Re: [MBZ] Hey Johnny B. RE: Amsoil
On Wednesday, February 8, 2006, at 10:24 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Johnny B, What weight of Amsoil are you running in your cars? I drove all around last weekend looking for Mobil 1 5w40 for my 190D and had zero luck. Every place I went to carried it but none actually HAD any. A guy at one Wal-Mart told me they sell out quick. Whats extra irritating is a couple weeks ago I was at Wal-Mart and they had a bunch but I didn't get any. That'll teach me. Anyway I'm considering Amsoil and so checking out their site. I'm thinking the XL 10w40 or AFL 5w40. The XL is cheaper, a bit cheaper than Mobil 1 even although shipping will probably fix that. I'd be interested to hear from you and any other Amsoil folks that are around. -Curt Curt, Not being able to get the Mobil 1 products I want when I want them is what made me look into Amsoil. I have 15W-40 Heavy Duty Diesel oil 100% synthetic (AME) in one car. Series 3000 5W-30 100% synthetic(HDD) in another. Change interval of 15,000mi on both. I also have 3 MB diesels running on Mobil 1 15-50. Same 15,000mi oil change interval Bottom line is; They all allow for way faster cold cranking speeds than dino oils of the same viscosity and provide better all around performance/longevity. I have done my own comparisons and test results between Amsoil and Mobil 1 show little to no variation on the same engine. The coldest that its been since I came home was -8 F. For science, I did not plug in the block heaters and both of the cars with Amsoil started right up (after 2.5 glow cycles and some cranking. I couldn't tell the difference in cranking speed between them. 15-40 is in a 602 engine, 5-30 is in a 601. The three 617.952s I have are running the 15-50 Mobil 1. 2 out of 3 started without much fuss. The remaining car had a weak battery, after charging it up, the temp was in the teens, car started but cannot be used as comparison due to the rise in ambient temp. I/my vehicles are a good test bed for cold performance due to my geographical location. I also have 3 different MB diesel engines. I also drive a zillion mies a year. I am going to run the 15-40 AME in my 190D 2.5 up to 20,000 and send a sample in for analysis. Will report on the test results when the time comes. I do not recommend going past 15,000 mi without oil analysis. I sleep better at night knowing that I'm causing no harm to my engines by extending the drain intervals. BTW if anyone is considering using Amsoil please let me get you started. It costs $30 annually to become a dealer. I saved that plus more $$ on my first order. I will get a stipend from Amsoil and it won't affect your price. A win-win situation. I should be getting the rest of my dealer kit in a couple of days and can provide more, better info at that time. Other options are to become a preferred customer $20/year or just go retail. If you decide to go retail contact me and I will give you my ZO#. This will once again do something for me without any change in your price. Give me a shot, if you just go and do it yourself it will be like throwing money away, Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] Hey Johnny B. RE: Amsoil
On Wednesday, February 8, 2006, at 11:46 AM, Gary Thompson wrote: I've searched every Walmart in town for Mobil1 5W40 as well. I'm starting to get desparate as I REALLY need to do an oil change, but only have 1 jug of 15W50 left. Me too but I also tried 4 other places that normally carry it. At what mileage are you changing your oil now. Did you ever send samples out for testing? Two Walmarts still have a label on the shelf, but didn't have any in stock. Guy at one of those told me he hadn't been able to get it. He also mentioned that it looked like the extended performance versions were going away as well. No loss there. They must be doing the same thing nationwide. Three other Walmarts don't even have shelf space for it any more. Had the auto manager at one store this morning tell me he wasn't going to stock it at all. Said it hadn't been very popular. When I pointed out that the shelves were always empty, he didn't have a good answer. One guy told me they wouldn't be restocking the 15-50, then a month later I see it on the shelf but they only had 5 qts. I had to go to Advance Auto Parts to get the remainder for an oil change. I may be forced to find an alternative or a different source. :^( Amsoil is a great alternative, I would like to be your source. Think about it. Gary Thompson Georgetown, TX 1995 E320 Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] Hey Johnny B. RE: Amsoil
On Wednesday, February 8, 2006, at 10:24 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Johnny B, What weight of Amsoil are you running in your cars? I drove all around last weekend looking for Mobil 1 5w40 for my 190D and had zero luck. Every place I went to carried it but none actually HAD any. A guy at one Wal-Mart told me they sell out quick. Whats extra irritating is a couple weeks ago I was at Wal-Mart and they had a bunch but I didn't get any. That'll teach me. Anyway I'm considering Amsoil and so checking out their site. I'm thinking the XL 10w40 or AFL 5w40. The XL is cheaper, a bit cheaper than Mobil 1 even although shipping will probably fix that. I'd be interested to hear from you and any other Amsoil folks that are around. -Curt Curt, Not being able to get the Mobil 1 products I want when I want them is what made me look into Amsoil. I have 15W-40 Heavy Duty Diesel oil 100% synthetic (AME) in one car. Series 3000 5W-30 100% synthetic(HDD) in another. Change interval of 15,000mi on both. I also have 3 MB diesels running on Mobil 1 15-50. Same 15,000mi oil change interval Bottom line is; They all allow for way faster cold cranking speeds than dino oils of the same viscosity and provide better all around performance/longevity. I have done my own comparisons and test results between Amsoil and Mobil 1 show little to no variation on the same engine. The coldest that its been since I came home was -8 F. For science, I did not plug in the block heaters and both of the cars with Amsoil started right up (after 2.5 glow cycles and some cranking. I couldn't tell the difference in cranking speed between them. 15-40 is in a 602 engine, 5-30 is in a 601. The three 617.952s I have are running the 15-50 Mobil 1. 2 out of 3 started without much fuss. The remaining car had a weak battery, after charging it up, the temp was in the teens, car started but cannot be used as comparison due to the rise in ambient temp. I/my vehicles are a good test bed for cold performance due to my geographical location. I also have 3 different MB diesel engines. I also drive a zillion mies a year. I am going to run the 15-40 AME in my 190D 2.5 up to 20,000 and send a sample in for analysis. Will report on the test results when the time comes. I do not recommend going past 15,000 mi without oil analysis. I sleep better at night knowing that I'm causing no harm to my engines by extending the drain intervals. BTW if anyone is considering using Amsoil please let me get you started. It costs $30 annually to become a dealer. I saved that plus more $$ on my first order. I will get a stipend from Amsoil and it won't affect your price. A win-win situation. I should be getting the rest of my dealer kit in a couple of days and can provide more, better info at that time. Other options are to become a preferred customer $20/year or just go retail. If you decide to go retail contact me and I will give you my ZO#. This will once again do something for me without any change in your price. Give me a shot, if you just go and do it yourself it will be like throwing money away, Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] 190D Lunch experience
Find the wires up near the radio, on the TD they were green/blk and some variants of that as I recall. If the spkrs still work you can take a 9V battery and touch it to the spkr wires and you will hear a pop when you have the correct pair. --R Curt Raymond wrote: So I took a look at the manual (thanks Marshall!) and at lunch I went out and took a look at my car. Learned a couple things; 1. One of the connectors on the PB was disconnected. 2. One screw below the vent won't do its job because the plastic around it is broke, needs a washer. 3. The stereo install was a kludge at best. The rear speakers don't work and I think its because they aren't wired... Of course now it'd be a hassle to figure out which wires are the rear speakers (unless somebody knows) so I may just run a couple... So maybe that connector will save the day. We'll see on my commute tonight. -Curt - Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Keeping things moving
On Wednesday, February 8, 2006, at 02:01 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: From the manual it looks like the fresh air doors under the hood aren't opening, explaining why I have full heat all the time. could be of course that the PB is bad... Gonna have to take a look at the doors to see whats happening. Look for a disconnected/cracked hose under the air intake screening. I have seen several 201s with a cracked hose on the red/wh line. What size wrench is it for the bleeders? I presume I should use a tube from the bleeder down to a cannister to catch the old fluid, what size should the tube be? Bleeders 9mm hose 5/32, 1/8 may squeeze over though. Thanks all -Curt Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] Converting to R-134
On Wednesday, February 8, 2006, at 06:05 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: This is my first time charging a 134 ssytem. When converting, don't they take about 80% of the R12 charge? (By weight.) -- Jim Yes. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] OT: oil change humor - quite funny
Did brakes on my Galant and lower radiator hose on Diamante this weekend. No beer, but rest was close enough. *sighs* And since I'm typing and in a complaining mood anyway still need a radiator, as the cause of the blown hose was the corrosion in the radiator to begin with, which probably means I might as well go ahead and change the water pump and thermostat, for good measure since corrosion is in engine block and heater core as well better replace core and all other hoses. Wonder if I can pressure wash the block with fresh coolant / water before allowing what is currently in block into new core and radiator. Maybe I'd better pay to have it done, ay? On 2/7/06, Brian Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sigh...been there!!! Brian from Columbia MO. - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 5:13 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT: oil change humor - quite funny OIL CHANGE INSTRUCTIONS FOR WOMEN: ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Re: [MBZ] 9th generation S-class...
