Re: PESO - Waning Light

2005-02-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
Thanks.  I was pleased with how the fountain turned out.

I think it was Joe who was talking about the Tokina ATX 400/5.6.  A
couple came up on KEH and so I decided to get one.  I am particularly
pleased with the size and weight.  Some time back I had a Pentax A
400/5.6 and found that it was too big to go in the bag and so I just
didn't use it much.  This Tokina is really no bigger than my K 300/4
and so fits nicely in the bag.  It handles pretty well and so far it
seems to be pretty good.

Bruce


Saturday, February 5, 2005, 7:47:17 AM, you wrote:

MC Nice shot - the subtle colors in the sunset are excellent.

MC I also really liked the fountain shot you had elsewhere in your portfolio.

MC The ATX 400 f5.6 must of been a good find - I have one but it was hard to
MC locate and that was within a few months of their being discontinued. I've
MC been quite happy with the results gotten with it and the *ist-D - the 'crop
MC factor' makes for a nice, portable, 600mm equivalent.

MC - MCC
MC - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
MC Mark Cassino Photography
MC Kalamazoo, MI
MC www.markcassino.com
MC - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
MC - Original Message - 
MC From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MC To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
MC Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 2:07 AM
MC Subject: PESO - Waning Light


 It's been a while since I last posted one.  I've been quite busy with
 work - not too busy to take some pictures, but haven't had time to get
 any posted.

 Today as the sun was setting, I stepped outside my home office and saw
 this sight.  Went right back in and got the camera.

 Taken with *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6 AF (newly acquired), set on a
 stone wall for support.

 The image was converted in C1 and about 10% color saturation added -
 no other changes other than sizing/sharpening for the web.

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_1083.htm


 -- 
 Best regards,
 Bruce


 






Re: PESO - Waning Light

2005-02-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
Thanks Marnie.  It certainly does go down quickly - I shot about six
frames overall with the sun descending and some exposure bracketing.
This one came out best in my eyes.

Bruce


Saturday, February 5, 2005, 8:01:36 AM, you wrote:

Wow! Nice one, Bruce. It's really hard getting the sun in that position
(since once there it sinks fast). Nice color.

Marnie aka Doe :-)





Re: PESO - Waning Light

2005-02-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
Thanks John.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Saturday, February 5, 2005, 9:19:05 AM, you wrote:

JF I also particularly enjoyed the mountain/sky shots, and the scarecrow.

JF John



JF On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 10:47:17 -0500, Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JF wrote:

 Nice shot - the subtle colors in the sunset are excellent.

 I also really liked the fountain shot you had elsewhere in your  
 portfolio.

 The ATX 400 f5.6 must of been a good find - I have one but it was hard
 to locate and that was within a few months of their being discontinued.
 I've been quite happy with the results gotten with it and the *ist-D -
 the 'crop factor' makes for a nice, portable, 600mm equivalent.

 - MCC
 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
 Mark Cassino Photography
 Kalamazoo, MI
 www.markcassino.com
 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
 - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 2:07 AM
 Subject: PESO - Waning Light


 It's been a while since I last posted one.  I've been quite busy with
 work - not too busy to take some pictures, but haven't had time to get
 any posted.

 Today as the sun was setting, I stepped outside my home office and saw
 this sight.  Went right back in and got the camera.

 Taken with *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6 AF (newly acquired), set on a
 stone wall for support.

 The image was converted in C1 and about 10% color saturation added -
 no other changes other than sizing/sharpening for the web.

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_1083.htm


 -- Best regards,
 Bruce














Re: PESO - Waning Light

2005-02-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
Joe,

Hope I didn't bore you too much grin

Your DPReview recommendation is probably what really got me looking at
the Tokina at KEH.  I finally bit the bullet and ordered one of them.
What I have tested so far, it seems quite good.  Even 5.6 seems
reasonably sharp.  I'm not sure I would shell out the amount that the
FA Pentax costs.  I just don't use a 400 enough to pay the ultimate
price for a very minor improvement.

At one time, I had the Pentax A 400/5.6 and just found it too big to
really take along with me.  The Tokina is a better size/weight and
will fit in my bag nicely.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Saturday, February 5, 2005, 3:04:19 PM, you wrote:

JT Another stunning image from Bruce. Yawn. Bruce, you always have stunning
JT images. Don't you get bored being perfect?

JT Just kidding of course. I do greatly admire and enjoy your photography.

JT Give me your thoughts on the optics of the Tokina AT-X AF 400. I have
JT had one for a while and think it is pretty good, except for f5.6. In
JT fact I recommended it on dpreview recently and, lo and behold, within a
JT short while one of two at KEH disappeared. Lately I have been thinking
JT about trading it in for the FA 400 f5.6. The attraction of the FA 400 is
JT that it is just about as good at f5.6 as it is stopped down. I don't
JT know whether that is worth spending the money, though. Still pondering.

JT Joe






NorCal PDML Outing

2005-02-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
This is a notice for anyone in reasonable driving distance to the Bay
area - We are going to have a PDML photo outing on March 5th.  The
plan is to meet and shoot at one of the missions in the area.  I've
got to get that finalized, but the date is solid.  Hopefully any of
you near San Francisco (I'm in Sacramento) will join us for a fun day.

Check your calendars and let me know if you might be able to join us.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce




RE: PESO - Waning Light

2005-02-06 Thread Jens Bladt
Beautiful picture, Bruce. I especially like the subtle colours and shades
around the sun.

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 6. februar 2005 08:57
Til: Paul Stenquist
Emne: Re: PESO - Waning Light


Glad you liked it.  I was glad that I was able to get to my camera
quick enough before the sun was gone.



Saturday, February 5, 2005, 5:03:03 AM, you wrote:

PS Beautiful image. Great composition and frame. It's a special moment
PS well seen and well executed. Thanks for sharing it.
PS Paul
PS On Feb 5, 2005, at 2:07 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

 It's been a while since I last posted one.  I've been quite busy with
 work - not too busy to take some pictures, but haven't had time to get
 any posted.

 Today as the sun was setting, I stepped outside my home office and saw
 this sight.  Went right back in and got the camera.

 Taken with *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6 AF (newly acquired), set on a
 stone wall for support.

 The image was converted in C1 and about 10% color saturation added -
 no other changes other than sizing/sharpening for the web.

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_1083.htm


 --
 Best regards,
 Bruce









Re: PAW: First Robin of Spring

2005-02-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
Geez Paul, I can't believe how well you can hand hold.  I put that new
400 on without a converter and it is hard to hold still.  I can see
that I have lots of practicing to do.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Saturday, February 5, 2005, 3:20:22 PM, you wrote:

pcn The temperature reached almost 50 degrees F in Michigan
pcn today. I went shooting on the banks of the Rouge River and was
pcn surprised to see a few Robins. It seems a bit early for these
pcn spring arrivals, but I'm not complaining. Maybe they know
pcn something we don't. Here's one. Again, this is handheld with the
pcn *istD, tha A 400/5.6 and the A2XS converter. So the fov is
pcn equivelant to a 1200 mm lens on a 35mm camera. ISO 800, f 5.6 @
pcn 1/1000.
pcn http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3095297size=lg






RE: teleconverters

2005-02-06 Thread Jens Bladt
That's a very good idea, Amita.
Then you don't have to carry too much gear. I'm not sure how great it is to
use a convertter with a zoom, though. Primes are better, but your lens is
supposed to be excellent.
Kenko's (Tamron) are supposed to be very good, according to tests done by
FotoMagazin in Germany. They gave the old (MF) MC7  the highest (SUPER)
grade.

Take a look at: http://www.nikonlinks.com/articles_teleconverter_review.htm

BTW: I can also recommend the Pentax 1.7x AF Adapter (discontinued). It's
absolutely brilliant. I have made professional (getting published) panoramas
with this one and primes like SMC K 2.8/105mm, SMC K 2.5/135mm and SMC
M*4/300mm.

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Amita Guha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 6. februar 2005 04:23
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: teleconverters


I am trying to figure out my kit for my London trip. I think I'm going to go
with my Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 Di and a teleconverter. Now I have to figure
out which teleconverter to get. BH has 2x teleconverters by the following
manufacturers:

Tokina
Tamron
Kenko
Sigma (APO)

The Kenko is the cheapest and the Sigma is the most expensive, but that one
doesn't fit all cameras. I would appreciate any advice about which one of
these is best optically. I've seen some pretty impressive results from the
Tamron but none using the *istD.

Thanks,
Amtia




Re: French on-line dealers

2005-02-06 Thread Bob W
Hi,

Saturday, February 5, 2005, 6:43:05 PM, Peter wrote:

 Utterly correct, but ... let's say Technikdirekt (Germany) or BH sell
 cameras, lenses, cases, tripods, studio gear, flash equipment, memory
 cards, editing gear, software ... What about a French equivalent?

I have never seen an equivalent shop in France (doesn't mean there
isn't one, of course). The biggest retailer of photo equipment in
France is, I think, fnac, which is a large bricks-and-mortar chain of
department stores.
http://www.fnac.com/

click the 'Image  Son' tab.
on the left hand menu:
Digital photography = photo numerique
Film photography = photo argentique

each of these has its own menu on the left, and too many levels of
submenu beneath that.


-- 
Cheers,
 Bob



RE: teleconverters

2005-02-06 Thread Jens Bladt
Test results:
Results with a converter are highly dependent on the prime lens.  This just
makes sense.  The converter is simply magnifying the central portion of the
original image.  If the original image has any flaws, the converter will
magnify them.  Flaws that may not have been visible in the original, may now
be seen.

Annother thing:
If you bring a converter - bring a tripod, a beanbag or anything else to
keep the camera steady!


Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Amita Guha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 6. februar 2005 06:27
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: RE: teleconverters


 Try to find an A2X-S Pentax converter. They're fairly common
 on ebay. It's very good. Paul

I was actually looking for an autofocus teleconverter...

Amita




RE: teleconverters

2005-02-06 Thread Jens Bladt
see:
http://www.digitalfotoclub.com/products/Kenko_Kenko_MC4_2x_4_el__TeleConvert
er_Pentax_AF_mc4afp.html

and

http://www.digitalfotoclub.com/products/Tamron_Tamron_1_4x_TeleConverter_f_P
entax_AF_USA_af14p700.html
(two of these is on ebay auction right now)

and

http://www.digitalfotoclub.com/products/Tamron_Tamron_2x_TeleConverter_7_Ele
ment_f_Pentax_AF_USA_af20p700.html

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Amita Guha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 6. februar 2005 06:27
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: RE: teleconverters


 Try to find an A2X-S Pentax converter. They're fairly common
 on ebay. It's very good. Paul

I was actually looking for an autofocus teleconverter...

Amita




Re: New LX Owner

2005-02-06 Thread Jostein
If the body has been serviced by a competent person, any of the 
time-series characteristics can have been upgraded, no matter what the 
number of the bottom plate says. My LX, for example, is an early 1980 
model, but have ISO range up to 3200 after replacing the ISO wheel.

Note also that the bottom plate number is just the bottom plate 
number. It's NOT the production serial number. If the bottom plate has 
been changed, the number will be misleading. The true serial number on 
LXen can be found inside, in the in the film cartridge groove, on the 
side towards the shutter. It's a six-digit number painted on with 
laquer. You have to hold the camera so that it catch the light from 
the right angle to see it.

Unfortunately, I don't have the information on what the different 
digits mean. My pentax rep. told me he was not allowed to tell. 
However, he said that some digits signify the particular production 
run, which can in turn be coupled to production date. A knowledgeable 
pentax rep will thus be able to tell the exact age of a particular 
camera.

I've posted this information to the list before, but it appears that 
some people find it hard to believe that there is a serial number on 
the chassis.

Jostein
- Original Message - 
From: Michel Carrère-Gée [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 6:34 AM
Subject: Re: New LX Owner


A japanese page on LX variations:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?lp=ja_entrurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.pentax-fan.jp%2fBODY%2fLX_CHG.html
Mine has new shutter release, 3200 Asa; but the meter doesn't come 
on when the exposure compensation lock button is pressed., and the 
old pattern on the first curtain .
 and sitcky mirror !!  (serviced)




RE: PAW: First Robin of Spring

2005-02-06 Thread Don Sanderson
I agree with Bruce Paul, your ability to hand hold at thes FL's
is quite amazing. This is a wonderful photo for a hand held shot.
Is there any special technique you use to do this or are you
just steady handed naturally?
I've found that I need to use a shutter speed of at least 2x
the focal length to assure reasonable sharpness with any
physically long lens.
Many can do better than this but I can't, it's quite frustrating.
Any pointers for us movers and shakers?

