Re: internet sharing
We use wingate and find it flexable and reliable but golly gosh it was a pain to configure. :) Tried ICS on ME but the filewall kept complaining that 127.0.0.1 wonts to talk to 192.168.0.1 and zonealarm had to be backed down a notch in security so ICS was removed. Good for dailup maybe but not 24/7. Like mad m below I've never had them crash in tandem yet? The Mad Macinchaote wrote: I personally use Sygate bc my server, the machine with the faster and more reliable modem, is running Win98, not SE, and doesn't have ICS built in. I don't like SE in the least, and I have my doubts about ME on this machine, as it's a bit of an older box. As for this, I never have had them crash in tandem yet. Not saying it doesn't happen, but it's not happened to me yet. - Original Message - From: Gregg Eshelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mac-N-DOS List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 5:48 PM Subject: Re: internet sharing either of those Gate products when either the Mac or PC would crash it would hang or freeze the other one. Never has happened using ICS. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... 123Inkjets.com http://lowendmac.com/ad/123inkjets.html / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... 123Inkjets.com http://lowendmac.com/ad/123inkjets.html / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: internet sharing
yahoo wrote: I have the cable modem hooked to the PC, software called All Aboard does the pass thru, out from another ethernet card and into my mac's ethernet Yeah, same setup here with one Mac running IPRouter and serving through local talk to a couple of classics the hub serves the other Mac and the extra slots are great for bringing home the imacs from work. Real easy to set up ... just need to assign adress manualy on the mac (see the documentation that comes with the software found on the internet) and voila ! Dhcp is great for adding extra machines. There's a very capable sharing of my single internet line ... and never had a crash in 8 months ... so very stable ... Jeff Thanks for the tip, never heard of All Aboard. What do you use for security on the pc? I'm no firewall expert but I get many hit per hour while on cable and don't fancy the idea of third party on the line, sadly too many hits to ignore. That's what put me off ICS otherwise it works fine. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... 123Inkjets.com http://lowendmac.com/ad/123inkjets.html / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
yadc
Hi. (yet another dos card) Nice to see some traffic. :) Picked up a 12 100mhz card and cable. It all works with pcsetup2.1.7 and OS9.1. I do have one problem, I cant figure what software I'm missing to have use of the cd to install doze95. So far I have got Dos6.22 on it, I also have the file pcsetup2.1.7.exe but that requires windows to be installed so I've found myself in a chicken or the egg spot I think. If not have a good laugh. After a reasonably long search including the links posted to this forum, I'm no closer to working out how to get win95 onto a disk image, it would be so much easier if it would load files from softwindows or VPC. Thanks for your time -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: yadc
Try a Windows 98SE emergency boot floppy with CD-ROM support and see what happens. It chokes loading the atapi cd-rom driver from Oak tech. Displays. Device name :MSCD001and thats as far as it goes with cd support. Works fine without cd support Should this driver work? The host machine is a 7300/g3/9.1 thou what I have read suggests it should work ok with pcsetup2.1.7. I'm just having trouble loading the wrong driver for the cd-rom? So where can I download doze95 in floppie images? :-D Thought I'll copy the needed files from the cd, across to to a hardfile and go from there, no problems there? See what you can find at www.bootdisk.com Thanks Gregg and Brian. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Compat card, cd drivers
Hi Gave up on the boot disk, taking way to long for a simple dos driver. Copied the setup.exe, win95 and Drivers folders from the cd to my dos bootable image ((they wouldn't appear on a freshly made and formatted hard file on the dos side. This is a OS9+ problem, work around in the readme, who reads the readme?) and changed it from C: to D: and D to C: and booted off the win98se startup disk, without cd support. D:setup Scandisk reported a couple of errors on the new C: drive and repaired them. Finally got win95 installed on C: After the install was completely finished I still had no cd-rom and no network. Now able, I lauched pcsetup2.1.7.exe. After the restart I finally have cd support and a program called Network Configuration not sure what good this is as it seems to require MFC42.dll MSVCRT.dll Well after adding the .dll's I don't think networking should be to hard. :) Little harder than the emulators though. Since the card is running on only its 8mb of on board ram I'm very surprised at the speed, it leaves the emulators for dead. The loading time and display are very good, simple things like dragging windows and opening folders are very quick in comparison its also very light on disk thrashing which was a bit of a concern of mine with VPC. If you have the chance Brian, get one, provided I can configure a network. Any help here would be great but might take the fun out of it. :-) I have found pc files on image 2 of apples pcsetup1.6.4. Stupid here thought everything was installed by the install program. Doh. The only thing I'm really missing is a readme. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Windows 98 on PC Cards
How much ram is on the card Mark? Are you installing from the win98 cd? Mark Benson wrote: I have a 7300/200 with a 12 PC Compatibility card in it. I want to run Windows 98 on it for doing Remote Desktop to an XP server (which requires 98 or better before you ask) but am having trouble getting Windows 98 to install. I have tried twice and it jams up during the main installation (at 22% and them 41%). Has anyone successfully done this or am I stuck with Windows 95? -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 32MB SIMM on DOS card
Mike Evans wrote: I've tried two different 32MB SIMMs on my DOS card (Performa 630) and can't get the PC to boot (works OK with 16MB). Any tips on SIMMs to avoid, SIMMs that work? Mike Hi Mike. You probably have the handbook but if not you can check out: http://mAnuals.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Manuals/desktops/9990031ZMACSUGLC630.PDF Note: The SIMMs used by the DOS-compatibility card are the same 72-pin SIMMs used to expand memory in your Macintosh. They are interchangeable. Apple's words (630), not mine. Finished networking the 12 with only the onboard ram. I think the classic mac loads more pages before something has to give. :) Now for some ram. Works with DHCP on the pc side and a static address on the mac side from a wingate4.5 proxy, had trouble with the version 3and finally upgraded. This config gives different addresses? Probably the way it should be but not what I had working with wingate 3.+ and both the mac side and the pc side on dhcp. Always the same address. To Mark: You probably have more patience than me and have read the readme in pcsetup 2.+ stating hardfiles made with OS9+ had problems with format? Off chance. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: virtual pc resources
Virtual PC Harddisk expander came out with the 2.1.3 update I think. Its 144k if you'd like it sent to you. I have it with VPC 4, but it expanded a disk that was once 256MB (I think) to 511MB and now says that that is the upper limit. Yes, thats correct.. The harddrive expander can only expand the file to almost double its original size. Bottom of the hard drive expanders readme. :) -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
covertring hardfiles
I noticed that VPC's hard drive expander will convert hardfiles from softwindows and dos-cards. We have alot of unnecessary drive space wasted with multiple hardfiles and I wondered if there was a hardfile converter to change images from VPC to dos-card? At present I can use VPC's D-drive as the dos-cards D-drive. No probs but I can't boot the dos-card from VPC's C-drive Drive has no operating system. I can make a partition for dos, since its not a hardfile will both the card and VPC be able to use it? Anyone tried Mandrake-8.2-ppc rather than X on their unsupported powermac? -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: covertring hardfiles
Gregg Eshelman wrote: Boot the DOS card with a floppy that has the same or newer system on it along with FDISK. (Try both the same and newer ones.) See what FDISK says about the VPC disk file and report back. Look only, do not try to change anything! :) Good place to start. All the hardfiles check out the same according to fdisk so for the fun of it ... C:, cd windows, win. registry file not found then blue screen of death, resources not found. This appears to be the only hook, Vpc's C-drive works happily as the dos-cards D-drive. No ill affects to the hardfile testing it, not that there should be. What file am I looking for? I really should know this one. :-( -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: covertring hardfiles
Gregg Eshelman wrote: Hmmm, sounds like the DOS card does something different than VPC with the boot sector, master boot record (MBR) or both. If you select the VPC C: file as C: for the DOS card, can you boot with a floppy and see what's on the disk file? Yes. If you can, make a copy of the VPC file, boot the DOS card with a floppy that has FDISK on it then enter FDISK /MBR See what happens, like will it boot the DOS card? If it will, try that copy with VPC. Nope, thats not it. No difference. ran it a couple of times to be sure. What did Apple have against drive activity led's anyway? Contents of my Win98SE MSDOS.SYS file. Same with w95b, no such file in ME. Its likely to be a simple hook, msdos.sys isn't the reg file what about the system file in windows, nope, thats not it. cya. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: virtual pc resources
http://www.connectix.com/support/vpcm_online.html = updates for 3, 4 and five. Help, .pdf mostly, knowledge base and a simple FAQ http://www.connectix.com/downloadcenter/pdf/Howto_win98_flat2expand.pdf = the recently talked about expanding of hardfiles and abit about the difference between version 3 and 4 http://www.connectix.com/downloadcenter/pdf/vpc5m_datasheet_nov01.pdf = v5 rundown. Didn't know v3 could make use of Voodoo cards, where and how? Anything below OS9 has a ceiling of 2gb per hard drive file on vpc regardless of version, this is a fault in the mac os as opposed to a similar fault with pcsetup and OS9+ VPC does not support firewire or cd-writing in any version. Virtual PC 4.0 provides a number of new features for drive images, including drive images that dynamically expand. These new features are only present, however, for drive images created with Virtual PC 4.0. Drive images created with earlier versions of Virtual PC, while useable with Virtual PC 4.0, do not have any of these new features. Unlike the separate hard drive expander in v3, it is incorporated into v4's setup screen I'm pretty sure these files are backward compatible. :) Version5 doesn't seem to change this. Minimum requirements for v5 are native G3+ processor, there's a good chance work will purchase a copy that I can try to test upgraded old-world machines. ;) There are a few tips for printing work around for the black band effect in the v4 readme and the knowledge base points you to the vpc help installed for tips on usb. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: NeroMAX CD-R software updates???
1.68 http://www.ikebanadrive.com/sup_downloads.htm 4th google link for neromax update :) Gregg Eshelman wrote: I have NeroMAX 1.1.7 and have not been able to find a single updater for it anywhere. www.ahead.de has no downloads for NeroMAX at all and the place I got it from is kaput. Who is supposed to support this app and distribute the updates? I found one referene to version 1.6.5 on google groups so there's an update out there, somewhere. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Dos Compatibility Shared folder
Mark D. Chapman wrote: I have an Apple P166 Card in my 7500 (98SE, 80Mb, Pcsetup 2.1.7, 2 virtual drives). Since I upgraded to 2.1.7 trying to access a shared folder from the PC side causes the PC to crash. I can't downgrade because I need long file name access. Is this a known problem? Any ideas on how to fix it? Hi Mark No probs here using 2.1.7, OS9.1 and Apples P100 Loads shared folders on the fly Have you tried running with a slimmer extension set? Dont need much more than the pc-setup suff and open transport I think. Rather than the folder you wont, can you mount any other folders? Not much help, sorry. Anything else wrong with the emulation? -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: virtualpc 2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd really like to be able to open the help file that is installed with Windows, but I can't figure out why that won't open. Are you talking about the help from the start menu? Do you have the files, WINHLP32.exe and WINHLP.exe in your C:WINDOWS folder? The HELP folder contains windows application help files. I dont think vpc adds anything to these. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: standby
Pam Durham wrote: I found the Power Management control panel, but how do I find the BIOS setup? There is nothing in the Power Management where I can change what the standby responds to. Del or F8 held at startup? Usually some message on the first screen pointing to it. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: YDL 2.3
Did you get Max and Mac n Dos confussed? ;) Has anyone had any luck installing Yellow Dog Linux 2.3 on a 8500/9500? I've tried, but it will not install completely. It installed ok on a 7300, some small issues with bootx YDL 2.2 installs OK on the 8500, but it has trouble starting MacOS 9.1 after restarting or shutting down. It always takes two attempts. Do you get the Bootx screen loading ok and then have trouble when choosing Macos? I'm downloading Mandrake Linux PPC 8.2 to try as well. I'll inform you of the results. Been there, the installer (applescript) wont function properly. Easy enough to get around, install the bootx extension and cp, from the settings folder in the bootx folder copy your preferred setting into your systems preference's folder after renaming it to Bootx Settings. The manual will explain what kernel image or init you need to copy. I'd do a text install as a graphic install failed on my machine as it did with YDL. You will also need to choose a scsi driver, I found the mesh.o worked rather than the mac53c94 as some people recommend. Well, I wish you luck, Mandrake is some what harder to install than YDL. I dumped it after I found had a keymap problem that I couldn't track down in runlevel 5 but which worked fine at init 3 other than that I prefer it to YDL If I can help give me a yell. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: new user wants to print
Actually mac n dos so thats half your task completed. ;) I know its a bit late but Michael was after the internal video cable. I dont have one and am only going by the service manual, no part #'s so its a pretty piss poor service manual, anyway if Michael can find or make the connectors it would be easy enough to make a cable for the job. mike wrote: er...this is the nac-n-dos list --- Gregg Eshelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An iBook is hardly vintage. Way OT for this list. But I'll tell you to have a look at www.macwindows.com and you should subscribe to at least the mac-n-DOS list and probably an applicable PowerBook list. = apostrophes, right... -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: More PC Card Questions
Hi Brian, While running software firewalls on the pc I found a few games would crash if they where deigned access to the tcp stack. Empire Earth is one that would take down the machine in a way similar to what you describe, perhaps the network problem has something to do with it. Looking at the games requirements, even 2mb video should work. You would have more than 100mb of swap space? Had to ask after a job last week. :) You might try, say the Doom demo, that will run on almost anything and puts its hooks into tpc. If it fails then I'd fix the network and try again http://www.pcsetup2x.com/support/support_manual.html clearly states that 95A is not compatible with 2.1.7 not sure about 1.6.4 sorry for the misinformation, thought I could hear Gregg. Other than those suggestions I cant think of anything else that might help. I'm over my download cap for the month but I'll try the Diablo demo on our card and VPC, let you know how I get on -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: More PC Card Questions
Brian Futrell wrote: At the moment, I am not using 2.1.7. I haven't been able to get it to work properly yet. Besides, the 8500/180 with that card in it is still running MacOS 8.1. Currently, I have 95C installed to a 1GB image file with no defined swap space - it takes as much as it needs. As soon as I connect it again, I'll try Diablo on it again. I had to get it out of my Craptiva Not suggesting anything more than my info was bad regarding 95a and PCs2.1.7 so I'd check before trying it with 1.6.4 if you where so inclined. As you say, no defined swap space except what room is left on the image. The problem the machine I was working on had was of 4.5 gb there was only 80mb left for page, swap or scratch, wouldn't think it would be a problem with a 80gb drive on D: less than a quarter full. Windows would load, everything works fine untill you load a game. Got to ask since I've no idea how big you made your images. I load VM onto D: as well as temp, cache and other rubbish, I dont suggest anyone else follow that, works well for me. The 8500/180 would enjoy the trip to 8.6, the card would probably perform better with PCsetup 2.1.7. Now I have said it so I'll consider this line replied to. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mirror sites with OS 9.2.1 update?
