31/1.8 vs Sigma 35/1.4 art

[Larry Colen]

I do a lot of my photography in really low light. The 2/3 stop between 
f/1.8 and f/1.4 doesn't seem like much, but when you're talking the 
difference between 1/13 and 1/20 Second, it can be a huge difference. 
Similarly, doing night landscapes, the 2/3 stop can be a big deal with 
star motion in the background.


Does anyone have experience with both the 31 limited and the 35 art? I 
can't justify buying the faster lens without selling the 31.  It's been 
a workhorse lens for me, particularly since it was my only fast 
"standard" in APS.


I've heard good things about the sigma, and even if it isn't as sharp in 
some situations, the faster aperture would make an even bigger 
difference in others.


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Re: PESO - An Iconic Place

[Paul in MKE]

The color is very nice, but the b/w is stunning.  Would look great 
printed on a pearl metallic paper.


-p


On 10/18/2016 5:04 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

I was thinking of using this for the November PUG but decided I'd rather
use something local. I always liked the colour version in the late
afternoon light but wondered about a black and white version.

So, here's the black & white version:

http://lyons-ryan.org/PESO/slides/_IGP1804-K5-1-peso.html

The colour one can be viewed using the right hand arrow at the top.

Thoughts?


Cheers

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Re: PESO - An Iconic Place

[David Mann]

Love it but it does look quite dark on my screen, in a bright room with the 
late afternoon sun streaming in through the window.

Cheers,
Dave

> On Oct 19, 2016, at 11:04 AM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> 
> I was thinking of using this for the November PUG but decided I'd rather
> use something local. I always liked the colour version in the late
> afternoon light but wondered about a black and white version.
> 
> So, here's the black & white version:
> 
> http://lyons-ryan.org/PESO/slides/_IGP1804-K5-1-peso.html
> 
> The colour one can be viewed using the right hand arrow at the top.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
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Re: PESO Orb Spider

[Marco Alpert]

Agreed. http://xkcd.com/1747/

m

> On Oct 18, 2016, at 7:51 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> First shot is the excellent. Good looking spider.
> 
> Paul via phone
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2016, at 8:32 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>> Nice level of detail in each image. I think the colors are quite nice and
>>> natural.
>> 
>> Thanks Dan. It looks very much like most of the ones around here do, so 
>> maybe my eyes were fooled by the light or something.
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dan Matyola
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>> 
 On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 8:20 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
 
 We had a particularly pretty orb spider in the front yard. This one
 was a
 lot redder/oranger than most of ours, unfortunately the color doesn't
 really come through, I forgot to shoot a grey card.
 
 Both shots done with available light, K-1 and Tamron 90/2.8 macro
 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30317329341/
 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30286793462/
 
 I had hoped to go back and use a strobe on it, but the web is now gone.
 
 
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Re: PESO Orb Spider

[Paul Stenquist]

First shot is the excellent. Good looking spider.

Paul via phone

> On Oct 18, 2016, at 8:32 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>> Nice level of detail in each image. I think the colors are quite nice and
>> natural.
> 
> Thanks Dan. It looks very much like most of the ones around here do, so maybe 
> my eyes were fooled by the light or something.
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>> 
>>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 8:20 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>> 
>>> We had a particularly pretty orb spider in the front yard. This one
>>> was a
>>> lot redder/oranger than most of ours, unfortunately the color doesn't
>>> really come through, I forgot to shoot a grey card.
>>> 
>>> Both shots done with available light, K-1 and Tamron 90/2.8 macro
>>> 
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30317329341/
>>> 
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30286793462/
>>> 
>>> I had hoped to go back and use a strobe on it, but the web is now gone.
>>> 
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Re: Enablement: Two fine pieces of Pentax glass in 2 weeks

[Mark C]

I have the 1.4x-L and it works great - I mostly use it with the A* 200 
f4 macro, though I originally bought the TC for use with my A* 400 f2.8. 
I did not like the 2x-L so much and sold it - it was sharp but bokeh on 
the 400mm was weird.


The Pz-1p sounds like a nice find - I used mine for a couple weeks this 
summer while my Mz-S was in for repairs. The interface is very similar 
to newer DSLRs - its a great camera.


Mark

On 10/18/2016 9:46 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

I snagged a remarkable piece of Pentax glass (according to reviewers:
http://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/Pentax-Rear-Teleconverter-A-1.4x-L.html
),
the Rear Converter A 1.4X-L with original box and case. This teleconverter
is said to work with these lenses:

- SMC Pentax-DA* 200mm F2.8
- SMC Pentax-FA* 200mm F2.8
- SMC Pentax-A* Macro 200mm F4
- SMC Pentax-A* 300mm F2.8
- SMC Pentax-FA* 300mm F2.8
- SMC Pentax-A* 400mm F2.8
- SMC Pentax-A 400mm F5.6
- SMC Pentax 500mm F4.5
- SMC Pentax-F* 600mm F4
- SMC Pentax-FA* 600mm F4
- SMC Pentax-A* 600mm F5.6
- SMC Pentax 1000mm F8
- SMC Pentax A* 1200mm F8
- SMC Pentax 135-600mm F6.7
- SMC Pentax F* 250-600mm F5.6
- SMC Pentax FA* 250-600mm F5.6
- SMC Pentax 400-600mm F8-12

Sadly, I own none of those lenses. The DA* 200mm f2.8 is still on my "want"
list and would allow me to turn it into a 280mm f4. 300mm f4 is about a
GRAND, so this TC makes a lot of sense for anybody with a lens on the list
above.

The following week, I stumbled upon a Pentax-F 135mm f2.8, which appears to
be fairly rare and people tend to go GA-GA over.
http://pentaxphotogallery.com/photos/gallery/query?camera==820

Also picked up some other stuff with the purchases, including another Pz-1p
body (in original box).

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Re: PESO: My Fox

[Igor PDML-StR]

I haven't seen foxes here, but our diggers are armadillos.
I am too lazy to get outside at wee hours to see them.
And there are might be someone else who keeps re-digging the same hole in 
front of the house. (I've sort of given up on closing it back every time.)
Other large-scale pests in our yard are deers. A block down the road, 
people are actively feeding them, so there is a flock that is almost 
fearless. And they come to chew the roses.


I've finally found a spray ("deers and rabits") that deters the dears.
I am not sure if something like that can also be effective against foxes..

Igor


 Malcolm Smith Tue, 18 Oct 2016 11:49:27 -0700 wrote:

The year before last, we had no end of grief with foxes digging up the 
garden. I bought stuff from a farm shop to repel them - it did the 
opposite. Since then, I've accepted the damage caused, which has reduced, 
and taken it as a photo opportunity. One person a few roads away has them 
at the back door at night, as she has taken to feeding them.  That has not 
gone down well with her neighbours!


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Re: PESO - An Iconic Place

[ann sanfedele]

Bill, I was thinking of writing you and suggesting you use your photo 
for the next pug... I remember it very well - since Brian is using 
somethingelse. DO IT.


Brian and all, I stayed a couple of nights Chez Robb in 2005 and 
remember the gorgeous BW print - yes, quite similar from point of view 
toBrians..


ann


On 10/18/2016 8:11 PM, Bill wrote:

On 10/18/2016 4:04 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

I was thinking of using this for the November PUG but decided I'd rather
use something local. I always liked the colour version in the late
afternoon light but wondered about a black and white version.

So, here's the black & white version:

http://lyons-ryan.org/PESO/slides/_IGP1804-K5-1-peso.html

The colour one can be viewed using the right hand arrow at the top.

Thoughts?


That's hilarious. I've got almost exactly the same picture (mines 
better though), that I shot when we were vacationing in that area some 
30 years ago. My shot is probably a mile or two back on the road.


