Re: Itunes match or not?

['Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

There’s one other reason you’d want iTunes Match instead of or in addition to 
Apple Music that I’ve not yet seen mentioned: DRM. If you use Apple Music 
exclusively, you always get DRM, whether or not you uploaded your content. This 
is problematic if you routinely rely on syncing to other devices or playing in 
other players or libraries over the network. I no longer use Apple Music, but I 
think Match is good enough for that reason alone. You get the same content 
matching, but no DRM, and the convenience of being able to have an infinite 
library on any device, wherever it is. Of course, if your library can fit onto 
your device, the case for Match disappears, as is currently my case. Also 
notable: Match upgrades your content to 256 Kbps AAC; it also *downgrades* 
lossless quality to that format. You should not rely on Match or Music as a 
backup, just as a convenience. Finally, don’t forget Home Sharing, the feature 
that’ll let you stream content from your Mac or PC to your iOS devices and 
other Macs, including your music library at any quality. Unfortunately, it only 
allows streaming to iOS; you can’t download to your device this way. You still 
need Match if you want that—an absurd limitation, but there it is. The only way 
to get music onto your iOS device without Match or an Apple Music subscription 
remains iTunes syncing, with USB or over Wi-Fi.

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Re: Itunes match or not?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi Tim!
Its a lot of albums, both from apple music and some i’ve added.
Not sure if that may matters.
/A

> 20 jan. 2020 kl. 15:35 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi Anders,
> 
> Is your album one you've added from Apple Music, or is it one that you 
> originally ripped from CD and is in your Library?
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
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> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jan 20, 2020, at 07:21, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Ok., thanks for your great info.
> 
> I have some odd issues with Apple Music as i have some albums that are double 
> and they continue different songs.
> So lets say i have the album  aqualung with Jethro Tull then its 2 aqualung 
> and the first contains for example song 1 4 8 and the other one contains the 
> rest of the songs.
> There seems to be some crossreferencing of some sort.
> I have tried to log out from apple music and back in again.
> It does not help.
> Not even logging in and out from Icloud.
> What helps is to go to the search and search for the album and find it and 
> then remove it and add it back again.
> This is really ttime consuming.
> Really irritating to.
> /A
>> 18 jan. 2020 kl. 23:13 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Officially, both Apple Music and iTunes Match have facility for ripped 
>> personal music.  I've notice two problems that arise with only Apple Music.  
>> First, Apple Music likes to replace your ripped version with either a live 
>> version or some other remastered version that wasn't the original version 
>> you're used to listening to.  If you have loads of time, you can find the 
>> proper version in Apple Music and add it to your Library to fix the issue.  
>> Second, if you've had iTunes Match previously, and songs have been matched 
>> through the service, but those songs are not available within Apple Music, 
>> then those songs are not available to you anymore.  If you still have the 
>> music in your physical collection and are able to re-add it to your Library, 
>> then it will be added and accessible to you.  Otherwise,having both iTunes 
>> Match and Apple Music is of benefit to you.  When playing music, the OS will 
>> default to the iTunes Match version instead of the Apple Music version 
>> fixing some of these issues.
>> 
>> Later..
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Jan 18, 2020, at 13:08, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I have iTunes Match as well as Apple Music because I have lots of recordings 
>> which are not available in Apple Music. 
>> Harry
>> 
>>> On 18 Jan 2020, at 20:05, Anders Holmberg >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> If i have apple music do i then need Itunes match?
>>> I am really thinking about that but i am not sure.
>>> /A
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Re: Itunes match or not?

[Dave Carlson]

Tim,
Thanks for the pointers. For US$24.99 per year, I think I’ll pass. Not 
desperate enough to sign up for yet another bill from Apple.


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Re: Itunes match or not?

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Or you can do it through the iTunes app on your iPhone if you have one. 

> On 21/01/2020, at 03:33, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi Dave,
> 
> Basically, you subscribe via the iTunes Store window from within your Music 
> app on your Mac.  Details are found HERE 
> .
> 
> Later...
> 
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> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
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> 
> On Jan 20, 2020, at 00:52, Dave Carlson  > wrote:
> 
> Tim,
> Okay, how or where do I sign up for iTunes Match?
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Musician, Engineer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer
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Re: Itunes match or not?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Anders,

Is your album one you've added from Apple Music, or is it one that you 
originally ripped from CD and is in your Library?

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 20, 2020, at 07:21, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
Ok., thanks for your great info.

I have some odd issues with Apple Music as i have some albums that are double 
and they continue different songs.
So lets say i have the album  aqualung with Jethro Tull then its 2 aqualung and 
the first contains for example song 1 4 8 and the other one contains the rest 
of the songs.
There seems to be some crossreferencing of some sort.
I have tried to log out from apple music and back in again.
It does not help.
Not even logging in and out from Icloud.
What helps is to go to the search and search for the album and find it and then 
remove it and add it back again.
This is really ttime consuming.
Really irritating to.
/A
> 18 jan. 2020 kl. 23:13 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Officially, both Apple Music and iTunes Match have facility for ripped 
> personal music.  I've notice two problems that arise with only Apple Music.  
> First, Apple Music likes to replace your ripped version with either a live 
> version or some other remastered version that wasn't the original version 
> you're used to listening to.  If you have loads of time, you can find the 
> proper version in Apple Music and add it to your Library to fix the issue.  
> Second, if you've had iTunes Match previously, and songs have been matched 
> through the service, but those songs are not available within Apple Music, 
> then those songs are not available to you anymore.  If you still have the 
> music in your physical collection and are able to re-add it to your Library, 
> then it will be added and accessible to you.  Otherwise,having both iTunes 
> Match and Apple Music is of benefit to you.  When playing music, the OS will 
> default to the iTunes Match version instead of the Apple Music version fixing 
> some of these issues.
> 
> Later..
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jan 18, 2020, at 13:08, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> I have iTunes Match as well as Apple Music because I have lots of recordings 
> which are not available in Apple Music. 
> Harry
> 
>> On 18 Jan 2020, at 20:05, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> If i have apple music do i then need Itunes match?
>> I am really thinking about that but i am not sure.
>> /A
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Re: Itunes match or not?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Dave,

Basically, you subscribe via the iTunes Store window from within your Music app 
on your Mac.  Details are found HERE .

Later...


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On Jan 20, 2020, at 00:52, Dave Carlson  wrote:

Tim,
Okay, how or where do I sign up for iTunes Match?

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Re: Itunes match or not?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Ok., thanks for your great info.

I have some odd issues with Apple Music as i have some albums that are double 
and they continue different songs.
So lets say i have the album  aqualung with Jethro Tull then its 2 aqualung and 
the first contains for example song 1 4 8 and the other one contains the rest 
of the songs.
There seems to be some crossreferencing of some sort.
I have tried to log out from apple music and back in again.
It does not help.
Not even logging in and out from Icloud.
What helps is to go to the search and search for the album and find it and then 
remove it and add it back again.
This is really ttime consuming.
Really irritating to.
/A
> 18 jan. 2020 kl. 23:13 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Officially, both Apple Music and iTunes Match have facility for ripped 
> personal music.  I've notice two problems that arise with only Apple Music.  
> First, Apple Music likes to replace your ripped version with either a live 
> version or some other remastered version that wasn't the original version 
> you're used to listening to.  If you have loads of time, you can find the 
> proper version in Apple Music and add it to your Library to fix the issue.  
> Second, if you've had iTunes Match previously, and songs have been matched 
> through the service, but those songs are not available within Apple Music, 
> then those songs are not available to you anymore.  If you still have the 
> music in your physical collection and are able to re-add it to your Library, 
> then it will be added and accessible to you.  Otherwise,having both iTunes 
> Match and Apple Music is of benefit to you.  When playing music, the OS will 
> default to the iTunes Match version instead of the Apple Music version fixing 
> some of these issues.
> 
> Later..
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jan 18, 2020, at 13:08, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> I have iTunes Match as well as Apple Music because I have lots of recordings 
> which are not available in Apple Music. 
> Harry
> 
>> On 18 Jan 2020, at 20:05, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> If i have apple music do i then need Itunes match?
>> I am really thinking about that but i am not sure.
>> /A
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Re: Itunes match or not?

[Dave Carlson]

Tim,
Okay, how or where do I sign up for iTunes Match?

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Re: Itunes match or not?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Dave,

It's great during this part of things.  Once you subscribe to iTunes Match, and 
enable the iCloud Music Library on those devices, all playlists from each 
device are placed up in iCloud so you don't lose any of them from any device.  
It's quite a slick system.  I only used iTunes Match for the longest time, but 
decided to subscribe to Apple Music just over a year ago because I'm a nice 
husband and father.  At least that's my story and I'm sticking to it :).

Later...


Tim Kilburn
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 19, 2020, at 10:33, Dave Carlson  wrote:

Tim,
Okay, that’s more encouraging. I’ll have to consider this, since I do have 
playlists on different devices that would be nice to have copied to others.


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Re: Itunes match or not?

[Dave Carlson]

Tim,
Okay, that’s more encouraging. I’ll have to consider this, since I do have 
playlists on different devices that would be nice to have copied to others.


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Re: Itunes match or not?

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Hi Dave,

Actually, iTunes Match is an excellent service.  the complications come about 
when you use Apple Music.  If you have a big library of your own music and 
that's the music you prefer to listen to, then iTunes Match can be for you.  
The benefits manifest themselves when you have multiple devices such as 
iPhones, iPads, Macs, PC's, Apple TV and/or HomePod.  iTunes Match allows you 
to have your library both in the iCloud world and locally.  So, any playlist 
you have or create on one device, is automatically on all other devices.  No 
need to worry about syncing from one to another, or importing/exporting 
playlists, these are all in an iCloud Library that is automatically synced to 
all those devices you've got music on.  An added benefit with iTunes Match is 
that Apple will substitute any lower quality mp3 music with their high quality 
AAC version.  The quality is the only thing changed, not the version of the 
song.  You don't need to worry about paying for extra storage either, iTunes 
Match allows for up to 100,000 titles.  This 100,000 only counts the music it 
couldn't match, so even if you have 120,000 songs in your library, the 
likelihood of Apple having a considerable number of those titles already in 
their library is pretty high, so you would not likely be exceeding that limit 
very easily.

Later...


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On Jan 18, 2020, at 19:46, Dave Carlson  wrote:

Man, this Apple Music and Match sound awful. I think I’ll stick to what I rip 
and keep on my Mac and in my library, and forget all about this Apple/Match 
stuff.


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Re: Itunes match or not?

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   I still have all my ripped music untouched, in my library. And I buy 
new music from the iTunes store. I've never messed with Apple Music or 
iTunes Match.


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On 1/18/2020 6:46 PM, Dave Carlson wrote:
Man, this Apple Music and Match sound awful. I think I’ll stick to what 
I rip and keep on my Mac and in my library, and forget all about this 
Apple/Match stuff.



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Re: Itunes match or not?

[Dave Carlson]

Man, this Apple Music and Match sound awful. I think I’ll stick to what I rip 
and keep on my Mac and in my library, and forget all about this Apple/Match 
stuff.


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Re: Itunes match or not?

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Hi,

Officially, both Apple Music and iTunes Match have facility for ripped personal 
music.  I've notice two problems that arise with only Apple Music.  First, 
Apple Music likes to replace your ripped version with either a live version or 
some other remastered version that wasn't the original version you're used to 
listening to.  If you have loads of time, you can find the proper version in 
Apple Music and add it to your Library to fix the issue.  Second, if you've had 
iTunes Match previously, and songs have been matched through the service, but 
those songs are not available within Apple Music, then those songs are not 
available to you anymore.  If you still have the music in your physical 
collection and are able to re-add it to your Library, then it will be added and 
accessible to you.  Otherwise,having both iTunes Match and Apple Music is of 
benefit to you.  When playing music, the OS will default to the iTunes Match 
version instead of the Apple Music version fixing some of these issues.

Later..


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I have iTunes Match as well as Apple Music because I have lots of recordings 
which are not available in Apple Music. 
Harry

> On 18 Jan 2020, at 20:05, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> If i have apple music do i then need Itunes match?
> I am really thinking about that but i am not sure.
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RE: Itunes match or not?

[sarai.bucciarelli]

I have both as well for the same reason. Definitely worth it.

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I have iTunes Match as well as Apple Music because I have lots of recordings 
which are not available in Apple Music. 
Harry

> On 18 Jan 2020, at 20:05, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> I am really thinking about that but i am not sure.
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Re: Itunes match or not?

['Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries]

I have iTunes Match as well as Apple Music because I have lots of recordings 
which are not available in Apple Music. 
Harry

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Re: iTunes Match

[KliphnShari Miller]

It does not work.  ITunes match has to be purchased by each apppleID.  Unless 
you share that appleID, then it won’t matter.  I share one, and all music, 
playlists, podcasts show up on all my devices.


Sent from my iPhone X

On Jun 6, 2019, at 7:24 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:

Hi all, 
I unsubscribed from Apple Music today and purchased a 1 year subscription to 
iTunes Match. I forgot to check to see if family sharing works on iTunes 
Match?and if so how does one check to see if it is tuned on?
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Re: iTunes match and apple music, syncing issues

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hi,

On the iDevice, turn off iCloud Music Library, don't show Apple Music and even 
turn off iTunes Match if you can.  Back your way out of there and restart the 
iDevice.  Now, on the Mac, in iTunes, go under the File menu, down to Library, 
then select Update iCloud Music Library.  Wait for this action to finish.  Then 
go back into Settings on the iDevice and turn iTunes Match and Apple Music back 
on.  If you have WiFi, it's best to attempt this with the WiFi connection since 
the sync likely would work better in that environment.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Dec 2, 2016, at 10:47, Matthew Dierckens  wrote:

Hi guys,
I am working with a student who has both apple music and iTunes Match.
Something is not syncing properly because they only have certain songs on their 
phone and we cant figure out what is going on.
We have tried turning off and on iCloud music library, but that doesn't seem to 
fix it.
Can we get some help here?
Thank you.

God bless.
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RE: iTunes match questions

[Simon Fogarty]

I did in the early days of match look  at it, 
But can't say I've taken notice,

 Is match the one that will upgrade your music files to higher quality 
recordings?