Gregg Eshelman wrote: Since Apple has decided to block using download managers lke Getright to download the OS 9.x.x and newer updates, they've made it impossible for many people stuck on dialup to download them. Try planetmirror again in 3 or 4 hours, gets abit busy at 10:30 saturday nights. Interesting that znet rates apple.com as a poor download site. Worse comes to worse you could appletalk it from my pc server but its still coming from Australia. Or try this maybe its closure to you ftp://ftp.ulaval.ca/Macintosh/Patch_+_Updater/9.1-9.2a9.2.1(US)/ ftp://ftp.ulaval.ca/Macintosh/Patch_%2B_Updater/9.1-9.2a9.2.1%28US%29/ -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: PC card on G3
JGE wrote: Does anyone on list, run a PC compatible card (Apple-100MHz model) on a G3 Beige??? Works well, pcsetup2.1.7, OS9.1. This card 12 has 8mb onboard and a empty DIMM. This was posted by Robert on another list and might help with other questions. http://homepage.mac.com/olivers/DOScard/DOScard.html -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: PC Setup 2.1.7 Troubles
Brian Futrell wrote: I tried what you mentioned, and when it got to 99% (sometimes it occurs when less has been done) it just sits there. Thats odd, is this while your creating the partition with fdisk or the format command? I'm using VPC 2.1.3. I purchased the upgrade to 3 when I still had an iMac, but with a 200mhz 604e processor in my 9500 it's too slow to do anything with except in DOS. In DOS it runs like a slow 486. On the iMac it was like a slow Pentium - I think it said it had a 37.7 mhz chip in it. : Now if I got my hands on a nice G3 upgrade or a nice deal on an iBook, then I may try something more recent. version 3 I found workable on the 7300/200 Softwindows ran better from memory I thought for the PC it was the three-finger salute (Ctrl-Alt-Del)? : At least it was on my PC, which I screwed up last week trying to put Mandrake Linux 9 on the same hard drive as Windows 2000 Pro. 3 fingers for a pc but ctrl, option, command and the small del key reboots the pc card. Not Win2k and MDK9 in the same partition or did your boot loader cause trouble? It looks like it's time to drag out my 8500 again. Are you sure the 4.3gb drive is error free? its given you some trouble or are you using other drives as well for your macOS testing? -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Good disk defragmenter for XP?
Gregg Eshelman wrote: I said in my original post that I tried Diskeeper Workstation and didn't like it. Yeah I've been good at that lately, sorry folks. So, if there is nothing other than Diskeeper, Speed Disk, or the defragmenter that comes with XP, what company is going to seize the opportunity to make a utility at least as good as prior versions of Speed Disk, except make it work on 2000/XP too? Here's a company with a Diskeeper trade in. http://www.raxco.com/ the product is PerfectDisk, knowing my luck it wont work with Fat32 or something. ;) http://www.e-technik.com/ has a product called Power Defrag which might also be worth a look. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: read from copied files on PC
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to bring back those files and apps to life or it's over ? Perhaps these files lost their resource forks during the transition. If you open the file with ResEdit, I believe it will add a resource fork for you. Didn't know that one. ;) Dont forget Maclink plus for the weird ones, careful how you use it though. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: pdandyk@dccnet.com is bouncing mail
Gregg Eshelman wrote: Every time I send e-mail to the list, I get this back. Same. :( only this list though. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mac Emulators--Which?
Michael Dawe wrote: Heh, I haven't looked at Worm for some time. I think I'll install a copy onto VPC for a laff. It should run at least 2x as fast as a real Plus even on VPC :) Well on Realpc its workable under win95 but I think the classic runs rings around it. :) Better under vpc, still the classic would beat it. How goes your end? :) -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: SoftPC--the 68K Version (Was: Mac Emulators--Which?)
William Ove wrote: on 5/28/03 12:25 PM, MUGWump at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Until recently, I only knew of the PPC-capable versions of SoftWindows and RealPC. Now I've learned that there were 68K versions of SoftWindows and an RealPC-equivalent called SoftPC, which have apparently passed into the realm of abandonware. The 68k DOS version was known as SoftPC, and I do have that. The original release of SoftWindows was available for 68K Macs, but I have never been able to locate a copy of the 68K version. You can install Win3.1 on SoftPC. My version of SoftPC is 3 800k diskettes. DOS emulation on the 68k Macs was quite good within limits. I ran SoftPC on a Mac SE/30 (16Mhz 68030) and it was useable for standard DOS text, spreadsheet, database operations, but pretty useless for any DOS graphics uses. SoftPC uses the upper memory for its own emulation needs, which blocks loading drivers or DOS high. This keeps one from freeing more than 520-550K of DOS memory. The Pro version allows access to extended/expanded memory, however it has the same limit on upper memory. I have softwindows1.0 68k 8 disks with the last image containing a bad header. :( Any help out there? Made with a quadra in mind. Also have softwindows 2 which appears to move to ppc. The SoftPC/SoftWindows packages are no longer distributed but rights to them belong to FWB software, which as I understand still sells RealPC. RealPC is in the heritage of SoftPC in that it also uses upper memory for its own use and makes it difficult to free conventional memory. Any product of the FWB/Insignia Solutions heritage is a system emulator, and MS system emulator either DOS or Windows. If you are looking to emulate iron then Bochs or BlueLable is a better emulator, however the precision of the emulation will result in MS systems running much slower than they do in the FWB/Insignia Solutions emulators. Mugwump wrote: As with my request for PC Setup 2.x, if someone is willing to share, please send it in 1.4MB chunks (.sit, .rar, or .arj) to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED], as well as scans of the manual; or a photocopy of the manual to P.O. Box 316, Fruitland Park, FL 34731. I'll gladly reimburse any costs. I posted a web archieve links 2 weeks ago which still has the working file, do a bit of work and get it yourself http://web.archive.org/web/20011216023334/http://www.pcsetup2x.com/products/products.html#pcsetup211beta I had downloaded PC Setup 2.1.7 not long back and was not aware it had dropped from site. I will burn it to CD and send a copy to the address you list. It is pretty small. A 1.4 meg installer for the Mac, a 1.5 meg DOS harddrive file with the Windows stuff and a 152K pdf manual. Unless you are using OS 8.6 or OS 9 on the Mac, V2.1.7 really adds nothing to the software on the Apple site. That is probably not technically correct, but for practical purposes it is true. If you are interested only in DOS on the PC cards, be aware that 2.1.7 has less DOS support than 1.6 from Apple. When running DOS programs from Windows, the DOS clip board is gone and with 2.1.7 installed one can not start in DOS mode. 2.1.7 runs on operating systems that 1.6.4 does not, I think that makes it a valuble piece of software, I've not found any problems running the dos 6.22 image. The 1.6.4 clipboard is used with 2.1.7, you install 2.1.7 over the top which is why its not a huge program. Thanks for the info William, we must use the dos cards differently as I haven't experienced the problems you mention. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: My Question: EIDE CD-RW's in Macs?
Michael Dawe wrote: So what's the real story? Enquiring minds want to know! The Mac must be able to support more than one internal IDE drive. It also needs a driver that will recognise the drive, the drivers that come with the OS recognise a lot of drives, but one may still need to resort to ResEdit to introduce more. Same goes for the burning software. The mac model at least would be handy, god knows its hard enough to get a IDE mac to see a change over hard-drive and impossible for the brain-dead thing to see a slave and master. Little wonder a pre BG3 model has trouble with a burner. Be easier to install a scsi burner to replace the scsi cdrom drive some of these ide macs have. AFAIK the burning software provides the supported burners driver. I dont think bin/cue files are handled by anything under the classic OS, maybe OSX, probably not. Hope to be wrong there. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: A Minor Netiquette Suggestion...
MUGWump wrote: BTW, don't want to be stepping on anyone's toes here; does the group have an in-house moderator, or is our dear ListMom the only official moderator of the group? What does this list need a moderator for? Currently your hour and a half in the future posts are the only things giving my client any problems, messing up the threads. Add to that my use of ns which wont follow a thread properly to save itself. Take them away and there's nothing wrong with the small amount of traffic. Newsgroups must play hell on you. I'll use *moz* to fix my problem as it annoy's me also. And you? This answer should arrive 30 minutes before the questions asked, bloody impressive if you ask me. :) -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: SoftPC--the 68K Version (Was: Mac Emulators--Which?)
William Ove wrote: on 5/28/03 10:39 PM, Darren at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have softwindows1.0 68k 8 disks with the last image containing a bad header. :( Any help out there? Made with a quadra in mind. Also have softwindows 2 which appears to move to ppc. I was also thinking of my old Quadra for use with Softwindows. I wonder if the DOS image for the 68K and PPC are the same. The last disk on the PPC version is simply part of the Drive image and might be the same as the 68k version. I'm not sure it would work in my case as they seem to be a segmented disk image, worth a look. I posted a web archieve links 2 weeks ago which still has the working file, do a bit of work and get it yourself http://web.archive.org/web/20011216023334/http://www.pcsetup2x.com/products/pr oducts.html#pcsetup211beta I had missed that link from earlier. Always nice to see the older items still available. I could only find one of the download links to work which was the .bin file. Hopefully someone will pick it up soon and make it easier to access, all parts now being freeware. Lou posted this link which contains some required info and the same working .bin file. :) http://web.archive.org/web/20020609180626/www.pcsetup2x.com/index.html I had downloaded PC Setup 2.1.7 not long back and was not aware it had dropped from site. I will burn it to CD and send a copy to the address you list. It is pretty small. A 1.4 meg installer for the Mac, a 1.5 meg DOS harddrive file with the Windows stuff and a 152K pdf manual. Unless you are using OS 8.6 or OS 9 on the Mac, V2.1.7 really adds nothing to the software on the Apple site. That is probably not technically correct, but for practical purposes it is true. If you are interested only in DOS on the PC cards, be aware that 2.1.7 has less DOS support than 1.6 from Apple. When running DOS programs from Windows, the DOS clip board is gone and with 2.1.7 installed one can not start in DOS mode. 2.1.7 runs on operating systems that 1.6.4 does not, I think that makes it a valuble piece of software, I've not found any problems running the dos 6.22 image. The 1.6.4 clipboard is used with 2.1.7, you install 2.1.7 over the top which is why its not a huge program. Thanks for the info William, we must use the dos cards differently as I haven't experienced the problems you mention. I will have to go back and do some more checking on DOS with 2.1.7 for I have not been able to get it to work as a stand alone. I have only had DOS working within Windows. With 1.6.4 one can copy text on the Mac side, switch to the PC side and paste the text into a DOS application. The reverse is true as well you can copy DOS text and paste it into a Mac application. I have not been able to get that to work either. Perhaps it is just part of more general DOS trouble. I dont believe its meant to be a stand alone replacement for 1.6.4 but a update you install over 1.6.4. I think the biggest example is the pc-clipboard file and the pc print spooler which are not included with 2.1.7 and so they are not over writen though the clipboard at least does work under 2.1.7 from pc - mac, I have got it to work the other way. Sorry I dont use the clipboard much, I know its working because the icon is in the middle of the mac screen for a short time when I swap from the pc. When one bangs away on this stuff working alone, it is easy to assume that the problem is simply part of the software. Now that I hear DOS works as a stand alone OS with the PC card and 2.1.7 I will go back and give the problem some more effort. :) when I joined this list I had 2.1.7 installed as a stand alone app running dos only because I couldn't figure out the cdrom driver and I had yet to install the pc compatabilty software onto the pc image. I made a new larger dos image yesterday, it all seems to work, better suited for 8mb than win95. :) I am not very familiar with Windows. I use DOS and the emulators in much the same way that many people use games. It is really just recreation. The Mac OS and Windows OS are productivity systems and for me I am sure either would be fine, but I chose the Mac a long time back and have not found any reason to learn a new system. I started with computers on a CBM 8032 (Commodore). Early on not only were computers productive but comprehensible. Mac and Windows are very productive systems, but for myself their operation has moved into the realm of magic. I find it a nice diversion to play with the internals of the old command driven OS even if its relevance seems to have passed. I've got an old commodore colt down stairs, some sort of 286 machine. The SX-64 is something I enjoy working with, very simple, small so the programs are really tight and in a language I can almost work out, I guess the apple][ is a bit like that though I haven't played with that for a while. Magic is a good way to describe the way things seem to work now, I guess I'm a little tied to things I think I
Re: More printers, more JetDirects, more questions, and asuccess!:)
Under laserjet 4plus and 4m plus there is mention of the J2341b, localtalk interface, discontinued 5/1/95 which may go a long way to explain why there's not a lot of info around. I couldn't find software for any jetdirect, does that make any sense? Could all thats required be in the print manager or driver for the particular printer? Yes, I'm very bad at printers. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: SoftPC--the 68K Version (Was: Mac Emulators--Which?)
