't know what is meant by a badly labeled element, unless you can explain 
where they are and how they vary from the nicely labeled ones.  Just my two 
cents.

Best regards.
Geoff


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  From: Diane Bomar 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 6:02 PM
  Subject: Re: Sound Hound


  Thanks, I  am running ios 5.1.1, running the latest paid version of 
  soundhound (5.0.1, I think).
  After searching for recognition of a song, several buttons come up. I can 
  read the lyrics, at the bottom of the page, and the back button, but not the 
  artist or song title. There are several buttons, at that point, and the next 
  level, that are just button
  I would think that asking to have all elements labeled, would result in 
  the developer looking at the code to determine which elements do not have 
  text labels.
  Thanks,
  Diane
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  From: Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
  Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 3:57 PM
  Subject: Re: Sound Hound


   Greetings Diane,
  
   I too am totally blind, but consider Soundhound to be very voiceover 
   friendly.  There are a few unlabeled buttons, which in my experience don't 
   preclude the ability to fully exploit all features of interest to me.
  
   I understand your frustration with the developers response (kind of 
   analogous to the 1980s vintage office sign reading: the beatings will 
   continue until employee morale improves), but to be honest, I had the 
   identical question upon reading your post.  Perhaps if I try a different 
   approach?
  
   1. Can you verify that you're using the current version of SoundHound?
  
   2. Is it the free or paid version (this probably doesn't affect the 
   interface)?
  
   3. Are you using the current IOS public release (5.1.1)?
  
   4. What happens when you launch SoundHound -- is all text unreadable, and 
   you see no discernible buttons?
  
   5. If so, try using the back button in the upper left hand corner until 
   you're on the home screen where all buttons are clearly labeled without 
   any need for the label element ( two finger double tap and hold) 
   gesture.  If you cannot locate a back button, try the scrub gesture which 
   is supported throughout the app).
  
   One of the available settings is to have SoundHound listen for music on 
   startup, but for me, this screen is very clearly presented via VoiceOver. 
   I can't imagine where you might be landing.
  
   Please let us know how you're getting on, and perhaps the list can be of 
   more help if we know a bit more about where you're getting stuck.
  
   Best regards,
   Geoff
  
  
   - Original Message - 
From: Diane Bomar
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 4:57 AM
Subject: Re: Sound Hound
  
  
Yes, that is what I suggested. Haven't heard back.
  
- Original Message - 
From: Gordon Keen gordonk...@googlemail.com
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 1:57 AM
Subject: Re: Sound Hound
  
  
 Why not suggest the dev switches  voiceover on at their end and try to 
   use
 their app without looking at the screen or turning the screen off?
 Then again it's a bit surprising they didn't think of that themselves!

 Regards

 G

 From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England.

 On 10 Jul 2012, at 06:42, Diane Bomar wrote:

 Do any of you use Soundhound on the iPhone? There are several buttons
 without text labels. When I wrote to the developer about this, asking
 them to put text labels on all of their elements, explaining that I am
 totally blind, and that many others using Iphones are also blind, they
 wrote back to me

Re: Navigon Offline Navigation App Available for $20 off on iOS, Two Weeks Only [Dealhacker]

[Geoff Waaler]

Hi Jane,

The link Sarah provided should answer your question.  Short answer is that the 
maps you receive depend on which version you buy.

And to answer Lovette's question, I have no light perception, yet am able to 
use Navigon.  Not sure how accessible the optional in-app items such as pilot 
are, but the core features (excluding 2D or 3D map display) are very usable.

Best regards.
Geoff

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  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 9:26 PM
  Subject: Re: Navigon Offline Navigation App Available for $20 off on iOS,Two 
Weeks Only [Dealhacker]


  So if I buy this app, I'd get the maps included, or do I have to buy those in 
addition?

  Jane
  On Jul 3, 2012, at 9:43 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

   For those that use the app or for those that want to use the app here ya go.
   
   
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Re: external gps receivers and the i-phone

[Geoff Waaler]

It should also be noted that the accuracy of the iPhone 4s's receiver is very 
good.  The best I ever saw was from my iBlue 737 which maxed out at twelve 
feet.  As I recall, my iPhone 3GS sometimes got as low as 32 feet but didn't 
maintain that for very long.  I can't speak for the iPhone 4, but at some point 
the GPs receiver was apparently given a major upgrade, because my 4S more often 
than not shows 16 feet.  Now this may be an apples to oranges comparison 
because the iBlue number was reported by a Windows Mobile software product, 
where as the iPhone data was interpreted by the Ariadne GPS app, but I suspect 
that both products are simply reading this from a data block from the receiver, 
hence these numbers are meaningful.

Best regards.
Geoff


- Original Message - 
  From: Esther 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 12:00 PM
  Subject: Re: external gps receivers and the i-phone


  Hello Michael,

  Unless your iPhone is jailbroken you'd need to use an GPS receiver that was 
Apple approved for compatibility, such as the Dual Electronics XGPS150A, the 
Bad Elf GPS Receiver, or the GNS 5870 MFi Bluetooth Receiver as an external GPS 
receiver.  If you want to read more details on this subject, see my reply to 
Lovette's question about using a GPS apps on an iPod Touch a week ago in the 
forum archives.  Here's the link to the post in the secondary Mail Archive for 
this list:
  • GPS on an iPod Touch [was Re: An Excellent GPS app for iPhone and visually 
impaired people]
  http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/msg10357.html
  And you can use the access key shortcut Control-N (for Safari) to read down 
the thread.

  HTH.  Cheers,

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IOS podcatchers - was Apple's standalone Podcasts app for iOS is out

[Geoff Waaler]

IMHO, despite being a paid app, Podcaster is worth Apple's asking price for 
Podcasts, and not a cent more!!  At least in my experience, its a nest of 
perpetual bugs, that flourish despite several updates.  It does seem more 
usable than Podcasts though.

How do others find Downcast?  Do the purported features actually work, and are 
the devs responsive when contacted (for me, both are sadly lacking in 
Podcaster).

Geoff


  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim Noseworthy 
  To: 'Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility' 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:46 PM
  Subject: RE: Apple's standalone Podcasts app for iOS is out


  Hello:

  It's worth the price but that's about all.  It's not to be compared with
  programs such as DownCast or Podcaster.

  It may be, however, that SIRI will interact with this podcast program in the
  next IOS update.


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  From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
  [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
  Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:05 PM
  To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
  Subject: Apple's standalone Podcasts app for iOS is out

  Anyone try this yet? I will. as I love my podcasts. lol!

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Re: An Excellent GPS app for iPhone and visually impaired people

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Hi Lovette,

I recall a different product, whose name escapes me at the moment, but this one 
is an option that would render it possible to use IOS GPS apps on an iPod touch.

As I recall, the other item was priced about the same.
Best regards.
Geoff

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  From: Lovette Yewchan 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 9:52 PM
  Subject: Re: An Excellent GPS app for iPhone and visually impaired people


  sorry but what is  a blue tooth receiver and how do I know if it would work 
and with what?
  What price range would this be in?
  THanks.

  On 2012-06-19, at 6:00 PM, Glenn wrote:

   Yes, there are at least a few bluetooth GPS receivers that work with an 
   iPod, and then you can do the GPS apps.
   Glenn
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   From: Lovette Yewchan lyewc...@telus.net
   To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
   Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 5:56 PM
   Subject: Re: An Excellent GPS app for iPhone and visually impaired people
   
   
   this may be a very dumb question but can you use a gps with a IPod? If so 
   how do you set it up? I did try sendero but it was not very successful.
   Lovette
   
   On 2012-06-19, at 7:07 AM, Matthew wrote:
   
   Hi,
   
   If you are talking about Arradny gps it is a great app and use it all the 
   time.  It caust 5 dallars  and it even annances addresses and streets as 
   you pass them.  I do how ever wish it would annance the names of 
   businesses as well.
   
   Just my thoughts.
   
   Matthew
   
   
   
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   CC:
   Date: Tuesday, Jun 19, 2012 04:11:50 AM
   Subject: An Excellent GPS app for iPhone and visually impaired people
   
   
   
   Hello everybody
   
   There's an application which has come to my notice for iPhone which I 
   think members might find very useful. It's called Aridne GPS, and is 
   much much more than a simple GPS application. I've just bought it from 
   the app store and first impressions are that this is absolutely terrific. 
   Here are some links, (country-dependent),  to the developer's site where 
   you may read more and, optionally, buy the app. If the second one or 
   third one don't work, try the first:
   
   United Kingdom:
   
   @ @http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/ariadne-gps/id441063072?mt=8
   
   United States Of America:
   
   @ @http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ariadne-gps/id441063072?mt=8
   
   Australia:
   
   @ @http://itunes.apple.com/au/app/ariadne-gps/id441063072?mt=8
   
   I hope some may find this of value.
   
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Re: Pedometer app for iPhone

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Greetings,

The one I'm using is: iTreadmill.  It has a calibration feature, though I've 
found no need to use it.  After walking a measured three mile path, iTreadmill 
is consistently within a tenth of a mile, which seems close enough for my needs.

As for accessibility, all items are clearly labeled, but can't be reliably 
traversed via flick gestures.  Instead, it is necessary to explore the screen.  
It should also be noted that not all fields are visible, so if a desired item 
(e.g. step count) cannot be located, tapping another field such as distance or 
average speed will cause it to scroll.

And, this may be true of all pedometer apps, but iTreadmill will not keep 
totals while in the background.  Hence, if the phone rings, you will want to 
bring the iTreadmill window back in focus so as to preserve accurate totals.

Best regards.
Geoff



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  Subject: Pedometer app for iPhone 


  Hello, 
  Can anyone recommend a VoiceOver accessible pedometer app for the iPhone? I 
am looking for an app which will count the number of steps taken and the 
distance travelled. Ideally it would be nice if the app had a calibrate mode 
which would use GPS and the step counter to work out step length on a trial 
walk and then use that step length to compute distance walked when GPS is 
turned off. 
  I am currently using steptracker light which counts the steps fine but does 
not do the calculation to derive distance travelled. 
  Many thanks for any tips

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Nebulous Notes keyboard macros.

[Geoff Waaler]

Greetings,

Thanks to Esther's tip I started playing with NN4DB, and it seems to have great 
potential.

