Re: [MBZ] Reflections on A Service
To the best of my knowledge, failed oiler tubes won’t cause oil pressure to drop in the main gallery, just at the heads and lifters. The typical symptom is lifter noise, as the failure of a tube or two causes oil pressure to drop in the oil gallery feeding the lifters. More likely to be a bad oil pressure sender, which is not uncommon in the W140 chassis. In fact, I had to change the one on my S420, but more because it was leaking. The gauge was still working properly. Easy job, takes all of about 10 minutes if that. I can find you a set of aluminum oilers if you want, ultrasonically cleaned and with new “O” rings. $200 is the going price these days. I happen to have a set sitting in the parts drawer in the garage. I did them on the SL500, which had a couple of bad tubes, and when another set came up for sale I grabbed them thinking I might need a set for the S500 or the S420. So far, neither has had the problem. For what it’s worth, this is a good job to do, especially on higher mileage cars, as you can also change out the top chain guides while you’re in there. Parts costs besides the oiler tubes is about $150, if that. Dan On Jun 8, 2015, at 10:04 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Yeah, what little I found around the inter web suggests that the pleated paper filters aren't up for the change intervals and as a result the media breaks down and fails. Also saw some comments about the fleece, particulate size, and compatibility with synthetic oils. Interesting. My S420 is having bouncing oil pressure gauge issues. I hope it's just the sending unit. I changed the oil this weekend, and the NAPA filter I took out was no longer round. Not busted, just collapsed a bit. IIRC, it had about 3k mi on i. I suppose it's time to take the valve covers off and see if any valve oilers have lost their end caps. (Or is that only the aluminum ones? Mine are plastic) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Reflections on A Service
Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: More likely to be a bad oil pressure sender, which is not uncommon in the W140 chassis. In fact, I had to change the one on my S420, but more because it was leaking. The gauge was still working properly. Easy job, takes all of about 10 minutes if that. I found this, but couldn't quite make out where exactly the sensor is. I thought it was on the bottom of the filter housing, but I got the idea he was farther back than that. http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w140-s-class/1903745-photo-diy-oil-pressure-system-testing.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change?
Mont. farmers release reports, plan 'frank discussions' about warming's impactsPublished: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 The Montana Farmers Union began releasing reports this week that highlight how climate change is affecting agriculture in Big Sky country. We're just trying to educate people that it is here, and maybe if there is something we can do about it, as people living on farms or people living in cities, we should take a look at it, said Alan Merrill, president of the union. For years, farming organizations have shied away from connecting increasing bouts of extreme weather and drought to climate change, but Merrill said in Montana the time has come to have some frank discussions. According to U.S. EPA data, since 1900, the average temperature in Montana has increased 2.4 degrees Fahrenheit. Instead of touching on the political debate behind climate change, Merrill said, he hopes to focus more locally on the ways climate change has affected the individual farmer, many of whom keep daily records. For example, he said in central Montana's grain belt, seeds are being sown weeks earlier than they once were and the harvest is coming sooner for crops like winter wheat. The reports are based on research by Montana State University, and community meetings are scheduled over the next few months to open up a dialogue (Tom Lutey, *Billings Gazette* http://billingsgazette.com/news/farmers-union-publishes-reports-on-climate-change-effects-on-agriculture/article_25574d74-74c9-54ff-a8e4-fa2c564ff097.html, June 7). *-- BP* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change?
Or farmers to tell us the painful truth. They must all be government agents! On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Nothing new here, the earth's climate has always been changing. Andrew - you should know that. Even I took rocks for jocks in college... Humans excel at adjusting to a changing world. We don't need increased government or higher taxes or energy costs to do that... - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change?
Clearly the answer is to raise taxes and send the money to turd-world kleptocrats, or the UN (I repeat myself)! --R On 6/9/15 10:57 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Or farmers to tell us the painful truth. They must all be government agents! On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Nothing new here, the earth's climate has always been changing. Andrew - you should know that. Even I took rocks for jocks in college... Humans excel at adjusting to a changing world. We don't need increased government or higher taxes or energy costs to do that... - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change?
Nothing new here, the earth's climate has always been changing. Andrew - you should know that. Even I took rocks for jocks in college... Humans excel at adjusting to a changing world. We don't need increased government or higher taxes or energy costs to do that... - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change?
Do like in Liberia and give the land to oppressed black folks. That worked so well... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change? How about throwing the Montana farmers off their land? They are clearly commies in the hire of third world kleptos. On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Clearly the answer is to raise taxes and send the money to turd-world kleptocrats, or the UN (I repeat myself)! --R On 6/9/15 10:57 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Or farmers to tell us the painful truth. They must all be government agents! On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Nothing new here, the earth's climate has always been changing. Andrew - you should know that. Even I took rocks for jocks in college... Humans excel at adjusting to a changing world. We don't need increased government or higher taxes or energy costs to do that... - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change?
How about throwing the Montana farmers off their land? They are clearly commies in the hire of third world kleptos. On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Clearly the answer is to raise taxes and send the money to turd-world kleptocrats, or the UN (I repeat myself)! --R On 6/9/15 10:57 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Or farmers to tell us the painful truth. They must all be government agents! On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Nothing new here, the earth's climate has always been changing. Andrew - you should know that. Even I took rocks for jocks in college... Humans excel at adjusting to a changing world. We don't need increased government or higher taxes or energy costs to do that... - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Reflections on A Service
Directly behind the alternator towards the middle of the car. It comes off the bottom of the oil filter housing where it meets the engine. If you get under the car, just find the alternator and follow the harness back towards the firewall. It's right there. That guy in the W140 forum is disgusting. grin He must have more money than he knows what to do with, as everything he does is with the factory tools or Hazet stuff. Must be nice He does do some nice write ups, however. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 9, 2015, at 11:24 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: More likely to be a bad oil pressure sender, which is not uncommon in the W140 chassis. In fact, I had to change the one on my S420, but more because it was leaking. The gauge was still working properly. Easy job, takes all of about 10 minutes if that. I found this, but couldn't quite make out where exactly the sensor is. I thought it was on the bottom of the filter housing, but I got the idea he was farther back than that. http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w140-s-class/1903745-photo-diy-oil-pressure-system-testing.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change?
