Re: Purchasing a new system
I'm not planning on taking the discussion offlist, though I've had a few responses offlist, and those have recommended Ecrix or AIT, so those are the leading contenders. My boss is really leery of Ecrix, no matter how much I push it. She's worried that, should something happen to the company in two years or so (since they're the only one doing this kind of tape/drive now), we won't have the $$ in our budget to purchase a whole new system. I keep working on her. :) At 12:56 PM -0500 1/24/01, Tim David wrote: I can't speak for everyone but I hope you keep this discussion on the list. If it does happen to go off-line, I would greatly appreciate a copy of the final thoughts. There was a thread that went around a couple of months ago with price comparisons for all of these different media types (including hardware and media) but I'm sure it's already outdated. The VXA drive from Ecrix looked like it had potential for a smaller setup due to it's price of drives and media. The media also looks very reliable according to the material on their web site. I am currently using DLT and it gets a little expensive to stay as redundant as I would like to be. I've noticed that Ecrix is coming out with larger tape libraries, Does anyone think that will make it a more viable solution or is AIT still the way to go? thanks, Tim Stephen Jones wrote: I would have to say AIT. Sony pulled the plug on the proposed DDS-5 so I wouldn't suggest that line at all (end of product life). Also, DAT drives have 1/5th the head life expectancy (10,000 hours instead of AIT's 50,000 hours). DLT would definitely be better than DAT but is faced with the same situation as 4mm. The current best DLT is the 8000 series. It's 40GB uncompressed by 6MB/second. The Gen I version of the upcoming SuperDLT will *NOT* be backward compatible. Are you prepared to purchase something that will not work with the very next version of the hardware? AIT, also made by Sony, gives you two choices (AIT-1 and AIT-2). AIT-1 (35GB/3MB/second uncompressed) inside a library costs less than $4500 and holds 525GB uncompressed. AIT-2 is 50GB by 6MB/second (and is considerably less than a DLT library - it's also self-cleaning, DLT is not). AIT-2 is backward compatible (read and write) with AIT-1. You could start with AIT-1 and upgrade to AIT-2 in the future should you need more capacity and speed -- and use the very same library chassis. AIT-3 (100GB by 12MB/second) is due out later this year and is backward compatible with AIT-1 and 2. When AIT-4 hits the street two years form now (a proposed 200GB by 24MB/second), it too will be backward compatible with all previous AIT generations. DLT, up to a couple years ago, was definitely king of the hill. But in the game of technology, no one stands paramount indefinitely. AIT has definitely become more popular -- with a roadmap to larger/faster drives while remaining backward compatible. I was surprised to hear the news that DLT could not offer backward compatibility with their upcoming SuperDLT drive. We have many DLT customers who will not be able to upgrade. In fact, because of that, a lot of our DLT customers have moved to AIT. Please feel free to contact me with any tech questions, I have been a storage engineer for ten years and work with all formats daily. All the best! Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Windows Client Question
Okay, I'm going to admit my ignorance here. We have a Mac-based server for Retrospect, and for the most part of Mac only clients. The few Windows NT clients we have are server, and are never shut off. Well, we're now adding an NT machine that is not a server, and therefore it's usually turned off at night. I need to know in what state the machine needs to be left in order to get it backed up. I have looked in the book, but I think this is something that's just intuitive to Windows folk, and not to me, who is used to Macs. I feel silly asking this question, but I don't want to keep experimenting until I find out what works. :) Thanks tons in advance! [by the way, I'm only doing document/file backing up on this machine. No registry or program backing up.] -- --- Julia Frizzell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.netspace.org/~glyneth http://www.theblackroad.org "Insert pithy quote here." -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: User deferred messages
At 11:59 AM + 1/18/01, Mark Witrylak wrote: As I am migrating my users to the MacOS9 environment, I am observing more and more of them missing a backup with message "User Deferred" being reported on my log: I have checked the user-guide and e-mailed euro-support@Dantz, both to no avail. Has anyone seen/overcome this problem? (server is 4.3 on OS8.6, clients are 4.2a/4.3) Are you using a Backup Server environment? I have the laptops in our office backed up using a backup server during the day, wherein the users can defer the time of backup. But I use a non-server environment at night to back up the desktop clients, so there is no chance of the user deferring. -- ------- Julia Frizzell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.netspace.org/~glyneth http://www.theblackroad.org "Insert pithy quote here." -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: 2gb limit?