I subscribe to apple music but I still buy a lot of music so I can keep it in 
my own library 


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Good choice.  Cause iTunes match is a annual fee, so once a year.  And if you 
cancel, your music stays on your system.  I love it though, car play works with 
it flawlessly.
> On Nov 4, 2016, at 1:06 PM, aliFaisal <faisal.a...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
>   It is disconcerting to lose all the music that was compiled if one 
> happens to cancel their apple music subscription. Given this fact, it might 
> be more advantageous to just keep iTunes match, and purchase individual songs 
> or albums as one sees fit. I would hate to lose too much music in case of 
> unforeseen financial circumstances.
> I think I might cancel apple music and just get iTunes match.
> 
>> On Nov 4, 2016, at 12:32 PM, Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Tim is exactly right.  Both services are not necessary unless you are going 
>> to play some some that you don’t want to have a copy of.  I like iTunes 
>> match, cause it shows up on all my devices, including my appleTV.  They 
>> allow you to have up to 100 thousand songs in your iCloud music library,  
>> And right now I have a total of 94382 left the last 6000 for new music I 
>> might get.  I have everything I like in 1 spot, and even when I create play 
>> lists, they sync to all my devices.  HTH
>> 
>>> On Nov 4, 2016, at 10:24 AM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Apple Music and iTunes Match are different, complementary, but also similar.
>>> 
>>> Apple Music does pretty well everything iTunes Match does, but a little 
>>> differently and with a few restrictions.
>>> 
>>> • both Apple Music and iTunes Match store your entire iTunes Library in 
>>> iCloud.  That is, they both take personal music and playlists, put them 
>>> into the Cloud and make them accessible to all your devices.
>>> • iTunes Match gives you a DRM free copy of your personal music if it is 
>>> available, whereas Apple Music downloads a copy with DRM present.
>>> • if you terminate iTunes Match, the high quality copies of the music are 
>>> still available to you if you downloaded them, but with Apple Music, if you 
>>> terminate the subscription, you lose access to the higher quality Apple 
>>> Music version.
>>> • iTunes Match only gives you access to your own music and your purchased 
>>> music.  Apple Music gives you access to the entire 43 million songs in 
>>> Apple's iTunes library.
>>> • when downloading local copies to your devices, both iTunes Match and 
>>> Apple Music will give you the Apple version if available, but note the DRM 
>>> restrictions above.
>>> • both also have restrictions on the quality and length of the original for 
>>> upload to the Cloud.
>>> • there's some other technical differences that I can't remember.
>>> 
>>> So, in most cases, having both services is unnecessary, although there are 
>>> situations where it is useful.
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Nov 4, 2016, at 07:09, aliFaisal <faisal.a...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> I am a current apple music subscriber, and wish to possibly invest in 
>>> iTunes match but had some questions.
>>> I understand that the service matches your library with what it has in the 
>>> store and provides you to download the matched song. I also have a lot of 
>>> songs I have added with apple music. How does it go about apple music songs 
>>> and playlist? Does it match those as well?
>>> I have a large library with songs in the thousands. What would be the 
>>> easiest and the most convenient way of determining whether the service has 
>>> found matches for a song that I am listening to. would this information be 
>>> reflected in the contextual menu on the song?
>>> And finally, when one downloads the matched song, what then happens to the 
>>> original file that was in your library? does it get replaced or will it 
>>> create 

Re: iTunes match questions

[Kliphton Miller]

Good choice.  Cause iTunes match is a annual fee, so once a year.  And if you 
cancel, your music stays on your system.  I love it though, car play works with 
it flawlessly.
> On Nov 4, 2016, at 1:06 PM, aliFaisal  wrote:
> 
>   It is disconcerting to lose all the music that was compiled if one 
> happens to cancel their apple music subscription. Given this fact, it might 
> be more advantageous to just keep iTunes match, and purchase individual songs 
> or albums as one sees fit. I would hate to lose too much music in case of 
> unforeseen financial circumstances.
> I think I might cancel apple music and just get iTunes match.
> 
>> On Nov 4, 2016, at 12:32 PM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
>> 
>> Tim is exactly right.  Both services are not necessary unless you are going 
>> to play some some that you don’t want to have a copy of.  I like iTunes 
>> match, cause it shows up on all my devices, including my appleTV.  They 
>> allow you to have up to 100 thousand songs in your iCloud music library,  
>> And right now I have a total of 94382 left the last 6000 for new music I 
>> might get.  I have everything I like in 1 spot, and even when I create play 
>> lists, they sync to all my devices.  HTH
>> 
>>> On Nov 4, 2016, at 10:24 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Apple Music and iTunes Match are different, complementary, but also similar.
>>> 
>>> Apple Music does pretty well everything iTunes Match does, but a little 
>>> differently and with a few restrictions.
>>> 
>>> • both Apple Music and iTunes Match store your entire iTunes Library in 
>>> iCloud.  That is, they both take personal music and playlists, put them 
>>> into the Cloud and make them accessible to all your devices.
>>> • iTunes Match gives you a DRM free copy of your personal music if it is 
>>> available, whereas Apple Music downloads a copy with DRM present.
>>> • if you terminate iTunes Match, the high quality copies of the music are 
>>> still available to you if you downloaded them, but with Apple Music, if you 
>>> terminate the subscription, you lose access to the higher quality Apple 
>>> Music version.
>>> • iTunes Match only gives you access to your own music and your purchased 
>>> music.  Apple Music gives you access to the entire 43 million songs in 
>>> Apple's iTunes library.
>>> • when downloading local copies to your devices, both iTunes Match and 
>>> Apple Music will give you the Apple version if available, but note the DRM 
>>> restrictions above.
>>> • both also have restrictions on the quality and length of the original for 
>>> upload to the Cloud.
>>> • there's some other technical differences that I can't remember.
>>> 
>>> So, in most cases, having both services is unnecessary, although there are 
>>> situations where it is useful.
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Nov 4, 2016, at 07:09, aliFaisal  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> I am a current apple music subscriber, and wish to possibly invest in 
>>> iTunes match but had some questions.
>>> I understand that the service matches your library with what it has in the 
>>> store and provides you to download the matched song. I also have a lot of 
>>> songs I have added with apple music. How does it go about apple music songs 
>>> and playlist? Does it match those as well?
>>> I have a large library with songs in the thousands. What would be the 
>>> easiest and the most convenient way of determining whether the service has 
>>> found matches for a song that I am listening to. would this information be 
>>> reflected in the contextual menu on the song?
>>> And finally, when one downloads the matched song, what then happens to the 
>>> original file that was in your library? does it get replaced or will it 
>>> create duplicates.
>>> If it doesn’t replace them outright, is there a way to set iTunes to do 
>>> that? I am pretty busy on most days and do not have the time to sift 
>>> through and find duplicates that iTunes match has created with the matched 
>>> songs. I want to automate the process as much as I can.
>>> Thanking you in advance for your feedback.
>>> 
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Re: iTunes match questions

[aliFaisal]

It is disconcerting to lose all the music that was compiled if one 
happens to cancel their apple music subscription. Given this fact, it might be 
more advantageous to just keep iTunes match, and purchase individual songs or 
albums as one sees fit. I would hate to lose too much music in case of 
unforeseen financial circumstances.
I think I might cancel apple music and just get iTunes match.

> On Nov 4, 2016, at 12:32 PM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
> 
> Tim is exactly right.  Both services are not necessary unless you are going 
> to play some some that you don’t want to have a copy of.  I like iTunes 
> match, cause it shows up on all my devices, including my appleTV.  They allow 
> you to have up to 100 thousand songs in your iCloud music library,  And right 
> now I have a total of 94382 left the last 6000 for new music I might get.  I 
> have everything I like in 1 spot, and even when I create play lists, they 
> sync to all my devices.  HTH
> 
>> On Nov 4, 2016, at 10:24 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Apple Music and iTunes Match are different, complementary, but also similar.
>> 
>> Apple Music does pretty well everything iTunes Match does, but a little 
>> differently and with a few restrictions.
>> 
>> • both Apple Music and iTunes Match store your entire iTunes Library in 
>> iCloud.  That is, they both take personal music and playlists, put them into 
>> the Cloud and make them accessible to all your devices.
>> • iTunes Match gives you a DRM free copy of your personal music if it is 
>> available, whereas Apple Music downloads a copy with DRM present.
>> • if you terminate iTunes Match, the high quality copies of the music are 
>> still available to you if you downloaded them, but with Apple Music, if you 
>> terminate the subscription, you lose access to the higher quality Apple 
>> Music version.
>> • iTunes Match only gives you access to your own music and your purchased 
>> music.  Apple Music gives you access to the entire 43 million songs in 
>> Apple's iTunes library.
>> • when downloading local copies to your devices, both iTunes Match and Apple 
>> Music will give you the Apple version if available, but note the DRM 
>> restrictions above.
>> • both also have restrictions on the quality and length of the original for 
>> upload to the Cloud.
>> • there's some other technical differences that I can't remember.
>> 
>> So, in most cases, having both services is unnecessary, although there are 
>> situations where it is useful.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Nov 4, 2016, at 07:09, aliFaisal  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> I am a current apple music subscriber, and wish to possibly invest in iTunes 
>> match but had some questions.
>> I understand that the service matches your library with what it has in the 
>> store and provides you to download the matched song. I also have a lot of 
>> songs I have added with apple music. How does it go about apple music songs 
>> and playlist? Does it match those as well?
>> I have a large library with songs in the thousands. What would be the 
>> easiest and the most convenient way of determining whether the service has 
>> found matches for a song that I am listening to. would this information be 
>> reflected in the contextual menu on the song?
>> And finally, when one downloads the matched song, what then happens to the 
>> original file that was in your library? does it get replaced or will it 
>> create duplicates.
>> If it doesn’t replace them outright, is there a way to set iTunes to do 
>> that? I am pretty busy on most days and do not have the time to sift through 
>> and find duplicates that iTunes match has created with the matched songs. I 
>> want to automate the process as much as I can.
>> Thanking you in advance for your feedback.
>> 
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Re: iTunes match questions

[Kliphton Miller]

Tim is exactly right.  Both services are not necessary unless you are going to 
play some some that you don’t want to have a copy of.  I like iTunes match, 
cause it shows up on all my devices, including my appleTV.  They allow you to 
have up to 100 thousand songs in your iCloud music library,  And right now I 
have a total of 94382 left the last 6000 for new music I might get.  I have 
everything I like in 1 spot, and even when I create play lists, they sync to 
all my devices.  HTH

> On Nov 4, 2016, at 10:24 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Apple Music and iTunes Match are different, complementary, but also similar.
> 
> Apple Music does pretty well everything iTunes Match does, but a little 
> differently and with a few restrictions.
> 
> • both Apple Music and iTunes Match store your entire iTunes Library in 
> iCloud.  That is, they both take personal music and playlists, put them into 
> the Cloud and make them accessible to all your devices.
> • iTunes Match gives you a DRM free copy of your personal music if it is 
> available, whereas Apple Music downloads a copy with DRM present.
> • if you terminate iTunes Match, the high quality copies of the music are 
> still available to you if you downloaded them, but with Apple Music, if you 
> terminate the subscription, you lose access to the higher quality Apple Music 
> version.
> • iTunes Match only gives you access to your own music and your purchased 
> music.  Apple Music gives you access to the entire 43 million songs in 
> Apple's iTunes library.
> • when downloading local copies to your devices, both iTunes Match and Apple 
> Music will give you the Apple version if available, but note the DRM 
> restrictions above.
> • both also have restrictions on the quality and length of the original for 
> upload to the Cloud.
> • there's some other technical differences that I can't remember.
> 
> So, in most cases, having both services is unnecessary, although there are 
> situations where it is useful.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 4, 2016, at 07:09, aliFaisal  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> I am a current apple music subscriber, and wish to possibly invest in iTunes 
> match but had some questions.
> I understand that the service matches your library with what it has in the 
> store and provides you to download the matched song. I also have a lot of 
> songs I have added with apple music. How does it go about apple music songs 
> and playlist? Does it match those as well?
> I have a large library with songs in the thousands. What would be the easiest 
> and the most convenient way of determining whether the service has found 
> matches for a song that I am listening to. would this information be 
> reflected in the contextual menu on the song?
> And finally, when one downloads the matched song, what then happens to the 
> original file that was in your library? does it get replaced or will it 
> create duplicates.
> If it doesn’t replace them outright, is there a way to set iTunes to do that? 
> I am pretty busy on most days and do not have the time to sift through and 
> find duplicates that iTunes match has created with the matched songs. I want 
> to automate the process as much as I can.
> Thanking you in advance for your feedback.
> 
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Re: iTunes match questions

[aliFaisal]

The reason for me to initially have iTunes match is for me to get higher 
qualities of music I had added to my library. And the other major problem is 
with apple music songs, I am restricted to only having them available on apple 
products and in iTunes on windows. I want to be able to not only have those 
songs everywhere, but to be able to play them in other programs, say winamp on 
windows. I much rather prefer to use winamp to play my music than iTunes.

> On Nov 4, 2016, at 10:24 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Apple Music and iTunes Match are different, complementary, but also similar.
> 
> Apple Music does pretty well everything iTunes Match does, but a little 
> differently and with a few restrictions.
> 
> • both Apple Music and iTunes Match store your entire iTunes Library in 
> iCloud.  That is, they both take personal music and playlists, put them into 
> the Cloud and make them accessible to all your devices.
> • iTunes Match gives you a DRM free copy of your personal music if it is 
> available, whereas Apple Music downloads a copy with DRM present.
> • if you terminate iTunes Match, the high quality copies of the music are 
> still available to you if you downloaded them, but with Apple Music, if you 
> terminate the subscription, you lose access to the higher quality Apple Music 
> version.
> • iTunes Match only gives you access to your own music and your purchased 
> music.  Apple Music gives you access to the entire 43 million songs in 
> Apple's iTunes library.
> • when downloading local copies to your devices, both iTunes Match and Apple 
> Music will give you the Apple version if available, but note the DRM 
> restrictions above.
> • both also have restrictions on the quality and length of the original for 
> upload to the Cloud.
> • there's some other technical differences that I can't remember.
> 
> So, in most cases, having both services is unnecessary, although there are 
> situations where it is useful.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 4, 2016, at 07:09, aliFaisal  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> I am a current apple music subscriber, and wish to possibly invest in iTunes 
> match but had some questions.
> I understand that the service matches your library with what it has in the 
> store and provides you to download the matched song. I also have a lot of 
> songs I have added with apple music. How does it go about apple music songs 
> and playlist? Does it match those as well?
> I have a large library with songs in the thousands. What would be the easiest 
> and the most convenient way of determining whether the service has found 
> matches for a song that I am listening to. would this information be 
> reflected in the contextual menu on the song?
> And finally, when one downloads the matched song, what then happens to the 
> original file that was in your library? does it get replaced or will it 
> create duplicates.
> If it doesn’t replace them outright, is there a way to set iTunes to do that? 
> I am pretty busy on most days and do not have the time to sift through and 
> find duplicates that iTunes match has created with the matched songs. I want 
> to automate the process as much as I can.
> Thanking you in advance for your feedback.
> 
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Re: iTunes match questions

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Apple Music and iTunes Match are different, complementary, but also similar.

Apple Music does pretty well everything iTunes Match does, but a little 
differently and with a few restrictions.

• both Apple Music and iTunes Match store your entire iTunes Library in iCloud. 
 That is, they both take personal music and playlists, put them into the Cloud 
and make them accessible to all your devices.
• iTunes Match gives you a DRM free copy of your personal music if it is 
available, whereas Apple Music downloads a copy with DRM present.
• if you terminate iTunes Match, the high quality copies of the music are still 
available to you if you downloaded them, but with Apple Music, if you terminate 
the subscription, you lose access to the higher quality Apple Music version.
• iTunes Match only gives you access to your own music and your purchased 
music.  Apple Music gives you access to the entire 43 million songs in Apple's 
iTunes library.
• when downloading local copies to your devices, both iTunes Match and Apple 
Music will give you the Apple version if available, but note the DRM 
restrictions above.
• both also have restrictions on the quality and length of the original for 
upload to the Cloud.
• there's some other technical differences that I can't remember.

So, in most cases, having both services is unnecessary, although there are 
situations where it is useful.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 4, 2016, at 07:09, aliFaisal  wrote:

Hello everyone,
I am a current apple music subscriber, and wish to possibly invest in iTunes 
match but had some questions.
I understand that the service matches your library with what it has in the 
store and provides you to download the matched song. I also have a lot of songs 
I have added with apple music. How does it go about apple music songs and 
playlist? Does it match those as well?
I have a large library with songs in the thousands. What would be the easiest 
and the most convenient way of determining whether the service has found 
matches for a song that I am listening to. would this information be reflected 
in the contextual menu on the song?
And finally, when one downloads the matched song, what then happens to the 
original file that was in your library? does it get replaced or will it create 
duplicates.
If it doesn’t replace them outright, is there a way to set iTunes to do that? I 
am pretty busy on most days and do not have the time to sift through and find 
duplicates that iTunes match has created with the matched songs. I want to 
automate the process as much as I can.
Thanking you in advance for your feedback.