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Re: PESO Orb Spider

[John]

On 10/18/2016 8:20 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

We had a particularly pretty orb spider in the front yard. This one was
a lot redder/oranger than most of ours, unfortunately the color doesn't
really come through, I forgot to shoot a grey card.

Both shots done with available light, K-1 and Tamron 90/2.8 macro

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30317329341/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30286793462/

I had hoped to go back and use a strobe on it, but the web is now gone.




I'd keep checking back. There's a good chance the spider will build
again in the same place if it was a good spot.


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Re: PESO - The Night Market

[Larry Colen]

Jack Davis wrote:

Ghostly figure at the right makes the image.
Very nice, Malcolm!


I'm going to be the troublesome one and disagree.  I don't like this one 
nearly as much as most of Marco's work, and thing that it could be 
improved a bit by keeping the same aspect ratio and cropping the right 
and top off just to the left of the blurred person.





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Marco Alpert wrote:

http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso22.html

Monochrome works well here, strong image.

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Re: PESO - An Iconic Place

[Larry Colen]

Brian Walters wrote:

I was thinking of using this for the November PUG but decided I'd rather
use something local. I always liked the colour version in the late
afternoon light but wondered about a black and white version.

So, here's the black&  white version:

http://lyons-ryan.org/PESO/slides/_IGP1804-K5-1-peso.html

The colour one can be viewed using the right hand arrow at the top.

Thoughts?


The black and white version is excellent.  The color version is too over 
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Re: PESO Orb Spider

[Larry Colen]

Brian Walters wrote:

On Wed, Oct 19, 2016, at 11:20 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

We had a particularly pretty orb spider in the front yard. This one was
a lot redder/oranger than most of ours, unfortunately the color doesn't
really come through, I forgot to shoot a grey card.

Both shots done with available light, K-1 and Tamron 90/2.8 macro

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30317329341/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30286793462/

I had hoped to go back and use a strobe on it, but the web is now gone.



That's always the way...

Very interesting patterns on it.  I prefer the second image - seems a
bit sharper.  Perhaps a tighter crop to get rid of the objects at lower
left&  right?


Thanks, I had tried that cropping but felt that the spider needed to be 
closer to the top of the frame, at the bottom of the frame it just led 
the eye out of the frame, which is a real shame because the web is so 
much stronger of an image than the bits of the retaining wall.



   Larry




Cheers

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Re: PESO Orb Spider

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On Wed, Oct 19, 2016, at 11:20 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
> We had a particularly pretty orb spider in the front yard. This one was 
> a lot redder/oranger than most of ours, unfortunately the color doesn't 
> really come through, I forgot to shoot a grey card.
> 
> Both shots done with available light, K-1 and Tamron 90/2.8 macro
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30317329341/
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30286793462/
> 
> I had hoped to go back and use a strobe on it, but the web is now gone.


That's always the way...

Very interesting patterns on it.  I prefer the second image - seems a
bit sharper.  Perhaps a tighter crop to get rid of the objects at lower
left & right?


Cheers

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Re: PESO Orb Spider

[Larry Colen]

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Nice level of detail in each image. I think the colors are quite nice and
natural.


Thanks Dan. It looks very much like most of the ones around here do, so 
maybe my eyes were fooled by the light or something.






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On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 8:20 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


We had a particularly pretty orb spider in the front yard. This one
was a
lot redder/oranger than most of ours, unfortunately the color doesn't
really come through, I forgot to shoot a grey card.

Both shots done with available light, K-1 and Tamron 90/2.8 macro

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30317329341/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30286793462/

I had hoped to go back and use a strobe on it, but the web is now gone.


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Re: PESO - An Iconic Place

[Brian Walters]

On Wed, Oct 19, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> I like the BW. The color version feels a bit oversaturated. Great shot!


Yes - my feeling too, even though the colour version has only had a
slight levels adjustment.  The light was wonderful.


Cheers

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> 
> > On Oct 18, 2016, at 8:11 PM, Bill  wrote:
> > 
> >> On 10/18/2016 4:04 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
> >> I was thinking of using this for the November PUG but decided I'd rather
> >> use something local. I always liked the colour version in the late
> >> afternoon light but wondered about a black and white version.
> >> 
> >> So, here's the black & white version:
> >> 
> >> http://lyons-ryan.org/PESO/slides/_IGP1804-K5-1-peso.html
> >> 
> >> The colour one can be viewed using the right hand arrow at the top.
> >> 
> >> Thoughts?
> > 
> > That's hilarious. I've got almost exactly the same picture (mines better 
> > though), that I shot when we were vacationing in that area some 30 years 
> > ago. My shot is probably a mile or two back on the road.
> > 
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Re: PESO Orb Spider

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Nice level of detail in each image.  I think the colors are quite nice and
natural.


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On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 8:20 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:

> We had a particularly pretty orb spider in the front yard. This one was a
> lot redder/oranger than most of ours, unfortunately the color doesn't
> really come through, I forgot to shoot a grey card.
>
> Both shots done with available light, K-1 and Tamron 90/2.8 macro
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30317329341/
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30286793462/
>
> I had hoped to go back and use a strobe on it, but the web is now gone.
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Re: PESO - An Iconic Place

[Brian Walters]

Thanks for looking, Jack & Dan.  Much appreciated.


Cheers

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On Wed, Oct 19, 2016, at 09:39 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
> I was certain I was going to 
> prefer the B, but I wasn't
> prepared for the late afternoon
> light.
> I like the one I'm looking at the
> best. :)
> 
> J
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Oct 18, 2016, at 3:28 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> > 
> > I had lots of choices from that part of the country, but I decided on 
> > something very local for mine - embarrassingly easy in NYC
> > 
> > I love this shot of yours.. and the place. Unusual to see a photo with only 
> > one mitten.  Looks like West Mitten..
> > 
> > The tree is, I believe, a Utah Juniper... looks like tumbleweed
> > 
> > next to it...   oh, I love that place!
> > 
> > ann
> > 
> > 
> >> On 10/18/2016 6:04 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
> >> I was thinking of using this for the November PUG but decided I'd rather
> >> use something local. I always liked the colour version in the late
> >> afternoon light but wondered about a black and white version.
> >> 
> >> So, here's the black & white version:
> >> 
> >> http://lyons-ryan.org/PESO/slides/_IGP1804-K5-1-peso.html
> >> 
> >> The colour one can be viewed using the right hand arrow at the top.
> >> 
> >> Thoughts?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Cheers
> >> 
> >> Brian


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Re: PESO: The Moon in Perigee

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Dan. I replaced the original with a different frame that was exposed at 
a lower ISO and with a bigger ap. Finally had time to sort through the shots. 

Paul via phone

> On Oct 18, 2016, at 5:48 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> Pleasing image and well executed.
> 
> Dan Matyola
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> 
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 10:42 PM, Paul Stenquist 
> wrote:
> 
>> Moon pics are too easily executed to count as good photos, but they’re
>> also a lot of fun. A day late on this one, as the moon is now waning, but
>> we were socked in yesterday. What’s more, I was watching football and was
>> undoubtedly overserved. But we get another chance in November, when the
>> moon will be even a bit closer to earth. K-1 D FA 150-450 plus 1.4X
>> converter, 630 mm, f11, 1/1000th, ISO 800 and at least a stop push in
>> conversion. I have an A 2XS converter as well, and may give that a go next
>> time. Too much glass is just enough.
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Re: PESO - An Iconic Place

[Brian Walters]

On Wed, Oct 19, 2016, at 09:28 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
> I had lots of choices from that part of the country, but I decided on 
> something very local for mine - embarrassingly easy in NYC
> 
> I love this shot of yours.. and the place. Unusual to see a photo with 
> only one mitten.  Looks like West Mitten..
> 
> The tree is, I believe, a Utah Juniper... looks like tumbleweed
> 
> next to it...   oh, I love that place!
> 



Thanks, Ann - I wondered what the tree might be.  

