Re: CS>Distilled water

[Ode Coyote]

If the LED shifts from green to red and back, it's doing its' job  of
switching polarity.
The wire will NOT stay shiny over time due to pitting and reformed silver
dust on the surface...but that isn't "crud" and needn't be disturbed..

If you press the button for 5 seconds, it will run in DC mode and you'll
get black crud on one side and white frothy crud on the other.
The older gen has a switch to run in DC mode.

Ode

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 1:31 PM Jean Baugh 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Now that I think about it, this never happened in the beginning, for
> years, so maybe the machine is breaking down.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Jean
>
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 11:29 AM Kirsteen Wright <
> kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have the silverpuppy and I've never done more than wipe the wires down
>> with a soft cloth. I've never had any crud in the 6 or 7 years I've been
>> using it. It automatically keeps switching polarity.
>>
>> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021, 16:21 Marshall,  wrote:
>>
>>> If you reverse the polarity on the wires every now and then, it will not
>>> build up any crud at all.
>>>
>>> Marshall
>>>
>>> On 3/25/2021 5:00 PM, Jean Baugh wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> 'NICE' brand of distilled water from Walgreens now says the water is
>>> sourced from wells or municipal water.
>>>
>>> I've found a way to stop the crud buildup on the silver wires and that
>>> is to use a Scotch Brite scrubber pad to clean the wires.
>>>
>>> Jean
>>>
>>>
>>>

Re: CS>Distilled water

[Rick]

My CS making kit came with a copper scrunchy specifically to clean the
silver rods after each batch.


On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 5:00 PM Jean Baugh 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> 'NICE' brand of distilled water from Walgreens now says the water is
> sourced from wells or municipal water.
>
> I've found a way to stop the crud buildup on the silver wires and that is
> to use a Scotch Brite scrubber pad to clean the wires.
>
> Jean
>

Re: CS>Distilled water

[Jean Baugh]

Hi,

Now that I think about it, this never happened in the beginning, for years,
so maybe the machine is breaking down.

Thank you,

Jean

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 11:29 AM Kirsteen Wright <
kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have the silverpuppy and I've never done more than wipe the wires down
> with a soft cloth. I've never had any crud in the 6 or 7 years I've been
> using it. It automatically keeps switching polarity.
>
> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021, 16:21 Marshall,  wrote:
>
>> If you reverse the polarity on the wires every now and then, it will not
>> build up any crud at all.
>>
>> Marshall
>>
>> On 3/25/2021 5:00 PM, Jean Baugh wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> 'NICE' brand of distilled water from Walgreens now says the water is
>> sourced from wells or municipal water.
>>
>> I've found a way to stop the crud buildup on the silver wires and that is
>> to use a Scotch Brite scrubber pad to clean the wires.
>>
>> Jean
>>
>>
>>

Re: CS>Distilled water

[Kirsteen Wright]

I have the silverpuppy and I've never done more than wipe the wires down
with a soft cloth. I've never had any crud in the 6 or 7 years I've been
using it. It automatically keeps switching polarity.

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021, 16:21 Marshall,  wrote:

> If you reverse the polarity on the wires every now and then, it will not
> build up any crud at all.
>
> Marshall
>
> On 3/25/2021 5:00 PM, Jean Baugh wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> 'NICE' brand of distilled water from Walgreens now says the water is
> sourced from wells or municipal water.
>
> I've found a way to stop the crud buildup on the silver wires and that is
> to use a Scotch Brite scrubber pad to clean the wires.
>
> Jean
>
>
>

Re: CS>Distilled water

[Marshall]

If you reverse the polarity on the wires every now and then, it will not 
build up any crud at all.


Marshall

On 3/25/2021 5:00 PM, Jean Baugh wrote:

Hi,

'NICE' brand of distilled water from Walgreens now says the water is 
sourced from wells or municipal water.


I've found a way to stop the crud buildup on the silver wires and that 
is to use a Scotch Brite scrubber pad to clean the wires.


Jean

Re: CS>distilled water

[phoenix23...@tds.net]

Well, that answers that question..lol.   Makes sense.  Thank you, John.
Lola
- Original Message -
From: jpopelish . <jpopel...@gmail.com>
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, 19 May 2016 20:45:54 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: CS>distilled water


On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 5:07 PM, phoenix23...@tds.net<phoenix23...@tds.net> 
wrote:
I am just 'blue-skying' here but... what about those water filters called 
'Zero' filters?  Could one of those be used to filter
distilled water to help remove any undesirables or would it add TDS amounts?
I know zip-doo-dah about distilled watersand/or filters.  Just wondering.Lola
​An ion exchange filter removes minerals and replaces them with water, 
so they are a good part of preparing water for your distiller (it will stay a 
lot cleaner).  
But they also greatly reduce the conductivity (TDS) of tap water, 
if you can't find distilled water to make CS.​
-- 
Regards,

John Popelish

Re: CS>distilled water

[jpopelish .]

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 5:07 PM, phoenix23...@tds.net 
wrote:

> I am just 'blue-skying' here but... what about those water filters called
> 'Zero' filters?  Could one of those be used to filter
> distilled water to help remove any undesirables or would it add TDS
> amounts?I know zip-doo-dah about distilled waters
> and/or filters.  Just wondering.
> Lola
>

​An ion exchange filter removes minerals and replaces them with water,
so they are a good part of preparing water for your distiller (it will stay
a lot cleaner).
But they also greatly reduce the conductivity (TDS) of tap water,
if you can't find distilled water to make CS.​


-- 
Regards,

John Popelish

Re: CS>distilled water

[Jerry Durand]

We were just out shopping and my wife pointed out the "Water Store" next
to where we often shop.  Went in and distilled water is $0.70/gallon in
your own container.  We just bought three gallons of the Walmart water
at $1.07/gallon ($0.88 + California bottle charge).  Next time we go
shopping I'll take my TDS meter and a small cup and ask to test their
water.  Might check around your area for water stores.

