Re: [RBW] Re: RBW 20th Anniversary Gathering and Entmoot -- SF Bay edition
Jim - count me in. I'll likely be there all three nights. I'll be driving the SEA - PDX - SFO ferry pickup. I have 2 riders (Smitty and Hugh) south, but could probably fit a 4th. Only 1 other (Smitty) returning north at this point, so if anyone else needs a ride, let me know. Brian Hanson Seattle, WA On Monday, June 2, 2014 8:19:10 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote: As mentioned above, I've reserved a 40-person group site at China Camp for 2 nights, July 12 13th. And because it's RBW's backyard, I've reserved a 30-person group site on Mt Diablo for Monday, July 14th. I assume there will be some drop off of attendees, or even some informal camping in the backcountry for Monday. Master wheelbuilder Rich Lesnik has confirmed his attendance, as has RBW all around nice guy Vince Nivolo. More announcements of RBW folk will be forthcoming. For planning purposes, now would be a good time to let me know if you're really going to attend. The poll didn't exceed 40, but if we have many more than that, we should get another campsite or two. I have some volunteers already, but if you want to volunteer for something (leading a ride, cooking, shuttling, moonshine distilling), let me know that too. cheers jim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Chain Woes
I have never had good luck with Sram chains and have found their master links to be particularly problematic. Some years ago I switched to Wipperman 908 chains and have always gotten good shifting, long life and reliability from them. Their master links are a different design and are reliable and much easier to install and remove. They cost a bit more (not nearly as much as RBW charges) but are well worth it. If you are taking the bike to a trustworthy mechanic he will inspect the cassette and rings for signs of premature wear. Good luck. Michael On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 12:07:30 AM UTC-4, Jim wrote: Toodling along riding home from work and suddenly the pedals lock up tight, won't turn. I investigated and found that the master chain link (SRAM 9 speed) had a couple problems. The main problem is that the head of the rivet that the master link connects to had apparently worn away, so the opposite chain plate had come loose. Here is a picture of the rivet and the chain link https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=2E3787D08E17FC9B!33994 In addition, the link plate on the outboard side was bent, here's a picture of that: https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=2E3787D08E17FC9B!33988 With the help of a good Samaritan named Chris, and the chain tool that I carried, but had never bothered to learn how to use,the rivet was pressed back in well enough to get me home. So tomorrow the chain goes to the bike store for a once over and a new master link. However, I'm wondering if there is anything else in the drivetrain I should be looking for as a problem. One thing for sure, I think I need to clean the chain more often than I have been, it was quite dirty. I've been riding a reasonable amount of dirt and gravel, so I suppose its not a surprise. But could that cause a wear problem like that? Or are there other potential culprits? Thanks, Jim in Boulder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Chain Woes
you can find new SRAM chains for as little as $13, and a spare master link is a very light spare to haul along. If you wear through a master link, your chain was probably stretched enough to affect shifting and sprocket/chainring wear. On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 11:22:53 PM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote: Jim: Chains are cheap. I would definitely consider buying a new one. Have you put a chain checker on it to see if it's overly worn? If the master link was this far gone, chances are the rest of the chain is going to have problems as well. –Eric N Sent from my iPhone 5S On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:07 PM, Jim james...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Toodling along riding home from work and suddenly the pedals lock up tight, won't turn. I investigated and found that the master chain link (SRAM 9 speed) had a couple problems. The main problem is that the head of the rivet that the master link connects to had apparently worn away, so the opposite chain plate had come loose. Here is a picture of the rivet and the chain link https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=2E3787D08E17FC9B!33994 In addition, the link plate on the outboard side was bent, here's a picture of that: https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=2E3787D08E17FC9B!33988 With the help of a good Samaritan named Chris, and the chain tool that I carried, but had never bothered to learn how to use,the rivet was pressed back in well enough to get me home. So tomorrow the chain goes to the bike store for a once over and a new master link. However, I'm wondering if there is anything else in the drivetrain I should be looking for as a problem. One thing for sure, I think I need to clean the chain more often than I have been, it was quite dirty. I've been riding a reasonable amount of dirt and gravel, so I suppose its not a surprise. But could that cause a wear problem like that? Or are there other potential culprits? Thanks, Jim in Boulder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Quick question on the Cheviot
It's a bit early for Riv to answer via email and this bike is on my mind. Just wondering if anybody knows the wheel size for a 55cm Cheviot? I'm seriously thinking this will be my next riv...set up like a mountain bike with albas. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Chain Woes
That sounds like a good plan, certainly easy enough to replace with the master link. Still, it sure seems premature. I really don't have that many miles on the bicycle, I use it almost exclusively for commuting, which is a15 mile round trip. I estimate somewhere around 1000 miles on the thing. I have the chain with me, will be stopping at the LBS to let them have a look this evening. Jim in Boulder On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 6:34:34 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: you can find new SRAM chains for as little as $13, and a spare master link is a very light spare to haul along. If you wear through a master link, your chain was probably stretched enough to affect shifting and sprocket/chainring wear. On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 11:22:53 PM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote: Jim: Chains are cheap. I would definitely consider buying a new one. Have you put a chain checker on it to see if it's overly worn? If the master link was this far gone, chances are the rest of the chain is going to have problems as well. –Eric N Sent from my iPhone 5S On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:07 PM, Jim james...@gmail.com wrote: Toodling along riding home from work and suddenly the pedals lock up tight, won't turn. I investigated and found that the master chain link (SRAM 9 speed) had a couple problems. The main problem is that the head of the rivet that the master link connects to had apparently worn away, so the opposite chain plate had come loose. Here is a picture of the rivet and the chain link https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=2E3787D08E17FC9B!33994 In addition, the link plate on the outboard side was bent, here's a picture of that: https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=2E3787D08E17FC9B!33988 With the help of a good Samaritan named Chris, and the chain tool that I carried, but had never bothered to learn how to use,the rivet was pressed back in well enough to get me home. So tomorrow the chain goes to the bike store for a once over and a new master link. However, I'm wondering if there is anything else in the drivetrain I should be looking for as a problem. One thing for sure, I think I need to clean the chain more often than I have been, it was quite dirty. I've been riding a reasonable amount of dirt and gravel, so I suppose its not a surprise. But could that cause a wear problem like that? Or are there other potential culprits? Thanks, Jim in Boulder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Quick question on the Cheviot
It's a 650b for the 55cm On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 7:02:42 AM UTC-7, RJM wrote: It's a bit early for Riv to answer via email and this bike is on my mind. Just wondering if anybody knows the wheel size for a 55cm Cheviot? I'm seriously thinking this will be my next riv...set up like a mountain bike with albas. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: I raced my Riv.
Here are links to pictures of the race: You do not need a facebook account to view these pics. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.664251316961829.1073741948.357965467590417type=1 http://adventuremonkey.com/blog/dirty-kanza-200-2014-edition https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-JlyB_Hn0W2E/U40w_8fY_OI/ACk/U43mvfA3SuQ/s1600/DK_1225-%28ZF-0500-46390-1-001%29.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: My 71 cm AHH
You bet! http://1drv.ms/TdhxFK I've since sold the platrack and front bag to a list member. http://1drv.ms/TdhLN9 http://1drv.ms/1pRdMAz I'm thinking about trying Boscos or Albastaches with it, as the reach with noodles is a bit long, even for my long torso. I like the look of yours. Just curious, what is your PBH? (mine is 100 even) Jim in Boulder On Monday, June 2, 2014 10:17:46 PM UTC-6, Joe K. wrote: Jim- Do you have any pics of your Homer with the Noodles? Would love to see it! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: RIV The Oregon Outback
My 42 mm Compass Babyshoe Pass Extralight tires were great on 85% of the gravel sections. There were a number of places where the gravel was very sandy and soft, where everybody seemed to have trouble. Wider tires would have been useful there. On the other hand, 30% of the ride was on paved roads, where any knobbies would slow you down considerably. It's no coincidence that the two fastest finishers were on road tires (38 and 42 mm wide). My current hypothesis is that wider high-performance road tires (if they were in fact available) would be ideal for this event, but considering the currently available options, I'd choose the same tires again if I was going for a fast time. Jan Heine Compass Bicycles Ltd. www.compasscycle.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 8:46:17 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote: Jan said after the ride that he would have preferred something fatter than 42 mm for the dirt sections. I think a low profile knobby in like 52-56 mm wide would be ideal. Schwalbe makes some super plush XC racing tires like the Thunder Burt that would be great for this ride. I know of a few people who used these and were very pleased with the performance on this ride. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 8:58:52 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: Here are pictures of some of the bikes that did the organized Oregon Outback. https://www.facebook.com/jamesnathanjones/media_set?set=a.10203614505580588.1073741833.1154446016type=1 What tires were you thinking of using for the route? The 1.9 smooth Schwalbes I have on my Atlantis seem like a tiny bit of underbiking, and the 3 tires on my Krampus seem like overbiking. Jan Heine did the route, very fast, on smooth 42mm Compass Babyshoe Pass tires on his randonneur bike. I'd be happier with more rubber and disc brakes than on a randonneur bike, I'm pretty sure. On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 8:44 AM, velomann velo...@gmail.com wrote: When are you going? I'm considering for later June myself but don't want to go it alone. Mike On Monday, June 2, 2014 9:09:55 PM UTC-7, Antonioni Vicente wrote: Any Rivsters out there ever ridden this route? Tons of stuff on Velodirt.com but as usual- seeking the Riv School's input. An Atlantis and a '93 XO-3 soon to tackle it... Thanks y'all. -ant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: My 71 cm AHH
Jim, You may want to try the Albastaches first if your are not sure which way to go between them and the Boscos for the sole reason that to try the boscos requires a stem and brake lever change but the Albastaches will use your noodle's stem and levers. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 8:36:54 AM UTC-6, Jim wrote: You bet! http://1drv.ms/TdhxFK I've since sold the platrack and front bag to a list member. http://1drv.ms/TdhLN9 http://1drv.ms/1pRdMAz I'm thinking about trying Boscos or Albastaches with it, as the reach with noodles is a bit long, even for my long torso. I like the look of yours. Just curious, what is your PBH? (mine is 100 even) Jim in Boulder On Monday, June 2, 2014 10:17:46 PM UTC-6, Joe K. wrote: Jim- Do you have any pics of your Homer with the Noodles? Would love to see it! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Gravel in New York State?
+1 on the Gunks... Carriage trails in Minnewaska State Park are exceptional... The emerald green Minnewaska lake is breathtaking. Some of the best scenery on the East Coast, especially this time of year (when the Mt Laurel are in bloom) and again in the Fall (with spectacular foliage). The ride out to Awosting Lake from Minnewaska is a must... Pack your lunch, bring a bathing suit, camera, binoculars, etc... a fantastic day awaits you. BB On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 9:51:42 AM UTC-4, Anton Tutter wrote: Jason, Have you read the blog ridingthecatskills.com? I'm one of three co-authors. Focus is on mapping and reporting on gravel/dirt routes. The other two authors report on the area around New Paltz and the Shawangunks, and I report on the northwestern end of the Catskills, near Delhi. The Gunks are obviously closer to you (you can take the train up to Poughkeepsie, ride the Gunks, and be back in NYC by evening). My area is about a 3 hour drive from NYC. Highly recommended! My routes are typically about 40% dirt on century old carriage roads, and entirely devoid of highways. Anton PS-- here's a typical pic from one of my rides: https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7373/9231962686_9e2831c38a_b.jpg On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 9:20:52 AM UTC-4, jandrews_nyc wrote: After reading Tony McG's post about the Almonzo, I'm curious if anyone knows of any good gravel courses in New York? Not looking for a race at this point, but just to get out there and ride... Does anyone have experience with this upstate or not too far from NYC? thank you Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Gravel in New York State?