It's a wonderful place.  Sadly we had only a couple of hours in the
evening to enjoy it as we had to head off first thing next morning -
heading for Goosenecks, Mesa Verde and Farmington.  A full day!


Cheers

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> On 10/18/2016 6:04 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
> > I was thinking of using this for the November PUG but decided I'd rather
> > use something local. I always liked the colour version in the late
> > afternoon light but wondered about a black and white version.
> >
> > So, here's the black & white version:
> >
> > http://lyons-ryan.org/PESO/slides/_IGP1804-K5-1-peso.html
> >
> > The colour one can be viewed using the right hand arrow at the top.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Brian



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Re: PESO - An Iconic Place

[Paul Stenquist]

I like the BW. The color version feels a bit oversaturated. Great shot!

Paul via phone

> On Oct 18, 2016, at 8:11 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
>> On 10/18/2016 4:04 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
>> I was thinking of using this for the November PUG but decided I'd rather
>> use something local. I always liked the colour version in the late
>> afternoon light but wondered about a black and white version.
>> 
>> So, here's the black & white version:
>> 
>> http://lyons-ryan.org/PESO/slides/_IGP1804-K5-1-peso.html
>> 
>> The colour one can be viewed using the right hand arrow at the top.
>> 
>> Thoughts?
> 
> That's hilarious. I've got almost exactly the same picture (mines better 
> though), that I shot when we were vacationing in that area some 30 years ago. 
> My shot is probably a mile or two back on the road.
> 
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Re: PESO - An Iconic Place

[Brian Walters]

On Wed, Oct 19, 2016, at 09:16 AM, Marco Alpert wrote:
> Not surprisingly, B for me. Beautiful photo.


Thanks.  I'm sort of leaning the same way.


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> 
> > On Oct 18, 2016, at 3:04 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> > 
> > I was thinking of using this for the November PUG but decided I'd rather
> > use something local. I always liked the colour version in the late
> > afternoon light but wondered about a black and white version.
> > 
> > So, here's the black & white version:
> > 
> > http://lyons-ryan.org/PESO/slides/_IGP1804-K5-1-peso.html
> > 
> > The colour one can be viewed using the right hand arrow at the top.
> > 
> > Thoughts?
> > 
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > Brian
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Re: PESO - An Iconic Place

[Brian Walters]

On Wed, Oct 19, 2016, at 11:11 AM, Bill wrote:
> On 10/18/2016 4:04 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
> > I was thinking of using this for the November PUG but decided I'd rather
> > use something local. I always liked the colour version in the late
> > afternoon light but wondered about a black and white version.
> >
> > So, here's the black & white version:
> >
> > http://lyons-ryan.org/PESO/slides/_IGP1804-K5-1-peso.html
> >
> > The colour one can be viewed using the right hand arrow at the top.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> 
> That's hilarious. I've got almost exactly the same picture (mines better 
> though), that I shot when we were vacationing in that area some 30 years 
> ago. My shot is probably a mile or two back on the road.
> 


Well, of course, you know that the only possible response to that is
"pics or it didn't happen"...



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PESO Orb Spider

[Larry Colen]

We had a particularly pretty orb spider in the front yard. This one was 
a lot redder/oranger than most of ours, unfortunately the color doesn't 
really come through, I forgot to shoot a grey card.


Both shots done with available light, K-1 and Tamron 90/2.8 macro

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30317329341/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30286793462/

I had hoped to go back and use a strobe on it, but the web is now gone.


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Re: PESO - An Iconic Place

[Bill]

On 10/18/2016 4:04 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

I was thinking of using this for the November PUG but decided I'd rather
use something local. I always liked the colour version in the late
afternoon light but wondered about a black and white version.

So, here's the black & white version:

http://lyons-ryan.org/PESO/slides/_IGP1804-K5-1-peso.html

The colour one can be viewed using the right hand arrow at the top.

Thoughts?


That's hilarious. I've got almost exactly the same picture (mines better 
though), that I shot when we were vacationing in that area some 30 years 
ago. My shot is probably a mile or two back on the road.


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Re: the full not for Cotty gallery

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On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> On 18/10/16, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2016-fall-1/album/index.html
>
>
> Holy Mary Mother of God.
>
> 875 for me.
>
> What's with all the shithouses

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Re: PESO - An Iconic Place

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Strong and effective portrayal of an iconic site.


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On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Brian Walters 
wrote:

> I was thinking of using this for the November PUG but decided I'd rather
> use something local. I always liked the colour version in the late
> afternoon light but wondered about a black and white version.
>
> So, here's the black & white version:
>
> http://lyons-ryan.org/PESO/slides/_IGP1804-K5-1-peso.html
>
> The colour one can be viewed using the right hand arrow at the top.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
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Re: PESO - An Iconic Place

[Jack Davis]

I was certain I was going to 
prefer the B, but I wasn't
prepared for the late afternoon
light.
I like the one I'm looking at the
best. :)

J

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> On Oct 18, 2016, at 3:28 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> I had lots of choices from that part of the country, but I decided on 
> something very local for mine - embarrassingly easy in NYC
> 
> I love this shot of yours.. and the place. Unusual to see a photo with only 
> one mitten.  Looks like West Mitten..
> 
> The tree is, I believe, a Utah Juniper... looks like tumbleweed
> 
> next to it...   oh, I love that place!
> 
> ann
> 
> 
>> On 10/18/2016 6:04 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
>> I was thinking of using this for the November PUG but decided I'd rather
>> use something local. I always liked the colour version in the late
>> afternoon light but wondered about a black and white version.
>> 
>> So, here's the black & white version:
>> 
>> http://lyons-ryan.org/PESO/slides/_IGP1804-K5-1-peso.html
>> 
>> The colour one can be viewed using the right hand arrow at the top.
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
>> ++
>> Brian Walters
>> Western Sydney Australia
>> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
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Re: PESO - An Iconic Place

[ann sanfedele]

I had lots of choices from that part of the country, but I decided on 
something very local for mine - embarrassingly easy in NYC


I love this shot of yours.. and the place. Unusual to see a photo with 
only one mitten.  Looks like West Mitten..


The tree is, I believe, a Utah Juniper... looks like tumbleweed

next to it...   oh, I love that place!

ann


On 10/18/2016 6:04 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

I was thinking of using this for the November PUG but decided I'd rather
use something local. I always liked the colour version in the late
afternoon light but wondered about a black and white version.

So, here's the black & white version:

http://lyons-ryan.org/PESO/slides/_IGP1804-K5-1-peso.html

The colour one can be viewed using the right hand arrow at the top.

Thoughts?


Cheers

Brian

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Re: PESO - An Iconic Place

[Marco Alpert]

Not surprisingly, B for me. Beautiful photo.

Marco

> On Oct 18, 2016, at 3:04 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> 
> I was thinking of using this for the November PUG but decided I'd rather
> use something local. I always liked the colour version in the late
> afternoon light but wondered about a black and white version.
> 
> So, here's the black & white version:
> 
> http://lyons-ryan.org/PESO/slides/_IGP1804-K5-1-peso.html
> 
> The colour one can be viewed using the right hand arrow at the top.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
> ++
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Re: the full not for Cotty gallery

[Bob W-PDML]

On 18 Oct 2016, at 22:28, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
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> On 18/10/16, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2016-fall-1/album/index.html
> 
> 
> Holy Mary Mother of God.
> 
> 875 for me.
> 
> What's with all the shithouses

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They're for the bears.