William Ove wrote: I went back and gave it another try and you were correct, 2.1.7 is working fine with my DOS hard drive file. Must have been some glitch the first time through. Hi, did you have success with using the clipboard both ways? I can go mac - pc but have trouble the other way. Glad the info was useful. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: For Your Viewing Pleasure... (E-Mail Viewing, That Is)
MUGWump wrote: Now I know that Eastern STANDARD Time is -0500, while Eastern DAYLIGHT Time is -0400. Hope it leaves your emailer less confused. Maybe mine, too. :) you tell me, your still an hour in the future :) I haven't ruled out a problem with yahoo. Sorry I can't offer you any more of a fix than daylight savings. Linux containers: I'm trying redhat on vpc4, I realize this is not what you had in mind when you asked but you do have interesting choices for container size and type under vpc4. Well, like most of my first installs of redhat a hour and a bit where wasted. My own fault naturally, anywho I'll let you know how I get on in another hour and a bit. :) Fdisk was a bit scarey, I figured it would not look further than the allocated hardfile, wrong there. No damage or success so onward we go. Anyone used vpc4+ in this way? cheers from clueless -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: For Your Viewing Pleasure... (E-Mail Viewing, That Is)
Darren wrote: Linux containers: I'm trying redhat on vpc4, I realize this is not what you had in mind when you asked but you do have interesting choices for container size and type under vpc4. Well, like most of my first installs of redhat a hour and a bit where wasted. My own fault naturally, anywho I'll let you know how I get on in another hour and a bit. :) Fdisk was a bit scarey, I figured it would not look further than the allocated hardfile, wrong there. No damage or success so onward we go. Anyone used vpc4+ in this way? Well I never liked Redhat anyway. Running mandrake 7.2 instead, better formatting utility, better choice of packages, no problems making a boot disk which is where RH7 got stuck. Also not stuck using a fat32 filesystem, any speed increase is welcome. All up the emulation runs rather well, equal or fast to the win95 file. No driver problems so far Still some networking bugs to sort out but its moving along nicely, shame I dont have 9gb to spare and only gave the image 2gb, still a good result. Now can I get b2 to run a 68k pc emulator. ;) Cheers -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: For Your Viewing Pleasure...
MUGWump wrote: I just looked at one site, and it says that +1000 (which is the setting on your email) is the correct setting if you're in the same time zone as Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane. Adelaide is +950 (or +930? never dealt with a half-hour time zone before). Those were the only references to Australia on that site. +10:00 is correct, +9:30 for central and either +9:00 or + 8:30 for the west. its a good size chunck of rock FYI, the first page I hit tonight that was helpful was on a cargo airline site; http://www.sascargo.com/default.asp?NavID=402. I know this is off-topic, but it sure has been educational. I wonder if anyone else is checking their emailer's time settings because of our conversation? I'm not very good on GMT and figure most clients or operating systems are smart enough to update the clock at the right time for their timezone. http://www.worldtimezone.com/ looks about right??? - found this little link for linux on vpv2, might try something with a net install to mix it up abit. :) http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/VPC/vpc_linux1.html lot of unnessarsary work. Good morning my american friends, welcome to today, it was a good one. ;) Later or is that sooner? cheers. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Comparing Files and Folders
MUGWump wrote: For the Mac, I've found a utility called Folder Compare, http://www.pollet.net/FolderCompare/ which seems to do the same thing (I'm going to be passing it on to a friend so I want to be sure), but it doesn't say that it checks for byte mismatches, such as would indicate a corrupted file. Does Folder Compare do what I want, or is there another utility that will do the job (and what is it and where do I get it)? Dont know. A recent thread suggests hexedit which has a compare files option http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/hexedit/HexEdit_174.sit if it causes trouble find a lower version. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Need PC help
Hermann Ertl wrote: I got a PC, 6 years old, P II, 233 MHz Linux is installed When turned on it goes through what looks to me a boot up sequence. Then the screen display changes and it looks like the display is defective, can't read anything. Do you get lots of script saying this or that is loaded and then nothing at the end? I put into the CD drive a Win install CD but this made no difference. Did it boot from the cd or from the hdd? I would like, 1. find out what is installed (info like Apple System Profiler provides), Lets hope for a little more info than that 2. install Win 2000 You shouldn't have too much trouble, check the bios to make sure the machine's boot order is something like A,CD,HD0 meaning it will try to boot from the floppy then cd then the hard drive. This is usually found under the advanced bios option. To get to the bios, hold down the DEL key at startup, probably The win2k cd should boot, from there you can use the tools on the cd to format the hardrive and install. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Network problems
Gregg Eshelman wrote: I dunno if Windows' ICS can route internet traffic between two network cards. Best bet would be 2000 Pro or XP Pro. One other caveat is that Windows' ICS only works with the 192.168.0.x IP range with the 255.255.255.0 subnet mask. You could set that on the card the Macs will be connected to, but I bet you'll need some piece of Windows routing software to go between the two cards, especially if the LAN is using a different IP address range. ICS routes fine between two network (ISP-local) cards but the set ip range can be a problem for dual booting machines. Does anyone know a way to change the local nics default from 192.168.0.x -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: D-Link network card driving me 'round the bend!
Gregg Eshelman wrote: So having more than one active network interface card will give a Mac problems? Even with OS 9.2.2? I've heard of people using two on 68k Macs to turn them into routers. So why shouldn't it work on a PPC? Hi Gregg. The Realtec nic you have doesn't auto negotiate the onboard very well? Had the same trouble with two realtecs under linux, only one would work. Since the onbaord has no way of being switched off, removing all ethernet card drivers is as close as you are going to get. From there you can see if the Dlink (micronet, surecom, realtec ect) will work with the drivers. If so you then add the extensions for the onboard. Changing both nic's to static addresses clear my problem under linux. The startup now clearly states the speed is based on the cards auto negotation which is where I think your problem maybe. Once I saw this with linux swapping one of the nics to a dhcp address was as easy as it should be. For the sake of agruement, two of these cards in a win9x box also cause problems, at present I have no choice as to which nic will accept the cables dhcp, if I swap nics one card will 'disappear. This and the linux problem would be solved by manually setting the cards speed, unlike linux I haven't been able to find a way to do it automagicly. I have a q700 with two nics, no probs seeing the other card. :) So, how about some Ideas on how to get it to boot again with extentions disabled? (Which it currently won't.) And yes, I did download and install the latest drivers. Apparently you completely ignored the part where I said that. Easy, reinstall. you've trashed some part of the system file. Did the same last night fiddling with the network on the mac. Its a common enough problem when I try to do something different concerning networking on a mac. The last time was hooking up a scsi -enet adapter. Now boys play nice :) -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 10/100 PCI card that does work in a 7300?
David Klaus wrote: I have a 9600 and went through the Realtek thing also. I found someone on the LEM Swap list http://lowendmac.com/lists/swap.html who had Apple 10/100 cards for sale. His e-mail address is mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. Could you expand on the realtek thing please, what symptoms you found. Many cards have this chipset under different names and I have experienced trouble under both win9x and linux when using more than 1. On their own they are quite good nics, problems seem to begin when installing a second nic or using the realtek as a second nic which I guess is where Gregg and yourself strike trouble. Wednesday should allow me enough time to try one in a pci mac without the onboard nic, if that works I'll try to reattach the Macsence 10/100 to try to rule out the onboard of the 7300 and 9600 as being a major part of the problem. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 10/100 PCI card that does work in a 7300?
Gregg Eshelman wrote: --- Darren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't the 9600's have built in ethernet? Only 10 megabit. The point I maintian is the onboard causing trouble, something I hope to check. What's the first Mac with built in 10/100 ethernet? G3/233 at a guess, does this model support master and slave on each ATA channel? I'm guessing No! Again I might be wrong or it depends on revA or B. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
realtek 8139
Well its a surecom I'm trying. Realtek chipset. A little different to the Dlink. Default card/vendor name pci10bd,320. Driver expects pci10ec,8139 Macsense card/vendor pci10ec,d8 (for comparsion) Onboard doesn't have one I could find Card was installed as was the extension using the installer. Surecom make good drivers for this chipset for windows but nothing for mac that I can see. Well its not much of a test, i replaced the vendor and device id in the driver using the editor mentioned (ugly for a mac app) and uninstalled the driver (the unpatched version loaded fine, the card couldn't use it) then reinstalled the patched driver, restarted and system error bomb. Not as badly as Gregg, I could reboot with the extensions off and remove the edited driver so I'm back to where I was. I may try a version of either MDK or YDL on the weekend, I'm not sure they support the Macsense card though. I may swap the realtek out of the server box and try that first. I'm interested in the pci10bd part and guess its the bit causing trouble. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Pizza Box DHCP Server
Matthew O'Maley wrote: But what I would like to try is an LC series-pizza box style computer DHCP server, for my Windows/OS2/Linux based network, nothing fancy, just something to hand out IP addresses to the other computers. Is this do-able (for a windows style network)?? What software will I need?? Has anyone else out there done something like this? (i.e. Any suggestions??) Same answer, different list Matt. IPNetRouter 68k. :) -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: I just installed SoftWindows! (well, almost)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just bought a copy of SoftWindows version one on clearance and was able to partialy install it. When I got to disk #4, my Mac said it was completely unable to read it. I cancelled the install process and checked the remaining disks. I found that disk #7 was also faulty. I checked disk number 4 with Norton Utilities 3.5 and it was completely unrecoveable. I haven't tried recovering disk 7. Finally, I went back to the store where I bought it from, but they were unable to help; it sems they got rid of the excess inventory after they did their clearance sale. I was able to install the SoftWindows program, but not the accompanying hard disk. Any help with my project would be super; I haven't tried this emulator before but it looks like it will work fast enough on my 3400. The program itself takes up little of the space on the floppy set, the hardrive file takes up the rest. What version of softwindows are you looking for and are the other disks ok? Someone might be able to help once they have this info. :) -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Does OS X Have The dd Command? (Was: I just installed Soft
MUGWump wrote: I've recently hunted pretty hard for another task, and had no success in finding a RAWRITE utility as such for any variety of the Mac OS. I read in one place that the OSX Disk Copy utility can handle raw images, and possibly ShrinkWrap can. DD is the native utility in Linux for handling creating disk images; if there is a counterpart command-line utility in OSX, that could work too (presuming Craig has a Mac running OSX). Nortons 3.5 doessn't, can not and will not run on x, whether there would even be a floppy on a osx machine is another thing. But no one's 'fessed up that they know for sure that there is a utility that runs under the Mac OS (particularly in the classic versions) that can handle a raw disk image. Fart around with diskcopy 3.5 or similar, if you looked hard enough you'd find some mac images can be writen on a pc using raw write so one would expect the utility that made them would be what your looking for. Just sit or zip the disk and put it onto a disk at the other end. Quadra's display the ethernet extention while loading with extensions off. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: I just installed SoftWindows! (well, almost)
MUGWump wrote: Got a Basilisk II issue for those of you who have more experience. Just to get up and running quickly (I'm short of hard drive space), I created a little 50 MB HFV file and loaded in the System Folder from the Mac OS 7.5 Network Access Disk. It boots OK, but there are some features I'm missing. 1) The GUI setup states that I can turn on a My Computer feature which allows me direct access to my PC's files. I turned it on, but the feature doesn't come up. Is there something I'm missing because of the version of the OS I'm using or because it's not a full OS install? Right now I have to use TransMac to move a file into the HFV file. Your missing lots of little bits, 50mb is big enough for a custom install. theres a 10mb 7.5.3.img.bin file for a 7.5.3 install cd 2) Disk Copy 4.2 will run in the environment, but it won't directly read a floppy. I was able to get a Mac floppy to mount, but Disk Copy wouldn't have anything to do with it. The Read Master Disk option is greyed out. I was able to get Basilisk II to mount the floppy (without having to create an HFV image first), and I tried both drag/dropping it to the open Disk Copy 4.2 window and drag/dropping it to the Disk Copy icon. Nada. Check your options in the B2 gui, never tried so I dont know. Have you booted basilisk from a floppy yet? Here's something I like called RawriteWin http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/rawwrite.htm works well for sending images of mac floppies to other pc users, don't know if anything will mount them on a mac. Darren, you mentioned a Disk Copy 3.5. Would you send that to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (my binary drop box)? It might work better. In the meantime, I'm going to see what ShrinkWrap does (I have 3.0 and 3.5). If I ever get mol running. http://macfaq.org/software/macos.shtml#Q1.1.6 has some words about what I'm on about. Shrinkwrap might work Gregg, if you know someone with that Quadra 650 ROM, would you ask them to send it to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] The ROM I'm using is a Quadra 700/900 ROM, which Basilisk II says itself This is the worst known 1 MB ROM. http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ensl=fru=http://www.web-emulation.com/article.php%3Fid_article%3D23prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522palmos.rom%2B%2522%26start%3D50%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DN I cant find the english mirror. ;) Now would you explain why you must make a image to transfer part 3 of a segmented file. It would be much easier to just zip the file and send it. Then unzip it at the other end and copy it to disk 4 on the mac. The info for segmented files is stored the first segment, the pieces will loose their icons but should still work. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: I just installed SoftWindows! (well, almost)