-- 
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Re: CS>distilled water

[phoenix23...@tds.net]

I am just 'blue-skying' here but... what about those water filters called 
'Zero' filters?  Could one of those be used to filter
distilled water to help remove any undesirables or would it add TDS amounts?
I know zip-doo-dah about distilled waters and/or filters.  Just wondering.Lola 
- Original Message -
From: Jean Baugh 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, 19 May 2016 16:48:11 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: CS>distilled water

Hi,
What happened with Great Value/Wal-Mart distilled water was, it worked great in 
the CS machine but then I got a whiff of overwhelmingly offensive odor.  I have 
no idea how long this had been going on but it was enough to make me stop in my 
tracks.  I decided to go ahead and make another batch of CS but it too stank to 
high heaven.  I have never used another gallon of Great Value distilled water.  
All the gallons of distilled water and the new batch of CS were tossed.  The 
odor was in the plastic jugs.  Out of curiosity, am I the only one who has 
noticed this?
I think you all are right, when you find a good source of distilled water, stay 
with it.  In this case it will be Walgreens even if I have to pay triple.
Interesting thought that if distilled water was unavailable, rain water would 
probably work fine.  
Thank you,
Jean


 I agree. I have a TT distiller and find that I am much better off
 buying the DW.


 As I recall Jean got a bad batch from Walmart. I get "Great Value"
 distilled water there - steam D, microfil & ozonation with never
 a bad gallon. I have had a bad Arrowhead brand from Groc. store.

Might be worth trying Walmart again.


 Ron

On 5/19/2016 2:17 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:
Lots of people seem to like the "Love" table top
 distillers.


 Distillers require maintenance and you will run into the
 same circumstances as the commercial distillers.


 Source water counts.
 Minerals build up  
Boil over contaminates coils.
Volatiles come through first.

Rain water is natures purest as it is distilled by
 nature..but comes out of a dirty container that should be well
 rinsed before using. [Let it rain a while before collecting]


 Ode

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 9:14 PM, Jean
 Baugh 
 wrote:
Hi,
I called the toll free phone number of Clover Valley
 distilled water, last Friday but no answer nor a machine
 message.  I called back on Monday and asked if they were
 EST;  the man laughed and said, No, this is the
 Philippines.  He transferred me to their water expert
 but no answer and no message.
I called back a second time later to be conveyed to
 their water expert, Amanda Cannon but again, no
 response.
A forth and last time I told them I suggested they
 fire their water expert because no one answers and there
 is no message.  They excused themselves twice and found
 out the same thing.  The man asked what information I
 wanted about their distilled water and was told the two
 questions.  He said they would contact me by email.
Looking at the Walgreens distilled water label, I’ve
 decided it is harder to acquire but possibly worth it. 
 The brand is: 'NICE! distilled water distributed by
 Walgreens.  Purified by steam distillation, micro
 filtered and ozonated to ensure quality, bottled by
 Magic Mountain Water Co, LLC.  Source from a pure deep
 well in Shrevesport, LA’.
I’m going to look at the steam distillers again.  Has
 anyone bought a steam distiller and been satisfied with
 it.  If so, could you please tell us the brand and any
 other information?
Thank you,
Jean

Re: CS>Re: cs distilled water

[PT Ferrance]

I'm happy with mine, a countertop steam distiller but it takes about 3 hours 
time and when I'm busy I find it simpler to purchase Walgreens Nice brand.PT




  From: Ron <ron@gmail.com>
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 8:47 AM
 Subject: CS>Re: cs distilled water
   
  I agree. I have a TT distiller and find that I am much better off buying the 
DW.
 
 As I recall Jean got a bad batch from Walmart. I get "Great Value" distilled 
water there - steam D, microfil & ozonation with never a bad gallon. I have had 
a bad Arrowhead brand from Groc. store.
 Might be worth trying Walmart again.
 
 Ron
 
 On 5/19/2016 2:17 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:
  
Lots of people seem to like the "Love" table top distillers.
 
  Distillers require maintenance and you will run into the same circumstances 
as the commercial distillers.
 
  Source water counts.
   Minerals build up  
  Boil over contaminates coils.
  Volatiles come through first.
 
  Rain water is natures purest as it is distilled by nature..but comes out of a 
dirty container that should be well rinsed before using. [Let it rain a while 
before collecting]
  
  Ode
  
 On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 9:14 PM, Jean Baugh <oldgloryte...@srcaccess.net> 
wrote:
 
  Hi, 
  I called the toll free phone number of Clover Valley distilled water, last 
Friday but no answer nor a machine message.  I called back on Monday and asked 
if they were EST;  the man laughed and said, No, this is the Philippines.  He 
transferred me to their water expert but no answer and no message. 
  I called back a second time later to be conveyed to their water expert, 
Amanda Cannon but again, no response. 
  A forth and last time I told them I suggested they fire their water expert 
because no one answers and there is no message.  They excused themselves twice 
and found out the same thing.  The man asked what information I wanted about 
their distilled water and was told the two questions.  He said they would 
contact me by email. 
  Looking at the Walgreens distilled water label, I’ve decided it is harder to 
acquire but possibly worth it.  The brand is: 'NICE! distilled water 
distributed by Walgreens.  Purified by steam distillation, micro filtered and 
ozonated to ensure quality, bottled by Magic Mountain Water Co, LLC.  Source 
from a pure deep well in Shrevesport, LA’. 
  I’m going to look at the steam distillers again.  Has anyone bought a steam 
distiller and been satisfied with it.  If so, could you please tell us the 
brand and any other information? 
  Thank you, 
  Jean  
  
  
 

  

CS>Re: cs distilled water

[Ron]

I agree. I have a TT distiller and find that I am much better off buying 
the DW.


As I recall Jean got a bad batch from Walmart. I get "Great Value" 
distilled water there - steam D, microfil & ozonation with never a bad 
gallon. I have had a bad Arrowhead brand from Groc. store.

Might be worth trying Walmart again.

Ron

On 5/19/2016 2:17 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:

Lots of people seem to like the "Love" table top distillers.

Distillers require maintenance and you will run into the same 
circumstances as the commercial distillers.


Source water counts.
 Minerals build up
Boil over contaminates coils.
Volatiles come through first.

Rain water is natures purest as it is distilled by nature..but comes 
out of a dirty container that should be well rinsed before using. [Let 
it rain a while before collecting]


Ode

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 9:14 PM, Jean Baugh 
> wrote:


Hi,

I called the toll free phone number of Clover Valley distilled
water, last Friday but no answer nor a machine message.  I called
back on Monday and asked if they were EST;  the man laughed and
said, No, this is the Philippines.  He transferred me to their
water expert but no answer and no message.