actually, there are only 5 generations of S class. The 116 being the first actualy S-class car. Christopher McCann wrote: excellent, thanks! W116 - 5th gen HA I'm no longer a gen-x-er. I'm a Gen-6-er!! Chris Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris, Try this link... It defines each generation.. http://www.mbusa.com/microsite/s-class/index.jsp Chuck Phoenix, AZ with one of the generations. a W116 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Converting to R-134
Well first of all you need to figure out how much R12 is supposed to be in there. You want to install 80(maybe 85)% of that amount. When that is done if everything is correct, you should probably see somewhere between 30 and 50 on the low side and 250-350 on the high side. Sorry I cant be more specific but alot of it depends on the temp. If you are getting generally those kind of readings everything is probably working right. If the high is low and low is high, then you have something wrong. If the pressures are about the same the compressor is not doing anything. Im sure somebody can point you to some info about what specific things can be wrong with a given set of incorrect pressures. tom savage wrote: I know it is a little early to be asking about this, but thought I'd avoid the spring rush and ask now. I'm resurrecting the AC on a 1990 560SEC and the owner wants to convert to R-134 (I know, I know...) We've got everything installed, replaced, flushed, and ready to charge, except for one small bit of info: What pressure should I be seeing on the low side when the system is fully charged? I'd rather use my real gauges to check this and not just rely on the cheap gauge with plastic fittings reading in the green area. This is my first time charging a 134 ssytem. Thanks, Tom ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Hey Johnny B. RE: Amsoil
Then you tack on my 15% commission on each sale... John Berryman wrote: On Wednesday, February 8, 2006, at 10:24 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Johnny B, What weight of Amsoil are you running in your cars? I drove all around last weekend looking for Mobil 1 5w40 for my 190D and had zero luck. Every place I went to carried it but none actually HAD any. A guy at one Wal-Mart told me they sell out quick. Whats extra irritating is a couple weeks ago I was at Wal-Mart and they had a bunch but I didn't get any. That'll teach me. Anyway I'm considering Amsoil and so checking out their site. I'm thinking the XL 10w40 or AFL 5w40. The XL is cheaper, a bit cheaper than Mobil 1 even although shipping will probably fix that. I'd be interested to hear from you and any other Amsoil folks that are around. -Curt Curt, Not being able to get the Mobil 1 products I want when I want them is what made me look into Amsoil. I have 15W-40 Heavy Duty Diesel oil 100% synthetic (AME) in one car. Series 3000 5W-30 100% synthetic(HDD) in another. Change interval of 15,000mi on both. I also have 3 MB diesels running on Mobil 1 15-50. Same 15,000mi oil change interval Bottom line is; They all allow for way faster cold cranking speeds than dino oils of the same viscosity and provide better all around performance/longevity. I have done my own comparisons and test results between Amsoil and Mobil 1 show little to no variation on the same engine. The coldest that its been since I came home was -8 F. For science, I did not plug in the block heaters and both of the cars with Amsoil started right up (after 2.5 glow cycles and some cranking. I couldn't tell the difference in cranking speed between them. 15-40 is in a 602 engine, 5-30 is in a 601. The three 617.952s I have are running the 15-50 Mobil 1. 2 out of 3 started without much fuss. The remaining car had a weak battery, after charging it up, the temp was in the teens, car started but cannot be used as comparison due to the rise in ambient temp. I/my vehicles are a good test bed for cold performance due to my geographical location. I also have 3 different MB diesel engines. I also drive a zillion mies a year. I am going to run the 15-40 AME in my 190D 2.5 up to 20,000 and send a sample in for analysis. Will report on the test results when the time comes. I do not recommend going past 15,000 mi without oil analysis. I sleep better at night knowing that I'm causing no harm to my engines by extending the drain intervals. BTW if anyone is considering using Amsoil please let me get you started. It costs $30 annually to become a dealer. I saved that plus more $$ on my first order. I will get a stipend from Amsoil and it won't affect your price. A win-win situation. I should be getting the rest of my dealer kit in a couple of days and can provide more, better info at that time. Other options are to become a preferred customer $20/year or just go retail. If you decide to go retail contact me and I will give you my ZO#. This will once again do something for me without any change in your price. Give me a shot, if you just go and do it yourself it will be like throwing money away, Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 9th generation S-class...
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: actually, there are only 5 generations of S class. The 116 being the first actualy S-class car. I'd go along with you if you included the 108/109SEL as #1.
Re: [MBZ] converting to R134
In answer to Tom's question about what pressure should be seen on the low side port: It Depends. The pressure will depend on evaporator temperature, cooling load, ambient air temperature and engine speed, among other things. In practice, expect to see about 300 to 350PSI on the high side with outside temperatures around 80F, and about 30-50PSI on the low side, with the engine running at 1000RPM, and the fan speed on MAX (non-recirc). Make sure you charge with the recommended amount of refrigerant by weight, and everything should work out right. -brian
Re: [MBZ] 9th generation S-class...
Myself I personally consider that #1 too but was just basing my comment on cars that are actually called S class. Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: actually, there are only 5 generations of S class. The 116 being the first actualy S-class car. I'd go along with you if you included the 108/109SEL as #1. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 9th generation S-class...
We could be here debating that point for ever, I could argue that only since the class system was truly introduce in 94 can a big merc be called an S class. A pontoon or finnie is not what you would call a S class but the bigger limos of that era could be put in the S class category. However to keep the peace I think we could all agree that the 108/9 is the first real S class due to it's relatively large production run. Hendrik and his E class 123 230E - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 9th generation S-class... actually, there are only 5 generations of S class. The 116 being the first actualy S-class car. Christopher McCann wrote: excellent, thanks! W116 - 5th gen HA I'm no longer a gen-x-er. I'm a Gen-6-er!! Chris Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris, Try this link... It defines each generation.. http://www.mbusa.com/microsite/s-class/index.jsp Chuck Phoenix, AZ with one of the generations. a W116 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.15.2/253 - Release Date: 7/02/2006
Re: [MBZ] OT: oil change humor - quite funny
Wonder if I can pressure wash the block with fresh coolant / water before allowing what is currently in block into new core and radiator. Maybe I'd better pay to have it done, ay? You could do a Prestone flush (alkaline) (removes oils) followed by a citric acid flush (ala MB) (removes scale) then flush with LOTS of water SEVERAL times. My 2¢ Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT
Re: [MBZ] 9th generation S-class...
Why not agree with Mercedes? There was a Finnie S (300SE) and a Ponton S and a 108/109 S. ___ GG St. Louis - Cincinnati 1997 SL500 http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/Sites/My_Commanders.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Riessen Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 7:51 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 9th generation S-class... We could be here debating that point for ever, I could argue that only since the class system was truly introduce in 94 can a big merc be called an S class. A pontoon or finnie is not what you would call a S class but the bigger limos of that era could be put in the S class category. However to keep the peace I think we could all agree that the 108/9 is the first real S class due to it's relatively large production run. Hendrik and his E class 123 230E - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 9th generation S-class... actually, there are only 5 generations of S class. The 116 being the first actualy S-class car. Christopher McCann wrote: excellent, thanks! W116 - 5th gen HA I'm no longer a gen-x-er. I'm a Gen-6-er!! Chris Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris, Try this link... It defines each generation.. http://www.mbusa.com/microsite/s-class/index.jsp Chuck Phoenix, AZ with one of the generations. a W116 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.15.2/253 - Release Date: 7/02/2006 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 9th generation S-class...
No matter where they started they seemed to have stopped with the W126. Of course it is hard to beat the perfection that is a W126 Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Gregory Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 9:41 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] 9th generation S-class... Why not agree with Mercedes? There was a Finnie S (300SE) and a Ponton S and a 108/109 S. ___ GG St. Louis - Cincinnati 1997 SL500 http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/Sites/My_Commanders.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Riessen Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 7:51 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 9th generation S-class... We could be here debating that point for ever, I could argue that only since the class system was truly introduce in 94 can a big merc be called an S class. A pontoon or finnie is not what you would call a S class but the bigger limos of that era could be put in the S class category. However to keep the peace I think we could all agree that the 108/9 is the first real S class due to it's relatively large production run. Hendrik and his E class 123 230E - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 9th generation S-class... actually, there are only 5 generations of S class. The 116 being the first actualy S-class car. Christopher McCann wrote: excellent, thanks! W116 - 5th gen HA I'm no longer a gen-x-er. I'm a Gen-6-er!! Chris Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris, Try this link... It defines each generation.. http://www.mbusa.com/microsite/s-class/index.jsp Chuck Phoenix, AZ with one of the generations. a W116 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.15.2/253 - Release Date: 7/02/2006 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 9th generation S-class...
On 2/8/06, George Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not agree with Mercedes? What fun would that be? You leave nothing to argue about! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] 9th generation S-class...
So, although all the models were listed under the S-class link, the video states that the W116 is the first S-Class car. On 2/8/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/8/06, George Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not agree with Mercedes? What fun would that be? You leave nothing to argue about! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] 9th generation S-class...
OK Don wrote: So, although all the models were listed under the S-class link, the video states that the W116 is the first S-Class car. Makes sense, the Super class couldn't exist until they had a proper compression engine for it. Maybe that's why the MBUSA link mentioned the year 1978 for the 116 generation.
Re: [MBZ] 9th generation S-class...
On 2/8/06 9:10 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, although all the models were listed under the S-class link, the video states that the W116 is the first S-Class car. No, it said the 116 was the first to be CALLED the S Class. But Kleb is the expert (cough hack) -- +-- GG 1997 SL500 (99k) http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm http://homepage.mac.com/deneals +--
Re: [MBZ] 9th generation S-class...
End of the day it does not matter, just a whole bunch of snobbery. Peasants in the A or C class and only well off people in the S and upper E classes. Of course if you really want to pose/show off then the sports or Maybach class is the go. I suppose the Maybach could be the SS class, then again I don't like the sound of that although propably in keeping with the attitude of the sort of people who own Maybachs:-) Hendrik with his nose in the air while being chauffered around in the E class, watching the riff raff scurry out of the way - Original Message - From: George Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 9th generation S-class... On 2/8/06 9:10 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, although all the models were listed under the S-class link, the video states that the W116 is the first S-Class car. No, it said the 116 was the first to be CALLED the S Class. But Kleb is the expert (cough hack) -- +-- GG 1997 SL500 (99k) http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm http://homepage.mac.com/deneals +-- ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.15.2/253 - Release Date: 7/02/2006
[MBZ] A First Generation (W116 6.9) S-Class Available
Hi all... With all this discussion about generations.. Maybe this will whet your appetitell Go for it.. the 6.9 is truly awesome Take care, usual disclaimer No financial involvement.. Chuck Phoenix AZ From another list: Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 21:34:50 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MB] '77 6.9 diamond blue - moving, must sell We are parting with our sports sedan. With the new job in central Michigan, there's not a heated garage nor the time to enjoy this great car. It's really fun to drive. In 2002 we took it from Kansas City to Ocean City, Maryland, and had fun all they way there and back: 2700 miles of cruising. Beautiful diamond blue metallic exterior, navy blue velour, and has 68,140 miles. I am the third owner and bought it from a collector who purchased it from the original owner's estate. Suspension - main hydraulic valve, pump, and front struts replaced 2000. No leaks, works as it should, latest check it has stayed up eight weeks, and can be lifted up as required. Original factory emergency rubber jacking blocks with cables in trunk. Climate control - A/C blows cold and is still on R-12, system has aluminum servo and works as it should. Drive train -- engine starts great, runs great, doesn't use any oil. Engine Bay is clean, with new hood pad. Transmission works well, no leaks, clean/crisp shifts. Wheels/Tires - nice Michelin 215/70R14 96S XWX on Bundt Rims. Exhaust - Stainless; cats were spent and removed. Body - exterior: No rust, Ziebarted by original owner, never driven in salt. Amazingly, I was working on both my diesels one afternoon, and asked my wife to take the 6.9 to pick up our kids at a birthday party. a neighbor kid ran his go-kart into the right front fender.so it was replaced and repainted/clear coated to match. Glass, chrome, and trim are very good. Doors latch and check straps function as required. Door rubber and trunk seal could be replaced if desired. Sunroof and all windows work, no leaks, and rear defroster works. Has always been covered in heated garage. Interior: Navy velour (rare US option), seats are firm and very comfortable in hot or cold weather. Gorgeous wood and dash, no cracks in either. Carpets, headliner, door padding, etc very good condition with no rips or tears. Original radio in box in trunk. Had an Alpine CD in dash which was removed. Hirshmann antenna works like it should. Accessories - everything works: cruise, turn signals, vacuum locks, wipers, under bumper driving lights, interior lights, cigar lighter, seat adjustments, glove box, and so on. All books, records, receipts, owners manual, factory data card and tools are available. Names of previous owners are known, name and phone of previous owner's mechanic and current mechanic. 50 pictures at 2MB each available by email. Appraised for $16500. Asking $14500. Moving 28 February, must sell. David Drum Topeka, KS 785-249-2214
Re: [MBZ] 9th generation S-class...