MUGWump wrote: Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 00:12:37 +1000 From: Darren [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: I just installed SoftWindows! (well, almost) Your missing lots of little bits, 50mb is big enough for a custom install. theres a 10mb 7.5.3.img.bin file for a 7.5.3 install cd I'll go look for it. I've got room for that. Sorry http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/bootdisks.html 3/4's the way down. Darren, you mentioned a Disk Copy 3.5. Would you send that to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (my binary drop box)? It might work better. In the meantime, I'm going to see what ShrinkWrap does (I have 3.0 and 3.5). If I ever get mol running. http://macfaq.org/software/macos.shtml#Q1.1.6 has some words about what I'm on about. Shrinkwrap might work Was it Shrinkwrap 3.5 you were thinking of instead of Disk Copy 3.5? I don't know where any version of Disk Copy prior to 4.2 can be found. I've got Shrinkwrap (somewhere). I've previously read the article at the URL you were talking about, so it didn't add to the subject for me. Thanks anyway. Well MoL works. :) I checked my copy and the splash screen states Diskcopy 3.5 Disk Duplicator 4.2, are we talking about the same thing? Gregg, if you know someone with that Quadra 650 ROM, would you ask them to send it to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] The ROM I'm using is a Quadra 700/900 ROM, which Basilisk II says itself This is the worst known 1 MB ROM. http://translate.google.com/ Got it. BTW, you might be interested in knowing that there are websites now that will smushify (to use the term Patrick Crispen used in his Internet Tourbus article on the subject) a long URL like that to a short one that is easy to send. My favorite is TinyURL, which converted that four-line URL to http://tinyurl.com/n4vb. Click on that one and it'll bounce you to that big long URL, but you don't have to piece it together in a text editor to get a working URL (hoping letters didn't get lost in transit). Nah, I like posting long links, they work here so thats enough for me. ;) I'll take a look, thanks. I suppose, now that I think about it, that copying the files into Basilisk and making a .sit file would be less hassle than what I'm going through than trying to make images of the floppies; I just prefer to send disk images so that everything can be reconstructed as it was on the original disk. BTW, why do you call it a segmented file? Are you looking at your own SW 1.01 disks and see it set up that way? I haven't even dug out mine yet since I don't know for sure that I have a way to send them. Version 1 and version 1.0.1 must be very different then. Craig, we'll get you taken care of one way or another! :-) or find a way to make transferable .image files -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: I just installed SoftWindows! (well, almost)
MUGWump wrote: Sorry http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/bootdisks.html 3/4's the way down. I checked the link, but the server's unreachable. I don't know if that's a temporary thing or not. Regardless, I found a single .img file elsewhere and may try to make it bootable while I piddle with it. Just dont piddle on it. Gamba hosts a very good site, bit hard to navigate, well worth the look. Well MoL works. :) I checked my copy and the splash screen states Diskcopy 3.5 Disk Duplicator 4.2, are we talking about the same thing? We are, but you missed the double-apostrophe. It's Disk Copy 3.5 Disk Duplicator 4.2--the 3.5 refers to the diskette size, not the version number. Yes you are right, better rename the file, anyway, this uses 1.4mb images rather than diskcopy 6.3's 1.2mb images, I guess its used to make the network disk in the link posted earlier. There's a good page about the the different mac disk imaging programs somewhere, I'll try to find it Gregg, if you know someone with that Quadra 650 ROM, would you ask Got it. And Basilisk II's already running better. But I haven't had any success with Shrinkwp files being readable by ShrinkWrap. I may end up making Stuffit archives yet. You found a # for shrinkwrap then? Thanks for your help! Works both ways. :) -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Another SoftWindows Problem
MUGWump wrote: So did the floppy contain many files or one segment that could of been sent as an attachment? Actually, they're all still in the shrinkwrap so I haven't looked. I just took one look at the package, read the label, went GH! and that was that. Fair enough Do you think M$, the owners of VPC had a chat to FWB's new owners to point out how far behind RealPC had fallen and how the market really doesn't support more than one player any longer. :) Heck, the one player isn't even doing any supporting! What I've read (no, I don't remember where) is that it may be a year or more before there's a version of Virtual PC that will run on the G5. DUMB! M$ owns the main gateway to putting copies of its own OS on the Mac and they're not using it. I repeat--DUMB! I dont understand that, have you looked at why M$ has dropped IE? I'd suggest it in part explains why it will take so long. Ask apple to be a bit more open and there would be a lot more stuff for BetaX. I also read, however, that the open source Bochs PC emulator will run on a G5. Now, not having a hope in the world of owning a G5 anywhere in the near future (unless I acquire one through some generous benevolent benefactor--any volunteers? GGG), I can probably get away with saying this: if I were a regular user of Virtual PC for the Mac and found its new owners (M$) stiffing me on an upgrade for my new G5 just to be ornery and I had to figure out how to use an entirely different piece of software (Bochs) to run the Windows programs I wanted/needed to run on my Mac, you think I'd reward M$ for stiffing me by BUYING a copy of their OS and the latest versions of their applications? I DON'T THINK SO! Alt.Binaries.Warez*, here I come! I suspect that I am expressing the sentiments of a lot of new G5 owners (who, owning a G5, know better than to say it themselves). I repeat once again (Bill Gates, got your ears on, good buddy?)--DUMB Now shouldnt all osX software from a G4 run on a G5 so whats the problem? You want MS to rush out a brand new G5 optimized version of VPC in the same month that the box hits the streets? They dont do that for every pc upgrade so why the frag would they rush to do it for a third rate os? If you prefer to steal your apps then thats up to you. 'Nuff said about that. I just hope someone writes me (and Craig) off-list to let us know that someone can fix him up with the appropriate 1.0.1 disks. In the process, version 1 doesn't work, version 2 is taking some time. It would be simplier to just use Mike's method and save the need. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Getting Started with a PC Card
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I recently purchased a PowerMac 8600 upgraded with a G3/333 card. This computer also came with an Apple PC Compatibility Card installed. The machine is second hand and the origional owner wiped the HD so when I got the system I just knew that there was a PC card in it and that it had at least a 166 MHz CPU but that was all. I downloaded the most recent copy of Apple PC Compatability that I could find and the extentions and Control Panel load fine. From the Control Panel, I made a blank DOS container file and can boot the card but I can't see what is going on on the PC side and I can't find a way to get an operating system on it. I have a legal Windows 95 CD but it is not bootable. I have a Windows boot floppy disk but the Control Panel will not let me use the disk image as a drive, nor will it allow me to select the floppy as a bootable partition. When it boots up (without an OS) the Control Panel says PC Started and when I switch to the PC screen all I see is the DOS/PC clipboard but no PC display. 1.) How do I get this card booted with an OS from which I can install my copy of Windows 95 on the HD container from? 2.) How can I actually *see* what is going on with the PC side? I am guessing that since there is no OS that it is not letting me get that far but I don't know. Hi Matt And for everyone else, here we go again. :) Do you have much pc experience or are you a mac user? On my card you need the dongle to be connected to the dos card, the monitor output on the mac and the monitor cable itself. Yes? Have you a windows boot disk? if so use it as you would on a bare pc, fdisk, format and install. The install part requires the cdrom.sys (mac) to be subbed for the usual M$ junk on the floppy so you can use the macs, oh so speedy, cd-rom. This is the bit where, if your a mac person, I offer to send you a image which you can make on the mac. A pc person would either make or download a boot disk and change the cd calls in autoexe.bat and config.sys When switching from mac to pc you should be greeted by a dumb arse dos screen stating the bloody obvious, No system found blah blah. If you dont see this and have the dongle, check the connections arn't arse about. Mac support runs up till 1.6.4 (yawn but needed) which you might like to update to 2.1.7 (anyone else remember the more to come from this mob?) http://web.archive.org/web/20011229162337/http://www.pcsetup2x.com/support/support_FAQ.html http://web.archive.org/web/20030207113524/http://www.pcsetup2x.com/index.html A handy FAQ is http://homepage.mac.com/olivers/DOScard/DOScard.html but the links are shot, might give you some ideas. Well I'm sure someone will agrue the toss on this one. :) Cheers -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Getting Started with a PC Card
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And for everyone else, here we go again. :) Haha, sorry ;) No need to be, its a thread that most of us throw ideas at. This list doesn't generate enough traffic to tell you to check the archieve. ;) Do you have much pc experience or are you a mac user? Worked as a Windoze NT system admin and I do have quite a bit of PC experience. I had used PC cards in the past (Orange Micro) but never one made by Apple and the display adapter was what hurt me (see below). That will do. On my card you need the dongle to be connected to the dos card, the monitor output on the mac and the monitor cable itself. Yes? I don't have one of these. Is there *any* way to use the DOS card without it? If not, where can I find one? I am using an Apple MultiSync 17 display. (Is there a way to move the monitor plug from the graphics card to the PC card? When I tried all I got was a blank screen even when I selected MultiSync 17 from the control panels monitor list.) I'm guessing this is the problem, if you could see the dos screen you would be all over it. I've only owned one apple card and dont know of a good way to over ride it, sorry This is where I ran into problems. I do have a boot disk but since I could not see anything from the DOS card I assumed it was not booting properly when in fact it likely was. With the Orange Micro card I had used, the display was routed back through the bus and into the Mac's internal display either through a window or full screen and I was expecting the same from the Apple card. Bit hard to mistake the clunking of a mac floppy trying to do dos. You might try the key options for ejecting cds and floppies while on the dos side just to be sure everything is doing as it should If I can find a way to see the activity on the PC card (and if the card will boot from a DOS disk in the floppy drive) then I should be all set. Again, I didn't realize until just a few moments ago that I needed a display adapter. I think the dongle is your main problem, I hope someone else will suggest a way around it, worst comes to worst I'm sure someone will give you a pinout to hack yourself one or a better solution? Good luck with the plugs if thats the case And I am glad to see a webarchive of that site, I just noticed that the links were dead. The links are dead? I just download bot the .bin and .hqx files, I do test links before posting something this important. ;) The needed serial number is at the end of the second link ( thanks Lou Thanks! Thanks for the traffic Matt, there's some good folks here, with luck someone will suggest a few options my groggy gray matter missed. Cheers and good luck. Darren -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Something Wrong ...
Brian Futrell wrote: It WOULD NOT work while plugged into the PC Card - it would only work if I booted the Mac with it plugged into internal video or my video card. It is an Apple MultiSync 17 and so far has worked flawlessly. I don't know if something is wrong withthe cable, the card or the drivers. Any suggestions? Thanks a lot! Matt The cable for the PCI card should only have 3 connectors on it - to Mac video, to card, and to Monitor. The Joystick port is built into the card. Brian Futrell I may well be wrong but I think that depends on the card. Sorry I was doing a major update to the home network and MBP, if Mugsie's image fails drop me a line Matt. As Gregg has said, the winSE boot disk is handy for emulator, sadly not very helpful without a bit of editing on a pc-card. Easy to edit though. Well got to find the cost of posting a large box to the states, cheers -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Something Wrong ...
MUGWump wrote: If it fails, I hope he lets *me* know, too! I'll want to make sure I sent him the right file. As best as I could tell, it's the same one I worked up and sent to Lou Hailey back in May that cured his problem. It's got the extra utilities and drivers for the PC compatibility card all set up nice and neat. Lou, you haven't weighed in on this one. You still around and do you still have the disk that worked? Hi Mugsie. I'm still waiting for the same image from you. ;) Actually I dont think Lou ever told the list if it worked, not that I doubt you Mike. Actually you hardly ever hear anything after sending megabytes of stuff to different listers here, either on or off list. Thats a hint folks. Adding the cdrom.sys and editing the autoexe and config.sys is rather basic, hell even I can do it, any further utilities are installed from disk 2 of 1.6.4 and again with 2.0.7. Cheers -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
OMG, what did I buy?