I'm sure the DoI and BuRec are working on it as we speak. It's for the children starving in Africa! --R On 6/9/15 12:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: How about throwing the Montana farmers off their land? They are clearly commies in the hire of third world kleptos. On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Clearly the answer is to raise taxes and send the money to turd-world kleptocrats, or the UN (I repeat myself)! --R On 6/9/15 10:57 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Or farmers to tell us the painful truth. They must all be government agents! On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Nothing new here, the earth's climate has always been changing. Andrew - you should know that. Even I took rocks for jocks in college... Humans excel at adjusting to a changing world. We don't need increased government or higher taxes or energy costs to do that... - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Reflections on A Service
On June 9, 2015 at 12:59 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That guy in the W140 forum is disgusting. grin He must have more money than he knows what to do with, as everything he does is with the factory tools or Hazet stuff. Must be nice He does do some nice write ups, however. Yeah, if his high end tool collection is as complete as it seems to be, it must have cost about 2x as much as a dealership mechanic spends in the first 20 years of his career. I've seen various homemade resistor arrays set up so that by configuring a few jumpers you can make just about any resistance you want, but get a load of his decade box. Never saw somebody work on a car with one of those before. here, I dial up 40 Ohms on my decade box, plug it in to the oil pressure circuit, and voila, the gauge reads 1 bar Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change?
Dang, Right continent anyway. -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change? I think you're thinking of Zimbabwe (Rhodesia). Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 9, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Do like in Liberia and give the land to oppressed black folks. That worked so well... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change? How about throwing the Montana farmers off their land? They are clearly commies in the hire of third world kleptos. On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Clearly the answer is to raise taxes and send the money to turd-world kleptocrats, or the UN (I repeat myself)! --R On 6/9/15 10:57 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Or farmers to tell us the painful truth. They must all be government agents! On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Nothing new here, the earth's climate has always been changing. Andrew - you should know that. Even I took rocks for jocks in college... Humans excel at adjusting to a changing world. We don't need increased government or higher taxes or energy costs to do that... - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change?
Saying the Montana Farmers Union supports MMGW is like saying Change.org supports MMGW. There's a reason why the first thing you see upon visiting MFU's web site is Global Climate Change. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change?
I think you're thinking of Zimbabwe (Rhodesia). Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 9, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Do like in Liberia and give the land to oppressed black folks. That worked so well... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change? How about throwing the Montana farmers off their land? They are clearly commies in the hire of third world kleptos. On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Clearly the answer is to raise taxes and send the money to turd-world kleptocrats, or the UN (I repeat myself)! --R On 6/9/15 10:57 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Or farmers to tell us the painful truth. They must all be government agents! On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Nothing new here, the earth's climate has always been changing. Andrew - you should know that. Even I took rocks for jocks in college... Humans excel at adjusting to a changing world. We don't need increased government or higher taxes or energy costs to do that... - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change?
You could be right. I don't know much about Liberia, so it's very possible they did something along those lines. I was thinking that Liberia was where Henry Ford had the big rubber plantations. In Zimbabwe the colonialist (British) owned and pretty much ran the country for several hundred years, I believe. The locals were subjugated and used as cheap labor, as that was what the British were really good at doing. Agriculture was the big thing there, and the colonialists had these massive, sprawling farms all over the place. We had a bunch of customers there who grew tobacco in quantities that were simply staggering. Sometime in the last 15-20 years, I believe, the locals had had enough, and pretty much went medieval on the Brits, killing, raping, pillaging, etc., and returning their rightful lands back to themselves. Of course, now that they've destroyed all the infrastructure and dismantled the economic engines of the country, the place pretty well went into the toilet. This is the African country you've read about where inflation is so bad that pocket change is a million dollar bill in the local currency. Victoria Falls is nice, however. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 9, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dang, Right continent anyway. -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change? I think you're thinking of Zimbabwe (Rhodesia). Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 9, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Do like in Liberia and give the land to oppressed black folks. That worked so well... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change?
I was merely pointing out how effective government is at dealing with farmers... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change? Hey, I don't have to defend everythjing that ever happened in Africa. if you want to change the topic change the subject line. Sheesh On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Took some reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_ZimbabweTurns out they got independence in 1980 and like so many ex-empire states promptly squandered it. In the '90s they let the black minority overrun the farms owned by white farmers. The untrained black farmers then took the breadbasket of Africa and ruined it... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change? You could be right. I don't know much about Liberia, so it's very possible they did something along those lines. I was thinking that Liberia was where Henry Ford had the big rubber plantations. In Zimbabwe the colonialist (British) owned and pretty much ran the country for several hundred years, I believe. The locals were subjugated and used as cheap labor, as that was what the British were really good at doing. Agriculture was the big thing there, and the colonialists had these massive, sprawling farms all over the place. We had a bunch of customers there who grew tobacco in quantities that were simply staggering. Sometime in the last 15-20 years, I believe, the locals had had enough, and pretty much went medieval on the Brits, killing, raping, pillaging, etc., and returning their rightful lands back to themselves. Of course, now that they've destroyed all the infrastructure and dismantled the economic engines of the country, the place pretty well went into the toilet. This is the African country you've read about where inflation is so bad that pocket change is a million dollar bill in the local currency. Victoria Falls is nice, however. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 9, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dang, Right continent anyway. -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change? I think you're thinking of Zimbabwe (Rhodesia). Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 9, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Do like in Liberia and give the land to oppressed black folks. That worked so well... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - bees
I love that story and would dearly like to believe it but wonder if it is a rural myth, aka urban myth... On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 11:41 PM, Gerry Archer via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Mountain Man wrote: My neighbor mentioned a documentary about bees recently. I ride my bike 2.5 miles to his house to purchase eggs. As I walked out the door, he stopped and wrote the name for me. He said he always forgets, and I had already forgotten the name of the documentary. Thedocumentary is about bees leaving hives - Vanishing of the Bees: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQwesnNVyn8 It was interesting to hear commentary about society in bees - we might learn something from them if we could spend some time thinking in introspection. I liked some of what the guy at Spikenard Farm Honeybee Sanctuary said. Trucking bees makes about 70% of their annual income as they market their pollination services to our monoculture industrial farming. Monoculture farming seems to be a bad industrial farming fundamental. Diversity seems to be sustainable in all ways. Enjoy. mao Bees are interesting critters. A man from a small town who had contracted leukemia was sent home to die after all treatments failed at the Med School Hospital. He had a few hives, accidentally knocked one over, and was taken back to the Med School Hospital with multiple life threatening bites. He survived, and to the doctors amazement, all signs of the leukemia were gone. He was sent home in total remission and resumed his normal life. I've often wondered if the leukemia ever returned, but as far as I know he was never again admitted to the hospital. Gerry --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change?