At 9:46 AM -0800 1/12/01, Glenn L. Austin wrote: At 19:34 2001-01-11 -0800, you wrote: I need to check to be sure, but I believe both are HFS +. The powerbook is running Retrospect, and backing itself up onto a firewire drive. -- The 2 gb limit is damn annoying but you have to get used to it. The limit is the mac os itself, not retrospect. Well, that's not entirely true -- the other night I captured 54 minutes of video at 340x240x16, and the resulting file is almost 15Gb in size, so files bigger than 2Gb are entirely possible. It depends entirely on what OS you're using. OS9 and higher supports file sizes larger than 2GB. 8.6 and lower do not. -- -- Julia Frizzellhttp://www.netspace.org/~glyneth [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.theblackroad.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 8458071 "Honor is what you know about yourself. Reputation is what others think about you." -- Aral Vorkosigan -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Backing up Appleshare server
At 1:50 PM -0400 9/22/00, Daniel Knight wrote: Stefan Jeglinski One option FWIW is to get an old cx and run SIMS on it for your mail. We actually run SIMS on Mac-on-Linux on LinuxPPC (works great). We use ASIP for file sharing, but I can't imagine anyone using ASIP mail for anything, it is so lame. Second. I've run SIMS on as low as a Mac II. Also on a IIsi, IIfx, Quadra 650, Power Mac 6100, SuperMac J700, and iMac, both Rev. B and Blueberry 350 MHz models. Wonderful program, great email support list, fantastic anti-spam features. What is SIMS, and where can I find it/more about it? We only use ASIPs mail for a few people. If we can move it to another server, I'd be happy. We have an old Mac II that is currently only serving as our Now Up-to-Date calendar server, we might be able to share the use. :) -- -- Julia Frizzellhttp://www.netspace.org/~glyneth [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.theblackroad.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 8458071 "Honor is what you know about yourself. Reputation is what others think about you." -- Aral Vorkosigan -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Advice requested: tape system
At 8:58 AM +0100 9/18/00, Graham, Total Coverage Limited wrote: Hi I've been using Retrospect very successfully for some while now, backing up our small Mac LAN to recordable CDs. However our company has grown some over time and the use of CD-R is no longer a real option as it takes too long to do a full backup of the 30GB or so of data on the LAN. I am therefore looking for an economical, reliable tape based solution that can handle the job. There seem to be many different ysstems available on the market, but rather than wade through a pile of manufacturer misinformation I thought I would come straight to the horse's mouth, so to speak. What works? Any help or pointers that fellow list-users might be able to offer will be gratefully received. This is from a previous post on the list, from the beginning of August. I hope this helps, and I hope Larry (and the list) doesn't mind my reposting... At 1:36 AM -0700 8/3/00, Larry Acosta Wong wrote: I've added the two OnStream drives (ADR50 and SC30) in the internal SCSI configurations (wide connector if available). I've listed the pricing I can get to keep the comparison prices consistent. Steve Rothman, the Eliant 820 is an Exabyte drive utilizing an 8mm helical scan tape. The VXA-1 media $/GB price is also actually a bit higher than you calculated Media $/GB --- Exabyte M2: 60GB, 12MB/s, $3777 ($80 media) 1.33 Sony AIT-2: 50GB, 6MB/s, $3289 ($94 media) 1.88 DLT 8000 : 40GB, 6MB/s, $3915 ($64 media) 1.60 Sony AIT-1: 35GB, 3MB/s, $1913 ($88 media) 2.51 VXA-1 : 33GB, 3MB/s, $939 ($67 media) 2.03 ADR50 : 25GB, 2MB/s, $697 ($46 media) 1.84 DDS-4 : 20GB, 3MB/s, $1072 ($33 media) 1.65 Mammoth : 20GB, 3MB/s, $2126 ($56 media) 2.80 DLT 4000 : 20GB, 1.5MB/s, $1352 ($64 media) 3.20 SC30 : 15GB, 2MB/S, $438 ($41 media) 2.73 Mammoth-LT: 14GB, 2MB/s, $1193 ($35 media) 2.50 DDS-3 : 12GB, 1MB/s, $777 ($16 media) 1.33 Eliant 820: 7GB, 1MB/s, $1160 ( $8 media) 1.14 DDS-2 : 4GB, .51MB/s, $606 ( $7 media) 1.75 -Native capacity listed, compressed capacity is typically 50% more -Sustained transfer rate listed -Cost is based on internal model with wide SCSI connector (if available) -VXA-1 tape drive is even cheaper through Ecrix July promo ($539) -Media listed is highest capacity format in single packs Here's how I personally chose which tape drive to go with: The way I figure, in order, the most important factors regarding the tape backup system are: 1. Reliability 2. Performance 3. Ease 4. Cost Some of these items will be in different order for other people but I think that reliability is always the most important factor in a backup. (To stress my point, substitute the word "parachute" for "backup." I'm sure you'll always choose the most reliable parachute over any other.) Reliability: The key feature with a backup is the ability to restore data and no tape system is 100% problem-free. But, only Ecrix makes these ridiculous durability claims and actually backs it up with extreme torture tests (boiling freezing tapes). This is what really got my attention on the VXA drives. Performance: You need to backup your users in the shortest amount of time possible. If it takes you more than one night to create a full backup, some users will go more than a day between backups thus reducing your backup system's effectiveness. Plus, the less you inconvenience your users, the less likely they'll keep "snoozing" Retrospect when it starts a backup. But with a fast tape drive you'll need a fast network and fast clients. Watch for the bottleneck. Ease: higher capacity tapes reduce the amount of tape swapping that needs to happen during a backup or restore. If it takes 5 tapes to perform a full backup, then it'll take 5 nights before the full backup is done and the first incremental backup can take place meaning that some people will go 5 days between their full and incremental backups. Ideally, a full backup will fit on a single tape or you'll have an autoloader. Cost: lower = good but when computing the cost per GB, you must factor in the cost of the tape drive as well. $7 media sounds really appealing but weigh in drive cost, performance and storage capacity. Below, I've computed actual cost per GB for my test scenario of 100GB total to backup, 3 storage sets. Tran#Tapes Total True Model (GB) RatePrice Media Req'd Price $/GB --- VXA-1 333MB/s$539 $6712 $1,343 $3.39 DDS-3 121MB/s$777 $1627 $1,209 $3.73 DDS-24 .51MB/s$606 $775 $1,131 $3.77 SC30152MB/s$438 $4121 $1,299 $4.12 ADR50 252MB/s$697 $4612 $1,249 $4.16 VXA-1
Re: backup strategy - followup
At 9:53 AM +0200 9/14/00, jakob krabbe wrote: Discussed on this list earlier: Run retrospect server on portables during day and stationaries dyring night where backup source = VXA. --- If I change tape in the morning, doesn't the recykled nigh backup overwrite the portables!? Maybe I'm better off changing the tape at night after the portables have been backed up but before the nighshift starts? That is what I do. I have a "laptop backup" tape that runs off a backup server from 9:00 to 3:00, then at 3:00 I switch to my nightly backup tape (changes depending on the night, and the week). And yes, if you're backing up everything to one tape, and recycling it, then you are erasing what the server did during the day. ------ Julia Frizzell User Consultant/Analyst The Education Alliance Northeast and Islands Regional Educational Laboratory at Brown University 222 Richmond Street, Suite 300 Providence, Rhode Island 02903-4226 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 401.274.9548 x311 or 800.521.9550 x311 401.421.7650 (fax) http://www.lab.brown.edu -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: backup strategy - followup
At 2:57 PM +0200 9/14/00, jakob krabbe wrote: That is what I do. I have a "laptop backup" tape that runs off a backup server from 9:00 to 3:00, then at 3:00 I switch to my nightly backup tape (changes depending on the night, and the week). Sounds reasonable. I think I'll tune in my server clock to someting similar. And yes, if you're backing up everything to one tape, and recycling it, then you are erasing what the server did during the day. Just checking, reverse is not true? My overnight backup is not overwritten during the day...? It all depends on what type of backup you're doing. A Normal Backup appends to new data to the tape. A Recycle Backup erases the tape and starts over. A New Media Backup makes a new backup set on new media. [good descriptions are on page 60-61 of the copy of the manual I have, which I think was 4.2] Also, which tape of the week do you save? I have two "monday tapes" that I cyckle