Whats big, old, has only twin 64bit cpu's (its only a mid range model) a couple of fully populated scsi buses, 32x72 pin slots for ram and was made in early '94'? Best I put it as 1994 for the pure mac users. Well lots of crappy old stuff I guess but this particular one is a alphaserver DEC2000 4/200 which I bid on because I like the case, as I'm the only bidder ;) So finally my question: can I get either winNT4-alpha, Digital(True?)-UNIX or OpenVMS to share files with old macs via appletalk, netatalk like? Maybe a version of Basilisk works on alpha? Linux I can handle but the operating systems above are unknown to me, well NT4 looks a lot like win95-early 98 to me. I know there are other ways to get around this problem but I like netatalk/appletalk before using these. Well, something else to play with for good or bad? Anyone else play with these crusty and quick old buggers? Been a while between posts folks, for the internet available record, Mugzy boot disk for pc cards thats extracted on a mac works well !!! :) so does mine. ;) ask Mugzy first. Cheers -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Windows Server 2003 RRAS Macintosh internet access
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone had a similar problem to this? Is there an easy fix w/o 3rd party software? I like using the 2003 server as a NAT gateway so it acts as a firewall for the network. At this time, I have DHCP set up on my Powerbook and an XP machine on the network. I get two IP addresses from my ISP this way, but my entire network is exposed to the internet (or at least the rest of the neighborhood - I have broadband cable access). Due to this fact, I am only using the Powerbook and the XP machine (with ZoneAlarm firewall) right now. Hi Mike. There are a few Mikes here. ;) all good folk. I had the same ip wierdness with the classic OS and a NAT server. A few things to check. 1) I cure all ills by using a staic address on the offending mac which fixed the problem. Currently, if the TPC/IP control panel shows the correct ip range aquired from the DHCP server try the next option 2) is the starting domain name in the TPC/IP control panel, put in whatever works in the XP box. Does winipcfg work under XP? Un-needed when configured with a static address. 3) in the options tab make tpc available at startup rather than the default as needed. Again un-needed using a static address 4) double check the router and dns addresses, add these manually if if they are incorrect. It's early in the morning for me so I've done a worse than usual job of a reply. If your having no problems filesharing then the tpc config just needs a tweak and you should be surfing again. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: sharing printers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi again Darren! I have a similar situation to Gretchen in that I have a Canon printer connected to my XP box that I want to print to from the mac. What little I know of Samba is that it runs in UNIX/Linux environments, right? Is there any hope for me and my OS 9.2.2 mac? Hi Mike. My OSX knowledge is poor I'm afraid but I think Samba is or can be part of OSX? As for the Classic OS I use PcMacLan on the pc which does a great job, bit pricey though. I could help you out a little there but my version isn't XP friendly that I know of. In general I'm not the person to ask about printing, not a strong suite for me as I have very little need. For the household I made the nix box out of old parts and set it to share the printer with macs and pc's using samba and netatalk. For our use and printers we have, this works fine from anywhere in the house. There is also Dave for the Mac which appears to be a port of Samba to the classic OS but I'm very unsure of how you might use it. Old versions can be found on the net easily but 9.2.2 might be a stretch. Please wait for Gregg or another Mike to offer advice amongst others. Try a cross platform printing search on: http://www.google.com/mac.html as this may aim your search easier than using the standard google. I have some links, somewhere. Good luck to you both. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: sharing printers
Gretchen Summers wrote: From what I understand, Samba is a part of OSX.3, but I don't know how it works, or how to configure it. I have followed the printer sharing instuctions on both computers, but have no luck in getting jobs to print back and forth. I'm sure I'm missing something--but I don't know what. Hehe. Do you have access to either SWAT or Webmin as they make configuration rather painless, linux has come a fair way since the premature 2000 boom year. I guess I should ask if you can share files between the two machines? One thing that springs to mind is the 'workgroup' name but that should be covered early in each platforms help files. I'd work from the mac and try to nut out that config first. Share the mac connected printer. for all the differences between linux, pc and mac, sending you my samba config to compare may be worth something as may this site: http://www.zippydesign.com/ying/linux/samba/toc.html which supplies the basics for linux samba config, like me you would have to adapt it to suit your needs, the basic's are sound. They are old. ;) Samba needs very little to work as the site will show and can be configured with a text editor. Naturally I had to allow the needed ports through various firewalls while keeping the net out. ;) this can be a problem and worth a look early on. Samba ports tend to be blocked by default. Now, what else was there? A quick look suggests static address's would be useful, easier to config, I'm not sold on zeroconf or dhcp. Most sites I've found are forum links, yuck. I dont know how useful either of these are to you: http://joelshoemaker.com/computer/mac/wxpfs.html http://homepage.mac.com/william_white/print_to_windows.html The list goes on with a search for 'OSX to pc printer sharing' on mac-google Otherwise I would suggest trying the question on a OSX list. We appear to be a bit lite-on for 10.x users here. I've done my best Mugzie.. Best of luck Gretchen. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: sharing printers
Gretchen Summers wrote: Does turning the firewall completely off count as holes in xp's firewall? Sorry, bad XP joke. If its working one way then it should work the other with your current setup I'm really stumped on this part (printing from Mac to PC). I guess I'm not the only one having difficulty. I am seeing a lot of posts from others who are having problems with this, too. But, unfortunately, there aren't any easy solutions from what I've found. Seems each time they upgrade X they fix one bug and make another, atleast from the forums I'm reading within the links I've posted, it seems there's a work around for most problems. They took a easy OS and turned it into X. :( On the linux box here I would simply add a printer, tell it to search the network for it and if it failed I'd then narrow the search with the target machines ip address, I guess this is more cups or gimp than samba, samba shares the printer on the mac and file shares. Do a double check again, make sure the printer is set for sharing, if the mac side is anything like nix here you would then go to the printer control panel, choose the locate on other machines button and press search. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Cheapest Mac to get P166 speeds
Mark D. Chapman wrote: I am contemplating upgrading my 7500 (running an Apple P166 card). However, I still need to run the odd windows program (mostly network programs that require little horsepower). However, I want to be able to run the Windows programs at least as fast as the P166. My question is what is the cheapest Mac I can buy that will get me about P166 speeds under emulation? Thats a good question? I've only used emulation on G3's and I dont think the performance was that good, the dos cards onboard memory and video give it a fair edge over emulation Alternatively, what is the last tower that I can put my P166 card into? From what little I know, OSX is the biggest limiting factor for new world macs. No drivesr that I've seen have been writen to access the card. The PcSetup crew where going to change that oneday, I'd be happy if they just made some ppc-linux drivers for it. Cant rememeber if I've tried to start pcsetup while using MoL. http://homepage.mac.com/olivers/DOScard/DOScard.html as you will see here they have a small paragraph about what to do if your new mac has no floppy, take out imacs as the card can't fit and your left with a few good model macs that this may apply to. Use the internet archieve to help find dead links on this page. From memory Apple has a bit of info on their site about pc card support. Strange really, imagine what they could do with a dos card now, while M$ sells VPC. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Cheapest Mac to get P166 speeds
Dana Collins wrote: My goal is to slap the card into a beige G3 desktop running at least OS 8.6, with the DOS card running, I hope, WIN 98(se). Is this do-able? The writer of the hack seems to think so, but no one ever explains how to get the OS bumped up from OS 8.1 while retaining the hacked PC DOS extensions. Any thoughts? Experiences to share? First thought is to install Apples 1.6.4 pcsetup and then install pcsetup 2.1.7 otherwise you lose some functionality. PcSetup can be supplied either through one of us or http://web.archive.org/web/20011229162337/http://www.pcsetup2x.com/support/support_FAQ.html http://web.archive.org/web/20011216023334/http://www.pcsetup2x.com/products/products.html#pcsetup211beta http://web.archive.org/web/20020609180626/http://www.pcsetup2x.com/index.html The beige should cope fine, same setup as Mike D as far as I know, your choice of 8.6 is a good one, I'm told 8.5.1 is less buggy on a beige G3 but I think it should be avoilded. For anything over 8.1 use PcSetup 2.1.7 Win98se will be a stretch so max or the dos cards ram. For a floppy boot image ask Mugwump or I can send you something to just install windows, who wonts to do dos rubbish from floppies? -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Cheapest Mac to get P166 speeds
Michael Dawe wrote: Personally, I don't think that the 12 inch 166MHz P card will run in a Beige G3 or later. Why? My theory is the type of RAM used on the DOS card is meaninless to the beige G3, - 5 volt EDO or FPN RAM as opposed to the beige G3's 3 volt PC1xx SDRAM - the electronic componants on the card will most likely also be incompatible. Hi Michael. I wouldn't know for sure either but shouldn't the dos card be self contained to a large extent and basicly ignored by the host system. The *other* 12 inch PR 166 card pulled from a 4400/200, 7220/200 only, can be made to work apparently, because the RAM [and cards] voltage is the same, and by using the I Wish I Were... extension hack... Did you notice that the 12 inch 166P also works in a 4400/7220 as does the 12 inch 166 performance rated PR which was made for the 4400/7220. Also, although there's a lot of info on-line regarding these DOS cards, there seems to be a great lack of any info about them being used in beige G3s [only a few references to the 12 inch PR 166 card hack. - I could be totally wrong of course, and am happy to be told so... Just a hunch it can't be done, or it's at least not a straight forward procedure, is all. There are users that have successfully installed their pc cards in Beige G3's, but you cant install them Blue and White G3's (something about power consumption)... just found it interesting since the beige wasn't supplied with the greatest of PSU's. Apple says the 100mhz cards are unsupported on Beige G3 while people report the 166 card working if you use a floppy driver (I'd guess that means extension) on a floppyless BW http://www.network54.com/Forum/30406?it=0 has quite a bit of info about Dos support and goes back a fair way. You probably have used the link Dana supplied and tried the Mac Dos Card Link which takes you to the same page or the FAQ link which is the same one I flog to death here OTOH, the DOS cards seem to work contentedly with the Macs they were intended to be used in, which have since been upgraded with 3rd party G3/G4 cards. I guess it has a lot to do with the electronics on the mobo, which the DOS cards [and G3/4 upgrade cards] need to be compatible with. No trouble at all with the cpu upgrade daughter cards. I can vouch for that. There's no problem running these cards under MacOS 8.6 and running Win 98, more RAM on the DOS card the better. Unfortunately Windows 95 runs noticeably faster than Win 98 on this card IMO. Even so, it still beats Virtual PC, speed wise. Eats VPC but then so does softwindows depending on the app The only hiccup that I've struck with upgrading beyond MacOS 8.1 and these DOS cards is the incompatibility between the PC Setup 1.6.4 software and Open Transport. 2x. I know that PC Setup 2.1.7f solves that issue, but I've been reluctant to install it because of having to install it over 1.6.4 - maybe I'll come around one day :) My work-around has been to uninstall OT 2x and replace it with OT 1.1.2, which seems to work fine. I wouldn't recommend that anyone does this, if it's their only Mac. -I haven't noticed any issues so far, is all. 1.6.4 only supports up to OS8.1 2.1.7 replaces 1.6.4 with only a couple of files left from 1.6.4 in the macs system folder, I think these where the PC-Clipboard and Print Spooler, something like that anyway. Otherwise its a full replacement and nothing else from 1.6.4 is needed. I'm lucky to have never tried the versions between 1.6.4 and 2.1.7 as they seemed to have had some bugs The PC side is easy and its not neccarsary to update, you can just leave 1.6.4. If you have a OS8 cd you might upgrade your OT to 1.1.3. It's a interesting approach as I would have been more worried about OT than PcSetup. Good to know it works. Thanks for the link Dana and confirmation that its up Mike, it wasn't earlier this morning. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Cheapest Mac to get P166 speeds
Michael Dawe wrote: Personally, I don't think that the 12 inch 166MHz P card will run in a Beige G3 or later. Why? My theory is the type of RAM used on the DOS card is meaninless to the beige G3, - 5 volt EDO or FPN RAM as opposed to the beige G3's 3 volt PC1xx SDRAM - the electronic componants on the card will most likely also be incompatible. I wouldn't know for sure either but shouldn't the dos card be self contained to a large extent and basicly ignored by the host system. You're probably right, have been trying to do a bit more research and have found a few references to the DOS card working in G3's and G4's including b/w and later. Most references were about problems they were having though - but some were saying they run fine... There may only be one way for me to find out for sure, I guess :) None [I've read so far] have been detailed enough, it would be nice to find something more indepth along these lines at http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/ or similar. Hi Mic, I hope Mic's ok, dont wont to confuse anyone. ;) More or less the same result from the search I did. A bit of info about problems with 1.6.4 and 8.6, a couple of lines about the 100mhz card which was more confusing than helpful and a few quote from folks who have their 166mhz card install and running in a BW with the only tip apart from using 2.1.7 being the floppy driver. I guess the card has a preset boot order with no option to disable or bypass the non existant floppy drive. The *other* 12 inch PR 166 card pulled from a 4400/200, 7220/200 only, can be made to work apparently, because the RAM [and cards] voltage is the same, and by using the I Wish I Were... extension hack... Did you notice that the 12 inch 166P also works in a 4400/7220 as does the 12 inch 166 performance rated PR which was made for the 4400/7220. Yes, but not the reverse. - I also saw the warning messages from Apple about not trying cards designed specifically for the 4400/7220 in *any* other Mac Even when used as aboat anchor these are pretty poor excuses. If I had the choice of the pr or p to try then it would be the p for sure. Sounds like a fair warning unless you feel there is enough info to consider the wish you where here hack. I'd keep the PR for my 7220 so I could run something decent on it. Of minor interest, the 7220 is maxed out at 96mb while I imagine the dos card will go to 128mb, makes you wonder. There are users that have successfully installed their pc cards in Beige G3's, but you cant install them Blue and White G3's (something about power consumption)... just found it interesting since the beige wasn't supplied with the greatest of PSU's. I think you know my views on beige G3 PSU's :) Indeed, the 7220 of PSU's, it makes you wonder yet again what the hell the bean counters were thinking. Apple says the 100mhz cards are unsupported on Beige G3 while people report the 166 card working if you use a floppy driver (I'd guess that means extension) on a floppyless BW http://www.network54.com/Forum/30406?it=0 has quite a bit of info about Dos support and goes back a fair way. Thanks for that link, I'd been there before rummaging around but had forgotten about it. This is about the only source I've seen in regards to these cards working in G3/G4s but the info is lacking. Agreed. For a Dos Card forum there is not much more than snippets of info, still if the email addresses are there, why not ask? ;) If you have a OS8 cd you might upgrade your OT to 1.1.3. It's a interesting approach as I would have been more worried about OT than PcSetup. Good to know it works. That's a good idea, and may try it yet. OT 1.1.1/1.1.2 was easy as it's an independent install from an OS install, although the OT 1.1.2 I have needs to be installed over 1.1.1 first, there may be a full installer out there, I haven't really looked. 1.6mb of the 8.0 cd, /Software Installers/Open Transport-PPP. I wouldn't know if its worth the trouble if the other is working until you install something that checks for a OT version 2.x and you'd still be in trouble with 1.1.3 Cheers, One of the [other] Mikes :) I wouldn't get that confused, Michael. ;) -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: sharing printers
Gretchen Summers wrote: I never was able to print a test page directly from the JetDirect. The only way I could print a test page was from the PC. I do have the IP address from that. I think I am going to bag this whole idea for the time being. I have spent so much time trying to get it to work, it's not even funny. I am considering setting up the Canon with the iMac since I know I can print jobs from the PC to printers attached to my Mac. I still have a space issue, but that seems like the simplest solution for printing to both printers from both computers. That may be a good option and one that should have been tried earlier since it works one way without the jet thingy. Telnet, how cute. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Direct download link for OS 9.1 update?