Agreed, the shawangunk trail is a great ride and picnic day. Good times and great scenery. On Jun 4, 2014 11:01 AM, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: +1 on the Gunks... Carriage trails in Minnewaska State Park are exceptional... The emerald green Minnewaska lake is breathtaking. Some of the best scenery on the East Coast, especially this time of year (when the Mt Laurel are in bloom) and again in the Fall (with spectacular foliage). The ride out to Awosting Lake from Minnewaska is a must... Pack your lunch, bring a bathing suit, camera, binoculars, etc... a fantastic day awaits you. BB On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 9:51:42 AM UTC-4, Anton Tutter wrote: Jason, Have you read the blog ridingthecatskills.com? I'm one of three co-authors. Focus is on mapping and reporting on gravel/dirt routes. The other two authors report on the area around New Paltz and the Shawangunks, and I report on the northwestern end of the Catskills, near Delhi. The Gunks are obviously closer to you (you can take the train up to Poughkeepsie, ride the Gunks, and be back in NYC by evening). My area is about a 3 hour drive from NYC. Highly recommended! My routes are typically about 40% dirt on century old carriage roads, and entirely devoid of highways. Anton PS-- here's a typical pic from one of my rides: https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7373/9231962686_9e2831c38a_b.jpg On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 9:20:52 AM UTC-4, jandrews_nyc wrote: After reading Tony McG's post about the Almonzo, I'm curious if anyone knows of any good gravel courses in New York? Not looking for a race at this point, but just to get out there and ride... Does anyone have experience with this upstate or not too far from NYC? thank you Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: fs: 650b tires - Schwalbe Marathon + Conti Tour Ride (CHICAGO PICKUP AVAILABLE)
Plus I'll throw in some new tubes!!! Maybe 3 but at least 2. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Quick question on the Cheviot
Thanks, Another quick question.do y'all think this bike will make a good mountain bike? The stuff I am thinking of riding through is what is called the canal loop, which is situated in land between the lakes in western Kentucky. The trail is singletrack with some technical stuff and a lot of up and down. The whole area is full of nice singletrack and wider dirt trails and I would like a bike to ride on that. I thought about the hunqapillar, but I think the mixte frame will allow greater standover...plus I love the look of it. On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 9:19:32 AM UTC-5, Bruce Smitham wrote: It's a 650b for the 55cm On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 7:02:42 AM UTC-7, RJM wrote: It's a bit early for Riv to answer via email and this bike is on my mind. Just wondering if anybody knows the wheel size for a 55cm Cheviot? I'm seriously thinking this will be my next riv...set up like a mountain bike with albas. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Quick question on the Cheviot
If you will do technical bikepacking, a mixte may flex more than you want, but for what you described the Cheviot would be wonderful! With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 10:33:52 AM UTC-6, RJM wrote: Thanks, Another quick question.do y'all think this bike will make a good mountain bike? The stuff I am thinking of riding through is what is called the canal loop, which is situated in land between the lakes in western Kentucky. The trail is singletrack with some technical stuff and a lot of up and down. The whole area is full of nice singletrack and wider dirt trails and I would like a bike to ride on that. I thought about the hunqapillar, but I think the mixte frame will allow greater standover...plus I love the look of it. On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 9:19:32 AM UTC-5, Bruce Smitham wrote: It's a 650b for the 55cm On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 7:02:42 AM UTC-7, RJM wrote: It's a bit early for Riv to answer via email and this bike is on my mind. Just wondering if anybody knows the wheel size for a 55cm Cheviot? I'm seriously thinking this will be my next riv...set up like a mountain bike with albas. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Updated Legolas - Barlow Pass tires
Mr. Legolas gets a facelift. This was formely a 1x9 CX bike with CX tires, not that much fun on the pavement. The bike now has a Sugino 26/40 wide range double, and Jan's new Barlow Pass tires. Cannot wait to see how this rides: https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/14159529478/ Ride report after the weekend. Max B Sonoma County -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Praise to panaracer
I just want to take a minute to appreciate all of the amazing small batch tires that Panaracer produces. It is a different business model than large volume runs of their own design. It may be that Grant - with the Speedblends - opened up the doors to a modern era of custom small batch usa distributed goodies. Jason SF, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Updated Legolas - Barlow Pass tires
That is one good looking bike! I love the color. I hope you enjoy the Barlow's as much as I do! With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 11:18:29 AM UTC-6, reynoldslugs wrote: Mr. Legolas gets a facelift. This was formely a 1x9 CX bike with CX tires, not that much fun on the pavement. The bike now has a Sugino 26/40 wide range double, and Jan's new Barlow Pass tires. Cannot wait to see how this rides: https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/14159529478/ Ride report after the weekend. Max B Sonoma County -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Praise to panaracer
Do you think they may be doing Jan's tires that everyone's raving about? Have to say, I'm a big fan of their Paselas...still using them on all 4 of my bikes On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 12:19:06 PM UTC-5, Jason Leach wrote: I just want to take a minute to appreciate all of the amazing small batch tires that Panaracer produces. It is a different business model than large volume runs of their own design. It may be that Grant - with the Speedblends - opened up the doors to a modern era of custom small batch usa distributed goodies. Jason SF, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Updated Legolas - Barlow Pass tires
Great looking bike. I'm curious about the stemis it a lugged threadless stem? On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 12:18:29 PM UTC-5, reynoldslugs wrote: Mr. Legolas gets a facelift. This was formely a 1x9 CX bike with CX tires, not that much fun on the pavement. The bike now has a Sugino 26/40 wide range double, and Jan's new Barlow Pass tires. Cannot wait to see how this rides: https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/14159529478/ Ride report after the weekend. Max B Sonoma County -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Updated Legolas - Barlow Pass tires
, RJM wrote: Great looking bike. thank you. I'm curious about the stemis it a lugged threadless stem? yes, that's a Nitto lugged threadles stem. Max -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTB: your old beat-up components
Good choice! Personally, I believe that my working bikes (1993 X0-1 and 1973-74 era PX-10 ) deserve decent parts and I'm not a bit apologetic about using them. For one thing, you can never have enough Nitto:) These bikes also have finer frames than their cosmetics would suggest and I've always believed in good frames + good wheels + decent parts Those Suntour Superbe/Cylone parts cane with your Sequoia and I'd ride the bike and enjoy the parts it was specced with. Regards...Ryan in Winnipeg On Monday, June 2, 2014 1:25:24 AM UTC-5, Christopher Miller Rosales wrote: Hey all! Thank you for those who got in touch. I've decided to do very minor adjustments to the bike to make it fit my riding better, but to keep most of the original component group. The Suntour is too beautiful not to use! -Chris On Thursday, May 29, 2014 11:54:51 AM UTC-7, Christopher Miller Rosales wrote: Hey All! I picked up a beautiful 1985 Specialized Sequoia with pristine Suntour Superbe/Cyclone components. The bike is an absolute joy to ride and I'm making it my every day bike, but I feel guilty using these super high polish parts on a commuter. I've decided to box most of the original components and put on a more utilitarian group. Please let me know if you have any of the following in your parts box! Quill stem 120 - 130mm, 25.4 Crankset - single or double road, matching front derailleur Nitto Albatross or similar upright bar Short Pull Levers Thumb shifters - friction/7/8 speed Commuter wheelset, 700c 130mm cassette I'm looking for quality, but ugly components - like old beat-up XT. Thank you all for the help on building my new bike, message me if you have anything. I can't wait to make this my budget commuter Rivendell! Will post pics when done. Best, Chris Berkeley, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Praise to panaracer
On 06/04/2014 01:28 PM, Ryan wrote: Do you think they may be doing Jan's tires that everyone's raving about? We know Panaracer are doing them. Have to say, I'm a big fan of their Paselas...still using them on all 4 of my bikes On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 12:19:06 PM UTC-5, Jason Leach wrote: I just want to take a minute to appreciate all of the amazing small batch tires that Panaracer produces. It is a different business model than large volume runs of their own design. It may be that Grant - with the Speedblends - opened up the doors to a modern era of custom small batch usa distributed goodies. Jason SF, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Praise to panaracer
Yes, but do you THINK so? :) On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 06/04/2014 01:28 PM, Ryan wrote: Do you think they may be doing Jan's tires that everyone's raving about? We know Panaracer are doing them. Have to say, I'm a big fan of their Paselas...still using them on all 4 of my bikes On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 12:19:06 PM UTC-5, Jason Leach wrote: I just want to take a minute to appreciate all of the amazing small batch tires that Panaracer produces. It is a different business model than large volume runs of their own design. It may be that Grant - with the Speedblends - opened up the doors to a modern era of custom small batch usa distributed goodies. Jason SF, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Headset spacer substitute bell mount
...I quite fancy those, myself. Elegant and thrifty packaging tooI like the tin and cloth drawstring bag..which can be repurposed for something else. On Saturday, May 31, 2014 10:30:51 AM UTC-5, Ely Ruth Rodriguez wrote: I for one, would love one of these guys from england! It's been on my christmas list for two years now, this year i've tried extra hard to be good, fingers crossed. http://www.lionbellworks.co.uk/ On Friday, May 30, 2014 7:15:59 AM UTC-7, bertin753 wrote: Does anyone have one of either of these he/she would sell cheap or trade for? For the Ram, to clear up bar space near the stem. Thanks. [image: Inline image 1] [image: Inline image 2] -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* *Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Praise to panaracer
[Pink Panther music...] Pedant. Pedant. Pedant, pedant, pedant, pedant, pedaaant. [Fade out Pink Panther music] Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 11:45:09 AM UTC-6, Christopher Chen wrote: Yes, but do you THINK so? :) On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.com javascript: wrote: On 06/04/2014 01:28 PM, Ryan wrote: Do you think they may be doing Jan's tires that everyone's raving about? We know Panaracer are doing them. Have to say, I'm a big fan of their Paselas...still using them on all 4 of my bikes On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 12:19:06 PM UTC-5, Jason Leach wrote: I just want to take a minute to appreciate all of the amazing small batch tires that Panaracer produces. It is a different business model than large volume runs of their own design. It may be that Grant - with the Speedblends - opened up the doors to a modern era of custom small batch usa distributed goodies. Jason SF, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Praise to panaracer
Ryan- Yes, they make Grand Bois (Jan's Hetre et fils), Compass (Jan's new line), Rivendell, Soma, Pacenti, and Panaracer tires. They're all made to different specifications from the designers, and it's cool that Panasonic allows for such customization. Ever since Schwinn got them to make the Voyageurs in the early 70s (and probably earlier on the home market), Panasonic has been crafting quality bicycles and bike products under contract, in addition to their own lines. Tim On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Ryan ryter...@mts.net wrote: Do you think they may be doing Jan's tires that everyone's raving about? Have to say, I'm a big fan of their Paselas...still using them on all 4 of my bikes On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 12:19:06 PM UTC-5, Jason Leach wrote: I just want to take a minute to appreciate all of the amazing small batch tires that Panaracer produces. It is a different business model than large volume runs of their own design. It may be that Grant - with the Speedblends - opened up the doors to a modern era of custom small batch usa distributed goodies. Jason SF, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Praise to panaracer