I wonder though if others have discovered a better technique for using the 
keyboard utility bar?  After enabling it and substituting unpronounceable for 
more meaningful names (i.e. undo, redo, etc), only three or four active 
items are visible at a time.  I can expose them via the three finger flick 
gesture and realize that its possible to reorder them so as to place the most 
commonly used ones on top, but am wondering if there is a way to expose more of 
them at a time?  Even with the one character names it did not appear that there 
were more than four keys visible at a time in the keyboard utility bar.

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Re: AirPlay

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It still comes in very handy if, for example you want to broadcast from an 
IOS5.1 device to multiple AirPlay devices simultaneously.


I am very curious about your new toy, but not sure if I'm ready to deal with 
another list.  Perhaps just this once (since the topic came up) you can 
consider posting your review here, or providing a link to it?


Best regards.
Geoff

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From: Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: AirPlay



Hi Sarah

It's working fine.  You don't seem to need AirFoil at all now.


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Re: spell check gone in ios?

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Yeah, things have indeed changed, but it appears that its still possible to 
avoid the pinch gesture.


When I enter a word that is announced as misspelled, I can flick up once 
in word mode or twice in character mode to focus on the offending word.  It 
then may be selected individually via the edit menu, which in turn exposes 
the replace option.


HTH.
Geoff

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From: Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: spell check gone in ios?


Hmm you used to be able just to swipe down to a character and go to edit, 
then replace. I'm surprised you have to now pinch as I don't want to do 
that as I have issues with my fingers and hands.

On May 15, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:


Hi Sarah,

I just tested the misspelled words: a n m a l and k u n t r y on my 
4S running IOS 5.1.1.  After selecting the offending word via the open 
pinch gesture, I am seeing a replace option when I use the rotor to 
select edit and flick down.  Double tapping results in a list of 
possible corrections.  Actually in the above two examples there only 
appears to be one choice.


HTH.
Geoff


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Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 3:52 PM
Subject: spell check gone in ios?


Hello to all. I noticed for a while now that I cannot spell check. I 
have spelling on, but when I hear misspelled I cannot go to the edit 
menu and hit replace. It just is not there, the replace option that is. 
Did it disappear compleatly or is  there something i need to do to get 
it back.



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Re: spell check gone in ios?

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Hi Sarah,

I just tested the misspelled words: a n m a l and k u n t r y on my 4S 
running IOS 5.1.1.  After selecting the offending word via the open pinch 
gesture, I am seeing a replace option when I use the rotor to select 
edit and flick down.  Double tapping results in a list of possible 
corrections.  Actually in the above two examples there only appears to be 
one choice.


HTH.
Geoff


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From: Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 3:52 PM
Subject: spell check gone in ios?


Hello to all. I noticed for a while now that I cannot spell check. I have 
spelling on, but when I hear misspelled I cannot go to the edit menu and 
hit replace. It just is not there, the replace option that is. Did it 
disappear compleatly or is  there something i need to do to get it back.



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Re: EU law forces Apple two-year warranty | Macworld

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Amusing that they state: companies should offer a free two-year warranty. 
Do most Europeans actually believe its free of charge without even a modicum 
of impact on the pricing of a product?  Its incredible that the vary people 
who applaud this sort of thing whine about the disparity in prices for 
identical products in their countries.  Of course since the US President has 
been intentionally trashing this nations currency for over three years, 
y'all may have a more favorable exchange rate, but the reality is that all 
costs have a direct affect on a company's profit margin which must be offset 
by increasing revenue.  The only method at a company's disposal to augment 
revenue is to price their goods and services accordingly.


To be fair, the pro-EU faction of Europeans don't have a monopoly on 
believing politician's fairy tales of a free lunch.  Its always amusing to 
watch supporters of our current President demand that these evil energy 
producers be taxed for various offenses having to do with being an evil 
corporation in general and the global warming hoax in particular. 
Ironically, those vary people complain when their electric bills skyrocket 
and they can't afford to fill their gas tanks, or purchase food (which 
generally requires transportation).


To keep this topical, its probably fair to conclude that citizens of the 
affected EU nations shouldn't be surprised to discover that this will hit 
them directly in the pocket book, which would be identical to the affect of 
raising taxes on Apple.  Corporations do not pay taxes you see -- they 
simply collect them from their customers.


Best regards.
Geoff

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From: Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: EU law forces Apple two-year warranty | Macworld



Hi,

Actually, this is perfectly justifiable. Before just now, you only got one 
year of warranty if you included AppleCare, which truthfully isn't any 
better than what the insurance any other company can provide. In a lot of 
countries, you have an insurance which covers all damages to electronic 
equipment, like computers, televisions, microwaves and so-forth regardless 
of the warranty provided by the manufacturer. And obviously, Apple 
misleads customers by suggesting that we pay for AppleCare for the second 
and third year when the two-year law in Europe didn't cover it at the 
time, which actually should have been the case as the article says.


So, Apple deserves taking the heat for this one, though I'm kind of 
surprised their lawyers haven't acted on this to prevent the misleading 
claims. Since I'm into law, at least as a hobby, I've been rather upset 
when I've shown up with damaged equipment to find I wasn't covered, but my 
insurance company was perfectly able to replace the item if it was damaged 
beyond repair, at least if you include the coverage when signing 
insurance. Of course, I haven't had damaged items, but I like to test 
Apple since they've been rather troublesome, not just in this area but 
also when it comes to advertising.


At any rate, I'm pretty happy to see Apple refining AppleCare and warranty 
now.


Regards,
Nicolai
On Apr 11, 2012, at 5:26 AM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

I'm not  so sure what to think of this. but here's the article. the 
reader is available in this one.




http://www.macworld.com/article/1166194/eu_law_forces_apple_twoyear_warranty.html#lsrc.rss_products_ipod


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Re: EU law forces Apple two-year warranty | Macworld

[Geoff Waaler]

Hi Nic and others,

We agree that pricing is a function of many factors -- the most tangible of 
which you mentioned are sales taxes (AKA vat in Europe), and the existence 
of competition.


Conceding your point that Apple failed to comply with EU consumer protection 
law does not alter my original argument that the mandated change will impact 
Apple's price to service the affected products.  They may choose to absorb 
those costs internally by lowering employee pay scales, reducing dividend 
payments, etc, but the more likely outcome is that they will conclude that 
its costlier delivering products in EU member nations and price their 
products accordingly.  Then most consumers will blame Apple rather than the 
EU!!


Best regards.
Geoff


- Original Message - 
From: Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: EU law forces Apple two-year warranty | Macworld



Hi Jeff,

Actually, what truly impacts the pricing of any product here are the tax 
rates, and at least last time I studied this, consumers and producers 
bargaining. They're usually price ratios which are determined by these two 
factors, while competition brings a tendency towards an equilibrium level. 
When taxes are levied, business are unable to immediately raise prices to 
forward the cost onto the consumer any more than before the tax was 
brought into action. It's a consumer/demand supply relationship. Of 
course, anyone can figure that out, since it's just common sense. It gets 
a bit more complicated, but I don't want to rant on here, since my primary 
knowledge is now in business ethics thanks to a friend.


What Europeans know is that Apple violated the European consumer laws, 
which is the important factor. The price really is not, as long as Apple 
is in accordance with the laws set forth. In this case, they were not. 
From what I understand, U.S. consumer law provides one year of limited 
warranty, at least from what I can gather from the information off of 
Apple. Europeans generally also know that there's a rather big price 
difference in products from the U.S. as opposed to buying a similar 
product in Europe, at least in some cases. That's not only because of the 
25%VAT implied in some countries, but it's definitely what plays the 
biggest part and what most consumers are going to know.


Regards,
Nicolai
On Apr 11, 2012, at 8:57 PM, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote:

Amusing that they state: companies should offer a free two-year 
warranty. Do most Europeans actually believe its free of charge without 
even a modicum of impact on the pricing of a product?  Its incredible 
that the vary people who applaud this sort of thing whine about the 
disparity in prices for identical products in their countries.  Of course 
since the US President has been intentionally trashing this nations 
currency for over three years, y'all may have a more favorable exchange 
rate, but the reality is that all costs have a direct affect on a 
company's profit margin which must be offset by increasing revenue.  The 
only method at a company's disposal to augment revenue is to price their 
goods and services accordingly.


To be fair, the pro-EU faction of Europeans don't have a monopoly on 
believing politician's fairy tales of a free lunch.  Its always amusing 
to watch supporters of our current President demand that these evil 
energy producers be taxed for various offenses having to do with being an 
evil corporation in general and the global warming hoax in particular. 
Ironically, those vary people complain when their electric bills 
skyrocket and they can't afford to fill their gas tanks, or purchase food 
(which generally requires transportation).


To keep this topical, its probably fair to conclude that citizens of the 
affected EU nations shouldn't be surprised to discover that this will hit 
them directly in the pocket book, which would be identical to the affect 
of raising taxes on Apple.  Corporations do not pay taxes you see -- they 
simply collect them from their customers.


Best regards.
Geoff

- Original Message - From: Nicolai Svendsen 
chojiro1...@gmail.com

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: EU law forces Apple two-year warranty | Macworld



Hi,

Actually, this is perfectly justifiable. Before just now, you only got 
one year of warranty if you included AppleCare, which truthfully isn't 
any better than what the insurance any other company can provide. In a 
lot of countries, you have an insurance which covers all damages to 
electronic equipment, like computers, televisions, microwaves and 
so-forth regardless of the warranty provided by the manufacturer. And 
obviously, Apple misleads customers by suggesting that we pay for 
AppleCare for the second and third year when the two-year law in Europe 
didn't cover it at the time

Re: exchange and ios mail

[Geoff Waaler]

Hi Sarah,

I didn't set up an account just now, but seem to recall that the manual 
setting does indeed preclude push.  I assume you specified m.google.com as 
your exchange server?  Under settings - mail, contacts, calendars - 
YourAccountName do you see a heading labeled exchange?  If so, the second to 
last control should be a button labeled: mail folders to push.  This may 
not be visible when it's set to manual?


HTH.
Geoff


- Original Message - 
From: Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com

To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 3:21 AM
Subject: exchange and ios mail


Ok. I set up a gmail account in ios mail using exchange and it works, 
except it will not push my mail to me in my notifications. I have the 
fetch set to manually. Can that have something to do with that?


Thanks all.
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Changing default camera to front-facing?

[Geoff Waaler]

Greetings,

Earlier this week I learned two valuable lessons.  Specifically, my guide dog 
needs to practice providing sufficient clearance for drop-offs.  Consequently, 
being submerged in a pool is not conducive to the optimum functionality of an 
iPhone 4S.  Actually, the latter was 
insightful, but now I have the personal experience to prove it.