I called back a second time later to be conveyed to their water
expert, Amanda Cannon but again, no response.

A forth and last time I told them I suggested they fire their
water expert because no one answers and there is no message.  They
excused themselves twice and found out the same thing.  The man
asked what information I wanted about their distilled water and
was told the two questions.  He said they would contact me by email.

Looking at the Walgreens distilled water label, I’ve decided it is
harder to acquire but possibly worth it. The brand is: 'NICE!
distilled water distributed by Walgreens.  Purified by steam
distillation, micro filtered and ozonated to ensure quality,
bottled by Magic Mountain Water Co, LLC.  Source from a pure deep
well in Shrevesport, LA’.

I’m going to look at the steam distillers again.  Has anyone
bought a steam distiller and been satisfied with it.  If so, could
you please tell us the brand and any other information?

Thank you,

Jean

Re: CS>Distilled water

[Ode Coyote]

Lots of people seem to like the "Love" table top distillers.

Distillers require maintenance and you will run into the same circumstances
as the commercial distillers.

Source water counts.
 Minerals build up
Boil over contaminates coils.
Volatiles come through first.

Rain water is natures purest as it is distilled by nature..but comes out of
a dirty container that should be well rinsed before using. [Let it rain a
while before collecting]

Ode

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 9:14 PM, Jean Baugh 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I called the toll free phone number of Clover Valley distilled water, last
> Friday but no answer nor a machine message.  I called back on Monday and
> asked if they were EST;  the man laughed and said, No, this is the
> Philippines.  He transferred me to their water expert but no answer and no
> message.
>
> I called back a second time later to be conveyed to their water expert,
> Amanda Cannon but again, no response.
>
> A forth and last time I told them I suggested they fire their water expert
> because no one answers and there is no message.  They excused themselves
> twice and found out the same thing.  The man asked what information I
> wanted about their distilled water and was told the two questions.  He said
> they would contact me by email.
>
> Looking at the Walgreens distilled water label, I’ve decided it is harder
> to acquire but possibly worth it.  The brand is: 'NICE! distilled water
> distributed by Walgreens.  Purified by steam distillation, micro filtered
> and ozonated to ensure quality, bottled by Magic Mountain Water Co, LLC.
> Source from a pure deep well in Shrevesport, LA’.
>
> I’m going to look at the steam distillers again.  Has anyone bought a
> steam distiller and been satisfied with it.  If so, could you please tell
> us the brand and any other information?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Jean
>

Re: CS>Distilled water

[Lena Guyot]

I'd stopped nuking food quite a while ago, but still nuked water for 
convenience, UNTIL I saw photos of ice crystals of microwaved water compared to 
crystals from normal water, in the book:
The Hidden Messages in Water by Masaru Emoto and David A. Thayne 

The crystals were so hideously deformed that I just knew I didn't want my tea, 
coffee, soup, kombucha, etc. made with that stuff ever again.

Be well,

Léna 





On May 13, 2016, at 4:41 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:


> So you nuke your distilled water?  You might want to do some research about 
> what microwaving does to even water.
> PT
> 
> 
> 
> From: Jerry Durand <jdur...@interstellar.com>
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 4:06 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>Distilled water
> 
> The bottled water I get is charged with ozone to keep out bacteria.  As per 
> Silver Puppy instructions, I heat it in the microwave and then let it cool to 
> drive off the dissolved gases.
> 
> On 05/13/2016 12:31 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:
>> Have you considered letting it sit to breath and off-gas before using it?
>> Also, contacting Clover Valley and letting them know about the odor?  
>> Just a couple of thoughts.
>> PT
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.  http://interstellar.com
> tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886
> 
> 
> 

Re: CS>Distilled water

[PT Ferrance]

So you nuke your distilled water?  You might want to do some research about 
what microwaving does to even water.
PT



  From: Jerry Durand <jdur...@interstellar.com>
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 4:06 PM
 Subject: Re: CS>Distilled water
   
 The bottled water I get is charged with ozone to keep out bacteria.  As per 
Silver Puppy instructions, I heat it in the microwave and then let it cool to 
drive off the dissolved gases.
 
 On 05/13/2016 12:31 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:
  
  Have you considered letting it sit to breath and off-gas before using it? 
Also, contacting Clover Valley and letting them know about the odor?  
  Just a couple of thoughts. PT
   
  
 
 -- 
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.  http://interstellar.com
tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886

 

  

Re: CS>Distilled water

[Jerry Durand]

The bottled water I get is charged with ozone to keep out bacteria.  As
per Silver Puppy instructions, I heat it in the microwave and then let
it cool to drive off the dissolved gases.

On 05/13/2016 12:31 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:
> Have you considered letting it sit to breath and off-gas before using it?
> Also, contacting Clover Valley and letting them know about the odor? 
> Just a couple of thoughts.
> PT
>

-- 
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tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886

Re: CS>Distilled water

[PT Ferrance]

Have you considered letting it sit to breath and off-gas before using it?Also, 
contacting Clover Valley and letting them know about the odor?  
Just a couple of thoughts.PT



  From: Jean Baugh 
 To: "silver-list@eskimo.com"  
 Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 3:10 PM
 Subject: CS>Distilled water
   
Hi,
I found out the store within 35 miles round trip was actually named Dollar 
General and their distilled water is by Clover Valley.
Bought one gallon and when I got home, sniffed the opened bottle.  There was 
just a hint of offensive odor but it wasn’t overt, all but undetectable, so 
started a new batch of colloidal silver.  The SilverGen worked fine with this 
new distilled water.
Thanks!
Jean
**

  

Re: CS>Distilled water

[cassidy]

We need to test the water... all distilled water is not good.  I had bad 
silver a few times and it was the distilled water.


On 5/11/2016 9:14 PM, Jerry Durand wrote:
Most of the distilled water in stores is now made by the same company, 
it also owns several of the bottled water companies. Choice is 
something from the past. 



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Re: CS>Distilled water

[Jerry Durand]

Most of the distilled water in stores is now made by the same company, 
it also owns several of the bottled water companies. Choice is something 
from the past.