On 06/04/2014 01:45 PM, Chris Chen wrote: Yes, but do you THINK so? :) I'm sorry, I don't understand your comment. Jan has made it very clear that Panaracer produces both the Grand Bois and the Compass tires. So I both think so and know so. What is there about this that is confusing? Or are you setting up a springboard into a discussion of epistemology? On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com mailto:palin...@his.com wrote: On 06/04/2014 01:28 PM, Ryan wrote: Do you think they may be doing Jan's tires that everyone's raving about? We know Panaracer are doing them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Chain Woes
I have had a master link fail on me ONCE, and that was probably because I had taken it apart a few times too many (SS coupled bike dismantled a few times). For some folks, 1000 miles is as long as a chain will last. One of my riding buddies gets maybe 2000 miles on his chains; I get close to 4000 miles. I use SRAM or KMC chains, whichever are available. KMC is a smoking deal. The KMC master links can be bought in bulk; I keep a couple in my bike bag. I have also saved someone's ride when their chain broke. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Praise to panaracer
I only asked because , on a quick perusal of Jan's site regarding his latest series of tires, it seemed to me that if he said they were made in Japan, but if he mentioned National Tire Co or Panaracer, I didn't catch it. Was just a question...I wasn't trying to start off a round of sniping On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 12:54:18 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 06/04/2014 01:45 PM, Chris Chen wrote: Yes, but do you THINK so? :) I'm sorry, I don't understand your comment. Jan has made it very clear that Panaracer produces both the Grand Bois and the Compass tires. So I both think so and know so. What is there about this that is confusing? Or are you setting up a springboard into a discussion of epistemology? On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.com javascript: wrote: On 06/04/2014 01:28 PM, Ryan wrote: Do you think they may be doing Jan's tires that everyone's raving about? We know Panaracer are doing them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTB: your old beat-up components
Back in 2007, I bought a Bleriot frame, had SS couplers installed, and built it up. My gruppo is the shiny silver Shimano compatible set. It looked very nice and shiny, and was meant to be my rando bike. My then-commuter/rando bike, a Sekai 2400, died a horrible death just before I built up the Bleriot. So Bleriot became my commute bike as well. Riding buddy: you are going to commute on your RIVENDELL? Me: it is a bike. get over it. 13000 miles later, one wreck (new tubes! new paint!), still going strong, and it gets ridden everywhere. And, yes, it does stick out a bit among all the commuter/beater bikes. I don't care. Message: enjoy your bike as is! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Chain Woes
On 06/04/2014 01:57 PM, Lynne Fitz wrote: I have had a master link fail on me ONCE, and that was probably because I had taken it apart a few times too many (SS coupled bike dismantled a few times). Oh, I doubt that very much. I take my master links apart in order to clean and relube my chains at roughly 100 mile intervals, and my chains last typically at least 5,000 miles, often more, and I've never had a master link fail. I use SRAM chains, mostly 9 speed. For some folks, 1000 miles is as long as a chain will last. One of my riding buddies gets maybe 2000 miles on his chains; I get close to 4000 miles. I use SRAM or KMC chains, whichever are available. KMC is a smoking deal. The KMC master links can be bought in bulk; I keep a couple in my bike bag. I have also saved someone's ride when their chain broke. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Praise to panaracer
I THINK he was just kidding around. That's what the :) means. KJ On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 1:54:18 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 06/04/2014 01:45 PM, Chris Chen wrote: Yes, but do you THINK so? :) I'm sorry, I don't understand your comment. Jan has made it very clear that Panaracer produces both the Grand Bois and the Compass tires. So I both think so and know so. What is there about this that is confusing? Or are you setting up a springboard into a discussion of epistemology? On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.com javascript: wrote: On 06/04/2014 01:28 PM, Ryan wrote: Do you think they may be doing Jan's tires that everyone's raving about? We know Panaracer are doing them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Praise to panaracer
I believe (think) Chris and I were joking, not sniping. Grin. Hence the grinning and smilies. I apologize if mine came across as anything more than bad humor. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 11:58:50 AM UTC-6, Ryan wrote: I only asked because , on a quick perusal of Jan's site regarding his latest series of tires, it seemed to me that if he said they were made in Japan, but if he mentioned National Tire Co or Panaracer, I didn't catch it. Was just a question...I wasn't trying to start off a round of sniping On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 12:54:18 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 06/04/2014 01:45 PM, Chris Chen wrote: Yes, but do you THINK so? :) I'm sorry, I don't understand your comment. Jan has made it very clear that Panaracer produces both the Grand Bois and the Compass tires. So I both think so and know so. What is there about this that is confusing? Or are you setting up a springboard into a discussion of epistemology? On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.com wrote: On 06/04/2014 01:28 PM, Ryan wrote: Do you think they may be doing Jan's tires that everyone's raving about? We know Panaracer are doing them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Praise to panaracer
Just a little supple humour On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: I believe (think) Chris and I were joking, not sniping. Grin. Hence the grinning and smilies. I apologize if mine came across as anything more than bad humor. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 11:58:50 AM UTC-6, Ryan wrote: I only asked because , on a quick perusal of Jan's site regarding his latest series of tires, it seemed to me that if he said they were made in Japan, but if he mentioned National Tire Co or Panaracer, I didn't catch it. Was just a question...I wasn't trying to start off a round of sniping On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 12:54:18 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 06/04/2014 01:45 PM, Chris Chen wrote: Yes, but do you THINK so? :) I'm sorry, I don't understand your comment. Jan has made it very clear that Panaracer produces both the Grand Bois and the Compass tires. So I both think so and know so. What is there about this that is confusing? Or are you setting up a springboard into a discussion of epistemology? On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.com wrote: On 06/04/2014 01:28 PM, Ryan wrote: Do you think they may be doing Jan's tires that everyone's raving about? We know Panaracer are doing them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: RIV The Oregon Outback
If it were me, I'd stick to the south (Oregon) side the whole way to Deschutes River. SR 14 is fairly busy, just two lanes with minimal shoulders in places, and also feature a series of tunnels. Right now you can avoid riding on I-84 from Troutdale to Hood River for all but about 15 miles between Cascade Locks and Hood River. (They just completed a section of the Historic Columbia River Hwy trail right around Bonneville, and the state and other agencies seem to really be serious about completing the missing link of trail in a shortish amount of time.) Staying on SR-14 also means missing out on one of the best sections of the old Historic Columbia River Hwy: between Hood River and The Dalles. The Rowena Curves are pretty awesome, and you don't want to miss the chance that the ex-mayor of Mosier taking a pic of you in front of the Mosier Totems. -Shawn On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 3:28:36 PM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote: https://goo.gl/maps/NeMmX Parallel roads on the south side of I-84 west of Bridge of the Gods. Ride WA-14 though the narrowest parts of the Gorge, much nicer. On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Jim Bronson jim.b...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Well, Jan Heine rode from the end back to Seattle per his blog. However, after 360+ miles of gravel and dirt, I'm not sure that would be my first choice. If I lived in Portland, I'd just see if I could get someone to retrieve me via car as Interstate 84 is right by Deschutes State Park. Riding to Portland would be an option, the wind does not always howl through the gorge, and it doesn't always blow west to east either. But if you caught it on a bad day it wouldn't be pleasant. Taking a route through the mountains would be an alternative if it was windy. I would not want to take US26, but I know people do use bikes on that route sometimes. It looks like there are quite a lot of National Fores (NF) roads and other back roads looking at Google Maps, but I would want local maps before deciding on a route. I'm sure there's some Portlanders who have some cycling routes through the mountains that avoid heavily traveled roads - Lolo Pass Road/NF-18 skirting the north and west flanks of Mt. Hood looks interesting. On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: The riders got to Klamath Falls via Amtrak. How did they get back from the Deschutes? For me, I'd be taking the train both ways, so as relaxing as the train is (very), it's going to be just as relaxing in the other direction. OTOH, if I was taking the train to or from the Deschutes, the nearest station would be Portland. If I remember correctly, the ferocious wind blows up the Gorge, so starting from Portland, riding to the start of the Oregon Outback and then riding the route south would make more sense to me. On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Jim Bronson jim.b...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: After much consideration, we opted to ride the route South to North for two reasons: 1) get the train and boxing up the bikes out the way first; and 2) 4k net elevation loss from K-Falls to the Deschutes. I’d definitely do it this way again. The elevation loss wasn’t a big deal, but I loved relaxing on the train, pouring over maps, drinking beers and getting psyched to ride. Riding the train at the end would mean being dirty, smelly, tired and just-wanting-to-get-home. http://velodirt.com/the-oregon-outback/ On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Eric ericwo...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Why was the route ridden South to North? With the winds, wouldn't it be better to ride from North to South? On Monday, June 2, 2014 11:09:55 PM UTC-5, Antonioni Vicente wrote: Any Rivsters out there ever ridden this route? Tons of stuff on Velodirt.com but as usual- seeking the Riv School's input. An Atlantis and a '93 XO-3 soon to tackle it... Thanks y'all. -ant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the
Re: [RBW] Re: Praise to panaracer
On 06/04/2014 01:58 PM, Ryan wrote: I only asked because , on a quick perusal of Jan's site regarding his latest series of tires, it seemed to me that if he said they were made in Japan, but if he mentioned National Tire Co or Panaracer, I didn't catch it. Panaracer makes the Compass tires for us. (They also make Grand Bois tires.) -- http://janheine.wordpress.com/2011/08/09/compass-tires-in-26-x-1-75/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Praise to panaracer
When you get traction with supple humor it's an awesome ride! But sometimes it's too steep a climb on too loose a surface and the supple humor simply spins out. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 12:08:09 PM UTC-6, Christopher Chen wrote: Just a little supple humour On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com javascript: wrote: I believe (think) Chris and I were joking, not sniping. Grin. Hence the grinning and smilies. I apologize if mine came across as anything more than bad humor. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 11:58:50 AM UTC-6, Ryan wrote: I only asked because , on a quick perusal of Jan's site regarding his latest series of tires, it seemed to me that if he said they were made in Japan, but if he mentioned National Tire Co or Panaracer, I didn't catch it. Was just a question...I wasn't trying to start off a round of sniping On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 12:54:18 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 06/04/2014 01:45 PM, Chris Chen wrote: Yes, but do you THINK so? :) I'm sorry, I don't understand your comment. Jan has made it very clear that Panaracer produces both the Grand Bois and the Compass tires. So I both think so and know so. What is there about this that is confusing? Or are you setting up a springboard into a discussion of epistemology? On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.com wrote: On 06/04/2014 01:28 PM, Ryan wrote: Do you think they may be doing Jan's tires that everyone's raving about? We know Panaracer are doing them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Gravel in New York State?