which is what I was saying. OK Don wrote: So, although all the models were listed under the S-class link, the video states that the W116 is the first S-Class car. On 2/8/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/8/06, George Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not agree with Mercedes? What fun would that be? You leave nothing to argue about! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] A First Generation (W116 6.9) S-Class Available
thats a little steep since 6.9 prices are in the toilet these days. Chuck Landenberger wrote: Hi all... With all this discussion about generations.. Maybe this will whet your appetitell Go for it.. the 6.9 is truly awesome Take care, usual disclaimer No financial involvement.. Chuck Phoenix AZ From another list: Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 21:34:50 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MB] '77 6.9 diamond blue - moving, must sell We are parting with our sports sedan. With the new job in central Michigan, there's not a heated garage nor the time to enjoy this great car. It's really fun to drive. In 2002 we took it from Kansas City to Ocean City, Maryland, and had fun all they way there and back: 2700 miles of cruising. Beautiful diamond blue metallic exterior, navy blue velour, and has 68,140 miles. I am the third owner and bought it from a collector who purchased it from the original owner's estate. Suspension - main hydraulic valve, pump, and front struts replaced 2000. No leaks, works as it should, latest check it has stayed up eight weeks, and can be lifted up as required. Original factory emergency rubber jacking blocks with cables in trunk. Climate control - A/C blows cold and is still on R-12, system has aluminum servo and works as it should. Drive train -- engine starts great, runs great, doesn't use any oil. Engine Bay is clean, with new hood pad. Transmission works well, no leaks, clean/crisp shifts. Wheels/Tires - nice Michelin 215/70R14 96S XWX on Bundt Rims. Exhaust - Stainless; cats were spent and removed. Body - exterior: No rust, Ziebarted by original owner, never driven in salt. Amazingly, I was working on both my diesels one afternoon, and asked my wife to take the 6.9 to pick up our kids at a birthday party. a neighbor kid ran his go-kart into the right front fender.so it was replaced and repainted/clear coated to match. Glass, chrome, and trim are very good. Doors latch and check straps function as required. Door rubber and trunk seal could be replaced if desired. Sunroof and all windows work, no leaks, and rear defroster works. Has always been covered in heated garage. Interior: Navy velour (rare US option), seats are firm and very comfortable in hot or cold weather. Gorgeous wood and dash, no cracks in either. Carpets, headliner, door padding, etc very good condition with no rips or tears. Original radio in box in trunk. Had an Alpine CD in dash which was removed. Hirshmann antenna works like it should. Accessories - everything works: cruise, turn signals, vacuum locks, wipers, under bumper driving lights, interior lights, cigar lighter, seat adjustments, glove box, and so on. All books, records, receipts, owners manual, factory data card and tools are available. Names of previous owners are known, name and phone of previous owner's mechanic and current mechanic. 50 pictures at 2MB each available by email. Appraised for $16500. Asking $14500. Moving 28 February, must sell. David Drum Topeka, KS 785-249-2214 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 9th generation S-class...
On 2/8/06, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could argue that only since the class system was truly introduce in 94 can a big merc be called an S class. I know the term S-class was commonplace (or at least became commonplace) sometime during the lifetime of the 126, though I don't have any handy way of proving it---it's just something I remember from '80s car magazines. The rest of the letter-based class system was definitely an invention of the Mercedes marketing department for the 1994 model year, though. I snicker whenever anyone refers to a 123 as an E-class. (Although that's not as bad as when people refer to a 300 or 500 Mercedes, etc., as if that means anything without the letters. Isn't eBay's category system still set up that way---as if the numbers indicated a chassis like they do with BMWs?) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo
Re: [MBZ] 9th generation S-class...
it's real revisionist. to my mind, the first S-class as such was the W116 the 108s and 109s are just gussied up finless finbacks On 2/8/06, George Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/8/06 11:12 AM, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris, Try this link... It defines each generation.. http://www.mbusa.com/microsite/s-class/index.jsp Chuck Phoenix, AZ with one of the generations. a W116 Great site, Chuck. But if you don't have broadband or cannot utilize Macromedia Flash 8, as a public service here is a summary: 1st 1951 W187 2nd 1954 W180 (Ponton) 1st unibody car 3rd 1959 W111/112 (Finnie) 1st concept of passenger cell 4th 1965 W108 /109 (designed by a Frenchie) 5th 1978 W116 First to be called S Class; first car anywhere with ABS 6th 1981 W126 1st car with Driver's Air Bag and seat belt tensioners 7th 1992 W140 8th 1998 W220 9th 2007 W221 -- +-- GG 1997 SL500 (99k) http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm http://homepage.mac.com/deneals +-- ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] A First Generation (W116 6.9) S-Class Available
it's all a matter of condition. all m100 prices have been in the toilet for years. better examples will command higher prices. the rest will become parts cars. On 2/8/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thats a little steep since 6.9 prices are in the toilet these days. Chuck Landenberger wrote: Hi all... With all this discussion about generations.. Maybe this will whet your appetitell Go for it.. the 6.9 is truly awesome Take care, usual disclaimer No financial involvement.. Chuck Phoenix AZ From another list: Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 21:34:50 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MB] '77 6.9 diamond blue - moving, must sell We are parting with our sports sedan. With the new job in central Michigan, there's not a heated garage nor the time to enjoy this great car. It's really fun to drive. In 2002 we took it from Kansas City to Ocean City, Maryland, and had fun all they way there and back: 2700 miles of cruising. Beautiful diamond blue metallic exterior, navy blue velour, and has 68,140 miles. I am the third owner and bought it from a collector who purchased it from the original owner's estate. Suspension - main hydraulic valve, pump, and front struts replaced 2000. No leaks, works as it should, latest check it has stayed up eight weeks, and can be lifted up as required. Original factory emergency rubber jacking blocks with cables in trunk. Climate control - A/C blows cold and is still on R-12, system has aluminum servo and works as it should. Drive train -- engine starts great, runs great, doesn't use any oil. Engine Bay is clean, with new hood pad. Transmission works well, no leaks, clean/crisp shifts. Wheels/Tires - nice Michelin 215/70R14 96S XWX on Bundt Rims. Exhaust - Stainless; cats were spent and removed. Body - exterior: No rust, Ziebarted by original owner, never driven in salt. Amazingly, I was working on both my diesels one afternoon, and asked my wife to take the 6.9 to pick up our kids at a birthday party. a neighbor kid ran his go-kart into the right front fender.so it was replaced and repainted/clear coated to match. Glass, chrome, and trim are very good. Doors latch and check straps function as required. Door rubber and trunk seal could be replaced if desired. Sunroof and all windows work, no leaks, and rear defroster works. Has always been covered in heated garage. Interior: Navy velour (rare US option), seats are firm and very comfortable in hot or cold weather. Gorgeous wood and dash, no cracks in either. Carpets, headliner, door padding, etc very good condition with no rips or tears. Original radio in box in trunk. Had an Alpine CD in dash which was removed. Hirshmann antenna works like it should. Accessories - everything works: cruise, turn signals, vacuum locks, wipers, under bumper driving lights, interior lights, cigar lighter, seat adjustments, glove box, and so on. All books, records, receipts, owners manual, factory data card and tools are available. Names of previous owners are known, name and phone of previous owner's mechanic and current mechanic. 50 pictures at 2MB each available by email. Appraised for $16500. Asking $14500. Moving 28 February, must sell. David Drum Topeka, KS 785-249-2214 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] A First Generation (W116 6.9) S-Class Available
Kaleb, As you know, any buy/sell transaction is dependent on what the buyer and seller consider to be an agreeable price. To say that 6.9 prices are in the toilet does not take that factor into consideration. I try not to paint any situation with a broad brush Unfortunately or fortunately.. I can't afford this 6.9. But if I could, I might... Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Feb 8, 2006, at 9:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: thats a little steep since 6.9 prices are in the toilet these days. Chuck Landenberger wrote: Hi all... With all this discussion about generations.. Maybe this will whet your appetitell Go for it.. the 6.9 is truly awesome Take care, usual disclaimer No financial involvement.. Chuck Phoenix AZ From another list: Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 21:34:50 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MB] '77 6.9 diamond blue - moving, must sell We are parting with our sports sedan. With the new job in central Michigan, there's not a heated garage nor the time to enjoy this great car. It's really fun to drive. In 2002 we took it from Kansas City to Ocean City, Maryland, and had fun all they way there and back: 2700 miles of cruising. Beautiful diamond blue metallic exterior, navy blue velour, and has 68,140 miles. I am the third owner and bought it from a collector who purchased it from the original owner's estate. Suspension - main hydraulic valve, pump, and front struts replaced 2000. No leaks, works as it should, latest check it has stayed up eight weeks, and can be lifted up as required. Original factory emergency rubber jacking blocks with cables in trunk. Climate control - A/C blows cold and is still on R-12, system has aluminum servo and works as it should. Drive train -- engine starts great, runs great, doesn't use any oil. Engine Bay is clean, with new hood pad. Transmission works well, no leaks, clean/crisp shifts. Wheels/Tires - nice Michelin 215/70R14 96S XWX on Bundt Rims. Exhaust - Stainless; cats were spent and removed. Body - exterior: No rust, Ziebarted by original owner, never driven in salt. Amazingly, I was working on both my diesels one afternoon, and asked my wife to take the 6.9 to pick up our kids at a birthday party. a neighbor kid ran his go-kart into the right front fender.so it was replaced and repainted/clear coated to match. Glass, chrome, and trim are very good. Doors latch and check straps function as required. Door rubber and trunk seal could be replaced if desired. Sunroof and all windows work, no leaks, and rear defroster works. Has always been covered in heated garage. Interior: Navy velour (rare US option), seats are firm and very comfortable in hot or cold weather. Gorgeous wood and dash, no cracks in either. Carpets, headliner, door padding, etc very good condition with no rips or tears. Original radio in box in trunk. Had an Alpine CD in dash which was removed. Hirshmann antenna works like it should. Accessories - everything works: cruise, turn signals, vacuum locks, wipers, under bumper driving lights, interior lights, cigar lighter, seat adjustments, glove box, and so on. All books, records, receipts, owners manual, factory data card and tools are available. Names of previous owners are known, name and phone of previous owner's mechanic and current mechanic. 50 pictures at 2MB each available by email. Appraised for $16500. Asking $14500. Moving 28 February, must sell. David Drum Topeka, KS 785-249-2214 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Hey Johnny B. RE: Amsoil