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PESO - An Iconic Place

[Brian Walters]

I was thinking of using this for the November PUG but decided I'd rather
use something local. I always liked the colour version in the late
afternoon light but wondered about a black and white version.

So, here's the black & white version:

http://lyons-ryan.org/PESO/slides/_IGP1804-K5-1-peso.html

The colour one can be viewed using the right hand arrow at the top.

Thoughts?


Cheers

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Re: PESO: The Moon in Perigee

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Pleasing image and well executed.

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On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 10:42 PM, Paul Stenquist 
wrote:

> Moon pics are too easily executed to count as good photos, but they’re
> also a lot of fun. A day late on this one, as the moon is now waning, but
> we were socked in yesterday. What’s more, I was watching football and was
> undoubtedly overserved. But we get another chance in November, when the
> moon will be even a bit closer to earth. K-1 D FA 150-450 plus 1.4X
> converter, 630 mm, f11, 1/1000th, ISO 800 and at least a stop push in
> conversion. I have an A 2XS converter as well, and may give that a go next
> time. Too much glass is just enough.
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Re: PESO - The Night Market

[Jack Davis]

Yeah, was afraid that was the case
after it was sent. 
Thanks, Ann!
Nice one Marco!

J

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> On Oct 18, 2016, at 2:09 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
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> Jack - Marco took the photo  - Malcom gave it a "like" :-)
> 
> ann
> 
> 
>> On 10/18/2016 3:49 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> Ghostly figure at the right makes the image.
>> Very nice, Malcolm!
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> - Original Message -
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>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:33:43 AM
>> Subject: RE: PESO - The Night Market
>> 
>> Marco Alpert wrote:
>> 
>> http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso22.html
>> 
>> Monochrome works well here, strong image.
>> 
>> Malcolm
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Re: OT Mac OS Sierra - break anything photographic?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Hmm. Your experience is nothing like mine. What system are you using? 

For me (and I only use Apple equipment so I have no idea how Android or other 
touch devices respond), the iPad Pro in particular is every bit as responsive 
as any mouse and/or trackpad desktop computer. As a matter of fact, it's 
actually more responsive in many situations with better finger/touch/pointing 
accuracy, etc. It's so good in fact that when I'm working on one of the MacBook 
laptops I often touch the screen to affect something and wonder why it didn't 
respond until I realize that I'm on a different machine/OS, etc. 

I touch an icon and instantly the app is running and waiting for my input, or 
showing me what I wanted to see. If I'm using the soft keyboard, I can type 50 
wpm on it ... the keyboard gives a better tactile feel and gives me more screen 
real estate to work with. BTW, the keyboard cover adds an eighth of an inch to 
the overall thickness of the iPad Pro when closed and about four ounces, that's 
it; the machine remains just as portable. 

If you are experiencing that kind of poor responsiveness with an Apple iPad, 
let me know what model/configuration/iOS version you're using. Also, if you're 
on a model with limited storage and limited free space, be sure you don't have 
a lot of background-active apps and services running, slowing things down. 

G


> On Oct 18, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
> What I find is that touchscreen environments are "fragile". With a
> keyboard and mouse I tell the computer what I want done whereas with a
> touchscreen I plead repeatedly with it to do what I'd like.
> 
> I touch an icon. Nothing happens. I touch it again, it maybe jiggles
> or flashes briefly. Third time it finally launches the app. Great, now
> I want to type a reply in Instagram so I get the virtual keyboard.
> Type a few letters, okay. Try to type a P which is near the edge of
> the screen -- no go. I try twisting my finger in several different
> orientations, on its side, straight down, nothing. Finally I get an
> ell or I accidentally enable the microphone.
> 
> It's always just an exercise in frustration. Getting the wrong action
> is frequent and getting a dangerous action is frequent enough to be
> really annoying. I end up deleting email instead of simply closing it
> or moving it to another folder. The number of times I have made the
> end of my finger sore by angrily stabbing at the screen when some UI
> element refuses to react is uncountable.
> 
> The Apple screens are way better than Android ones for sure, but they
> are all simply annoying and frustrating to use so I always do as
> little as possible on them then move my work to a desktop to get done.
> 
> If I really wanted to use the iPad on the go, I would get a real
> keyboard for it as you suggest. That would help no doubt, at the
> expense of making it somewhat less portable.


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Re: the full not for Cotty gallery

[Steve Cottrell]

On 18/10/16, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

>http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2016-fall-1/album/index.html


Holy Mary Mother of God.

875 for me.

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Re: OT Mac OS Sierra - break anything photographic?

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On 18/10/16, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Cotty's Last Words: 'Bail, dammit! Bail!'

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Re: PESO - The Night Market

[ann sanfedele]

Jack - Marco took the photo  - Malcom gave it a "like" :-)

ann


On 10/18/2016 3:49 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Ghostly figure at the right makes the image.
Very nice, Malcolm!

J

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Marco Alpert wrote:

http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso22.html

Monochrome works well here, strong image.

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Re: Peso - NYC PDML - the evidence

[Marco Alpert]

Tang™.

m

> On Oct 18, 2016, at 12:29 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> I now know that you are beyond the reach of time's cold grasp and have drunk 
> from the source of eternal youth.
> 
> B
> 
>> On 18 Oct 2016, at 19:10, Marco Alpert  wrote:
>> 
>> Wait, everyone thinks I’m ninety?
>> 
>> m
>> 
>>> On Oct 15, 2016, at 11:31 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Nice shot! I always imagined Marco to be of a different generation.
>>> 
>>> B
>>> 
 On 16 Oct 2016, at 03:46, ann sanfedele  wrote:
 
 Hungry Pentaxians about to chow down at Angelina's on Ave A.
 
 https://annsan.smugmug.com/Friends-and-Family/PDMLers-in-person/i-nhv29vq/A
 
 so glad the visitors liked it.
 
 We sat around Chez Ashley for a couple of hours and then Marco decided he 
 should take us to lunch.. whatta guy!
 
 John and Jan brought me flowers and sweets ! How sweet was that?
 
 After lunch Marco went off uptown and I walked Jan and John across Houston 
 to Russ and Daughters - to show them the best place to gather bagels and
 
 Nova... and they went off to the transit Museum, I came home to sleep.
 
 MIght get to see John and Jan again as they will be in the city for a bit 
 - though I'm not up to trapsing around the city these days.
 
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Re: OT Mac OS Sierra - break anything photographic?

[Bruce Walker]

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 3:29 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>> On Oct 18, 2016, at 10:00 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>>
>> (Doing anything creative using a touchscreen is like trying to set a
>> dining table for eight wearing boxing gloves. You might think you are
>> starting to do okay until you get to the wine glasses.)
>
> I have the keyboard cover for the iPad Pro. I'm typing this on it now. It's a 
> very nice keyboard, actually, even the small one on this 9.7 inch model. (I 
> have a 12.3 inch model as well, but I don't carry it around as much.) I've 
> written one and a half books on this iPad and put together presentations, a 
> few slide shows, a few spreadsheets, etc etc. I've also created videos and 
> integrated music, talk-over narration, etc. With a good drawing app and a 
> stylus, I can draw or work the screen to whatever resolution you might want 
> (although I'm a pretty horrible sketch artist according to my sketch artist 
> friends...). So I can't really agree with your analogy of 'wearing boxing 
> gloves' or 'doing anything creative' being difficult. It's pretty easy as a 
> matter of fact.
>
> Well crafted apps and good peripherals enable a lot. I wouldn't discount 
> them. Crappy apps and just a touchscreen aren't entirely adequate for 
> everything; a modern computer without a good mouse or touch pad, a good 
> keyboard, etc, is pretty useless too.