I removed my phone from the otterbox defender and sucked water out of the 
headphone, speaker, and microphone openings.  The case protected the power 
button, USB connector, and volume buttons and switch on the left side, so it 
could have been a lot worse.  The phone was mostly working, but I decided to 
turn it off and pack it in rice for 24 hours anyway.



It appeared that my phone survived its little swim unscathed until I attempted 
to use the LookTell money reader app and nothing happened regardless of the 
lighting or bill placed in front of it.  I then tried light detector and 
discovered that no sound was emitted.  I then launched the camera app and it 
crashed when I attempted to take a picture or toggle to the front-facing camera.



I actually had not thought to provide suction on the camera aperture area at 
the time.  I packed it in rice again last night, to no avail.



I can still make face-time calls, hence only one camera is certifiably FUBAR.  
My thought was that if I could change the default camera it might still be 
possible to use apps that depend on that hardware and put off having to use one 
of my two allowed damage replacements under Applecare.  I explored settings, 
and Google, but have not discovered a way to do this other than within the 
camera app itself which does not appear to be an option.



I thought I'd ask here if anyone can offer a suggestion before I suck it up and 
visit the Apple store.



TIA and best regards.

Geoff
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Re: Can't pair keyboard to IPhone

[Geoff Waaler]

Hi Shaun,

A couple IOS versions ago I experienced a situation where I was unable to 
pair until I cleared out all items from the task switcher.  Since then, when 
anything FUBARs, my initial step is to clear that puppy.


Secondly, I believe the keyboard is only in pairing mode for a few seconds 
after powering up.  You may want to remove the batteries so as to make 
certain of it's on/off state, press and hold the power button, and try 
pairing again to see if it appears in your list of available devices.


Best regards.
Geoff

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From: Shaun Oliver blindma...@gmail.com

To: Mac Access mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 1:53 AM
Subject: Can't pair keyboard to IPhone



Hi,
I'm trying to pair an apple wireless keyboard to my new iphone, but every 
time i try, it keeps telling me to check that the keyboard is turned on 
and in range, both of which are the case. The keyboard is the same one you 
get with an Imac.



Sent from Shaun's iPhone
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Re: Abbyy Fine Reader Express and Prizmo

[Geoff Waaler]

Hi Catherine,

Sandra Tomkins put a lot of time and effort into documenting her experience 
using Prizmo on her iPhone4 last year, and Esther did an excellent job on 
the post below which should help to get you started with Prizmo.


Subsequent to the authoring of this post, IOS5 was released which rendered 
it possible to take a picture by pressing the volume up button.  I have 
chosen to use that technique rather than the voice control method described 
below so as to avoid having to use the headset.  Pressing volume-up, however 
does introduce the risk of movement, though not as much as is involved in 
locating and double tapping the on-screen control.


Hope this helps and best regards.
Geoff

- Original Message - 
From: Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk

To: AnotherList
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 3:00 AM
Subject: Re: prizmo


Hello X,

Here are the instructions for Prizmo that Esther posted a little while ago.

Cheers,

Anne



One of the features that contributes to Prizmo's increased effectiveness for 
visually impaired users is the ability to take pictures with speech control, 
by saying, Take Picture, which reduces the likelihood of a blurred image 
due to moving the phone when you double or split tap a button to take a 
picture.  You turn this feature on in the Settings menu by double tapping 
the Settings button in the top right corner of the main Prizmo screen. 
Flick right to the General Settings button under the Settings heading 
and double tap.  On the General Settings screen, flick right past the 
Capture heading and set the Alignment Grid to Switch button, off, then 
set the  Speech Control to Switch button, on.  I believe both switches 
are turned on by default, but it is several  months since I configured 
Prizmo. I'm not sure whether turning off the Alignment Grid is necessary, 
but you certainly don't need it to be displayed, since you can't see it 
while using the camera. Once you have checked that these settings are in 
place, double tap the Settings, back button in the top left corner to 
return to the Settings screen, then double tap the Done button in the 
top right corner to return to the main Prizmo screen.


The main Prizmo screen has a list of types of documents to scan and OCR, 
followed by a Documents button at the bottom of the screen that are 
results you want to store in the app.  In general, you will choose to double 
tap Text (the first listed entry).


The app works in 3 stages, which are indicated by the 3 buttons at the 
bottom of the the next (Photo) screen: (1) Source (obtaining the image 
using the Camera -- can also use previous images from your photo album taken 
outside the app), (2) Image (options to apply corrections to image before 
OCR -- generally requires vision to perform actions, such as cropping to 
only include the part of the image that contains text or correct for 
distorted pictures because you didn't hold the iPhone flat),  and (3) OCR 
(perform the OCR with an option to choose the language to improve the OCR), 
then display the results for editing, copying, etc. or saving in the app's 
stored Documents.  You can navigate through the app without ever using 
these buttons, just by double tapping the Next button in the top right 
corner of the screen to move through each stage, and that's probably the 
easiest way to use the app when you get started, especially if you only work 
with documents in English.   However, if you want to OCR a document in a 
different language, you can improve your results by double tapping the OCR 
button (third or three at the bottom right corner of the screen) and then 
flicking left to the language button (e.g., English) in the row of option 
buttons for that screen, and double tapping.  You'll be able to double tap 
another language from the list of 10 available languages. (Note that you 
will not hear selected announced beside the currently selected language in 
the list, but you can only exit the Language menu by either double tapping 
a new language selection or by double tapping the Cancel button in the top 
right corner.  Once you have changed the language (e.g., to French) and 
returned to the Photo screen with the OCR button set, you should hear the 
new language, French, announced if you flick left to that button.) Setting 
the OCR language before applying the next button improves the recognition 
of words with accented characters  -- otherwise I may get a 6 for an e 
with acute accent, and other such examples.


Here's the sequence for the iPhone 4, assuming that you have configured the 
Settings menu as outlined earlier.  It is very helpful to use the $0.99 
Light Detector app to check lighting conditions and also get a sense of 
the optimal centering and height of the iPhone above the page before you use 
Prizmo.  (You can hear when the Light Detector signal is loudest if you 
move the phone up and down or left/right and forwards/back with respect to 
the page.  This only gives a rough sense 

Re: Updating to 5.1

[Geoff Waaler]

Hi Catherine,

Assuming you already have IOS5 installed, you can accomplish this on your 
IOS device by going into settings---general---software update.


Others here are reporting trouble with this technique, but it went 
flawlessly for me on Wednesday and I assume that is the experience for most. 
If that does not work you'll need to connect to your mac or PC, launch 
iTunes, arrow down to the devices tree and expand it to find your device. 
Then under the info tab you can tab to a button labeled check for updates, 
or it may already know there's an update available and display an install 
button.


HTH
Geoff


- Original Message - 
From: Catherine G fit...@centurylink.net

To: 'Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 11:29 AM
Subject: Updating to 5.1



Sounds ignorant, I know, but how do I update to the 5.1 OS on my IPhone.



Catherine Golding

Olympia, Washington





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4G?

[Geoff Waaler]

Greetings y'all,

Yesterday I migrated my ATT 4S from 5.01 to 5.1.  While walking home this 
evening, I noticed for the first time that my network connectivity indicated a 
status of 4G.  Not sure whether ATT recently upgraded their towers, or perhaps 
the current IOS is better able to exploit or detect the presents of a 4G 
network?

Except for those areas where I dropped off into Edge land, I had no complaints 
whatsoever about bandwidth.  Still, I'm curious whether I can expect to see a 
difference now, or is it for all practical purposes just a different number in 
the status area?

Best regards.
Geoff
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Re: new ipad

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And you honestly consider that to be a reasonable request?  I'll go you one 
better.  How about demanding that every sheet of toilet paper be embossed 
with Braille instructions describing how to locate the area of application? 
After all, as a blind person I may never be able to locate it otherwise?


My concern is that if a company takes the steps that Apple has and people 
demand modifications such as you describe, as a CEO I'd take that as an 
indication that I need to get out of the business and leave it to the access 
technology people to worry about accessibility.  And ironically, I suspect 
most blind people would prefer to work with a QWERTY!!


Best regards.
Geoff

- Original Message - 
From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: new ipad



A better camera would indeed benefit us, and Apple needs to get a
touch-screen keyboard that mimics a Perkins's keyboard.
Glenn

- Original Message - 
From: John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: new ipad


  I can tell you how many times I read these knee jerk reactions like 
this.

People seem to foget that the iPad and other devices are not marketed for
the blind.  The vast majority of the market share are sighted folks. 
Thus,

the bells and whistles are going to be orientated for that population.

However, as pointed out, that does not at all mean that the
improvements to the processor and camera won't benefit the blind.  It is a
vast improvement overall, and as with any new iDevice, the extent of the
improvements are never apparent from the presentation and don't seem to 
get

fully realized until the device is being sold and third party developers
really start taking advantage of its new specs.

So, if you don't need a new iPad or you are happy with what you have,
that is fine.  The new iPad may not be for you.  However, don't make snap
reactions simply from a presentation that was not geared towards
accessibility and go assuming anything.

Take Care
John Panarese
jpanar...@mac-access.net



On Mar 8, 2012, at 4:56 AM, Sean Murphy wrote:


So, why are you so upset about it. The IPad and all like devices prime
market is for people with vision.
What would have you like to seen in the product specifically for VI's?

On 08/03/2012, at 7:20 AM, william lomas wrote:


new ipad waste money for us what was all that about touch and feel?
all about colors etc
stickw tih ipad 2 if you have it lol i would it does the job if it aint
broke, don't fix it


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Re: Dictation for the Mac?

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Hi Kristeen,

If you own a 4S, a less expensive alternative you may want to consider is the 
two dollar IOS app called Dictabulus recently described in David Woodbridge's 
podcast.

Best regards.
Geoff


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From: James AUSTIN james.aus...@mac-access.net
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: Dictation for the Mac?


 Hi Christine, 
 
 The solution I think you're looking for is called macSpeech. It is made by 
 Nuance, and you can find the Homepage here:
 http://www.nuance.com/for-individuals/by-product/dragon-for-mac/index.htm
 
 Please bare in mind, that my comments are based on past enquiries to Nuance. 
 That being said, I do not know if accessibility has improved recently.. The 
 last time I saw an in-depth discussion on-list about this, I seem to remember 
 that the initial training for the app was inaccessible. This training is 
 important, as it allows MacSpeech to become accustomed to your voice, 
 although it may be possible to bypass this and train as you go. 
 