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 2:19 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: PAW: First Robin of Spring
 
 
 Geez Paul, I can't believe how well you can hand hold.  I put that new
 400 on without a converter and it is hard to hold still.  I can see
 that I have lots of practicing to do.
 
 -- 
 Best regards,
 Bruce
 
 
 Saturday, February 5, 2005, 3:20:22 PM, you wrote:
 
 pcn The temperature reached almost 50 degrees F in Michigan
 pcn today. I went shooting on the banks of the Rouge River and was
 pcn surprised to see a few Robins. It seems a bit early for these
 pcn spring arrivals, but I'm not complaining. Maybe they know
 pcn something we don't. Here's one. Again, this is handheld with the
 pcn *istD, tha A 400/5.6 and the A2XS converter. So the fov is
 pcn equivelant to a 1200 mm lens on a 35mm camera. ISO 800, f 5.6 @
 pcn 1/1000.
 pcn http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3095297size=lg
 
 
 
 



Re: OLD Film needs developing

2005-02-06 Thread m.9.wilson

 
 From: Jim and Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/02/05 Sat PM 03:22:55 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: OLD Film needs developing
 
 Does anyone know where I can get some really old exposed film developed to
 see if any pictures survived?  

Try this lot:

http://www.processc22.co.uk/

mike

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Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/




OT: Photography exhibition in Oz

2005-02-06 Thread David S
To all the Aussie PDML'ers living in Sydney, I saw a story on 
Sunday about Australian photographer Bill Henson. He has a
retrospective exhibition showing at the Art Gallery of NSW until the 3
April. Looks like it might be interesting.

Examples of his work can be found here:

http://www.roslynoxley9.com.au/artists/18/Bill_Henson/profile/

Click on the exhibitions links on the left. The scans a pretty bad,
but they give you an idea of his work.

Dave S

(Didn't show up after 7 hours so I'm resending)



Re: teleconverters

2005-02-06 Thread John Whittingham
I've just got myself a Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 Di (from a list member) after 
reading some really great reviews, had to decide between Sigma EX, Tokina ATX 
and the Tarmron. Apparently the lens works really well with the Tamron 1.4x 
if you can live with the focal length restriction:

the article:

http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/reviews/tamron_28_75.html

I'm planning on trying mine with a Kenko 1.5x SHQ when I get some good light. 
I'm not sure you could use the Sigma EX because of the proximity of the rear 
lens element on the Tamron.

John


-- Original Message ---
From: Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 22:22:52 -0500
Subject: teleconverters

 I am trying to figure out my kit for my London trip. I think I'm 
 going to go with my Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 Di and a teleconverter. Now 
 I have to figure out which teleconverter to get. BH has 2x 
 teleconverters by the following manufacturers:
 
 Tokina
 Tamron
 Kenko
 Sigma (APO)
 
 The Kenko is the cheapest and the Sigma is the most expensive, but 
 that one doesn't fit all cameras. I would appreciate any advice 
 about which one of these is best optically. I've seen some pretty 
 impressive results from the Tamron but none using the *istD.
 
 Thanks,
 Amtia
--- End of Original Message ---



Re: teleconverters (resent)

2005-02-06 Thread John Whittingham
I've just got myself a Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 Di (from a list member) after 
reading some really great reviews, had to decide between Sigma EX, Tokina ATX 
and the Tarmron. Apparently the lens works really well with the Tamron 1.4x 
if you can live with the focal length restriction: 

the article: 

http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/reviews/tamron_28_75.html 

I'm planning on trying mine with a Kenko 1.5x SHQ when I get some good light. 
I'm not sure you could use the Sigma EX because of the proximity of the rear 
lens element on the Tamron. 

John 


-- Original Message ---
From: Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 22:22:52 -0500
Subject: teleconverters

 I am trying to figure out my kit for my London trip. I think I'm 
 going to go with my Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 Di and a teleconverter. Now 
 I have to figure out which teleconverter to get. BH has 2x 
 teleconverters by the following manufacturers:
 
 Tokina
 Tamron
 Kenko
 Sigma (APO)
 
 The Kenko is the cheapest and the Sigma is the most expensive, but 
 that one doesn't fit all cameras. I would appreciate any advice 
 about which one of these is best optically. I've seen some pretty 
 impressive results from the Tamron but none using the *istD.
 
 Thanks,
 Amtia
--- End of Original Message ---



RE: teleconverters

2005-02-06 Thread Jens Bladt
I just tried a consumer zoom and two Pentax primes with the Pentax-F 1.7 AF
adapter.
All at F8, 800 ASA and -0.7 exposure correction and 1/125 oer 1/250sec.
Tamron 3.5-5.6/28-80mm (The AF adapter would not auto focus at long focal
lengths)
Pentax SMC K 2.8/105mm
Pentax SMC K 2.5/135mm

The reslults can be examined at:
http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p11551016.htmle

I guess a better zoom lens would give sharper results, than my 60 USD Tamron
consumer zoom.

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 6. februar 2005 11:20
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: RE: teleconverters


Test results:
Results with a converter are highly dependent on the prime lens.  This just
makes sense.  The converter is simply magnifying the central portion of the
original image.  If the original image has any flaws, the converter will
magnify them.  Flaws that may not have been visible in the original, may now
be seen.

Annother thing:
If you bring a converter - bring a tripod, a beanbag or anything else to
keep the camera steady!


Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Amita Guha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 6. februar 2005 06:27
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: RE: teleconverters


 Try to find an A2X-S Pentax converter. They're fairly common
 on ebay. It's very good. Paul

I was actually looking for an autofocus teleconverter...

Amita





RE: teleconverters

2005-02-06 Thread Jens Bladt
Bad link. Try this:
http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p11551016.html

I just tried a consumer zoom and two Pentax primes with the Pentax-F 1.7 AF
adapter.
All at F8, 800 ASA and -0.7 exposure correction and 1/125 oer 1/250sec.
Tamron 3.5-5.6/28-80mm (The AF adapter would not auto focus at long focal
lengths)
Pentax SMC K 2.8/105mm
Pentax SMC K 2.5/135mm

The reslults can be examined at:
http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p11551016.htmle

I guess a better zoom lens would give sharper results, than my 60 USD Tamron
consumer zoom.

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 6. februar 2005 11:20
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: RE: teleconverters


Test results:
Results with a converter are highly dependent on the prime lens.  This just
makes sense.  The converter is simply magnifying the central portion of the
original image.  If the original image has any flaws, the converter will
magnify them.  Flaws that may not have been visible in the original, may now
be seen.

Annother thing:
If you bring a converter - bring a tripod, a beanbag or anything else to
keep the camera steady!


Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Amita Guha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 6. februar 2005 06:27
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: RE: teleconverters


 Try to find an A2X-S Pentax converter. They're fairly common
 on ebay. It's very good. Paul

I was actually looking for an autofocus teleconverter...

Amita





RE: New LX Owner

2005-02-06 Thread Malcolm Smith
Jostein wrote:

 If the body has been serviced by a competent person, any of 
 the time-series characteristics can have been upgraded, no 
 matter what the number of the bottom plate says. My LX, for 
 example, is an early 1980 model, but have ISO range up to 
 3200 after replacing the ISO wheel.

The dial data back can be upgraded too, if this an accessory you want.
Although I sold mine as was with a last year date of 1999, I was told that
if I had it serviced by Pentax, the end year could be changed to 2007 or
2009 (I forget which).

Excellent camera.

Malcolm 




RE: PESO - Waning Light

2005-02-06 Thread Jens Bladt
..now I (too) noticed, that there are more shots. All very beautiful. 
I especially enjoyed the birds in front of the wave! It's brilliant!
Jens

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 5. februar 2005 08:07
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: PESO - Waning Light


It's been a while since I last posted one.  I've been quite busy with
work - not too busy to take some pictures, but haven't had time to get
any posted.

Today as the sun was setting, I stepped outside my home office and saw
this sight.  Went right back in and got the camera.

Taken with *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6 AF (newly acquired), set on a
stone wall for support.

The image was converted in C1 and about 10% color saturation added -
no other changes other than sizing/sharpening for the web.

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_1083.htm


-- 
Best regards,
Bruce





Re: PESO: Spit to Manly walk

2005-02-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/5/2005 4:52:55 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi Marnie,

Last two were with the Zenitar 16mm. Pretty usable lens for the price.

D

That's what I was wondering. Very little distortion in the last one. I guess 
(whoever, sorry, forget who) was right -- if you put the horizon line through 
the middle of the picture there is less distortion.

Interesting! Something I will have to try. Thanks again.

Marnie aka Doe 



RE: flash on *istDs (was: Survey D and DS result)

2005-02-06 Thread brooksdj
I did a few experiment shots last week,with 280T and some Saturday with the 
onboard flash.
With the Nikon, it shoots better in full M and settings of 1/60 at F4 or so.

I found the D tends to OE a bit in full M mode,but the Av mode,with -0.5ev, 
seems to be
better. I
tried the 280T in M mode at F 4-5.6 and shutters of 1/60-1/90 and the laters 
seem
better,but still
abit harsh.Not really overexposed but it looks like every light in the world is 
on,but
detail is there.
The 280T seems better in a bounce mode with a -0.5 -1.0 in ev.

Dave



Re: PAW: First Robin of Spring

2005-02-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Bruce. However, I can't hold the camera perfectly still with a 
400 and 2X. But at 1000th of a second, you only have to accomplish a 
relatively still moment to get a decent shot. I have another that I 
shot off the tripod that is noticeably sharper. However, the bird's 
back is turned toward the camera.
Paul
On Feb 6, 2005, at 3:19 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

Geez Paul, I can't believe how well you can hand hold.  I put that new
400 on without a converter and it is hard to hold still.  I can see
that I have lots of practicing to do.
--
Best regards,
Bruce
Saturday, February 5, 2005, 3:20:22 PM, you wrote:
pcn The temperature reached almost 50 degrees F in Michigan
pcn today. I went shooting on the banks of the Rouge River and was
pcn surprised to see a few Robins. It seems a bit early for these
pcn spring arrivals, but I'm not complaining. Maybe they know
pcn something we don't. Here's one. Again, this is handheld with the
pcn *istD, tha A 400/5.6 and the A2XS converter. So the fov is
pcn equivelant to a 1200 mm lens on a 35mm camera. ISO 800, f 5.6 @
pcn 1/1000.
pcn http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3095297size=lg





Re: teleconverters

2005-02-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/6/2005 4:17:01 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I guess a better zoom lens would give sharper results, than my 60 USD Tamron
consumer zoom.

Jens Bladt

Probably. I found this interesting too. Thanks, Jens.

Marnie aka Doe 



Re: French on-line dealers

2005-02-06 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
Bob W a écrit :
Hi,
Saturday, February 5, 2005, 6:43:05 PM, Peter wrote:
 

Utterly correct, but ... let's say Technikdirekt (Germany) or BH sell
cameras, lenses, cases, tripods, studio gear, flash equipment, memory
cards, editing gear, software ... What about a French equivalent?
   

I have never seen an equivalent shop in France (doesn't mean there
isn't one, of course). The biggest retailer of photo equipment in
France is, I think, fnac, which is a large bricks-and-mortar chain of
department stores.
http://www.fnac.com/
 

The prices of the photo gear in France are rather raised, compared with 
others European countries.
The marketing strategy of the importers is not favorable to the falls of 
price.
Many amateurs seek better prices on the Net or in store, often in 
Germany or USA.
The FNAC is rather a general public store and much of experts avoid it 
if possible, their prices are correct but far from the best purchases.