What I find is that touchscreen environments are "fragile". With a
keyboard and mouse I tell the computer what I want done whereas with a
touchscreen I plead repeatedly with it to do what I'd like.

I touch an icon. Nothing happens. I touch it again, it maybe jiggles
or flashes briefly. Third time it finally launches the app. Great, now
I want to type a reply in Instagram so I get the virtual keyboard.
Type a few letters, okay. Try to type a P which is near the edge of
the screen -- no go. I try twisting my finger in several different
orientations, on its side, straight down, nothing. Finally I get an
ell or I accidentally enable the microphone.

It's always just an exercise in frustration. Getting the wrong action
is frequent and getting a dangerous action is frequent enough to be
really annoying. I end up deleting email instead of simply closing it
or moving it to another folder. The number of times I have made the
end of my finger sore by angrily stabbing at the screen when some UI
element refuses to react is uncountable.

The Apple screens are way better than Android ones for sure, but they
are all simply annoying and frustrating to use so I always do as
little as possible on them then move my work to a desktop to get done.

If I really wanted to use the iPad on the go, I would get a real
keyboard for it as you suggest. That would help no doubt, at the
expense of making it somewhat less portable.

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Re: PESO - The Night Market

[Jack Davis]

Ghostly figure at the right makes the image.
Very nice, Malcolm!

J

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Marco Alpert wrote:

http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso22.html

Monochrome works well here, strong image.

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Re: Peso - NYC PDML - the evidence

[P.J. Alling]

He should feel infinitely worse...

On 10/18/2016 3:30 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

He thought you were a millenial... now do you feelbetter? or worse?

ann


On 10/18/2016 2:09 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:

Wait, everyone thinks I’m ninety?

m


On Oct 15, 2016, at 11:31 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

Nice shot! I always imagined Marco to be of a different generation.

B


On 16 Oct 2016, at 03:46, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Hungry Pentaxians about to chow down at Angelina's on Ave A.

https://annsan.smugmug.com/Friends-and-Family/PDMLers-in-person/i-nhv29vq/A 



so glad the visitors liked it.

We sat around Chez Ashley for a couple of hours and then Marco 
decided he should take us to lunch.. whatta guy!


John and Jan brought me flowers and sweets ! How sweet was that?

After lunch Marco went off uptown and I walked Jan and John across 
Houston to Russ and Daughters - to show them the best place to 
gather bagels and


Nova... and they went off to the transit Museum, I came home to sleep.

MIght get to see John and Jan again as they will be in the city for 
a bit - though I'm not up to trapsing around the city these days.


ann


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Enablement fulfilled.

[P.J. Alling]

Just picked up my "new" SMC P F 70-210mm, in KEH.com bargain condition, 
and it's classic KEH bargain.  The only difference I can see between it 
and amywhere else' LN condition is it came without caps.  Focuses and 
zooms smoothly, and I'm going out to test it out on foliage.  Maybe this 
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Re: fall

[ann sanfedele]

Makes me want to be there...

ann


On 10/18/2016 11:57 AM, Marco Alpert wrote:

Lovely!

- Marco


On Oct 18, 2016, at 6:32 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1093814

6 shots from my recent atv trip and fall colour shots. I will do a
gallery but its big. This is for Cotty.:=_

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Re: PESO - The Night Market

[ann sanfedele]

I see you've gotten to the NY shots...

I like the three figures going from sharp, to slightly blurred, to ghost

ann


On 10/18/2016 1:58 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:

http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso22.html

Comments, as always, welcomed.

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Re: Peso - NYC PDML - the evidence

[ann sanfedele]

He thought you were a millenial... now do you feelbetter? or worse?

ann


On 10/18/2016 2:09 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:

Wait, everyone thinks I’m ninety?

m


On Oct 15, 2016, at 11:31 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

Nice shot! I always imagined Marco to be of a different generation.

B


On 16 Oct 2016, at 03:46, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Hungry Pentaxians about to chow down at Angelina's on Ave A.

https://annsan.smugmug.com/Friends-and-Family/PDMLers-in-person/i-nhv29vq/A

so glad the visitors liked it.

We sat around Chez Ashley for a couple of hours and then Marco decided he 
should take us to lunch.. whatta guy!

John and Jan brought me flowers and sweets ! How sweet was that?

After lunch Marco went off uptown and I walked Jan and John across Houston to 
Russ and Daughters - to show them the best place to gather bagels and

Nova... and they went off to the transit Museum, I came home to sleep.

MIght get to see John and Jan again as they will be in the city for a bit - 
though I'm not up to trapsing around the city these days.

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Re: Peso - NYC PDML - the evidence

[Bob W-PDML]

I now know that you are beyond the reach of time's cold grasp and have drunk 
from the source of eternal youth.

B

> On 18 Oct 2016, at 19:10, Marco Alpert  wrote:
> 
> Wait, everyone thinks I’m ninety?
> 
> m
> 
>> On Oct 15, 2016, at 11:31 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>> 
>> Nice shot! I always imagined Marco to be of a different generation.
>> 
>> B
>> 
>>> On 16 Oct 2016, at 03:46, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hungry Pentaxians about to chow down at Angelina's on Ave A.
>>> 
>>> https://annsan.smugmug.com/Friends-and-Family/PDMLers-in-person/i-nhv29vq/A
>>> 
>>> so glad the visitors liked it.
>>> 
>>> We sat around Chez Ashley for a couple of hours and then Marco decided he 
>>> should take us to lunch.. whatta guy!
>>> 
>>> John and Jan brought me flowers and sweets ! How sweet was that?
>>> 
>>> After lunch Marco went off uptown and I walked Jan and John across Houston 
>>> to Russ and Daughters - to show them the best place to gather bagels and
>>> 
>>> Nova... and they went off to the transit Museum, I came home to sleep.
>>> 
>>> MIght get to see John and Jan again as they will be in the city for a bit - 
>>> though I'm not up to trapsing around the city these days.
>>> 
>>> ann
>>> 
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Re: OT Mac OS Sierra - break anything photographic?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

> On Oct 18, 2016, at 10:00 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
> Now _that_ would be worth the upgrade to me. You'd think the marketing
> folks would have emphasized that as a bullet point, but I guess it's
> not sexy enough.

What sells units is features, unfortunately. Runs counter to my intuition and 
logic too. I don't need many features, I like solid incremental improvement on 
a sound feature base.

>> (An iPad Pro is now pretty much my 'standard computer' other than for 
>> photographic and publishing work.)
> 
> I carry my iPad around the house with me for checking email and such,
> so yeah, I get that. But I don't try to do anything creative with it.
> Nothing that requires typing or "mousing".
> 
> (Doing anything creative using a touchscreen is like trying to set a
> dining table for eight wearing boxing gloves. You might think you are
> starting to do okay until you get to the wine glasses.)

I have the keyboard cover for the iPad Pro. I'm typing this on it now. It's a 
very nice keyboard, actually, even the small one on this 9.7 inch model. (I 
have a 12.3 inch model as well, but I don't carry it around as much.) I've 
written one and a half books on this iPad and put together presentations, a few 
slide shows, a few spreadsheets, etc etc. I've also created videos and 
integrated music, talk-over narration, etc. With a good drawing app and a 
stylus, I can draw or work the screen to whatever resolution you might want 
(although I'm a pretty horrible sketch artist according to my sketch artist 
friends...). So I can't really agree with your analogy of 'wearing boxing 
gloves' or 'doing anything creative' being difficult. It's pretty easy as a 
matter of fact.