and I'm planning to increase that to four tapes... I'm still in backup-tune-in-mode and I have a feeling mondays are not the best days...?? What day works best for you? Well, I inherited the backup system from my predecessor, and I will probably change it if we get our funding grant renewed in December. What we do currently is this: Week 1 - Normal backup, Monday through Thursday, on a tape for each day. On Friday we do a recycle backup that copies everything. Week 2 - same as Week 1, with a different set of tapes. Weekends currently do a full server backup to hard drives. This is one of the things we'll change with the refunding...getting an autoloader or something to do the server backup/tape change on the weekends. We also use a separate tape for laptop backups during the day (as mentioned earlier). As it stands right now, we've just made a complete switch to new tapes for the Monday-Thursday backups, and we started this with new tapes in March. I should also mention that we only backup a user's Documents folder, and they are instructed to put anything work-related that needs to be saved in there. We also do the bookmarks.html file. Everything else is (mostly) standard for applications, so if there is a problem, we can restore a user relatively easily. -- --- Julia Frizzell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.netspace.org/~glyneth http://www.theblackroad.org "Insert pithy quote here." -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
File Locking and Retrospect
We've just recently become interested in purchasing some commercial product to allow for file/disk/folder locking, for more security on our desktops. Can anyone tell me what effect this might have on Retrospect backups, and what, if any, products will work with Retrospect to make sure the backup is successful? And I'm assuming that no one has any ideas on my earlier question about the tape rewinding and starting over again, which means I need to start a new tape set. sigh If you have any other ideas, please tell me! -- -- Julia Frizzellhttp://www.netspace.org/~glyneth [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.theblackroad.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 8458071 "In cyberspace, EVERYONE can hear you scream." -- my husband, 8/94 -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tape eating tail
Hi folks! Last night's backup stopped halfway through the process, asking for a new tape. I was told by the previous sysadmin that the tapes should "eat their own tails" and not ask for a new tape, but this is the first time that we've hit the end of the tape in our new set of backup tapes. I don't know a lot about this, but should the tape do this? Is there a setting in Retrospect to make it to this, or do I need to actually start using another tape/set? I'm using a DDS-3 APS tape drive, and just upgraded to Retrospect 4.3. We have a two-week tape rotation set, using a different tape for each night Monday-Friday. On Friday we do a full backup set, with incrementals during the week. The laptops are on their own backup server set during the day. Sorry about the newbie-type question, but I still don't have the hang of this. :) -- ------ Julia Frizzellhttp://www.netspace.org/~glyneth [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.theblackroad.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 8458071 "Now you see the nature of my wife. She giveth from the left hand of generosity, then puncheth in the face with the right fist of cruel whimsy." -- Ethan Skemp, on Aileen E. Miles -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Odd error message
I've done some reconfiguring of our backups, and I'm getting an error message that I can't find listed anywhere. The error number is -33 (directory full). It also says it can't save the snapshot. I've got tons of disk space (this is a HD file), so I don't think that's the issue, unless somehow the snapshot is so large that it can't save it? Help? -- Julia Frizzell User Consultant/Analyst The Education Alliance Northeast and Islands Regional Educational Laboratory at Brown University 222 Richmond Street, Suite 300 Providence, Rhode Island 02903-4226 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 401.274.9548 x311 or 800.521.9550 x311 401.421.7650 (fax) http://www.lab.brown.edu -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: activator conflict