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Re: iTunes match questions

[Daniel Miller]

Hi. You do not need to be invested in the separate iTunes match service 
anymore. They incorporate the matching functionality into Apple Music. So if 
you upload all of your songs to iCloud music library that weren't  iTunes, they 
will remain on all your devices. As far as duplicates, what I  usually do is 
delete  the copies of songs and then re-download them. 

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

> On Nov 4, 2016, at 9:09 AM, aliFaisal  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> I am a current apple music subscriber, and wish to possibly invest in iTunes 
> match but had some questions.
> I understand that the service matches your library with what it has in the 
> store and provides you to download the matched song. I also have a lot of 
> songs I have added with apple music. How does it go about apple music songs 
> and playlist? Does it match those as well?
> I have a large library with songs in the thousands. What would be the easiest 
> and the most convenient way of determining whether the service has found 
> matches for a song that I am listening to. would this information be 
> reflected in the contextual menu on the song?
> And finally, when one downloads the matched song, what then happens to the 
> original file that was in your library? does it get replaced or will it 
> create duplicates.
> If it doesn’t replace them outright, is there a way to set iTunes to do that? 
> I am pretty busy on most days and do not have the time to sift through and 
> find duplicates that iTunes match has created with the matched songs. I want 
> to automate the process as much as I can.
> Thanking you in advance for your feedback.
> 
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Re: iTunes match revisited

[Daniel Miller]

Yep, then you'll have access to the match versions.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 9, 2015, at 6:15 PM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Just to be  clear, you go ahead and remove the songs locally after iTune has 
 finished matching  your library?
 Thanks
 On Feb 9, 2015, at 4:13 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, you have to remove the songs locally from your library in order to gain 
 access to the match conversions. If you don't, iTunes will continue to play 
 the version that you have stored in your library.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Feb 9, 2015, at 6:05 PM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I have another question regarding iTunes match. After the songs on your 
 library’s been matched, what happens to the original songs that were in the 
 library?
 Thanks
 
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Re: iTunes match revisited

[Daniel Miller]

Hi, you have to remove the songs locally from your library in order to gain 
access to the match conversions. If you don't, iTunes will continue to play the 
version that you have stored in your library.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 9, 2015, at 6:05 PM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I have another question regarding iTunes match. After the songs on your 
 library’s been matched, what happens to the original songs that were in the 
 library?
 Thanks
 
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Re: iTunes match revisited

[Faisal ali]

Hi,
Just to be  clear, you go ahead and remove the songs locally after iTune has 
finished matching  your library?
Thanks
 On Feb 9, 2015, at 4:13 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, you have to remove the songs locally from your library in order to gain 
 access to the match conversions. If you don't, iTunes will continue to play 
 the version that you have stored in your library.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Feb 9, 2015, at 6:05 PM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I have another question regarding iTunes match. After the songs on your 
 library’s been matched, what happens to the original songs that were in the 
 library?
 Thanks
 
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Re: Itunes match stalling checking songs

[Cheryl Homiak]

Actually, I solved it; thanks! I had googled it but the solutions looked 
awfully complicated me. So first I tried stopping the process, turning off 
iTunes match, and quitting iTunes, then re-opening iTunes and turning on iTunes 
match. This time it still stalled in step 2, about nine songs sooner. So I 
again stopped the process, turned off iTunes match, quit iTunes and shut down 
my computer. Then I started the computer again and opened iTunes and started 
match again. This time it finished step 2 and I think it is now in the process 
of uploading artwork and remaining songs if I understand what is happening. 
Apparently this can sometimes be a problem with Apple but also can be something 
that has to be solved with somehow backing up and removing certain songs and I 
wanted to avoid having to figure that out. So far it appears I have gotten it 
going again without having to do anything that drastic.

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I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness.
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




On Jan 14, 2015, at 4:36 AM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote:

I am afraid that this does happen from time to time. Even when you have all the 
songs imported I sometimes get iTunes Match freezing an d get a message 
eventually that iTunes is unable to contact  the store.

I do not  know why this happens but suspect a capacity problem on the Apple 
end. Generally I have to restart iTunes to clear the problem.
You should not lose what you have already imported.
David Griffith 
 On 14 Jan 2015, at 08:34, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com 
 mailto:cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I subscribed to iTunes match a few hours ago. It has been going through the 
 steps fine but now for some time has been stalled in checking songs at 9924 
 of 10041. Is there something I should do to get this process going again?
 
 Thanks.
 
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 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
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 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
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 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
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Re: Itunes match stalling checking songs

[David Griffith]

I am afraid that this does happen from time to time. Even when you have all the 
songs imported I sometimes get iTunes Match freezing an d get a message 
eventually that iTunes is unable to contact  the store.

I do not  know why this happens but suspect a capacity problem on the Apple 
end. Generally I have to restart iTunes to clear the problem.
You should not lose what you have already imported.
David Griffith 
 On 14 Jan 2015, at 08:34, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I subscribed to iTunes match a few hours ago. It has been going through the 
 steps fine but now for some time has been stalled in checking songs at 9924 
 of 10041. Is there something I should do to get this process going again?
 
 Thanks.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: iTunes Match: do you keep matched tracks after your Match ends?

[Faisal ali]

Hi,
Is there any way to do this? The only way I can justify such an expensive 
yearly subscription is having them all upload and replaced by higher quality 
songs.
 On Jan 9, 2015, at 10:54 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Not exactly.  If those 400,000 songs are all non-purchased songs, then only 
 25,000 can be uploaded and matched with your subscription.  That size of 
 library does not work in the current iTunes Match scenario.  There are 
 probably ways you could manipulate things so that you were able to get the 
 iTunes matched higher quality songs downloaded to your computer, but not all 
 simultaneously.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jan 8, 2015, at 16:56, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com 
 mailto:faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 In other words, if your entire music collection IE 400 000 songs are all 
 matched in the iTunes store, you will only have access to 25000 per year?
 On Jan 8, 2015, at 3:54 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com 
 mailto:kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Oops, I read over Kliph’s scenario again, and I misunderstood it 
 originally.  In either case, my explanation stands correct.
 
 Sorry for any confusion.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jan 8, 2015, at 16:51, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com 
 mailto:kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Kliph,
 
 If I’m understanding your example correctly, then you’re correct.
 
 EG:
 
 250,000 songs - Kliph’s total music library.
 240,000 songs - Purchased from iTunes
 10,000 - Ripped from personal music collection.
 
 Therefore, with an iTunes Match subscription, the 240,000 purchased songs 
 are available in the Cloud whether you have iTunes Match or not, so they 
 are not counted towards the maximum.  The 10,000 songs that were not 
 purchased from iTunes, will either be matched with their respective title 
 in the iTunes world or just uploaded to your private iTunes Match space.  
 If 5,000 of those non-purchased songs can actually be matched with songs 
 in the iTunes world, then high quality versions of those can be downloaded 
 for free to your personal library.  If you do download the high quality 
 version, it is yours to keep.  The rest of the unmatchable songs will 
 remain the same as they are on your local machine and can be streamed or 
 downloaded to any of your devices at anytime that you have access to the 
 Internet.  As well, in this scenario, you’ve only used 10,000 of your 
 25,000 song limit, so, lots of room left for more.
 
 I find that the iTunes Match is especially useful on my iPhone.  There’s 
 no way the iPhone could hold the entire library, but I have full access to 
 it whenever I’m either connected to WiFi or to my cellular connection.  I 
 place a couple hundred of my more favourite songs on specific playlists 
 and download those onto my iPhone for listening when I’m not connected, 
 such as on an airplane or off in no-man’s land where there’s no cell 
 signal.
 
 HTH.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jan 8, 2015, at 13:02, Kliph kliphzkor...@icloud.com 
 mailto:kliphzkor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 So let me get this straight.  I was told if your music in your iTunes 
 library is already in the match data base, that it does not count against 
 your 25 thousand count limit, only songs that match cannot find are 
 counted against you?  Do I have it correct?  So for example, I have over 
 250 thousand songs in my iTunes library, if 10 thousand of them can’t be 
 found, that is all that will be counted against my limit?  Someone please 
 clarify.
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 On Jan 8, 2015, at 9:29 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Okay, thanks, that makes sense and is about what I figured. I'm still 
 not sure if Match is worth the price for me, especially when I could 
 spend less and just expand my iCloud storage, then dump my music on that 
 instead.
 On Jan 8, 2015, at 12:18 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com 
 mailto:kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Matched are considered different than Purchased to iTunes, so those 
 Matched items you’ve downloaded to the local machine will remain yours 
 to use and only Purchased media will be available from the Cloud if you 
 discontinue.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jan 7, 2015, at 20:47, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com 

Re: iTunes Match: do you keep matched tracks after your Match ends?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Not exactly.  If those 400,000 songs are all non-purchased songs, then only 
25,000 can be uploaded and matched with your subscription.  That size of 
library does not work in the current iTunes Match scenario.  There are probably 
ways you could manipulate things so that you were able to get the iTunes 
matched higher quality songs downloaded to your computer, but not all 
simultaneously.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 On Jan 8, 2015, at 16:56, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 In other words, if your entire music collection IE 400 000 songs are all 
 matched in the iTunes store, you will only have access to 25000 per year?
 On Jan 8, 2015, at 3:54 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com 
 mailto:kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Oops, I read over Kliph’s scenario again, and I misunderstood it originally. 
  In either case, my explanation stands correct.
 
 Sorry for any confusion.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jan 8, 2015, at 16:51, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com 
 mailto:kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Kliph,
 
 If I’m understanding your example correctly, then you’re correct.
 
 EG:
 
 250,000 songs - Kliph’s total music library.
 240,000 songs - Purchased from iTunes
 10,000 - Ripped from personal music collection.
 
 Therefore, with an iTunes Match subscription, the 240,000 purchased songs 
 are available in the Cloud whether you have iTunes Match or not, so they 
 are not counted towards the maximum.  The 10,000 songs that were not 
 purchased from iTunes, will either be matched with their respective title 
 in the iTunes world or just uploaded to your private iTunes Match space.  
 If 5,000 of those non-purchased songs can actually be matched with songs in 
 the iTunes world, then high quality versions of those can be downloaded for 
 free to your personal library.  If you do download the high quality 
 version, it is yours to keep.  The rest of the unmatchable songs will 
 remain the same as they are on your local machine and can be streamed or 
 downloaded to any of your devices at anytime that you have access to the 
 Internet.  As well, in this scenario, you’ve only used 10,000 of your 
 25,000 song limit, so, lots of room left for more.
 
 I find that the iTunes Match is especially useful on my iPhone.  There’s no 
 way the iPhone could hold the entire library, but I have full access to it 
 whenever I’m either connected to WiFi or to my cellular connection.  I 
 place a couple hundred of my more favourite songs on specific playlists and 
 download those onto my iPhone for listening when I’m not connected, such as 
 on an airplane or off in no-man’s land where there’s no cell signal.
 
 HTH.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jan 8, 2015, at 13:02, Kliph kliphzkor...@icloud.com 
 mailto:kliphzkor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 So let me get this straight.  I was told if your music in your iTunes 
 library is already in the match data base, that it does not count against 
 your 25 thousand count limit, only songs that match cannot find are 
 counted against you?  Do I have it correct?  So for example, I have over 
 250 thousand songs in my iTunes library, if 10 thousand of them can’t be 
 found, that is all that will be counted against my limit?  Someone please 
 clarify.
 Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV?  New user and want quick 
 efficient answers?  Or maybe you know apple products and want to 
 contribute?  Then come join a list where questions are always answered, 
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 On Jan 8, 2015, at 9:29 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Okay, thanks, that makes sense and is about what I figured. I'm still not 
 sure if Match is worth the price for me, especially when I could spend 
 less and just expand my iCloud storage, then dump my music on that 
 instead.
 On Jan 8, 2015, at 12:18 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com 
 mailto:kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Matched are considered different than Purchased to iTunes, so those 
 Matched items you’ve downloaded to the local machine will remain yours 
 to use and only Purchased media will be available from the Cloud if you 
 discontinue.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jan 7, 2015, at 20:47, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Thanks. I'm guessing files it can't match will no longer be based in 
 the cloud if you cancel, correct? But that you keep matched content is 
 good to know, I just wonder if you only keep it locally or if it is 
 still available in your cloud-based library (read, 

Re: iTunes Match: do you keep matched tracks after your Match ends?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

I’ve never tried it, but you would likely need to manipulate your library so 
that it was divided into portions that don’t exceed the iTunes Match 
limitations.  You then would match that group of songs, downloading the 
upgraded versions.  Once you have the upgraded version, you can change to the 
next library and do the same.  Certainly not the intended use for the iTunes 
Match service and it could have a few extra steps beyond that if you attempted 
it.  There could also be some underlying checks within iTunes Match that made 
it more difficult, but I’m not aware of them.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 On Jan 9, 2015, at 12:01, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Is there any way to do this? The only way I can justify such an expensive 
 yearly subscription is having them all upload and replaced by higher quality 
 songs.
 On Jan 9, 2015, at 10:54 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com 
 mailto:kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Not exactly.  If those 400,000 songs are all non-purchased songs, then only 
 25,000 can be uploaded and matched with your subscription.  That size of 
 library does not work in the current iTunes Match scenario.  There are 
 probably ways you could manipulate things so that you were able to get the 
 iTunes matched higher quality songs downloaded to your computer, but not all 
 simultaneously.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jan 8, 2015, at 16:56, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com 
 mailto:faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 In other words, if your entire music collection IE 400 000 songs are all 
 matched in the iTunes store, you will only have access to 25000 per year?
 On Jan 8, 2015, at 3:54 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com 
 mailto:kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Oops, I read over Kliph’s scenario again, and I misunderstood it 
 originally.  In either case, my explanation stands correct.
 
 Sorry for any confusion.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jan 8, 2015, at 16:51, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com 
 mailto:kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Kliph,
 
 If I’m understanding your example correctly, then you’re correct.
 
 EG:
 
 250,000 songs - Kliph’s total music library.
 240,000 songs - Purchased from iTunes
 10,000 - Ripped from personal music collection.
 
 Therefore, with an iTunes Match subscription, the 240,000 purchased songs 
 are available in the Cloud whether you have iTunes Match or not, so they 
 are not counted towards the maximum.  The 10,000 songs that were not 
 purchased from iTunes, will either be matched with their respective title 
 in the iTunes world or just uploaded to your private iTunes Match space.  
 If 5,000 of those non-purchased songs can actually be matched with songs 
 in the iTunes world, then high quality versions of those can be 
 downloaded for free to your personal library.  If you do download the 
 high quality version, it is yours to keep.  The rest of the unmatchable 
 songs will remain the same as they are on your local machine and can be 
 streamed or downloaded to any of your devices at anytime that you have 
 access to the Internet.  As well, in this scenario, you’ve only used 
 10,000 of your 25,000 song limit, so, lots of room left for more.
 
 I find that the iTunes Match is especially useful on my iPhone.  There’s 
 no way the iPhone could hold the entire library, but I have full access 
 to it whenever I’m either connected to WiFi or to my cellular connection. 
  I place a couple hundred of my more favourite songs on specific 
 playlists and download those onto my iPhone for listening when I’m not 
 connected, such as on an airplane or off in no-man’s land where there’s 
 no cell signal.
 
 HTH.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jan 8, 2015, at 13:02, Kliph kliphzkor...@icloud.com 
 mailto:kliphzkor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 So let me get this straight.  I was told if your music in your iTunes 
 library is already in the match data base, that it does not count 
 against your 25 thousand count limit, only songs that match cannot find 
 are counted against you?  Do I have it correct?  So for example, I have 
 over 250 thousand songs in my iTunes library, if 10 thousand of them 
 can’t be found, that is all that will be counted against my limit?  
 Someone please clarify.
 Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV?  New user and want quick 
 efficient answers?  Or maybe you know apple products and want to 
 contribute?  Then come join a list where questions are always answered, 
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 On Jan 8, 2015, at 9:29 AM, Alex Hall 

Re: iTunes Match: do you keep matched tracks after your Match ends?