Took some reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_ZimbabweTurns out they got independence in 1980 and like so many ex-empire states promptly squandered it. In the '90s they let the black minority overrun the farms owned by white farmers. The untrained black farmers then took the breadbasket of Africa and ruined it... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change? You could be right. I don't know much about Liberia, so it's very possible they did something along those lines. I was thinking that Liberia was where Henry Ford had the big rubber plantations. In Zimbabwe the colonialist (British) owned and pretty much ran the country for several hundred years, I believe. The locals were subjugated and used as cheap labor, as that was what the British were really good at doing. Agriculture was the big thing there, and the colonialists had these massive, sprawling farms all over the place. We had a bunch of customers there who grew tobacco in quantities that were simply staggering. Sometime in the last 15-20 years, I believe, the locals had had enough, and pretty much went medieval on the Brits, killing, raping, pillaging, etc., and returning their rightful lands back to themselves. Of course, now that they've destroyed all the infrastructure and dismantled the economic engines of the country, the place pretty well went into the toilet. This is the African country you've read about where inflation is so bad that pocket change is a million dollar bill in the local currency. Victoria Falls is nice, however. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 9, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dang, Right continent anyway. -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change? I think you're thinking of Zimbabwe (Rhodesia). Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 9, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Do like in Liberia and give the land to oppressed black folks. That worked so well... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] And now for something completely different (not OT) - R/R W123 coolant hose
Careful too because some of the MB hoses are not the same diameter at both ends. Dimitri's '78 240D has a heater hose that I spent an hour carefully stretching into place because to get the small end right meant the big end was too small. This was back when Trent either sent me the wrong thing or nothing at all. -Curt From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] And now for something completely different (not OT) - R/R W123 coolant hose How do I get a part number for it? Or do I simply order generic (approx. 1 dia.) coolant hose and cut it to match? If it doesn't have any molded bends in it and Goodyear or Gates quality is good enough for you (5-10 year life vs maybe 10-20 for factory) you can just take it off, and have the guys at FLAPS cut an appropriate piece off a roll of bulk hose to match it. Hopefully if it isn't close enough to a common inch denominated side to do that, they'll tell you instead of selling you a too-large hose. If you want it RIGHT, go here and look it up. You have to give them a credit card to activate a free one year subscription, IIRC. http://epc.startekinfo.com/epc/login.jsp ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change?
Andrew, oh my, you must help them, HELP THEM!!! Quick, get a bill in front of Congress to start a new program to HELP THEM!!! Wait, they are humans, very adaptable and hard working humans at that, and they've already solved the issue at their level... All they needed was to be left alone and allowed to use their minds and their resources. Imagine that! Move along folks, nothing to see here, move along... - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Which was clearly off point. The point is that farmers whose LIVELIHOOD depends on climate norms have had to adjust their planting schedules due to a major shift in climate trends - a large increase in temperatures. These aren't liberals or tree huggers, nor do most of them vote Democratic I would surmise. They have credibility in reporting on what is happening to the climate because it affects their income. If you fail to see this then you are like the figurative man pretending to be asleep. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] And now for something completely different (not OT) - R/R W123 coolant hose
The funny thing is, I discovered the leak b/c the car was over heating (usually it runs cool). I popped the hood and saw the short hose was oozing coolant, so I topped it up - took nearly a gallon of H2O through the filler tank. Now that the radiator coolant level is back to normal, the hose no longer drips. WTF??? On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Careful too because some of the MB hoses are not the same diameter at both ends. Dimitri's '78 240D has a heater hose that I spent an hour carefully stretching into place because to get the small end right meant the big end was too small. This was back when Trent either sent me the wrong thing or nothing at all. -Curt From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] And now for something completely different (not OT) - R/R W123 coolant hose How do I get a part number for it? Or do I simply order generic (approx. 1 dia.) coolant hose and cut it to match? If it doesn't have any molded bends in it and Goodyear or Gates quality is good enough for you (5-10 year life vs maybe 10-20 for factory) you can just take it off, and have the guys at FLAPS cut an appropriate piece off a roll of bulk hose to match it. Hopefully if it isn't close enough to a common inch denominated side to do that, they'll tell you instead of selling you a too-large hose. If you want it RIGHT, go here and look it up. You have to give them a credit card to activate a free one year subscription, IIRC. http://epc.startekinfo.com/epc/login.jsp ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change?
Not to worry: May was wettest month in U.S. historyPublished: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 Last month was the wettest month on record in the contiguous United States, according to National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration meteorologists. Nearly 200 trillion gallons of rain and snow fell over the Lower 48 states in May, according to climate scientist Jake Crouch, with an average of 4.36 inches of total precipitation falling on the Lower 48. A stalled pattern of storms dumped water on the central United States, especially Texas and Oklahoma, to drive up the numbers. Those states had been in five-year droughts that ended in just a month. It's like one disaster ending a catastrophe, Crouch said. Fourteen states had one of their 10 wettest Mays ever; all of them were located west of the Mississippi River and east of California. This May was one of only seven Mays on record in the United States to average more than 4 inches of total precipitation. But it's hard to make any connections from a single month to climate change, Crouch said (AP/*New York Times* http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/06/08/science/ap-us-sci-wettest-may.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fscience_r=0, June 8). *-- BTP* On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: This Congress??? You must be joking. On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew, oh my, you must help them, HELP THEM!!! Quick, get a bill in front of Congress to start a new program to HELP THEM!!! Wait, they are humans, very adaptable and hard working humans at that, and they've already solved the issue at their level... All they needed was to be left alone and allowed to use their minds and their resources. Imagine that! Move along folks, nothing to see here, move along... - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Which was clearly off point. The point is that farmers whose LIVELIHOOD depends on climate norms have had to adjust their planting schedules due to a major shift in climate trends - a large increase in temperatures. These aren't liberals or tree huggers, nor do most of them vote Democratic I would surmise. They have credibility in reporting on what is happening to the climate because it affects their income. If you fail to see this then you are like the figurative man pretending to be asleep. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I'm having an urge
for one of these, diesel 4x4 pleez! http://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/why-the-2016-mercedes-metris-laughs-at-your-luxury-truc-1709898144 Then pimp it into an RV like some of those linked at the bottom of the comments. Tow a trailer with toys, yer good ta go... --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change?