Michel, Frenchie


Re: First Robin of Spring

2005-02-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
I looked at this shot on my good monitor this morning and quickly 
revised it. It was quite a bit oversaturated. I had originally done the 
conversion on my i-book while watching a movie. Not a good idea :-)
Paul
On Feb 5, 2005, at 10:03 PM, Mark Cassino wrote:


The temperature reached almost 50 degrees F in Michigan today. I went 
shooting on the banks of the Rouge River and was surprised to see a 
few Robins. It seems a bit early for these spring arrivals, but I'm 
not complaining. Maybe they know something we don't. Here's one. 
Again, this is handheld with the *istD, tha A 400/5.6 and the A2XS 
converter. So the fov is equivelant to a 1200 mm lens on a 35mm 
camera. ISO 800, f 5.6 @ 1/1000.
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3095297size=lg





Re: teleconverters (resent twice)

2005-02-06 Thread John Whittingham

I've just got myself a Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 Di (from a list member) after 
reading some really great reviews, had to decide between Sigma EX, Tokina ATX 
and the Tarmron. Apparently the lens works really well with the Tamron 1.4x 
if you can live with the focal length restriction: 

the article: 

http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/reviews/tamron_28_75.html 

I'm planning on trying mine with a Kenko 1.5x SHQ when I get some good light. 
I'm not sure you could use the Sigma EX because of the proximity of the rear 
lens element on the Tamron. 

I'm also curious to try the 1.5x TC with the FA 135mm f/2.8, nice 200 f/4?

John 

John Whittingham

Technician

-- Original Message ---
From: Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 22:22:52 -0500
Subject: teleconverters

 I am trying to figure out my kit for my London trip. I think I'm 
 going to go with my Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 Di and a teleconverter. Now 
 I have to figure out which teleconverter to get. BH has 2x 
 teleconverters by the following manufacturers:
 
 Tokina
 Tamron
 Kenko
 Sigma (APO)
 
 The Kenko is the cheapest and the Sigma is the most expensive, but 
 that one doesn't fit all cameras. I would appreciate any advice 
 about which one of these is best optically. I've seen some pretty 
 impressive results from the Tamron but none using the *istD.
 
 Thanks,
 Amtia
--- End of Original Message ---



Re: IMATEST comparison of Pentax Photo Laboratory and Adobe Photoshop CS RAW converter

2005-02-06 Thread Herb Chong
don't replace the files yet. the first TIFF file is causing a crash in 
IMATEST and i need to have Norman look at it to see if there is something he 
can do. i've processed some of the others and will be done in about 15 
minutes, but the results aren't good. your first set of conversion settings 
alter the color considerably and also lose the white patch. it has too 
little contrast compared to the next darker gray patch. the black is also 
nowhere near black. highly compressed dynamic range means more noise and 
less accurate color.

Herb...
- Original Message - 
From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: IMATEST comparison of Pentax Photo Laboratory and Adobe 
Photoshop CS RAW converter


doh.
I sent a followup some hours ago, but it didn't make it back to me, so 
here goes again.



Re: PAW: Farmer John

2005-02-06 Thread brooksdj
 Something a bit new (for me).  I've 
got several like this, and I might
 end up doing a bit of a series over time.  Sort of street portraits,
 if you will.

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3085197
 
 Feel free to comment.
 
 cheers,
 frank

Nice photo Frank.
Even if it is just a tad OOF it works well against the sharp contrast of the 
face and
hat.

How was it lit. Not really a flash look to it.

Dave





Late FS Friday.Oly P400

2005-02-06 Thread brooksdj

Hi Gang.
Sorry this is late. Busy day Friday and the sun was out Saturday for some 
winter shots
that i could
not pass up.vbg
I bought this refurbed Oly P-400 dyesub printer directly from Olympus through 
an ebay
auction.
I printed out the 5 samples sheets that came with it and have not used it in 
close to a
year.
SO says sell if I'm not going to use it.
So i'll throw it out there.
Worked ok for the 5 prints. Driver and manual(?) available. I think i payed 
$250 US for
it. I'll let
it go for $175 plus shipping. Its a bit heavy so shipping may be dear.

No paypal etc. Postal MO cashable in Canada or personal Candian cheque.

Dave





Re: IMATEST comparison of Pentax Photo Laboratory and Adobe Photoshop CS RAW converter

2005-02-06 Thread Jostein
Herb,
I have opened and resaved the files with Photoshop to use compression 
on the TIFs. Maybe that's the issue?
The first set of conversion settings is as flat as can be, and so will 
the second set be. The only difference between them is the supplied 
colour profile from PhaseOne. The colour rendition between them is 
noticeably different on screen, so I expect there is a difference. 
However, I don't think either will score well on dynamic range.

I will do yet another series with manual adjustments, to compliment 
the automatically adjusted.

Jostein
- Original Message - 
From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: IMATEST comparison of Pentax Photo Laboratory and Adobe 
Photoshop CS RAW converter


don't replace the files yet. the first TIFF file is causing a crash 
in IMATEST and i need to have Norman look at it to see if there is 
something he can do. i've processed some of the others and will be 
done in about 15 minutes, but the results aren't good. your first 
set of conversion settings alter the color considerably and also 
lose the white patch. it has too little contrast compared to the 
next darker gray patch. the black is also nowhere near black. highly 
compressed dynamic range means more noise and less accurate color.

Herb...
- Original Message - 
From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: IMATEST comparison of Pentax Photo Laboratory and Adobe 
Photoshop CS RAW converter


doh.
I sent a followup some hours ago, but it didn't make it back to me, 
so here goes again.




Day at the beach.Funny Paw

2005-02-06 Thread brooksdj

  http://www.caughtinmotion.com/paw/beach0367.jpg   

Shot this yesterday.Thought it was a decent picture,plus a bit on the humourous 
side to.

I originally stopped as i wanted to try and shoot the skidoo and icehut being
transported,but was to
slow.

Anyway,enjoy and comments welcome as always

Dave(still fiquring out snow exposures on the D) Brooks 




Re:What setting. Was:flash on *istDs

2005-02-06 Thread brooksdj
Bruce said
  As for using the 280T, try setting the ISO to 400 and then doing a few
 test shots to dial in some minus compensation.  I use the AF400T all
 the time for weddings and end up using about -2 stops compensation.  With 
 that,
 most shots are pretty good in TTL.
 
 -- 
 Best regards,
 Bruce

Bruce.
What setting on the camera . Do you use Manual shutter and F stop or AV or Tv 
etc.
My few test shots lately find Av and -0.5 seem good,but i have not delved into 
it a lot.

Dave




Re: First Robin of Spring

2005-02-06 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul,
Good revision, I like the look of this version much better.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 08:23:48 -0500, Paul Stenquist
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I looked at this shot on my good monitor this morning and quickly
 revised it. It was quite a bit oversaturated. I had originally done the
 conversion on my i-book while watching a movie. Not a good idea :-)
 Paul
 On Feb 5, 2005, at 10:03 PM, Mark Cassino wrote:
 
 
 
  The temperature reached almost 50 degrees F in Michigan today. I went
  shooting on the banks of the Rouge River and was surprised to see a
  few Robins. It seems a bit early for these spring arrivals, but I'm
  not complaining. Maybe they know something we don't. Here's one.
  Again, this is handheld with the *istD, tha A 400/5.6 and the A2XS
  converter. So the fov is equivelant to a 1200 mm lens on a 35mm
  camera. ISO 800, f 5.6 @ 1/1000.
  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3095297size=lg
 
 
 




Re: film is dying(not dead just yet)

2005-02-06 Thread brooksdj
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I decided to take the darkroom class again this winter,
 
 
   
 Then Glenn penned:
 The  demand for the darkroom is so high that they keep it open until 9PM on 
 Saturday and Sunday. 
 
 Glenn
 
Ouch. I wish the schools darkrooms(local high school) would be made open to 
those taking
the
course.Only open on the Wednesday for the class unfortunatley.
Those taking photography at the local CC can use them when ever,but i dont 
believe they
have any
night classes anymore.They used to have a studio class,which i wanted to take 
to learn
about indoor
lighting,but they keep cancelling it.

Dave






Re: PAW: First Robin of Spring

2005-02-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/5/2005 3:21:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The temperature reached almost 50 degrees F in Michigan today. I went 
shooting on the banks of the Rouge River and was surprised to see a few Robins. 
It 
seems a bit early for these spring arrivals, but I'm not complaining. Maybe 
they 
know something we don't. Here's one. Again, this is handheld with the *istD, 
tha A 400/5.6 and the A2XS converter. So the fov is equivelant to a 1200 mm 
lens on a 35mm camera. ISO 800, f 5.6 @ 1/1000.
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3095297size=lg
=
Really nice shot, Paul. He's nicely framed by the branches, isn't he?

I'll skip any steady comment. Said it last time.

Marnie aka Doe :-)



Re: PAW: Ramat Gan Business District from 49th floor (take II)

2005-02-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/4/2005 7:23:46 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 23:40:42 +1000, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 4 Feb 2005 at 7:17, Boris Liberman wrote:
 
  http://webaperture.com/gallery/photos/42431
 
  No comments. Only notice that this was shot at 1600 ISO. I must say
  that 100% magnification of original image looks rather disappointing.
  I should print it and see how it prints.
 
===
I'd like it better under different weather conditions.

Marnie aka Doe 



Re: PAW: First Robin of Spring

2005-02-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Marnie. I just finished reworking it in the RAW converter. I was 
able to reduce the noise a bit and was very conservative on the 
saturation and contrast. I saw another robin while I was out running 
this morning and realized that I was quite a bit over the top in terms 
of the breast coloration.
Paul
On Feb 6, 2005, at 11:27 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In a message dated 2/5/2005 3:21:43 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The temperature reached almost 50 degrees F in Michigan today. I went
shooting on the banks of the Rouge River and was surprised to see a 
few Robins. It
seems a bit early for these spring arrivals, but I'm not complaining. 
Maybe they
know something we don't. Here's one. Again, this is handheld with the 
*istD,
tha A 400/5.6 and the A2XS converter. So the fov is equivelant to a 
1200 mm
lens on a 35mm camera. ISO 800, f 5.6 @ 1/1000.
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3095297size=lg
=
Really nice shot, Paul. He's nicely framed by the branches, isn't he?

I'll skip any steady comment. Said it last time.
Marnie aka Doe :-)



RE: NorCal PDML Outing

2005-02-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Bruce ...

I might be able to make it this year.  Which missions are you talking
about, and where might they be?

This is the first I heard about this.  Just curious as to who decided on
the missions and the date, and when that happened.  Perhaps I missed a
bunch of messages.

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Bruce Dayton 

 This is a notice for anyone in reasonable driving distance to the Bay
 area - We are going to have a PDML photo outing on March 5th.  The
 plan is to meet and shoot at one of the missions in the area.  I've
 got to get that finalized, but the date is solid.  Hopefully any of
 you near San Francisco (I'm in Sacramento) will join us for a fun day.

 Check your calendars and let me know if you might be able to join us.

 -- 
 Best regards,
 Bruce





Re: Eckardt's Corners : Paw

2005-02-06 Thread brooksdj
   Thanks Marnie.

Must have missed this.Sorry for the late responce.

Dave(funky) Brooks  
 ===
 I like it. Funky (drat, no one uses that word any more.) Quaint? Retro? 
 Whatever, you get the idea. Nice composition.
 
 Marnie aka Doe 
 






Re: Day at the beach.Funny Paw

2005-02-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/6/2005 6:34:30 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
http://www.caughtinmotion.com/paw/beach0367.jpg

Shot this yesterday.Thought it was a decent picture,plus a bit on the 
humourous side to.

I originally stopped as i wanted to try and shoot the skidoo and icehut being
transported,but was to
slow.

Anyway,enjoy and comments welcome as always

Dave(still fiquring out snow exposures on the D) Brooks
===
Huh. I may never complain again about any cold we have here in California. At 
least we don't have THAT. 

I think I'd like it better taken at more of an angle. Sign on right, beach 
stretching out on left. Or just closer a bit to the sign, giving it more 
prominence. Or maybe there was a reason you didn't get a bit closer. The white 
sign 
is distracting, and the brown sign doesn't get full impact because of that and 
also it's a tinge hard to read/see. Doesn't pop out. Just my IMHO. Take it 
with a grain of salt.

Meandering off on that tangent, was there ever any reason that people would 
have once sprinkled salt on snow? Seems strange to me I have some vague idea of 
that kicking around in my head. Read it somewhere once or something. Or maybe 
it was salt on birds' tails. Both seem totally weird. Folk tales or another 
senior moment. Who knows?