[Tim Kilburn]

Oops, I read over Kliph’s scenario again, and I misunderstood it originally.  
In either case, my explanation stands correct.

Sorry for any confusion.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 On Jan 8, 2015, at 16:51, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Kliph,
 
 If I’m understanding your example correctly, then you’re correct.
 
 EG:
 
 250,000 songs - Kliph’s total music library.
 240,000 songs - Purchased from iTunes
 10,000 - Ripped from personal music collection.
 
 Therefore, with an iTunes Match subscription, the 240,000 purchased songs are 
 available in the Cloud whether you have iTunes Match or not, so they are not 
 counted towards the maximum.  The 10,000 songs that were not purchased from 
 iTunes, will either be matched with their respective title in the iTunes 
 world or just uploaded to your private iTunes Match space.  If 5,000 of those 
 non-purchased songs can actually be matched with songs in the iTunes world, 
 then high quality versions of those can be downloaded for free to your 
 personal library.  If you do download the high quality version, it is yours 
 to keep.  The rest of the unmatchable songs will remain the same as they are 
 on your local machine and can be streamed or downloaded to any of your 
 devices at anytime that you have access to the Internet.  As well, in this 
 scenario, you’ve only used 10,000 of your 25,000 song limit, so, lots of room 
 left for more.
 
 I find that the iTunes Match is especially useful on my iPhone.  There’s no 
 way the iPhone could hold the entire library, but I have full access to it 
 whenever I’m either connected to WiFi or to my cellular connection.  I place 
 a couple hundred of my more favourite songs on specific playlists and 
 download those onto my iPhone for listening when I’m not connected, such as 
 on an airplane or off in no-man’s land where there’s no cell signal.
 
 HTH.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jan 8, 2015, at 13:02, Kliph kliphzkor...@icloud.com 
 mailto:kliphzkor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 So let me get this straight.  I was told if your music in your iTunes 
 library is already in the match data base, that it does not count against 
 your 25 thousand count limit, only songs that match cannot find are counted 
 against you?  Do I have it correct?  So for example, I have over 250 
 thousand songs in my iTunes library, if 10 thousand of them can’t be found, 
 that is all that will be counted against my limit?  Someone please clarify.
 Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV?  New user and want quick 
 efficient answers?  Or maybe you know apple products and want to contribute? 
  Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are 
 always patient with you.
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 On Jan 8, 2015, at 9:29 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Okay, thanks, that makes sense and is about what I figured. I'm still not 
 sure if Match is worth the price for me, especially when I could spend less 
 and just expand my iCloud storage, then dump my music on that instead.
 On Jan 8, 2015, at 12:18 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com 
 mailto:kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Matched are considered different than Purchased to iTunes, so those 
 Matched items you’ve downloaded to the local machine will remain yours to 
 use and only Purchased media will be available from the Cloud if you 
 discontinue.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jan 7, 2015, at 20:47, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Thanks. I'm guessing files it can't match will no longer be based in the 
 cloud if you cancel, correct? But that you keep matched content is good 
 to know, I just wonder if you only keep it locally or if it is still 
 available in your cloud-based library (read, purchase history). 
 On Jan 7, 2015, at 8:06 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com 
 mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   iTunes match will basically copy everything you have in your iTunes 
 library that is available in the iTunes store. If you have tracks that 
 are not available in the iTunes store, it will upload a copy to your 
 iCloud library.
 
   Once you have Match, you can choose to download better versions of the 
 tracks that ou have in your library. You keep those even if you choose 
 to cancel the service.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com http://www.macfortheblind.com/
 
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 

Re: iTunes Match: do you keep matched tracks after your Match ends?

[Faisal ali]

In other words, if your entire music collection IE 400 000 songs are all 
matched in the iTunes store, you will only have access to 25000 per year?
 On Jan 8, 2015, at 3:54 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Oops, I read over Kliph’s scenario again, and I misunderstood it originally.  
 In either case, my explanation stands correct.
 
 Sorry for any confusion.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jan 8, 2015, at 16:51, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com 
 mailto:kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Kliph,
 
 If I’m understanding your example correctly, then you’re correct.
 
 EG:
 
 250,000 songs - Kliph’s total music library.
 240,000 songs - Purchased from iTunes
 10,000 - Ripped from personal music collection.
 
 Therefore, with an iTunes Match subscription, the 240,000 purchased songs 
 are available in the Cloud whether you have iTunes Match or not, so they are 
 not counted towards the maximum.  The 10,000 songs that were not purchased 
 from iTunes, will either be matched with their respective title in the 
 iTunes world or just uploaded to your private iTunes Match space.  If 5,000 
 of those non-purchased songs can actually be matched with songs in the 
 iTunes world, then high quality versions of those can be downloaded for free 
 to your personal library.  If you do download the high quality version, it 
 is yours to keep.  The rest of the unmatchable songs will remain the same as 
 they are on your local machine and can be streamed or downloaded to any of 
 your devices at anytime that you have access to the Internet.  As well, in 
 this scenario, you’ve only used 10,000 of your 25,000 song limit, so, lots 
 of room left for more.
 
 I find that the iTunes Match is especially useful on my iPhone.  There’s no 
 way the iPhone could hold the entire library, but I have full access to it 
 whenever I’m either connected to WiFi or to my cellular connection.  I place 
 a couple hundred of my more favourite songs on specific playlists and 
 download those onto my iPhone for listening when I’m not connected, such as 
 on an airplane or off in no-man’s land where there’s no cell signal.
 
 HTH.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jan 8, 2015, at 13:02, Kliph kliphzkor...@icloud.com 
 mailto:kliphzkor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 So let me get this straight.  I was told if your music in your iTunes 
 library is already in the match data base, that it does not count against 
 your 25 thousand count limit, only songs that match cannot find are counted 
 against you?  Do I have it correct?  So for example, I have over 250 
 thousand songs in my iTunes library, if 10 thousand of them can’t be found, 
 that is all that will be counted against my limit?  Someone please clarify.
 Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV?  New user and want quick 
 efficient answers?  Or maybe you know apple products and want to 
 contribute?  Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and 
 we are always patient with you.
 Subscribe here: peel-the-apple+subscr...@googlegroups.com 
 mailto:peel-the-apple+subscr...@googlegroups.com
 Short quick getting started Tutorials: http://peeltheapple.wordpress.com/ 
 http://peeltheapple.wordpress.com/
 Or just follow us on twitter https://twitter.com/PealTheApple 
 https://twitter.com/PealTheApple
 And ask your question there.  All are welcome!
 
 
 
 On Jan 8, 2015, at 9:29 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Okay, thanks, that makes sense and is about what I figured. I'm still not 
 sure if Match is worth the price for me, especially when I could spend 
 less and just expand my iCloud storage, then dump my music on that instead.
 On Jan 8, 2015, at 12:18 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com 
 mailto:kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Matched are considered different than Purchased to iTunes, so those 
 Matched items you’ve downloaded to the local machine will remain yours to 
 use and only Purchased media will be available from the Cloud if you 
 discontinue.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jan 7, 2015, at 20:47, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Thanks. I'm guessing files it can't match will no longer be based in the 
 cloud if you cancel, correct? But that you keep matched content is good 
 to know, I just wonder if you only keep it locally or if it is still 
 available in your cloud-based library (read, purchase history). 
 On Jan 7, 2015, at 8:06 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com 
 mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   iTunes match will basically copy everything you have in your iTunes 
 library that is available in the iTunes store. If you have tracks that 
 are not available in the iTunes store, it will upload a copy to your 
 iCloud library.
 
   Once you have Match, you can choose to download better versions of 
 the tracks that ou have in your library. You keep those even if you 
 choose to cancel the service.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John 

Re: iTunes Match: do you keep matched tracks after your Match ends?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Kliph,

If I’m understanding your example correctly, then you’re correct.

EG:

250,000 songs - Kliph’s total music library.
240,000 songs - Purchased from iTunes
10,000 - Ripped from personal music collection.

Therefore, with an iTunes Match subscription, the 240,000 purchased songs are 
available in the Cloud whether you have iTunes Match or not, so they are not 
counted towards the maximum.  The 10,000 songs that were not purchased from 
iTunes, will either be matched with their respective title in the iTunes world 
or just uploaded to your private iTunes Match space.  If 5,000 of those 
non-purchased songs can actually be matched with songs in the iTunes world, 
then high quality versions of those can be downloaded for free to your personal 
library.  If you do download the high quality version, it is yours to keep.  
The rest of the unmatchable songs will remain the same as they are on your 
local machine and can be streamed or downloaded to any of your devices at 
anytime that you have access to the Internet.  As well, in this scenario, 
you’ve only used 10,000 of your 25,000 song limit, so, lots of room left for 
more.

I find that the iTunes Match is especially useful on my iPhone.  There’s no way 
the iPhone could hold the entire library, but I have full access to it whenever 
I’m either connected to WiFi or to my cellular connection.  I place a couple 
hundred of my more favourite songs on specific playlists and download those 
onto my iPhone for listening when I’m not connected, such as on an airplane or 
off in no-man’s land where there’s no cell signal.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 On Jan 8, 2015, at 13:02, Kliph kliphzkor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 So let me get this straight.  I was told if your music in your iTunes library 
 is already in the match data base, that it does not count against your 25 
 thousand count limit, only songs that match cannot find are counted against 
 you?  Do I have it correct?  So for example, I have over 250 thousand songs 
 in my iTunes library, if 10 thousand of them can’t be found, that is all that 
 will be counted against my limit?  Someone please clarify.
 Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV?  New user and want quick 
 efficient answers?  Or maybe you know apple products and want to contribute?  
 Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are always 
 patient with you.
 Subscribe here: peel-the-apple+subscr...@googlegroups.com 
 mailto:peel-the-apple+subscr...@googlegroups.com
 Short quick getting started Tutorials: http://peeltheapple.wordpress.com/ 
 http://peeltheapple.wordpress.com/
 Or just follow us on twitter https://twitter.com/PealTheApple 
 https://twitter.com/PealTheApple
 And ask your question there.  All are welcome!
 
 
 
 On Jan 8, 2015, at 9:29 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Okay, thanks, that makes sense and is about what I figured. I'm still not 
 sure if Match is worth the price for me, especially when I could spend less 
 and just expand my iCloud storage, then dump my music on that instead.
 On Jan 8, 2015, at 12:18 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com 
 mailto:kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Matched are considered different than Purchased to iTunes, so those Matched 
 items you’ve downloaded to the local machine will remain yours to use and 
 only Purchased media will be available from the Cloud if you discontinue.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jan 7, 2015, at 20:47, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Thanks. I'm guessing files it can't match will no longer be based in the 
 cloud if you cancel, correct? But that you keep matched content is good to 
 know, I just wonder if you only keep it locally or if it is still 
 available in your cloud-based library (read, purchase history). 
 On Jan 7, 2015, at 8:06 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com 
 mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   iTunes match will basically copy everything you have in your iTunes 
 library that is available in the iTunes store. If you have tracks that 
 are not available in the iTunes store, it will upload a copy to your 
 iCloud library.
 
   Once you have Match, you can choose to download better versions of the 
 tracks that ou have in your library. You keep those even if you choose to 
 cancel the service.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com http://www.macfortheblind.com/
 
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 
 Mountain Lion
 
 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
 
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
 
 On Jan 7, 2015, at 7:58 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Quick question. If I got iTunes Match, it will upload all music I have 
 that iTunes doesn't, and 

Re: iTunes Match: do you keep matched tracks after your Match ends?

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Cliff, unfortunately it doesn't quite work like this. All the material 
you've purchased from the iTunes Store isn't counted against the 25,000 song 
limit, however everything else is, including material that iTunes has matched 
without the need for you to upload your copy.
25,000 songs is just a fraction of my music library, so I have to maintain a 
separate, smaller iTunes library for iTunes Match.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

 On 9/01/2015, at 9:02 am, Kliph kliphzkor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 So let me get this straight.  I was told if your music in your iTunes library 
 is already in the match data base, that it does not count against your 25 
 thousand count limit, only songs that match cannot find are counted against 
 you?  Do I have it correct?  So for example, I have over 250 thousand songs 
 in my iTunes library, if 10 thousand of them can’t be found, that is all that 
 will be counted against my limit?  Someone please clarify.
 Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV?  New user and want quick 
 efficient answers?  Or maybe you know apple products and want to contribute?  
 Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are always 
 patient with you.
 Subscribe here: peel-the-apple+subscr...@googlegroups.com 
 mailto:peel-the-apple+subscr...@googlegroups.com
 Short quick getting started Tutorials: http://peeltheapple.wordpress.com/ 
 http://peeltheapple.wordpress.com/
 Or just follow us on twitter https://twitter.com/PealTheApple 
 https://twitter.com/PealTheApple
 And ask your question there.  All are welcome!
 
 
 
 On Jan 8, 2015, at 9:29 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Okay, thanks, that makes sense and is about what I figured. I'm still not 
 sure if Match is worth the price for me, especially when I could spend less 
 and just expand my iCloud storage, then dump my music on that instead.
 On Jan 8, 2015, at 12:18 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com 
 mailto:kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Matched are considered different than Purchased to iTunes, so those Matched 
 items you’ve downloaded to the local machine will remain yours to use and 
 only Purchased media will be available from the Cloud if you discontinue.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jan 7, 2015, at 20:47, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Thanks. I'm guessing files it can't match will no longer be based in the 
 cloud if you cancel, correct? But that you keep matched content is good to 
 know, I just wonder if you only keep it locally or if it is still 
 available in your cloud-based library (read, purchase history). 
 On Jan 7, 2015, at 8:06 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com 
 mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   iTunes match will basically copy everything you have in your iTunes 
 library that is available in the iTunes store. If you have tracks that 
 are not available in the iTunes store, it will upload a copy to your 
 iCloud library.
 
   Once you have Match, you can choose to download better versions of the 
 tracks that ou have in your library. You keep those even if you choose to 
 cancel the service.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com http://www.macfortheblind.com/
 
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 
 Mountain Lion
 
 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
 
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
 
 On Jan 7, 2015, at 7:58 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Quick question. If I got iTunes Match, it will upload all music I have 
 that iTunes doesn't, and match music it does have, essentially 
 considering the matched songs purchased. If I discontinue Match after 
 the first year, would I keep the matched music? That is, after I stop 
 using Match, will that music still be considered purchased in my 
 account? Thanks.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: iTunes Match: do you keep matched tracks after your Match ends?

[Alex Hall]

Okay, thanks, that makes sense and is about what I figured. I'm still not sure 
if Match is worth the price for me, especially when I could spend less and just 
expand my iCloud storage, then dump my music on that instead.
 On Jan 8, 2015, at 12:18 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Matched are considered different than Purchased to iTunes, so those Matched 
 items you’ve downloaded to the local machine will remain yours to use and 
 only Purchased media will be available from the Cloud if you discontinue.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jan 7, 2015, at 20:47, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Thanks. I'm guessing files it can't match will no longer be based in the 
 cloud if you cancel, correct? But that you keep matched content is good to 
 know, I just wonder if you only keep it locally or if it is still available 
 in your cloud-based library (read, purchase history). 
 On Jan 7, 2015, at 8:06 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com 
 mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   iTunes match will basically copy everything you have in your iTunes 
 library that is available in the iTunes store. If you have tracks that are 
 not available in the iTunes store, it will upload a copy to your iCloud 
 library.
 