 From a quick search in the App Store, it does not seem to be available there. 
 Also, I do not believe the company is willing to provide free trials, 
 although they did offer a money-back guarantee when i last enquired about 
 purchasing.
 
 There may however be a cheaper solution lurking somewhere, as MacSpeech seems 
 to be quite pricy if you only plan to use it until your arm gets better. 
 
 I hope this helps 
 
 TC :)
 James 
 You can contact me in the following ways:
 E-Mail:james.aus...@mac-access.net
 MSN: james.londons...@gmail.com
 Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who 
 you are when you send a request. Thank you
 
 On 27 Feb 2012, at 22:41, Kristeen Hughes wrote:
 
 Hello,
 I have to do a lot of typing and currently have an injured arm. I'm 
 wondering if there's a Dragon Naturally Speaking solution for the Mac and if 
 any of you know how well it works with Voiceover.
 
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Re: I can't save any documents

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Hi Sarah,

I had this issue last Summer and steps such as repairing permissions and 
clean reinstalls did not fix it.  Strangely noone else could reproduce the 
problem and while preparing  my post I can't seem to make it happen, though 
at some point I'm sure it will when I'm attempting to write to my hd while 
in a hurry.  Since it does not appear to affect most people, I suspect this 
bug only bites those who have done a clean install, and perhaps is model 
specific also?


I know this sounds strange, but try switching views.  I don't recall exactly 
which view was problematic for me (column I think).  So try switching to a 
different view such as list and you'll probably have no problems writing to 
your HD.


Best regards.
Geoff
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Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 1:35 PM
Subject: I can't save any documents


Hello. still running the clean install of lion I can't save any documents 
and I mean any documents. I get the you don't have permission and it won't 
even auto save. I  made sure that I was set to read and right in the 
folders, but no go. this happened when I clean installed lion before  and 
that was 2 days ago. I need to do this as I have several college 
assignments and assessments to do and write as soon as possible.


Please help. Oh and doing a permissions repair did not work.

thanks.
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Re: I can't save any documents

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Hi Sarah,

I had this issue last Summer and steps such as repairing permissions and 
clean reinstalls did not fix it.  Strangely noone else could reproduce the 
problem and while preparing  my post I can't seem to make it happen, though 
at some point I'm sure it will when I'm attempting to write to my hd while 
in a hurry.  Since it does not appear to affect most people, I suspect this 
bug only bites those who have done a clean install, and perhaps is model 
specific also?


I know this sounds strange, but try switching views.  I don't recall exactly 
which view was problematic for me (column I think).  So try switching to a 
different view such as list and you'll probably have no problems writing to 
your HD.


Best regards.
Geoff
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Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 1:35 PM
Subject: I can't save any documents


Hello. still running the clean install of lion I can't save any documents 
and I mean any documents. I get the you don't have permission and it won't 
even auto save. I  made sure that I was set to read and right in the 
folders, but no go. this happened when I clean installed lion before  and 
that was 2 days ago. I need to do this as I have several college 
assignments and assessments to do and write as soon as possible.


Please help. Oh and doing a permissions repair did not work.

thanks.
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Re: Safari questions

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Hi Kristeen,

One tool that may help with searching is the item chooser (VO-i).  Its 
functionality seems to have been abated in Lion, but its remains a way to 
quickly skip to elements on the web and elsewhere.

Best regards.
Geoff

  - Original Message - 
  From: Kristeen Hughes 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:49 AM
  Subject: Re: Safari questions


  Thank you. It helped a lot.

  Kristeen

  On Feb 15, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Gordon Keen wrote:

   I would also suggest that once interacting with the link you use the vo 
plus w toggle to read on the first press the word, second press by character 
and third press by phonetic spelling.
   
   It is also very useful to explore the potential of the web item rotor with 
vo plus u then moving the options with vo plus right arrow.
   
   Hope this helps
   
   G
   
   From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England.  
   On 15 Feb 2012, at 10:37, Thomas McMahan wrote:
   
   In answer to your first question, yes v o shift down thus interact, if it 
is is text then you can read letter by letter with v o right arrow.  If it's a 
link though, no, so if you want the letters of a link then copy it over into a 
new document or in a new mail, unless it's in the address bar itself, then by 
interacting you can get it letter by letter.  As for the other questions, don't 
know because I don't use the find very often simply because I want to be at 
where I am hearing what is spoken anyway so will put up with navigating instead.
   
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Re: Changing my password on IPhone

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Hi Catherine, Esther and others.

Though it can be messy, some times it works out better in the long run.  It was 
out of mom's control last Summer, when her ISP literally went away over night.  
She ordered her 4S by phone, and the sales rep created a new Apple ID because 
eMail communication was the only way that she could agree to the carrier's 
contract terms.  So I was tasked with merging the two ids while retaining 
access to the apps purchased under the old ID.

What I learned is that Sarah's suggestion should (but does not always) work.  
If the change can not be completed via signing out/in under the Store menu in  
iTunes, it may be necessary to deactivate the old id  at the itunes site.  If 
you have Apple care, they can talk you through it over the phone; I don't 
recall the exact procedure, and I suspect that Apple is making this info 
difficult to find in Google.  What I recall was signing in with mom's old Apple 
ID and then appending text such as a period (.) and a word such as delete, 
disable, or remove.  So the prompt would be something like 
m...@myisp.com.delete and after entering the password and confirming, its gone.

  The whole process does not take much time and will retain your DRM info from 
the old ID, but Iit may be best to call Apple and make sure you do it right.  
The other nice thing is that you'll once again get receipts when making 
purchases, and receive confirmation of genius bar appointments, etc.

  Best regards.
  Geoff

  - Original Message - 
  From: Esther 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 6:49 PM
  Subject: Re: Changing my password on IPhone


  Hi Catherine,

  Your Apple ID is not the same as your email address.  That's why I asked.  
You can continue to use it, I think, even if that no longer works as an email 
address. Changing it gets pretty messy.

  Esther

  On Feb 12, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Catherine G wrote:

   I need to change it because the ISP I used as my ID is no longer valid, so
   in order to validate a real account, I changed it. I'll try what you
   suggest and see what happens.
   
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   [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Esther
   Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 3:41 PM
   To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
   Subject: Re: Changing my password on IPhone
   
   Hi Catherine,
   
   I think you find the Apple ID under Settings  Store.  When I go there, my
   Apple ID shows up at the bottom of the screen.  If I double tap it, I have
   the options to View Apple ID, Sign Out, or Cancel.  Double tapping
   View Apple ID prompts me for my login password, and lets me edit my
   account settings, such as payment information.
   
   Before you make any permanent changes, where did you go to change your
   Apple ID, and what is the reason you are changing it?  That my help to make
   more constructive suggestions about how to proceed.
   
   Cheers,
   
   Esther
   
   On Feb 12, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Catherine G wrote:
   
   Where do I sign out? I can't find it anywhere.
   
   
   
   Catherine Golding
   
   Olympia, Washington
   

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Re: remotely locking an iPhone from your mac?

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Hi Sarah,

Assuming that your friend installed IOS5 and enabled find my iphone in 
settings--iCloud, this is sort of possible by going to the icloud.com site and 
signing on with an Apple ID and selecting find my iphone.

From my testing, this now only appears to be possible using either Google 
Chrome or Webkit/Safari.  Be ware of a few rather severe accessibility 
barriers though.  If a passcode is already set on the phone, one can select 
find my iPhone and after pressing the unlabeled button below the device (EG 
joe blows iPhone located 2 minutes ago) select remote lock and then press a 
button to confirm.  If a passcode is not set, however, the site prompts for a 
passcode and confirmation.  Sadly, these fields are not accessible to 
voiceOver or any other screen reading technology that I've tested so far.  
Even guessing and entering four digit numbers in the two likely places doesn't 
work.

On the Windows side (running XP pro), I can use Chrome with the same limitation 
described above (IE if a passcode is not already set I'm completely SOL), but I 
wouldn't dare try this using Mozilla Firefox 10.0.  When I select remote lock 
I keep receiving the admonishment for remote wipe and chicken out.

Best regards.
Geoff


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  To: mac access list iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 1:05 PM
  Subject: remotely locking an iPhone from your mac?


  Hello. I heard somewhere that you can remotely lock an iPhone from your mac. 
I've searched all over google but cannot find a way to do this. I'm asking on 
behalf of a friend how to do this and I'm curious myself lol!

  Take care all.

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Re: remotely locking an iPhone from your mac?

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Hi Sarah,

By do it, are you saying this person can remotely set a pass code, or compose 
a message to appear on the iphone when playing a sound?  I normally don't give 
up easily, but have tried this with four browsers on XP and Lion, and so far no 
tricks such as clicking the mouse or turning off virtual cursor in JFW13 have 
ever worked.  I wrote to the Apple accessibility team on this issue some months 
back and of course received no reply.

Best regards.
Geoff

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  From: Sarah Alawami 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 3:32 PM
  Subject: Re: remotely locking an iPhone from your mac?


  Acutally there was someone totally blind who can do it successfully wiht a 
mac. I dunno how though. but they can do it every single time.

  Take care all
  On Feb 9, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:

   Hi Sarah,
   
   Assuming that your friend installed IOS5 and enabled find my iphone in 
settings--iCloud, this is sort of possible by going to the icloud.com site and 
signing on with an Apple ID and selecting find my iphone.
   
   From my testing, this now only appears to be possible using either Google 
Chrome or Webkit/Safari.  Be ware of a few rather severe accessibility barriers 
though.  If a passcode is already set on the phone, one can select find my 
iPhone and after pressing the unlabeled button below the device (EG joe blows 
iPhone located 2 minutes ago) select remote lock and then press a button to 
confirm.  If a passcode is not set, however, the site prompts for a passcode 
and confirmation.  Sadly, these fields are not accessible to voiceOver or any 
other screen reading technology that I've tested so far.  Even guessing and 
entering four digit numbers in the two likely places doesn't work.
   
   On the Windows side (running XP pro), I can use Chrome with the same 
limitation described above (IE if a passcode is not already set I'm completely 
SOL), but I wouldn't dare try this using Mozilla Firefox 10.0.  When I select 
remote lock I keep receiving the admonishment for remote wipe and chicken 
out.
   
   Best regards.
   Geoff
   
   
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From: Sarah Alawami 
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility 
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 1:05 PM
Subject: remotely locking an iPhone from your mac?
   