HTH, Marnie aka Doe :-)



RE: What setting. Was:flash on *istDs

2005-02-06 Thread Jens Bladt
Wierd discoveries:
I've been folling around with my D and some TTL flashes (AF 500FTZ, Metz CT3
and Metz 32 Z-2).

Unlike PZ-1  and MZ-S, when the camera is set to Green Program or P, it
will NOT choose speeds longer than 1/60 sec.
(using FA 1.4/50mm), no matter which dedicated falsh is used (This used to
vary with the falsh used). That's an improvement - I used to hate, when it
choose 1/30 sec. The reason for using MANUAL-mode when ever a flash was on.

In Green Mode the camera will choose fro 1/60 to ?
If the speed is faster than 1/150 sec. the flash simply won't fire.
But here's the funny part: If I point the camera directly into a light
source (light bulb) the camera may chose a bigger aperture (like 2.0) and a
slightly faster speed (like 1/200sec.) If I turn the camera down towards a
darker place - it will choose perhaps 5.6 and 1/100 sec.
Now, that's wierd!!

In P mode it's the same as green mode, except it will not go above (faster)
1/150 sec. (max sync. speed)
(Green mode and P-mode is good for all 'round shooting)

In Tv mode the camera can be set to any speed equal to or slower than 1/150
sec
Tv is good for slow-flash shots - you know; the girl friend in front of
the setting sun, utilizing the long speed for the background, the flash for
freezing the model).

In Av mode the camera will choose from speeds between 1/60 and 1/150secs.
Av is good for when you want to utilize the available light, without risking
too low speeds/motion blur.

I guess I'll start using Av mode now (now I have the lower 1/60 secs.
imit)  - and of cource I must remember to check the flash OK indication
light.

I hope this makes sence for D-users as well as for DS-users.




Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 6. februar 2005 16:37
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: RE: What setting. Was:flash on *istDs


I am a D-user, not DS.
But I belive this goes for both.
I never trust automatic flash programs, since I can't hold speeds longer
than 1/30 sec. still eneough, anyway.
I always shoot on MANUAL, when using a flash. The TTL will still works, when
using PZ-1 or later cameras!!

At long exposures (1/30 or longer) the flash will not freeze movement if
there's much available light present.
I set the speed and aperture accordning to the shooting conditions. I
prefere indirect flash, bounched off the cieling.
And I prefere to utilize as much as the available light as possible.

So, before selection my setting I make a redaing as if there's no falsh.
If it says 1/60 sec. F5.6, I may shoot at 1/60 sec. F8 or prhaps 1/125 F5.6
or F8 - if the subject (people) are moveing around. A small underexposure
(that is as close to the values, I got from measuring the available light)
will utilize as much of the available light as possible, still taking
advantage of the falsh.

Se my test:
No falsh, camera metering:
http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p8921186.html

Clixk next to see the flash fotograph, based on the above shown metering,
or:
http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p8921434.html

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 6. februar 2005 10:43
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re:What setting. Was:flash on *istDs


Bruce said
  As for using the 280T, try setting the ISO to 400 and then doing a few
 test shots to dial in some minus compensation.  I use the AF400T all
 the time for weddings and end up using about -2 stops compensation.  With
that,
 most shots are pretty good in TTL.

 --
 Best regards,
 Bruce

Bruce.
What setting on the camera . Do you use Manual shutter and F stop or AV or
Tv etc.
My few test shots lately find Av and -0.5 seem good,but i have not delved
into it a lot.

Dave






RE: Day at the beach.Funny Paw

2005-02-06 Thread Jens Bladt
Poor life guard!

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 6. februar 2005 17:55
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Day at the beach.Funny Paw


In a message dated 2/6/2005 6:34:30 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
http://www.caughtinmotion.com/paw/beach0367.jpg

Shot this yesterday.Thought it was a decent picture,plus a bit on the
humourous side to.

I originally stopped as i wanted to try and shoot the skidoo and icehut
being
transported,but was to
slow.

Anyway,enjoy and comments welcome as always

Dave(still fiquring out snow exposures on the D) Brooks
===
Huh. I may never complain again about any cold we have here in California.
At
least we don't have THAT.

I think I'd like it better taken at more of an angle. Sign on right, beach
stretching out on left. Or just closer a bit to the sign, giving it more
prominence. Or maybe there was a reason you didn't get a bit closer. The
white sign
is distracting, and the brown sign doesn't get full impact because of that
and
also it's a tinge hard to read/see. Doesn't pop out. Just my IMHO. Take it
with a grain of salt.

Meandering off on that tangent, was there ever any reason that people would
have once sprinkled salt on snow? Seems strange to me I have some vague idea
of
that kicking around in my head. Read it somewhere once or something. Or
maybe
it was salt on birds' tails. Both seem totally weird. Folk tales or another
senior moment. Who knows?

HTH, Marnie aka Doe :-)




Re: NorCal PDML Outing

2005-02-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/6/2005 8:45:25 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi Bruce ...

I might be able to make it this year.  Which missions are you talking
about, and where might they be?

This is the first I heard about this.  Just curious as to who decided on
the missions and the date, and when that happened.  Perhaps I missed a
bunch of messages.

Shel 
===
Bruce and I tend to talk off list about it first. He's the organizer and I 
try to help come up with ideas, etc. I guess you could say we both provide 
some impetus for getting together at all. With Bruce organizing, it seems to go 
well. That's been the previous time and this, anyway. If people want to do it 
differently in the future we can discuss that at the next meet, of course.

But IMHO, this sort of thing always works better if one person takes charge. 
Doesn't have to be the same person every time, naturally. But I ain't 
volunteering and Bruce is willing to.

Marnie aka Doe :-)



Re: NorCal PDML Outing

2005-02-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/6/2005 8:45:25 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi Bruce ...

I might be able to make it this year.  Which missions are you talking
about, and where might they be?

This is the first I heard about this.  Just curious as to who decided on
the missions and the date, and when that happened.  Perhaps I missed a
bunch of messages.

Shel 
===
BTW, Shel, meant to say, it would be great if you can make it.

And I see you addressed this to Bruce, anyway. LOL.

Marnie aka Doe ;-)



Re: IMATEST comparison of Pentax Photo Laboratory and Adobe Photoshop CS RAW converter

2005-02-06 Thread Herb Chong
IMATEST doesn't load the image if it is compressed. i get a crash with an 
error message that i have posted to IMATEST support.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: IMATEST comparison of Pentax Photo Laboratory and Adobe 
Photoshop CS RAW converter


Herb,
I have opened and resaved the files with Photoshop to use compression on 
the TIFs. Maybe that's the issue?
The first set of conversion settings is as flat as can be, and so will the 
second set be. The only difference between them is the supplied colour 
profile from PhaseOne. The colour rendition between them is noticeably 
different on screen, so I expect there is a difference. However, I don't 
think either will score well on dynamic range.

I will do yet another series with manual adjustments, to compliment the 
automatically adjusted.



Re: First Robin of Spring

2005-02-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Bob. It's still a work in progress. I just did a quick dial down 
on the saturation. I'm going to go back to the RAW and start over on my 
good computer. I want to try to get a bit more noise out of it and 
start from scratch on saturation, contrast, and exposure.
On Feb 6, 2005, at 9:51 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Paul,
Good revision, I like the look of this version much better.
Regards,  Bob S.
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 08:23:48 -0500, Paul Stenquist
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I looked at this shot on my good monitor this morning and quickly
revised it. It was quite a bit oversaturated. I had originally done 
the
conversion on my i-book while watching a movie. Not a good idea :-)
Paul
On Feb 5, 2005, at 10:03 PM, Mark Cassino wrote:


The temperature reached almost 50 degrees F in Michigan today. I 
went
shooting on the banks of the Rouge River and was surprised to see a
few Robins. It seems a bit early for these spring arrivals, but I'm
not complaining. Maybe they know something we don't. Here's one.
Again, this is handheld with the *istD, tha A 400/5.6 and the A2XS
converter. So the fov is equivelant to a 1200 mm lens on a 35mm
camera. ISO 800, f 5.6 @ 1/1000.
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3095297size=lg







RE: What setting. Was:flash on *istDs

2005-02-06 Thread Jens Bladt
I am a D-user, not DS.
But I belive this goes for both.
I never trust automatic flash programs, since I can't hold speeds longer
than 1/30 sec. still eneough, anyway.
I always shoot on MANUAL, when using a flash. The TTL will still works, when
using PZ-1 or later cameras!!

At long exposures (1/30 or longer) the flash will not freeze movement if
there's much available light present.
I set the speed and aperture accordning to the shooting conditions. I
prefere indirect flash, bounched off the cieling.
And I prefere to utilize as much as the available light as possible.

So, before selection my setting I make a redaing as if there's no falsh.
If it says 1/60 sec. F5.6, I may shoot at 1/60 sec. F8 or prhaps 1/125 F5.6
or F8 - if the subject (people) are moveing around. A small underexposure
(that is as close to the values, I got from measuring the available light)
will utilize as much of the available light as possible, still taking
advantage of the falsh.

Se my test:
No falsh, camera metering:
http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p8921186.html

Clixk next to see the flash fotograph, based on the above shown metering,
or:
http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p8921434.html

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 6. februar 2005 10:43
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re:What setting. Was:flash on *istDs


Bruce said
  As for using the 280T, try setting the ISO to 400 and then doing a few
 test shots to dial in some minus compensation.  I use the AF400T all
 the time for weddings and end up using about -2 stops compensation.  With
that,
 most shots are pretty good in TTL.

 --
 Best regards,
 Bruce

Bruce.
What setting on the camera . Do you use Manual shutter and F stop or AV or
Tv etc.
My few test shots lately find Av and -0.5 seem good,but i have not delved
into it a lot.

Dave





Re: SMA Pentax 1:3.5/15

2005-02-06 Thread Bob Blakely
This lens came from Sweden. My favorite camera shop guy hunted all over for 
it. This thing is GREAT! It's opened up a whole new way of looking at the 
world for me. I've yet to get several rolls of film shot through it 
developed to see it's actual performance, but the view through the finder is 
great. I'm going to coin a new phrase here - indoor scenics. If you have 
one of these things, you know what I mean.

Regards,
Bob...
From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Very reasonable. Here in the UK, the list price is equivalent to $2,638.
J
On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 14:30:51 -0800, Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just picked up one of these SMA Pentax 1:3.5/15 babies in pristine
condition (not even any evidence that it was ever actually mounted on a
camera), in case for US$890 plus tax which I consider to be an excellent
bargain. I'm off to the pier to make it look 2 miles long. I have a 
granite,
gothic church to shoot interiors of too.



Re: Day at the beach.Funny Paw

2005-02-06 Thread brooksdj
 In a message dated 2/6/2005 6:34:30 
AM Pacific Standard Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 http://www.caughtinmotion.com/paw/beach0367.jpg
Dave(still fiquring out snow exposures on the D) Brooks

Marnie wrote
 ===
 Huh. I may never complain again about any cold we have here in California. At 
 least we don't have THAT. 
 
 I think I'd like it better taken at more of an angle. Sign on right, beach 
 stretching out on left. Or just closer a bit to the sign, giving it more 
 prominence. Or maybe there was a reason you didn't get a bit closer. The 
 white sign 
 is distracting, and the brown sign doesn't get full impact because of that 
 and 
 also it's a tinge hard to read/see. Doesn't pop out. Just my IMHO. Take it 
 with a grain of salt.

Thanks for the comments. 
I only had a few moments to stop and shoot out the window.. The road is very 
narrow and
busy.Maybe
next time if i'm up i'll try and find a parking spot and try different angles.
 
 Meandering off on that tangent, was there ever any reason that people would 
 have once sprinkled salt on snow? Seems strange to me I have some vague idea 
 of 
 that kicking around in my head. Read it somewhere once or something. Or maybe 
 it was salt on birds' tails. Both seem totally weird. Folk tales or another 
 senior moment. Who knows?
 
Salt on snow melts it into lovely slush.LOL
Its used with great flair up here and will destroy a car in a very short time. 
As far as
salt on a
birds tail,makes it taste better.LOL

Dave

 HTH, Marnie aka Doe :-)
   




Fuji RDP Strangeness

2005-02-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Last night I tried scanning what I thought were some color negs, and the
results were awful.  Upon examining the strips carefully I noticed that
there was no orange mask, so I thought that the film may have been slide
film.  Tried scanning as transparency, and the results were just as bad. 
Finally I read the film info in the border and discovered the film to be
Fuji RDP, which is a slide film.  However, all slide film I've ever seen
has black borders, this has clear.  And the colors are strange, with a
subtle and somewhat greenish cast over all.  I also recall getting prints
from this roll.