On 05/11/2016 07:03 PM, Jean Baugh wrote:

Hi,

Thank you so much for the information.  We actually do have a Dollar Store
within driving distance.  All it has to do is pass the smell test and I
will report back on this.

Never would have thought about this store having distilled water.

Jean




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Re: CS>Distilled water

[cassidy]

I found Sprouts to have good distilled water.  used to be Walgreens, but 
Sprouts is better.  will ck out dollar store .. tks


On 5/11/2016 6:51 PM, maj.yo...@ellijay.com wrote:
the ‘dollar store’ here has the lowest ppm tested of all the ones I 
tested,,$1.00 a gal... 



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Re: CS>Distilled water

[maj.young]

the ‘dollar store’ here has the lowest ppm tested of all the ones I 
tested,,$1.00 a gal...


From: PT Ferrance
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 5:25 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Distilled water

That's what I did, Jean.
Do your research and be careful because there are a lot of scams in the 
distilling business.  I wanted a glass pitcher and a stainless steel pot. 
Another important thing is the ease with which you can take the fan apart 
for cleaning.

Good luck
PT

Rev. PT Ferrance, L.Ac.


From: Jean Baugh <oldgloryte...@srcaccess.net>
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" <silver-list@eskimo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 3:47 PM
Subject: CS>Distilled water


Hi,

I found all distilled water is not the same.  One business sold distilled 
water that wouldn’t work with the SilverGen.  Then I found Wal-Mart 
distilled water would work but it has a horrible perfume chemical smell to 
it.  Trem suggested Wal-Greens and it is fine.


However, it is a 130 mile round trip to buy this distilled water so I’m 
curious if anyone has any knowledge about a distilled water machine that 
costs around $200.00 (two hundred), by the name of Countertop Water 
Distiller.  The link is: 
http://www.waterdistillersdirect.com/countertop-water-distillers/


Thank you,

Jean



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Re: CS>Distilled water

[PT Ferrance]

That's what I did, Jean.Do your research and be careful because there are a lot 
of scams in the distilling business.  I wanted a glass pitcher and a stainless 
steel pot.  Another important thing is the ease with which you can take the fan 
apart for cleaning.  
Good luck
PT Rev. PT Ferrance, L.Ac.

  From: Jean Baugh 
 To: "silver-list@eskimo.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 3:47 PM
 Subject: CS>Distilled water
   
Hi,
I found all distilled water is not the same.  One business sold distilled water 
that wouldn’t work with the SilverGen.  Then I found Wal-Mart distilled water 
would work but it has a horrible perfume chemical smell to it.  Trem suggested 
Wal-Greens and it is fine.
However, it is a 130 mile round trip to buy this distilled water so I’m curious 
if anyone has any knowledge about a distilled water machine that costs around 
$200.00 (two hundred), by the name of Countertop Water Distiller.  The link is: 
http://www.waterdistillersdirect.com/countertop-water-distillers/
Thank you,
Jean

  

Re: CS>Distilled water

[Sandee George]

Hi There Jean I have owned and used one for the past twelve years and it is 
still going very well - have fun with yours if you decide to go ahead and get 
it - you could do much much worse !!!
Peace, love and hugs
Sandee
An Attitude of Gratitude is everything !!!
Sandra George
Colloidal Silver Products
Eye Drops & Topical Gel
aliveagai...@yahoo.com




On 11 May 2016, at 3:47 pm, Jean Baugh  wrote:

Hi,

I found all distilled water is not the same.  One business sold distilled water 
that wouldn’t work with the SilverGen.  Then I found Wal-Mart distilled water 
would work but it has a horrible perfume chemical smell to it.  Trem suggested 
Wal-Greens and it is fine.

However, it is a 130 mile round trip to buy this distilled water so I’m curious 
if anyone has any knowledge about a distilled water machine that costs around 
$200.00 (two hundred), by the name of Countertop Water Distiller.  The link is: 
http://www.waterdistillersdirect.com/countertop-water-distillers/

Thank you,

Jean


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Re: CS Distilled Water of .000

[Marshall Dudley]

 On 10/2/2010 9:01 PM, Neville Munn wrote:

Thanks very much for that Marshall, much appreciated.

On re-reading my comments I did notice two oversights on my part, I 
forgot about the accuracy % factor in meters, and I overlooked the 
stupidly simple uS and TDS equivalent or conversion, sorry about 
that.  My constant oversights of the simple and obvious are quite 
frustrating at times.


A final comment if you will, as your closing comment was significant 
to a thought which has been rattling around in my head for some 
time...endothermics.


I've considered for some time that the action of ions colliding in an 
aqueous solution must generate some form of energy as they break 
through that energy barrier or Nernst or double layer surrounding the 
ion, and the result of those impacts could only generate one form of 
energy...heat.  It would not be the actual impact of those ions or 
particles necessarily which generates energy as positive and negative 
simply attract as a natural law of unlike poles attracting, but rather 
it would be the friction created via the *breaking through of that 
energy barrier* which surrounds the ion.  Would that assumption be 
correct?


In the molecular and atomic world motion and heat are different ways of 
expressing the same thing.  So if you consider something forcing its way 
through the energy barrier, that takes energy to do so, and the result 
is a drop in velocity, in some cases to near 0, and a LOSS of heat. That 
is it would tend to be endothermic..  It would take energy to penetrate 
the barrier, and the kinetic energy of the particle or molecule would 
have been converted to potential energy when it does so. Only kinetic 
energy shows up as heat thus thus this would result in a loss of themal 
energy..


Marshall


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RE: CS Distilled Water of .000

[Neville Munn]

Ah Hah!  NOW I begin to understand the world of atoms and molecules a little 
more betterer g.

 

I was under the impression that 'motion' in this context was a reference to 
'velocity', and this is why I thought that due to the 'velocity' of ion or 
molecule movement, combined with the 'G' forces required for penetration of 
that barrier, there would be some 'major' event {at an atomic scale of course, 
and only a 'flash' moment in time} occurring upon impact.

 

Thank you for that simplisitic explanation.

 

N.
 
 Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 11:34:33 -0400
 From: mdud...@king-cart.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CS Distilled Water of .000
 
 On 10/2/2010 9:01 PM, Neville Munn wrote:
  Thanks very much for that Marshall, much appreciated.
 