Which was clearly off point. The point is that farmers whose LIVELIHOOD depends on climate norms have had to adjust their planting schedules due to a major shift in climate trends - a large increase in temperatures. These aren't liberals or tree huggers, nor do most of them vote Democratic I would surmise. They have credibility in reporting on what is happening to the climate because it affects their income. If you fail to see this then you are like the figurative man pretending to be asleep. On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I was merely pointing out how effective government is at dealing with farmers... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change? Hey, I don't have to defend everythjing that ever happened in Africa. if you want to change the topic change the subject line. Sheesh On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Took some reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_ZimbabweTurns out they got independence in 1980 and like so many ex-empire states promptly squandered it. In the '90s they let the black minority overrun the farms owned by white farmers. The untrained black farmers then took the breadbasket of Africa and ruined it... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change? You could be right. I don't know much about Liberia, so it's very possible they did something along those lines. I was thinking that Liberia was where Henry Ford had the big rubber plantations. In Zimbabwe the colonialist (British) owned and pretty much ran the country for several hundred years, I believe. The locals were subjugated and used as cheap labor, as that was what the British were really good at doing. Agriculture was the big thing there, and the colonialists had these massive, sprawling farms all over the place. We had a bunch of customers there who grew tobacco in quantities that were simply staggering. Sometime in the last 15-20 years, I believe, the locals had had enough, and pretty much went medieval on the Brits, killing, raping, pillaging, etc., and returning their rightful lands back to themselves. Of course, now that they've destroyed all the infrastructure and dismantled the economic engines of the country, the place pretty well went into the toilet. This is the African country you've read about where inflation is so bad that pocket change is a million dollar bill in the local currency. Victoria Falls is nice, however. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 9, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dang, Right continent anyway. -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change? I think you're thinking of Zimbabwe (Rhodesia). Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 9, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Do like in Liberia and give the land to oppressed black folks. That worked so well... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change?
Yeah, so what?Sure maybe the climate is warming, but we've been coming out of an ice age for a couple thousand years right? Isn't global warming actually NORMAL in the age of human experience? The temperature record goes back to the late 1800s but the last ice age ended around 11,000 years ago. Haven't we been steadily warming since then? Seems like its a big ask to prove that humans are making the planet warm up when it was doing it anyway. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change? Which was clearly off point.The point is that farmers whose LIVELIHOOD depends on climate norms have had to adjust their planting schedules due to a major shift in climate trends - a large increase in temperatures. These aren't liberals or tree huggers, nor do most of them vote Democratic I would surmise. They have credibility in reporting on what is happening to the climate because it affects their income. If you fail to see this then you are like the figurative man pretending to be asleep. On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I was merely pointing out how effective government is at dealing with farmers... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change? Hey, I don't have to defend everythjing that ever happened in Africa. if you want to change the topic change the subject line. Sheesh On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Took some reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_ZimbabweTurns out they got independence in 1980 and like so many ex-empire states promptly squandered it. In the '90s they let the black minority overrun the farms owned by white farmers. The untrained black farmers then took the breadbasket of Africa and ruined it... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change? You could be right. I don't know much about Liberia, so it's very possible they did something along those lines. I was thinking that Liberia was where Henry Ford had the big rubber plantations. In Zimbabwe the colonialist (British) owned and pretty much ran the country for several hundred years, I believe. The locals were subjugated and used as cheap labor, as that was what the British were really good at doing. Agriculture was the big thing there, and the colonialists had these massive, sprawling farms all over the place. We had a bunch of customers there who grew tobacco in quantities that were simply staggering. Sometime in the last 15-20 years, I believe, the locals had had enough, and pretty much went medieval on the Brits, killing, raping, pillaging, etc., and returning their rightful lands back to themselves. Of course, now that they've destroyed all the infrastructure and dismantled the economic engines of the country, the place pretty well went into the toilet. This is the African country you've read about where inflation is so bad that pocket change is a million dollar bill in the local currency. Victoria Falls is nice, however. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 9, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dang, Right continent anyway. -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change? I think you're thinking of Zimbabwe (Rhodesia). Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 9, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Do like in Liberia and give the land to oppressed black folks. That worked so well... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
[MBZ] And now for something completely different (not OT) - R/R W123 coolant hose
My daily driver 1983 300TD has developed a leaky coolant hose. It's a straight 8 long hose, located maybe 10 down from the top of the engine and roughly parallel to the front of the car. The hose clamps are thoughtfully oriented to enable easy access crom the top to remove them with a phillips head screwdriver. :) How do I get a part number for it? Or do I simply order generic (approx. 1 dia.) coolant hose and cut it to match? Tia, Andrew 1983 300TD, weeps coolant 1985 300TD, spotty oil leaks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - GLOSSARY