On 06/04/2014 11:01 AM, Montclair BobbyB wrote: +1 on the Gunks... Carriage trails in Minnewaska State Park are exceptional... The emerald green Minnewaska lake is breathtaking. Some of the best scenery on the East Coast, especially this time of year (when the Mt Laurel are in bloom) and again in the Fall (with spectacular foliage). The ride out to Awosting Lake from Minnewaska is a must... Pack your lunch, bring a bathing suit, camera, binoculars, etc... a fantastic day awaits you. When I was in the Mid Hudson Bicycle Club in the 1970s we used to ride the carriage trails in Minnewaska, on our road bikes w/27 x 1 1/4 tires. When we hosted GEAR 1974 we included not only rides that climbed the Gunks, but also a ride on the carriage trails. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: RIV The Oregon Outback
As for other transportation options between Portland and Deschutes, there is a twice-weekly bus that runs from downtown Portland to The Dalles, and it has bike racks. http://www.gorgetranslink.com/regional-thedalles-hoodriver-portland.html -Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Praise to panaracer
wasn't talking about you guys at allno offense taken anyway, my question was answered and these tires of Jan's sound like terrific tires...but that wouldn't surprise me. I haven't had the occasion to purchase something from the fine folks at Compass Cycles, but like Rivendell or Nitto ...the product offerings appear to be well thought out and high quality.Jason is right on about Panaracer A business model I think we all appreciate. Cheers On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 1:07:25 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: I believe (think) Chris and I were joking, not sniping. Grin. Hence the grinning and smilies. I apologize if mine came across as anything more than bad humor. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 11:58:50 AM UTC-6, Ryan wrote: I only asked because , on a quick perusal of Jan's site regarding his latest series of tires, it seemed to me that if he said they were made in Japan, but if he mentioned National Tire Co or Panaracer, I didn't catch it. Was just a question...I wasn't trying to start off a round of sniping On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 12:54:18 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 06/04/2014 01:45 PM, Chris Chen wrote: Yes, but do you THINK so? :) I'm sorry, I don't understand your comment. Jan has made it very clear that Panaracer produces both the Grand Bois and the Compass tires. So I both think so and know so. What is there about this that is confusing? Or are you setting up a springboard into a discussion of epistemology? On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.com wrote: On 06/04/2014 01:28 PM, Ryan wrote: Do you think they may be doing Jan's tires that everyone's raving about? We know Panaracer are doing them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Praise to panaracer
Yes. :) The make those as well as Grand Bois, Bruce Gordan RR, Rivendell, Soma, Pacenti, and I might have forgotten some. One good example of this is the SomaX Ocean Air Cycles co venture - the Soma CLine. The Cline is essentially a supple 38mm folding version of the Pasela 700x37c tire but with no added flat protection (low pressure and careful riding do enough for many folks) and the tread from the 35mm Pasela, with multiple color options. All of the tire lines I mentioned above have some grand-slam-dunks. Find some that fit the bikes you ride and give them a go. Jason On Jun 4, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Ryan ryter...@mts.net wrote: Do you think they may be doing Jan's tires that everyone's raving about? Have to say, I'm a big fan of their Paselas...still using them on all 4 of my bikes On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 12:19:06 PM UTC-5, Jason Leach wrote: I just want to take a minute to appreciate all of the amazing small batch tires that Panaracer produces. It is a different business model than large volume runs of their own design. It may be that Grant - with the Speedblends - opened up the doors to a modern era of custom small batch usa distributed goodies. Jason SF, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Praise to panaracer
I'm a huge fan of the barlow pass 700x38 tires. I don't know if they make me faster (I'm pretty quick anyhow) but they're definitely *fun* to ride. Cheers cc On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Ryan ryter...@mts.net wrote: wasn't talking about you guys at allno offense taken anyway, my question was answered and these tires of Jan's sound like terrific tires...but that wouldn't surprise me. I haven't had the occasion to purchase something from the fine folks at Compass Cycles, but like Rivendell or Nitto ...the product offerings appear to be well thought out and high quality.Jason is right on about Panaracer A business model I think we all appreciate. Cheers On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 1:07:25 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: I believe (think) Chris and I were joking, not sniping. Grin. Hence the grinning and smilies. I apologize if mine came across as anything more than bad humor. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 11:58:50 AM UTC-6, Ryan wrote: I only asked because , on a quick perusal of Jan's site regarding his latest series of tires, it seemed to me that if he said they were made in Japan, but if he mentioned National Tire Co or Panaracer, I didn't catch it. Was just a question...I wasn't trying to start off a round of sniping On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 12:54:18 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 06/04/2014 01:45 PM, Chris Chen wrote: Yes, but do you THINK so? :) I'm sorry, I don't understand your comment. Jan has made it very clear that Panaracer produces both the Grand Bois and the Compass tires. So I both think so and know so. What is there about this that is confusing? Or are you setting up a springboard into a discussion of epistemology? On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.com wrote: On 06/04/2014 01:28 PM, Ryan wrote: Do you think they may be doing Jan's tires that everyone's raving about? We know Panaracer are doing them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Chain Woes
I'm with you Lynne. I buy 4-packs on ebay, have them in all my bags and replace them after a few disconnects. On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 12:57:11 PM UTC-5, Lynne Fitz wrote: I have had a master link fail on me ONCE, and that was probably because I had taken it apart a few times too many (SS coupled bike dismantled a few times). For some folks, 1000 miles is as long as a chain will last. One of my riding buddies gets maybe 2000 miles on his chains; I get close to 4000 miles. I use SRAM or KMC chains, whichever are available. KMC is a smoking deal. The KMC master links can be bought in bulk; I keep a couple in my bike bag. I have also saved someone's ride when their chain broke. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: Headset spacer substitute bell mount
Unfortunately -- this is one of those otherwise very nice bells that have the striker on a little coiled spring -- in this position the striker dings every time I hit one of our 5 wide pavement expansion cracks. I will probably get one of those even nicer bells with the lever striker. It would be cheaper to consider that a feature rather than a bug. Learn to stop worrying and love the autoring. ;-) On Sunday, June 1, 2014 1:47:07 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Oh, OK. Well, I just went riding and it's a windy day, and I know, just *know*, that I was precisely 2.7315% faster than with the bell mounted on top of the bar. My leg hair *did* slow me down, though. Unfortunately -- this is one of those otherwise very nice bells that have the striker on a little coiled spring -- in this position the striker dings every time I hit one of our 5 wide pavement expansion cracks. I will probably get one of those even nicer bells with the lever striker. Patrick AND I did some hills AND I was carrying a 18 lb load Moore in hot, windy, hilly, grocery-store-infested ABQ, NM. On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Peter Morgano uscpet...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Haha, I meant the aerodynamics of bell positioning. On Jun 1, 2014 2:38 PM, Patrick Moore bert...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: ? Who's talking about weight? I'm talking about $17. Patrick that $17 still in my pocket is slowing me down Moore On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Peter Morgano uscpet...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: You should shave your legs too then, think of the weight penalties of millions of hairs catching wind and slowing you down. ;-) On Jun 1, 2014 1:28 PM, Patrick Moore bert...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: It's a bit too rich for my constitution, at $17. But all's well, I just belatedly discovered that there is just enough room under the stem extension to mount the bell on the quill above the locknut (I want the bell to face dome out, for better aerodynamics.) On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Michael john1...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Why not get the one RBW sells? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews.
Re: [RBW] Chain Woes
I too take off my chains regularly to clean them and have never had a connex link fail. I have had Sram links get very tight and impossible to get off. I save my links and reuse them because the timing chain on the tandem takes two. Cheap chains can tear out in 1000 miles, good ones should go more like 3000. Chain wear causes cog and ring wear, which leads toward shifting problems. Cheap chains are a false economy. Michael On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 2:04:23 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 06/04/2014 01:57 PM, Lynne Fitz wrote: I have had a master link fail on me ONCE, and that was probably because I had taken it apart a few times too many (SS coupled bike dismantled a few times). Oh, I doubt that very much. I take my master links apart in order to clean and relube my chains at roughly 100 mile intervals, and my chains last typically at least 5,000 miles, often more, and I've never had a master link fail. I use SRAM chains, mostly 9 speed. For some folks, 1000 miles is as long as a chain will last. One of my riding buddies gets maybe 2000 miles on his chains; I get close to 4000 miles. I use SRAM or KMC chains, whichever are available. KMC is a smoking deal. The KMC master links can be bought in bulk; I keep a couple in my bike bag. I have also saved someone's ride when their chain broke. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Chain Woes
But what about this line of reasoning: Treat chains as disposable items; If you can afford it, replace your chain more often; Expensive chains feel to me like buying super expensive paper towels for blowing your nose. I used to love cleaning chains but now I just like replacing them. :) On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: I too take off my chains regularly to clean them and have never had a connex link fail. I have had Sram links get very tight and impossible to get off. I save my links and reuse them because the timing chain on the tandem takes two. Cheap chains can tear out in 1000 miles, good ones should go more like 3000. Chain wear causes cog and ring wear, which leads toward shifting problems. Cheap chains are a false economy. Michael On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 2:04:23 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 06/04/2014 01:57 PM, Lynne Fitz wrote: I have had a master link fail on me ONCE, and that was probably because I had taken it apart a few times too many (SS coupled bike dismantled a few times). Oh, I doubt that very much. I take my master links apart in order to clean and relube my chains at roughly 100 mile intervals, and my chains last typically at least 5,000 miles, often more, and I've never had a master link fail. I use SRAM chains, mostly 9 speed. For some folks, 1000 miles is as long as a chain will last. One of my riding buddies gets maybe 2000 miles on his chains; I get close to 4000 miles. I use SRAM or KMC chains, whichever are available. KMC is a smoking deal. The KMC master links can be bought in bulk; I keep a couple in my bike bag. I have also saved someone's ride when their chain broke. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Everyone needs at least one Bosco bike
Love it. I used the bosco bars to update my wife's old specialized rockhopper for a daily rider for my son. And the spot under the bars was plenty big enough to put a swift industries saddle bag that I had laying around. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Praise to panaracer
http://bluelug.com/products/detail.php?product_id=17242 On 6/4/14, Chris Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote: I'm a huge fan of the barlow pass 700x38 tires. I don't know if they make me faster (I'm pretty quick anyhow) but they're definitely *fun* to ride. Cheers cc On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Ryan ryter...@mts.net wrote: wasn't talking about you guys at allno offense taken anyway, my question was answered and these tires of Jan's sound like terrific tires...but that wouldn't surprise me. I haven't had the occasion to purchase something from the fine folks at Compass Cycles, but like Rivendell or Nitto ...the product offerings appear to be well thought out and high quality.Jason is right on about Panaracer A business model I think we all appreciate. Cheers On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 1:07:25 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: I believe (think) Chris and I were joking, not sniping. Grin. Hence the grinning and smilies. I apologize if mine came across as anything more than bad humor. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 11:58:50 AM UTC-6, Ryan wrote: I only asked because , on a quick perusal of Jan's site regarding his latest series of tires, it seemed to me that if he said they were made in Japan, but if he mentioned National Tire Co or Panaracer, I didn't catch it. Was just a question...I wasn't trying to start off a round of sniping On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 12:54:18 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 06/04/2014 01:45 PM, Chris Chen wrote: Yes, but do you THINK so? :) I'm sorry, I don't understand your comment. Jan has made it very clear that Panaracer produces both the Grand Bois and the Compass tires. So I both think so and know so. What is there about this that is confusing? Or are you setting up a springboard into a discussion of epistemology? On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.com wrote: On 06/04/2014 01:28 PM, Ryan wrote: Do you think they may be doing Jan's tires that everyone's raving about? We know Panaracer are doing them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Chain Woes