   Once you have Match, you can choose to download better versions of the 
 tracks that ou have in your library. You keep those even if you choose to 
 cancel the service.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com http://www.macfortheblind.com/
 
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 Mountain Lion
 
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 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
 
 On Jan 7, 2015, at 7:58 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Quick question. If I got iTunes Match, it will upload all music I have 
 that iTunes doesn't, and match music it does have, essentially 
 considering the matched songs purchased. If I discontinue Match after the 
 first year, would I keep the matched music? That is, after I stop using 
 Match, will that music still be considered purchased in my account? Thanks.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: iTunes Match: do you keep matched tracks after your Match ends?

[Kliph]

So let me get this straight.  I was told if your music in your iTunes library 
is already in the match data base, that it does not count against your 25 
thousand count limit, only songs that match cannot find are counted against 
you?  Do I have it correct?  So for example, I have over 250 thousand songs in 
my iTunes library, if 10 thousand of them can’t be found, that is all that will 
be counted against my limit?  Someone please clarify.
Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV?  New user and want quick 
efficient answers?  Or maybe you know apple products and want to contribute?  
Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are always 
patient with you.
Subscribe here: peel-the-apple+subscr...@googlegroups.com 
mailto:peel-the-apple+subscr...@googlegroups.com
Short quick getting started Tutorials: http://peeltheapple.wordpress.com/ 
http://peeltheapple.wordpress.com/
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https://twitter.com/PealTheApple
And ask your question there.  All are welcome!



 On Jan 8, 2015, at 9:29 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Okay, thanks, that makes sense and is about what I figured. I'm still not 
 sure if Match is worth the price for me, especially when I could spend less 
 and just expand my iCloud storage, then dump my music on that instead.
 On Jan 8, 2015, at 12:18 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com 
 mailto:kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Matched are considered different than Purchased to iTunes, so those Matched 
 items you’ve downloaded to the local machine will remain yours to use and 
 only Purchased media will be available from the Cloud if you discontinue.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jan 7, 2015, at 20:47, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Thanks. I'm guessing files it can't match will no longer be based in the 
 cloud if you cancel, correct? But that you keep matched content is good to 
 know, I just wonder if you only keep it locally or if it is still available 
 in your cloud-based library (read, purchase history). 
 On Jan 7, 2015, at 8:06 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com 
 mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   iTunes match will basically copy everything you have in your iTunes 
 library that is available in the iTunes store. If you have tracks that are 
 not available in the iTunes store, it will upload a copy to your iCloud 
 library.
 
   Once you have Match, you can choose to download better versions of the 
 tracks that ou have in your library. You keep those even if you choose to 
 cancel the service.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com http://www.macfortheblind.com/
 
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 
 Mountain Lion
 
 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
 
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
 
 On Jan 7, 2015, at 7:58 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Quick question. If I got iTunes Match, it will upload all music I have 
 that iTunes doesn't, and match music it does have, essentially 
 considering the matched songs purchased. If I discontinue Match after the 
 first year, would I keep the matched music? That is, after I stop using 
 Match, will that music still be considered purchased in my account? 
 Thanks.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: iTunes Match: do you keep matched tracks after your Match ends?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Matched are considered different than Purchased to iTunes, so those Matched 
items you’ve downloaded to the local machine will remain yours to use and only 
Purchased media will be available from the Cloud if you discontinue.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 On Jan 7, 2015, at 20:47, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Thanks. I'm guessing files it can't match will no longer be based in the 
 cloud if you cancel, correct? But that you keep matched content is good to 
 know, I just wonder if you only keep it locally or if it is still available 
 in your cloud-based library (read, purchase history). 
 On Jan 7, 2015, at 8:06 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com 
 mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   iTunes match will basically copy everything you have in your iTunes 
 library that is available in the iTunes store. If you have tracks that are 
 not available in the iTunes store, it will upload a copy to your iCloud 
 library.
 
   Once you have Match, you can choose to download better versions of the 
 tracks that ou have in your library. You keep those even if you choose to 
 cancel the service.
 
 
 Take Care
 
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 Quick question. If I got iTunes Match, it will upload all music I have that 
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 I keep the matched music? That is, after I stop using Match, will that 
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Re: iTunes Match: do you keep matched tracks after your Match ends?

[Alex Hall]

Thanks. I'm guessing files it can't match will no longer be based in the cloud 
if you cancel, correct? But that you keep matched content is good to know, I 
just wonder if you only keep it locally or if it is still available in your 
cloud-based library (read, purchase history). 
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   iTunes match will basically copy everything you have in your iTunes library 
 that is available in the iTunes store. If you have tracks that are not 
 available in the iTunes store, it will upload a copy to your iCloud library.
 
   Once you have Match, you can choose to download better versions of the 
 tracks that ou have in your library. You keep those even if you choose to 
 cancel the service.
 
 
 Take Care
 
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 On Jan 7, 2015, at 7:58 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Quick question. If I got iTunes Match, it will upload all music I have that 
 iTunes doesn't, and match music it does have, essentially considering the 
 matched songs purchased. If I discontinue Match after the first year, would 
 I keep the matched music? That is, after I stop using Match, will that music 
 still be considered purchased in my account? Thanks.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: iTunes Match: do you keep matched tracks after your Match ends?

[Brandon A. Olivares]

I don’t think you keep it in the cloud. My wife had an inactive subscription 
for a year, and when she activated it again, none of her music was there, or 
else we just don’t know how to access it.

 On Jan 7, 2015, at 10:47 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Thanks. I'm guessing files it can't match will no longer be based in the 
 cloud if you cancel, correct? But that you keep matched content is good to 
 know, I just wonder if you only keep it locally or if it is still available 
 in your cloud-based library (read, purchase history). 
 On Jan 7, 2015, at 8:06 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com 
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   iTunes match will basically copy everything you have in your iTunes 
 library that is available in the iTunes store. If you have tracks that are 
 not available in the iTunes store, it will upload a copy to your iCloud 
 library.
 
   Once you have Match, you can choose to download better versions of the 
 tracks that ou have in your library. You keep those even if you choose to 
 cancel the service.
 
 
 Take Care
 
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 Director
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 Quick question. If I got iTunes Match, it will upload all music I have that 
 iTunes doesn't, and match music it does have, essentially considering the 
 matched songs purchased. If I discontinue Match after the first year, would 
 I keep the matched music? That is, after I stop using Match, will that 
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Re: iTunes Match: do you keep matched tracks after your Match ends?

[John Panarese]

   iTunes match will basically copy everything you have in your iTunes library 
that is available in the iTunes store. If you have tracks that are not 
available in the iTunes store, it will upload a copy to your iCloud library.

   Once you have Match, you can choose to download better versions of the 
tracks that ou have in your library. You keep those even if you choose to 
cancel the service.


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 On Jan 7, 2015, at 7:58 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Quick question. If I got iTunes Match, it will upload all music I have that 
 iTunes doesn't, and match music it does have, essentially considering the 
 matched songs purchased. If I discontinue Match after the first year, would I 
 keep the matched music? That is, after I stop using Match, will that music 
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Re: iTunes Match: download high quality music.

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

First,  make sure that “Show iTunes Purchases in the Cloud” is checked from the 
Store pane of iTunes Preferences.  Next, from the Music table, not a Playlist 
table, locate the song/songs you wish to upgrade.  Press Backspace or Delete on 
each of the songs making sure to read the dialog that appears to ensure that 
the checkbox that asks if you wish them to be deleted from the Cloud is not 
checked.  Once they have all been removed, the Download option should appear 
and you can download the higher quality version if it exists.  If it does not, 
the same version of the song will be dowloaded right back to your Mac.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 On Dec 21, 2014, at 12:04, Gabriele Battaglia iz4...@libero.it wrote:
 
 Hello all.
 I’ve subscribed the iTunes Match from Apple.
 Recently I’ve added new tracks to my music library, on iTunes last release. 
 Those are 128 KBPS mp3 file. They have been send to the cloud and paired.
 Now I would like to download from the cloud the HQ version of my mp3, those 
 which are encoded at 256 KBPS but the Download is no longer present within 
 the contextual menu.
 How to do it?
 
 Thanks.
 Gabriel.
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Re: iTunes Match question

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

I doubt very much that track numbers will ever factor into iTunes Match 
matching.  As long as the details of the track are reasonable, i.e. including 
album and name, you should be all right.  The bulk of the work of identifying a 
song is actually down to the sound data itself, and not the file metadata.

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Re: Itunes Match Query

[Lee Jones]

Hi, thanks for the info for some reason I didn't receive Tim's e-mail.  Do I 
understand correctly that idevices automatically use matched versions when they 
are  available, but the  mac versions have to be deleted and re-downloaded?  
Also I can't find an icloud download button on the idevice.  I read online that 
the device only downloads the files if the music is played or downloaded.  Does 
this mean if I play an album from icloud it is automatically downloaded onto 
the device for good, or just temporarily?

Kind Regards Lee
On 27 Jun 2014, at 05:57, Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote:

 Just to add to what Tim's said, it's important to realise that iTunes never, 
 ever replaces your existing songs with matched copies, even when the local 
 copy is of lower quality.  You would have to delete the copy in iTunes and 
 redownload in order to obtain the 256K AAC versions.
 
 I use iTunes match, but do not replace my local rips in iTunes with the 
 copies on Apple's servers.  But, with Match enabled on iOS, I am making use 
 of the highest-quality versions available through Match.  I could not simply 
 sync them, because my rips are all lossless, and the library would be too 
 large.
 
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Re: Itunes Match Query

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Basically, yes.  When you turn on Match on iOS, you can consider any storage 
for music to be essentially dispensable and ephemeral.  There is a download 
button for albums and songs that are not yet on the device, so that you can 
grab stuff before you go, but at all other times it's just streamed when you 
ask for it, and then cached.  Full details here:
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht5637

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Re: Itunes Match Query

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

It depends on how those items were synced to the iDevice.  If they were brought 
down from iCloud to the iDevice, then they'll be iTunes quality songs.  If they 
were sent over to the iDevice before they were matched using iTunes, then they 
will be of whatever quality they were to begin with.  If the latter is the 
case, then deleting them directly on your iDevice, then re-downloading will do 
the trick.  The only concern here would be, how many you'd have to delete 
manually.  A large number would be extremely tedious.  There are ways around 
that as well, but I'll worry about that if you need it.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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 Dear List, if you add lower quality mp3s to your itunes library on a mac, 
 with itunes match turned on and the files appear on an idevice on the same 
 apple id with itunes match also turned on, are the files automatically 
 matched or do they still have to be deleted on the mac and re-downloaded 
 first.
 
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Re: Itunes Match Query

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Just to add to what Tim's said, it's important to realise that iTunes never, 
ever replaces your existing songs with matched copies, even when the local copy 
is of lower quality.  You would have to delete the copy in iTunes and 
redownload in order to obtain the 256K AAC versions.

I use iTunes match, but do not replace my local rips in iTunes with the copies 
on Apple's servers.  But, with Match enabled on iOS, I am making use of the 
highest-quality versions available through Match.  I could not simply sync 
them, because my rips are all lossless, and the library would be too large.

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Re: Itunes Match not working on Mac

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

It works perfectly for me across multiple devices.  Have you Quit and restarted 
iTunes?  Totally restarted your Mac?  Since you have likely followed its 
suggestion of signing out of iTunes Match then back in, try signing out, 
restarting the Mac then signing back in.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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 Dear List, I subscribed to itunes match, and am trying to get my library 
 matched, but I keep getting told that itunes match encountered a problem and 
 that I need to sign out and sign back in before trying again.  After lots of 
 tries I'm getting frustrated.  Has anyone got this to work, and is there 
 anything obvious that I could be doing wrong?
 
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Re: ITunes Match verses Sound Cloud

[Nektarios Mallas]

Hello.
I don’t realy understand what you are talking about here.
Sound cloud and Itunes match are 2 totally unrelated services. Really, nothing 
similar, nothing to compare or discuss here.

Regards.
Nektarios.

On Nov 20, 2013, at 8:25 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:

 To those of y’all who are using ITunes Match.  Do any of you have any 
 experience with something called Sound Cloud?  What, if any, are the 
 advantages of one verses the other?  Thanks.
 
 
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Re: ITunes Match verses Sound Cloud

[Ray Foret Jr]

Okay, well, that mostly answers it.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Nov 20, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Nektarios Mallas nmal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello.
 I don’t realy understand what you are talking about here.
 Sound cloud and Itunes match are 2 totally unrelated services. Really, 
 nothing similar, nothing to compare or discuss here.
 
 Regards.
 Nektarios.
 
 On Nov 20, 2013, at 8:25 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 To those of y’all who are using ITunes Match.  Do any of you have any 
 experience with something called Sound Cloud?  What, if any, are the 
 advantages of one verses the other?  Thanks.
 
 
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Re: ITunes Match verses Sound Cloud

[Teresa Cochran]

Sound Cloud is a social app for posting sound effects and music projects. 
iTunes Match allows you to download music from your library from iTunes that 
might be complete or have a higher bit-rate. I haven’t used the app called 
sound Flower, but that one might be a different matter entirely.

HtH,
Teresa

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dark to read.--Groucho Marx

On Nov 20, 2013, at 11:50 AM, Nektarios Mallas nmal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello.
 I don’t realy understand what you are talking about here.
 Sound cloud and Itunes match are 2 totally unrelated services. Really, 
 nothing similar, nothing to compare or discuss here.
 
 Regards.
 Nektarios.
 
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 experience with something called Sound Cloud?  What, if any, are the 
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Re: iTunes Match And Problem With Apple Store

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Yes and no.  since you have an iMac, it only runs on power.  Sorry for the 
assumption.  Follow the same instructions but you won't need to click on the 
Power Adaptor tab.  Make sure that you only adjust the Computer Sleep area, not 
the Display Sleep slider.  If this does the trick, you can put it back to its 
original settings after the Matching has finished.  Subsequent iTunes Matches 
only take less than a minute.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-10-12, at 9:13 PM, Desi Noller desi.nol...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Tim,
 
 I am using an iMac.  Would I follow the same procedure you outlined?  Thanks!
 
 Desi
 
 
 
 On Oct 12, 2013, at 12:24 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 No, I've not had that error in a long, long time.  Is your computer set to 
 go to sleep after so many minutes of inactivity?  I'm wondering if it is 
 doing so and thus losing your connection.  Try going into System 
 Preferences, Energy Saver and select the Power Adaptor tab.  Tell it that 
 you don't want the Computer to Sleep while the Power Adaptor is active.  Do 
 this by Interacting with the Slider connected with the Computer Sleep in the 
 Power Adaptor pane, then VO-right arrow until VO announces Never.  Leave 
 the other sliders alone and this will make it so that your computer does not 
 sleep when plugged into power.  The screen will still dim but the computer 
 will not sleep.  As long as you only set things this way in the Power 
 Adaptor pane, it will not affect the Battery settings and thus not affect 
 battery life.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2013-10-12, at 1:09 PM, Desi Noller desi.nol...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Again Everyone,
 
 My iTunes Match saga continues!  Anna was certainly right that not all of 
 my songs had been uploaded, but beyond that, there is apparently something 
 amiss still because I keep getting an error message that says my connection 
 has been lost and that there is a problem in the Apple Store.  Has anyone 
 else encountered this?  I apparently still have 584 songs to go.  I guess 
 it's not anything wrong on my end, but I sure wish it could be resolved 
 quickly!  I'd like to get this project done!
 