When a woman of the '30s, '40s, '50s said she had fallen off the roof it meant that she was having her period. I looked it up and couldn't find its origin. I wonder if it has something to do with rusty tin roof, tin roof, rusted, etc.? Gerry WILTON wrote: 'Never heard anything 'bouta rusty tin roof for anything related to pregnancy. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - GLOSSARY Did anybody ever actually hear anybody say tin roof, rusted for pregnancy? I've heard it used in music (most famously by the B52s) but never actually heard anybody say it. -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - GLOSSARY You forgot, I'll swann which I think meant I'll swear but Baptists never swore so swan it was. And Lawslaws or Lawsamercy which also substituted for lawdlawd etc. And Rectum -- that boy drove them tars off the road and rectum. Had ta git a coupla recaps ta fixem. --R On 6/8/15 3:19 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: More GLOSSARY By Wilton Strickland I lost my homework. -- I did not do my homework. I'll be dog, I'll be doggone -- I'm amazed In a bind, in a scrape/squeeze, in a tight -- in trouble, need money to pay bills In a family way -- pregnant In high cotton -- got it made; doing very well In hog heaven -- also doing very well - very comfortable In the foot of the truck or car -- on the floor In the short rows -- almost finished I'm done. -- I've finished. I'm fixin' da -- I'm getting ready to; I'm about to; I'm going to In the heat o' d'day -- during the hottest part of the day, usually, early to mid-afternoon I put it right where I'd know where it is. -- I've lost it. Irregardless -- regardless I snibbed it -- I just brushed the side of it; almost missed I stole it -- I paid hardly anything for it. I swanny -- substitute for I swear Itching like a man on a fuzzy tree -- itching really bad It floored me. -- It astonished, surprised or baffled me. It really got away with me -- It embarrassed me. I yea'bout died or I near 'bout died -- I was so shocked, I almost died. Jawl-P? -- Did you go to the bathroom? Jeet yet -- Have you eaten yet? Jes' like a sharecropper in a drought -- not doing very well Johnny on the spot -- always on time Jump from the fryin' pan into the fire -- get in even worse trouble Just a hair -- a very small unit of measure; a hair's width Kick the traces -- out of line; breach restraints Knock on wood -- to prevent bad luck Landlord -- landowner 'Lasses -- molasses Layin' down -- lying down Layin' by d'backa, hillin' d'backa -- final plowing of the tobacco crop for the season Leastwise -- at least 'Lectwisty -- electricity Less is more. -- Don't over do it. Keep it simple. Lick -- a brush with the tongue, a blow with a hand Lick of work -- a token stroke of work Lickity-split -- quickly Light the fahr -- start the fire Like something on a stick -- something special, such as a candy apple or a lollipop Loopin' d'backa, stringin' d'backa -- attaching the tobacco leaves to sticks with cotton string (d'backa twine) to facilitate hanging it in the curing or drying barn. Mad as a wet settin' hen -- really upset, angry Mad as fire -- very angry, violent temper Mad as Hell -- even more angry Makin' hay -- making good progress Malarkey -- mess, foolishness, worthless stuff Mash -- squeeze tightly, push a button or pedal; often done to potatoes to cream them 'Matahs, 'maters, 'matussusses -- tomatoes Mendin' up, puttin' on a little -- gaining weight Mess of peas, beans, corn, turnip salad (salit), etc. -- enough to cook for a meal Messed up -- made a mistake; out of order Might -- may Might can -- may be able to Might would -- may decide to Mighty -- southern for very Mitzibushy Zero -- Mitsubishi Zero, WW II Japanese fighter plane Mommic or mommic up -- break or render inoperative, mess up Monks, i. e., in 6 monks -- months - in 6 months Moppin' cotton -- mopping arsenic-laced molasses onto cotton plants using a mop of rags on the end of a short stick Mud hole -- puddle of water My ears are burning. -- Somebody is talking about me. My left palm is itching. -- I'm getting some money. My nose is itching. -- Somebody is coming. My right palm is itching. -- I'm going to shake a stranger's hand. My stomach hurts. -- I don't want to go to school this morning. I don't want to drop soda. I don't want to sucker tobacco today. Etc. Nab -- catch - The police will nab the
Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change?
There's a saying that you can't wake a man who pretends to be sleeping... On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dang, Right continent anyway. -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change? I think you're thinking of Zimbabwe (Rhodesia). Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 9, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Do like in Liberia and give the land to oppressed black folks. That worked so well... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change? How about throwing the Montana farmers off their land? They are clearly commies in the hire of third world kleptos. On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Clearly the answer is to raise taxes and send the money to turd-world kleptocrats, or the UN (I repeat myself)! --R On 6/9/15 10:57 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Or farmers to tell us the painful truth. They must all be government agents! On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Nothing new here, the earth's climate has always been changing. Andrew - you should know that. Even I took rocks for jocks in college... Humans excel at adjusting to a changing world. We don't need increased government or higher taxes or energy costs to do that... - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change?
Hey, I don't have to defend everythjing that ever happened in Africa. if you want to change the topic change the subject line. Sheesh On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Took some reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_ZimbabweTurns out they got independence in 1980 and like so many ex-empire states promptly squandered it. In the '90s they let the black minority overrun the farms owned by white farmers. The untrained black farmers then took the breadbasket of Africa and ruined it... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change? You could be right. I don't know much about Liberia, so it's very possible they did something along those lines. I was thinking that Liberia was where Henry Ford had the big rubber plantations. In Zimbabwe the colonialist (British) owned and pretty much ran the country for several hundred years, I believe. The locals were subjugated and used as cheap labor, as that was what the British were really good at doing. Agriculture was the big thing there, and the colonialists had these massive, sprawling farms all over the place. We had a bunch of customers there who grew tobacco in quantities that were simply staggering. Sometime in the last 15-20 years, I believe, the locals had had enough, and pretty much went medieval on the Brits, killing, raping, pillaging, etc., and returning their rightful lands back to themselves. Of course, now that they've destroyed all the infrastructure and dismantled the economic engines of the country, the place pretty well went into the toilet. This is the African country you've read about where inflation is so bad that pocket change is a million dollar bill in the local currency. Victoria Falls is nice, however. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 9, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dang, Right continent anyway. -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change? I think you're thinking of Zimbabwe (Rhodesia). Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 9, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Do like in Liberia and give the land to oppressed black folks. That worked so well... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] And now for something completely different (not OT) - R/R W123 coolant hose
How do I get a part number for it? Or do I simply order generic (approx. 1 dia.) coolant hose and cut it to match? If it doesn't have any molded bends in it and Goodyear or Gates quality is good enough for you (5-10 year life vs maybe 10-20 for factory) you can just take it off, and have the guys at FLAPS cut an appropriate piece off a roll of bulk hose to match it. Hopefully if it isn't close enough to a common inch denominated side to do that, they'll tell you instead of selling you a too-large hose. If you want it RIGHT, go here and look it up. You have to give them a credit card to activate a free one year subscription, IIRC. http://epc.startekinfo.com/epc/login.jsp ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change?