So, what kind of weirdness is happening.  Maybe the lab processed it as neg
film - cross processing?


Shel 




Re: Fuji RDP Strangeness

2005-02-06 Thread Henri Toivonen
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Last night I tried scanning what I thought were some color negs, and the
results were awful.  Upon examining the strips carefully I noticed that
there was no orange mask, so I thought that the film may have been slide
film.  Tried scanning as transparency, and the results were just as bad. 
Finally I read the film info in the border and discovered the film to be
Fuji RDP, which is a slide film.  However, all slide film I've ever seen
has black borders, this has clear.  And the colors are strange, with a
subtle and somewhat greenish cast over all.  I also recall getting prints
from this roll.

So, what kind of weirdness is happening.  Maybe the lab processed it as neg
film - cross processing?
Shel 
 

This sounds like a case of cross processing, yes.
Scan it as a negative and experiment with the results.
/Henri


Re: Day at the beach.Funny Paw

2005-02-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From:
Subject: Re: Day at the beach.Funny Paw


Meandering off on that tangent, was there ever any reason that 
people would
have once sprinkled salt on snow?
It melts the stuff. In many places, it is common to sprinkle vast 
amounts of salt on the highways to keep them free of ice.
We have a potash mine not far from here, and they are now selling one 
of their tailings materials (potassium chloride, I believe) as both 
an ice melter and as a salt replacement for water softeners.

William Robb 




Re: PESO - Waning Light

2005-02-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
Thanks, Jens.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Sunday, February 6, 2005, 12:14:34 AM, you wrote:

JB Beautiful picture, Bruce. I especially like the subtle colours and shades
JB around the sun.

JB Jens Bladt
JB mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
JB http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


JB -Oprindelig meddelelse-
JB Fra: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
JB Sendt: 6. februar 2005 08:57
JB Til: Paul Stenquist
JB Emne: Re: PESO - Waning Light


JB Glad you liked it.  I was glad that I was able to get to my camera
JB quick enough before the sun was gone.



JB Saturday, February 5, 2005, 5:03:03 AM, you wrote:

PS Beautiful image. Great composition and frame. It's a special moment
PS well seen and well executed. Thanks for sharing it.
PS Paul
PS On Feb 5, 2005, at 2:07 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

 It's been a while since I last posted one.  I've been quite busy with
 work - not too busy to take some pictures, but haven't had time to get
 any posted.

 Today as the sun was setting, I stepped outside my home office and saw
 this sight.  Went right back in and got the camera.

 Taken with *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6 AF (newly acquired), set on a
 stone wall for support.

 The image was converted in C1 and about 10% color saturation added -
 no other changes other than sizing/sharpening for the web.

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_1083.htm


 --
 Best regards,
 Bruce












Re: SMA Pentax 1:3.5/15

2005-02-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Bob Blakely
Subject: Re: SMA Pentax 1:3.5/15


This lens came from Sweden. My favorite camera shop guy hunted all 
over for it. This thing is GREAT! It's opened up a whole new way of 
looking at the world for me. I've yet to get several rolls of film 
shot through it developed to see it's actual performance, but the 
view through the finder is great. I'm going to coin a new phrase 
here - indoor scenics. If you have one of these things, you know 
what I mean.
I bought one so as to have a wide lens on my istD, but now I am 
liking the LX a whole lot more.
It really is a cool lens.

William Robb 




Re: Fuji RDP Strangeness

2005-02-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Fuji RDP Strangeness


Last night I tried scanning what I thought were some color negs, 
and the
results were awful.  Upon examining the strips carefully I noticed 
that
there was no orange mask, so I thought that the film may have been 
slide
film.  Tried scanning as transparency, and the results were just as 
bad.
Finally I read the film info in the border and discovered the film 
to be
Fuji RDP, which is a slide film.  However, all slide film I've ever 
seen
has black borders, this has clear.  And the colors are strange, 
with a
subtle and somewhat greenish cast over all.  I also recall getting 
prints
from this roll.

So, what kind of weirdness is happening.  Maybe the lab processed 
it as neg
film - cross processing?
The flm was processed in C-41 rather than E-6 chemistry.
I've never been able to get good real looking results after making 
this processing error (well, not me, but my lab).
Try scanning as a slide and then invert the image.
After that, you can play with the curves for a while.

William Robb



Re: Day at the beach.Funny Paw

2005-02-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
Yeah, the sign and snow do make for a good chuckle.  Here in
California (Northern) we do have a winter of sorts, but no snow.  So I
couldn't get a shot like that.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Saturday, February 5, 2005, 5:32:24 PM, you wrote:


bcin   http://www.caughtinmotion.com/paw/beach0367.jpg 

bcin Shot this yesterday.Thought it was a decent picture,plus
bcin a bit on the humourous side to.

bcin I originally stopped as i wanted to try and shoot the skidoo and icehut 
being
bcin transported,but was to
bcin slow.

bcin Anyway,enjoy and comments welcome as always

bcin Dave(still fiquring out snow exposures on the D) Brooks   







Re: What setting. Was:flash on *istDs

2005-02-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
Dave,

I use manual settings on the camera - usually around 1/30th and middle
ranges of f-stops.  Weddings are trickier because you have pics with
large amounts of white and pics with large amounts of black.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Saturday, February 5, 2005, 5:42:52 PM, you wrote:

bcin   Bruce said
  As for using the 280T, try setting the ISO to 400 and then doing a few
 test shots to dial in some minus compensation.  I use the AF400T all
 the time for weddings and end up using about -2 stops compensation.  With 
 that,
 most shots are pretty good in TTL.
 
 -- 
 Best regards,
 Bruce

bcin Bruce.
bcin What setting on the camera . Do you use Manual shutter and F stop or AV 
or Tv etc.
bcin My few test shots lately find Av and -0.5 seem good,but i
bcin have not delved into it a lot.

bcin Dave  







Sorta OT: Link to possible photo op's near home

2005-02-06 Thread brooksdj

  http://www.ghosttownpix.com/ontario/index.shtml   

I think i know what my summer vacation is going to be now.vbg

Dave




Re: Day at the beach.Funny Paw

2005-02-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/6/2005 9:32:50 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It melts the stuff. In many places, it is common to sprinkle vast 
amounts of salt on the highways to keep them free of ice.
We have a potash mine not far from here, and they are now selling one 
of their tailings materials (potassium chloride, I believe) as both 
an ice melter and as a salt replacement for water softeners.

William Robb 

Whew. NOT a senior moment. Thanks.

You can tell I've never lived in snow.

Marnie aka Doe :-)



Re: What setting. Was:flash on *istDs

2005-02-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Jens,

Good description of technique.  I use about the same technique.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Sunday, February 6, 2005, 7:36:36 AM, you wrote:

JB I am a D-user, not DS.
JB But I belive this goes for both.
JB I never trust automatic flash programs, since I can't hold speeds longer
JB than 1/30 sec. still eneough, anyway.
JB I always shoot on MANUAL, when using a flash. The TTL will still works, when
JB using PZ-1 or later cameras!!

JB At long exposures (1/30 or longer) the flash will not freeze movement if
JB there's much available light present.
JB I set the speed and aperture accordning to the shooting conditions. I
JB prefere indirect flash, bounched off the cieling.
JB And I prefere to utilize as much as the available light as possible.

JB So, before selection my setting I make a redaing as if there's no falsh.
JB If it says 1/60 sec. F5.6, I may shoot at 1/60 sec. F8 or prhaps 1/125 F5.6
JB or F8 - if the subject (people) are moveing around. A small underexposure
JB (that is as close to the values, I got from measuring the available light)
JB will utilize as much of the available light as possible, still taking
JB advantage of the falsh.

JB Se my test:
JB No falsh, camera metering:
JB http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p8921186.html

JB Clixk next to see the flash fotograph, based on the above shown metering,
JB or:
JB http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p8921434.html

JB Jens Bladt
JB mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
JB http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


JB -Oprindelig meddelelse-
JB Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
JB Sendt: 6. februar 2005 10:43
JB Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
JB Emne: Re:What setting. Was:flash on *istDs


JB Bruce said
  As for using the 280T, try setting the ISO to 400 and then doing a few
 test shots to dial in some minus compensation.  I use the AF400T all
 the time for weddings and end up using about -2 stops compensation.  With
JB that,
 most shots are pretty good in TTL.

 --
 Best regards,
 Bruce

JB Bruce.
JB What setting on the camera . Do you use Manual shutter and F stop or AV or
JB Tv etc.
JB My few test shots lately find Av and -0.5 seem good,but i have not delved
JB into it a lot.

JB Dave








RE: Sensitivity Correcftion (WAS: What setting. Was: Flash on *istDs )

2005-02-06 Thread Jens Bladt
It seems my D chooses 200ASA (if Sensitivity Correction is ON), whenever
there's a charged flash on the camera.
That's nice - and could be expected! Leaving it ON, when shooting with a
flash, could actually kinda save otherwise bad shots, occuring if the
flash (capasitor) is not fully recharged.


Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 6. februar 2005 16:37
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: RE: What setting. Was:flash on *istDs


I am a D-user, not DS.
But I belive this goes for both.
I never trust automatic flash programs, since I can't hold speeds longer
than 1/30 sec. still eneough, anyway.
I always shoot on MANUAL, when using a flash. The TTL will still works, when
using PZ-1 or later cameras!!

At long exposures (1/30 or longer) the flash will not freeze movement if
there's much available light present.
I set the speed and aperture accordning to the shooting conditions. I
prefere indirect flash, bounched off the cieling.
And I prefere to utilize as much as the available light as possible.

So, before selection my setting I make a redaing as if there's no falsh.
If it says 1/60 sec. F5.6, I may shoot at 1/60 sec. F8 or prhaps 1/125 F5.6
or F8 - if the subject (people) are moveing around. A small underexposure
(that is as close to the values, I got from measuring the available light)
will utilize as much of the available light as possible, still taking
advantage of the falsh.

Se my test:
No falsh, camera metering:
http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p8921186.html

Clixk next to see the flash fotograph, based on the above shown metering,
or:
http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p8921434.html

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 6. februar 2005 10:43
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re:What setting. Was:flash on *istDs


Bruce said
  As for using the 280T, try setting the ISO to 400 and then doing a few
 test shots to dial in some minus compensation.  I use the AF400T all
 the time for weddings and end up using about -2 stops compensation.  With
that,
 most shots are pretty good in TTL.

 --
 Best regards,
 Bruce

Bruce.
What setting on the camera . Do you use Manual shutter and F stop or AV or
Tv etc.
My few test shots lately find Av and -0.5 seem good,but i have not delved
into it a lot.

Dave






RE: What setting. Was:flash on *istDs

2005-02-06 Thread Jens Bladt
Thanks, Bruce. I appreciate that.

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 6. februar 2005 18:45
Til: Jens Bladt
Emne: Re: What setting. Was:flash on *istDs


Hello Jens,

Good description of technique.  I use about the same technique.

--
Best regards,
Bruce


Sunday, February 6, 2005, 7:36:36 AM, you wrote:

JB I am a D-user, not DS.
JB But I belive this goes for both.
JB I never trust automatic flash programs, since I can't hold speeds longer
JB than 1/30 sec. still eneough, anyway.
JB I always shoot on MANUAL, when using a flash. The TTL will still works,
when
JB using PZ-1 or later cameras!!

JB At long exposures (1/30 or longer) the flash will not freeze movement
if
JB there's much available light present.
JB I set the speed and aperture accordning to the shooting conditions. I
JB prefere indirect flash, bounched off the cieling.
JB And I prefere to utilize as much as the available light as possible.

JB So, before selection my setting I make a redaing as if there's no falsh.
JB If it says 1/60 sec. F5.6, I may shoot at 1/60 sec. F8 or prhaps 1/125
F5.6
JB or F8 - if the subject (people) are moveing around. A small
underexposure
JB (that is as close to the values, I got from measuring the available
light)
JB will utilize as much of the available light as possible, still taking
JB advantage of the falsh.