I ride on dirt roads, and do get caught in the rain. When commuting I needed to remove my chain and throughly clean it every three weeks or so. No, cleaning chains is not fun, but they are not comparable to paper towels. Michael On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 3:26:48 PM UTC-4, Christopher Chen wrote: But what about this line of reasoning: Treat chains as disposable items; If you can afford it, replace your chain more often; Expensive chains feel to me like buying super expensive paper towels for blowing your nose. I used to love cleaning chains but now I just like replacing them. :) On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Michael Hechmer mhec...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I too take off my chains regularly to clean them and have never had a connex link fail. I have had Sram links get very tight and impossible to get off. I save my links and reuse them because the timing chain on the tandem takes two. Cheap chains can tear out in 1000 miles, good ones should go more like 3000. Chain wear causes cog and ring wear, which leads toward shifting problems. Cheap chains are a false economy. Michael On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 2:04:23 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 06/04/2014 01:57 PM, Lynne Fitz wrote: I have had a master link fail on me ONCE, and that was probably because I had taken it apart a few times too many (SS coupled bike dismantled a few times). Oh, I doubt that very much. I take my master links apart in order to clean and relube my chains at roughly 100 mile intervals, and my chains last typically at least 5,000 miles, often more, and I've never had a master link fail. I use SRAM chains, mostly 9 speed. For some folks, 1000 miles is as long as a chain will last. One of my riding buddies gets maybe 2000 miles on his chains; I get close to 4000 miles. I use SRAM or KMC chains, whichever are available. KMC is a smoking deal. The KMC master links can be bought in bulk; I keep a couple in my bike bag. I have also saved someone's ride when their chain broke. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Chain Woes
Are you sure? I'm never convinced I really get my chains clean where it really matters. So if you clean every three weeks could you replace every four weeks with a cheaper chain? On Jun 4, 2014 1:39 PM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: I ride on dirt roads, and do get caught in the rain. When commuting I needed to remove my chain and throughly clean it every three weeks or so. No, cleaning chains is not fun, but they are not comparable to paper towels. Michael On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 3:26:48 PM UTC-4, Christopher Chen wrote: But what about this line of reasoning: Treat chains as disposable items; If you can afford it, replace your chain more often; Expensive chains feel to me like buying super expensive paper towels for blowing your nose. I used to love cleaning chains but now I just like replacing them. :) On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Michael Hechmer mhec...@gmail.com wrote: I too take off my chains regularly to clean them and have never had a connex link fail. I have had Sram links get very tight and impossible to get off. I save my links and reuse them because the timing chain on the tandem takes two. Cheap chains can tear out in 1000 miles, good ones should go more like 3000. Chain wear causes cog and ring wear, which leads toward shifting problems. Cheap chains are a false economy. Michael On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 2:04:23 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 06/04/2014 01:57 PM, Lynne Fitz wrote: I have had a master link fail on me ONCE, and that was probably because I had taken it apart a few times too many (SS coupled bike dismantled a few times). Oh, I doubt that very much. I take my master links apart in order to clean and relube my chains at roughly 100 mile intervals, and my chains last typically at least 5,000 miles, often more, and I've never had a master link fail. I use SRAM chains, mostly 9 speed. For some folks, 1000 miles is as long as a chain will last. One of my riding buddies gets maybe 2000 miles on his chains; I get close to 4000 miles. I use SRAM or KMC chains, whichever are available. KMC is a smoking deal. The KMC master links can be bought in bulk; I keep a couple in my bike bag. I have also saved someone's ride when their chain broke. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Chain Woes
On 06/04/2014 04:39 PM, Michael Hechmer wrote: I ride on dirt roads, and do get caught in the rain. When commuting I needed to remove my chain and throughly clean it every three weeks or so. No, cleaning chains is not fun, but they are not comparable to paper towels. Michael On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 3:26:48 PM UTC-4, Christopher Chen wrote: But what about this line of reasoning: Treat chains as disposable items; If you can afford it, replace your chain more often; Expensive chains feel to me like buying super expensive paper towels for blowing your nose. I used to love cleaning chains but now I just like replacing them. :) Especially not with chains running anywhere from $30 to over $100 each. I wouldn't call that cheap and I find it hard to regard anything that costs that much as a disposable, not when it's so very simple to open a master link (Park makes some very nice pliers for this purpose), dunk the chain in a can of mineral spirits, hang it up to dry, and re-lube it, and extend the life of that chain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Chain Woes
Wait, we're talking $13 chains here On Jun 4, 2014 1:49 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 06/04/2014 04:39 PM, Michael Hechmer wrote: I ride on dirt roads, and do get caught in the rain. When commuting I needed to remove my chain and throughly clean it every three weeks or so. No, cleaning chains is not fun, but they are not comparable to paper towels. Michael On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 3:26:48 PM UTC-4, Christopher Chen wrote: But what about this line of reasoning: Treat chains as disposable items; If you can afford it, replace your chain more often; Expensive chains feel to me like buying super expensive paper towels for blowing your nose. I used to love cleaning chains but now I just like replacing them. :) Especially not with chains running anywhere from $30 to over $100 each. I wouldn't call that cheap and I find it hard to regard anything that costs that much as a disposable, not when it's so very simple to open a master link (Park makes some very nice pliers for this purpose), dunk the chain in a can of mineral spirits, hang it up to dry, and re-lube it, and extend the life of that chain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Chain Woes
On 06/04/2014 04:51 PM, Chris Chen wrote: Wait, we're talking $13 chains here You may be, but when I search for 9, 10 or 11 speed chains on the internet I see list prices for mid-range chains running at $50. I don't even see $13 in advertises sales. Riv's cheap 9-speed chains are $25, and the Wippermanns are $78. On Jun 4, 2014 1:49 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com mailto:palin...@his.com wrote: On 06/04/2014 04:39 PM, Michael Hechmer wrote: I ride on dirt roads, and do get caught in the rain. When commuting I needed to remove my chain and throughly clean it every three weeks or so. No, cleaning chains is not fun, but they are not comparable to paper towels. Michael On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 3:26:48 PM UTC-4, Christopher Chen wrote: But what about this line of reasoning: Treat chains as disposable items; If you can afford it, replace your chain more often; Expensive chains feel to me like buying super expensive paper towels for blowing your nose. I used to love cleaning chains but now I just like replacing them. :) Especially not with chains running anywhere from $30 to over $100 each. I wouldn't call that cheap and I find it hard to regard anything that costs that much as a disposable, not when it's so very simple to open a master link (Park makes some very nice pliers for this purpose), dunk the chain in a can of mineral spirits, hang it up to dry, and re-lube it, and extend the life of that chain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Quick question on the Cheviot
My wife has the Cheviot and we have not taken it mountain biking. It's an all-rounder with thinner slicks at this point but we will probably add some knobbies and test it out later this summer. There just aren't many great tire choices in 650b so I am being patient. I know that Riv has a video on their site with Keven putting it through the off road test and it seems to handle the off road just fine. I think it's the same all roundish bike as my Sam Hillborne. You can do almost anything on it you want. The hunqapillar seems sturdier if you plan to ride mostly off road. That's what I would get and still might someday. On Jun 4, 2014, at 9:33 AM, RJM crccpadu...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Another quick question.do y'all think this bike will make a good mountain bike? The stuff I am thinking of riding through is what is called the canal loop, which is situated in land between the lakes in western Kentucky. The trail is singletrack with some technical stuff and a lot of up and down. The whole area is full of nice singletrack and wider dirt trails and I would like a bike to ride on that. I thought about the hunqapillar, but I think the mixte frame will allow greater standover...plus I love the look of it. On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 9:19:32 AM UTC-5, Bruce Smitham wrote: It's a 650b for the 55cm On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 7:02:42 AM UTC-7, RJM wrote: It's a bit early for Riv to answer via email and this bike is on my mind. Just wondering if anybody knows the wheel size for a 55cm Cheviot? I'm seriously thinking this will be my next riv...set up like a mountain bike with albas. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/4vXaJBgiGYY/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] How to use your bike for self defense
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--Z_Yq3mUx--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_320/ew7p5hqiy9rco0gi5jkz.jpg Chuck Norris might go for something like the above. I can feel the road rash now. And no one can forget Jackie Chan's exploits on a bike. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=2SggXYXM0c8 Back in 1901, Pearson's Magazine offered this illustrated feature on how to use your bike to fend off attackers http://gizmodo.com/how-to-use-your-bike-for-self-defense-1586006795/all. I cannot endorse any of the above, but found them amusing. Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Praise to panaracer
I also want to point out that Ira Ryan - who finished the Oregon Outback mostly gravel ride with the best time, just ahead of Jan - was riding the lowly Panaracer Pasela Tourguard 700x38. On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 10:19:06 AM UTC-7, Jason Leach wrote: I just want to take a minute to appreciate all of the amazing small batch tires that Panaracer produces. It is a different business model than large volume runs of their own design. It may be that Grant - with the Speedblends - opened up the doors to a modern era of custom small batch usa distributed goodies. Jason SF, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] More jewelry from Nitto
For those of us who still like toeclips and strapsbrought to you by MKS and Nitto http://www.kinokocycles.com/mks-nitto-full-cage-toe-clip.html Rather elegant...I have to say -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Quick question on the Cheviot
On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 5:03:19 PM UTC-4, Bruce Smitham wrote: My wife has the Cheviot and we have not taken it mountain biking. It's an all-rounder with thinner slicks at this point but we will probably add some knobbies and test it out later this summer. There just aren't many great tire choices in 650b so I am being patient. I know that Riv has a video on their site with Keven putting it through the off road test and it seems to handle the off road just fine. I think it's the same all roundish bike as my Sam Hillborne. You can do almost anything on it you want. The hunqapillar seems sturdier if you plan to ride mostly off road. That's what I would get and still might someday. Actually, I was rather surprised w/ how 'pleasant' the Neo-Moto was even on the road with my Bombadil; I think a QuasiMoto might be a fine tire for it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Praise to panaracer
While I cannot comment on Panaracer tires from very limited exposure to them, I surely appreciate the Praise of them :)I mean . . . Appreciation for anything, regardless of the subject, is a most wonderful thing ! ! ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Quick question on the Cheviot
There just aren't many great tire choices in 650b so I am being patient. People love the Ardents, and they come in 27.5: http://www.artscyclery.com/Maxxis_Ardent_650B__275_Tire/descpage-MXARD7.html Pricepoint has some 120tpi 27.5 tires from Vee Rubber for $30. I have the Flying Vee in 700C/29, and they are fast, with small knobs. Easy tubeless. It looks like they do big sales on 26 and 29, but not 27.5. Sorry. I don't know if they'd fit the Cheviot, but... maybe. Philip www.biketinker.com On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 2:03:19 PM UTC-7, Bruce Smitham wrote: My wife has the Cheviot and we have not taken it mountain biking. It's an all-rounder with thinner slicks at this point but we will probably add some knobbies and test it out later this summer. There just aren't many great tire choices in 650b so I am being patient. I know that Riv has a video on their site with Keven putting it through the off road test and it seems to handle the off road just fine. I think it's the same all roundish bike as my Sam Hillborne. You can do almost anything on it you want. The hunqapillar seems sturdier if you plan to ride mostly off road. That's what I would get and still might someday. On Jun 4, 2014, at 9:33 AM, RJM crccp...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Thanks, Another quick question.do y'all think this bike will make a good mountain bike? The stuff I am thinking of riding through is what is called the canal loop, which is situated in land between the lakes in western Kentucky. The trail is singletrack with some technical stuff and a lot of up and down. The whole area is full of nice singletrack and wider dirt trails and I would like a bike to ride on that. I thought about the hunqapillar, but I think the mixte frame will allow greater standover...plus I love the look of it. On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 9:19:32 AM UTC-5, Bruce Smitham wrote: It's a 650b for the 55cm On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 7:02:42 AM UTC-7, RJM wrote: It's a bit early for Riv to answer via email and this bike is on my mind. Just wondering if anybody knows the wheel size for a 55cm Cheviot? I'm seriously thinking this will be my next riv...set up like a mountain bike with albas. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/4vXaJBgiGYY/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] More jewelry from Nitto