This Congress??? You must be joking. On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew, oh my, you must help them, HELP THEM!!! Quick, get a bill in front of Congress to start a new program to HELP THEM!!! Wait, they are humans, very adaptable and hard working humans at that, and they've already solved the issue at their level... All they needed was to be left alone and allowed to use their minds and their resources. Imagine that! Move along folks, nothing to see here, move along... - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Which was clearly off point. The point is that farmers whose LIVELIHOOD depends on climate norms have had to adjust their planting schedules due to a major shift in climate trends - a large increase in temperatures. These aren't liberals or tree huggers, nor do most of them vote Democratic I would surmise. They have credibility in reporting on what is happening to the climate because it affects their income. If you fail to see this then you are like the figurative man pretending to be asleep. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm having an urge
On 09/06/2015 1:24 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: for one of these, diesel 4x4 pleez! http://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/why-the-2016-mercedes-metris-laughs-at-your-luxury-truc-1709898144 Then pimp it into an RV like some of those linked at the bottom of the comments. Tow a trailer with toys, yer good ta go... --R ___ It's a friggin mini-van for goodness sake. Having a star on the grill does not make it more desirable than a Toyota mini-van. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Power steering
On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 09:55:29 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On 01/06/2015 6:44 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: The point has been made that power steering doesn't do much at speed. I say take the pump out of the belt circuit, as an Experiment, and see how it drives. I suspect that once you get over 15 mph, you'll never know it is missing. The NASCAR cars all have power steering. RB Heh! Heh! If his steering is like the steering on my '83 300D, he better go down to the gym and build up some big arm muscles before he takes the power steering belt off. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm having an urge
I like! Craig was asking about full size vans a bit ago, I'll bet one of these would fit the bill. Too bad they aren't offering a diesel version yet, but perhaps due to the intended consumer (businesses) that will come later. A diesel version would make an excellent replacement for my '87 wagon. More room all around, higher towing capacity, higher cargo weight capacity. - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: for one of these, diesel 4x4 pleez! http://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/why-the-2016-mercedes-metris-laughs-at-your-luxury-truc-1709898144 Then pimp it into an RV like some of those linked at the bottom of the comments. Tow a trailer with toys, yer good ta go... --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - GLOSSARY
More GLOSSARY By Wilton Strickland Settin' hen -- a chicken hen sitting on eggs to incubate them Sharif - sheriff Sharp as a tack.-- very crisp, well defined, clean, neat, smart Sheet berry -- cockle burr She has let herself go. -- She is looking bad. Sho'nuff, shore 'nuff, sure 'nuff -- certainly Shoulda -- should have Shevel -- shovel Shy on the collar -- mule or horse not pulling very well; not pulling his weight; not doing his part Silent as a tomb. Can't get any quieter than that!!! Slap out of town -- way out of town; in the country Slide truck -- small mule-drawn truck with burlap sides; used to haul d'backa from the fields to the curing barn; usually sits on two wooden 2 x 4 runners/slides. Sling a nasty, cut a circle -- spinning rear wheels of a car to sling dirt and gravel, often in a circular pattern. Slop -- a soupy mixture of table scraps, leftovers and, sometimes, ground grain, fed to swine Slop jar -- chamber pot, usually kept under Mama's bed (I think she was the only one in our family to use it occasionally at night as necessary; the rest of us went outside.) Smart as a briar -- very smart Smidgen -- just a little bit Snake in the grass -- a no good, no account, sorry scoundrel, a crook. (Sometimes used in lieu of landlord or certain landlord's name - that's where I heard it most, anyway.) Snib -- just brush the edge of it (He snibbed the ball.) Sorry-- no good scoundrel; also, an expression of remorse Sottin' out d'backa -- transplanting tobacco Souge -- stick or ram something in with great force 'Spensive -- expensive Spinnin' like a top or in a whirl -- moving fast, always in motion S'pose -- supposed to or suppose; ought to, should, required to; also, what if Squeatden -- Let's go eat, then. Steering knob -- a knob mounted on outer rim of a steering wheel to facilitate hard, rapid steering with one hand Stick in the mud -- stubborn, slow to change Stob -- stake Stomp -- quick pressure with the bottom of a foot Store-bought -- professionally-made, bought in a store, not home-made Straw that broke the camel's back -- the last in a series of events that finally produced a certain result Strowed -- strewn Sturning wheel -- steering wheel Suckrin', toppin' d'backa -- breaking the suckers and/or tops off of tobacco plants. Sugar -- a kiss - Come here and give me some sugar. Any Southern child knows the difference between this and that sweet stuff on the dinner table. Sumpn -- something Suppah, supper -- evening meal, dinner Sure as shootin' -- certainly Sut -- soot Sweet as apple pie -- a sweet, agreeable disposition or personality Swe'gum tree -- sweet gum tree Swell -- very good, also to expand Swingle tree -- single tree - short beam device used to connect a single draft animal's harness to a load (plow, wagon, etc.) Take up with -- develop a relationship regardless of good reasons against it 'Taters, 'tatahs -- potatoes Talking through his hat -- 'doesn't have a clue about what is happening Tawk, tawkin' -- talk, talking 'Tend to, attend to -- take care of That's a different set of dogs. -- That's an unrelated family. That's a plenny. That's a plenty. -- That's enough. Thang - thing The cat is out of the bag. -- The secret is out. The dog ate my homework. -- I did not do my homework. The house has lights. -- The house has electricity. The onlyest -- by itself - absolutely the only one There ya go. 