On the west coast it is readily available at Kragen and at Schuck's Auto Parts (same chain, two different names depending whether you're in Oregon or California.) I don't know if they have stores in TX---I think Checker is the same chain as well? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo On 2/8/06, Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've searched every Walmart in town for Mobil1 5W40 as well. I'm starting to get desparate as I REALLY need to do an oil change, but only have 1 jug of 15W50 left. Two Walmarts still have a label on the shelf, but didn't have any in stock. Guy at one of those told me he hadn't been able to get it. He also mentioned that it looked like the extended performance versions were going away as well. No loss there. Three other Walmarts don't even have shelf space for it any more. Had the auto manager at one store this morning tell me he wasn't going to stock it at all. Said it hadn't been very popular. When I pointed out that the shelves were always empty, he didn't have a good answer. I may be forced to find an alternative or a different source. :^( Gary Thompson Georgetown, TX 1995 E320 On 2/8/06, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Johnny B, What weight of Amsoil are you running in your cars? I drove all around last weekend looking for Mobil 1 5w40 for my 190D and had zero luck. Every place I went to carried it but none actually HAD any. A guy at one Wal-Mart told me they sell out quick. Whats extra irritating is a couple weeks ago I was at Wal-Mart and they had a bunch but I didn't get any. That'll teach me. Anyway I'm considering Amsoil and so checking out their site. I'm thinking the XL 10w40 or AFL 5w40. The XL is cheaper, a bit cheaper than Mobil 1 even although shipping will probably fix that. I'd be interested to hear from you and any other Amsoil folks that are around. -Curt '85 190D Dory 233kmi '83 240D Hammie 253kmi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Interesting web site
On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 08:50:36 -0800 (PST) Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pretty sure it's just in German. But German is quite similar to English and you can figure some of it out. What would be really helpful would be a German-English English-German car vocab lexicon. Also, there's always babelfish http://babelfish.altavista.com/translate.dyn You can translate pasted text, or a web page by pasting the URL. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Hey Johnny B. RE: Amsoil
On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 19:00:53 -0500 John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I/my vehicles are a good test bed for cold performance due to my geographical location. Which is where? Craig
Re: [MBZ] OT: oil change humor - quite funny
On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 21:49:57 -0500 Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could do a Prestone flush (alkaline) (removes oils) followed by a citric acid flush (ala MB) (removes scale) then flush with LOTS of water SEVERAL times. My 2¢ Rick Knoble Out of curiousity, what kind of pump would I use to circulate the Prestone and Citric Acid? WATER and citric acid. I'm assuming (and we all know how destructive that can be) that I will have removed the radiator and heater core by this point, as I know at least the radiator can not be saved. (Thing leaks like pasta in a collander) Or do I need to try and run this through the entire existing system? Before replacement parts are ready to be installed? Though that seems like it would flush scale from places that are going to be scraped anyway should a google of radiator flush help here, or do I need more info? I'm in a similar situation (though my radiator doesn't leak), and I'm going to flush the system with the old radiator installed and then change over to the new radiator. You want to put in the citric acid and water and then run the engine. Craig
Re: [MBZ] OT: oil change humor - quite funny
Quick Google yielded a MBZ part number for Citric Acid Powder? From: John Marks ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Date: Thu 12 Sep 2002 - 10:35:04 EDT Next message: Carl Ileka: RE: SPAM!!! Previous message: Mike Aube: Re: Re: A small Peugeot adventure In reply to: Mike Aube: Re: Re: A small Peugeot adventure Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] On 9/12/02 10:04 AM, Mike Aube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The lemon juice is Citric Acid powder sold by Mercedes-Benz. A member on this list mentioned it this summer and I went and bought some. There is no part number on the bottle and no instructions. The first time I used it, I dumped the whole bottle in (27.00$ worth cdn) and wasn't too impressed with it although there was better improvement with it then any other product. For the drive, I added three table spoons worth, within a 100 kms, you should see the mud in there, it really moved stuff around and no more running hot or gurgling on shut down. Hi- The MBZ Part No. for Citric Acid is 000-989-10-25. The procedure is to drain and flush the system and then refill with water and the acid powder dissolved in 1 qt. or liter of warm water. You then have to get it up to operating temperature and hold it there for 20 to 30 minutes while running the heater. WARNING: If the only thing between your system and leaking is calcium buildup, this will remove the calcium, and you will get leaks! If you really want to go crazy, MBZ has a separate de-oiler product that removes oil and grease from your cooling system: 001-986-21-71 WARNING: After using either or both of these products, you MUST flush at least three times with clean water, running the system to operating temperature for 20 to 30 minutes with the heater on. Residue from either will prematurely age new antifreeze coolant. Done right, either is a half-day job, both eat up a whole day, and also generate a lot of waste water, which is why the dealers never do it, they just use the machine which allegedly pushes in new coolant and pushes out the old coolant. My one experience with that was a never again. The idiot kid the dealer had running the machine didn't know that you had to open up the heater core valves, so the new coolant was contaminated with 1.5L of old. At that point I said let me do this myself and right. I am mulling over doing it again and putting in the Xerex Extend that you put in full strength and is good for three years. Ciao, __ John Marks John Marks Records: http://www.jmrcds.com Free newsletter on culture and the arts: http://www.topica.com/lists/jmrcds -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Re: [MBZ] 9th generation S-class...
Mercedes marketing department for the 1994 model year, though. I snicker whenever anyone refers to a 123 as an E-class. (Although that's not as bad Well, the 280E was probably equivalent. as when people refer to a 300 or 500 Mercedes, etc., as if that means anything without the letters. Isn't eBay's category system still set up Used to be. They only put bigger motors in the better cars, but that has changed, probably about the time that S made its debut. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] OT: oil change humor - quite funny
On Wednesday, February 8, 2006, at 08:05 PM, Ed Booher wrote: .. still need a radiator, as the cause of the blown hose was the corrosion in the radiator to begin with, which probably means I might as well go ahead and change the water pump and thermostat, for good measure since corrosion is in engine block and heater core as well better replace core and all other hoses. Wonder if I can pressure wash the block with fresh coolant / water before allowing what is currently in block into new core and radiator. Maybe I'd better pay to have it done, ay? Huh? Is your cooling system loaded with lye or muriatic acid or sumpin? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] 9th generation S-class...
I suppose we could call the pre 124 compact models T (for taxi) class:-) Is it true that the S in S class stands for snob (or was it scheisse)? Hendrik - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 9th generation S-class... On 2/8/06, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could argue that only since the class system was truly introduce in 94 can a big merc be called an S class. I know the term S-class was commonplace (or at least became commonplace) sometime during the lifetime of the 126, though I don't have any handy way of proving it---it's just something I remember from '80s car magazines. The rest of the letter-based class system was definitely an invention of the Mercedes marketing department for the 1994 model year, though. I snicker whenever anyone refers to a 123 as an E-class. (Although that's not as bad as when people refer to a 300 or 500 Mercedes, etc., as if that means anything without the letters. Isn't eBay's category system still set up that way---as if the numbers indicated a chassis like they do with BMWs?) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.15.2/253 - Release Date: 7/02/2006
Re: [MBZ] Hey Johnny B. RE: Amsoil
On Wednesday, February 8, 2006, at 08:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Then you tack on my 15% commission on each sale... Absolutely. Now where was I. Oh oil.. That dino stuff is dayum good, mineral oil,olive oil, oil of Olay its all good. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] OT: oil change humor - quite funny
On 2/9/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Huh? Is your cooling system loaded with lye or muriatic acid or sumpin? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am It's loaded with something :) It's a beautiful sea foam blue green color both inside and outside the radiator. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Re: [MBZ] OT: oil change humor - quite funny
On Wednesday, February 8, 2006, at 09:49 PM, Ed Booher wrote: Out of curiousity, what kind of pump would I use to circulate the Prestone and Citric Acid? I'm assuming (and we all know how destructive that can be) that I will have removed the radiator and heater core by this point, as I know at least the radiator can not be saved. (Thing leaks like pasta in a collander) Or do I need to try and run this through the entire existing system? Before replacement parts are ready to be installed? Though that seems like it would flush scale from places that are going to be scraped anyway should a google of radiator flush help here, or do I need more info? Maybe you're right, better pay someone to do it. I'll do it for ya. Sounds like you're getting emotionally prepared to donate a couple thousand to your fave mechanic's kid's college fund. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] OT: oil change humor - quite funny
On 2/9/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe you're right, better pay someone to do it. I'll do it for ya. Sounds like you're getting emotionally prepared to donate a couple thousand to your fave mechanic's kid's college fund. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am Yeah, me and Frank are on a first name basis. Actually, it gets even worse. My dealership loves me so much, that a newer service writer that has only seen me a couple of times in my Green Galant (which is the car that does get seen the most) saw me in this silver Diamante for the first time and knew me by name. Didn't even ask any questions. I handed her the keys to the car, told her I needed the radio code and an oil change, and walked away. Mr. Booher, your car is ready. *sighs* The cashier even said In again? Let's see how much it was today. When the service manager walked me over to pay. (He came in because I was not very happy at the time, and he was trying to smooth things over.) I think I've paid a few tuitions. At least for a semester or two. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Re: [MBZ] Hey Johnny B. RE: Amsoil
On Thursday, February 9, 2006, at 12:31 AM, Craig McCluskey wrote: I/my vehicles are a good test bed for cold performance due to my geographical location. Which is where? Craig Adirondack Region, NY.. where the men are men and the sheep run scared. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] Hey Johnny B. RE: Amsoil
Don;t you people sleep??
Re: [MBZ] Hey Johnny B. RE: Amsoil
You are awake too and in my case, I'm at work. On 2/9/06, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don;t you people sleep?? -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Re: [MBZ] Hey Johnny B. RE: Amsoil
I'm just in from work!