Looks like they finally copied the King Cage ones that they took pictures of 2 and 3 years ago at the King Cage Booth at Interbike. King Cage made them 4 years ago in Colorado USA. MKS is the King of Copys. If you want the originals check them out at - http://kingcage.com/products-waterbottle-cages.html Regards, Bruce Gordon www.bgcycles.com www.brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com (707) 762-5601 On Jun 4, 2014, at 2:45 PM, Ryan ryter...@mts.net wrote: For those of us who still like toeclips and strapsbrought to you by MKS and Nitto http://www.kinokocycles.com/mks-nitto-full-cage-toe-clip.html Rather elegant...I have to say -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: [RBW] More jewelry from Nitto
+1 for sure; I couldn't believe the blatant copy when I saw this. And also, to speak to the comfort of the King Foot Cages, I installed a set on a pair of the White Urban pedals, and together it's absolutely the most comfortable foot retention combo I've ever ridden. Looks great, too: https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8088488196/in/set-72157630285823166/ And MUSA, by a guy who is GREAT to deal with. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Gordon Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 6:09 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Cc: Ron Andrews Subject: Re: [RBW] More jewelry from Nitto Looks like they finally copied the King Cage ones that they took pictures of 2 and 3 years ago at the King Cage Booth at Interbike. King Cage made them 4 years ago in Colorado USA. MKS is the King of Copys. If you want the originals check them out at - http://kingcage.com/products-waterbottle-cages.html Regards, Bruce Gordon www.bgcycles.comhttp://www.bgcycles.com www.brucegordoncycles.blogspot.comhttp://www.brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com (707) 762-5601 On Jun 4, 2014, at 2:45 PM, Ryan ryter...@mts.netmailto:ryter...@mts.net wrote: For those of us who still like toeclips and strapsbrought to you by MKS and Nitto http://www.kinokocycles.com/mks-nitto-full-cage-toe-clip.html Rather elegant...I have to say -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Quick question on the Cheviot
Wouldn't the extra long chainstays be prohibitive to riding anything too technical? I have very little experience with MTBs. Jason SF,CA On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:02 AM, RJM crccpadu...@gmail.com wrote: It's a bit early for Riv to answer via email and this bike is on my mind. Just wondering if anybody knows the wheel size for a 55cm Cheviot? I'm seriously thinking this will be my next riv...set up like a mountain bike with albas. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Chain Woes
I have a stack of these: good cheap 8 speed chain http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/us/en/sram-pc850-8-speed-chain/rp-prod21295?utm_source=Googleutm_medium=Shoppingutm_name=UnitedStatesgclid=CjkKEQjwh7ucBRD9yY_fyZe398gBEiQAAoy4JIuWrqRbWNkYvm4u9MEC0-Vxh0WHFg965NxndChZtKPw_wcBgclsrc=aw.ds and a stack of these: good cheap 9 speed chain http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/us/en/sram-pc971-9-speed-chain/rp-prod9873 I finally ponied up the $80 for a wipperman.because my daughter was doing a science project on how long it takes chains to rust. I never even got to ride it! :-( but she got an A on her science project On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 1:51:45 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote: Wait, we're talking $13 chains here On Jun 4, 2014 1:49 PM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.com javascript: wrote: On 06/04/2014 04:39 PM, Michael Hechmer wrote: I ride on dirt roads, and do get caught in the rain. When commuting I needed to remove my chain and throughly clean it every three weeks or so. No, cleaning chains is not fun, but they are not comparable to paper towels. Michael On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 3:26:48 PM UTC-4, Christopher Chen wrote: But what about this line of reasoning: Treat chains as disposable items; If you can afford it, replace your chain more often; Expensive chains feel to me like buying super expensive paper towels for blowing your nose. I used to love cleaning chains but now I just like replacing them. :) Especially not with chains running anywhere from $30 to over $100 each. I wouldn't call that cheap and I find it hard to regard anything that costs that much as a disposable, not when it's so very simple to open a master link (Park makes some very nice pliers for this purpose), dunk the chain in a can of mineral spirits, hang it up to dry, and re-lube it, and extend the life of that chain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] More jewelry from Nitto
Umm, are you fucking kidding me? http://www.speedplay.com/pedalmuseum/images/IMG_15941.jpg http://www.speedplay.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=pedalmuseum.straps On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 3:09:33 PM UTC-7, bgcycles wrote: Looks like they finally copied the King Cage ones that they took pictures of 2 and 3 years ago at the King Cage Booth at Interbike. King Cage made them 4 years ago in Colorado USA. MKS is the “King of Copys”. If you want the originals check them out at - http://kingcage.com/products-waterbottle-cages.html Regards, Bruce Gordon www.bgcycles.com www.brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com (707) 762-5601 On Jun 4, 2014, at 2:45 PM, Ryan ryte...@mts.net javascript: wrote: For those of us who still like toeclips and strapsbrought to you by MKS and Nitto http://www.kinokocycles.com/mks-nitto-full-cage-toe-clip.html Rather elegant...I have to say -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] More jewelry from Nitto
The photo Evan attached is of a French toe clip made in the 1920s. On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 4:27:31 PM UTC-7, Evan Baird wrote: Umm, are you fucking kidding me? http://www.speedplay.com/pedalmuseum/images/IMG_15941.jpg http://www.speedplay.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=pedalmuseum.straps On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 3:09:33 PM UTC-7, bgcycles wrote: Looks like they finally copied the King Cage ones that they took pictures of 2 and 3 years ago at the King Cage Booth at Interbike. King Cage made them 4 years ago in Colorado USA. MKS is the “King of Copys”. If you want the originals check them out at - http://kingcage.com/products-waterbottle-cages.html Regards, Bruce Gordon www.bgcycles.com www.brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com (707) 762-5601 On Jun 4, 2014, at 2:45 PM, Ryan ryte...@mts.net wrote: For those of us who still like toeclips and strapsbrought to you by MKS and Nitto http://www.kinokocycles.com/mks-nitto-full-cage-toe-clip.html Rather elegant...I have to say -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] More jewelry from Nitto
Speaking of which, anybody remeber these? http://gypsybytrade.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/8616wp-2.jpg?w=584h=438 http://gypsybytrade.wordpress.com/tag/650b/ On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 4:34:47 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: The photo Evan attached is of a French toe clip made in the 1920s. On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 4:27:31 PM UTC-7, Evan Baird wrote: Umm, are you fucking kidding me? http://www.speedplay.com/pedalmuseum/images/IMG_15941.jpg http://www.speedplay.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=pedalmuseum.straps On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 3:09:33 PM UTC-7, bgcycles wrote: Looks like they finally copied the King Cage ones that they took pictures of 2 and 3 years ago at the King Cage Booth at Interbike. King Cage made them 4 years ago in Colorado USA. MKS is the “King of Copys”. If you want the originals check them out at - http://kingcage.com/products-waterbottle-cages.html Regards, Bruce Gordon www.bgcycles.com www.brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com (707) 762-5601 On Jun 4, 2014, at 2:45 PM, Ryan ryte...@mts.net wrote: For those of us who still like toeclips and strapsbrought to you by MKS and Nitto http://www.kinokocycles.com/mks-nitto-full-cage-toe-clip.html Rather elegant...I have to say -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] More jewelry from Nitto
Yes - those are the Nokio tires that were the inspiration for our Rock 'n Road tires. They were no longer in production - we made them a little different shape and tread and much lighter. I have always given credit to those tires, in fact, I have one on display next to the RNR Tires. There is nothing new in the bike business - my problem is when people copy parts that are currently made. Check out the MKS Urban Platform Pedals - then check out the White Industries Urban Platform Pedals that MKS copied. We made a Carbon Handlebar - http://www.bgcycles.com/carbon-handlebars.html - I got the idea for these bars from The Data Book - in fact they are on page 186 - hence the name. Regards, Bruce Gordon www.bgcycles.com www.brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com (707) 762-5601 On Jun 4, 2014, at 4:39 PM, Evan Baird vanster...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of which, anybody remeber these? http://gypsybytrade.wordpress.com/tag/650b/ On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 4:34:47 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: The photo Evan attached is of a French toe clip made in the 1920s. On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 4:27:31 PM UTC-7, Evan Baird wrote: Umm, are you fucking kidding me? http://www.speedplay.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=pedalmuseum.straps On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 3:09:33 PM UTC-7, bgcycles wrote: Looks like they finally copied the King Cage ones that they took pictures of 2 and 3 years ago at the King Cage Booth at Interbike. King Cage made them 4 years ago in Colorado USA. MKS is the King of Copys. If you want the originals check them out at - http://kingcage.com/products-waterbottle-cages.html Regards, Bruce Gordon www.bgcycles.com www.brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com (707) 762-5601 On Jun 4, 2014, at 2:45 PM, Ryan ryte...@mts.net wrote: For those of us who still like toeclips and strapsbrought to you by MKS and Nitto http://www.kinokocycles.com/mks-nitto-full-cage-toe-clip.html Rather elegant...I have to say -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTB: your old beat-up components
Life's too short to ride a crummy bike. On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 2:03:29 PM UTC-4, Lynne Fitz wrote: Back in 2007, I bought a Bleriot frame, had SS couplers installed, and built it up. My gruppo is the shiny silver Shimano compatible set. It looked very nice and shiny, and was meant to be my rando bike. My then-commuter/rando bike, a Sekai 2400, died a horrible death just before I built up the Bleriot. So Bleriot became my commute bike as well. Riding buddy: you are going to commute on your RIVENDELL? Me: it is a bike. get over it. 13000 miles later, one wreck (new tubes! new paint!), still going strong, and it gets ridden everywhere. And, yes, it does stick out a bit among all the commuter/beater bikes. I don't care. Message: enjoy your bike as is! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] WTB: Pair of Soma Grand Randonneur 650b Tires
Rock n' Roads 650b. Whoo hoo I can't wait! On Monday, June 2, 2014 12:29:09 PM UTC-5, bgcycles wrote: This is not a direct link to the question asked - but, since people read about 650b tires here. Bruce Gordon Cycles is in the process of having our Rock n’ Road tires in 650b x 43 size. They should be available for sale towards the end of the year - here is a link to the 700c version - http://www.bgcycles.com/rock-n-road-tire.html Regards, Bruce Gordon www.bgcycles.com www.brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com (707) 762-5601 On Jun 1, 2014, at 5:36 PM, Michael Ullmer mjul...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Does anyone have a pair of Grand Randonneur tires sitting around they would like to sell to a first-time 650b experimenter? I'm going to convert my commuter to 650b and want a huge cushy tire to do it with. Contact me off-list. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Someone here may be interested...
My apologies if I am breaking protocol -- some groups do not like FS postings if the poster doesn't own the item -- but I thought there may be interest in the Pittsburgh Craigslist ad for a 66cm Qucikbeam. http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/bik/4486922091.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: South Florida Betty Foy owners ?
Thanks for the replies. At present I am riding a semi recumbent which is not working for my back, funny (not so funny) enough I injured my back in a mountain bike accident ending in a back surgery so it has been tricky to find something that works, Legs extended on a bent or semi recumbent ends up putting pressure on the lower spine more than I thought, good for short rides but not long ones. I had one little DF trek that absolutely killed my back, was too bent over for it and was pretty jarring. I ride what ever and then drag myself to the chiropractor who yells at me and then I ride again. I just wanna have fun and be able to keep up with groups (not spandex racing groups, just fun people that prefer bikes to cars)Backs are funny things, what works for one will not work for another so clearly trying the bike would tell me everything but looks like that may not be an option and I may need to roll the dice and just do it. On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 2:26:24 PM UTC-4, Victoria wrote: I know that this is a long shot but wondering if anyone in the vicinity has a Betty Foy/ Yves/ Cheviot that I could sit on? It's so intimidating to order without checking it out, I have a tricky back and want to see if the geometry works for me prior to shipping one down here. If not I will have to take the plunge like everyone else who is not local.:) Thanks V. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: South Florida Betty Foy owners ?
Thanks for that! I blew a disc out on a mountain bike accident and ended up needing surgery and its been a little tricky finding something that works. I rode recumbents for a bit and have a semi recumbent but it seems to be nailing a nerve and throwing my back way out. Typically diamond frame bikes have been hard on me but something about this bike makes me think it could work. I could love it dearly and my back could hate it. Hopefully I can sit on one, if not then I will have to roll the dice. :) On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 5:21:37 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: If you aren't able to try one out before hand, rest assured Rivendell knows what they are doing with sizing. Grant nailed my bike sizing, and I also has a specific challenge to overcome (vertigo -- with me being unable to ride any of the trial bikes more than a few miles). I can ride my Riv. as far as my carcass is able, the vertigo is a non-issue on the bike. They'll take excellent care of you. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 12:26:24 PM UTC-6, Victoria wrote: I know that this is a long shot but wondering if anyone in the vicinity has a Betty Foy/ Yves/ Cheviot that I could sit on? It's so intimidating to order without checking it out, I have a tricky back and want to see if the geometry works for me prior to shipping one down here. If not I will have to take the plunge like everyone else who is not local.:) Thanks V. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: I raced my Riv.