  On re-reading my comments I did notice two oversights on my part, I 
  forgot about the accuracy % factor in meters, and I overlooked the 
  stupidly simple uS and TDS equivalent or conversion, sorry about 
  that. My constant oversights of the simple and obvious are quite 
  frustrating at times.
 
  A final comment if you will, as your closing comment was significant 
  to a thought which has been rattling around in my head for some 
  time...endothermics.
 
  I've considered for some time that the action of ions colliding in an 
  aqueous solution must generate some form of energy as they break 
  through that energy barrier or Nernst or double layer surrounding the 
  ion, and the result of those impacts could only generate one form of 
  energy...heat. It would not be the actual impact of those ions or 
  particles necessarily which generates energy as positive and negative 
  simply attract as a natural law of unlike poles attracting, but rather 
  it would be the friction created via the *breaking through of that 
  energy barrier* which surrounds the ion. Would that assumption be 
  correct?
 
 In the molecular and atomic world motion and heat are different ways of 
 expressing the same thing. So if you consider something forcing its way 
 through the energy barrier, that takes energy to do so, and the result 
 is a drop in velocity, in some cases to near 0, and a LOSS of heat. That 
 is it would tend to be endothermic.. It would take energy to penetrate 
 the barrier, and the kinetic energy of the particle or molecule would 
 have been converted to potential energy when it does so. Only kinetic 
 energy shows up as heat thus thus this would result in a loss of themal 
 energy..
 
 Marshall
 
 
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RE: CS Distilled Water of .000

[Neville Munn]

Oh, I think I see.  I would have thought that if one meter which has resolution 
increments of '.1' shows a reading *higher* than '1.', then the meter which 
reads in increments of 1 would display 1 instead of 000 when the first meter 
registers higher than 1 initially?  If that's your ...water which is 0.4... 
thing then I'll have to do some reading up.

 

Example:  My records show the Com100uS reading has to exceed 2.6 before the 
ComTDS3 reading moves from 000 to 001ppm.

 

As most meters are set up or calibrated taking a water temperature compensating 
factor into account, would this also have a bearing on the apparant different 
readings from one manufacturers meter to another?  Meaning, not only the 
calibration fluid used, but also the built in temperature compensation may have 
an influence on the reading of a uS meter compared to a ppm or TDS meter as 
stated above?

 

Example:  My records show the ComTDS3 *always* shows a higher water temperature 
of DW straight from the bottle anywhere between 1 to 1.8 degrees compared to 
the Com100uS meter, is the aforesaid an explanation for that?

 

Curiously, after EIS/CS production that temperature difference in the majority 
of cases seems to reduce after the solution has been in storage for a while, 
like down to 1 degree or lower, I find it rather strange that it doesn't remain 
the same difference as it was straight from the bottle.

 

N.
 
 Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 23:14:28 -0400
 From: mdud...@king-cart.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CS Distilled Water of .000
 
 On 10/1/2010 9:16 PM, Neville Munn wrote:
  OK.
 
  Not that I'm overly concerned with meter readings particularly but 
  here are some figures if they are of any value.
 With some of these one could certainly get 0, since they lack the 
 resolution to measure less than 1. For water which is 0.4 of what they 
 are measuring they would measure:
  ..
 
  Com ec/tds/temp...resolution ec 0-99: .1uS, 100-999: 1uS
  #I don't use the tds function.
 0.4
 
  Com tds3...range 0-9990ppm (mg/L)
 0
 
  Hanna tds1...range 0-999ppm (mg/L), resolution 1ppm
 0.
 
 That is why it is so important to know what the resolution is when water 
 is highly non conductive. I do my measurement with a meter that has a 
 resolution of .1 uS, and thus have never seen 0. If I were to use one 
 of the other meters I would see 0 all the time, but they would not 
 really be 0, just lower than the resolution of the instrument.
 
 Marshall
 
  

Re: CS Distilled Water of .000

[Marshall Dudley]

 On 10/2/2010 2:57 AM, Neville Munn wrote:
Oh, I think I see.  I would have thought that if one meter which has 
resolution increments of '.1' shows a reading *higher* than '1.', then 
the meter which reads in increments of 1 would display 1 instead of 
000 when the first meter registers higher than 1 initially?
That is true generally. But when you add in accuracy it might still give 
a zero, if for instance it has an accuracy of .5 and thinks the water is 
reading .4 because it is off .5 on the accuracy.
  If that's your ...water which is 0.4... thing then I'll have to do 
some reading up.


Example:  My records show the Com100uS reading has to exceed 2.6 
before the ComTDS3 reading moves from 000 to 001ppm
That makes sense.  2.6 on uS will be equivalent to 1.3 on the TDS, and 
if the accuracy is no better than .3, than that is quite possible.

.

As most meters are set up or calibrated taking a water temperature 
compensating factor into account, would this also have a bearing on 
the apparant different readings from one manufacturers meter to another? 

It can, that would reflect in the accuracy or precision/repeatability.
Meaning, not only the calibration fluid used, but also the built in 
temperature compensation may have an influence on the reading of a uS 
meter compared to a ppm or TDS meter as stated above?
Yes, the calibration fluid and water being tested need to be at the same 
temperature.


Example:  My records show the ComTDS3 *always* shows a higher water 
temperature of DW straight from the bottle anywhere between 
1 to 1.8 degrees compared to the Com100uS meter, is the aforesaid an 
explanation for that?
A constant offset should not be that significant in being a problem as 
long as both are calibrated and used at the same temperature.


Curiously, after EIS/CS production that temperature difference in the 
majority of cases seems to reduce after the solution has been in 
storage for a while, like down to 1 degree or lower, I find it rather 
strange that it doesn't remain the same difference as it was straight 
from the bottle.
It is quite possible that aggregation is endothermic (in fact if you 
have two particles colliding that stick together, then you will have 
less kinetic motion, and thus possibly a reduction in temperature).


Marshall


N.

 Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 23:14:28 -0400
 From: mdud...@king-cart.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CS Distilled Water of .000

 On 10/1/2010 9:16 PM, Neville Munn wrote:
  OK.
 
  Not that I'm overly concerned with meter readings particularly but
  here are some figures if they are of any value.
 With some of these one could certainly get 0, since they lack the
 resolution to measure less than 1. For water which is 0.4 of what they
 are measuring they would measure:
  ..
 