Not what your after exactly ftp://ftp.ucalgary.ca/pub/micros/mac/system/Mac_OS_9.1_Update/ make go use of the download manager and not worry about the download stopping. Closest I could find to the states I'm afraid, possibly the right version? Do they have a seperate Canadian version? I'll have another look around. Cheers -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Direct download link for OS 9.1 update?
Gregg Eshelman wrote: --- Darren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ftp://ftp.ucalgary.ca/pub/micros/mac/system/Mac_OS_9.1_Update/ That'll do nicely. Canada and the USA use the English North American Mac OS and System versions. I wasn't sure if the Candains would have the same version or a different version as we do here, they don't mix and match well. I found nothing in the states while several european sites have drop it. Good to see a parted download for modem users. Hopefully the download accelerator worked well on the ftp site and resume was also available. Speed was acceptable from here so should have been good at your end. cheers -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: A Workaround for Gretchen's Printing Problem
Gretchen Summers wrote: I did check the information that came with the Canon, and their website. I agree with you, Darren, good printer, not so good support. I even checked with the printer guy where I bought the printer, but he's not all that technically oriented. I've only had this printer for a couple of months. I think I'll just let it go for awhile. Maybe someone will come up with some gimp drivers for it eventually. Darren didn't write that, Gregg did and I agree with you both. I searched a couple of weeks back but found nothing of interest. Canon would have a support email address which may be the best option. Does OS X have a foomatic option, printer driver which I haven't used under nix, well I think it is. ;) A static adressing the machine sharing the printer may be a idea, I find it makes it easy to find services from other machines with don't automagicly appear where they should. Dave by Thursby is a option but should be all but covered by Samba in OS X. Can you share files / folders without problems each way? -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Printing to File In OSX
Gretchen Summers wrote: It worked just as well with the postscript process. Thanks for the suggestion, Mike. You can share files and folders or do you copy this to removable media? -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Yet another Windows/Mac printing problem!
Michael Clarke wrote: Hi all, I have a Win 2003 server with file and print svc for Macintosh installed. I have an HP LaserJet 5MP connected to the LPT1 port. I cannot figure out how to get this printer to use AppleTalk. I've tried creating new port on the existing printer, and starting from scratch and selecting AppleTalk Printing Device as the port... all to no avail. I just keep getting the message that no AppleTalk devices can be located. What am I missing here? The HP has Postscript language, Level 2, built-in, so that shouldn¹t be an issue. The file sharing part works fine. My Mac is a Wallstreet running OS 9.2.2, but that¹s not even an issue yet, because I can¹t get the LaserJet to magically turn into an AppleTalk print device! Hi Not much help here I'm afraid. I only have NT4 but I will hook a printer up to it using Services for mac if no better answer comes your way. Are you using the Laserwriter 8 extension or similar? Sorry this may not be helpful, my knowledge of printers is limited to the few I have. In this case I can setup a printer server using Pcmaclan and ghostscript so I can use share the HP 850c Deskjet. I imagine any other would be the same under Win2k3. If the HP 850 is something like what you have I will try to share it from the Alpha (x8 the HDD space and happily running SFM under NT4, thanks for the tip Gregg!) which still has the noisiest and largest cooling fan I have ever found. The one in the bathroom looks like it was made for the job. ;) with lights!! Ghostscript is yet another way to share printers to the classic macOS and I imagine the new world MacOS? Who knows? As you can share files I'd guess you are half way there. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Yet another Windows/Mac printing problem!
Michael Clarke wrote: Hi Darren, Thanks for your response! I've decided to take a different route. I found an old Lexmark external print server (Marknet Pro 1), that's been sitting in a cabinet for the last 5 years. I know that was the recommended solution for Gretchen already, but I thought that was just an OS X TCP/IP solution. This Lexmark supports both AppleTalk and TCP/IP, so I can use it with Windows and Mac OS 9.2.2. It was simple and (relatively) quick to set up. I couldn't believe it! Thanks? waste of bandwidth if you ask me. ;) Glad you already had a option. Heaps of info for the Lexmark around as well, seems only the Marknet pro 3 does appletalk according to this page: http://www.argecy.com/4033.html#MarkNet%20Pro Which isn't really a problem since your using tcp? How have you set it up? a static address or it all works fine in with a dhcp setup? Interesting thing about appletalk is it will go places badly configured tcp wont and also through half rate firewalls. ;) I'll stick to my nix box for use as a print-server. I've almost made enough mistakes to know what I'm doing. File and printer sharing is a administrators job, with that in mind simple and (relatively) quick is good enough for mine. Gretchen should only need tcp, once filesharing is working both ways the printer (atleast one) will follow, samba only requires a few ports open accross the lan to do both. These ports are blocked by default by most nix and need to be opened manually, I'd guess OS X does a better job of this but I dont have it to try. The router may also play a part in the mix, another job handled by the nix box. Cheers -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: New Disk Image Files
Brian Futrell wrote: I've been trying to create a new drive image file for use with my PC Compatibility Card. I've tried to create one while initializing it. DOS can't see the drive. I then tried to make one without initializing the drive. DOS will format it, but only 255MB out of 1024MB. I'm using PCSetup 2.1.7 on a modified 7200 case/7300 CD-ROM and case badge/8500 logic board. :) It is running 9.1 with 160MB RAM, a 604/180mhz processor, 2 x 1GB SCSI drives and an external Seagate 9GB 68-pin SCSI with a 68-50 pin adapter. Any suggestions? I'm thinking of reverting to PC Setup 1.6.4 - I have no interest in running Windows on it at the moment. Use one of the emulators to make the dos disk image, mount it as D: in the emulator to check it. Config the pc card to use it as C: and boot/fdisk/format the image from a floppy. Just a suggestion to try. If it doesn't work I'd suggest replacing pcsetup, once more with 2.1.7 before you go back to 1.6.4 which is not really on the cards with 9.1 anywho. What card are you running and whats the boot disk windoze version? -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
intel ppc emulation
Hi A fellow lister put me on to SheepShaver, a emulator by the folks behind Basilisk II, mainly for the BeOS platform and linux-ppc, Darwin, blah blah, ect. Linux-intel rpms or a csv connection can be found to make/install on i386 machines. So far I've installed ppc versions of 7.6.1 and 8.0 and have booted the 8.5 and 9.0.4 cd's, rom errors where my biggest problem so far. The Mac OS ROM found on the 8.5 or the update rom found on software update site do not work with the i386 linux port. ObjectLibSupport constantly appearing when the 8.5-cd mac os rom was used. Using the rom-grabber from Basilisk on a beige mac produced a dodgy rom image (it was never built for ppc's). The tool, CopyROM worked well enough to get to a full desktop, unstable but workable. Speed is a little slower than B2, not much. I would guess a alpha win32.exe is out there somewhere, my Japanesse is not real good. ;) Ok, its a little off topic but not much, hopefully we will soon have a ppc emulator for win32 as good as BII. I'm still to try the 8.5 cd with the new rom, hopefully I can update the 8.0 hardfile install with it without major problems but the brain dead mac install makes this harder than it needs to be. Does anyone know of the progress of microcodes G3 pci card? http://www.microcode-solutions.com/ doesn't say much as usual. I hope the software version will include networking this time. A long time coming, even the Amiga-one has been around for a while now. I'm hoping to try win4lin using exodus on a quadra or 7300, it will be a interesting comparision against the macs pc emulators if it works. A 10/100 nic in the mac would be best for this but something I don't have in the target macs. Win4lin is user based and should run fine through xterm using Exodus, I hope. :) If your interested in SheepShaver (ShapeShifter, may *your* god bless them) you might try http://www.emaculation.com/sheepshaver.php and use the links there. The site isn't updated properly and is geared towards PowerPC usage, a couple of points you should keep in mind regardless of platform. Cheers -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: intel ppc emulation
Michael Dawe wrote: On 1 Mar 2004 at 12:36, Darren wrote: A fellow lister put me on to SheepShaver, a emulator by the folks behind Basilisk II Moi perhaps? ;) The B2 JIT contribution by Gwenole Beauchesne IIRC. SheepShaver is now vers. 2.2 as of last Wednesday. The official SheepShaver site is: http://www.uni-mainz.de/~bauec002/SheepShaver.html Hi Mike Who else would put me on to such a project of frustration? Version 2.2.10 includes the ethernet hack for sheepnet, haven't got that far yet. Not found in 2.2.8 and below Using the rom-grabber from Basilisk on a beige mac produced a dodgy rom image (it was never built for ppc's). The tool, CopyROM worked well enough to get to a full desktop, unstable but workable. Speed is a little slower than B2, not much. This is something I haven't tried [as yet]. How about the [Classic Mac] software ROM files for iMacs? Any use? I see them on iMac install/boot CD's. Or are they an extra, and still require the ROM in hardware? I've tried the rom files from the 8.5 and 9.0 install cd's. The emulation docs state a 4mb rom file is required, the files from these two cd's are 1.8mb as is the rom update 1.6 found on version tracker or cnet. When these files are used in sheepshaver both cd's will boot, almost to desktop but the emulation will stop as a ObjectLibSupport error is displayed with a reboot button. The 7300 refuses to load a imac install cd but will load the rescue cd which does have a 4mb rom file, 9.0.4 though. If you would be kind enough to send me a 4mb 8.5 file I'd be grateful or one off a native G3. ;) My gut feeling is SheepShaver will work better on PPC Linux. Encouraging to see you getting this far all the same :) I'll try it on mdk-ppc but I've already got a happily working MoL install, it does suggest trying MoL's rom may work. MoL requires more direct access to the cpu and will not be ported to doze. The 7300's rom image will go as far as selecting the disk to install 8.5 onto before the emulation freezes. When using B2's hardfile its nice to get message telling me I'd be better off using ppc versions of ATM and one other. Ok, its a little off topic but not much, hopefully we will soon have a ppc emulator for win32 as good as BII. SheepShaver is rather unstable on my system. My feeling is the rom file plays a major part in this, with the right file some of the instability might settle down. I'll play with it a bit and dig through the forums, if I manage to boot a 8.5 hardfile I'll let you know. In summary it half works, its early days yet so its something to watch. Cheers -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: HP ScanJet 4p Mac drivers?
Gregg Eshelman wrote: HP doesn't have Macintosh drivers for their ScanJet 4p on their website, they do have a Macintosh _manual_ in Acrobat format, and they have Windows drivers for 95 through XP. Anyone know where I can dig up the last release of the Mac drivers? http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/taskPageSelect.jhtml?reg=plc=lc=encc=usprodId=sj4pmcpagetype=setupdocparent=setup it would seem you would use HP Deskscan II image Scanning software for macintosh? http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/document.jhtml?reg=plc=lc=encc=usprodId=sj4pmcdocName=bpm15100cat=setup#P9_834 file named SJ185EN.HQX for Deskscan and SJ150EN.HQX ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/scanners/software/ I hope that helps, the hp links may not work but the ftp site has been tested -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: SheepShaver remixed
Gregg Eshelman wrote: OK, planning on becoming the new guy on the Win32 port of Basilisk II to catch it up with everything added since Lauri Pesonen quit on it? ;) Me? Nah. Someone will pickup SheepShaver for Win32, especially now it does work under a few linux distros. http://www.emaculation.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=738 the first post shows how close the development (also providing a simple walk through to complile for linux) between the two is. I'll have to use B2's Sheepnet for ethernet so it will need to be remade to be accessible to both programs. Speed is almost the same as basilisk under OS8, the memory and cpu loads are rather impressive so I figure there's room for improvememnt. It would be interesting to see a comparision on a quicker pc, I'm still at 1ghz. :( It does work using Exodus on a C650, the C650's on board nic is a little overtaxed for the job. Still its nice to see OS8.5 in a aqua window on a 68k mac running 7.5. ;) I'd probably use the same solution to get it to a windows pc if the boxes I have to use to serve from were quicker. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Drivers for Hammer Storage PCI Jackhammer?
Gregg Eshelman wrote: So far, the only place I've found links to download drivers for the StreamLogic/Hammerstorage PCI Ultra SCSI Jackhammer is through the Web Archive at http://www.archive.org But the only complete ones they appear to have are for the older NuBus Jackhammer and Pre-OS9 for the PCI version. http://www.rorke.com/hammer/ any good? I see what you mean about the file on the net archive, even with broadband I had to setup 3 downloads of the same file at the same time before the file would complete. The speed and reliablity of the internet archieve drops each year as does the content. Glad you found the drivers elsewhere, thanks for the link. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
sheepshaver - more
Very short. To fix errors in a previous post. Since compiling from the cvs on my machine sheepshaver now accepts both the rom image from the 7300 (4mb) and also the image found on the OS8.5 install cd (1.8mb) and Apples rom update found at apple or cnet versiontracker ect. Of the lot the 8.5 file works fastest, there's little difference! The biggest difference between the working roms is the happy mac icon on startup, the 8.5 and update roms display the blue screened icon while the 7300 rom shows the old white happy mac which we are all happy to see. :) You will quickly see if the precompiled rpm will work or not. If sheepshaver boots from a cd and you see a cross through the applescript icon during the startup parade then you will most likely need to compile it yourself to suit your machine which is simple enough. The fail list includes the rom image found on the 9.04(3.3mb) install cd which fails outright and a Biege G3(4mb) which goes as far as checking the floppy, then its just the mac black screen of death, possibly confused by scsi as we dont make grey. Next todo is the ethernet, which will be the last of sheepshaver for linux. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mac OS support for NuBus 10/100 NIC?
Gregg Eshelman wrote: I picked up a new in the box Asante 10/100 NuBus network card recently. Any idea if it'll work with Mac OS 9.1? Does the Apple Ethernet NB extention support 100 megabit cards? Driver from Asante is http://www.asante.com/downloads/NUBUS_1-0_DR.sea.hqx http://www.asante.com/downloads/NUBUS_IG.pdf Enjoy. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mac OS support for NuBus 10/100 NIC?