 Desi
 
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Re: iTunes Match And Problem With Apple Store

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Hi,

No, I've not had that error in a long, long time.  Is your computer set to go 
to sleep after so many minutes of inactivity?  I'm wondering if it is doing so 
and thus losing your connection.  Try going into System Preferences, Energy 
Saver and select the Power Adaptor tab.  Tell it that you don't want the 
Computer to Sleep while the Power Adaptor is active.  Do this by Interacting 
with the Slider connected with the Computer Sleep in the Power Adaptor pane, 
then VO-right arrow until VO announces Never.  Leave the other sliders alone 
and this will make it so that your computer does not sleep when plugged into 
power.  The screen will still dim but the computer will not sleep.  As long as 
you only set things this way in the Power Adaptor pane, it will not affect the 
Battery settings and thus not affect battery life.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-10-12, at 1:09 PM, Desi Noller desi.nol...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Again Everyone,
 
 My iTunes Match saga continues!  Anna was certainly right that not all of my 
 songs had been uploaded, but beyond that, there is apparently something amiss 
 still because I keep getting an error message that says my connection has 
 been lost and that there is a problem in the Apple Store.  Has anyone else 
 encountered this?  I apparently still have 584 songs to go.  I guess it's not 
 anything wrong on my end, but I sure wish it could be resolved quickly!  I'd 
 like to get this project done!
 
 Desi
 
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Re: iTunes Match And Problem With Apple Store

[Desi Noller]

Hi Tim,

I am using an iMac.  Would I follow the same procedure you outlined?  Thanks!

Desi



On Oct 12, 2013, at 12:24 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 No, I've not had that error in a long, long time.  Is your computer set to go 
 to sleep after so many minutes of inactivity?  I'm wondering if it is doing 
 so and thus losing your connection.  Try going into System Preferences, 
 Energy Saver and select the Power Adaptor tab.  Tell it that you don't want 
 the Computer to Sleep while the Power Adaptor is active.  Do this by 
 Interacting with the Slider connected with the Computer Sleep in the Power 
 Adaptor pane, then VO-right arrow until VO announces Never.  Leave the 
 other sliders alone and this will make it so that your computer does not 
 sleep when plugged into power.  The screen will still dim but the computer 
 will not sleep.  As long as you only set things this way in the Power Adaptor 
 pane, it will not affect the Battery settings and thus not affect battery 
 life.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2013-10-12, at 1:09 PM, Desi Noller desi.nol...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Again Everyone,
 
 My iTunes Match saga continues!  Anna was certainly right that not all of my 
 songs had been uploaded, but beyond that, there is apparently something 
 amiss still because I keep getting an error message that says my connection 
 has been lost and that there is a problem in the Apple Store.  Has anyone 
 else encountered this?  I apparently still have 584 songs to go.  I guess 
 it's not anything wrong on my end, but I sure wish it could be resolved 
 quickly!  I'd like to get this project done!
 
 Desi
 
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Re: iTunes Match Question

[Charlie Doremus]

Try downloading the dimmed songs from the cloud. the cloud is on the right side 
of the screen

Aloha,

Charlie 

 On Oct 11, 2013, at 6:16 AM, Desi Noller desi.nol...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Everybody,
 
 I subscribed to iTunes Match recently and mostly I'm loving it, but I'm 
 wondering if some more experienced users can help me with something.  I chose 
 an album of one of my favorite artists to play while I was exercising, but 
 some of the song titles seem to be dimmed and when I start playing the album, 
 the dimmed titles are skipped.  All of my music is legitimate and all of the 
 songs are listed, but I'm wondering what could be going on here, and how I 
 can get the dimmed song titles to be active?  Can someone help?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Desi
 
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Re: iTunes Match Questions

[Desi Noller]

Thanks Jonathan,

My music collection isn't quite that big, so no worries there!  I look forward 
to trying it out!  Thanks for the encouragement!

Desi



On Sep 30, 2013, at 3:58 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:

 Hi Desi, you should be able to sign up from the Store Menu of iTunes. I like 
 iTunes Match a lot, my only complaint is the 25,000 song limit, which means 
 that I can't upload my entire music library. The limit does not apply to 
 content you purchased through iTunes though.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org
 
 On 1/10/2013, at 11:17 AM, Desi Noller desi.nol...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Everyone,
 
 I have been considering signing up for iTunes Match, but I am a little 
 reluctant because I am Technologically challenged!  LOL!  My track record is 
 something like this.  Every time someone tells me that installing something 
 on my computer or performing some transaction is the easiest thing ever, I 
 run the other way, because nothing ever seems to work for me the way it does 
 for everyone else!  I don't know if I'm jinxed or what, but what should be a 
 5-minute project usually becomes an all day affair!  Having said this, what 
 does one have to do to sign up for iTunes Match?  Are those of you who use 
 this service happy with it?  Are there certain settings that should be 
 monitored on a periodic basis?  Thanks so much for any information you can 
 pass along!  I have a music collection that spans many years, and I would 
 like to insure its safety.  Incidentally, does anyone else find iTunes 
 confusing to use?  I should add that I have an iMac running the latest 
 version of Mountain Lion and iTunes both.
 
 Desi
 
 
 
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Re: iTunes Match questions

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

If you're purchasing these items through the iTunes Store, then they are 
automatically available to all your devices whether you have iTunes Match or 
not.  Simply go under the iTunes Preferences, select the Store pane and check 
the box for Show iTunes in the Cloud Purchases.  When this is checked, all 
media purchased through the iTunes Store is available to you to stream or 
quickly download to any device under the same Apple ID.  At the moment, iTunes 
Match is only used for non-Tunes Store purchased music files.  If you have a 
large collection of music files that you've ripped from CDs and such, then 
these are not considered iTunes Store purchased items, even though you 
purchased the physical CD.  One of the big benefits of iTunes Match is the 
ability to upgrade the quality of your personally ripped music.  That is, if 
iTunes is able to match songs that you have within your Library with songs that 
are available from the Store, you are able to download the better quality 
version to your personal devices with the iTunes Match subscription.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-10-01, at 12:18 PM, Helena Fehr helena.torch.li...@gmail.com wrote:

 Someone, please correct me if I'm wrong, but one thing i found when I signed 
 up for iTunes match was that it only downloaded my music library, and no 
 audiobooks or movies, or anything else i might have in my iTunes library, and 
 since at the time I listened more to audiobooks than music, I found it pretty 
 useless. I thought when I read the information, it was supposed to download 
 my entire iTunes library, and I spent a pile of money I shouldn't have spent 
 on getting the largest amount I could with iClout so that my stuff would all 
 fit, and then I could only put my music on there, but nothing else. I was 
 pretty frustrated with it. I've found that the best way to keep my music safe 
 has been for me to set iTunes up so that it views a table-list of all my 
 songs, select the whole lot of them, and copy/paste them into a folder on an 
 external hard-drive. I did the same with my movies and books, and anything 
 else I cared about losing or might want to have on both my computers. For me, 
 that's as good as iTunes Match, but I don't have to pay any money except to 
 initially buy the external hard-drive, and now I have iTunes on both my Mac 
 and on my PC, and both my computers are authorized with my iTunes account so 
 that no matter where i purchase anything new, it'll automatically appear on 
 all my devices. It takes time to set up, but at least I have all my music 
 (And all my audiobooks) on all my devices.
 God Bless!!!
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Re: iTunes Match Questions

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Desi, you should be able to sign up from the Store Menu of iTunes. I like 
iTunes Match a lot, my only complaint is the 25,000 song limit, which means 
that I can't upload my entire music library. The limit does not apply to 
content you purchased through iTunes though.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

On 1/10/2013, at 11:17 AM, Desi Noller desi.nol...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Everyone,
 
 I have been considering signing up for iTunes Match, but I am a little 
 reluctant because I am Technologically challenged!  LOL!  My track record is 
 something like this.  Every time someone tells me that installing something 
 on my computer or performing some transaction is the easiest thing ever, I 
 run the other way, because nothing ever seems to work for me the way it does 
 for everyone else!  I don't know if I'm jinxed or what, but what should be a 
 5-minute project usually becomes an all day affair!  Having said this, what 
 does one have to do to sign up for iTunes Match?  Are those of you who use 
 this service happy with it?  Are there certain settings that should be 
 monitored on a periodic basis?  Thanks so much for any information you can 
 pass along!  I have a music collection that spans many years, and I would 
 like to insure its safety.  Incidentally, does anyone else find iTunes 
 confusing to use?  I should add that I have an iMac running the latest 
 version of Mountain Lion and iTunes both.
 
 Desi
 
 
 
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Re: iTunes match

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi:
I had to resend it. He received it on the second go around.
On Jun 16, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hmmm.  I've only did the Gift Certificate thing once or twice and don't 
 remember exactly how long it took for the recipient to receive it.  I thought 
 that it was more or less instantaneous other than if you were specific about 
 when it was to be sent.
 
 The iTunes Store should send you a receipt for the gift too.  Wait a little 
 bit then if they don't receive anything, give the iTunes Store Support number 
 a call.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2013-06-16, at 9:01 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I purchased a gift cirtificut, and he hasn't received it yet.
 On Jun 15, 2013, at 11:30 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I don't believe so, but you can purchase a Gift Certificate through the 
 iTunes Store that is eMailed to the recipient.  The Gift Certificate 
 usually can be used for anything in the iTunes or App Stores and thus be 
 able to be used for iTunes Match subscriptions since it just is a charge to 
 your Apple ID account.
 
 Later...
 
 On 2013-06-15, at 2:46 PM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Don't think so I haven't seen the option to send it as a gift.
 
 
 Chris
 
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 Does anyone know if you can gift an iTunes match subscription?
 
 
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Re: iTunes match

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

I purchased a gift cirtificut, and he hasn't received it yet.
On Jun 15, 2013, at 11:30 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I don't believe so, but you can purchase a Gift Certificate through the 
 iTunes Store that is eMailed to the recipient.  The Gift Certificate usually 
 can be used for anything in the iTunes or App Stores and thus be able to be 
 used for iTunes Match subscriptions since it just is a charge to your Apple 
 ID account.
 
 Later...
 
 On 2013-06-15, at 2:46 PM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Don't think so I haven't seen the option to send it as a gift.
 
 
 Chris
 
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 Does anyone know if you can gift an iTunes match subscription?
 
 
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Re: iTunes match

[Tim Kilburn]

Hmmm.  I've only did the Gift Certificate thing once or twice and don't 
remember exactly how long it took for the recipient to receive it.  I thought 
that it was more or less instantaneous other than if you were specific about 
when it was to be sent.

The iTunes Store should send you a receipt for the gift too.  Wait a little bit 
then if they don't receive anything, give the iTunes Store Support number a 
call.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-06-16, at 9:01 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 I purchased a gift cirtificut, and he hasn't received it yet.
 On Jun 15, 2013, at 11:30 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I don't believe so, but you can purchase a Gift Certificate through the 
 iTunes Store that is eMailed to the recipient.  The Gift Certificate usually 
 can be used for anything in the iTunes or App Stores and thus be able to be 
 used for iTunes Match subscriptions since it just is a charge to your Apple 
 ID account.
 
 Later...
 
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 Don't think so I haven't seen the option to send it as a gift.
 
 
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Re: iTunes match

[Daniel Miller]

Hi,
No, it's not always instant. It can take up to a few hours. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 16, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hmmm.  I've only did the Gift Certificate thing once or twice and don't 
 remember exactly how long it took for the recipient to receive it.  I thought 
 that it was more or less instantaneous other than if you were specific about 
 when it was to be sent.
 
 The iTunes Store should send you a receipt for the gift too.  Wait a little 
 bit then if they don't receive anything, give the iTunes Store Support number 
 a call.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2013-06-16, at 9:01 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I purchased a gift cirtificut, and he hasn't received it yet.
 On Jun 15, 2013, at 11:30 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I don't believe so, but you can purchase a Gift Certificate through the 
 iTunes Store that is eMailed to the recipient.  The Gift Certificate 
 usually can be used for anything in the iTunes or App Stores and thus be 
 able to be used for iTunes Match subscriptions since it just is a charge to 
 your Apple ID account.
 
 Later...
 
 On 2013-06-15, at 2:46 PM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Don't think so I haven't seen the option to send it as a gift.
 
 
 Chris
 
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 Hi:
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Re: iTunes match question

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

When you delete songs from your local machine, a dialog will appear asking you 
if you wish to remove it from only the local machine or from iCloud as well.  
So, essentially, you can play all items that are in iTunes Match from the Cloud 
if you wish.  You'd just be using up data in the streaming process.  In most 
cases, though, the amount of data you'd use up is minimal.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-06-16, at 12:49 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 Just a quick question.  If I have iTunes match on, and a CD has been imported 
 into iTunes Match, what happens if I then delete that CD?  Does iTunes Match 
 still let me play the iCloud version?
 Thanks,
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Re: iTunes match question

[Donna Goodin]

OK, that's what I thought.  thanks for confirming.
Best,
Donna
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 Hi,
 
 When you delete songs from your local machine, a dialog will appear asking 
 you if you wish to remove it from only the local machine or from iCloud as 
 well.  So, essentially, you can play all items that are in iTunes Match from 
 the Cloud if you wish.  You'd just be using up data in the streaming process. 
  In most cases, though, the amount of data you'd use up is minimal.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2013-06-16, at 12:49 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Just a quick question.  If I have iTunes match on, and a CD has been 
 imported into iTunes Match, what happens if I then delete that CD?  Does 
 iTunes Match still let me play the iCloud version?
 Thanks,
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Re: iTunes match

[Chris H]

Don't think so I haven't seen the option to send it as a gift.


Chris

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Re: iTunes match

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

I don't believe so, but you can purchase a Gift Certificate through the iTunes 
Store that is eMailed to the recipient.  The Gift Certificate usually can be 
used for anything in the iTunes or App Stores and thus be able to be used for 
iTunes Match subscriptions since it just is a charge to your Apple ID account.

Later...

On 2013-06-15, at 2:46 PM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Don't think so I haven't seen the option to send it as a gift.
 
 
 Chris
 
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Re: itunes match content versus what's on my hard drive

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

When showing your Music Library in iTunes, press cmd-j to bring up your View 
Options.  Check the box that says iCloud Download.  This will put a new 
column in your Music Table that will read Local if it is stored locally, 
Needs Upload if it still needs uploaded to iCloud, Download if it is only 
in iCloud, Error if there was an error, and Ineligible if it is something 
that does not get stored in iCloud.  That could be things like Album covers and 
such.  If you sort things by that column, you can easily locate the items that 
are not Local which would possibly be the ones causing the number difference.

Later...

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 I wonder if there is a way to find out which songs did not get uploaded when 
 I subscribed to iTunes match. If I select the match radio button with music 
 selected in the sources table, I see that there are a certain number of 
 songs, 11 thousand some, that are available in the cloud. But if I go to the 
 songs radio button and select that, so it shows me what's on my hard drive in 
 the iTunes media for music, there are a couple hundred or so songs more that 
 didn't make it into the cloud. I have run a program called tune up, which is 
 suppose to find and eliminate duplicates. Actually, I got sighted help, since 
 the app isn't accessible with VO. So there shouldn't be any duplicate 
 records; I wonder what caused the difference in number of songs and how to 
 tell which didn't make the grade, so to speak.
 
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Re: itunes match and play lists

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Mary, yes, it stores playlists. In fact I can make a change on my phone, and 
see that change reflected on my Mac, Apple TV and iPad.
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 Does iTunes match store play lists? I was under the impression it stored your 
 music, but not play lists. I raise the issue in the context that some folks 
 have said they don't have music on their phones any more, since they can get 
 it from iTunes match. But if you have an extensive music library, and no way 
 of having playlists, iTunes match would seem kind of clunky with respect to 
 coming up with nice mixes of various artists etc. I must be missing something 
 here.
 