JB Se my test:
JB No falsh, camera metering:
JB http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p8921186.html

JB Clixk next to see the flash fotograph, based on the above shown
metering,
JB or:
JB http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p8921434.html

JB Jens Bladt
JB mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
JB http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


JB -Oprindelig meddelelse-
JB Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
JB Sendt: 6. februar 2005 10:43
JB Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
JB Emne: Re:What setting. Was:flash on *istDs


JB Bruce said
  As for using the 280T, try setting the ISO to 400 and then doing a few
 test shots to dial in some minus compensation.  I use the AF400T all
 the time for weddings and end up using about -2 stops compensation.  With
JB that,
 most shots are pretty good in TTL.

 --
 Best regards,
 Bruce

JB Bruce.
JB What setting on the camera . Do you use Manual shutter and F stop or AV
or
JB Tv etc.
JB My few test shots lately find Av and -0.5 seem good,but i have not
delved
JB into it a lot.

JB Dave









Re: NorCal PDML Outing

2005-02-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Shel,

Love to have you come.  You didn't miss any messages.  Since Mark
Dalal moved, I have somehow become the organizer of the event.  So the
date was picked based on my ability to go.  I don't have any other
openings until about June.  As to shooting missions, Marnie and I have
been kicking around different ideas for a while and she brought this
one up.  Seemed like a great idea and a departure from a more
outdoors/nature venue.  I still have to look them up and see what
looks best around the area - I believe there are several to choose
from.  I'll try to check into the missions today and post my findings.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Sunday, February 6, 2005, 8:43:59 AM, you wrote:

SB Hi Bruce ...

SB I might be able to make it this year.  Which missions are you talking
SB about, and where might they be?

SB This is the first I heard about this.  Just curious as to who decided on
SB the missions and the date, and when that happened.  Perhaps I missed a
SB bunch of messages.

SB Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Bruce Dayton 

 This is a notice for anyone in reasonable driving distance to the Bay
 area - We are going to have a PDML photo outing on March 5th.  The
 plan is to meet and shoot at one of the missions in the area.  I've
 got to get that finalized, but the date is solid.  Hopefully any of
 you near San Francisco (I'm in Sacramento) will join us for a fun day.

 Check your calendars and let me know if you might be able to join us.

 -- 
 Best regards,
 Bruce








RE: What setting. Was:flash on *istDs

2005-02-06 Thread brooksdj
And i appreciate the starting points..:-)
Thanks Jens and Bruce.
Dave

 Thanks, Bruce. I appreciate that.
 
 Jens Bladt
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
 
 
 -Oprindelig meddelelse-
 Fra: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sendt: 6. februar 2005 18:45
 Til: Jens Bladt
 Emne: Re: What setting. Was:flash on *istDs
 
 
 Hello Jens,
 
 Good description of technique.  I use about the same technique.
 
 --
 Best regards,
 Bruce
 
 
 Sunday, February 6, 2005, 7:36:36 AM, you wrote:
 
 JB I am a D-user, not DS.
 JB But I belive this goes for both.
 JB I never trust automatic flash programs, since I can't hold speeds longer
 JB than 1/30 sec. still eneough, anyway.
 JB I always shoot on MANUAL, when using a flash. The TTL will still works,
 when
 JB using PZ-1 or later cameras!!
 
 JB At long exposures (1/30 or longer) the flash will not freeze movement
 if
 JB there's much available light present.
 JB I set the speed and aperture accordning to the shooting conditions. I
 JB prefere indirect flash, bounched off the cieling.
 JB And I prefere to utilize as much as the available light as possible.
 
 JB So, before selection my setting I make a redaing as if there's no falsh.
 JB If it says 1/60 sec. F5.6, I may shoot at 1/60 sec. F8 or prhaps 1/125
 F5.6
 JB or F8 - if the subject (people) are moveing around. A small
 underexposure
 JB (that is as close to the values, I got from measuring the available
 light)
 JB will utilize as much of the available light as possible, still taking
 JB advantage of the falsh.
 
 JB Se my test:
 JB No falsh, camera metering:
 JB http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p8921186.html
 
 JB Clixk next to see the flash fotograph, based on the above shown
 metering,
 JB or:
 JB http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p8921434.html
 
 JB Jens Bladt
 JB mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 JB http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
 
 
 JB -Oprindelig meddelelse-
 JB Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 JB Sendt: 6. februar 2005 10:43
 JB Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 JB Emne: Re:What setting. Was:flash on *istDs
 
 
 JB   Bruce said
   As for using the 280T, try setting the ISO to 400 and then doing a few
  test shots to dial in some minus compensation.  I use the AF400T all
  the time for weddings and end up using about -2 stops compensation.  With
 JB that,
  most shots are pretty good in TTL.
 
  --
  Best regards,
  Bruce
 
 JB Bruce.
 JB What setting on the camera . Do you use Manual shutter and F stop or AV
 or
 JB Tv etc.
 JB My few test shots lately find Av and -0.5 seem good,but i have not
 delved
 JB into it a lot.
 
 JB Dave
 
 
 
 
 
 
 






A few PUG Comments

2005-02-06 Thread Eactivist
Bear in mind I am not the best photographer around, only been doing it a few 
years, have a lot more misses than keepers, and still forget to reset the ISO 
and WTB on my DSLR on a regular basis.

Okay, disclaimers out of the way. Here are some PUG shots that jumped out at 
me. (And if I misspell anyone's name, hey, I was writing them down.)

Clocks by Collin Brendemuehl

Maybe it was all the blue, but I gravitated here first. Simple but effective. 
Nice composition.

Blue 

No Title by Dag Thrane

This was my favorite -- went here second. Not totally sure why, speaks to 
something in me -- some emotion. Well, I always go barefoot when I can. Nice 
composition, nice framing, nice detail in the bridge, etc. The texture really 
makes the legs/feet and shoes pop out. 

Blue Hawaii by Fred Widall

Ah. Sigh. I love Hawaii, although, it's been a l-o-n-g time since I've 
been there. This really captures its beauty. Gorgeous sky. Sigh.

Blue Girl by Frank Theriault

Interesting shot. Red and blue. I like the streaky overlay on the girl -- 
makes it a semiabstract portrait and it makes you take a second look.

Lady in Blue by Henk Terhell

This is nicely abstract. High tech fluorescent light (or neon light, not 
sure) with low tech old world Greek/Italian type statue. Also vibrantly blue. 
This 
is what I think blue can be -- deep and bold. And the juxtaposition of tech 
makes it.

Blue Eyes and Blue Frog by Gianfranco Irlanda

Amusing and a good portrait. I don't know why froggies are amusing, but they 
generally are. Nice warm skin tones (in late afternoon, I presume) contrasted 
with blue frog.

Blue Sky Behind the Temple by Thawatchai Kongsaktragool

Interesting buildings and the bold blue sky really sets the white and red 
off. Some slight distortion (I think) from the wide angle but it just 
emphasizes 
the spires. Interesting image (and makes me want to go there).

Diver and Puffer by Dan Matyola

Bit soft and blurry, but I realize this was probably taken through glass and 
in bad lighting. Nice moment to capture and it is really, really blue.

Zurich at Dusk by Rick Womer 

This is just a nice shot. Good composition, nice lights, nice angle on/of 
city. (Also makes we want to go there -- good location shots always make me 
want 
to go there).

Ice Blue Morning by Jens Bladt

Brr. I am unsure whether a filter was used on this or 
not. Bit puzzled how there could be some yellow on the left when the rest is 
blue. But an interesting shot. And brrr.

Well, that's about it. Except to say the blue is really my least favorite 
color. 

Marnie aka Doe   :-)



Re: Day at the beach.Funny Paw

2005-02-06 Thread Frantisek
Eac It melts the stuff. In many places, it is common to sprinkle vast
Eac amounts of salt on the highways to keep them free of ice.
Eac We have a potash mine not far from here, and they are now selling one
Eac of their tailings materials (potassium chloride, I believe) as both
Eac an ice melter and as a salt replacement for water softeners.

Eac William Robb 
Eac 
Eac Whew. NOT a senior moment. Thanks.

Eac You can tell I've never lived in snow.

Hi Marnie, it apparently lowers the temperature snow and ice melts, as
IIRC salt water has lower freezing point. Apart from that, it damages water
reserves, is not much good for the environment and destroys your
leather shoes in no time ;-) That's why I dislike having to be in a
city during the winter with its melting snow slush... Not mentioning
that is looses all the beauty of snow filled streets ;-)

Good light!
   fra



Re: Sorta OT: Link to possible photo op's near home

2005-02-06 Thread Jostein
Bring my greetings to the ghosts if you see'em... :-)
Jostein
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 http://www.ghosttownpix.com/ontario/index.shtml 

I think i know what my summer vacation is going to be now.vbg
Dave 





Re: PESO: After the floods

2005-02-06 Thread Frantisek

Thanks for the comments, it was a surprise find - the original is in
colour, and from the proof prints I did two years ago, I didn't select
it for anything. Now I had to rescan some old things for a portfolio
in one mag (oh lucky me g), and among other flood photos I found
this one, and it struck me to try to convert it into BW. Now I wish I
had photographed it on BW in the first place ;-)

The adjustments from colour: the layers approach I learned here on
the list, two layers one desaturating the other changing hue. I did
one selective hue adjustment though, to tone down the sky which was
blasted out in the first conversion try. Apart from that, some
contrast adjustments and selective burning/dodging. Not much cheating
g I quite like how the conversion went. Guess the CoolScan V isn't
so bad after all ;-)

Good light!
   fra



Re: teleconverters

2005-02-06 Thread Joseph Tainter
I believe that Kenko may also make the Tokina and Tamron teleconverters. 
Kenko and Tokina are (at least in the U.S.) the same company.

Look for a 7-element converter. Still, a 2x may not be very good, 
especially on a zoom. I have an older Tamron 2x 7-element, and have 
never gotten a decent image from it.

The Sigma converters may be best in class (for third-party, AF 
teleconverters), but you must make certain that they will be compatible 
with your Tamron lens. If your Tamron's rear element extends to the rear 
of the lens, then it will not work with the Sigmas.

I suggest considering a 1.4x. One of those will give better results than 
a 2x.

Joe


Re: New LX Owner

2005-02-06 Thread cbwaters
congratulations Nick.  Happy shooting.
CW
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I've just received an LX I won from eBay, and just love the feel of it. 
I've always wanted one since it first came out, but it's always seemed too 
pricey. I nearly blew my term's grant cheque on one at the time, but 
prudence got the better of me.

This one appears to be a new model as shown on Bojidar's site, with the 
new style shutter release, but the film speed only goes up to 1600. The 
meter does come on when the exposure compensation ring release button is 
pressed (could be a problem if it gets pressed in the camera bag as it 
will drain the batteries), but I'm not sure what the description of the 
dot pattern on the first curtain means without some comparison. The serial 
number is 5299XXX. Anyone got an idea of the age of this?

It has some black residue on the mirror surface, but it doesn't seem to 
affect it. It'll be off to Pentax UK for a full service soon.

I thought the automatic mettering wasn't working until I realised the 
reflectance of the pressure plate would be different to that of the 
shutter curtain or the film - duh! It does raise one question though - do 
all films have the same reflectance or have things changed since the 
camera was released so some compensation needs to be applied?

No strap lugs, so I'll have to look out for these. Need to check if the 
AF360FGZ works with it too.

Really looking forward to playing with this.
Nick.


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Re: SMA Pentax 1:3.5/15

2005-02-06 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bob,
I agree about 'indoor scenics'.  
The page below points to some indoor shots I took when trying to sell
my mother-in-law's condo.
 http://members.aol.com/lys93/condo.htm
The angle of view with this lens is extraordinary.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 09:24:24 -0800, Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This lens came from Sweden. My favorite camera shop guy hunted all over for
 it. This thing is GREAT! It's opened up a whole new way of looking at the
 world for me. I've yet to get several rolls of film shot through it
 developed to see it's actual performance, but the view through the finder is
 great. I'm going to coin a new phrase here - indoor scenics. If you have
 one of these things, you know what I mean.
 
 Regards,
 Bob...
 
 From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Very reasonable. Here in the UK, the list price is equivalent to $2,638.
 