Re: [MBZ] OT: oil change humor - quite funny
On Thursday, February 9, 2006, at 03:42 AM, Ed Booher wrote: I think I've paid a few tuitions. At least for a semester or two. I strongly suggest you pay attention here lest you find yourself homeless..s'pose you could live in your broke-down benz. Cooling systems are not that sensitive. Drain the radiator and block, refill, run, do it again then use a proper cooling system flush, following directions along the way. Not even close to rocket science but effective. I think Rusty sells Tang or some other citric powdered drink, there are a few write-ups on the subject. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] Hey Johnny B. RE: Amsoil
On Thursday, February 9, 2006, at 03:46 AM, Jeff Zedic wrote: Don;t you people sleep?? No. There's plenty of time for that when I die. Actually I fell asleep too early, knowing it will be futile to attempt sleep and a little early for running pneumatic impact tools, I find myself here pushing snake-oil and other home remedies on the unsuspecting masses. What's your story, returning from a concert? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] OT: oil change humor - quite funny
On 2/9/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I strongly suggest you pay attention here lest you find yourself homeless..s'pose you could live in your broke-down benz. Cooling systems are not that sensitive. Drain the radiator and block, refill, run, do it again then use a proper cooling system flush, following directions along the way. Not even close to rocket science but effective. I think Rusty sells Tang or some other citric powdered drink, there are a few write-ups on the subject. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am Nah, I don't own a Benz yet. I own three Mitsu's 94 Mitsu Galant LS 94 Mitsu Diamante LS 03 Mitsu Galant ES and just missed a 70 108 in WA but there will be others. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
[MBZ] Nice safe car for the family
http://paultan.org/archives/2005/10/08/jiangling-landwind-x6-crash-test-by-tuv/ http://paultan.org/archives/2005/10/07/jiangling-landwind-x6-crash-test-outside-view/ http://paultan.org/archives/2005/10/07/jiangling-landwind-x6-crash-test-passenger-cabin/ This is Chinese 4x4 undergoing crash testing in Germany. The phrase cheap and nasty comes to mind. Hendrik From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 09 09:13:54 2006 Received: from pop-knobcone.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([207.69.195.64]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F77sA-0005tK-GD for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 09:13:54 + Received: from user-10mt01r.cable.mindspring.com ([65.110.128.59] heloêrthlink.net) by pop-knobcone.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1F77s8-0007cY-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 04:13:52 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 04:13:50 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Johnny B. RE: Amsoil X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 09:13:55 - On Thursday, February 9, 2006, at 04:06 AM, John Berryman wrote: On Thursday, February 9, 2006, at 03:46 AM, Jeff Zedic wrote: Don;t you people sleep?? No. There's plenty of time for that when I die. Actually I fell asleep too early, knowing it will be futile to attempt sleep and a little early for running pneumatic impact tools, I find myself here pushing snake-oil and other home remedies on the unsuspecting masses. What's your story, returning from a concert? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am I'm putting up a pot of Ethiopian Yirgacheff, after noisily grinding beans in basement to avoid waking my amazingly wonderful wife. Heavy cream, no sugar. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
[MBZ] Crazy price for Aussie muscle car
G'day mates, Just to let you know, ebay Oz in conjunction with our local GM mob are auctioning off the last Monaro (I think you know them as GTO pontiac or something like that) anyway check it out http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4611976689 Hendrik who will not be bidding From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 09 09:40:34 2006 Received: from elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.69]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F78Hy-0008DF-DM for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 09:40:34 + DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; dêrthlink.net; b=DkXg2pe29opioHYVBtxPgjX8r3zl7ESfa8/0TGxF4m8eT/PyWfYoCoHgHpXY+Dvt; h=Received:Date:Subject:Content-Type:Mime-Version:From:To:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [65.110.128.59] (heloêrthlink.net) by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1F78Hv-Ht-PU for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 04:40:31 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 04:28:43 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-ELNK-Trace: b3baf86f04a51c2f0f36c4a2948c83129ef193a6bfc3dd48c4828d2b4a4f52c9c9a48ee73f2873c193caf27dac41a8fd350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 65.110.128.59 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Nice safe car for the family X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 09:40:35 - On Thursday, February 9, 2006, at 04:11 AM, Hendrik Riessen wrote: The phrase cheap and nasty comes to mind. Hendrik Deathmobile, coffin etc come to mind. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] OT: oil change humor - quite funny
On Thursday, February 9, 2006, at 04:11 AM, Ed Booher wrote: Nah, I don't own a Benz yet. I own three Mitsu's Well get you one!! Living in a Mitsubishi is not conducive to cervical spine health. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] OT: oil change humor - quite funny
On 2/9/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well get you one!! Living in a Mitsubishi is not conducive to cervical spine health. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am *laughs* Ain't that the truth? I actually miss my 56 Bel Air ... I could get *into* the engine bay to work. Mitsu's I can't even get my hands around the engine. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Re: [MBZ] OT: oil change humor - quite funny
I would flush the current system before removing any components. It is a shame that we can't find the old DuPont No. 7 flush anymore. It really worked well on the old iron blocks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Booher Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 8:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: oil change humor - quite funny On 2/8/06, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonder if I can pressure wash the block with fresh coolant / water before allowing what is currently in block into new core and radiator. You could do a Prestone flush (alkaline) (removes oils) followed by a citric acid flush (ala MB) (removes scale) then flush with LOTS of water SEVERAL times. My 2¢ Rick Knoble Out of curiousity, what kind of pump would I use to circulate the Prestone and Citric Acid? I'm assuming (and we all know how destructive that can be) that I will have removed the radiator and heater core by this point, as I know at least the radiator can not be saved. (Thing leaks like pasta in a collander) Or do I need to try and run this through the entire existing system? Before replacement parts are ready to be installed? Though that seems like it would flush scale from places that are going to be scraped anyway should a google of radiator flush help here, or do I need more info? -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Cold WX Trans Cooler Line Failure
Isn't that the SD that you were wanting me to take off of your hands a few months ago? :-) On 2/9/06, Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A year or so ago, I patched the trans cooler line on my 300SD by slipping fuel line over the break and firmly attaching both ends with stainless worm-drive hose clamps, torqued down until rubber was popping through the holes in the clamps. -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] Cold WX Trans Cooler Line Failure
You will usually be OK as long as trans did not start slipping real bad and you tried to keep driving. Also it is better to repair trans cooler lines using compression fittings from local hardware store. Additionally you can use flare fittings too. I have found that with the rubber hose clamp method people make a couple of mistakes. First they use fuel line, which is not designed for high pressure and may not be ATF safe. You need to use high pressure hose designed for ATF. The second problem is that the metal line is smooth and easy for rubber to slide off, especially when metal contracts when it is cold outside. Therefore I will often use two clamps on each side. However it is best if you can use a flare type tool to create a ridge or barbs. Using two clamps and the correct type of hose, I have done several trans cooler line repairs and never have had a problem. I have tried regular fuel line and always end up with leaks. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LT Don Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 8:41 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold WX Trans Cooler Line Failure Isn't that the SD that you were wanting me to take off of your hands a few months ago? :-) On 2/9/06, Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A year or so ago, I patched the trans cooler line on my 300SD by slipping fuel line over the break and firmly attaching both ends with stainless worm-drive hose clamps, torqued down until rubber was popping through the holes in the clamps. -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Hey Johnny B. RE: Amsoil
you are working at 2:48am?? Ed Booher wrote: You are awake too and in my case, I'm at work. On 2/9/06, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don;t you people sleep?? -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Nice safe car for the family
The air bag really helped alot, especially when the whole dash and steering wheel slammed into the dudes head. That is the worse I have seen!! Hendrik Riessen wrote: http://paultan.org/archives/2005/10/08/jiangling-landwind-x6-crash-test-by-tuv/ http://paultan.org/archives/2005/10/07/jiangling-landwind-x6-crash-test-outside-view/ http://paultan.org/archives/2005/10/07/jiangling-landwind-x6-crash-test-passenger-cabin/ This is Chinese 4x4 undergoing crash testing in Germany. The phrase cheap and nasty comes to mind. Hendrik ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Cold WX Trans Cooler Line Failure
I changed the R hard cooler line on my trans without jacking the engine or removing the engine mount. It slides right in with just a little twisting and turning. No need to bend it. Luther ~ ~A year or so ago, I patched the trans cooler line on my 300SD by ~slipping fuel line over the break and firmly attaching both ends with ~stainless worm-drive hose clamps, torqued down until rubber was ~popping through the holes in the clamps. ~ ~Worked fine at speeds of up to 90, full throttle shifts, etc. for a ~year, and I had been reassured by the list, notably including Doktor ~Booth, that there was little pressure in the line and I (to quote) ~SHOULD be ok, but that replacing the line would the the BETTER ~solution. He was right, on both counts. Of course. ~ ~I was delighted that Sadie started right up with only one glow and no ~block heater at 4 above this morning. Three blocks later the trans ~started slipping. Turned around and barely made it back in the drive, ~to find a large pool of trans fluid on the pavement where I'd started. ~ ~Apparently very cold trans fluid makes enough pressure to pop off ~hose clamps. I'll get a tow down to my local indy for a fluid and ~filter change, including a TC drain, and to have them install the new ~line I bought from Rusty ages ago but chickened out on replacing when ~I found I'd have to unbolt an engine mount and lift the engine. ~ ~Should I be worried about any trans damage I may have done in the 6 ~blocks of driving I did as the trans was emptying? ~ ~Dan ~-- ~Dan Weeks ~82 VW Westfalia 1.6 TD conversion 186k ~82 Mercedes 300SD, 278k ~ ~___ ~http://www.striplin.net ~For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ ~For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ ~To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: ~http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (230,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,222 kmi) '90 300E '82 300D (parts or run?)
Re: [MBZ] Cold WX Trans Cooler Line Failure
Why would you have to lift the engine to replace the cooler line? Its only about a foot long between the front of the engine metal lines and the radiator. Or are you saying your metal lines are leaking? Even so, you shouldnt have to raise the engine any. Dan Weeks wrote: A year or so ago, I patched the trans cooler line on my 300SD by slipping fuel line over the break and firmly attaching both ends with stainless worm-drive hose clamps, torqued down until rubber was popping through the holes in the clamps. Worked fine at speeds of up to 90, full throttle shifts, etc. for a year, and I had been reassured by the list, notably including Doktor Booth, that there was little pressure in the line and I (to quote) SHOULD be ok, but that replacing the line would the the BETTER solution. He was right, on both counts. Of course. I was delighted that Sadie started right up with only one glow and no block heater at 4 above this morning. Three blocks later the trans started slipping. Turned around and barely made it back in the drive, to find a large pool of trans fluid on the pavement where I'd started. Apparently very cold trans fluid makes enough pressure to pop off hose clamps. I'll get a tow down to my local indy for a fluid and filter change, including a TC drain, and to have them install the new line I bought from Rusty ages ago but chickened out on replacing when I found I'd have to unbolt an engine mount and lift the engine. Should I be worried about any trans damage I may have done in the 6 blocks of driving I did as the trans was emptying? Dan -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] A First Generation (W116 6.9) S-Class Available
I personally find the velour interiors to be uncomfortale and unattractive and for $14,500 I would rather purchase another 111 coupe, e.g. 250SE. On 2/8/06, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb, As you know, any buy/sell transaction is dependent on what the buyer and seller consider to be an agreeable price. To say that 6.9 prices are in the toilet does not take that factor into consideration. I try not to paint any situation with a broad brush Unfortunately or fortunately.. I can't afford this 6.9. But if I could, I might... Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Feb 8, 2006, at 9:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: thats a little steep since 6.9 prices are in the toilet these days. Chuck Landenberger wrote: Hi all... With all this discussion about generations.. Maybe this will whet your appetitell Go for it.. the 6.9 is truly awesome Take care, usual disclaimer No financial involvement.. Chuck Phoenix AZ From another list: Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 21:34:50 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MB] '77 6.9 diamond blue - moving, must sell We are parting with our sports sedan. With the new job in central Michigan, there's not a heated garage nor the time to enjoy this great car. It's really fun to drive. In 2002 we took it from Kansas City to Ocean City, Maryland, and had fun all they way there and back: 2700 miles of cruising. Beautiful diamond blue metallic exterior, navy blue velour, and has 68,140 miles. I am the third owner and bought it from a collector who purchased it from the original owner's estate. Suspension - main hydraulic valve, pump, and front struts replaced 2000. No leaks, works as it should, latest check it has stayed up eight weeks, and can be lifted up as required. Original factory emergency rubber jacking blocks with cables in trunk. Climate control - A/C blows cold and is still on R-12, system has aluminum servo and works as it should. Drive train -- engine starts great, runs great, doesn't use any oil. Engine Bay is clean, with new hood pad. Transmission works well, no leaks, clean/crisp shifts. Wheels/Tires - nice Michelin 215/70R14 96S XWX on Bundt Rims. Exhaust - Stainless; cats were spent and removed. Body - exterior: No rust, Ziebarted by original owner, never driven in salt. Amazingly, I was working on both my diesels one afternoon, and asked my wife to take the 6.9 to pick up our kids at a birthday party. a neighbor kid ran his go-kart into the right front fender.so it was replaced and repainted/clear coated to match. Glass, chrome, and trim are very good. Doors latch and check straps function as required. Door rubber and trunk seal could be replaced if desired. Sunroof and all windows work, no leaks, and rear defroster works. Has always been covered in heated garage. Interior: Navy velour (rare US option), seats are firm and very comfortable in hot or cold weather. Gorgeous wood and dash, no cracks in either. Carpets, headliner, door padding, etc very good condition with no rips or tears. Original radio in box in trunk. Had an Alpine CD in dash which was removed. Hirshmann antenna works like it should. Accessories - everything works: cruise, turn signals, vacuum locks, wipers, under bumper driving lights, interior lights, cigar lighter, seat adjustments, glove box, and so on. All books, records, receipts, owners manual, factory data card and tools are available. Names of previous owners are known, name and phone of previous owner's mechanic and current mechanic. 50 pictures at 2MB each available by email. Appraised for $16500. Asking $14500. Moving 28 February, must sell. David Drum Topeka, KS 785-249-2214 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 9th generation S-class...