 Mary
 
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Re: itunes match and play lists

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Yes, iTunes Match stores playlists.  I have iTunes Match on multiple computers 
as well as on iDevices and the playlists sync perfectly.  In fact, my playlists 
are only within iTunes Match and iCloud.  So, when I modify the contents of a 
playlist on one machine, it changes those same things on every other machine.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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 Does iTunes match store play lists? I was under the impression it stored your 
 music, but not play lists. I raise the issue in the context that some folks 
 have said they don't have music on their phones any more, since they can get 
 it from iTunes match. But if you have an extensive music library, and no way 
 of having playlists, iTunes match would seem kind of clunky with respect to 
 coming up with nice mixes of various artists etc. I must be missing something 
 here.
 
 Mary
 
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Re: iTunes Match

[Shen]

Even if you have iTunes Match, you are not forced to stream music over the 
internet.
You can have iTunes Match turned on in iTunes in your computer, but have them 
turned off in your devices. If they are turned off in your devices, you will 
still sync them from your iTunes just like you normally do.
The advantage of having iTunes Match in iTunes is that any songs you add to 
your library, iTunes will check and see if it has a higher quality version 
available. If it is available, you can remove your copy and download the higher 
quality version from the iTunes Store.
Or you can still keep your version if you choose to.

On Dec 2, 2012, at 4:19 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 You can, especially if you have an iPod and want to listen somewhere you 
 don't have wifi. The big thing with Match is that it upgrades all your songs 
 to the highest-quality version it can, and it makes them available on all 
 your devices with no syncing necessary. Nothing says you still can't sync to 
 have local copies stored, but you can also download artists or albums (but 
 not individual songs) through the service right to your device.
 On Dec 1, 2012, at 8:19 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Oh, ok.
 So if you use itunes match you don't put music on your device? 
 On Dec 1, 2012, at 3:55 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:
 
 Let me correct a few things. If you're running iOS 6 or later, the songs
 aren't downloaded, but streamed. However, there's currently no way to
 download individual tracks, only albums or playlists.
 Second, the limit for non-iTunes store tracks is 25000, which can't be
 changed.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave
 Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 3:54 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iTunes Match
 
 Stacy,
 
 Essentially, iTunes Match allows you to upload your music to the cloud and
 have access to it via the cloud.
 
 When you decide to listen to a song, it's downloaded to your device and
 played.
 
 The match part of it is that when you upload your lib, iTunes Match will
 find the best recording of that particular song and artist and give you
 access to it.
 
 It's an annual subscription, and I think the first $24.99 covers 25000
 songs.
 
 Look here for more information.
 
 http://www.apple.com/itunes/itunes-match/
 
 Dave
 
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Re: iTunes Match

[Alex Hall]

You can, especially if you have an iPod and want to listen somewhere you don't 
have wifi. The big thing with Match is that it upgrades all your songs to the 
highest-quality version it can, and it makes them available on all your devices 
with no syncing necessary. Nothing says you still can't sync to have local 
copies stored, but you can also download artists or albums (but not individual 
songs) through the service right to your device.
On Dec 1, 2012, at 8:19 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Oh, ok.
 So if you use itunes match you don't put music on your device? 
 On Dec 1, 2012, at 3:55 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:
 
 Let me correct a few things. If you're running iOS 6 or later, the songs
 aren't downloaded, but streamed. However, there's currently no way to
 download individual tracks, only albums or playlists.
 Second, the limit for non-iTunes store tracks is 25000, which can't be
 changed.
 
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 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave
 Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 3:54 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iTunes Match
 
 Stacy,
 
 Essentially, iTunes Match allows you to upload your music to the cloud and
 have access to it via the cloud.
 
 When you decide to listen to a song, it's downloaded to your device and
 played.
 
 The match part of it is that when you upload your lib, iTunes Match will
 find the best recording of that particular song and artist and give you
 access to it.
 
 It's an annual subscription, and I think the first $24.99 covers 25000
 songs.
 
 Look here for more information.
 
 http://www.apple.com/itunes/itunes-match/
 
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Re: iTunes Match

[Dave]

Stacy,

Essentially, iTunes Match allows you to upload your music to the cloud and 
have access to it via the cloud.


When you decide to listen to a song, it's downloaded to your device and 
played.


The match part of it is that when you upload your lib, iTunes Match will 
find the best recording of that particular song and artist and give you 
access to it.


It's an annual subscription, and I think the first $24.99 covers 25000 
songs.


Look here for more information.

http://www.apple.com/itunes/itunes-match/

Dave

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RE: iTunes Match

[Daniel Miller]

Let me correct a few things. If you're running iOS 6 or later, the songs
aren't downloaded, but streamed. However, there's currently no way to
download individual tracks, only albums or playlists.
Second, the limit for non-iTunes store tracks is 25000, which can't be
changed.

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Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 3:54 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes Match

Stacy,

Essentially, iTunes Match allows you to upload your music to the cloud and
have access to it via the cloud.

When you decide to listen to a song, it's downloaded to your device and
played.

The match part of it is that when you upload your lib, iTunes Match will
find the best recording of that particular song and artist and give you
access to it.

It's an annual subscription, and I think the first $24.99 covers 25000
songs.

Look here for more information.

http://www.apple.com/itunes/itunes-match/

Dave

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Re: iTunes Match

[Stacey Robinson]

Dave,
Your description was great, I might have to consider that for my birthday.
On Dec 1, 2012, at 3:53 PM, Dave wrote:

 Stacy,
 
 Essentially, iTunes Match allows you to upload your music to the cloud and 
 have access to it via the cloud.
 
 When you decide to listen to a song, it's downloaded to your device and 
 played.
 
 The match part of it is that when you upload your lib, iTunes Match will find 
 the best recording of that particular song and artist and give you access to 
 it.
 
 It's an annual subscription, and I think the first $24.99 covers 25000 songs.
 
 Look here for more information.
 
 http://www.apple.com/itunes/itunes-match/
 
 Dave
 
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Re: iTunes Match

[Stacey Robinson]

Oh, ok.
So if you use itunes match you don't put music on your device? 
On Dec 1, 2012, at 3:55 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:

 Let me correct a few things. If you're running iOS 6 or later, the songs
 aren't downloaded, but streamed. However, there's currently no way to
 download individual tracks, only albums or playlists.
 Second, the limit for non-iTunes store tracks is 25000, which can't be
 changed.
 
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 Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 3:54 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iTunes Match
 
 Stacy,
 
 Essentially, iTunes Match allows you to upload your music to the cloud and
 have access to it via the cloud.
 
 When you decide to listen to a song, it's downloaded to your device and
 played.
 
 The match part of it is that when you upload your lib, iTunes Match will
 find the best recording of that particular song and artist and give you
 access to it.
 
 It's an annual subscription, and I think the first $24.99 covers 25000
 songs.
 
 Look here for more information.
 
 http://www.apple.com/itunes/itunes-match/
 
 Dave
 
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Re: iTunes Match and iOS

[Chris Meredith]

Hmmm. This is totally not what I'm seeing.  So either they are redoing how 
songs are managed on the iPhone, or they managed to break accessibility in the 
update (either of these are possible).  I suppose it's off to the forums where 
I can speak freely about such things then ...

-Chris-
On Jul 29, 2012, at 5:38 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is when you are in Songs view.  I don't believe that you'll have any 
 issues with the songs that are already uploaded to iCloud.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2012-07-29, at 4:01 PM, Chris Meredith talli...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 In what view would I find this?  Songs?  Artist?  It's possible that this is 
 broken in ... um ... builds of iOS that I'm not permitted to talk about, in 
 which case this is a regression and I should file a bug.  The other 
 possibility is that my phone is syncing everything in my music library 
 despite iTunes Match being turned on, which is about to become disastrous as 
 I import my entire CD collection to the cloud.
 
 On Jul 29, 2012, at 8:07 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 In iOS, if the music is locally stored, there will be no indication whereas 
 if it is in iCloud, part of your iTunes Match collection and thus 
 downloadable, there will be an iCloud Download button after the given item.
 
 To delete an item is a little tricky but I have had success doing this:
 
 • Double-tap and hold on the item you wish to delete.
 • VO will make the blip sound.
 • Right away after the blip sound finishes, swipe left or right.
 • Wait a couple of seconds then swipe right.
 • VO should announce Confirm Deletion.
 • Double-tap on that button and it's gone.
 
 HTH.
 
 Later...
 
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2012-07-29, at 1:48 AM, Chris Meredith talli...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Greetings.
 
 So I just turned on iTunes Match and am in the process of uploading my 
 entire library.  One thing I'm noticing, though: It appears that VoiceOver 
 doesn't actually see the cloud icon next to songs, artists or albums that 
 indicate their status as in the cloud vs. locally downloaded.
 Further, I'm not entirely sure I can see an option to remove synced music 
 from my phone once downloaded.  Is there a workaround I'm missing due to 
 my expectation that the way to do things that is listed in most 
 walkthroughs actually works with VoiceOver?
 
 -Chris-
 
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Re: iTunes Match and iOS

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

In iOS, if the music is locally stored, there will be no indication whereas if 
it is in iCloud, part of your iTunes Match collection and thus downloadable, 
there will be an iCloud Download button after the given item.

To delete an item is a little tricky but I have had success doing this:

• Double-tap and hold on the item you wish to delete.
• VO will make the blip sound.
• Right away after the blip sound finishes, swipe left or right.
• Wait a couple of seconds then swipe right.
• VO should announce Confirm Deletion.
• Double-tap on that button and it's gone.

HTH.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-07-29, at 1:48 AM, Chris Meredith talli...@gmail.com wrote:

 Greetings.
 
 So I just turned on iTunes Match and am in the process of uploading my entire 
 library.  One thing I'm noticing, though: It appears that VoiceOver doesn't 
 actually see the cloud icon next to songs, artists or albums that indicate 
 their status as in the cloud vs. locally downloaded.
 Further, I'm not entirely sure I can see an option to remove synced music 
 from my phone once downloaded.  Is there a workaround I'm missing due to my 
 expectation that the way to do things that is listed in most walkthroughs 
 actually works with VoiceOver?
 
 -Chris-
 
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Re: iTunes Match and iOS

[Chris Meredith]

In what view would I find this?  Songs?  Artist?  It's possible that this is 
broken in ... um ... builds of iOS that I'm not permitted to talk about, in 
which case this is a regression and I should file a bug.  The other possibility 
is that my phone is syncing everything in my music library despite iTunes Match 
being turned on, which is about to become disastrous as I import my entire CD 
collection to the cloud.

On Jul 29, 2012, at 8:07 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 In iOS, if the music is locally stored, there will be no indication whereas 
 if it is in iCloud, part of your iTunes Match collection and thus 
 downloadable, there will be an iCloud Download button after the given item.
 
 To delete an item is a little tricky but I have had success doing this:
 
 • Double-tap and hold on the item you wish to delete.
 • VO will make the blip sound.
 • Right away after the blip sound finishes, swipe left or right.
 • Wait a couple of seconds then swipe right.
 • VO should announce Confirm Deletion.
 • Double-tap on that button and it's gone.
 
 HTH.
 
 Later...
 
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2012-07-29, at 1:48 AM, Chris Meredith talli...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Greetings.
 
 So I just turned on iTunes Match and am in the process of uploading my 
 entire library.  One thing I'm noticing, though: It appears that VoiceOver 
 doesn't actually see the cloud icon next to songs, artists or albums that 
 indicate their status as in the cloud vs. locally downloaded.
 Further, I'm not entirely sure I can see an option to remove synced music 
 from my phone once downloaded.  Is there a workaround I'm missing due to my 
 expectation that the way to do things that is listed in most walkthroughs 
 actually works with VoiceOver?
 
 -Chris-
 
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Re: iTunes Match and iOS

[Tim Kilburn]

This is when you are in Songs view.  I don't believe that you'll have any 
issues with the songs that are already uploaded to iCloud.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-07-29, at 4:01 PM, Chris Meredith talli...@gmail.com wrote:

 In what view would I find this?  Songs?  Artist?  It's possible that this is 
 broken in ... um ... builds of iOS that I'm not permitted to talk about, in 
 which case this is a regression and I should file a bug.  The other 
 possibility is that my phone is syncing everything in my music library 
 despite iTunes Match being turned on, which is about to become disastrous as 
 I import my entire CD collection to the cloud.
 
 On Jul 29, 2012, at 8:07 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 In iOS, if the music is locally stored, there will be no indication whereas 
 if it is in iCloud, part of your iTunes Match collection and thus 
 downloadable, there will be an iCloud Download button after the given item.
 
 To delete an item is a little tricky but I have had success doing this:
 
 • Double-tap and hold on the item you wish to delete.
 • VO will make the blip sound.
 • Right away after the blip sound finishes, swipe left or right.
 • Wait a couple of seconds then swipe right.
 • VO should announce Confirm Deletion.
 • Double-tap on that button and it's gone.
 
 HTH.
 
 Later...
 
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2012-07-29, at 1:48 AM, Chris Meredith talli...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Greetings.
 
 So I just turned on iTunes Match and am in the process of uploading my 
 entire library.  One thing I'm noticing, though: It appears that VoiceOver 
 doesn't actually see the cloud icon next to songs, artists or albums that 
 indicate their status as in the cloud vs. locally downloaded.
 Further, I'm not entirely sure I can see an option to remove synced music 
 from my phone once downloaded.  Is there a workaround I'm missing due to my 
 expectation that the way to do things that is listed in most walkthroughs 
 actually works with VoiceOver?
 
 -Chris-
 
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RE: iTunes Match

[Daniel Miller]

Hi,

The tags don't matter, it looks at the acoustic fingerprint of the song to
match it.


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Berwick
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 7:20 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes Match

Hi all,

I used a program to add mp3 tags to all of my music and it mislabelled some
of the songs; i.e. looking at the names of the songs you might expect to
hear one song, but a different song plays.

My question is whether iTunes Match matches your music based on the tags or
whether it takes a sample of the song to ensure the proper song is matched.

Does anybody know?

Thx,
Jeff

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RE: iTunes match How to get High Quality versions?

[Reinhard Stebner]

Hi Eric,

ITunes will do this automatically, but if you want to encourage the process,
you can write click (bring up the applications menu) when the track is
focused and select download. If this option is not available, then iTunes
thinks that the version of the song is the only one available.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Caron
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Subject: iTunesmatch How to get High Quality versions?

Hi listers,

I recently subscribed to iTunes match.  I'm hoping to improve the
quality of some of my music.  Many of my rips have some sound issues so
updating to the Apple version would be nice.

My understanding is that you can download the Apple version once your song
is matched.   I don't know how to do that.  Can someone offer tips how to
know if you have downloaded a better quality version of the song?  Many of
my low quality Mp3 rips could use help and I can't take the time to dig out
hundreds of CD's to do them again.
So far I seemed to have completed the first steps and iTunes thinks it is
done. In the view menu I turned on the iCloud options and now hear the
message  iCloud download needs upload or the message iCloud download
local.

I would be grateful if someone could explain these messages .  And if I can
have directions on how to use iCloud match to improve the quality of my rips
so my listening is improved.

Gratefully,

Eric Caron 

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Re: iTunes Match Question

[Kevin Shaw]

when I download a matched item, why does the metadata in the file not change? 
It'd be nice to get album information for some of the tracks I have.

Kevin

On 2012-01-16, at 9:29 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

 Hi,
 
 1.  iCloud Download, - Error - There's something wrong with the original 
 local file and it can't be uploaded.  You can translate it to AIFF, then 
 delete the old AAC or MP3 file.  The AIFF will be uploaded to iCloud then you 
 can download the matched AAC version right after that.
 
 2.  iCloud Download, Ineligible - Wrong file type, like digital booklets, 
 some MP3s and numerous other reasons.
 