Gregg Eshelman wrote: Doesn't answer a single question I asked. I have the install guide, the PDF is identical. I already downloaded that driver and it's identical to what came with the card. Asante produced these cards then did absolutely ZERO further development. So I'll ask again. Does Apple's Ethernet NB extention in Mac OS 9.1 support any 10/100 NuBus NICs or not? Well shiet, sorry for trying. There's zero mention of you having a driver disk in the box and no mention of you having any version of the driver or any sort of documentation. Heck, there's no mention of you trying the Asante driver at all or why its no good. Why dont you try a search of apples tech notes about Apples NB ethernet extention if the makers driver does nothing for you. I'd imagine you'd have more luck with a driver from Asante. Its the only nubus card they made, no use for a pc at all now why didn't Asante pay a few folk good money to update drivers for a multiple of point upgrades so nubus owners could be supported all the way to OS10.4? Go figure. Hey, if I can find a link, you should have no problems at all, right? You might try the first mac list (whatever its called) where someone else is trying the same thing with the same mac. In future I'll check for your cross posts before wasting my time looking for links based on the small about of info you provide. Can't imagine why anyone would bother going past 8.6 on a 601 nubus mac/clone (unless I bought the G3 card for $75 aud even then they cant hold enough ram, its 72 pinn and since it sucks mem for the video from the mobo it cant be interleaved unless its a real mac which has its own vram but still cant interleave the mobo ram). Why mention interleaving at all? Well its the best way to get something that feels like speed out of any biege mac and even then you must have shit loads. Now to sit back and watch the flood of more useful comments come in. Please excuse me for not having your mac and having sweet fa info to work with! -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Reinstalling Win98 on a P166 card
Mark D. Chapman wrote: Hi Folks, Just an update. I tried the registry rebuild recommended here. Unfortunately, all that did was crash the PC. So I gave up and made a new drive container. The drive container started up fine. DOS and Win98 installed with no problems (except taking a huge amount of time). Good so far. You'd have been better off cleaning the rubbish out with a windows utility or atleast backdating the reg before rebuilding. Even after the rebuild crashes you still should have been able to backdate the reg to a time before the attempt. A reinstall is best if you have nothing of value otherwise its generally repairable. Unfortunately, my 64 MB memory card now appears to be kaput (when I put it into the 7500 by itself I get the breaking glass sound) and my sound does not work. Ah well, I guess I will run on 16 MB for a while. I dont think the card is as fussy as a mac which is why the card will boot with a dodgy simm. Win98 on 16mb isn't any fun, have you tried Winlite? You might find it useful regardless of the amount of ram, Win95 explorer and 98 functions. Anywho the ram problem explains the part of you previous post which I couldn't figure. If I put a 128 MB card in the P166 will it work? Will it cause any problems? GURU says no!, FPM only but 72mb (8 onboard or 80 with 16) is the max supported. Brian is the only person to try 128mb I think. I'd be interested since the ram is dirt cheap. http://homepage.mac.com/olivers/DOScard/DOScard.html Sadly the link Dana posted earlier is down again. Once your up to speed install some utility to keep the rubbish down. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: sharing printers
Brian Futrell wrote: Hmm I'm at a loss for words on this one. I tried editing the file without running sudo, and I got the message 'can not open the file for writing'. I've also tried it with sudo to allow access to the file, and it saves properly then. Not having OS X.x I've not added to the thread. My question: do you have a root account? I've followed the thread but fail to see how sudo would work without a root login, does the admin login cover this? sorry if I'm looking through linux eyes. Gretchen is possibly having permission problems? file not found is a common error when a user tries to access a admin file or a file which is not included in their group access. Am I mistaken in thinking OSX does not install a root account by default? Cheers -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: sharing printers
Gretchen Summers wrote: On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 17:41:29 +1000, Darren wrote: Not having OS X.x I've not added to the thread. My question: do you have a root account? I've followed the thread but fail to see how sudo would work without a root login, does the admin login cover this? sorry if I'm looking through linux eyes. Gretchen is possibly having permission problems? file not found is a common error when a user tries to access a admin file or a file which is not included in their group access. Am I mistaken in thinking OSX does not install a root account by default? I do not fully understand all you are saying, but I do know that I have access in an adminstrative capacity. I ented my p/w, and had no trouble with that. My permissions should not be an issue, I repair them after every new software installation. Hi Gretchen. The question was aimed at Brian and as I noted I do not have OSX so I'm working second hand, so to speak and could well be very wrong. It was my understanding that the root account is not installed by default as some kind of security feature. If everything worked properly a normal user doesn't need it. The admin account has many rights, more than a average user and is used to configure the system, it doesn't have full access rights to everything but is a middle ground between the normal user account and a root account. Root *owns* the system, and all files therefore has controlling permissions, no root account and you will not be able to access files with higher permissions than admin. Sudo defaults to admin permissions for a single task, not high enough permissions to do the task you require. http://macosx.org/software/utilities/rootpass.html give a quick run down. My feeling is that Brian has root enabled where you do not which would explain the results you recieve compared to him. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: sharing printers
Brian Futrell wrote: On Sunday, March 28, 2004, at 09:50 PM, Darren wrote: Brian Futrell wrote: I don't have a root account either. There is two user account on this G3 AIO: the default has admin capabilities, and the other one is a test account to see what can be done with a standard account. I do have some other programs not normally installed by most OS X users, like Complete MySQL, Complete PHP, and Complete Apache2. Other than those and MacJanitor, there isn't too much software on this Mac. Thanks for the reply. I dont understand it then, Gretchen gets a standard error message when trying to edit a file in /etc. File not found is pretty standard when a user lacking permission tries to access a root owned system file. (/etc is root owned in linux and unix, maybe admin owned in X?) She gets the message when trying to save the file. She can open the file and edit it ok, but the error appears when the file name appears to save the file to. No write permission. If she is using sudo as in the instructions, she should have access, failing that enable and then disable root (when finished) which will guarentee sudo will work. http://www.osxfaq.com/Tutorials/Root_User_Creation/index.ws Greater access without to much fuss. I tried editing the file without running sudo, and I got the message 'can not open the file for writing'. I've also tried it with sudo to allow access to the file, and it saves properly then. Going by what you wrote above, you must have tried editing from the standard account which somehow allowed you to read but would have to sudo to save - odd. If you where in the admin account you should be able to read and I'd imagine write, if sudo was needed it would mean you have a root account. Root being the only thing you could sudo to? I actually edited with the admin account. I don't use the test account much. Sudo was required before pico in order to save the file. I find this odd, but it would depend on the additions to the admin account. Possibly the reason you can and Gretchen can't. I'd suggest Gretchen follows the instructions for enabling the root account and therefore bumping sudo from admin to root access. A google.mac search for root account for reference to double check the ease of enable and disable this account. From the link above you should be able to either hide the root login or disable root login for all but sudo ect. This would be a prefered way compared to changing the admins account permissions which could then become as dangerous as a root login to a less than experienced user, without apples default limits. Sudo allows access for something like 5 to 15 minutes on X (the exact amount of time eludes me). But its still only for a single task. Which is why sudo must be entered for each use of pico. http://www.osxfaq.com/man/8/sudo.ws Thanks Brian, linux and OSX seem to be similar at this level, I'm very inexperienced at granting permissions so I'm just bouncing ideas. Cheers -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 8.6 for win32, the back way
Gregg Eshelman wrote: --- Darren wrote I have a pc question. How do I get a 4.3gb drive to functuion under win 95? Do I just partition it or am I better off installing 98. If you have original 95 (or 95a with the service pack) you're limited to 2gig partitions with FAT16. I'd say thats whats installed. Windows 95 OSR2 (OEM Service Release 2) also known as 95b, 95B or 95c depending on the version of Internet Explorer included, has the ability to use FAT32. Any Windows 95 CD-ROM with a 1996 or 1997 copyright date is OSR2. Any Windows 95 CD-ROM with a 1995 copyright date is the original or 95a version. This is what I have. The bit I dont get is if I can update from 95a to 95b. Update rather than nuke and pave as I can't replace his installed programs. Can I boot from the 95b cd, make the partition, copy the contents from the old drive and then update the 95a to 95b by running setup so when booted from the hdd win 95 will boot on a 2gb partition? FAT32 is roughly equivalent to HFS+. The underlying structure is so close that a FAT32 formatted volume only needs Erased to convert to HFS+ on MacOS 9.1 and up. (I've not tested to see if 8.1 to 8.6 can support FAT32.) I've found that may work to get some SCSI drives going on a Mac. First FDISK and format as FAT32 on a PC then connect to the Mac with PC Exchange (File Exchange for 8.5 and up) installed and set to load drivers for PC volumes. If the FAT32 drive will mount you should be able to just use the Erase menu item to make it HFS+. Also should work for going from FAT16 to HFS standard. When it works it's an easy backdoor to using drives Apple's formatter won't touch. A different approach. :) nuking the drive and a hacked apple partition utility usaully works for me but I've done far less of these, thanks. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 8.6 for win32, the back way
Thanks Gregg, I'll give that lot a go. I was going to just xcopy C:\*.* D:\ /c/h/e/k/r which hasn't let me down yet, rather than just drag and drop. This will do the same thing? http://pcrdist.cit.cornell.edu/A_fully_automated_OSR2_install.htm http://www.csonline.net/bpaddock/cvtfat32/win95b.htm - method 1 was my first thought. http://www.mdgx.com/newtip.htm looks like a interesting page for a dull weekend. Right after getting sheepshaver up in a window on a win9x desktop. ;) Cheers -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: I want to write an ebook
Kim wrote: I want to write an ebook. I can use Appleworks to save into a pdf. but isn't there more to ebooks than that? I'd like to be able to link my email and websites inside the ebook with hidden links...is that possible? Is there a free tutorial that would tell me how to put together an ebook? All of mine are either pdf (better) or rtf which is ok, pdf allows for more options including those you have asked for. I'd suggest a google search about how to put one together, most important is to make it x-platform so all can enjoy. Cheers -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: I want to write an ebook
Darren wrote: All of mine are either pdf (better) or rtf which is ok, pdf allows for more options including those you have asked for. I'd suggest a google search about how to put one together, most important is to make it x-platform so all can enjoy. I forgot html of course. doh. http://bookshelf.sleepnet.net/files/ for a few examples of different formats, maybe even a spot of geek reading. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 8.6 for win32, the back way
Gregg Eshelman wrote: snipped, saved, thank you Chack back with me if it says it can't upgrade. :) I haven't done a 95 any version install in quite a while! From a floppy boot Rename win.com (kills the *not able to upgrade* rubbish) Start setup Use a OEM # Choose windows rather than the offered windows.000 folder. Reboot, wait, force quit, wait for disk scan (I removed the win95 cd as instructed which caused the force quit), watch as it half configures itself, reboot, do some more little configs, reboot, Desktop! :) Copy everthing to the new drive, xcopy C:\*.* D:\ /c/h/e/k/r, shutdown and reconfig the hdd's. Desktop! Lost the sound card drivers, gone. After choosing not to upgrade any conflicting *newer* file during the update I had to remove and reinstall tcp from my network devices, I could dial up but had no web. The Startup group files required retargeting from D:\ once the old drive, now the slave, was formatted in win32. Apart from the IE icons reverting to version 3 everthing else is running very well. The old boy was very happy going from 8mb ram, 1.2gb drive (old seagate) and 95a/IE3 to 64mb, 4.3gb fujitsu + the cleaned and reformatted seagate, 95b/IE5.5. I was rather impressed with the difference. I've offered to replace the mobo ect but he hasn't used computer since punch cards and thinks its plenty fast for his use. :) The lot cost $60 or us$43. Thanks for the replies, I hope the thread helps someone else revive a doorstop for a old newbie or aids you upgrading your hardfiles from win16. Heres a site I leached, hard to read but may be of use to we who emulate win3.x. http://www.oldos.org/files/driverbootdisk.php and others? Cheers -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
8.6 for win32, the back way
http://www.emaculation.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=917sid=7922399880029ff587ec067e1bc156c3 Haven't tried, something for the week end. I have a pc question. How do I get a 4.3gb drive to functuion under win 95? Do I just partition it or am I better off installing 98. On a mac I'd just make a couple of partitions, having no bootdisk handy fdisk would only go to 4xxmb and report the drive full even though windows showed 1.99gb. I'm seeing the dos limit and the fat 16 limit I guess. Can I fdisk and partition the drive on a second machine and then have win95 see and format the partitions? The old pc is a 100mhz P1 so I'm in no hurry to upgrade it to 98, the old 1.2gb drive makes aweful noises and I'd like to swap my elderly friends data over to a faster drive with a little more room but forgot about the filesystem limitations. Any help is gratefully recieved, the old boys only just found the internet and is caning the old drive, amazing the difference between 8mb and 64mb on the same machine. ;) Just purchased a 133mhz 7'dos card for the mac, big upgrade from the 100mhz, well I hope it will allow more than 64mb of on board ram to be installed but for $35au it doesn't really matter. Cheers -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
sheep being shaved