   
Hello. I heard somewhere that you can remotely lock an iPhone from your 
mac. I've searched all over google but cannot find a way to do this. I'm asking 
on behalf of a friend how to do this and I'm curious myself lol!
   
Take care all.
   
Sarah Alawami
   
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Re: DropBox for the Mac.

[Geoff Waaler]

Hi Jim,

Run the installation directly from the volume (the .dmg file).  For some 
reason, that method is accessible, where as copying it to the applications 
folder and running it from there is not.  I got that tip on this list from 
Annie N last summer.

Best regards.
Geoff

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim Noseworthy 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 1:22 PM
  Subject: DropBox for the Mac.


  Hi Gang:

  Is this app accessible?  I can't get a darn thing out of it.

  thanks all over the place gang.

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Re: Adjusting VoiceOver speaker volume [was Re: Using the iPhone 4Swithout earphones_]

[Geoff Waaler]

You'll find that the volume will randomly drop -- some times the change is 
probably attributable to an inadvertent holding of the volume down key.  Still, 
I suspect there may be a bug somewhere.  For example, when I pull my phone out 
of a dock, the speaker volume may be all the way down.

If the remedy you discovered does not work, and no sound other than ringtones 
is emitted from your speaker, there may be a dust particle caught in the 
headphone jack.  This would cause the microswitch to remain open and 
consequently your hardware behaves as though headphones are connected 
regardless.  When this occurs, you can usually dislodge the obstruction by 
inserting and withdrawing headphones into your jack about ten times quickly.  A 
vacuum or canned air would also do the trick.  I have not yet experienced this 
problem on my 4S, but assume the hardware is unchanged and hence that 
possibility still exists, so its something to bare in mind.

  Best regards.
  Geoff

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  From: Esther 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 11:21 AM
  Subject: Adjusting VoiceOver speaker volume [was Re: Using the iPhone 
4Swithout earphones_]


  Hi Mike and Ian,

  Mike responded before I could, but his statement is correct: the volume of 
VoiceOver through the speaker and the volume for other audio sources playing 
through the speaker are set separately on the iPhone.  If it happens that for 
some reason the volume for VoiceOver has dropped through the speakers, just 
start VoiceOver speaking -- for example, by doing a two finger flick up to read 
all the contents of the current screen -- and use the volume up controls at the 
side of the iPhone to increase VoiceOver's volume through the speaker while 
VoiceOver is speaking.  You don't need to reset or turn off and then power up 
your phone to do this.  You simply need to make sure that VoiceOver is speaking 
when you perform the volume up adjustments.

  HTH.  Cheers,

  Esther

  On Feb 6, 2012, at 6:11 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:

   Hello Ian,
   
   I am greatly relieved to report that the problem has been solved.  Though 
your diagnosis was incorrect, it got me to thinking, and I resolved the problem 
in a pretty non-spectacular way.
   
   First of all, I went to the Sounds entry in settings and determined that my 
sound volume was at 100%.  Then, I turned off the phone and waited for a minute 
before powering it up again.  No change.  
   
   Finally, while holding the volume up key, after unplugging the earphones, I 
just started randomly touching the screen to make VO talk.  All of a sudden, I 
started hearing the speaker.  This leads me to conclude that the external 
speaker volume is independent from the earphone volume.  Perhaps this will help 
someone else, too.
   
   Best regards, and thank you for indirectly helping me resolve the problem. 
:)
   
   Mike
   On 6,Feb,2012, at 3:07 PM, Ian McNamara wrote:
   
   Hello Mike, no it is your Iphone, this should not happen. I'm on my third 
Iphone fours as the speaker went on my other two phones. It might be worth 
getting a sighted person to check that the volume is on full when using 
speakers. If it is on full and there is still no sound, go to apple and try and 
get a replacement.
   
   Ian McNamara

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Re: Siri and Orthography

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I'm sure Google will pull up other references, but one good source of Siri 
punctuation dictation refinements is here.  


Have fun!
  Geoff

  - Original Message - 
  From: Zachary Kline 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 1:14 PM
  Subject: Re: Siri and Orthography


  Hi Mike,
  Punctuation is quite easy to use. Just say, for instance, period, comma, 
and the like.
  Common acronyms are handled automatically based on usage, but I'm not sure 
there's a definitive list anywhere. Less common ones might require some use of 
the Siri capitalization commands. These can be found, among other places, in 
any good book on using Siri. A Google search should also turn up this 
information.
  Hope this helps,
  Zack.
  On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:

   Hi,
   
   Now that I have the iPhone 4S, I am starting to experiment with Siri.  I 
was wondering if there was a way to get Siri to use proper punctuation in 
sentences.  Is it possible,for example, to tell Siri to insert punctuation 
marks in sentences?  How can one get Siri to handle acronyms properly?
   
   Thanks in advance,
   
   Mike
   
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iBooks and punctuation - was Navigating in Preview.

[Geoff Waaler]

  Hi Eric, James and others,

  Using iBooks would be an excellent suggestion, especially if there is a 
setting in VoiceOver and/or iBooks that I'm missing.

  While using the two finger swipe down gesture to read take control of the 
command line in epub format, it was often necessary to ascertain  the exact 
text or punctuation.  In read-all mode I could not find a way to have voiceover 
say all punctuation, which would have made things more understandable when 
items with vowels were pronounced as words.  The only way to really know the 
exact syntax was to stop VO, and move via word or character navigation to the 
start and flick through it one character at a time.  This process is rendered 
harder by the fact that stopping from read-all does not appear to place the 
insertion pointer anywhere near the desired content.

  The other thing I noticed was that image captions are often read.  Therefore 
in the case of the missing manual series where images are described in detail 
and that identical text is used to caption the associated image, the result is 
many time consuming entries from the department of redundancy department (DORD).

  My thought was that if I could instead read on the Mac, I could cut/paste 
examples from the take control book into terminal, and perhaps blow off image 
captions.

  Thanks to all who contributed preview and PDF reading suggestions also!!
  Geoff

  - Original Message - 
  From: James AUSTIN 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:31 PM
  Subject: Re: Navigating in Preview.


  Fileapp is also a good choice for reading PDFs on the iPhone. 

  Interestingly, although Skim is touted to be a better PDF reader than 
Preview, for some reason, if you are reading in single page view, when you 
move to a new page in Skim, VoiceOver does not start reading from the top of 
the page when reading manually with the VO keys.

  You can contact me in the following ways:
  E-Mail:james.aus...@mac-access.net
  MSN: james.londons...@gmail.com
  Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who 
you are when you send a request. Thank you

  On 4 Feb 2012, at 20:45, Eric Caron wrote:

   Hi Geoff,
   
   I have read PDF files on the iPhone in ibooks.  Is that a option?  Or is 
using the iPhone not a good option for reading this file?  I'm pretty sure you 
have a iPhone as I believe I remember several helpful and several humorous 
posts you have made regarding its use. 
   
   Best,
   I still find PDF reading on the Mac and on PC challenging.
   
   
   
   eric Caron 
   
   On Feb 3, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
   
   Thanks to all who responded.  I may buy Skim though its primary function 
seems to be features I don't care about.  
   
   Travis stated that its not hard to get where you want to go, and that is a 
reasonable expectation.  After hiding the tool bar it seemed to work better, 
but now when I quit interacting, and bring up the go to page dialog via 
command-option-g and interact immediately, my focus remains where ever I was 
previously.  Page up/down also have no apparent affect.  Reading this 900 page 
file one page at a time (toggling interacting every step) is not a viable 
option.
   
   If this is in fact not hard, perhaps you can offer a suggestion?
   
   TIA and best regards.
   Geoff
   
   
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   From: Travis Siegel 
   To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
   Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 10:28 PM
   Subject: Re: Navigating in Preview.
   
   
   If you're having trouble with previews continous view, try the single  
   page view instead.  This will only allow one page at a time to be  
   vissible to vo, so that you won't be dropped back at the beginning of  
   the document.  There's some tricks for staying where you want to be  
   in the preview app, but it's all dependent on whether or not you're  
   interacting, and how your cursors are set, and (apparently) sometimes  
   where the real cursor is.  It's actually not hard to get where you  
   want to go, but it is a bit tricky, and takes timing sometimes (since  
   you need to catch vo before it starts reading from page 1, interact  
   with the text, then (usually) you're back where vo was, but  
   occasionally, this doesn't happen, so you get dropped back at the  
   start, which can be quite confusing, especially if you're new to  
   preview, and don't know how to move around.
   But, if you turn on single page view, this problem goes away, with  
   the only caveat being that you can't read the whole pdf from start to  
   finish with a vo-a like you can if it's in cntinuous mode.
   hth.
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Re: Navigating in Preview.

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Thanks to all who responded.  I may buy Skim though its primary function seems 
to be features I don't care about.  

  Travis stated that its not hard to get where you want to go, and that is a 
reasonable expectation.  After hiding the tool bar it seemed to work better, 
but now when I quit interacting, and bring up the go to page dialog via 
command-option-g and interact immediately, my focus remains where ever I was 
previously.  Page up/down also have no apparent affect.  Reading this 900 page 
file one page at a time (toggling interacting every step) is not a viable 
option.

  If this is in fact not hard, perhaps you can offer a suggestion?

  TIA and best regards.
  Geoff


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  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 10:28 PM
  Subject: Re: Navigating in Preview.


  If you're having trouble with previews continous view, try the single  
  page view instead.  This will only allow one page at a time to be  
  vissible to vo, so that you won't be dropped back at the beginning of  
  the document.  There's some tricks for staying where you want to be  
  in the preview app, but it's all dependent on whether or not you're  
  interacting, and how your cursors are set, and (apparently) sometimes  
  where the real cursor is.  It's actually not hard to get where you  
  want to go, but it is a bit tricky, and takes timing sometimes (since  
  you need to catch vo before it starts reading from page 1, interact  
  with the text, then (usually) you're back where vo was, but  
  occasionally, this doesn't happen, so you get dropped back at the  
  start, which can be quite confusing, especially if you're new to  
  preview, and don't know how to move around.
  But, if you turn on single page view, this problem goes away, with  
  the only caveat being that you can't read the whole pdf from start to  
  finish with a vo-a like you can if it's in cntinuous mode.
  hth.
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Re: VO muting and other IOS5 wierdness - was iphone 4s problem.

[Geoff Waaler]

Hi Ian,

I doubt it's relevant, but you'll find the use compact voice option under 
settings-General-accessibility-voiceover.  The compact voice is of lower 
quality, but the trade-off is that it will place less of a demand on system 
resources.