'Air ya go. -- Here it is. The skinny, the scoop, the straight poop -- information, the truth The whole nine yards, the whole kit and kabouddle -- all of it Thingamagig, thingamabob-- thing Thumb, hitch or bum a ride -- stand by the road and ask passersby for a ride by holding your thumb up and motioning with it in the direction you want to go; hitch hiking Thunder mug -- chamber pot Tight -- stingy, usually with money (reluctant to spend money) Tight as Dick's hat band -- very tight Toss in your hat, and see if it's thrown back out. -- a test of acceptance. If you toss in your hat and it is thrown back out, you are in big trouble!!! Tote -- to lug, carry, or transport, usually, in one's arms or hands T'rectly, d'rectly -- immediately Truckin' d'backa -- hauling the newly primed tobacco to the barn to be strung onto sticks to facilitate hanging it in the curing barn. Tryin' to get up with 'im -- trying to find him, trying to meet with him. Tuckered out -- exhausted, tired Turnip salad or salit -- cooked turnip greens, best eaten with cornbread sticks or hush puppies. Twiced -- twice, two times Ugly -- unpleasant or disagreeable Ugly as homemade soap -- really ugly Um-humh -- yes Ump-unh - no Up'air -- up there Up and at 'em. Rise and shine. -- Get up and get started! Uppity -- acting beyond/above his or her raising/training Upsey, Daisy -- Get up. Up yonh, up yondah, up yonder -- up there a little way (a short distance) Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
Re: [MBZ] I'm having an urge
On June 9, 2015 at 3:46 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It's a friggin mini-van for goodness sake. Having a star on the grill does not make it more desirable than a Toyota mini-van. No, but 30+ mpg and 2500lb payload capacity might. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Benz-powered home
http://www.engadget.com/2015/06/09/mercedes-benz-home-battery --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] splitting
i'm selling a bunch of these for a friend you bolt them to a jacked up powered car wheel with the tire off and run the car to split THEY ARE CRAZY MAN!! look for stickler and youtube videos thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] tin roof, rusted
folks, i asked one of the b-52's about the tin roof, rusted …. we'll see what he says ( i messaged him) i had never even thought about it meaning more than the obvious rusty tin roof of the love shack thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I might get these
just for grins, cheepcheep enough http://www.amazon.com/Projection-Shadow-Welcome-projector-Mercedes-Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm having an urge
Plus the reviewer said it rode pretty nice. --R On 6/9/15 3:54 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: On June 9, 2015 at 3:46 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It's a friggin mini-van for goodness sake. Having a star on the grill does not make it more desirable than a Toyota mini-van. No, but 30+ mpg and 2500lb payload capacity might. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I might get these
oops that didn't work this will http://www.amazon.com/Projection-Shadow-Welcome-projector-Mercedes-Benz/dp/B00K8LLIH0 --R On 6/9/15 5:50 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: just for grins, cheepcheep enough http://www.amazon.com/Projection-Shadow-Welcome-projector-Mercedes-Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I might get these
I’ve seen those before - not the parts themselves, but the projected MB logo under the doors. Wondered how they did it. Can’t let the youngster see those - the S500 will have a set before I know it. Dan On Jun 9, 2015, at 6:12 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: oops that didn't work this will http://www.amazon.com/Projection-Shadow-Welcome-projector-Mercedes-Benz/dp/B00K8LLIH0 --R On 6/9/15 5:50 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: just for grins, cheepcheep enough http://www.amazon.com/Projection-Shadow-Welcome-projector-Mercedes-Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change?
State data isn't out yet but MA was very dry in May, less than an inch I'd guess. We're way up now, probably had close to an inch today... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From:Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Date:Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 3:01 PM Subject:Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change? Not to worry: May was wettest month in U.S. historyPublished: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 Last month was the wettest month on record in the contiguous United States, according to National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration meteorologists. Nearly 200 trillion gallons of rain and snow fell over the Lower 48 states in May, according to climate scientist Jake Crouch, with an average of 4.36 inches of total precipitation falling on the Lower 48. A stalled pattern of storms dumped water on the central United States, especially Texas and Oklahoma, to drive up the numbers. Those states had been in five-year droughts that ended in just a month. It's like one disaster ending a catastrophe, Crouch said. Fourteen states had one of their 10 wettest Mays ever; all of them were located west of the Mississippi River and east of California. This May was one of only seven Mays on record in the United States to average more than 4 inches of total precipitation. But it's hard to make any connections from a single month to climate change, Crouch said (AP/*New York Times* http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/06/08/science/ap-us-sci-wettest-may.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fscience_r=0, June 8). *-- BTP* On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: This Congress??? You must be joking. On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew, oh my, you must help them, HELP THEM!!! Quick, get a bill in front of Congress to start a new program to HELP THEM!!! Wait, they are humans, very adaptable and hard working humans at that, and they've already solved the issue at their level... All they needed was to be left alone and allowed to use their minds and their resources. Imagine that! Move along folks, nothing to see here, move along... - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Which was clearly off point. The point is that farmers whose LIVELIHOOD depends on climate norms have had to adjust their planting schedules due to a major shift in climate trends - a large increase in temperatures. These aren't liberals or tree huggers, nor do most of them vote Democratic I would surmise. They have credibility in reporting on what is happening to the climate because it affects their income. If you fail to see this then you are like the figurative man pretending to be asleep. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change?