 2.  iCloud Download, Download - Item is in your Library but not stored 
 locally.  You can press this button to get the matched version downloaded to 
 your local machine.
 
 4.  iCloud Download, Need Upload - The file is damaged or incomplete and 
 cannot be uploaded.
 
 I think that there's a few others but I haven't seen them yet so I can't 
 comment on them.
 
 Later...
 
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 Tim,
 I've noticed the iCloud error button at least once.  Could you explain
 the various buttons and their meanings?
 
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Re: iTunes Match Question

[Tim Kilburn]

I would guess that this metadata is not being changed because it is inheriting 
the Info you have within your iTunes Library database.  The idea is that your 
Library DB is stored in iCloud and only music from your Library that cannot be 
matched from within Apple's iTunes collections is moved to iCloud.  Therefore, 
however you have the item tagged is how it will stay.

Later...

On 2012-01-19, at 7:56 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote:

 when I download a matched item, why does the metadata in the file not change? 
 It'd be nice to get album information for some of the tracks I have.
 
 Kevin
 
 On 2012-01-16, at 9:29 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 1.  iCloud Download, - Error - There's something wrong with the original 
 local file and it can't be uploaded.  You can translate it to AIFF, then 
 delete the old AAC or MP3 file.  The AIFF will be uploaded to iCloud then 
 you can download the matched AAC version right after that.
 
 2.  iCloud Download, Ineligible - Wrong file type, like digital booklets, 
 some MP3s and numerous other reasons.
 
 2.  iCloud Download, Download - Item is in your Library but not stored 
 locally.  You can press this button to get the matched version downloaded to 
 your local machine.
 
 4.  iCloud Download, Need Upload - The file is damaged or incomplete and 
 cannot be uploaded.
 
 I think that there's a few others but I haven't seen them yet so I can't 
 comment on them.
 
 Later...
 
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 Tim,
 I've noticed the iCloud error button at least once.  Could you explain
 the various buttons and their meanings?
 
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Re: itunes match updating

[Kevin Gibbs]

How does one delete local files and replace them with higher
resolution files from the cloud?

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Re: iTunes Match Question

[Kevin Gibbs]

Tim,
I've noticed the iCloud error button at least once.  Could you explain
the various buttons and their meanings?

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Re: itunes match updating

[Yuma Decaux]

There's a little process much documented on an article but i just took the 
essential and didn't keep the bookmark.

Here goes:

First create a smart playlist with two rules. First being to check for tracks 
which have found a match on icloud. The second is to get tracks which bitrate 
is under 256k.

Once you got that, your playlist will have all the tracks that need be replaced 
by higher bitrates. You then have too choose all of them and delete them.

Once that's done, update your itunes match via the menu bar/store and wait for 
the new files to download.

Best regards,

Yuma 



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Re: itunes match updating

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Also note that when you delete the files, there is an option to delete them 
from iCloud as well, make sure that this box is not checked otherwise you won't 
be able to re-download them.

Later...
On 2012-01-16, at 2:13 AM, Yuma Decaux wrote:

 There's a little process much documented on an article but i just took the 
 essential and didn't keep the bookmark.
 
 Here goes:
 
 First create a smart playlist with two rules. First being to check for tracks 
 which have found a match on icloud. The second is to get tracks which bitrate 
 is under 256k.
 
 Once you got that, your playlist will have all the tracks that need be 
 replaced by higher bitrates. You then have too choose all of them and delete 
 them.
 
 Once that's done, update your itunes match via the menu bar/store and wait 
 for the new files to download.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Yuma 
 
 
 
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 How does one delete local files and replace them with higher
 resolution files from the cloud?
 
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Re: iTunes Match Question

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

1.  iCloud Download, - Error - There's something wrong with the original local 
file and it can't be uploaded.  You can translate it to AIFF, then delete the 
old AAC or MP3 file.  The AIFF will be uploaded to iCloud then you can download 
the matched AAC version right after that.

2.  iCloud Download, Ineligible - Wrong file type, like digital booklets, some 
MP3s and numerous other reasons.

2.  iCloud Download, Download - Item is in your Library but not stored locally. 
 You can press this button to get the matched version downloaded to your local 
machine.

4.  iCloud Download, Need Upload - The file is damaged or incomplete and cannot 
be uploaded.

I think that there's a few others but I haven't seen them yet so I can't 
comment on them.

Later...

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 Tim,
 I've noticed the iCloud error button at least once.  Could you explain
 the various buttons and their meanings?
 
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Re: iTunes Match Question

[Scott Howell]

Kevin,

You have to delete the song from your library and then the download button will 
appear.

hth,

On Jan 15, 2012, at 12:00 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote:

 Hi List,
 
 I've signed up for iTunes  Match. Most of my library is already AAC 256k, so 
 I don't have a lot of MP3 files to move over to the new format.
 
 I do have a few MP3 files that are not obscure songs at all. they're 80s pop 
 ballads, rock songs you'd hear on radio, that type of thing. For some reason, 
 they are not being matched. Is there a way to do this even if the download 
 button doesn't show up next to the song title in the list view? Please let me 
 know if you have any insights to this.
 
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Re: itunes match updating

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Hi Yuma.
Did you mean CD rather than DVDs? If not, iTunes Match from what I understand 
is only for music.
iTunes Match only upgrades what you have if it isn't already in 256 K AAC and 
it'll only upload anything that isn't present in the iTunes catalogue. Also, if 
you've purchased anything from the iTunes store matching won't occur because 
purchases are stored in the cloud and a one and the same as matched content.
HTH.
Matthew Campbell.


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 Hi all,
 
 As i'm increasing my library with dvd rips, i don't see how itunes match 
 updates my library. How can i make sure it's actually matching new tracks and 
 uploading those it doesn't have?
 
 
 Best regards,
 
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Re: itunes match updating

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi Matthew,

Yes it's all CDs. I've made some playlists with under 256k as well as unclouded 
songs and i see many of them, as well as purchased tracks for some odd reason. 

I heard about the method for deleting local files to redownload them in higher 
bitrates but i don't really see it happening with my library since i have a lot 
of obscure stuff.

Hope this somehow changes throughout otherwise i won't continue with this 
service 

Best 


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 Hi Yuma.
 Did you mean CD rather than DVDs? If not, iTunes Match from what I understand 
 is only for music.
 iTunes Match only upgrades what you have if it isn't already in 256 K AAC and 
 it'll only upload anything that isn't present in the iTunes catalogue. Also, 
 if you've purchased anything from the iTunes store matching won't occur 
 because purchases are stored in the cloud and a one and the same as matched 
 content.
 HTH.
 Matthew Campbell.
 
 
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 Hi all,
 
 As i'm increasing my library with dvd rips, i don't see how itunes match 
 updates my library. How can i make sure it's actually matching new tracks 
 and uploading those it doesn't have?
 
 
 Best regards,
 
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Re: iTunes Match Question

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Hi,

The Download button not appearing does not necessarily mean it was not matched. 
 It could simply be that the song is just being stored locally.  There should 
be a number of categories it could read in that status area:

• iCloud Download, local
• iCloud Download, error
• iCloud Download, ineligible

or

• iCloud Download, need upload

Depending on which of the above states the specific song title is will 
determine what you need to do to fix it.

Later...

On 2012-01-14, at 10:00 PM, Kevin Shaw wrote:

 Hi List,
 
 I've signed up for iTunes  Match. Most of my library is already AAC 256k, so 
 I don't have a lot of MP3 files to move over to the new format.
 
 I do have a few MP3 files that are not obscure songs at all. they're 80s pop 
 ballads, rock songs you'd hear on radio, that type of thing. For some reason, 
 they are not being matched. Is there a way to do this even if the download 
 button doesn't show up next to the song title in the list view? Please let me 
 know if you have any insights to this.
 
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Re: Itunes Match

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Hank,

THe way this would work is you setup iTUnes Match and once everything is 
completed you do the following.
You locate the tracks you want to replace and delete them. Be aware that they 
will still appear in your Library, but what you will find is an iCloud download 
button and you use this to pull the new file down.
A few things to keep in mind. First you must be sure your tracks have the same 
ID3 tag info as what the iTunes store has and as far as I can tell the only 
important things are track titles and album titles, but I suspect track titles 
are more important.
SOme things that are not available via the iTunes store will seemingly when 
deleted and downloaded come back as a 256 MP3 file. Not sure how the backend 
process works, but not a bad deal. In general for $24.99 for the year it is a 
good deal if you want to swap out crappy sounding tracks for something with 
better audio quality.

Now of course make   sure you have a backup because I am only relating my 
experience by messing around. If the world comes to an end, I take no 
responsibility. :) Actually you should not have any problems, but it will take 
time for all your stuff to be uploaded, so be prepared.

On Nov 19, 2011, at 9:21 PM, Hank Smith wrote:

 Hello what are the work arounds?
 my plan is to import my intire library, get all the tracks in high quality 
 then some how have it remove the lower quality mp3 tracks.
 my problem is like I said I have more then 25000 tracks.
 any help on this would be appreciated.
 Hank
 On 11/19/2011 10:28 AM, John Panarese wrote:
   I think the limit is 25000 songs in ones library.  At least, that number 
 comes to mind as the limit.  However, there are ways around it if one is 
 willing to work a little.
 
 Take Care
 
 John Panarese
 jpanar...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Nov 19, 2011, at 12:15 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 They put a limit on the songs?  I thought it was dependent on the amount of 
 storage space you have.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Nov 19, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
 
 25000 songs not purchased from the iTunes store.
 
 
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 Subject: Re: Itunes Match
 
 Hello
 what is the song limit on itunes match?
 I have over 8 thousdand tracks
 On 11/19/2011 4:00 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 Ah ha, how silly could I be. Of course that makes sense. Funny, now that
 you mention it I thought I had read that somewhere, but since I could not
 find that info, I wanted to verify. Deleting the material won't be a 
 problem
 since I have it backed up.
 THanks for the response.
 
 Scott
 
 On Nov 19, 2011, at 12:21 AM, Dan Roy wrote:
 
 yes, but, it won't automatically replace them.  You would have to first
 delete the old version, then, if iTunes has a match for the song in the
 iTunes store, you would then be able to download it.  Also, after setting 
 up
 match, it needs to upload the songs that iTunes doesn't have, this does 
 take
 some time.
 I have found a few miner glitches where it says it uploaded a song, but
 either didn't get it all or something like that.
 On Nov 18, 2011, at 7:13 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
 Courtney, I do want to download them, so I have access to them when I do
 not have a network connection. In fact this is one of the advantages of
 having iTunes Match is the ability to replace lower quality tracks with
 higher quality versions that you can keep even if you discontinue use of 
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Re: Itunes Match

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Ah ha, how silly could I be. Of course that makes sense. Funny, now that you 
mention it I thought I had read that somewhere, but since I could not find that 
info, I wanted to verify. Deleting the material won't be a problem since I have 
it backed up.
THanks for the response.

Scott

On Nov 19, 2011, at 12:21 AM, Dan Roy wrote:

 yes, but, it won't automatically replace them.  You would have to first 
 delete the old version, then, if iTunes has a match for the song in the 
 iTunes store, you would then be able to download it.  Also, after setting up 
 match, it needs to upload the songs that iTunes doesn't have, this does take 
 some time.
 
 I have found a few miner glitches where it says it uploaded a song, but 
 either didn't get it all or something like that.  
 On Nov 18, 2011, at 7:13 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
 Courtney, I do want to download them, so I have access to them when I do not 
 have a network connection. In fact this is one of the advantages of having 
 iTunes Match is the ability to replace lower quality tracks with higher 
 quality versions that you can keep even if you discontinue use of the 
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Re: Itunes Match

[Goodin, Donna]

Hi all,

what is the cost of iTunes match?
TIA,
Donna
On Nov 19, 2011, at 12:21 AM, Dan Roy wrote:

 yes, but, it won't automatically replace them.  You would have to first 
 delete the old version, then, if iTunes has a match for the song in the 
 iTunes store, you would then be able to download it.  Also, after setting up 
 match, it needs to upload the songs that iTunes doesn't have, this does take 
 some time.
 
 I have found a few miner glitches where it says it uploaded a song, but 
 either didn't get it all or something like that.  
 On Nov 18, 2011, at 7:13 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
 Courtney, I do want to download them, so I have access to them when I do not 
 have a network connection. In fact this is one of the advantages of having 
 iTunes Match is the ability to replace lower quality tracks with higher 
 quality versions that you can keep even if you discontinue use of the 
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RE: Itunes Match

[Daniel Miller]

$24.99 a year.


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Hi all,

what is the cost of iTunes match?
TIA,
Donna
On Nov 19, 2011, at 12:21 AM, Dan Roy wrote:

 yes, but, it won't automatically replace them.  You would have to first
delete the old version, then, if iTunes has a match for the song in the
iTunes store, you would then be able to download it.  Also, after setting up
match, it needs to upload the songs that iTunes doesn't have, this does take
some time.
 
 I have found a few miner glitches where it says it uploaded a song, but
either didn't get it all or something like that.  
 On Nov 18, 2011, at 7:13 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
 Courtney, I do want to download them, so I have access to them when I do
not have a network connection. In fact this is one of the advantages of
having iTunes Match is the ability to replace lower quality tracks with
higher quality versions that you can keep even if you discontinue use of the
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Re: Itunes Match

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I was wondering, Can you pick what music gets backed up to iCloud?  If so, How 
does that work?

Thanks.

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On Nov 19, 2011, at 7:47 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:

 $24.99 a year.
 
 
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 Subject: Re: Itunes Match
 
 Hi all,
 
 what is the cost of iTunes match?
 TIA,
 Donna
 On Nov 19, 2011, at 12:21 AM, Dan Roy wrote:
 
 yes, but, it won't automatically replace them.  You would have to first
 delete the old version, then, if iTunes has a match for the song in the
 iTunes store, you would then be able to download it.  Also, after setting up
 match, it needs to upload the songs that iTunes doesn't have, this does take
 some time.
 
 I have found a few miner glitches where it says it uploaded a song, but
 either didn't get it all or something like that.  
 On Nov 18, 2011, at 7:13 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
 Courtney, I do want to download them, so I have access to them when I do
 not have a network connection. In fact this is one of the advantages of
 having iTunes Match is the ability to replace lower quality tracks with
 higher quality versions that you can keep even if you discontinue use of the
 service.
 
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RE: Itunes Match

[Daniel Miller]

Unfortunately, no, you can't. What ever's in your library at the time will
get matched.


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Subject: Re: Itunes Match

Hi,

I was wondering, Can you pick what music gets backed up to iCloud?  If so,
How does that work?

Thanks.

Ricardo Walker
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Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Nov 19, 2011, at 7:47 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:

 $24.99 a year.
 
 
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Goodin, Donna
 Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 6:36 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Itunes Match
 
 Hi all,
 
 what is the cost of iTunes match?
 TIA,
 Donna
 On Nov 19, 2011, at 12:21 AM, Dan Roy wrote:
 
 yes, but, it won't automatically replace them.  You would have to 
 first
 delete the old version, then, if iTunes has a match for the song in 
 the iTunes store, you would then be able to download it.  Also, after 
 setting up match, it needs to upload the songs that iTunes doesn't 
 have, this does take some time.
 
 I have found a few miner glitches where it says it uploaded a song, 
 but
 either didn't get it all or something like that.  
 On Nov 18, 2011, at 7:13 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
 Courtney, I do want to download them, so I have access to them when 
 I do
 not have a network connection. In fact this is one of the advantages 
 of having iTunes Match is the ability to replace lower quality tracks 
 with higher quality versions that you can keep even if you discontinue 
 use of the service.
 
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