Well crafted apps and good peripherals enable a lot. I wouldn't discount them. 
Crappy apps and just a touchscreen aren't entirely adequate for everything; a 
modern computer without a good mouse or touch pad, a good keyboard, etc, is 
pretty useless too. 

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Re: the full not for Cotty gallery

[Bulent Celasun]

David,

I believe photography was just the icing on the cake;
being there alone must have been a most pleasant experience itself.

Thanks for the feel.

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2016-10-18 20:44 GMT+03:00 David J Brooks :
> http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2016-fall-1/album/index.html
>
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RE: PESO: My Fox

[Malcolm Smith]

Igor wrote:

Malcolm,
That's a great photo!

My first thought when I saw the message subject was it was not literal.

As far as I heard, in Chinese folklore, a fox is a magic creature that
visits to test a person. If the person does well, the fox rewards one. 
Otherwise the tested person can be punished even with a death.

Thanks. I'd not heard that folklore story before.

The year before last, we had no end of grief with foxes digging up the
garden. I bought stuff from a farm shop to repel them - it did the opposite.
Since then, I've accepted the damage caused, which has reduced, and taken it
as a photo opportunity. One person a few roads away has them at the back
door at night, as she has taken to feeding them.  That has not gone down
well with her neighbours!

Malcolm


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RE: the full not for Cotty gallery

[Malcolm Smith]

David J Brooks wrote:

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2016-fall-1/album/index.html

Great gallery.

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RE: PESO - The Night Market

[Malcolm Smith]

Marco Alpert wrote:

http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso22.html

Monochrome works well here, strong image.

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Re: Peso - NYC PDML - the evidence

[Marco Alpert]

On Oct 15, 2016, at 8:29 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> John and Jan are going to suspect that no matter where they go in the US 
> they'll meet someone from Santa Cruz.

They will.

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Re: Peso - NYC PDML - the evidence

[Marco Alpert]

A wonderful few hours, totally apart from the hearty lunch. Great to meet Ann, 
John, and Jan in person and to discuss the coming apocalypse.

Thanks to Ann (and Ashley) for hosting. Hoping to see John and Jan again at the 
SF meet up in a few weeks.

- Marco

> On Oct 15, 2016, at 7:45 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Hungry Pentaxians about to chow down at Angelina's on Ave A.
> 
> https://annsan.smugmug.com/Friends-and-Family/PDMLers-in-person/i-nhv29vq/A
> 
> so glad the visitors liked it.
> 
> We sat around Chez Ashley for a couple of hours and then Marco decided he 
> should take us to lunch.. whatta guy!
> 
> John and Jan brought me flowers and sweets ! How sweet was that?
> 
> After lunch Marco went off uptown and I walked Jan and John across Houston to 
> Russ and Daughters - to show them the best place to gather bagels and
> 
> Nova... and they went off to the transit Museum, I came home to sleep.
> 
> MIght get to see John and Jan again as they will be in the city for a bit - 
> though I'm not up to trapsing around the city these days.
> 
> ann


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Re: Peso - NYC PDML - the evidence

[Marco Alpert]

Wait, everyone thinks I’m ninety?

m

> On Oct 15, 2016, at 11:31 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> Nice shot! I always imagined Marco to be of a different generation.
> 
> B
> 
>> On 16 Oct 2016, at 03:46, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>> 
>> Hungry Pentaxians about to chow down at Angelina's on Ave A.
>> 
>> https://annsan.smugmug.com/Friends-and-Family/PDMLers-in-person/i-nhv29vq/A
>> 
>> so glad the visitors liked it.
>> 
>> We sat around Chez Ashley for a couple of hours and then Marco decided he 
>> should take us to lunch.. whatta guy!
>> 
>> John and Jan brought me flowers and sweets ! How sweet was that?
>> 
>> After lunch Marco went off uptown and I walked Jan and John across Houston 
>> to Russ and Daughters - to show them the best place to gather bagels and
>> 
>> Nova... and they went off to the transit Museum, I came home to sleep.
>> 
>> MIght get to see John and Jan again as they will be in the city for a bit - 
>> though I'm not up to trapsing around the city these days.
>> 
>> ann
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PESO - The Night Market

[Marco Alpert]

http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso22.html

Comments, as always, welcomed.

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Re: PESO: My Fox

[Igor PDML-StR]

Malcolm,
That's a great photo!

My first thought when I saw the message subject was it was not literal.

As far as I heard, in Chinese folklore, a fox is a magic creature that 
visits to test a person. If the person does well, the fox rewards one. 
Otherwise the tested person can be punished even with a death.


Igor


On Oct 16, 2016, at 12:53 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote:



Used to have him hanging around a lot:  
http://flic.kr/p/McLu18



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Re: OT Mac OS Sierra - break anything photographic?

[Bruce Walker]

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>
> Most of the work in Sierra is actually OS infrastructure that makes it 
> perform better on the same hardware I was running El Capitan on, from what I 
> see and what my use of it shows. That's what makes it worth more to me.

Now _that_ would be worth the upgrade to me. You'd think the marketing
folks would have emphasized that as a bullet point, but I guess it's
not sexy enough.


> (An iPad Pro is now pretty much my 'standard computer' other than for 
> photographic and publishing work.)

I carry my iPad around the house with me for checking email and such,
so yeah, I get that. But I don't try to do anything creative with it.
Nothing that requires typing or "mousing".

(Doing anything creative using a touchscreen is like trying to set a
dining table for eight wearing boxing gloves. You might think you are
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Re: metz 58-af2 with K-1

[Larry Colen]

On October 17, 2016 12:24:51 PM PDT, John  wrote:
>Shoot off an email to their tech support and ask if they're working on
>a
>Mac version of the firmware updater for Pentax K-1.

I did.  They told munge to find someone with a windows computer.

>
>If not, find someone who has a windoze computer you can use for a few
>minutes.

I did, it's upgraded and works.

>
>On 10/16/2016 8:22 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> And, with my luck, they only seem to have firmware for windows up on
>> their site.
>>
>>
>http://www.metz-mecatech.de/en/lighting/firmware-download-flash-units/mecablitz-58-af-2-digital/pentax.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Larry Colen wrote:
>>> My metz flash would not work in p-ttl with the K-1. It turns out
>that it
>>> needs a software upgrade:
>>>
>http://www.metz-mecatech.de/en/lighting/firmware-download-flash-units/mecablitz-58-af-2-digital/pentax.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just so that other people don't find this out in the middle of a
>shoot
>>> like I did.
>>>
>>>
>>

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RE: fall

[Malcolm Smith]

David J Brooks wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1093814

0900 for me.

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Re: OT Mac OS Sierra - break anything photographic?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

> On Oct 18, 2016, at 7:56 AM, Stanley Halpin  
> wrote:
> 
> As long as you don’t sink the boat, it is all good…

Cotty's Last Words: 'Bail, dammit! Bail!'

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Re: OT Mac OS Sierra - break anything photographic?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I'm not "feature driven" either; I hardly use any of that stuff either 
(although I do use the macOS Messages app quite a bit).

Most of the work in Sierra is actually OS infrastructure that makes it perform 
better on the same hardware I was running El Capitan on, from what I see and 
what my use of it shows. That's what makes it worth more to me. Plus the 
continuing, improvements in coordination of macOS with my phone and tablet 
usage. 

(An iPad Pro is now pretty much my 'standard computer' other than for 
photographic and publishing work.) 