It might be scheisse for the 2007 model, but I thinik it was Sport in the older ones...meaning touring more or less, I think. SL (sport leicht) for what an American would consider a sports car...no? Chris Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suppose we could call the pre 124 compact models T (for taxi) class:-) Is it true that the S in S class stands for snob (or was it scheisse)? Hendrik - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 9th generation S-class... On 2/8/06, Hendrik Riessen wrote: I could argue that only since the class system was truly introduce in 94 can a big merc be called an S class. I know the term S-class was commonplace (or at least became commonplace) sometime during the lifetime of the 126, though I don't have any handy way of proving it---it's just something I remember from '80s car magazines. The rest of the letter-based class system was definitely an invention of the Mercedes marketing department for the 1994 model year, though. I snicker whenever anyone refers to a 123 as an E-class. (Although that's not as bad as when people refer to a 300 or 500 Mercedes, etc., as if that means anything without the letters. Isn't eBay's category system still set up that way---as if the numbers indicated a chassis like they do with BMWs?) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.15.2/253 - Release Date: 7/02/2006 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 09 15:08:06 2006 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.201]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F7DOv-0004d2-Ve for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 15:08:06 + Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i1so236318nzh for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 07:08:04 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=W5GAmlieAl0nyD7ZKCYwriIvc9lpH/vtA1X0ChSUpUs8kNZ1PNqOr3+Uc82DFdBSuDZTKgJOXrBMpDLyP3k7NfHKi+Pdo09sHdo12bGTbv3ng2WtTShd8/HMC28XmxSHkH+fWx38NhJcRs9QWXQqxckEPtq9uHNGiO8vbfxZdk0= Received: by 10.36.247.65 with SMTP id u65mr6280436nzh; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 07:08:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.36.105.19 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Feb 2006 07:08:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 10:08:04 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Crazy price for Aussie muscle car X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 15:08:06 - What's that in US Dollars? On 2/9/06, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day mates, Just to let you know, ebay Oz in conjunction with our local GM mob are auctioning off the last Monaro (I think you know them as GTO pontiac or something like that) anyway check it out
Re: [MBZ] Cold WX Trans Cooler Line Failure
Dan, You should be OK with just a few blocks of driving. BTDT. Of course my daughter completely muched a 722.315 by driving (probably at considerable speed, knowing her) until the car wouldn't go any more when one of the transmission cooler lines blew. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 2/9/06, Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A year or so ago, I patched the trans cooler line on my 300SD by slipping fuel line over the break and firmly attaching both ends with stainless worm-drive hose clamps, torqued down until rubber was popping through the holes in the clamps. Worked fine at speeds of up to 90, full throttle shifts, etc. for a year, and I had been reassured by the list, notably including Doktor Booth, that there was little pressure in the line and I (to quote) SHOULD be ok, but that replacing the line would the the BETTER solution. He was right, on both counts. Of course. I was delighted that Sadie started right up with only one glow and no block heater at 4 above this morning. Three blocks later the trans started slipping. Turned around and barely made it back in the drive, to find a large pool of trans fluid on the pavement where I'd started. Apparently very cold trans fluid makes enough pressure to pop off hose clamps. I'll get a tow down to my local indy for a fluid and filter change, including a TC drain, and to have them install the new line I bought from Rusty ages ago but chickened out on replacing when I found I'd have to unbolt an engine mount and lift the engine. Should I be worried about any trans damage I may have done in the 6 blocks of driving I did as the trans was emptying?
Re: [MBZ] Hey Johnny B. RE: Amsoil
On Thursday, February 9, 2006, at 09:46 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I think johnny b is a vampire, he stays up all night and sleeps all day. I just don't require much sleep, its been like that all my life. Never could sleep during the day. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] Cold WX Trans Cooler Line Failure
On Thursday, February 9, 2006, at 09:52 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Why would you have to lift the engine to replace the cooler line? Its only about a foot long between the front of the engine metal lines and the radiator. Or are you saying your metal lines are leaking? Even so, you shouldnt have to raise the engine any. Maybe they're thinking motor oil cooler lines? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] Cold WX Trans Cooler Line Failure
That would make sense. John Berryman wrote: On Thursday, February 9, 2006, at 09:52 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Why would you have to lift the engine to replace the cooler line? Its only about a foot long between the front of the engine metal lines and the radiator. Or are you saying your metal lines are leaking? Even so, you shouldnt have to raise the engine any. Maybe they're thinking motor oil cooler lines? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
[MBZ] Fuel Leak Diesel 300SD 85
Fuel Leak hose diameter on leak off connection I am getting a fuel leak on 2 of the injectors. It appears to be that the cloth covered rubber? Fuel lines that go between the injectors (on the leak off connection) are in need of replacement.. What is the ID of this hose? There are multiple sources of EURO OEM type hose here in Dallas. George Larribeau Dallas From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 09 16:21:56 2006 Received: from bay101-dav9.bay101.hotmail.com ([64.4.56.81] helo=hotmail.com) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F7EYN-0004P2-PR for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 16:21:55 + Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 9 Feb 2006 08:21:51 -0800 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from 71.115.62.131 by BAY101-DAV9.phx.gbl with DAV; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 16:21:49 + X-Originating-IP: [71.115.62.131] X-Originating-Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 10:21:59 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Feb 2006 16:21:51.0889 (UTC) FILETIME=[EF3E6010:01C62D94] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: oil change humor - quite funny X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 16:21:57 - Here is the procedure for de-oiling and de-calcifying a OM617 cooling system. I used this method on my Toyota. I figured if it was good enough for the German cars, it would be good enough for Japanese as well. For the de-oiling part I used Prestone Flush, followed by water. Then I used the citric acid flush, followed by water. I bought the citric acid on eBay, Rusty stocks it and could have it to you in a day, two max. http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/Service/W123/w123CD2/Program/Engine/617/20-015.pdf Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT
[MBZ] Cheap '87 300d in TN.
http://nashville.craigslist.org/car/132357785.html No affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 09 17:02:25 2006 Received: from bay101-dav10.bay101.hotmail.com ([64.4.56.82] helo=hotmail.com) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F7FBZ-Cx-Ep for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 17:02:25 + Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 9 Feb 2006 09:02:23 -0800 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from 71.115.62.131 by BAY101-DAV10.phx.gbl with DAV; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 17:02:18 + X-Originating-IP: [71.115.62.131] X-Originating-Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 11:02:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Feb 2006 17:02:23.0075 (UTC) FILETIME=[9857EB30:01C62D9A] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap '87 300d in TN X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 17:02:25 - Never mind, it needs an engine.sorry Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 09 17:03:11 2006 Received: from [70.184.21.183] (helo=[192.168.1.101]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1F7FCJ-Hy-AQ for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 17:03:11 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:03:18 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap '87 300d in TN. X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 17:03:11 - nothing going to be cheap about that car Rick Knoble wrote: http://nashville.craigslist.org/car/132357785.html No affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 9th generation S-class...
I agree with the factory. I am not as familiar with the 187, but there were definitely S models with the same distinction then as now. S has had two concurrent meanings of years in reference to MB models. S as in Sport 300SL, 190SL, SLK 230, 170S S as in Super 220S, 220Sa, 220Sb, 300SE and so on forward. Then mid 60s 300SE is a beautiful car. IMHO, it is the only Mercedes Benz that rivals the appearance (profile) of the long 126 for beauty and style. Every time I see one, I drool, because they are so rare. Its engine borrows heavily from the 300SL technology. Actually, I could argue that the 51 to 53 models are the second generation S as in Super chassis Prewar, there was the Typ SS (Super Sport) (and yall thought chevy invented that name in 1965) and the typ SSK (Super Sport Kurz) At 12:05 PM 2/8/2006, you wrote: On 2/8/06 11:12 AM, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris, Try this link... It defines each generation.. http://www.mbusa.com/microsite/s-class/index.jsp Chuck Phoenix, AZ with one of the generations. a W116 Great site, Chuck. But if you don't have broadband or cannot utilize Macromedia Flash 8, as a public service here is a summary: 1st 1951 W187 2nd 1954 W180 (Ponton) 1st unibody car 3rd 1959 W111/112 (Finnie) 1st concept of passenger cell 4th 1965 W108 /109 (designed by a Frenchie) 5th 1978 W116 First to be called S Class; first car anywhere with ABS 6th 1981 W126 1st car with Driver's Air Bag and seat belt tensioners 7th 1992 W140 8th 1998 W220 9th 2007 W221 -- +-- GG 1997 SL500 (99k) http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm http://homepage.mac.com/deneals +-- ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Leak Diesel 300SD 85
Just call Rusty and order a meter of the hose.. That way you'll get the right stuff. Change them all at one time. Saves frustration later. At 09:42 AM 2/9/2006, you wrote: Fuel Leak hose diameter on leak off connection I am getting a fuel leak on 2 of the injectors. It appears to be that the cloth covered rubber? Fuel lines that go between the injectors (on the leak off connection) are in need of replacement.. What is the ID of this hose? There are multiple sources of EURO OEM type hose here in Dallas. George Larribeau Dallas ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Enduring Passion - book
Hmm, no responses. Well, I bought the book (not for $75 as advertised on mbusa.com)...I'll let y'all know if there are any interesting insights into our collective mentality that feeds the love that never dies (used in an MB ad once, quite recently actually). Chris Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is the review: http://www.mbusa.com/media/downloads/main/features/enduring_passions/Passions_Book_review.pdf Here it is mentioned on owners-online: http://www.mbusa.com/features/enduring-passion/index.do The book is written by a marketing man (same line of work as me) and investigates, specifically, the BRAND, the cult and attraction of the brand, what it means to people, etc. Sounds very interesting! Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 09 18:11:30 2006 Received: from web30003.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.200.66]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F7GGP-00084Y-Oj for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 18:11:30 + Received: (qmail 50799 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Feb 2006 18:11:25 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=YJ8cp1Rqgs9Y2TogwqrfbnlNhlpyVdXJ5mQvgBdUDGeL47OKADsx2I4LhXIJNtxsO0FLb6k6SgxeztfQi+ftOAc/UI1Qk4KDarz+4dHeTTTiZFLt206hYjyVqOCqrYVFmhPlqcn7L6qztcOYlqEL/+k0XOPIjHgCvaMBfC35pGM= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [66.140.70.226] by web30003.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 10:11:25 PST Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 10:11:25 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: [MBZ] high schoolers' diesel-electric hybrid - series or parallel hybrid? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 18:11:30 - Does anyone recall from the article - was it a parallel hybrid (like prius) or a series hybrid like a locomotive (SIMPLE!). I really hope their is a future for series hybrids because you can actually work on those yourself! A company in CA sells a series diesel hybrid city bus powered by a 1.6 liter TDI...yes, a city bus. Thanks Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 09 18:53:53 2006 Received: from mx14.marshallnet.com ([207.206.203.14] helo=MAIL.spam-virus-intercept.com) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F7GvR-0004ZF-7D for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 18:53:53 + Received: from [192.168.1.100]
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 61
Trampas wrote: You will usually be OK as long as trans did not start slipping real bad and you tried to keep driving. It did, and I did. At first I thought it was the ice I was driving on. It only slipped for about 3 blocks before I shut it down, but it slipped badly. Any advice? D -- Dan Weeks Freelance Writing and Photography 515/279-4825 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[MBZ] Oil filter leak
You will be able to tell this question comes from someone who hasn't put in many miles in their 240D yet: Regarding the oil filter: There is a remote, drop-in-element type filter, correct? I thought it was mounted on the firewall. Am I incorrect? Are there two oil filters - a remote one, and a traditional block-mounted, screw-on type? Reason asked: The mechanic says there's a leak at the fuel filter housing gasket. And he says it's mounted to the engine block. My mind is picturing that unit on the driver's side of the engine that (I thought) was mounted to the firewall. I'm trippin out. Maybe that is the fuel filter. Hardcore dieselers: try to disguise your disgust. I know, I should look at the manual on CD. I don't have it with me right now. By way of clarification, the car isn't near me either. I know the gasket will be inexpensive, but wonder if the dealer will take a few days to order it in. Won't be able to provide part no. (as in for Rusty) 'til I actually get my hands on the car. And by that time I won't have much time for it to be shipped to me. Brian 83 240D _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
[MBZ] Oil filter leak
Oop, that will be confusing. I meant to say the mechanic says there is a leak at the OIL filter housing gasket, not a fuel leak like I mistakenly wrote in my previous post. Brian _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] OT: oil change humor - quite funny
Ed Booher wrote: It's loaded with something :) It's a beautiful sea foam blue green color both inside and outside the radiator. Sounds almost like someone ran low on coolant and topped it up with washer fluid.