At 2:29 PM +0200 7/12/00, jakob krabbe wrote: If Retro already has activator codes (in it's prefs or somewhere) that it knows about it will automatically assign a "free" activator code to it. And since you can use a Mac or PC activator code on either platform, it may have given a free "Mac code" to your PC. It's just that the client window is emptey, saying no number... As for the asking for a password to protect the client from being activated by some other Retro user, that is a fairly new thing. Sometimes I like it, sometimes I don't. -- I guess I did something stupid... I thoght I easily could change Activator Code to the clients so an Activator Code could stick to a person rather than to a certan computer. We bought a new G4 to Jan. Jan's G3 went to Maria and Maria's desktop G3 is now the Retrospect server. I intended to move Jan's Activaor Code to the new G4, set Jan's old computer to the Activator Code of Maria and have no activator code at the server. But I kept reciveing "Activator Conflict" and I tried to Forget the G4, but when I tried to log it on again a new error occurred, I was asked for a security code!! Since there are so many codes everywhere I tend to have the same code on all places but none of them worked this time. It was 18 months since I installed that client... 1. Can I remove the activator code at the server? 2. Can I change the activator code at a client? Sometimes I like it, sometimes I don't. Right now I don't like this feature! ;-) (To be honest, I must have missed something because I see no point in haveing it.) Actually, I think this (activator codes) is a *great* feature! And one of the reasons I upgraded from 4.0 to 4.2. What you have to do is think about it in reverse -- there shouldn't BE anymore activator code conflicts (yay!) because Retrospect handles all the codes in the program. It knows how many licenses you have available, and knows how many clients you have on your system. I do still have more than half of my clients with an activator code, but when I add a new one or do a reconfigure on an old, I'm constantly upgrading the client to TCP/IP (most are on AppleTalk) and letting Retrospect handle the codes. We've always had a password feature (IIRC) here, so I'm not sure what the problem is. The password just keeps things secure between the server and the client. You only use it when installing the client, and then when you log in the first time from the server. Otherwise, no biggie. ------ Julia Frizzell User Consultant/Analyst The Education Alliance Northeast and Islands Regional Educational Laboratory at Brown University 222 Richmond Street, Suite 300 Providence, Rhode Island 02903-4226 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 401.274.9548 x311 or 800.521.9550 x311 401.421.7650 (fax) http://www.lab.brown.edu -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Backup empty folders
At 9:17 AM +0200 7/10/00, Jean-Yves Berthet wrote: Hello, I am using Retrospect server 4.1A (FR) for Macintosh. Why Retrospect does not backup empty folders ? Here's Matthew's response from a few weeks ago: At 4:30 PM -0700 6/19/00, Matthew Tevenan wrote: The following is from the Retrospect common questions from the Dantz website: How do I restore empty folders without restoring the entire hard disk? Go to ImmediateRestore and in the dialog which follows, select "Restore an entire disk" (the top radio button). Then select the source backup set and Snapshot. At the destination window, select your target volume and, from the pop-up menu, choose any restore method other than "Retrieve just files." In the files chosen Browser, double-click either the root of the source volume or an entire enclosing folder which contains empty folders. Empty folders will be highlighted but not marked. When you execute the restore, all the enclosed empty folders will be restored. No other combination of restore types or file selection will restore any empty folders. Be very careful when restoring. If you choose "Restore entire" or "Replace corresponding files" in the restore method pop-up menu, Retrospect will replace and/or delete files on the destination volume. Please call us if you have any further questions about how to do this. Regards, Matthew Tevenan Technical Support Specialist Dantz Development Corporation 925.253.3050 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Powerbook dials internet once an hour?