Absent any kind of specifics in your problem scenario I can only venture to 
guess at a few possibilities.

Sometimes the speaker volume winds up at the lowest possible setting.  This 
could be as a result of human action such as having the phone in your pocket 
and the volume down button is pressed repeatedly.  I also believe that an IOS 
bug causes this.  For example, pulling my phone out of a dock some times 
results in the loss of volume, or some times it seems to happen for no 
discernible reason.  To resolve this I'll take some action or gesture which 
should cause the speaker to emit output such as telling Siri to play music.  
Then holding the volume button should have an affect, which is not the case 
when there is no active sound output.  If you hear the music, but not vo, try 
toggling it via the tripleClickHome gesture, or if that doesn't bring results 
press the power button eight times quickly to reinitialize.

If you still get nothing other than ringtones emitted from your speaker, you 
may have a dust particle caught in the headphone jack causing the microswitch 
to remain open and consequently your hardware behaves as though headphones are 
connected regardless.  When this occurs, you can usually dislodge the 
obstruction by inserting and withdrawing headphones into your jack about ten 
times quickly.  A vacuum or canned air would also work.

The above two problems are not specific to any particular IOS device or 
firmware level.  Since I got my 4S, however, I've been experiencing an annoying 
intermittent/unreproducable problem that comes in two flavors.  Since my 
hardware and firmware upgrades occurred simultaneously I can't say whether this 
is specific to the 4S, or if others running IOS5 are seeing this.  The two 
others I know of who are experiencing the problem also use a 4S on the ATT 
network, so perhaps the carrier/sim card is a factor?  I donno!  Anyway, what 
happens is that I answer a call and can hear/speak to my party for a second or 
two.  Then we both go mute for about ten to fifteen seconds.  If the person is 
not a regular caller, they'll likely assume the call was dropped and hang up.  
After the long pause, all goes back to normal.

The second incarnation is that I do not hear my party, and in fact discover 
that my phone appears to be completely turned off since activating the mute 
switch does not cause any vibration.  Pressing the power button has no affect, 
nor does the hard boot sequence (press and hold home and power for ten 
seconds).  My phone becomes a paperweight for about ten minutes, after which I 
can power it on and the functionality returns to normal.

I have not reported this to Apple because I cannot provide a scenario.  I 
recall Sarah A once described how to capture log files, but this problem does 
not appear to generate a log entry.  A friend contacted Apple and in typical 
fashion, they denied everything and replaced the phone which still has the same 
issue.

So, if you're problem is not covered by the above, perhaps you could post a 
detailed description with a helpful subject line and we'll be glad to help.

Best regards.
Geoff


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  From: Ian McNamara 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 9:55 AM
  Subject: Re: iphone 4s problem.


  Hi how do i change to compact voice?

  Ian McNamara
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Re: Call muting issue on 4S [Was: Re: VO muting and other IOS5wierdness - was iphone 4s problem.]

[Geoff Waaler]

Zach,

This is helpful indeed.  So I guess the question for Bryan and others is 
whether they saw this on the current IOS (5.01) before moving to the 4S and 
which carrier they're using?

- Original Message - 
  From: Zachary Kline 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 2:18 PM
  Subject: Re: Call muting issue on 4S [Was: Re: VO muting and other 
IOS5wierdness - was iphone 4s problem.]


  Hi Brian and all,
  This is very odd, as I've not experienced this issue at all myself in the 
weeks since I got my iPhone. I'm on Verizon, perhaps the network has something 
to do with it?
  At any rate, as far as I'm concerned the phone works perfectly. I wish I had 
more constructive feedback to offer.
  I'd suggest calling the carrier, as they can tell you what happened on their 
end between the time the call arrived and you were able to speak.
  Yours,
  Zack.
  On Feb 2, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Bryan Jones wrote:

   Geoff - I upgraded from the 4 to the 4S a few weeks ago and immediately 
began to experience the first issue you mentioned below. It doesn't happen on 
every call, but happens often enough to make me gun shy like the prox sensor 
did back when the 4 was first released. I've ATT network, latest IOS, standard 
troubleshooting, etc. Haven't notified Apple yet. Haven't experienced the 
second issue you listed.
   
   Bryan
   
   On Feb 2, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
   what happens is that I answer a call and can hear/speak to my party for a 
second or two.  Then we both go mute for about ten to fifteen seconds.  If the 
person is not a regular caller, they'll likely assume the call was dropped and 
hang up.  After the long pause, all goes back to normal.
   
   The second incarnation is that I do not hear my party, and in fact 
discover that my phone appears to be completely turned off since activating the 
mute switch does not cause any vibration.  Pressing the power button has no 
affect, nor does the hard boot sequence (press and hold home and power for ten 
seconds).  My phone becomes a paperweight for about ten minutes, after which I 
can power it on and the functionality returns to normal.
   
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Navigating in Preview.

[Geoff Waaler]

Greetings,

I'm attempting to read a publication on my MBP running 10.7.3.  It  comes as 
either a 20.3 ePub document or a 60.3 MB PDF.

When I open the epub, it launches an empty textedit window.  I've waited 
several minutes to allow time for the file to open, but the file always appears 
to be blank.

When I open the PDF, I can see the document in preview, but have not yet 
determined how to easily move around.  Once I managed to jump to a page, but 
have not been able to make this happen with any degree of certainty.  There 
must be a proper permutation of interaction and goto commands since it did 
happen once.

I tried pressing command-option-g and entering a page number in the resulting 
dialog.  I then have to stop interacting with the tool bar and vo-arrow to the 
text.  If I use the scroll gesture it seems to reflect my desired position, but 
when I interact and start reading I'm at the top.

Is there a better mac app for reading large documents?  If not, what step am I 
missing in preview?

TIA for any/all suggestions and best regards.
Geoff

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Re: Usable mainstream GPS on the iPhone?

[Geoff Waaler]

To expand on Esther's comments a bit, I intended to mention that beginning with 
Navigon NorthAmerica version 2.0 (and presumably also the European version)  
released last November, it is now possible to selectively install maps by 
jurisdiction.

Bare in mind that the mapping data for main stream products is compressed much 
more (not to mention more current and less expensive to maintain) than their 
humanware/SenderoGroup counterparts.  To give you an idea of the storage 
requirements, Navigon NorthAmerica's largest map is California taking up 100.1 
MB.  Texas comes in second at 96.0 MB.  As for Canadian provinces, Ontario at 
40.7 MB beats out Quebec by nearly 7MB.  Most of the States and provinces are 
smaller.  I'll list a few so as to give you an idea:
DistrictOfColumbia=1.1MB
Maryland=15.7MB
Illinois=38.5MB
NewYork=43.8MB
NorthCarolina=45.3MB
Virginia=34.0MB

So, you don't need the 64 GB model just to run GPS apps, though the larger 
storage capacity is fun, and I'd rather have the problem of having to much 
space smile.

Best regards.
Geoff


  - Original Message - 
  From: Esther 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 1:03 PM
  Subject: Re: Usable mainstream GPS on the iPhone?


  Hi Mike,

  I agree with Geoff's comments and recommendations but there is one importatn 
correction: MotionX GPS Drive is only available in the US There is another app 
that they make, called MotionX GPS, that is available internationally and that 
is often confused with the first product, but that does not have the features 
that give turn-by-turn directions that Geoff is speaking of. So if you want a 
GPS app that can be used in both the US and in Europe, you'll have to choose 
Navigon. Also, you have to purchase separate apps for Navigon US (or North 
America, or a region of the US) and for Navigon Europe (or a specific country). 
The usage format is similar, but the map data is different. The Navigon apps 
typically take about 1.5 GB each to download. You need twice the space to 
unpack and update the app.

  I also agree that you'll want to get the free AroundMe app and/or Where To? 
-- Discover your next destination ($2.99 from FutureTap). These have a much 
better interface for searching for points of interest, which can then be sent 
to the default Maps app, or Navigon, MotionX GPS Drive, TomTom, etc. They'll 
list matches to your search terms in order of distance from your current 
location or, you can set this to be a location from your contacts or that you 
type in, if you're planning travel. These are great apps to have, even if you 
don't have an iPhone or use GPS apps, and I used both on the iPod Touch before 
I ever got an iPhone. The really useful function that was added to the Where To 
app last July is the ability to use the built-in compass on an iPhone or iPad 
with 3G, and update information on direction and distance as you travel. So, 
for example, if you search for a restaurant, and then check the detailed screen 
for your POI, near the top right corner of the screen, you
 'll hear something like, Direction and distance, right, 240 yards, and this 
will update as you travel in both terms -- so you could hear slight right or 
straight ahead, and the distance decrease as you approach your POI. This can 
be set to use metric distances in the settings.

  I should probably mention that I've heard that some iPhone users in 
Scandinavian countries find the POI database in AroundMe out of date, compared 
to the one in Navigon. That's the only set of locations I know of where users 
don't really like these POI helper apps. Both AroundMe and Where To work 
internationally, and also support other language localizations.

  HTH. Cheers,

  Esther

  On Jan 30, 2012, Michael Busboom wrote:

  Wonderfully instructive and helpful, Geoff, thanks!

  I think I will have to get a 4S with 64GB if I start downloading maps onto my 
phone.

  I will contact you either by phone or off-list with some more questions.

  Thanks again,

  Mike

  On 30,Jan,2012, Geoff Waaler wrote:

   Greetings Mike,
   
   Motionx GPS Drive uses GoogleMaps, and has a setting where they can be 
cached on the IOS device. This would minimize data usage, and since you can 
always go to the cloud to retrieve current maps, they should in theory be 
always more current. IMHO, from a VoiceOver perspective MotionX is a bit 
quirkier than Navigon initially, in that many items are not labeled. For that 
reason you probably would not use Motionx to search for businesses, but other 
apps such as WhereTo and AroundMe accomplish this and integrate with Navigon 
and Motionx, which, considering the price difference renders the Motionx POI 
search inaccessibility a non factor.
   
   I have Navigon and am very satisfied, but if I was making the choice today 
would go with Motionx.
   
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Re: Usable mainstream GPS on the iPhone?

[Geoff Waaler]

Greetings Mike,

Motionx GPS Drive uses GoogleMaps, and has a setting where they can be cached 
on the IOS device.  This would minimize data usage, and since you can always go 
to the cloud to retrieve current maps, they should in theory be always more 
current.  IMHO, from a VoiceOver perspective MotionX is a bit quirkier than 
Navigon initially, in that many items are not labeled.  For that reason you 
probably would not use Motionx to search for businesses, but other apps such as 
WhereTo and AroundMe accomplish this and integrate with Navigon and Motionx, 
which, considering the price difference renders the Motionx POI search 
inaccessibility a non factor.