G

> On Oct 18, 2016, at 8:46 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for that info, Dave. I was afraid of something like the Java
> installer becoming a problem.
> 
> I've been teetering on the brink of getting CC for a year now, but I
> may continue holding out for a while more. Sierra is the very first
> Mac OS X version that completely disinterests me, and if I simply
> avoid upgrading to it then I can also avoid CC for a while longer.
> 
> Sierra features: I don't need or want Siri. I already talk to my pets
> too much and I'm not about to start talking to my computer as well.
> Besides, I really dislike input devices that include a huge amount of
> randomness like touch screens and voice recognition. Keyboards and
> mice positively do what you direct them to do.
> 
> As I run down the remaining checkbox items on the features list there
> isn't a compelling thing there. Most of the features require either an
> Apple Watch or an iPhone to be useful and I have neither. Many
> features are just iOS influences. iCloud figures large in there --
> don't need it. Photos app? Useless. Messages? Don't use. Float video
> over my desktop while I work? Pxzt! Who thinks that's a good idea?
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 1:31 AM, David Mann  wrote:
>> You're in a similar situation to me as I also have CS5.  I've been holding 
>> off updating to Sierra but I did a search today and found that CS5 is not 
>> officially tested/supported on Sierra.  It seems lots of people are having 
>> trouble with crashes and printing problems.  Some people couldn't even get 
>> it to run as it required a legacy Java dependency which doesn't have an 
>> installer available for Sierra.
>> 
>> I'm currently thinking about going to CC now.  I'm reluctant but I knew it 
>> was inevitable.  Adobe doesn't offer payment in NZD and the AUD exchange 
>> rate is pretty good right now, so I might go for a 12-month subscription.  
>> It does puzzle me that buying 12 months offers no discount over 12x 1-month 
>> payments.
>> 
>> I have no idea about Lightroom but the situation is likely to be similar if 
>> your version is of similar vintage to CS5.  If (when) I get out the credit 
>> card I'll end up with Lightroom as well, which will be fun after all these 
>> years of Bridge.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2016, at 7:41 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dave's workflow dilemma reminded me I wanted to ask you folks if
>>> anyone had experienced or heard of any issues or app breakage caused
>>> by upgrading to Mac OS 10.12 Sierra?
>>> 
>>> I use an older Lightroom, 4.4. Also older Photoshop CS5 (12.0.4).
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
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Re: fall

[Marco Alpert]

Lovely!

- Marco

> On Oct 18, 2016, at 6:32 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1093814
> 
> 6 shots from my recent atv trip and fall colour shots. I will do a
> gallery but its big. This is for Cotty.:=_
> 
> Dave
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Re: OT Mac OS Sierra - break anything photographic?

[Bruce Walker]

Thanks for that info, Dave. I was afraid of something like the Java
installer becoming a problem.

I've been teetering on the brink of getting CC for a year now, but I
may continue holding out for a while more. Sierra is the very first
Mac OS X version that completely disinterests me, and if I simply
avoid upgrading to it then I can also avoid CC for a while longer.

Sierra features: I don't need or want Siri. I already talk to my pets
too much and I'm not about to start talking to my computer as well.
Besides, I really dislike input devices that include a huge amount of
randomness like touch screens and voice recognition. Keyboards and
mice positively do what you direct them to do.

As I run down the remaining checkbox items on the features list there
isn't a compelling thing there. Most of the features require either an
Apple Watch or an iPhone to be useful and I have neither. Many
features are just iOS influences. iCloud figures large in there --
don't need it. Photos app? Useless. Messages? Don't use. Float video
over my desktop while I work? Pxzt! Who thinks that's a good idea?


On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 1:31 AM, David Mann  wrote:
> You're in a similar situation to me as I also have CS5.  I've been holding 
> off updating to Sierra but I did a search today and found that CS5 is not 
> officially tested/supported on Sierra.  It seems lots of people are having 
> trouble with crashes and printing problems.  Some people couldn't even get it 
> to run as it required a legacy Java dependency which doesn't have an 
> installer available for Sierra.
>
> I'm currently thinking about going to CC now.  I'm reluctant but I knew it 
> was inevitable.  Adobe doesn't offer payment in NZD and the AUD exchange rate 
> is pretty good right now, so I might go for a 12-month subscription.  It does 
> puzzle me that buying 12 months offers no discount over 12x 1-month payments.
>
> I have no idea about Lightroom but the situation is likely to be similar if 
> your version is of similar vintage to CS5.  If (when) I get out the credit 
> card I'll end up with Lightroom as well, which will be fun after all these 
> years of Bridge.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
>
>> On Oct 18, 2016, at 7:41 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>>
>> Dave's workflow dilemma reminded me I wanted to ask you folks if
>> anyone had experienced or heard of any issues or app breakage caused
>> by upgrading to Mac OS 10.12 Sierra?
>>
>> I use an older Lightroom, 4.4. Also older Photoshop CS5 (12.0.4).
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
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Re: OT Mac OS Sierra - break anything photographic?

[Bruce Walker]

Dave, I'm running 10.11.6 El Capitan and Lr 4.4 works perfectly on it.
As does Photoshop CS5.


On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 8:01 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> Bruce, i use LR 4.1 with the 4.4 upgrade stored on my computer. Do i
> take it if i upgrade to 4.4 it should be ok using El Captain.??
>
> I know my old PS 8, or CS will not work nor will PSEL 9. My Fetch
> 5.3.1 should and i think the internet says my Word for Mac 2012 will,
> those are the most programs i use to date
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 2:41 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>> Dave's workflow dilemma reminded me I wanted to ask you folks if
>> anyone had experienced or heard of any issues or app breakage caused
>> by upgrading to Mac OS 10.12 Sierra?
>>
>> I use an older Lightroom, 4.4. Also older Photoshop CS5 (12.0.4).
>>
>> Thanks!

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Re: fall

[Jack Davis]

All nice, Dave!
Especially like the content and composition of 882!

J

- Original Message -
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Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 7:36:23 AM
Subject: Re: fall

On 18/10/16, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

>http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1093814
>
>6 shots from my recent atv trip and fall colour shots. I will do a
>gallery but its big. This is for Cotty.:=_

Then I guess I better have a look!

Really amazing colour - 989 and 992 do it for me.

Dying to see a tight shot of the mist on that water...

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Re: OT Mac OS Sierra - break anything photographic?

[Stanley Halpin]

> On Oct 18, 2016, at 10:39 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> I have a 3 sponges, a bucket, a small bowl, two tubs and a pond. All
> sink okay.
> 
> 
> -- 
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> 
> Cheers,
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As long as you don’t sink the boat, it is all good…

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Re: PESO - Colorful

[Steve Cottrell]

On 17/10/16, Igor PDML-StR, discombobulated, unleashed:

>
>
>http://42graphy.org/misc/Colorful_IR34606.jpg
>
>I like the juxtaposition, but I am biased on several levels.
>I am curious if this photo works for others.
>
>All comments and critique are welcome!


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Re: OT Mac OS Sierra - break anything photographic?

[Steve Cottrell]

I have a 3 sponges, a bucket, a small bowl, two tubs and a pond. All
sink okay.


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Re: fall

[Steve Cottrell]

On 18/10/16, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

>http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1093814
>
>6 shots from my recent atv trip and fall colour shots. I will do a
>gallery but its big. This is for Cotty.:=_

Then I guess I better have a look!

Really amazing colour - 989 and 992 do it for me.

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Re: I saw a rocket launch tonight

[Steve Cottrell]

On 17/10/16, John, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Still, Cool beans!

Thanks for sharing John, would love to see something like that. It's a
source of regret that I never got to see a shuttle launch, but in  a few
years I hope to be able to come over to see a launch of something, maybe
even the Mars mission - now that would be cool beans.

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Re: fall

[Bob Sullivan]

Wonderful colors Dave!