Tony, you were not the only Riv in the Dirty Kanza this year. I was riding my new Sage Green 650B Sam in the Half Pint and saw you pass me when we first hit gravel. I also saw your Atlantis outside the theatre Friday night and had to take a pic since I figured the Rivs would be few and far between in the DK. Unfortunately, I had to drop out at the water stop 28 miles in because my bottom bracket went out. I was really disappointed since I probably had less than 200 miles on the Sam and was just getting in to the fun part of the race. I will say the 28 miles I rode were tough and I'm not sure I could of made the full 111. This was my first endurance event, but definitely not my first time on gravel. My goal was to at least make it to the 59 mile checkpoint. The guys I rode with that finished were pretty beat up. I can't imagine doing 200. FWIW, most of the guys I rode with were running Clements MSO 40mm or Surly Knards and did not have any flats. I was running the Force Field Fatty Rumpkins and also had no problems. I can't believe how many people were flatting! Chad in KC On Monday, June 2, 2014 9:21:13 PM UTC-5, Tony McG wrote: My Atlantis was not the only Rivendell in the Almonzo 100, but I am pretty sure that there was not another Riv in the Dirty Kanza 200 or Half Pint. The bike performed flawlessly except for my sloppy friction shifting. About a year ago, I drove up to Spring Valley, MN and rode with Jim Thill and a bunch of country bike cyclist on the Almonzo 100 course. After that experience, I decided that gravel was a lot safer and more scenic than riding on pavement. I built a Surly LHT into a gravel grinder and started riding with Guitar Ted on Saturday mornings for a 3-hour gravel ride. I found the Atlantis on this forum and realized that it was a much nicer ride than the Trucker; the Surly has been hanging in the garage since. I wasn't out to win, just finish. I haven't heard where I placed in the Almonzo, but I finished the DK Half Pint in the top 1/4 of the starters and the top 1/3 of the finishers. I carried too much stuff, and should have run lower air pressure in the tires. I was afraid of pinch flats on the cattle grates, but I was able to wheelie or hop the bike over most of them. After the race, one of the more experienced riders suggested 35# in the front and 40# in the back; I was running 45# in both of the Schwalbe Dureme 700cX40. I am looking forward to trying the Half Pint (111 miles) again next year, but I doubt if I will ever do the 200. After 8 hours of gravel, wind, hills, heat, and sun, I am ready to get off of the bike. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-JlyB_Hn0W2E/U40w_8fY_OI/ACk/U43mvfA3SuQ/s1600/DK_1225-%28ZF-0500-46390-1-001%29.jpg I love this bike and really love passing guys half my age on carbon fiber 'cross bikes... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
... for most of the cycling world the toe clip is long dead. Either ride flats or clip in. Now that tire ... one of the best designs ever and still used by a wide variety of riders. ( not just retro-grouches) ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Praise to panaracer
I am curious about that... I've never seen or heard of a Pasela in 38 mm. The largest in 700C is 37.Maybe just a slip up or maybe they were C-lines? and he was 2 hours ahead... quite a gap in my book. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 2:25:00 PM UTC-7, velomann wrote: I also want to point out that Ira Ryan - who finished the Oregon Outback mostly gravel ride with the best time, just ahead of Jan - was riding the lowly Panaracer Pasela Tourguard 700x38. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Praise to panaracer
Once we got them to make the c-lines they reintroduced the pasella in 38c as well. Its the same mold with different casing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I raced my Riv.
what happened to your bottom bracket? On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Wildcat96 cschoentha...@gmail.com wrote: Tony, you were not the only Riv in the Dirty Kanza this year. I was riding my new Sage Green 650B Sam in the Half Pint and saw you pass me when we first hit gravel. I also saw your Atlantis outside the theatre Friday night and had to take a pic since I figured the Rivs would be few and far between in the DK. Unfortunately, I had to drop out at the water stop 28 miles in because my bottom bracket went out. I was really disappointed since I probably had less than 200 miles on the Sam and was just getting in to the fun part of the race. I will say the 28 miles I rode were tough and I'm not sure I could of made the full 111. This was my first endurance event, but definitely not my first time on gravel. My goal was to at least make it to the 59 mile checkpoint. The guys I rode with that finished were pretty beat up. I can't imagine doing 200. FWIW, most of the guys I rode with were running Clements MSO 40mm or Surly Knards and did not have any flats. I was running the Force Field Fatty Rumpkins and also had no problems. I can't believe how many people were flatting! Chad in KC On Monday, June 2, 2014 9:21:13 PM UTC-5, Tony McG wrote: My Atlantis was not the only Rivendell in the Almonzo 100, but I am pretty sure that there was not another Riv in the Dirty Kanza 200 or Half Pint. The bike performed flawlessly except for my sloppy friction shifting. About a year ago, I drove up to Spring Valley, MN and rode with Jim Thill and a bunch of country bike cyclist on the Almonzo 100 course. After that experience, I decided that gravel was a lot safer and more scenic than riding on pavement. I built a Surly LHT into a gravel grinder and started riding with Guitar Ted on Saturday mornings for a 3-hour gravel ride. I found the Atlantis on this forum and realized that it was a much nicer ride than the Trucker; the Surly has been hanging in the garage since. I wasn't out to win, just finish. I haven't heard where I placed in the Almonzo, but I finished the DK Half Pint in the top 1/4 of the starters and the top 1/3 of the finishers. I carried too much stuff, and should have run lower air pressure in the tires. I was afraid of pinch flats on the cattle grates, but I was able to wheelie or hop the bike over most of them. After the race, one of the more experienced riders suggested 35# in the front and 40# in the back; I was running 45# in both of the Schwalbe Dureme 700cX40. I am looking forward to trying the Half Pint (111 miles) again next year, but I doubt if I will ever do the 200. After 8 hours of gravel, wind, hills, heat, and sun, I am ready to get off of the bike. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-JlyB_Hn0W2E/U40w_8fY_OI/ACk/U43mvfA3SuQ/s1600/DK_1225-%28ZF-0500-46390-1-001%29.jpg I love this bike and really love passing guys half my age on carbon fiber 'cross bikes... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: Green 58 Rambouillet f/f/hs/bb $800
Green Rambouillet in San Francsico. I have an Orange (persimmon) that I love. I bought this intending to build it up as a 650b, but I've decided that I have too many projects going. Here is a link to the craiglist ad and a few pictures. http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/4504743554.html Thanks for looking, Michael Allen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Quick question on the Cheviot
The long chainstays will make it more difficult to loft the front wheel over logs, etc. Eric Dublin, OH bikingtoplay.blogspot.com On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 6:43 PM, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote: Wouldn't the extra long chainstays be prohibitive to riding anything too technical? I have very little experience with MTBs. Jason SF,CA On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:02 AM, RJM crccpadu...@gmail.com wrote: It's a bit early for Riv to answer via email and this bike is on my mind. Just wondering if anybody knows the wheel size for a 55cm Cheviot? I'm seriously thinking this will be my next riv...set up like a mountain bike with albas. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Praise to panaracer
They must not have released them for sale in the US yet. I can't find any reference to them, even on Panaracers website. ~mike On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 5:17:19 PM UTC-7, Evan Baird wrote: Once we got them to make the c-lines they reintroduced the pasella in 38c as well. Its the same mold with different casing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Crepitus clunking from bb?
So it's my rear hub. one year old velocity atlas wheel set and it's shot. Spoke to Rich and they are going to help me out. I found out exactly what it was when I went to remove my rear fender I had worn through. Yes, worn through. It's a PDW soda pop that clips to the rear chain stay bridge and seat tube so it had play combined with my saddle sack hitting it. Noticed that the hub had play and investigated it further to find the cones are all pitted and rusted out. I regressed and adjusted it buts still crepitus. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTB: your old beat-up components
Please post pics On Monday, June 2, 2014 2:25:24 AM UTC-4, Christopher Miller Rosales wrote: Hey all! Thank you for those who got in touch. I've decided to do very minor adjustments to the bike to make it fit my riding better, but to keep most of the original component group. The Suntour is too beautiful not to use! -Chris On Thursday, May 29, 2014 11:54:51 AM UTC-7, Christopher Miller Rosales wrote: Hey All! I picked up a beautiful 1985 Specialized Sequoia with pristine Suntour Superbe/Cyclone components. The bike is an absolute joy to ride and I'm making it my every day bike, but I feel guilty using these super high polish parts on a commuter. I've decided to box most of the original components and put on a more utilitarian group. Please let me know if you have any of the following in your parts box! Quill stem 120 - 130mm, 25.4 Crankset - single or double road, matching front derailleur Nitto Albatross or similar upright bar Short Pull Levers Thumb shifters - friction/7/8 speed Commuter wheelset, 700c 130mm cassette I'm looking for quality, but ugly components - like old beat-up XT. Thank you all for the help on building my new bike, message me if you have anything. I can't wait to make this my budget commuter Rivendell! Will post pics when done. Best, Chris Berkeley, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Chain Woes
On 06/04/2014 07:26 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: I have a stack of these: good cheap 8 speed chain http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/us/en/sram-pc850-8-speed-chain/rp-prod21295?utm_source=Googleutm_medium=Shoppingutm_name=UnitedStatesgclid=CjkKEQjwh7ucBRD9yY_fyZe398gBEiQAAoy4JIuWrqRbWNkYvm4u9MEC0-Vxh0WHFg965NxndChZtKPw_wcBgclsrc=aw.ds and a stack of these: good cheap 9 speed chain http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/us/en/sram-pc971-9-speed-chain/rp-prod9873 $25 ea when you figure in the shipping; admittedly, $30 but a long way from $13, too -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
Either ride flats or clip in. Says you. I am a huge fan of Bruce Gordon half clips. They are on all of my bikes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Praise to panaracer
How much larger? I don't think we need another 42mm at this point. A 45-47mm would be cool though. On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 8:23:30 PM UTC-4, Evan Baird wrote: By the way, I've been asking them to make the Pari Moto tread in a larger size, so if that's something you want email them and let them know that I'm not just a crazy person. You can also tweet at Jeff @panaracerjeff http://www.panaracer.com/contact.php -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Carradice Duxback Poncho - Opinions?