I have Navigon and am very satisfied, but if I was making the choice today 
would go with Motionx.

To answer your previous question, Navigon stores all maps on the phone.  They 
now require a subscription to keep the maps up to date.  Unlike most reviewers 
at the app store, I don't begrudge them ten dollars a year, since they do need 
to pay their provider and have not passed those costs to me for over two years 
before implementing the policy.

In the US app store Motionx costs $2.99 (I believe it may still be on sale for 
$1.99).  This includes one month of voice guidance.  The app can be used 
without voice guidance to plan routes, etc, or you have the option via in-app 
purchase to subscribe to voice guidance for $3/mo or $20/year.  By contrast, 
Navigon NorthAmerica's fresh maps option costs $20 for two years.

I suspect one major advantage of Motionx in your case is that unlike Navigon, 
you would not need to purchase two apps in order to use it in both Europe and 
NorthAmerica.

Best regards.
Geoff


  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael Busboom 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 8:49 AM
  Subject: Re: Usable mainstream GPS on the iPhone?


  I forgot to ask one other question, Justin: Is there an accessible app for 
the iPhone or iPad that would allow one to use Google Maps?

  Thanks again,

  Mike

  On 30,Jan,2012, at 12:36 PM, Justin Mann wrote:

   Mike,
   Personally I think that Navigon s the best.  First, it does have the 
ability to work in Europe, and the U.S.  Second, it's reasonably priced 
anywhere from $30 U.S at the low end, and $50 U.S at the high end.  It doesn't 
use goggle maps, but it does use the navteq mapping solution.  As far as i can 
recall, it has maps for , the U.S, Canada, Europe and I think Australia, but 
don't hold me to the later.  
   Hope this helps,
   Justin
   
   On Jan 30, 2012, at 4:33 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
   
   Greetings,
   
   I will soon acquire an iPhone 4S and had a couple of questions about GPS 
solutions.
   
   1.  Although I know of Sendero Look-Around, I am wondering if there is an 
app that works with something like Google Maps.  It would really be even better 
if one could get turn-by-turn instructions.
   
   2.  I can't really make use of a GPS solution unless it works in several 
countries.  The appeal with regard to Google Maps is that this problem would be 
solved.
   
   3.  Lastly, approximately how much do the GPS solutions that work with 
VoiceOver cost?
   
   My thanks to all,
   
   Mike
   
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Re: MagicJack IOS app.

[Geoff Waaler]

Hi Mike,

Upon initial launch, a dialog is presented where you can choose an existing 
account.  Now on the my.magicjack.com site, my number is associated with my 
iPhone and MJ device.  Presumably I will receive in-coming calls on the iPhone, 
but I've not yet had an opportunity to verify that.

  This app does not insert a tab in your phone settings, so to change accounts 
you would launch the app, double tap the account tab--advanced--forget this 
device.

  Best regards.
  Geoff

  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael Busboom 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 3:08 AM
  Subject: Re: MagicJack IOS app.


  Hello Geoff,

  As you know, I have two MJ accounts, one is the Magic Jack Plus, and the 
other is the older, traditional account where you plug a device into the USB 
port of your Mac or PC.  Do you know if the MJ app for the iPhone would allow 
me to use one of these two accounts, or would I have to create yet another 
account?

  Thanks and take care,

  Mike
   
  On 26,Jan,2012, at 6:45 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:

   Greetings y'all,
   
   While fighting the MJ site to ascertain their international rates I 
discovered the existence of a free of charge MagicJack app; it was the first 
one displayed when searching on the string: magicj in the US app store.
   
   Considering the accessibility of their Windows and Mac apps I wasn't 
expecting much, so this app was a very pleasant surprise,.  All buttons are 
clearly labeled.  I used the new IOS5 double tap and hold with two fingers 
(i.e. relabel) gesture so as to reduce some of the junk text that appears in 
all the buttons -- e.g. s1 asterisk became star, etc.  Once this was 
accomplished, the app can be used much more quickly.  Since vo and all other 
sound is routed to the ear piece upon placing a call, it may help to use head 
phones the first time and learn the location of the end button which is about 
an inch above the home button at the center of the screen, and the speaker 
button which is a bit above and to the right..
   
   This app renders it possible to place and receive calls to/from magicjack 
numbers on IOS devices via wi-fi or 3G.  I have not yet received a call, but my 
wi-fi call quality seems fine, and the one time I tried placing a call on the 
3G network with two bars, I didn't notice any difference except that it longer 
for the call to complete.  I do not have a MagicJackPlus, but even for those 
who do, this app might be worth considering since it renders it possible to use 
the mobile phone without chewing up minutes.  Those with older MJ hardware have 
the added benefit of not having to turn on the computer and run that nasty 
inaccessible addware that MJ calls SoftPhone.
   
   I went to AppleVis, but noticed that a review was already written and I 
didn't have much substance to add.  Thought I'd post here in case there are 
others like me who don't necessarily peruse AppleVis on a regular basis.
   
   Best regards.
   Geoff
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Re: Notifications, how to stop repeated notifications?

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Hi Eric,

You can set apps to behave differently.  In settings--notifications double tap 
and item under the heading: in notification center such as messages.  Near 
the bottom is a button labeled  repeat alert.  The possible choices range 
from never to alerts repeat at two minute intervals.  Also, as you probably 
already know, there is a toggle switch in 
settings--general--accessibility--voiceOver--speak notifications in locked 
screen which can suppress automatic announcements.

Best regards.
Geoff


  - Original Message - 
  From: Eric Caron 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 8:24 PM
  Subject: Notifications, how to stop repeated notifications?


  Hi Listers,

  I am reading the new Take Control Book about the iPhone 4S and read that you 
can change the setting for the number of times a notification is repeated.  
I've noticed for example that If I get a text and my hands are busy the 
notification keeps repeating.  I looked all over the settings area and in 
notifications but can't seem to locate the area to change this.  i would be 
happy with just 1 reputation. 

  I read the section in the book again but it is not clear to me where to go.  
Does anyone know how to change this?

  Eric Caron 

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MagicJack IOS app.

[Geoff Waaler]

Greetings y'all,

While fighting the MJ site to ascertain their international rates I discovered 
the existence of a free of charge MagicJack app; it was the first one displayed 
when searching on the string: magicj in the US app store.

Considering the accessibility of their Windows and Mac apps I wasn't expecting 
much, so this app was a very pleasant surprise,.  All buttons are clearly 
labeled.  I used the new IOS5 double tap and hold with two fingers (i.e. 
relabel) gesture so as to reduce some of the junk text that appears in all the 
buttons -- e.g. s1 asterisk became star, etc.  Once this was accomplished, 
the app can be used much more quickly.  Since vo and all other sound is routed 
to the ear piece upon placing a call, it may help to use head phones the first 
time and learn the location of the end button which is about an inch above 
the home button at the center of the screen, and the speaker button which is 
a bit above and to the right..

This app renders it possible to place and receive calls to/from magicjack 
numbers on IOS devices via wi-fi or 3G.  I have not yet received a call, but my 
wi-fi call quality seems fine, and the one time I tried placing a call on the 
3G network with two bars, I didn't notice any difference except that it longer 
for the call to complete.  I do not have a MagicJackPlus, but even for those 
who do, this app might be worth considering since it renders it possible to use 
the mobile phone without chewing up minutes.  Those with older MJ hardware have 
the added benefit of not having to turn on the computer and run that nasty 
inaccessible addware that MJ calls SoftPhone.

I went to AppleVis, but noticed that a review was already written and I didn't 
have much substance to add.  Thought I'd post here in case there are others 
like me who don't necessarily peruse AppleVis on a regular basis.

Best regards.
Geoff
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RE: Can anyone recommend an app for recording on IPhone and IPad.

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Hi Bubba, or what ever your name is; you've posted to various lists using three 
different names and some of your past headers suggest that you're employed by 
the state of Florida, so I'm not quite sure how to address you.

Apparently the civil service human resource screening people down there don't 
have standards;  I mean, do you really lack the reading comprehension skills to 
ascertain what Annie meant, or was your goal to waste all of our time pointing 
out that she was guilty of a typo.  I think that English is not Annie's primary 
language, yet I've learned a lot from her on these lists.  The irony is that 
your posts consistently contain about 20 times the average number of spelling 
and grammatical errors, yet English is presumably your primary language.  Go 
figure!!

Best regards.
Geoff



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To: 'Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility' 
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 7:43 AM
Subject: RE: Can anyone recommend an app for recording on IPhone and IPad.


Seating's ? do you mean settings?


Sign,
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Re: Phone Amego accessibility?

[Geoff Waaler]

Thanks to a free trial, I can report that the short answer to my question is 
that this app appears to be inaccessible.  When launched, it does not appear in 
the dock or present a menu, and it disappeared when ever I moved focus away.  I 
was able to relaunch Phone Amego by pointing to it and pressing 
command-downarrow.  It seemed possible to configure various devices, however I 
closed all Windows, and now when I attempt to launch, nothing happens.  If I 
use vo-rightArrow I hear the spoken message stating: phone amego has no 
windows.  I restarted without reopening windows, but this accomplished nothing.

So the bottom line is that it is possible to configure PhoneAmego once, but I 
suspect they used the technique of adding a pulldown menu to which the 
voiceOver authors have determined does not need to be read by VI customers.  
One thing to be said for competing screen readers

Best regards.
Geoff


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  From: Geoff Waaler 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 1:31 AM
  Subject: Phone Amego accessibility?


  Greetings all,

  Today, the MacUpdate site is discounting PhoneAmego by 40%.  I will list 
there brief description below.  I thought before blowing the fifteen bucks and 
playing ginny pig I'd ask if anyone here has tried it?

  Phone Amego (Family Pack) provides Caller ID, click-to-dial, Address Book, 
Google Voice, and phone integration for up to 5 Macs. 

  Features: 
a.. On screen caller ID with optional voice announcement. 
b.. Dial calls directly from your Address Book or selected text. 
c.. Works with popular Bluetooth phones including iPhone. 
d.. Works with landline phones connected through a USB modem. 
e.. VoIP caller ID with Linksys/Sipura VoIP telephone adaptors. 
f.. Caller ID sharing and remote dialing with other hosts on your LAN. 
g.. Keep notes about each caller in a distributed database and pull them up 
anywhere. 
h.. Send SMS to multiple recipients using Google Voice. 
i.. Shows inbound and outbound call progress. 
j.. Thoughtful, uncluttered user interface. 
  TIA for any input and best regards.
  Geoff
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Re: any good quiz making apps out there?