I recently set up a backup server for a friend with a small network. There is no internet access device on the network; instead 2 macs (one pbook, one iMac) dial in thru built-in modems. I created a new TCP/IP configuration (w/static addresses) for ethernet so that Retrospect could backup via TCP/IP, and it all works. But it created a clunky scenario for the 2 internet macs, where the users have to switch TCP/IP configurations constantly (one for ethernet, one for PPP/internet). Now they're telling me that ever since I did the setup, the powerbook dials the internet once an hour. Is this because the retrospect client is forcing a network lookup? Is there anything I should have done differently? -- In TCP/IP, is Load Only When Needed checked? You'll have to be in the Advanced User Mode or Admin to see this option, it's under the Options button you'll see once that's setup. I'll leave it to the Dantz folks to respond to the Retrospect end. :) --- Julia Frizzell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.netspace.org/~glyneth http://www.theblackroad.org "Insert pithy quote here." -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: machine unresponsive after backup
At 9:30 AM -0500 6/12/00, Gary R. Bernstein wrote: I can't pinpoint this problem and I hope maybe one of you have seen it. I have about 100 G3 or imac computers and this problem is only affecting 1 Blue and White G3. The scenario is that the user puts the computer in Shutdown mode and leaves the computer with the bouncing retrospect logo running. The computer gets backed up with a script set to not shutdown the computer. The next morning the user comes in and the retrospect logo is still bouncing (which is correct), but the mouse and keyboard are unresponsive. We have to pull the plug or hit the power switch to reboot, then the user gets the "you didn't shut me down properly" message. Any ideas on why the keyboard and mouse become unresponsive. I have tried having retrospect shutdown the computer with a shutdown script, but that seems to crash the computer as well. Are you using a USB keyboard and mouse? The BW G3s can use ADB as well. I'd suggest trying one of those keyboards if you've got USB on it now, and see if it has the same problem. We had problems here with Macally keyboards and mice becoming unresponsive after being left alone for a time. Had to unplug and replug the device back in for it to be functional again. That's also another solution. :) Good luck! ------ Julia Frizzell User Consultant/Analyst The Education Alliance Northeast and Islands Regional Educational Laboratory at Brown University 222 Richmond Street, Suite 300 Providence, Rhode Island 02903-4226 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 401.274.9548 x311 or 800.521.9550 x311 401.421.7650 (fax) http://www.lab.brown.edu -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Duplicating volumes
I tried to use the duplicate volume command but it won't duplicate a volume on the same machine?? I have two drives in my servers and planned on just using the duplicate command but retrospect won't allow it. Is there another way or am I looking to another program? Are you trying to clone a computer using Retrospect? If so, I'd suggest an alternative. You can use Apple's Apple Software Restore program to do the same thing. Contact me off-list for more info. I went to an Apple seminar on this (for higher ed, but probably useful to more folks that just that) and it seems to work pretty well. --- Julia Frizzell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.netspace.org/~glyneth http://www.theblackroad.org "Insert pithy quote here." -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Backup Server Questions
I am testing using Retrospect as a backup server during the day, to back up our laptops so that those who use them won't have to leave them overnight (when our regular backup script goes into operation). We're testing it this week with a few of the laptop users, before trying to put it into full effect. And I've run into one possible snag. One of our more sophisticated users was backed up in the morning, and then restarted his computer in order to attach an external zip drive to it, he was prompted to be backed up again. Would this be because he restarted the computer after the backup? Or perhaps because he added another volume to his desktop (the zip disk)? Or was it just a fluke? Thanks in advance! -- Julia Frizzell User Consultant/Analyst The Education Alliance Northeast and Islands Regional Educational Laboratory at Brown University 222 Richmond Street, Suite 300 Providence, Rhode Island 02903-4226 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 401.274.9548 x311 or 800.521.9550 x311 401.421.7650 (fax) http://www.lab.brown.edu -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