  J
  On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 14:30:51 -0800, Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I just picked up one of these SMA Pentax 1:3.5/15 babies in pristine
  condition (not even any evidence that it was ever actually mounted on a
  camera), in case for US$890 plus tax which I consider to be an excellent
  bargain. I'm off to the pier to make it look 2 miles long. I have a
  granite,
  gothic church to shoot interiors of too.
 




Re: teleconverters

2005-02-06 Thread Keith Whaley
On the other hand, I got most excellent performance from a Komura 
Telemore 7-element 2X converter, years ago.
Quite literally couldn't tell between those taken with it, and a blown 
up bare lens print...

keith whaley
Joseph Tainter wrote:
I believe that Kenko may also make the Tokina and Tamron teleconverters. 
Kenko and Tokina are (at least in the U.S.) the same company.

Look for a 7-element converter. Still, a 2x may not be very good, 
especially on a zoom. I have an older Tamron 2x 7-element, and have 
never gotten a decent image from it.

The Sigma converters may be best in class (for third-party, AF 
teleconverters), but you must make certain that they will be compatible 
with your Tamron lens. If your Tamron's rear element extends to the rear 
of the lens, then it will not work with the Sigmas.

I suggest considering a 1.4x. One of those will give better results than 
a 2x.

Joe




Re: SMA Pentax 1:3.5/15

2005-02-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I got some rather nice shots when using your 15mm when we saw the Sue the
Dinosaur exhibit

Shel 


 [Original Message]
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 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Date: 2/6/2005 10:32:45 AM
 Subject: Re: SMA Pentax 1:3.5/15

 Bob,
 I agree about 'indoor scenics'.  
 The page below points to some indoor shots I took when trying to sell
 my mother-in-law's condo.
  http://members.aol.com/lys93/condo.htm
 The angle of view with this lens is extraordinary.
 Regards,  Bob S.




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On 4 Feb 2005 at 7:17, Boris Liberman wrote:
   

http://webaperture.com/gallery/photos/42431
No comments. Only notice that this was shot at 1600 ISO. I must say
that 100% magnification of original image looks rather disappointing.
I should print it and see how it prints.
 

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I'd like it better under different weather conditions.
Marnie aka Doe 

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Thanks Marnie. I just finished reworking it in the RAW converter. I was 
able to reduce the noise a bit and was very conservative on the 
saturation and contrast. I saw another robin while I was out running 
this morning and realized that I was quite a bit over the top in terms 
of the breast coloration.
Paul
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In a message dated 2/5/2005 3:21:43 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The temperature reached almost 50 degrees F in Michigan today. I went
shooting on the banks of the Rouge River and was surprised to see a 
few Robins. It
seems a bit early for these spring arrivals, but I'm not complaining. 
Maybe they
know something we don't. Here's one. Again, this is handheld with the 
*istD,
tha A 400/5.6 and the A2XS converter. So the fov is equivelant to a 
1200 mm
lens on a 35mm camera. ISO 800, f 5.6 @ 1/1000.
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3095297size=lg
=
Really nice shot, Paul. He's nicely framed by the branches, isn't he?

I'll skip any steady comment. Said it last time.
Marnie aka Doe :-)
   

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Hi Bruce ...
I might be able to make it this year.  Which missions are you talking
about, and where might they be?
This is the first I heard about this.  Just curious as to who decided on
the missions and the date, and when that happened.  Perhaps I missed a
bunch of messages.
Shel 

 

[Original Message]
From: Bruce Dayton 
   

 

This is a notice for anyone in reasonable driving distance to the Bay
area - We are going to have a PDML photo outing on March 5th.  The
plan is to meet and shoot at one of the missions in the area.  I've
got to get that finalized, but the date is solid.  Hopefully any of
you near San Francisco (I'm in Sacramento) will join us for a fun day.
Check your calendars and let me know if you might be able to join us.
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Bruce
   

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FA 50 f1.4 est mort. Vive FA 50 f1.4!

2005-02-06 Thread Joseph Tainter
Seen on DPreview:
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Adorama accepted my order for this lens last Friday, but today I got 
this response: We regret to inform you that Pentax has notified us that 
the following item is discontinued and no replacement is available
We are cancelling your order. Please accept our apology for this 
inconvenience.

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Of course the FA 50 f1.7 died a few months ago.
I wonder if it will take Pentax 8 to 10 years to bring out a full series 
of D FA primes. It can't be good for their business if they do. I wonder 
how many of Pentax's 300 RD employees (thanks to Alan Chan for that 
figure) are working on D FA lenses?

Joe


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Re:A few PUG Comments

2005-02-06 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl
Thanks.
At 13:52 2005.02.06 -0500, you wrote:
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 13:08:47 EST
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Bear in mind I am not the best photographer around, only been doing it a few
years, have a lot more misses than keepers, and still forget to reset the ISO
and WTB on my DSLR on a regular basis.
Okay, disclaimers out of the way. Here are some PUG shots that jumped out at
me. (And if I misspell anyone's name, hey, I was writing them down.)
Clocks by Collin Brendemuehl
Maybe it was all the blue, but I gravitated here first. Simple but effective.
Nice composition.
You impress at a distance, but you impact a life up close. The closer the 
relationship the greater the impact.
Howard Hendricks



Re: (n)ever-ready cases--pro and con?

2005-02-06 Thread Mark Erickson
The rucksack application is exactly the one that I'm considering.  I own a
small LowePro case (among too many of other sizes). I'd like something that
takes up less room inside a backpack, I guess

--Mark

Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

i use a LowePro Topload Zoom Case of one model or another for all
of my cameras.

Herb
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I like ERCs. They add protection when out in adverse weather conditions,
and also mean I can chuck the camera in a rucksack with other stuff and it
will be protected.



WTB: Super Takumar 1.4/50mm

2005-02-06 Thread Frantisek
Hi,
   subject says it all. Want To Buy for those uninitiated g

   Nice clean glass one for my Spottie. I prefer the older singlecoated
   Super over the SMC variants, the metal focusing grip is gorgeous.
   I don't mind if the exterior is all scratched up, this will be an
   user.
   I would prefer a seller in the European Union, but shipping from
   the States shouldn't be a problem as well, it's small :-)
   
Good light!
   fra



Re: unsubscibe

2005-02-06 Thread pnstenquist
Ah, such bad luck.
You chose to unsubscribe while including an entire digest in your message. That 
automatically cancels your right to unsubscribe. We call it the Hotel 
California Nuclear Option. You know, You can check in any time you want, but 
you can never leave.





OT: Photo exhibition in OZ

2005-02-06 Thread Derby Chang
David wrote:
To all the Aussie PDML'ers living in Sydney, I just saw a story on
Sunday about Australian photographer Bill Henson. He has a
retrospective exhibition showing at the Art Gallery of NSW until the 3
April. Looks like it might be interesting.
Examples of his work can be found here:
http://www.roslynoxley9.com.au/artists/18/Bill_Henson/profile/
Click on the exhibitions links on the left. The scans a pretty bad,
but they give you an idea of his work.
Dave S
It is an amazing exhibition, IMOH. Nine rooms filled to the brim. The 
French Opera series was outstanding.

Nothing beats looking at silver prints in real life, especially for 
Henson's work. Subtle lighting effects and tones just get lost when 
reprinted on screen, or even on the weighty $85 book that accompanies 
the exhibition. The impact of scale probably has something to do with it 
too.

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Re: WTB: Super Takumar 1.4/50mm

2005-02-06 Thread pnstenquist
You can get the Super Multi Coated Takumar 50/1.4 with the metal focusing 
barrel. Only the very late versions had the rubber covered barrel. The 50/1.4 
is certainly one of the best screw mount lenses ever made. I have one, but I'm 
keeping it :-)
Paul


 Hi,
subject says it all. Want To Buy for those uninitiated g
 
Nice clean glass one for my Spottie. I prefer the older singlecoated
Super over the SMC variants, the metal focusing grip is gorgeous.
I don't mind if the exterior is all scratched up, this will be an
user.
I would prefer a seller in the European Union, but shipping from
the States shouldn't be a problem as well, it's small :-)

 Good light!
fra
 



RE: A few PUG Comments

2005-02-06 Thread Jens Bladt
Marine, no filter (Ice Blue Morning)!
It really was a bluish morning and - well, I kinda gave it a little extra
character in Photoshop :-)

Jens Bladt
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-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: A few PUG Comments


Bear in mind I am not the best photographer around, only been doing it a few
years, have a lot more misses than keepers, and still forget to reset the
ISO
and WTB on my DSLR on a regular basis.

Okay, disclaimers out of the way. Here are some PUG shots that jumped out at
me. (And if I misspell anyone's name, hey, I was writing them down.)

Clocks by Collin Brendemuehl

Maybe it was all the blue, but I gravitated here first. Simple but
effective.
Nice composition.

Blue 

No Title by Dag Thrane

This was my favorite -- went here second. Not totally sure why, speaks to
something in me -- some emotion. Well, I always go barefoot when I can. Nice
composition, nice framing, nice detail in the bridge, etc. The texture
really
makes the legs/feet and shoes pop out.

Blue Hawaii by Fred Widall

Ah. Sigh. I love Hawaii, although, it's been a l-o-n-g time since I've
been there. This really captures its beauty. Gorgeous sky. Sigh.

Blue Girl by Frank Theriault

Interesting shot. Red and blue. I like the streaky overlay on the girl --
makes it a semiabstract portrait and it makes you take a second look.

Lady in Blue by Henk Terhell

This is nicely abstract. High tech fluorescent light (or neon light, not
sure) with low tech old world Greek/Italian type statue. Also vibrantly
blue. This
is what I think blue can be -- deep and bold. And the juxtaposition of tech
makes it.

Blue Eyes and Blue Frog by Gianfranco Irlanda

Amusing and a good portrait. I don't know why froggies are amusing, but they
generally are. Nice warm skin tones (in late afternoon, I presume)
contrasted
with blue frog.

Blue Sky Behind the Temple by Thawatchai Kongsaktragool

Interesting buildings and the bold blue sky really sets the white and red
off. Some slight distortion (I think) from the wide angle but it just
emphasizes
the spires. Interesting image (and makes me want to go there).

Diver and Puffer by Dan Matyola

Bit soft and blurry, but I realize this was probably taken through glass and
in bad lighting. Nice moment to capture and it is really, really blue.

Zurich at Dusk by Rick Womer

This is just a nice shot. Good composition, nice lights, nice angle on/of
city. (Also makes we want to go there -- good location shots always make me
want
to go there).

Ice Blue Morning by Jens Bladt

Brr. I am unsure whether a filter was used on this
or
not. Bit puzzled how there could be some yellow on the left when the rest is
blue. But an interesting shot. And brrr.

Well, that's about it. Except to say the blue is really my least favorite
color.

Marnie aka Doe   :-)




Re: A few PUG Comments

2005-02-06 Thread Fred Widall
Thanks for the kind comments, although as someone else mentioned it does
look a little unsharp on the web page. The original slide is fine so I
must have screwed up somehow when I scanned it.

Fred.
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On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Blue Hawaii by Fred Widall

 Ah. Sigh. I love Hawaii, although, it's been a l-o-n-g time since I've
 been there. This really captures its beauty. Gorgeous sky. Sigh.




Re: Sorta OT: Link to possible photo op's near home

2005-02-06 Thread cbwaters
Jeez Dave,
Judging by the number of towns listed, there just may be more ghosts in 
Ontario than LIVING people...

CW
has been to Ontario on several occasions.  Including a trip though the 
Canadian Mecca (Brantford, home town of The Great One).  Can't remember 
seeing any ghosts either...

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Subject: Sorta OT: Link to possible photo op's near home


 http://www.ghosttownpix.com/ontario/index.shtml
I think i know what my summer vacation is going to be now.vbg
Dave


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RE: Jimi Hendrix photos

2005-02-06 Thread Jens Bladt
...loking at the photographer, saying: 
Hey Joe, What' you gonna do with that gun in your hand?

Jens Bladt
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Has anyone seen this in the flesh? I'm a bit partial to Jimi, but, 
$NZD1400 !!

http://www.hedleysbooks.co.nz/feature4.html

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RE: What setting. Was:flash on *istDs

2005-02-06 Thread Jens Bladt
I wrote:
In P mode it's the same as green mode, except it will not go above (faster)
1/150 sec. (max sync. speed)
(Green mode and P-mode is good for all 'round shooting)

This is actually NOT quite true:
In P-mode Hyper-Program is activated, which means you can chose between
several T/A combinations, with a flash as long as the shutter speed is
within the 1/60sec - 1/150sec interval. You can't do this in Green Mode.
This is actually a VERY nice feature!