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 8:32 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1093814
>
> 6 shots from my recent atv trip and fall colour shots. I will do a
> gallery but its big. This is for Cotty.:=_
>
> Dave
>
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Re: West Coast meetup

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Hallo John! 

Glad to hear you're having a good time in the USA … Ah, pizza in New York is 
always so good. Same for pastrami and Reuben sandwiches.. :-)

Keep me informed on your return to the West. Might be useful to ping me with 
txt or direct email as well a day or two beforehand so I can plan. 
Unfortunately, PDML list tends to be a little cluttered and busy; I haven't had 
time to stay on top of reading it properly. 

I look forward to meeting you in person. :-)

best,
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> On Oct 12, 2016, at 7:02 PM, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>   Jan and I had a really good time with Larry yesterday, talked about
> all sorts as well as a little about photography.  We managed to get a
> few decent snaps, including the obligatory one of the other with
> camera to face! 
> 
>   Looking forward to Saturday - shame Dan can't make it after all. 
> 
>   Looks like we might make another meet in SF at the end of our trip,
> with John Francis, maybe Larry and Godfrey as well? 
> 
> 
> 
>   John in New York (was in San Francisco) 



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Re: OT Mac OS Sierra - break anything photographic?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I have four iOS, one watchOS, and three macOS devices synced at present. No 
problems. 

G

> On Oct 18, 2016, at 4:32 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> I have two OSX and one IOS device synced. OK so far.
> 
> Paul via phone
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2016, at 5:17 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Bruce Walker wrote:
>>> Dave's workflow dilemma reminded me I wanted to ask you folks if
>>> anyone had experienced or heard of any issues or app breakage caused
>>> by upgrading to Mac OS 10.12 Sierra?
>>> 
>>> I use an older Lightroom, 4.4. Also older Photoshop CS5 (12.0.4).
>> 
>> I'm running El Cap and LR 6.7.
>> 
>> I have heard of people having problems syncing multiple devices. I don't 
>> remember if that is multiple OSX and one IOS, or multiple IOS and one OSX.


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Enablement: Two fine pieces of Pentax glass in 2 weeks

[Darren Addy]

I snagged a remarkable piece of Pentax glass (according to reviewers:
http://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/Pentax-Rear-Teleconverter-A-1.4x-L.html
),
the Rear Converter A 1.4X-L with original box and case. This teleconverter
is said to work with these lenses:

- SMC Pentax-DA* 200mm F2.8
- SMC Pentax-FA* 200mm F2.8
- SMC Pentax-A* Macro 200mm F4
- SMC Pentax-A* 300mm F2.8
- SMC Pentax-FA* 300mm F2.8
- SMC Pentax-A* 400mm F2.8
- SMC Pentax-A 400mm F5.6
- SMC Pentax 500mm F4.5
- SMC Pentax-F* 600mm F4
- SMC Pentax-FA* 600mm F4
- SMC Pentax-A* 600mm F5.6
- SMC Pentax 1000mm F8
- SMC Pentax A* 1200mm F8
- SMC Pentax 135-600mm F6.7
- SMC Pentax F* 250-600mm F5.6
- SMC Pentax FA* 250-600mm F5.6
- SMC Pentax 400-600mm F8-12

Sadly, I own none of those lenses. The DA* 200mm f2.8 is still on my "want"
list and would allow me to turn it into a 280mm f4. 300mm f4 is about a
GRAND, so this TC makes a lot of sense for anybody with a lens on the list
above.

The following week, I stumbled upon a Pentax-F 135mm f2.8, which appears to
be fairly rare and people tend to go GA-GA over.
http://pentaxphotogallery.com/photos/gallery/query?camera==820

Also picked up some other stuff with the purchases, including another Pz-1p
body (in original box).

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Re: PESO: The Moon in Perigee

[John]

On 10/17/2016 10:42 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Moon pics are too easily executed to count as good photos, but
they’re also a lot of fun. A day late on this one, as the moon is now
waning, but we were socked in yesterday. What’s more, I was watching
football and was undoubtedly overserved. But we get another chance in
November, when the moon will be even a bit closer to earth. K-1 D FA
150-450 plus 1.4X converter, 630 mm, f11, 1/1000th, ISO 800 and at
least a stop push in conversion. I have an A 2XS converter as well,
and may give that a go next time. Too much glass is just enough.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18300923=lg



I think a little bit past full gives a better photograph anyway. Adds a
little bit of texture that's often missing from a full moon photo.


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fall

[David J Brooks]

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1093814

6 shots from my recent atv trip and fall colour shots. I will do a
gallery but its big. This is for Cotty.:=_

Dave

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Re: OT Mac OS Sierra - break anything photographic?

[David J Brooks]

Bruce, i use LR 4.1 with the 4.4 upgrade stored on my computer. Do i
take it if i upgrade to 4.4 it should be ok using El Captain.??

I know my old PS 8, or CS will not work nor will PSEL 9. My Fetch
5.3.1 should and i think the internet says my Word for Mac 2012 will,
those are the most programs i use to date

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 2:41 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> Dave's workflow dilemma reminded me I wanted to ask you folks if
> anyone had experienced or heard of any issues or app breakage caused
> by upgrading to Mac OS 10.12 Sierra?
>
> I use an older Lightroom, 4.4. Also older Photoshop CS5 (12.0.4).
>
> Thanks!
>
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Re: OT Mac OS Sierra - break anything photographic?

[Paul Stenquist]

I have two OSX and one IOS device synced. OK so far.

Paul via phone

> On Oct 18, 2016, at 5:17 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Bruce Walker wrote:
>> Dave's workflow dilemma reminded me I wanted to ask you folks if
>> anyone had experienced or heard of any issues or app breakage caused
>> by upgrading to Mac OS 10.12 Sierra?
>> 
>> I use an older Lightroom, 4.4. Also older Photoshop CS5 (12.0.4).
> 
> I'm running El Cap and LR 6.7.
> 
> I have heard of people having problems syncing multiple devices. I don't 
> remember if that is multiple OSX and one IOS, or multiple IOS and one OSX.
> 
> 
>> 
>> Thanks!
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Re: OT Mac OS Sierra - break anything photographic?

[Larry Colen]

Bruce Walker wrote:

Dave's workflow dilemma reminded me I wanted to ask you folks if
anyone had experienced or heard of any issues or app breakage caused
by upgrading to Mac OS 10.12 Sierra?

I use an older Lightroom, 4.4. Also older Photoshop CS5 (12.0.4).


I'm running El Cap and LR 6.7.

I have heard of people having problems syncing multiple devices. I don't 
remember if that is multiple OSX and one IOS, or multiple IOS and one OSX.





Thanks!



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RE: PESO: The Moon in Perigee

[Malcolm Smith]

Paul Stenquist wrote:

Moon pics are too easily executed to count as good photos, but they’re also a 
lot of fun. A day late on this one, as the moon is now waning, but we were 
socked in yesterday. What’s more, I was watching football and was undoubtedly 
overserved. But we get another chance in November, when the moon will be even a 
bit closer to earth. K-1 D FA 150-450 plus 1.4X converter, 630 mm, f11, 
1/1000th, ISO 800 and at least a stop push in conversion. I have an A 2XS 
converter as well, and may give that a go next time. Too much glass is just 
enough

I like Moon pictures and it's an excuse to get a big mirror lens out. A couple 
of my friends have taken Moon pictures recently and applied filters or 
otherwise modified them in Lightroom. Whilst they look unusual, they don't look 
right. The Moon looks good as it is. Nice image right here.

Malcolm


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RE: PESO -- Tis the season.

[Malcolm Smith]

P.J. Alling wrote:

https://pdml.updog.co/webster26/PESO%20--%20tistheseason.html

That is indeed different.

Malcolm


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