[Geoff Waaler]

Hi Courtney,

The one I've played with is an IOS app called Adaptive Trivia by Suchale which 
is available at the US store at least.  The full version is $0.99, but they 
have a scaled down version that is free of charge.

Its perfectly accessible, though IMHO, voiceOver users need to read and think 
fast.

Have fun.
Geoff


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  From: Courtney Curran 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 7:38 PM
  Subject: any good quiz making apps out there?


  Hi,
  Are there any accessible quiz making apps for ios or mac out there?
  Thanks,
  Courtney


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Phone Amego accessibility?

[Geoff Waaler]

Greetings all,

Today, the MacUpdate site is discounting PhoneAmego by 40%.  I will list there 
brief description below.  I thought before blowing the fifteen bucks and 
playing ginny pig I'd ask if anyone here has tried it?

Phone Amego (Family Pack) provides Caller ID, click-to-dial, Address Book, 
Google Voice, and phone integration for up to 5 Macs. 

Features: 
  a.. On screen caller ID with optional voice announcement. 
  b.. Dial calls directly from your Address Book or selected text. 
  c.. Works with popular Bluetooth phones including iPhone. 
  d.. Works with landline phones connected through a USB modem. 
  e.. VoIP caller ID with Linksys/Sipura VoIP telephone adaptors. 
  f.. Caller ID sharing and remote dialing with other hosts on your LAN. 
  g.. Keep notes about each caller in a distributed database and pull them up 
anywhere. 
  h.. Send SMS to multiple recipients using Google Voice. 
  i.. Shows inbound and outbound call progress. 
  j.. Thoughtful, uncluttered user interface. 
TIA for any input and best regards.
Geoff
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Re: a question about dropbox

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Hi Amber,

Assuming that you already have a dropbox account, download the .dmg file from 
their site and run the installer from the volume.  In my experience, things 
totally fubared when I attempted to copy it to my applications folder and run 
from there.  Specifically, I did not receive an accessible prompt for my 
dropbox credentials.  I suspect you can set up a new account via the installer, 
but I didn't have to do this.

After a successful installation, you'll find a dropBox folder in your home 
folder; the dropbox options are rendered visible via the shortcut menu 
(vo-shift-m).

HTH.
Geoff


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  From: Amber Harmon 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 6:33 PM
  Subject: a question about dropbox


  'Hi I just got a mac air I had a macbook but I knocked a glass of water on it 
and it fried. I am trying to set up dropbox can anyone guide me threw it thanks.

  Amber
  On Jan 6, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Daniel McGee wrote:

   Hi all have a couple of mail questions for you.
   
   1. When receiving mail, if I get a lot of mail. Example 28 messages for 
this list, why doesn't VO remember where I left off previously. To give you an 
example, going with the 28 messages well next time I use my Mac and have 
received all of those messages, I would be on 26 therefore I would have to 
arrow down twice my messages being sorted in the most recent at the very top 
and then start going up the list of unread ones. In other words, way doesn't VO 
stay on the message I last left it. If that makes any sense. 
   
   2. More simple this question and its simply is there any way to get VO to 
announce a message being unread. At present arrowing up and down unread 
messages makes them as red. 
   
   I am using Lion with all latest updates. I also have Mail set in the 
standard view but I have disabled the conversation threading thing. 
   
   Look forward to hearing from all you experienced Mac Mail users!
   
   Daniel
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XCode and C++, one more try.

[Geoff Waaler]

Greetings,

I think there's at least one other lister using xCode.  My question this time 
is how to test prompting for a value, or send command line parameters.

For example, if I compile/run the following C++ in terminal, I get the expected 
result:

#include iostream
using namespace std;

int main (int argc, const char *argv[]) {
int val;
cout  Enter a value: ;
cin  val
cout  You entered   val;
}

When I enter the above as a command line tool project and go to the build 
results under product in the project navigator it appears to prompt for the 
value, but no matter what I enter, val is set to 1.  I don't think this is a 
coding issue since its a pretty basic program and as stated, the output is as 
expected in the command line.

If noone out there is using xCode, perhaps I should abandon the idea of 
developing in an IDE, but this seems to be a more marketable skill to acquire 
since this is now the main stream methodology.

TIA for any assistance on or off list and best regards.
Geoff
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Re: Copy and Paste on the iPhone

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Hi Paul,

To extract a phone number, let me set up an example.  Lets say I have a text 
message as follows:


For a good time call 867-5309 and ask for Jenny.


Perhaps someone can find a better method but there appears to be no way to 
select the phone number exclusively while viewing a text -- IE when not in edit 
mode.  Instead I 
used the roter to get to edit and flicked down to copy (the only available 
option) the entire message.


Next I can either go to email or create a note where the above number is to be 
pasted..  Again I use the roter to land on edit, flick to paste and double 
click.


I now have the entire text quoted above, but all I want is the phone number, 
hence I move my insertion pointer to the F in For, but must pinch those 
five words away.  As one experiments with pinching this will become a lot 
easier.  You do a two fingers opening gesture I think of as a reverse pinch to 
select right of the insertion pointer and a real pinch (close two fingers) to 
unselect.  What is selected/unselected depends on the size of 
the gesture and current roter setting.  If selecting characters, a half inch 
open pinch gesture will likely cause VO to say that the r was selected and I'll 
hear three clicks indicating that the f and o were also selected.  The 
same gesture while the roter toggle is set to words would likely cause the 
words for a good to be selected.  I would hear three clicks and VO announces: 
good selected.  So I would first rotate to words and use a large open pinch 
gesture to select: For a good time call.  If I accidentally over do 
it and select the phone number I can use a closed pinch to unselect it.  If I 
only selected the word time I can do a tiny open pinch to select the 
word call (all data to the left remains selected).  Upon selecting the first 
five words, for my purposes I could press delete to make them go away, however, 
if you wanted to cut or copy them for some reason, you could get them to your 
clipboard by toggling the roter to edit, flicking down to either cut or 
copy and double tapping.  Either via cut or pressing del, those five 
words are gone -- I now have text reading:


 867-5309 and ask for Jenny.


Now all I need to do is place the insertion pointer to the right of the phone 
number, rotate to words and use an open pinch gesture to select the unwanted 
four words as described above.  When VO says something like: Jenny selected, 
press del and only the phone number remains.


HTH.
Geoff


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  Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 10:45 AM
  Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone 


  Hello, 
  Is it possible to do copy and paste on an iPhone 3GS running VoiceOver on IOS 
5? If os what are the gestures for copy and especially paste? 
  Many thanks. 

  Paul Hopewell 

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Re: Copy and Paste on the iPhone

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Hi Colin,

Before posting, I tested IOS 5.01, and can confirm that your statement is 
false.  As stated previously, it is only possible to extract a portion of text 
while in edit mode.  Otherwise, the only available option is the method I 
described -- IE Edit - copy/paste  into an edit field before extraction via 
pinch gesture.

Best regards.
Geoff

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  From: Red.Falcon 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 1:30 PM
  Subject: Re: Copy and Paste on the iPhone


  Hi there!
  Ok when sitting on the phone number!
  And if the rota is set to words!
  place thumb and finger pressed together on the screen and do the pinch out 
stroke and that will select the phone number!
  If the number has space's carrie on opening the pinch to select the next 
block of numbers!
  If the rota is set on letters the pinch open will select number by number!
  This will also work for words!
  It should also select line by line if the rota is set to that!
  But not sure!
  Then of course when you've got the number/words selected use the copy and do 
with it as you will!
  This pinch thing can be a little tricky you might change a rota setting as 
you open your thumb and finger if you put a little twist as you open them!
  But keeping them straight will select the items in question!
  hth Colin

  On 10 Jan 2012, at 18:08, Geoff Waaler wrote:

   Hi Paul,
   
   To extract a phone number, let me set up an example.  Lets say I have a 
text message as follows:
   
   
   For a good time call 867-5309 and ask for Jenny.
   
   
   Perhaps someone can find a better method but there appears to be no way to 
   select the phone number exclusively while viewing a text -- IE when not in 
edit mode.  Instead I 
   used the roter to get to edit and flicked down to copy (the only available 
option) the entire message.
   
   
   Next I can either go to email or create a note where the above number is to 
be pasted..  Again I use the roter to land on edit, flick to paste and double 
click.
   
   
   I now have the entire text quoted above, but all I want is the phone 
number, hence I move my insertion pointer to the F in For, but must pinch 
those five words away.  As one experiments with pinching this will become a lot 
   easier.  You do a two fingers opening gesture I think of as a reverse pinch 
to select right of the insertion pointer and a real pinch (close two fingers) 
to unselect.  What is selected/unselected depends on the size of 
   the gesture and current roter setting.  If selecting characters, a half 
inch open pinch gesture will likely cause VO to say that the r was selected and 
I'll hear three clicks indicating that the f and o were also selected.  The 
   same gesture while the roter toggle is set to words would likely cause 
the 
   words for a good to be selected.  I would hear three clicks and VO 
announces: good selected.  So I would first rotate to words and use a large 
open pinch gesture to select: For a good time call.  If I accidentally over 
do 
   it and select the phone number I can use a closed pinch to unselect it.  If 
I only selected the word time I can do a tiny open pinch to select the 
   word call (all data to the left remains selected).  Upon selecting the 
first five words, for my purposes I could press delete to make them go away, 
however, if you wanted to cut or copy them for some reason, you could get them 
to your clipboard by toggling the roter to edit, flicking down to either 
cut or copy and double tapping.  Either via cut or pressing del, those 
five words are gone -- I now have text reading:
   
   
867-5309 and ask for Jenny.
   
   
   Now all I need to do is place the insertion pointer to the right of the 
phone number, rotate to words and use an open pinch gesture to select the 
unwanted four words as described above.  When VO says something like: Jenny 
selected, press del and only the phone number remains.
   
   
   HTH.
   Geoff
   
   
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From: Paul Hopewell 
To: mac-access 
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 10:45 AM
Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone 
   
   
Hello, 
Is it possible to do copy and paste on an iPhone 3GS running VoiceOver on 
IOS 5? If os what are the gestures for copy and especially paste? 
Many thanks. 
   
Paul Hopewell 
   
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