Yeah, so what?Sure maybe the climate is warming, but we've been coming out of an ice age for a couple thousand years right? Isn't global warming actually NORMAL in the age of human experience? The temperature record goes back to the late 1800s but the last ice age ended around 11,000 years ago. Haven't we been steadily warming since then? Seems like its a big ask to prove that humans are making the planet warm up when it was doing it anyway. -Curt Do not confuse special cause variation with normal variation. This is exactly what Curt is saying. NORMAL variation of this planet has ranged from ice age to the tropics. In medieval times, Erik the Red's viking ship burned so much fossil fuel it warmed the whole planet and greenland was great for growing stuff when he got there. NOT! The planet warmed without Erik's help, and even the hordes of viking subrubans and escalades didn't raise the temp. Ol Erik was an early land promoter. Ater that the planet went into a mini Ice age. THen it warmed for a couple hunnert years. Now it is cooling again. All the falsified evidence doesn't change the facts, or science. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Morons
There's been one for sale here for awhile. Looks nice but the guy is asking too much. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Jun 9, 2015, at 9:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: There is a 300sdl on Craigslist that is rough, says it needs glow plugs because it only starts with starting fluid. He said it has never been overheated but he had to add coolant to it. I told him it most likely has a cracked head. He says it does not have a cracked head because he had it checked out by a local MB mechanic and he said it does not have a cracked head, it just builds up pressure and is something in the circulation system. What a dummy. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Benz-powered home
I thought that MB was using Tesla batteries - http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-11-02/mercedes-puts-tesla-technology-beneath-hood-to-chase-bmw I guess they are just buying the cells, then doing their own thing with them? On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 8:28 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://www.engadget.com/2015/06/09/mercedes-benz-home-battery --R The batteries for 7 of the cars that shall not be named will equal 8 Mercedes batteries. The small cells that comprise them can be replaced. The battery can be rebuilt by any DIYer willing to carefully follow instructions. There are many sources for the batteries and cells new and used. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=prius+rebuilt+battery Gerry _ -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Morons
There are more of them being born all the time.I looked at a Coleman lantern at a yard sale the other day, painted tank thats all rusty along the bottom. Thats stainless she says They go for big money on eBay. She's asking $90. I can get the same model brand new for $85... -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 9:31 PM Subject: [MBZ] Morons There is a 300sdl on Craigslist that is rough, says it needs glow plugs because it only starts with starting fluid. He said it has never been overheated but he had to add coolant to it. I told him it most likely has a cracked head. He says it does not have a cracked head because he had it checked out by a local MB mechanic and he said it does not have a cracked head, it just builds up pressure and is something in the circulation system. What a dummy. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] splitting
Also known as a unicorn. They're know to be dangerous. If I were going to use one I might try it with a lawn tractor but almost certainly not with a car. Be absolutely sure the car is attached to something solid... -Curt From: Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 6:45 PM Subject: [MBZ] splitting i'm selling a bunch of these for a friend you bolt them to a jacked up powered car wheel with the tire off and run the car to split THEY ARE CRAZY MAN!! look for stickler and youtube videos thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] This appears to be nice
1989 Mercedes 300 CE http://fortsmith.craigslist.org/cto/5066493460.html via cPro Craigslist App iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Diesel for Poos
http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/cto/5044800929.html May be in WI or may be in FL. Hard to tell. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Benz-powered home
Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://www.engadget.com/2015/06/09/mercedes-benz-home-battery --R The batteries for 7 of the cars that shall not be named will equal 8 Mercedes batteries. The small cells that comprise them can be replaced. The battery can be rebuilt by any DIYer willing to carefully follow instructions. There are many sources for the batteries and cells new and used. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=prius+rebuilt+battery Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Morons
There is a 300sdl on Craigslist that is rough, says it needs glow plugs because it only starts with starting fluid. He said it has never been overheated but he had to add coolant to it. I told him it most likely has a cracked head. He says it does not have a cracked head because he had it checked out by a local MB mechanic and he said it does not have a cracked head, it just builds up pressure and is something in the circulation system. What a dummy. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tin roof, rusted
I've always thought it was a girl who got pregnant by mistake. We will see Bob R On Jun 9, 2015 3:58 PM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: folks, i asked one of the b-52's about the tin roof, rusted …. we'll see what he says ( i messaged him) i had never even thought about it meaning more than the obvious rusty tin roof of the love shack thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel for Poos
That’s Valrico, which happens to be where I live. I can tell by the architecture and the fauna. I have five cars right now and no space for what I have. It’s like a flippin’ Chinese fire drill when a car gets moved around here. Tomorrow parts arrive from Germany for the S500, and hopefully it will be dealt with. My super duper dealer parts guy got me a reman MB MAF for less than an aftermarket one. I love him. Dan On Jun 9, 2015, at 10:00 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/cto/5044800929.html May be in WI or may be in FL. Hard to tell. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel for Poos
I should say the pictures are definitely Valrico, the car could be anywhere. Dan On Jun 9, 2015, at 11:05 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: That’s Valrico, which happens to be where I live. I can tell by the architecture and the fauna. I have five cars right now and no space for what I have. It’s like a flippin’ Chinese fire drill when a car gets moved around here. Tomorrow parts arrive from Germany for the S500, and hopefully it will be dealt with. My super duper dealer parts guy got me a reman MB MAF for less than an aftermarket one. I love him. Dan On Jun 9, 2015, at 10:00 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/cto/5044800929.html May be in WI or may be in FL. Hard to tell. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Benz-powered home
My take is they simply are too huge for most people. On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 9:55 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I thought that MB was using Tesla batteries - http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-11-02/mercedes-puts-tesla-technology-beneath-hood-to-chase-bmw I guess they are just buying the cells, then doing their own thing with them? On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 8:28 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://www.engadget.com/2015/06/09/mercedes-benz-home-battery --R The batteries for 7 of the cars that shall not be named will equal 8 Mercedes batteries. The small cells that comprise them can be replaced. The battery can be rebuilt by any DIYer willing to carefully follow instructions. There are many sources for the batteries and cells new and used. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=prius+rebuilt+battery Gerry _ -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change?
I'm sure the DoI and BuRec are working on it as we speak. What we _need_ is the BuSab! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] tin roof rusted b-52 (band) not plane
OK here's what keith from b-52's remembers about the line in the song Hey! You know, that was Cindy's line and as far as I know it came about simply because we were jamming and I suddenly stopped the tape of music and Cindy continued her line, Tin roof rusted! She never mentioned it being about anything other than describing the atmosphere. Life is sweet! How are you? thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This appears to be nice
Why would you advertise aftermarket KYBs on a pricy classic Benz? On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 8:37 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 1989 Mercedes 300 CE http://fortsmith.craigslist.org/cto/5066493460.html via cPro Craigslist App iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This appears to be nice
That was my thought also - they need to be replaced by the new owner soon. On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 10:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Why would you advertise aftermarket KYBs on a pricy classic Benz? -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