  Com ec/tds/temp...resolution ec 0-99: .1uS, 100-999: 1uS
  #I don't use the tds function.
 0.4
 
  Com tds3...range 0-9990ppm (mg/L)
 0
 
  Hanna tds1...range 0-999ppm (mg/L), resolution 1ppm
 0.

 That is why it is so important to know what the resolution is when 
water

 is highly non conductive. I do my measurement with a meter that has a
 resolution of .1 uS, and thus have never seen 0. If I were to use one
 of the other meters I would see 0 all the time, but they would not
 really be 0, just lower than the resolution of the instrument.

 Marshall
 



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RE: CS Distilled Water of .000

[Neville Munn]

Thanks very much for that Marshall, much appreciated.

 

On re-reading my comments I did notice two oversights on my part, I forgot 
about the accuracy % factor in meters, and I overlooked the stupidly simple uS 
and TDS equivalent or conversion, sorry about that.  My constant oversights of 
the simple and obvious are quite frustrating at times.

 

A final comment if you will, as your closing comment was significant to a 
thought which has been rattling around in my head for some time...endothermics.

 

I've considered for some time that the action of ions colliding in an aqueous 
solution must generate some form of energy as they break through that energy 
barrier or Nernst or double layer surrounding the ion, and the result of those 
impacts could only generate one form of energy...heat.  It would not be the 
actual impact of those ions or particles necessarily which generates energy as 
positive and negative simply attract as a natural law of unlike poles 
attracting, but rather it would be the friction created via the *breaking 
through of that energy barrier* which surrounds the ion.  Would that assumption 
be correct?

 

N.

 

 
 Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2010 13:11:00 -0400
 From: mdud...@king-cart.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CS Distilled Water of .000
 
 On 10/2/2010 2:57 AM, Neville Munn wrote:
  Oh, I think I see. I would have thought that if one meter which has 
  resolution increments of '.1' shows a reading *higher* than '1.', then 
  the meter which reads in increments of 1 would display 1 instead of 
  000 when the first meter registers higher than 1 initially?
 That is true generally. But when you add in accuracy it might still give 
 a zero, if for instance it has an accuracy of .5 and thinks the water is 
 reading .4 because it is off .5 on the accuracy.
  If that's your ...water which is 0.4... thing then I'll have to do 
  some reading up.
 
  Example: My records show the Com100uS reading has to exceed 2.6 
  before the ComTDS3 reading moves from 000 to 001ppm
 That makes sense. 2.6 on uS will be equivalent to 1.3 on the TDS, and 
 if the accuracy is no better than .3, than that is quite possible.
  .
 
  As most meters are set up or calibrated taking a water temperature 
  compensating factor into account, would this also have a bearing on 
  the apparant different readings from one manufacturers meter to another? 
 It can, that would reflect in the accuracy or precision/repeatability.
  Meaning, not only the calibration fluid used, but also the built in 
  temperature compensation may have an influence on the reading of a uS 
  meter compared to a ppm or TDS meter as stated above?
 Yes, the calibration fluid and water being tested need to be at the same 
 temperature.
 
  Example: My records show the ComTDS3 *always* shows a higher water 
  temperature of DW straight from the bottle anywhere between 
  1 to 1.8 degrees compared to the Com100uS meter, is the aforesaid an 
  explanation for that?
 A constant offset should not be that significant in being a problem as 
 long as both are calibrated and used at the same temperature.
 
  Curiously, after EIS/CS production that temperature difference in the 
  majority of cases seems to reduce after the solution has been in 
  storage for a while, like down to 1 degree or lower, I find it rather 
  strange that it doesn't remain the same difference as it was straight 
  from the bottle.
 It is quite possible that aggregation is endothermic (in fact if you 
 have two particles colliding that stick together, then you will have 
 less kinetic motion, and thus possibly a reduction in temperature).
 
 Marshall
 
  

Re: CS Distilled Water of .000

[Sandee George]

Marshall, the only place I have seen and used distilled water which  
tests on my PWT at .000 was in Australia, Perth to be exact, this  
distilled water is made specifically for those with kidney problems,  
and for the Kidney Foundation.I went to the factory which produces  
it and you should see the machinery they have for making same.   You  
would delight in the factory it is a beauty to be sure, clean as a  
whistle and smooth as a babies bottom

operationally !
Take good care
Regards
Sandee


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RE: CS Distilled Water of .000

[Neville Munn]

I don't use a PWT meter but the Com 100 EC/TDS/TEMP meter has *never* shown 
zero, the Com TDS3 shows zero in practically *every bottle* of DW I've ever 
bought, and the Hanna TDS1 shows zero on the *odd* occasion.  I use El Cheapo 
Black and Gold DW from Foodland, or IGA I think it's now called.

 

N.
 
 From: oha...@juno.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CS Distilled Water of .000
 Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 15:16:20 -0400
 
 Marshall, the only place I have seen and used distilled water which 
 tests on my PWT at .000 was in Australia, Perth to be exact, this 
 distilled water is made specifically for those with kidney problems, 
 and for the Kidney Foundation. I went to the factory which produces 
 it and you should see the machinery they have for making same. You 
 would delight in the factory it is a beauty to be sure, clean as a 
 whistle and smooth as a babies bottom
 operationally !
 Take good care
 Regards
 Sandee
 
 
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Re: CS Distilled Water of .000

[Marshall Dudley]

 Those number don't mean anything to me without researching each of 
them. What is important is the resolution of each.  If the resolution is 
100 uS for instance than anything less than 50, and maybe less than 100 
will register 0.  Since the expected readings should be between .2 and 3 
or so, the meter must be able to measure and display such readings.


Marshall

On 10/1/2010 6:37 PM, Neville Munn wrote:
I don't use a PWT meter but the Com 100 EC/TDS/TEMP meter has *never* 
shown zero, the Com TDS3 shows zero in practically *every bottle* 
of DW I've ever bought, and the Hanna TDS1 shows zero on the *odd* 
occasion.  I use El Cheapo Black and Gold DW from Foodland, or IGA I 
think it's now called.


N.