Hi Nice to see everyones machines are running at 100%. SheepShaver on Windows. Sort of. One way is via Cygwin on win95 - xp using the ./SheepShaver you've compiled on the nix box, cheating, well not really. Cygwin is fairly easy to setup, the hard bit is to remember to start the -dm on the linux box and config it so it works the way you'd like. For example, if you start your nix box and it boots to a cli where you then run startx then there's no xdm gdm kdm tdm ect to xdmcp from Cygwin or Exodus to. doh! This gem has been a pain in my side for a while, I hope to have OS8.5 - OS9 running on a quadra via exodus soon. :) The second way uses Colinux for which I use the Gentoo file. Gentoo is very easy to use as it turns out. CoLinux boots to a cli, to use a display manager like xfce you would use a vnc client like VNCviewer. This seems quicker than the X-window of Cygwin which can also be pointed at Colinux. Basicly its nix in a window where you compile sheepshaver and install a vnc server where you connect a vnc viewer to colinux's tap network. Easier than it sounds, the hard bit now is getting a hardfile with 8.5+ across, the xp box I'm using for this has no cd or floppy and as the tap (shared virtual network) has a differing ip address to the rest of my lan it proving to be a challange. Colinux requires W2k or XP. Debian and another flavour are also available for colinux. Note: use topenlarge to expand the gentoo hardfile from 2gb to fit a macos hardfile for sheepshaver and anything else you may install on gentoo. Links available or google for colinux, gentoo, vncviewer and cygwin. All in all it was very easy for a pretty good result so far, still about the same speed as B2 but this way is self contained on the one Windows box. ;) All software mentioned, bar Exodus, is freeware. ;) cheers -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: More: Sub/Unsub nonsense
M D wrote: Hi, my first posting from my new addy :) I Unsubscribed last-night from both the LEM lists I get mail from [Quadlist and Mac-n-DOS]. I had none of the problems unsubscribing that [EMAIL PROTECTED] was experiencing recently - and venting his frustration onto us in here - the most mail this list has seen in recent months I add :) The reasons why I unsubribed and resubscribed are to do with SPAM. I had been using a real address, one that was known only to a few people outside of the LEM list. Lately SPAM to that address has been getting out of hand. So I now have mail from the list go only to a hotmail account, which IMO does a good job of filtering SPAM. I discovered by accident while Googling one day [as one does] more than one reference to list mail on the net. The worst [because it gives full mail addresses to each list posting, to the WWW at large] is MacLaunch itself: http://mail.maclaunch.com/Lists/mac-n-dos/List.html?Sort=2SDir=0Limit=50 My last posting using my personal addy: http://mail.maclaunch.com/Lists/mac-n-dos/Message/1690.html Click on the links above, see if you can find your own posts, and decide whether you need to change addresses or not. All the best, Mike Clueless isn't it? There's new server software coming around 2030 just hang on till then. The mail.maclaunch site doesn't have the same censoring as the list archive, as found at the bottom of the page, why? I doubt anyone actually knows. I've shared in Rogers problem as I've said before, the crappy software used is to blame while the listmom has one line, not my fault little wonder the account I use only for lem-lists is the one bombarded with viruses. Gee, thanks. Lets not mention those stupid bounce messages some of us get forever while others have never seen one let alone 10 per week. Dans last post to this list was 13/9/03, maybe he unsubbed. Quote from second last post on the same date If you reply to the [warning messages], they should go away -- but they may not. We have no idea why these messages are being generated; we have made maclaunch.com aware of the problem. That is all we can do. Note that the list server has been set to reject styled messages and email with attachments, so when responding to warning messages, be sure your response is a plain text email. and And for some reason unknown to us, the Maclaunch mail server will not accept styled email or messages with attachments send to any of the command addresses. You must send plain text email to subscribe, confirm, change mode, etc. Anything else will be rejected by the server. Filters are good. Free email accounts are better. Decent server software, priceless. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Pearpc
Hi folks. Just got OS X running on XP. :) 4 and a half hours for the install and takes a little over 4 minutes to boot. Speed is a little faster than a classic mac running OS7.1 and a bit slower than running Basilisk with OS8.1 installed. Not bad for alpha software. I've also had success flashing a Radeon 7000 64mb video over to mac. The pc version is $20 cheaper than the mac and has twice the ram so why wouldn't you? Only one problem, the newer Radeon drivers replace one of OpenGL's extensions, reinstalling OpenGL fixes this. The problem was no 3D. http://www.appletalk.com.au/forums/index.php?showtopic=352 contains the info I used and the pc-flash kit. A big improvement over the Voodoo3 which will go into a 7220 which I just picked up a dos card for. :) Better video, better OS, I might even hang on to the door stop Cheers -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Pearpc
M D wrote: Darren wrote: Hi folks. Just got OS X running on XP. :) 4 and a half hours for the install and takes a little over 4 minutes to boot. Speed is a little faster than a classic mac running OS7.1 and a bit slower than running Basilisk with OS8.1 installed. Not bad for alpha software. Congratulations on this momentous occasion. You're the first person I have heard of doing this [getting a Desktop]. So wow, if I had a hat I'd be taking it off to you right now. Cheers, Darren. You have been busy :) Thanks Mike, I've been trumped by Dana from the Q-list. She is running it on a Athlon 2600+ at twice the speed under linux. Thanks for putting me on to it, I finally had some time to play. I'll do the linux install and see how it goes via exodus, OSX on a quadra? There wont be any noticable network lag I'm tipping. Pear will get better, I'm running a early P4 board maxed with a 1.8ghz 4x agp with sd and ddr slots so there's lots of hardware room and Altivac emulation wasn't in this so there's software room there as well. I've also had success flashing a Radeon 7000 64mb video over to mac. The pc version is $20 cheaper than the mac and has twice the ram so why wouldn't you? Indeed. $70 AU or $45 US I grabbed a 9200/128mb pci but decided to go with the 7000/64mb, most info I found related to the 32mb card or negitive reports on the 64mb. Apart from the minor OpenGL problem below, I do have a major conflict between a ATI extension and the PCsetup control panel version 2.1.7f The prime suspect is the ATI Mac2tv extension but you know how these things are with a mac. I can run the *full* set minus the PCsetup CP and everything works while it will freeze on startup if its included. The mix of AV monitor software and the 3 outputs on the radeon looks to be the cause. If I nut it out without hacks I'll post it. If you run PC emulators rather than a dos card you should be right at this stage. :( Only one problem, the newer Radeon drivers replace one of OpenGL's extensions, reinstalling OpenGL fixes this. The problem was no 3D. http://www.appletalk.com.au/forums/index.php?showtopic=352 contains the info I used and the pc-flash kit. Re:above A big improvement over the Voodoo3 which will go into a 7220 which I just picked up a dos card for. :) Better video, better OS, I might even hang on to the door stop A good investment for the 7220 too. In the US its the 4400 model and as you have mentioned here before the dos cards for these macs are a bit of a black sheep. Lets see if the cables are packed. By big improvement I mean better 2D and both QuakeGL and Diablo2 are competative and better gamma. :) Haven't tried any others. Linux support also. :) I'd lose the dos card to keep the ATI. Knowing my luck the Powershop card I'd replace it with would also conflict. all good fun. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
none really just bored
http://rainbow.arch.scriptmania.com/rainbow_tv_episode.html To the yanks, sorry it may offend as there is no one getting blown to pieces, for those of us in the colonies its a taste of the old dot. enjoy. Glad to see everyones machines are working without problems. The quadra does OSX via exodus very well, Dana compiled it under linux on a C650, its been a week and I'm still waiting for notice that it boots, I think the vram will kill it but who cares. I'll give it another week. ;) l8r -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 10.3.6 features link
J.M.P.Hissel wrote: Just for fun: I downloaded the Combo 10.3.6 , using a PM9600/350, OS9.1, 576MB RAM, Fast-ADSL Once in IE 5.1.7 and once in iCab Pre 2.98 DL in IE took 12min. 41sec DL in iCab took 3min. 14sec. All the same: Mac, OS, connection, the file (92MB), just the browsers differs. Funny, isn't it?? Shade over 2 minutes on a pc with cable using IE. Peak transfer 638kb/sec. Why would anyone run IE on OSX as a benchmark or be surprised at the result? The last release for BetaX was 5.2.3 which was let loose on an unsuspecting public over *15 months ago* - support has since been dropped for the Mac port. You have Safari embedded like every other NixOS finally, geez that took a while. Which browser renders pages better? Whats wrong with Konqueror (I think you call it Safari) or one of the Mozilla releases? Timing a FTP transfer may make an interesting comparision - just for fun. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 10.3.6 features link
Darren wrote: J.M.P.Hissel wrote: using a PM9600/350, OS9.1, 576MB RAM, From there I blurted out some rubbish about OSX... Bad habbit and I beg your pardon J.M.P. Have you tried Mozilla on the PM9600? I rather like it on a 7300 running OS9.1, mainly for its spam filters as it has better controls than the mac release of Netscape while being 100% compatible. Images are slower to display than IE Given the times you posted I'd say IE has a install problem, not uncommon which is a shame as it was one of the better browers under the classicOS for rendering sites, having said that, my download took over 11 minutes using IE on 9.1 and disconnected once... :( Mozilla downloaded the file in 3 minutes 42 sec. Sustained transfer of 397kb/s so it says. http://www.pure-mac.com/webb.html lists a few different browsers and updates for OSX, Classic and 68k and kinda worth a look. I doubt Wannabe is 380mb. The Mozilla version there is old as we use 1.3.1 which is not a real release so your mileage may vary. Any way I look at it your install of iCab beats my cable. I guess I should try it again. Cheers -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Time to upgrade my VPC?
M D wrote: Have refrained from upgrading from VPC version 2 for so long - if it ain't broke etc etc... After a long period of happy VPC DOS experiences, I came across a program that VPC just cannot run. The original Duke Nukem 3D no less. Duke tries to load but the video refuses to and crashes VPC fairly spectacularly, I then need to get back into the Mac as gracefully as I can :) Duke 3D requires me to disable the sound before I can get it running under windows, I guessed sound blaster, probably wrong, which returns a stack error, killing the sound brings up the game. This same Duke 3D runs quite happily on the Apple PC card in the same machine. G3 266 Mac OS 8.6 - VPC on this Mac runs DOS games like Doom and Quake without a hitch. Duke is to heavy for windows under vpc4, playable but barely under vpc3 running windows. Very playable under dos on vpc3. I dont use vpc4 much, very happy with 3 as you are with 2. I hope to find a voodoo2 card which may bring me back to version 2. ;) Anyone had better luck loading Duke Nukem on VPC? -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: PC cards and networking issues
M D wrote: Is it possible to use 3rd party NICs with Apple DOS cards? I'm using a Kingston PCI 10/100 card in my G3 and the PC compatability software refuses to acknowledge it. Virtual PC on the other hand has no problems with the 10/100. One area VPC has over the DOS card perhaps? Hi again Mike. Sorry to be the only person here willing but unable to help on this one, are you saying that the DEC 21041 ethernet driver with vpc works fine with the Kingston 10/100? Have you loaded the same driver on to the card? Have you finally updated to 2.1.7 of pc-setup? It will be Sunday before I can get onto the mac and hopefully fix the conflict between the pc-setup CP and the ATI video extentions. Good luck -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Time to upgrade my VPC?
M D wrote: Hi Darren I haven't tried running Duke 3D under Windows as yet :) It's only the original DOS version I've been playing. With a very brief diversion to playing the Mac port - my 1st 'Duke' experience - which I think sucks royally. Admittedly this was the Mac demo version, and is only MNSHO! We can fix that Mike. I wouldnt be surprised if they're one in the same. So Duke plays on VPC3 and DOS? Cool. No probs apart from the sound emulation, probably my fault I was in a hurry. Why the need of voodoo2 when VPC2 emulates an S3 4 Mb card? Or is it the Mac requiring a video card? Will the VPC video speed up, because of the better video? VPC2 is Mac only, IIRC. I would love to have one [voodoo2] for the old PCI beige beast, myself. --- I've got a Win95 drive file but it's purly for testing [some] Win9 apps before allowing them to exist on a real Win drive it is so painfully slow. If a vid card could improve this I might run an OS newer than WFW 3.11 on it :) As I understand it VPC will make use of a Voodoo2 breaking the 4mb ceiling for vram which I see as the major drawback of pc emulation. I'll throw a couple of bucks at it to find out, last local V2 on ebay went for $15, I was at work and missed it. Worst case, I have another old video card for yet another old mac or pc. Cheers -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Time to upgrade my VPC?
M D wrote: playing the Mac port - my 1st 'Duke' experience - which I think sucks royally. Admittedly this was the Mac demo version, and is only MNSHO! We can fix that Mike. I wouldnt be surprised if they're one in the same. Most likely. I did have Duke 3D running OK in the Mac port... but do I have to get a G5 to get some life out of it? The DOS D 3d on my old P166 absolutely 'kicks ass'. Actually, D 3d played on the 100MHz DOS card in the G3 plays really great, maybe 3 to 4 times more responsive than on the G3. That's how it 'feels' to me anyhow. As Gregg mentioned, I only have the Atomic ed 1.5, very snappy on the 7300. The Duke3d.group file is 42.3mb for the mac and 25.9mb for the plain pc, havent looked at swapping them. ;) As for slow, there is a poor OpenGL version which may well require a G5 to get some value. I have a copy here somewhere. Nothing like the Quake2 OpenGL port. :( So Duke plays on VPC3 and DOS? Cool. As I understand it VPC will make use of a Voodoo2 breaking the 4mb ceiling for vram which I see as the major drawback of pc emulation. I'll throw a couple of bucks at it to find out, last local V2 on ebay went for $15, I was at work and missed it. Worst case, I have another old video card for yet another old mac or pc. Oh OK. Well in that case it would be well worth the effort in obtaining this card. I'll keep my eyes open for one too. I get the feeling old PCI vid cards for Macs are rare, tho'. I know Softwindows98 has options for both voodoo1 and 2 cards, I dont see the option with Softwindows95. Voodoo cards can be flashed with little trouble, stick with 3dfx rather than a third party. -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac \ Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Mac-N-DOS list info:http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