Jens Bladt
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Emne: RE: What setting. Was:flash on *istDs


And i appreciate the starting points..:-)
Thanks Jens and Bruce.
Dave

 Thanks, Bruce. I appreciate that.

 Jens Bladt
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 Fra: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sendt: 6. februar 2005 18:45
 Til: Jens Bladt
 Emne: Re: What setting. Was:flash on *istDs


 Hello Jens,

 Good description of technique.  I use about the same technique.

 --
 Best regards,
 Bruce


 Sunday, February 6, 2005, 7:36:36 AM, you wrote:

 JB I am a D-user, not DS.
 JB But I belive this goes for both.
 JB I never trust automatic flash programs, since I can't hold speeds
longer
 JB than 1/30 sec. still eneough, anyway.
 JB I always shoot on MANUAL, when using a flash. The TTL will still
works,
 when
 JB using PZ-1 or later cameras!!

 JB At long exposures (1/30 or longer) the flash will not freeze
movement
 if
 JB there's much available light present.
 JB I set the speed and aperture accordning to the shooting conditions. I
 JB prefere indirect flash, bounched off the cieling.
 JB And I prefere to utilize as much as the available light as possible.

 JB So, before selection my setting I make a redaing as if there's no
falsh.
 JB If it says 1/60 sec. F5.6, I may shoot at 1/60 sec. F8 or prhaps 1/125
 F5.6
 JB or F8 - if the subject (people) are moveing around. A small
 underexposure
 JB (that is as close to the values, I got from measuring the available
 light)
 JB will utilize as much of the available light as possible, still taking
 JB advantage of the falsh.

 JB Se my test:
 JB No falsh, camera metering:
 JB http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p8921186.html

 JB Clixk next to see the flash fotograph, based on the above shown
 metering,
 JB or:
 JB http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p8921434.html

 JB Jens Bladt
 JB mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 JB http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


 JB -Oprindelig meddelelse-
 JB Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 JB Sendt: 6. februar 2005 10:43
 JB Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 JB Emne: Re:What setting. Was:flash on *istDs


 JB   Bruce said
   As for using the 280T, try setting the ISO to 400 and then doing a
few
  test shots to dial in some minus compensation.  I use the AF400T all
  the time for weddings and end up using about -2 stops compensation.
With
 JB that,
  most shots are pretty good in TTL.
 
  --
  Best regards,
  Bruce

 JB Bruce.
 JB What setting on the camera . Do you use Manual shutter and F stop or
AV
 or
 JB Tv etc.
 JB My few test shots lately find Av and -0.5 seem good,but i have not
 delved
 JB into it a lot.

 JB Dave














Re: Jimi Hendrix photos

2005-02-06 Thread Keith Whaley

Jens Bladt wrote:
...loking at the photographer, saying: 
Hey Joe, What' you gonna do with that gun in your hand?  
Followed by, Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
keith whaley
Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Derby Chang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 6. februar 2005 05:00
Til: Pentax Discuss
Emne: Jimi Hendrix photos
Has anyone seen this in the flesh? I'm a bit partial to Jimi, but, 
$NZD1400 !!

http://www.hedleysbooks.co.nz/feature4.html
D



Re: (n)ever-ready cases--pro and con?

2005-02-06 Thread Nick Clark
I do have a Pentax branded case that takes a camera with lens in the same way, 
but I prefer the ERC to be attached to the camera otherwise I end up with too 
many items hanging around my neck.

Nick

-Original Message-
From: Mark Erickson[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06/02/05 19:20:25
To: Pentax-Discusspentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: (n)ever-ready cases--pro and con?

The rucksack application is exactly the one that I'm considering.  I own a
small LowePro case (among too many of other sizes). I'd like something that
takes up less room inside a backpack, I guess

--Mark

Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

i use a LowePro Topload Zoom Case of one model or another for all
of my cameras.

Herb
- Original Message -
From: Nick Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: (n)ever-ready cases--pro and con?


I like ERCs. They add protection when out in adverse weather conditions,
and also mean I can chuck the camera in a rucksack with other stuff and it
will be protected.





Re: Sorta OT: Link to possible photo op's near home

2005-02-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 6:44 AM
Subject: Sorta OT: Link to possible photo op's near home


 http://www.ghosttownpix.com/ontario/index.shtml
I think i know what my summer vacation is going to be now.vbg
Somewhere, I have a ghost town map of southern Saskatchewan. The Red 
Coat Trail has a zillion little unpopulated or ghost towns along it.

William Robb 




Re: Sorta OT: Link to possible photo op's near home

2005-02-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: cbwaters
Subject: Re: Sorta OT: Link to possible photo op's near home


Jeez Dave,
Judging by the number of towns listed, there just may be more 
ghosts in Ontario than LIVING people...

Must not say it..
WW 




Re: unsubscibe

2005-02-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Chris Ellis 
Subject: unsubscibe

Bad luck, my friend.
Sorry, but now you are stuck here.
offending digest snipped
William Robb



Re: PUG's Blue Notes

2005-02-06 Thread Harald Rust
Hi Henk, 
Thanks for the comment and pug review. While I was in
Europe, I picked a couple of nice days to visit 
Kinderdijk. Nice area. I like it there. Have to go
back again sometime. 
Harald
Henk wrote:
Waterland: I like this one much, but being Dutch I am
highly biassed. In some earlier winters I used to
skate there. Composition is perfect.
Harald, statistically you must have stayed quite long
there to encounter such nice weather with little wind.
Let me know when you are there next time.




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Re: February PUG Comments

2005-02-06 Thread Harald Rust
Tom, Thanks for comment and suggestion. 
I have another version with the foreground reeds
cloned out in ps. In retrospect, I regret I didn't
move them over or compose the image without the reeds.
At the time I thought the reeds would give it a more
wind-swept look, and add an element to the foreground.
But I guess they do distract from the windmill
reflection. Lingered there for awhile to capture a
moment of calm water and no tourists. 
It was fun being there. 
Btw a correction on the lens that I used. I used the 
Pentax 28-70 2.8, rather than 80-200mm.
Harald
Tom C wrote:
Waterland by Harald Rust
Nice shot with symmetry and perspective. I find the
plants in the foreground a little distracting. If I
crop into an exact square, removing the bottom it
strikes me as particularly strong.




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Got a good one!

2005-02-06 Thread Powell Hargrave
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=4688item=3870765684;
rd=1

I'm not quite sure which lens the Sigma macro is but the Converter is less
than half price and the lens is free!

Powell



Re: A few PUG Comments

2005-02-06 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Marnie.  The photo was darker (duskier?) on my
screen than it appears on the PUG gallery.  I posted
it using the Mac at home, and I dimly recall a
discussion of different gammas on Macs and PCs making
things like that happen.

BTW, =everybody= has a lot more misses than keepers. 
I've been shooting recreationally for 40 years, and I
figure than when I have fewer misses than keepers I'm
either not shooting enough or not being choosy enough!

Rick

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bear in mind I am not the best photographer around,
 only been doing it a few 
 years, have a lot more misses than keepers, and
 still forget to reset the ISO 
 and WTB on my DSLR on a regular basis.
 
 Okay, disclaimers out of the way. Here are some PUG
 shots that jumped out at 
 me. (And if I misspell anyone's name, hey, I was
 writing them down.)
 
 Clocks by Collin Brendemuehl
 
 Maybe it was all the blue, but I gravitated here
 first. Simple but effective. 
 Nice composition.
 
 Blue 
 
 No Title by Dag Thrane
 
 This was my favorite -- went here second. Not
 totally sure why, speaks to 
 something in me -- some emotion. Well, I always go
 barefoot when I can. Nice 
 composition, nice framing, nice detail in the
 bridge, etc. The texture really 
 makes the legs/feet and shoes pop out. 
 
 Blue Hawaii by Fred Widall
 
 Ah. Sigh. I love Hawaii, although, it's been a
 l-o-n-g time since I've 
 been there. This really captures its beauty.
 Gorgeous sky. Sigh.
 
 Blue Girl by Frank Theriault
 
 Interesting shot. Red and blue. I like the streaky
 overlay on the girl -- 
 makes it a semiabstract portrait and it makes you
 take a second look.
 
 Lady in Blue by Henk Terhell
 
 This is nicely abstract. High tech fluorescent light
 (or neon light, not 
 sure) with low tech old world Greek/Italian type
 statue. Also vibrantly blue. This 
 is what I think blue can be -- deep and bold. And
 the juxtaposition of tech 
 makes it.
 
 Blue Eyes and Blue Frog by Gianfranco Irlanda
 
 Amusing and a good portrait. I don't know why
 froggies are amusing, but they 
 generally are. Nice warm skin tones (in late
 afternoon, I presume) contrasted 
 with blue frog.
 
 Blue Sky Behind the Temple by Thawatchai
 Kongsaktragool
 
 Interesting buildings and the bold blue sky really
 sets the white and red 
 off. Some slight distortion (I think) from the wide
 angle but it just emphasizes 
 the spires. Interesting image (and makes me want to
 go there).
 
 Diver and Puffer by Dan Matyola
 
 Bit soft and blurry, but I realize this was probably
 taken through glass and 
 in bad lighting. Nice moment to capture and it is
 really, really blue.
 
 Zurich at Dusk by Rick Womer 
 
 This is just a nice shot. Good composition, nice
 lights, nice angle on/of 
 city. (Also makes we want to go there -- good
 location shots always make me want 
 to go there).
 
 Ice Blue Morning by Jens Bladt
 
 Brr. I am unsure whether a
 filter was used on this or 
 not. Bit puzzled how there could be some yellow on
 the left when the rest is 
 blue. But an interesting shot. And
 brrr.
 
 Well, that's about it. Except to say the blue is
 really my least favorite 
 color. 
 
 Marnie aka Doe   :-)
 
 




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Re: NorCal PDML Outing

2005-02-06 Thread John Francis
Bruce Dayton mused:
 
 This is a notice for anyone in reasonable driving distance to the Bay
 area - We are going to have a PDML photo outing on March 5th.  The
 plan is to meet and shoot at one of the missions in the area.  I've
 got to get that finalized, but the date is solid.  Hopefully any of
 you near San Francisco (I'm in Sacramento) will join us for a fun day.
 
 Check your calendars and let me know if you might be able to join us.
 
 -- 
 Best regards,
 Bruce


That's a probable Yes from me.

If potential attendees would like to indicate some Pentax gear they
don't own, but would like to play with, it would be a good idea to
let other attendees know.  I know I'd like to spend a little more
time with a DA 16-45, and it might be fun to try the 14mm as well.
Plus, of course, an FA* 85/1.4; so far I've never handled one.

I can bring along some of my older film bodies (MX, Super Program,
PZ-1p), as well as the *ist-D and/or MZ-S I'd be using myself.



Re: [pdml] Discontinuement of Film SLR bodies

2005-02-06 Thread Graywolf
Actually, there has been stuff here on the list off and on about this. 
Apparently in certain countries the distributors have decided to no longer carry 
some or all of Pentax's film slr's. As far as I know that has not happened in 
any country where Pentax owns the distributorship. However, I have no recent (4 
months) infomation about this issue (Quite frankly I don't seem to have the 
energy to keep up with things these days).

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---
David Chang-Sang wrote:
This has been discussed (at least with me) by Aaron (former list member and
one of the original brotherhood members) :D and if there is more than one
person stating this, it may be some sort of confirmation of this being more
than just a rumour.  Aaron had asked me if I had seen or heard about this
rumour on the list but I had seen diddly - apparently though, it appears its
not just one person up here in Canada who has heard this but also your local
camera shop owner down in the states.
Just my 2 cents (which is not worth 2 cents really.. more like.. 0.5 cents)
:)
Cheers
Dave

-Original Message-
From: Michael T. Foulkes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 12:43 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: [pdml] Discontinuement of Film SLR bodies
I was down at the local camera shop the other day and the owner told me
that Pentax was planning on discontinuing all of their film based
SLR's.  She said the information came not from her sales rep but from
another shop owner who is apparently more plugged in to what's going
on.  Anyone else heard about this?
I'm new to the list, but I did check the archives and couldn't find
anything.






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