Re: [MBZ] Oil filter leak
Brian Chase wrote: Regarding the oil filter: There is a remote, drop-in-element type filter, correct? Not remote, though it is drop-in. I thought it was mounted on the firewall. Am I incorrect? Yes, it's mounted to the block. Are there two oil filters - a remote one, and a traditional block-mounted, screw-on type? No. Reason asked: The mechanic says there's a leak at the fuel filter housing gasket. And he says it's mounted to the engine block. My mind is picturing that unit on the driver's side of the engine that (I thought) was mounted to the firewall. I'm trippin out. Maybe that is the fuel filter. Hardcore dieselers: try to disguise your disgust. That is that unit. I know, I should look at the manual on CD. I don't have it with me right now. By way of clarification, the car isn't near me either. I know the gasket will be inexpensive, but wonder if the dealer will take a few days to order it in. Won't be able to provide part no. (as in for Rusty) 'til I actually get my hands on the car. And by that time I won't have much time for it to be shipped to me. 616 184 07 80 - GASKET - OIL FILTER TO CYLINDER CRANKCASE Our's used to leak. In fact, the 300SD leaks from that gasket, too. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 270+kmi 1980 300TD 175+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 81+kmi 1976 350SE 4-spd 163+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Leak Diesel 300SD 85
Loren Faeth wrote: Just call Rusty and order a meter of the hose.. That way you'll get the right stuff. Change them all at one time. Saves frustration later. Get the plug for the last injector, too. It likes to split when it gets old.
[MBZ] Driver door groans upon opening
On my '81 300TD, the driver door groans every time you open it. The groaning begins upon opening, continues for 45 degrees of arc, then quits. There is no play in the hinges according to the yank and heave test method. I have greased and re-greased the hinges over and over. I have soaked everything I can see with lots of Kroil Grease easily flows from the hinge parting lines. This is driving me nutz. Help! Marshall in Feenix
Re: [MBZ] high schoolers' diesel-electric hybrid - series or parallel hybrid?
Christopher McCann wrote: Does anyone recall from the article - was it a parallel hybrid (like prius) or a series hybrid like a locomotive (SIMPLE!). I'm curious, too. There *are* simple ways to create parallel hybrids -- for example, a road-coupled hybrid where you have the electric motor connected to one set of wheels and the gasoline engine connected to the other. The series hybrid is conceptually simpler but requires a seperate generator and a larger electric motor, so it drives up the cost and weight. In a parallel hybrid the same device can serve as both motor and generator.
Re: [MBZ] Oil filter leak
Oil filter housing gasket is a paper gasket. The oil filter assy is held on with 5 allen bolts. you will need a 6 mm allen wrench, and you get to it from underneath. if you use any RTV or other sealant, apply a very thin film only with your finger. It should look and feel like almost nothing. If you put on more, a glop can plug oil passages and ruin your new expensive engine. You should try tightening the bolts FIRST! At 01:28 PM 2/9/2006, you wrote: Oop, that will be confusing. I meant to say the mechanic says there is a leak at the OIL filter housing gasket, not a fuel leak like I mistakenly wrote in my previous post. Brian _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Driver door groans upon opening
It's psychosomatic(sp). I groan too when I unfold in the morning. Did you check the door check strap for binding and proper lubrication? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marshall Field Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 1:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Driver door groans upon opening On my '81 300TD, the driver door groans every time you open it. The groaning begins upon opening, continues for 45 degrees of arc, then quits. There is no play in the hinges according to the yank and heave test method. I have greased and re-greased the hinges over and over. I have soaked everything I can see with lots of Kroil Grease easily flows from the hinge parting lines. This is driving me nutz. Help! Marshall in Feenix ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] 300td heater climate control woes
Folks, I seem to have developed the dreaded heater/climate control problem. The german woman in the dash will almost NEVER let the heat come on .maybe once every hour or two at the most. I seem to remember that i need to remove the control and solder up a bunch of joints, correct? Can someone direct me to some of the webpages/archieves that cover the task? thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 09 20:06:57 2006 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.192.83]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F7I49-0006FF-PN for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 20:06:57 + Received: from ringbill.gull.us (gull.us[24.18.9.231]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id 20060209200654m1300rqjeue; Thu, 9 Feb 2006 20:06:54 + Received: from [69.88.113.178] (helo=[192.168.1.105]) by ringbill.gull.us with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.51 (FreeBSD)) id 1F7I44-0005xZ-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 12:06:53 -0800 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 12:09:41 -0800 From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050715) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.7 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system ringbill.gull.us, has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see [EMAIL PROTECTED] for details. Content preview: Rick Hawkins wrote: Folks, I seem to have developed the dreaded heater/climate control problem. The german woman in the dash will almost NEVER let the heat come on .maybe once every hour or two at the most. [...] Content analysis details: (-4.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description -- -- -3.3 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.] 1.2 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300td heater climate control woes X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 20:06:58 - Rick Hawkins wrote: Folks, I seem to have developed the dreaded heater/climate control problem. The german woman in the dash will almost NEVER let the heat come on .maybe once every hour or two at the most. If the problem is the system not switching on, try clicking to Defrost, then back to whatever mode you want to be in. This overrides the startup delay. My car sometimes needs this after warm starts. On cold starts the automatic delay functions properly.
Re: [MBZ] Oil filter leak
The screw on thing that you think is another oil filter is really your fuel filter Jeff Zedic Toronto
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Leak Diesel 300SD 85
Can you elaborate please? Randy B -Original Message- Get the plug for the last injector, too. It likes to split when it gets old.
[MBZ] New Lubro Moly product
I have found a new Lubro Moly product that actually works. It is called Motor Oil Saver. I tried it my car last week. I went to Florida and burned 4 quarts of oil going down, Burned less than 1 quart coming back. Same route same conditions. It cost $8.00 a can and 1 can does 5 quarts. __ Rusty Cullens http://BuyMBparts.com 1-800-741-5252
Re: [MBZ] 300td heater climate control woes
Rich, If switching on the Defrost mode as David suggests does not product heat from the defroster vents, then you probably need to replace the monovalve insert. $40-$50 from Rusty. Thanks, Bruce David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick Hawkins wrote: Folks, I seem to have developed the dreaded heater/climate control problem. The german woman in the dash will almost NEVER let the heat come on .maybe once every hour or two at the most. If the problem is the system not switching on, try clicking to Defrost, then back to whatever mode you want to be in. This overrides the startup delay. My car sometimes needs this after warm starts. On cold starts the automatic delay functions properly. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Bruce 82 300CD 334kmi 'His' 85 300CD 240kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 202kmi 'Donner' 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' 73 220D 'It' - Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 09 20:25:36 2006 Received: from covert.brown-ring.iadfw.net ([209.196.123.143]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F7IMC-K5-Kz for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 20:25:36 + Received: from [64.0.172.2] (helo=Verity0531) by covert.iadfw.net with smtp (Exim 4.24) id 1F7IQg-0005JZ-2w for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 14:30:14 -0600 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: George Larribeau [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mail List MBZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 14:25:35 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: [MBZ] 1985 300SD Odometer Repair X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 20:25:36 - My odometer has stopped in my 85 300SD. Yes the speedometer still works. = It happened after I reset the trip OD. Multiple trip OD resets have not = cleared it. I want to remove the spedo and have it repaired (there is a = local; shop that has worked on various MC spedo's for me that seems to = be competent. I have been reading the PDF (from the indiees) numbered = 54-250 R and R instrument cluster. Some of the instructions are a little = sparse, like steering wheel . remove, reinstall. And the use of = Extractor hook PN 126 589 03 33 00. Is an extractor hook something I can = make / improvise. Do I need to remove the steering wheel? If so what is = the best way to go about it. George Larribeau Dallas, TX From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 09 20:33:27 2006 Received: from web51811.mail.yahoo.com ([206.190.39.230]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F7ITn-0001JD-FG for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 20:33:27 + Received: (qmail 68741 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Feb 2006 20:33:24 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=EyuKAHVLVNzN2YG7uzxi8QCy1yGg0WaHHNgUKZRX8LqYWGdiplGIWq/sbZsGwIjCEl7n8oMhO0MrVXvquLsfviVTrvj3UoIfwx+i7WCaPgkq8ZeqVhKCCXJzANdWM9fII0JCTKmrb8SoSBOqCB2109QPdOuwN8ta828kSFCGBYI= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [130.76.32.144] by web51811.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 12:33:24 PST Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 12:33:24 -0800 (PST) From: B Dike [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil filter leak X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 61
On Thursday, February 9, 2006, at 02:00 PM, Dan Weeks wrote: You will usually be OK as long as trans did not start slipping real bad and you tried to keep driving. It did, and I did. At first I thought it was the ice I was driving on. It only slipped for about 3 blocks before I shut it down, but it slipped badly. Any advice? Fill it up and see if you killed it. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] $100 1974 240D too good to be true?