Thanks, all for the testimonials... looking forward to my next rain ride... BB On Sunday, June 1, 2014 6:49:03 PM UTC-4, Jonathan Shinefeld wrote: Hi Bobby, I've had a Duxback poncho for years. With spats I stay dry and it's my choice for cold rainy days with a light layer underneath. It is less wonderful in high winds, acting like a sail. Of course with the wind at my back, I get where I'm going lickety split. That said, I just ordered a Showers Pass Touring rain jacket on clearance from the manufacturer for half price ($75). Jon PhillyPA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] More jewelry from Nitto
Umm, are you fucking kidding me? You thought those were worth cursing Bruce Gordon? The MKS look exactly like the King Cages. Every detail. Both are easily distinguished from the old French clips. I'm with Bruce on this. King does great work. He and his wife run a great operation. Cannot think of any reason to go MKS. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
I love my BG half toe clips on White Industries pedals. On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:50 PM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote: Either ride flats or clip in. Says you. I am a huge fan of Bruce Gordon half clips. They are on all of my bikes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Praise to panaracer
I would like it if Panaracer made something less expensive in the 38-42mm size, in 650b. 700x38 Pasela would be great but I don't own a bike that has clearance for that. On Jun 4, 2014 8:51 PM, Dave Johnston jdi...@gmail.com wrote: How much larger? I don't think we need another 42mm at this point. A 45-47mm would be cool though. On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 8:23:30 PM UTC-4, Evan Baird wrote: By the way, I've been asking them to make the Pari Moto tread in a larger size, so if that's something you want email them and let them know that I'm not just a crazy person. You can also tweet at Jeff @panaracerjeff http://www.panaracer.com/contact.php -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Praise to panaracer
Ooh ooh can we get a 650 x 35-38 knobby? I'd like to further underbike my Riv Road, which won't fit a 650 x 42b. On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 9:40 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: I would like it if Panaracer made something less expensive in the 38-42mm size, in 650b. 700x38 Pasela would be great but I don't own a bike that has clearance for that. On Jun 4, 2014 8:51 PM, Dave Johnston jdi...@gmail.com wrote: How much larger? I don't think we need another 42mm at this point. A 45-47mm would be cool though. On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 8:23:30 PM UTC-4, Evan Baird wrote: By the way, I've been asking them to make the Pari Moto tread in a larger size, so if that's something you want email them and let them know that I'm not just a crazy person. You can also tweet at Jeff @panaracerjeff http://www.panaracer.com/contact.php -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: My 71 cm AHH
Beautiful bike Jim! Love the fenders, I think I'm going to add a set as winter approaches (although last winter I think it only rained five days in SoCal). Have you ever thought about going with a shorter stem to move the Noodles closer to you? I can definitely say that I have totally fallen in love with the Albatross bars. I used to have multiple race bikes (all too small), then had a back surgery and sold them all! The Albatross bars are great, I can reach and grab the front of them if I want to get semi-aggressive, but can be totally upright on the grips around town, super comfy. My PBH is 98.5. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: RIV The Oregon Outback
So then a better choice would be a wider smooth tire? Like, for example, the Schwalbe Super-Motos? On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Jan Heine hein...@earthlink.net wrote: My 42 mm Compass Babyshoe Pass Extralight tires were great on 85% of the gravel sections. There were a number of places where the gravel was very sandy and soft, where everybody seemed to have trouble. Wider tires would have been useful there. On the other hand, 30% of the ride was on paved roads, where any knobbies would slow you down considerably. It's no coincidence that the two fastest finishers were on road tires (38 and 42 mm wide). My current hypothesis is that wider high-performance road tires (if they were in fact available) would be ideal for this event, but considering the currently available options, I'd choose the same tires again if I was going for a fast time. Jan Heine Compass Bicycles Ltd. www.compasscycle.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 8:46:17 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote: Jan said after the ride that he would have preferred something fatter than 42 mm for the dirt sections. I think a low profile knobby in like 52-56 mm wide would be ideal. Schwalbe makes some super plush XC racing tires like the Thunder Burt that would be great for this ride. I know of a few people who used these and were very pleased with the performance on this ride. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 8:58:52 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: Here are pictures of some of the bikes that did the organized Oregon Outback. https://www.facebook.com/jamesnathanjones/media_set? set=a.10203614505580588.1073741833.1154446016type=1 What tires were you thinking of using for the route? The 1.9 smooth Schwalbes I have on my Atlantis seem like a tiny bit of underbiking, and the 3 tires on my Krampus seem like overbiking. Jan Heine did the route, very fast, on smooth 42mm Compass Babyshoe Pass tires on his randonneur bike. I'd be happier with more rubber and disc brakes than on a randonneur bike, I'm pretty sure. On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 8:44 AM, velomann velo...@gmail.com wrote: When are you going? I'm considering for later June myself but don't want to go it alone. Mike On Monday, June 2, 2014 9:09:55 PM UTC-7, Antonioni Vicente wrote: Any Rivsters out there ever ridden this route? Tons of stuff on Velodirt.com but as usual- seeking the Riv School's input. An Atlantis and a '93 XO-3 soon to tackle it... Thanks y'all. -ant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: More jewelry from Nitto
I think the BG half-clips really look fine, but my daughter rides half-clips on one bike and hers are nylon, we both ride Ale's on our go-fast bikes, and I ride Grip Kings on my utility bike. Maybe one day I'll have the bike for them. On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 9:10:40 PM UTC-5, danmc wrote: I love my BG half toe clips on White Industries pedals. On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:50 PM, Matthew J matth...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Either ride flats or clip in. Says you. I am a huge fan of Bruce Gordon half clips. They are on all of my bikes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: My 71 cm AHH
Beautiful bike Jim! Love the fenders, I think I'm going to add a set next winter (although last winter I think it only rained five days in SoCal). Have you ever thought about going with a shorter stem to move the Noodles closer to you? I can definitely say that I have totally fallen in love with the Albatross bars. I used to have multiple race bikes (all too small) with drop bars, then had a back surgery and sold them all! I had initially planned on going with drops with the AHH until Keven suggested the Albatross. I have to admit that the Albatross bars are great, I can reach and grab the front of them if I want to get semi-aggressive, but can be totally upright on the grips around town, super comfy. My PBH is 98.5. On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 7:36:54 AM UTC-7, Jim wrote: You bet! http://1drv.ms/TdhxFK I've since sold the platrack and front bag to a list member. http://1drv.ms/TdhLN9 http://1drv.ms/1pRdMAz I'm thinking about trying Boscos or Albastaches with it, as the reach with noodles is a bit long, even for my long torso. I like the look of yours. Just curious, what is your PBH? (mine is 100 even) Jim in Boulder On Monday, June 2, 2014 10:17:46 PM UTC-6, Joe K. wrote: Jim- Do you have any pics of your Homer with the Noodles? Would love to see it! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Chain Woes
That's why you buy by the stack. Or that's the reason I buy by the stack. A lot of places, including Chain Reaction (and Rivendell), do free shipping when you spend a decent amount of money. I'd never order a single chain on the internet. You might as well pay retail at the LBS if you are only going to buy them one at a time. On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 6:49:01 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 06/04/2014 07:26 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: I have a stack of these: good cheap 8 speed chain http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/us/en/sram-pc850-8-speed-chain/rp-prod21295?utm_source=Googleutm_medium=Shoppingutm_name=UnitedStatesgclid=CjkKEQjwh7ucBRD9yY_fyZe398gBEiQAAoy4JIuWrqRbWNkYvm4u9MEC0-Vxh0WHFg965NxndChZtKPw_wcBgclsrc=aw.ds and a stack of these: good cheap 9 speed chain http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/us/en/sram-pc971-9-speed-chain/rp-prod9873 $25 ea when you figure in the shipping; admittedly, $30 but a long way from $13, too -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: RBW 20th Anniversary Gathering and Entmoot -- SF Bay edition
Correction - Smitty and I will be leaving Monday. Sign us up for China Camp only. Brian Hanson Seattle, WA On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 11:43:42 PM UTC-7, stonehog wrote: Jim - count me in. I'll likely be there all three nights. I'll be driving the SEA - PDX - SFO ferry pickup. I have 2 riders (Smitty and Hugh) south, but could probably fit a 4th. Only 1 other (Smitty) returning north at this point, so if anyone else needs a ride, let me know. Brian Hanson Seattle, WA On Monday, June 2, 2014 8:19:10 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote: As mentioned above, I've reserved a 40-person group site at China Camp for 2 nights, July 12 13th. And because it's RBW's backyard, I've reserved a 30-person group site on Mt Diablo for Monday, July 14th. I assume there will be some drop off of attendees, or even some informal camping in the backcountry for Monday. Master wheelbuilder Rich Lesnik has confirmed his attendance, as has RBW all around nice guy Vince Nivolo. More announcements of RBW folk will be forthcoming. For planning purposes, now would be a good time to let me know if you're really going to attend. The poll didn't exceed 40, but if we have many more than that, we should get another campsite or two. I have some volunteers already, but if you want to volunteer for something (leading a ride, cooking, shuttling, moonshine distilling), let me know that too. cheers jim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: RBW 20th Anniversary Gathering and Entmoot -- SF Bay edition
I'm in for the first two nights. I'd love to help cook. On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 8:19 PM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: As mentioned above, I've reserved a 40-person group site at China Camp for 2 nights, July 12 13th. And because it's RBW's backyard, I've reserved a 30-person group site on Mt Diablo for Monday, July 14th. I assume there will be some drop off of attendees, or even some informal camping in the backcountry for Monday. Master wheelbuilder Rich Lesnik has confirmed his attendance, as has RBW all around nice guy Vince Nivolo. More announcements of RBW folk will be forthcoming. For planning purposes, now would be a good time to let me know if you're really going to attend. The poll didn't exceed 40, but if we have many more than that, we should get another campsite or two. I have some volunteers already, but if you want to volunteer for something (leading a ride, cooking, shuttling, moonshine distilling), let me know that too. cheers jim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: RBW 20th Anniversary Gathering and Entmoot -- SF Bay edition
Often the stations will have used boxes that they'll let you use for free. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Ah good to know. ~Hugh “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 7:15 PM, Shawn Granton urbanadventurelea...@gmail.com wrote: There is a $10 fee to check a boxed bike, besides the cost of the box. So box plus fee is $25. Shawn On Jun 3, 2014 7:07 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: No extra charge as far as I can tell. ~Hugh “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Peter, The box is $15 and yes it's checked luggage. You can only do checked luggage from certain (large) stations. It is recommended to call the station and ask if they have boxes tape. The pathlesspedaled recommends bringing a black Sharpe to write on the box tape. When I looked into traveling with my bike from the Bay Area it's all buses out of the city that run you to the Coast Starlight et al. ~Hugh “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: How does that work, is the box considered checked luggage? If not is there an extra charge? Thanks. On Jun 3, 2014 8:13 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Got it: Amtrak Bike Box Dimensions: 69x 41 X 8.5 ~Hugh “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Doug, I was just about to email a pathlesspedaled. Do you know the length dimension of the Amtrak bike box? I now have the Albastache bars on the Atlantis and I kept the cables somewhat tight to the bars. I can rotate them but removal would be near impossible. I'd like to measure the bike length with the bars turned and check against the box dimension. Otherwise I'd need to re-wrap the bars! ~Hugh “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 3:36 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Hugh: The Amtrak packing process is super user friendly. The boxes are HUGE. Remove the pedals. Turn the bars 90 degrees. Roll bike into box. No wheel removal or other futzing. Nitto drops with bar end shifters fit but I may have loosened the clamp to allow rotation. Check out a box at Union Station. You'll be amazed. I think you do need to check luggage well ahead of train arrival like you say you don't want to be jammed for time. dougP On Monday, June 2, 2014 8:38:18 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Jim, Dude thanks so much for doing the reservations...I plan on being down/up for the 12th 13th. I was planning on catching the Coast Starlight Monday morning. I could if the Riv fever has me leave Tuesday morning?? Anyway I'm down for two nights at CC. I will of course reimburse for my portion. Anyone have a space for me potentially Sunday night around Oakland Jack London Square so I can get up early to pack my bike and catch the train? ~Hugh “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 8:19 PM, Jim M. math...@gmail.com wrote: As mentioned above, I've reserved a 40-person group site at China Camp for 2 nights, July 12 13th. And because it's RBW's backyard, I've reserved a 30-person group site on Mt Diablo for Monday, July 14th. I assume there will be some drop off of attendees, or even some informal camping in the backcountry for Monday. Master wheelbuilder Rich Lesnik has confirmed his attendance, as has RBW all around nice guy Vince Nivolo. More announcements of RBW folk will be forthcoming. For planning purposes, now would be a good time to let me know if you're really going to attend. The poll didn't exceed 40, but if we have many more than that, we should get another campsite or two. I have some volunteers already, but if you want to volunteer for something (leading a ride, cooking, shuttling, moonshine distilling), let me know that too. cheers jim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/f2JuoFUSiP8/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this