 From: oha...@juno.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CS Distilled Water of .000
 Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 15:16:20 -0400

 Marshall, the only place I have seen and used distilled water which
 tests on my PWT at .000 was in Australia, Perth to be exact, this
 distilled water is made specifically for those with kidney problems,
 and for the Kidney Foundation. I went to the factory which produces
 it and you should see the machinery they have for making same. You
 would delight in the factory it is a beauty to be sure, clean as a
 whistle and smooth as a babies bottom
 operationally !
 Take good care
 Regards
 Sandee


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RE: CS Distilled Water of .000

[Neville Munn]

OK.

 

Not that I'm overly concerned with meter readings particularly but here are 
some figures if they are of any value...

 

Com ec/tds/temp...resolution ec 0-99: .1uS, 100-999: 1uS

#I don't use the tds function.

 

Com tds3...range 0-9990ppm (mg/L)

 

Hanna tds1...range 0-999ppm (mg/L), resolution 1ppm

 

I haven't written down the accuracy % for each as that's irrelevant to me in my 
kitchen as opposed to laboratory controlled temperature environment.

 

N.
 
 Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 19:09:59 -0400
 From: mdud...@king-cart.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CS Distilled Water of .000
 
 Those number don't mean anything to me without researching each of 
 them. What is important is the resolution of each. If the resolution is 
 100 uS for instance than anything less than 50, and maybe less than 100 
 will register 0. Since the expected readings should be between .2 and 3 
 or so, the meter must be able to measure and display such readings.
 
 Marshall
 
 On 10/1/2010 6:37 PM, Neville Munn wrote:
  I don't use a PWT meter but the Com 100 EC/TDS/TEMP meter has *never* 
  shown zero, the Com TDS3 shows zero in practically *every bottle* 
  of DW I've ever bought, and the Hanna TDS1 shows zero on the *odd* 
  occasion. I use El Cheapo Black and Gold DW from Foodland, or IGA I 
  think it's now called.
 
  N.
 
   From: oha...@juno.com
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   Subject: Re: CS Distilled Water of .000
   Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 15:16:20 -0400
  
   Marshall, the only place I have seen and used distilled water which
   tests on my PWT at .000 was in Australia, Perth to be exact, this
   distilled water is made specifically for those with kidney problems,
   and for the Kidney Foundation. I went to the factory which produces
   it and you should see the machinery they have for making same. You
   would delight in the factory it is a beauty to be sure, clean as a
   whistle and smooth as a babies bottom
   operationally !
   Take good care
   Regards
   Sandee
  
  
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Re: CS Distilled Water of .000

[Marshall Dudley]

 On 10/1/2010 9:16 PM, Neville Munn wrote:

OK.

Not that I'm overly concerned with meter readings particularly but 
here are some figures if they are of any value.
With some of these one could certainly get 0, since they lack the 
resolution to measure less than 1.  For water which is 0.4 of what they 
are measuring they would measure:

..

Com ec/tds/temp...resolution ec 0-99: .1uS, 100-999: 1uS
#I don't use the tds function.

0.4


Com tds3...range 0-9990ppm (mg/L)

0


Hanna tds1...range 0-999ppm (mg/L), resolution 1ppm

0.

That is why it is so important to know what the resolution is when water 
is highly non conductive.  I do my measurement with a meter that has a 
resolution of .1 uS, and thus have never seen 0.  If I were to use one 
of the other meters I would see 0 all the time, but they would not 
really be 0, just lower than the resolution of the instrument.


Marshall


I haven't written down the accuracy % for each as that's irrelevant to 
me in my kitchen as opposed to laboratory controlled temperature 
environment.


N.

 Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 19:09:59 -0400
 From: mdud...@king-cart.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CS Distilled Water of .000

 Those number don't mean anything to me without researching each of
 them. What is important is the resolution of each. If the resolution is
 100 uS for instance than anything less than 50, and maybe less than 100
 will register 0. Since the expected readings should be between .2 and 3
 or so, the meter must be able to measure and display such readings.

 Marshall

 On 10/1/2010 6:37 PM, Neville Munn wrote:
  I don't use a PWT meter but the Com 100 EC/TDS/TEMP meter has *never*
  shown zero, the Com TDS3 shows zero in practically *every bottle*
  of DW I've ever bought, and the Hanna TDS1 shows zero on the *odd*
  occasion. I use El Cheapo Black and Gold DW from Foodland, or IGA I
  think it's now called.
 
  N.
 
   From: oha...@juno.com
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   Subject: Re: CS Distilled Water of .000
   Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 15:16:20 -0400
  
   Marshall, the only place I have seen and used distilled water which
   tests on my PWT at .000 was in Australia, Perth to be exact, this
   distilled water is made specifically for those with kidney problems,
   and for the Kidney Foundation. I went to the factory which produces
   it and you should see the machinery they have for making same. You
   would delight in the factory it is a beauty to be sure, clean as a
   whistle and smooth as a babies bottom
   operationally !
   Take good care
   Regards
   Sandee
  
  
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Re: CS distilled water

[patriot2000]

At 08:37 AM 9/8/2004, you wrote:
Interesting distiller for low
quanities of water for CS 
Bob 
 
http://www.watercone.com/product.html

Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 06:50:30 -0500

Ingenious! Unfortunately, not yet in production for sale? I
saw no prices anywhere in the literature about watercones.
Marlys




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Re: CS Distilled water

[Theodore Corbett]

Hi Larry,
  I work/live in Germany and I just checked 5
different brands of empty distilled water bottles I
have and none have a skull and crossbones on them.
They are VDE 0510 standard and are for household use
to include irons, batteries, fish tanks, humidifiers
and photography to name a few. And I make my CS from
this water.
  There are a few brands that are labeled not for
drinking but they are not the VDE 0510 standard.
Hope this helps.  Theodore
--- larry tankersley la...@webtv.net wrote:
  Dear list... does anyone know if this is true.
 Did you know that
 every bottle of reverse osmosis, distilled, or
 de-ionized water sold in
 Europe contains a skull and crossbones on the label?
 Do you know that
 the European label states that these waters are only
 to be used for
 steam irons and batteries, and not to be given to
 pets? If Europeans
 won't drink these waters or feed them to their pets,
 then do you really
 think it's okay for you to drink them? ..
  The statement comes from a site that is selling
 water treatment
 Gizze's. I've posted two folks I know,one in Prague
 and one in Germany
 and ask them to see if this is true there. If you
 know someone in Europe
 you could ask, or are in Europe and could post back
 to the list, I would
 be most interested to hear from you. Thanks
 
 
 
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Re: CS Distilled water

[Guenter Poelz]

Hi Larry,
here in Germany, I never saw distilled, or de-ionized water labeled like
that (which doesn't mean that it couldn't exist). Might be, very cheap
brands made with dirty apparatus for use only in steam irons could be
labeled like that (as one is warned in trains not to drink their tap water).
Water made by reverse osmosis is not offered in the shops I visit.
Normally the mentioned warning labels should only be used with really
poisonous stuff.