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 12:36:40PM -0800, kevin kraly wrote: I found a 1974 240D for $100 with a new battery. It supposedly needs some injector work, but maybe only a propper priming or injector line bleed or perhaps fresh diesel is all that's needed. I figure it's worth a try. If that's all it needs, it sounds reasonable. Injectors are fairly cheap. Be careful of why they think it needs injector work. Could be hard to start due to a dead slug or something. K
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Leak Diesel 300SD 85
Randy, Here's what it looks like on my 300SD.. Most rear injector.. A short piece of return hose with a metal plug inserted. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Plug.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 21539 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/20060209/ca13b1fe/Plug.jpg -- next part -- Hope this helps. Chuck Phoenix, AZ
[MBZ] Oil, oil, which oil!?
Hello Group, I just got back to Texas from Jacksonville, Florida after picking my newly acquired 6.5l Diesel Suburban. Talk about the noise level inside that cabin let alone outside it! I guess I got spoiled by the more refined MB ML 400CDI! In the Mercedes, one barely notices the noise, but I guess I'll have to get used to it, until I can bring the ML into the country, that is. Now for the reason I am posting, I am about to change the engine oil and was about to pick a few jugs of Mobil 1 when I remembered how some of us are looking hard for M1 10-50 or was it M1 15-50, why is that so, why is M1 xx-30 not wanted, is it unsuitable? And if it is unsuitable, why is it so? And what about AT fluid, do you think I should stick with Dexron or give the synthetic stuff a try!? Last, and Kaleb maybe the one who knows about this, truck I bought came with the tall 4.10 rear end and I am thinking of changing the rear end to the more economical 3.70. The only downside I am aware of as of now is that the towing capacity drops from 10,000 lbs. to 8,000 lbs. (or was it from 8,000 lbs to 6,000 lbs!?). Can anyone tell me in real life terms what would be a 10,000 , 8,000 and 6,000 lbs tow? I don't envision towing anything more than a UHAUL trailer every now and then and even more rare, an inoperable car on the back of a trailer. Any help will be greatly appreciated and thank you all, Omar.
Re: [MBZ] New Lubro Moly product
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 03:22:43PM -0500, Rusty Cullens wrote: I have found a new Lubro Moly product that actually works. It is called Motor Oil Saver. I tried it my car last week. I went to Florida and burned 4 quarts of oil going down, Burned less than 1 quart coming back. Same route same conditions. It cost $8.00 a can and 1 can does 5 quarts. how is this supposed to work? Seems like a better alternative than running valvoline straight 60w in the winter and kendall nitro 70 in the summer in the toyota pickup a friend has. Needless to say, the 5w30 he put in when he inherited the truck before realizing there was a problem just misted out the tailpipe and went a quart down in less than 20 miles (!). K
Re: [MBZ] Oil filter leak
On Thursday, February 9, 2006, at 02:22 PM, Brian Chase wrote: You will be able to tell this question comes from someone who hasn't put in many miles in their 240D yet: Regarding the oil filter: There is a remote, drop-in-element type filter, correct? I thought it was mounted on the firewall. Am I incorrect? Are there two oil filters - a remote one, and a traditional block-mounted, screw-on type? Reason asked: The mechanic says there's a leak at the fuel filter housing gasket. And he says it's mounted to the engine block. My mind is picturing that unit on the driver's side of the engine that (I thought) was mounted to the firewall. I'm trippin out. Maybe that is the fuel filter. Hardcore dieselers: try to disguise your disgust. I know, I should look at the manual on CD. I don't have it with me right now. By way of clarification, the car isn't near me either. I know the gasket will be inexpensive, but wonder if the dealer will take a few days to order it in. Won't be able to provide part no. (as in for Rusty) 'til I actually get my hands on the car. And by that time I won't have much time for it to be shipped to me. Brian Oil Filter is LR side of engine, fuel is at the LF. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD Odometer Repair
You need new gears which are easy to install yourself www.odometergears.com To remove instrument cluster: #1 get metal coat hanger #2 cut two straight pieces about 6 long #3 put a 90 degree bend in each about 1/4 inch up from one end making an L #4 put one L on left side of cluster one on right. Push the small part of L inbetween cluster and dash. Twist each one such L is pointing towards center of cluster. #5 Pull. Cluster comes out and you can disconnect stuff on back. Then side out from behind steering wheel. Not that I found that for all the cars I have played with you can just grab instrument cluster by hand, no metal hooks or L things, and just pull out. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Larribeau Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 3:26 PM To: Mail List MBZ Subject: [MBZ] 1985 300SD Odometer Repair My odometer has stopped in my 85 300SD. Yes the speedometer still works. It happened after I reset the trip OD. Multiple trip OD resets have not cleared it. I want to remove the spedo and have it repaired (there is a local; shop that has worked on various MC spedo's for me that seems to be competent. I have been reading the PDF (from the indiees) numbered 54-250 R and R instrument cluster. Some of the instructions are a little sparse, like steering wheel . remove, reinstall. And the use of Extractor hook PN 126 589 03 33 00. Is an extractor hook something I can make / improvise. Do I need to remove the steering wheel? If so what is the best way to go about it. George Larribeau Dallas, TX ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] $100 1974 240D too good to be true?
I don't think you can go wrong for 100 bucks.. Dave W - Original Message - From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] $100 1974 240D too good to be true? On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 12:36:40PM -0800, kevin kraly wrote: I found a 1974 240D for $100 with a new battery. It supposedly needs some injector work, but maybe only a propper priming or injector line bleed or perhaps fresh diesel is all that's needed. I figure it's worth a try. If that's all it needs, it sounds reasonable. Injectors are fairly cheap. Be careful of why they think it needs injector work. Could be hard to start due to a dead slug or something. K ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Driver door groans upon opening
You need new door checks call Rusty! Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marshall Field Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 2:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Driver door groans upon opening On my '81 300TD, the driver door groans every time you open it. The groaning begins upon opening, continues for 45 degrees of arc, then quits. There is no play in the hinges according to the yank and heave test method. I have greased and re-greased the hinges over and over. I have soaked everything I can see with lots of Kroil Grease easily flows from the hinge parting lines. This is driving me nutz. Help! Marshall in Feenix ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Leak Diesel 300SD 85
There are two types of plug for the last injector. One is a cap type that does not last long. THe other is a steel barbed plug that goes in a 1 piece of the return hose, then the hose slips on the injector barb. If you have the hose type, you don't need to buy anything. Just slit the old hose and pull out the plug and shove it into the new hose. If you have the cap style, buy a plug from Rusty along with the hose. (cheap) At 04:26 PM 2/9/2006, you wrote: Can you elaborate please? Randy B -Original Message- Get the plug for the last injector, too. It likes to split when it gets old. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] $100 1974 240D too good to be true?
Nothing more expensive than a cheap Mercedes! Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Wakin Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 3:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] $100 1974 240D too good to be true? I don't think you can go wrong for 100 bucks.. Dave W - Original Message - From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] $100 1974 240D too good to be true? On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 12:36:40PM -0800, kevin kraly wrote: I found a 1974 240D for $100 with a new battery. It supposedly needs some injector work, but maybe only a propper priming or injector line bleed or perhaps fresh diesel is all that's needed. I figure it's worth a try. If that's all it needs, it sounds reasonable. Injectors are fairly cheap. Be careful of why they think it needs injector work. Could be hard to start due to a dead slug or something. K ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Oil filter leak
On Thursday, February 9, 2006, at 02:37 PM, John Ervine wrote: 616 184 07 80 - GASKET - OIL FILTER TO CYLINDER CRANKCASE Our's used to leak. In fact, the 300SD leaks from that gasket, too. Its a real common leak and a pain to change. Wouldn't attempt with my sunday best on. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] high schoolers' diesel-electric hybrid - series or parallel hybrid?
ah. that's ingenious. But why in the road coupled version do you need an extra generator? You have one engine which powers, say the front wheels conventionally and it also turns a generator which powers an electric motor which drives the rear wheels at a certain point, the conventional disengages and you run electric...where does the second generator come in? Chris David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: Does anyone recall from the article - was it a parallel hybrid (like prius) or a series hybrid like a locomotive (SIMPLE!). I'm curious, too. There *are* simple ways to create parallel hybrids -- for example, a road-coupled hybrid where you have the electric motor connected to one set of wheels and the gasoline engine connected to the other. The series hybrid is conceptually simpler but requires a seperate generator and a larger electric motor, so it drives up the cost and weight. In a parallel hybrid the same device can serve as both motor and generator. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 09 20:56:41 2006 Received: from server344.com ([216.35.197.52]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.52) id 1F7IqH-0004n6-8C for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 20:56:41 + Received: (qmail 12457 invoked by uid 504); 9 Feb 2006 20:56:51 - Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.10?) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by ns1.server344.com with SMTP; 9 Feb 2006 20:56:51 - Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 15:57:52 -0500 From: John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil filter leak X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 20:56:41 - John Berryman wrote: Its a real common leak and a pain to change. Wouldn't attempt with my sunday best on. Yeah, it's a pain. It's a decision of Do I want to fool around with rring the steering box to gain better access, or do I want to spend twice as long with a very short allen? -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 270+kmi 1980 300TD 175+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 81+kmi 1976 350SE 4-spd 163+kmi
[MBZ] 4 QTS!? Was New Lubro Moly product
Rusty wrote: I have found a new Lubro Moly product that actually works. It is called Motor Oil Saver. I tried it my car last week. I went to Florida and burned 4 quarts of oil going down, Burned less than 1 quart coming back. Same route same conditions. It cost $8.00 a can and 1 can does 5 quarts. __ Rusty Cullens http://BuyMBparts.com http://buymbparts.com/ 1-800-741-5252 What kind of car are you driving that burns 4 qts of oil on one trip? Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL
Re: [MBZ] Driver door groans upon opening
On Thursday, February 9, 2006, at 02:44 PM, Marshall Field wrote: On my '81 300TD, the driver door groans every time you open it. The groaning begins upon opening, continues for 45 degrees of arc, then quits. There is no play in the hinges according to the yank and heave test method. I have greased and re-greased the hinges over and over. I have soaked everything I can see with lots of Kroil Grease easily flows from the hinge parting lines. This is driving me nutz. Help! Marshall in Feenix Its the limiting strap, it also gives you the two positions plus some friction to keep you from tossing it open to fast. I use spray white lithium grease. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