Guenter

larry tankersley schrieb:
Dear list... does anyone know if this is true. Did you know that
   every bottle of reverse osmosis, distilled, or de-ionized water sold in
   Europe contains a skull and crossbones on the label? Do you know that
   the European label states that these waters are only to be used for
   steam irons and batteries, and not to be given to pets? If Europeans
   won't drink these waters or feed them to their pets, then do you really
   think it's okay for you to drink them? ..
The statement comes from a site that is selling water treatment
   Gizze's. I've posted two folks I know,one in Prague and one in Germany
   and ask them to see if this is true there. If you know someone in 
Europe
   you could ask, or are in Europe and could post back to the list, I 
would

   be most interested to hear from you. Thanks
  
  
  
   larry tankersley; Gainesville,Florida USA
  
  
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Re: CS Distilled water

[Jennifer Popp]

Larry, I've posted the question to a list with a high percentage of European
dwellers and the list owner lives in Scotland. I'll let you know what the
response is.

Jenn Popp

Healthy Paws Bones and Raw Food Diet
http://www.healthy-paws.ca
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416-264-1313 / email: i...@healthy-paws.ca


- Original Message -
From: larry tankersley
| Dear list... does anyone know if this is true. Did you know that
| every bottle of reverse osmosis, 



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Re: CS Distilled water

[Roy]

Why not just pop into a Yahoo Europe chat room and ask someone.
They might think you a bit strange, but you'll be long gone by then. :-)

-Original Message-
From: larry tankersley la...@webtv.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, June 15, 2002 5:50 PM
Subject: CS Distilled water


Dear list... does anyone know if this is true. Did you know that
every bottle of reverse osmosis, distilled, or de-ionized water sold in
Europe contains a skull and crossbones on the label? Do you know that
the European label states that these waters are only to be used for
steam irons and batteries, and not to be given to pets? If Europeans
won't drink these waters or feed them to their pets, then do you really
think it's okay for you to drink them? ..
The statement comes from a site that is selling water treatment
Gizze's. I've posted two folks I know,one in Prague and one in Germany
and ask them to see if this is true there. If you know someone in Europe
you could ask, or are in Europe and could post back to the list, I would
be most interested to hear from you. Thanks



larry tankersley; Gainesville,Florida USA


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Re: CS Distilled Water

[Marshall Dudley]

Actually it isn't quite as pure as distilled water.  It can contain dust,
pollen and other materials.  It will usually have a higher content of carbon
dioxide than distilled water, and in industrial areas, it will contain
sulfuric and sulfurous acids, in such large quantities it is often called
acid rain.

Marshall

Ode Coyote wrote:

  Rain water is distilled water.
 ken

 At 01:56 PM 5/24/02 -0400, you wrote:
 Dear List... I get tired of hearing folks repeating what may be nothing
 more than 'urban myths' regarding such things as mineral leaching caused
 by DW,or drinking water with a meal inhibits your ability to digest
 properly,etc.

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Re: CS Distilled Water

[Ode Coyote]

 Rain water is distilled water.
ken

At 01:56 PM 5/24/02 -0400, you wrote:
Dear List... I get tired of hearing folks repeating what may be nothing
more than 'urban myths' regarding such things as mineral leaching caused
by DW,or drinking water with a meal inhibits your ability to digest
properly,etc.


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RE: CS Distilled Water

[James Osbourne, Holmes]

But, it picks up whatever is in the air as it falls, including nitric acid
and lots of other stuff depending on where.

James-Osbourne: Holmes

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From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coy...@alltel.net]
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 6:01 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS Distilled Water

 Rain water is distilled water.
ken

At 01:56 PM 5/24/02 -0400, you wrote:
Dear List... I get tired of hearing folks repeating what may be nothing
more than 'urban myths' regarding such things as mineral leaching caused
by DW,or drinking water with a meal inhibits your ability to digest
properly,etc.


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Re: CS DISTILLED WATER.

[Marshall Dudley]

Gary Green wrote:

 On Saturday, May 11, 2002, at 05:12 AM, larry tankersley wrote:

  In April I attended the SkaSys lecture by Dr. Hans Lechner. This amazing
  technology allows one to successfully harness consciousness as a
  diagnostic and therapeutic tool.

 After reading this sentence I think anyone with two grey cells to rub
 together will hit the delete button.  No credibility what so ever.

What are you saying?  That consciousness can not be a diagnostic or
therapeutic tool?  Are you saying that doctors have no conciousness?  They may
be wrong a lot, but the are also right quite often, and they do diagnosis when
awake normally.

There are many examples of conciousness being a diagnostic tool. Everything
from doctors knowing how to diagnose and interpret their instruments, to
muscle testing, Clarks' diagnostic machine, dreaming what a problem is and
dowsing.  All can be very good diagnostic tools.  Without them nothing would
ever get diagnosed.

Same for therapeutic tools.  Although less often used, it can be quite
powerful.  Everything from cancer patients visualizing their cancers
shrinking, people taking a placebo and getting cured, to Reiki, to Christian
Healing to prayer is using conciousness as a therapeutic tool. The mind is
very powerful, and it can cure just as well as make you sick.

Marshall


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Re: CS DISTILLED WATER.

[Gary Green]

On Saturday, May 11, 2002, at 05:12 AM, larry tankersley wrote:


In April I attended the SkaSys lecture by Dr. Hans Lechner. This amazing
technology allows one to successfully harness consciousness as a
diagnostic and therapeutic tool.


After reading this sentence I think anyone with two grey cells to rub 
together will hit the delete button.  No credibility what so ever.




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