Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

2009-10-14 Thread Martin Freitag
Daniel schrieb:
 Russell wrote:
 I really like the Seamonkey browser and have used it for years. In
 previous SM
 releases I could do a custom install and not install the email feature
 as I
 prefer to use another email client.
 With Seamonkey v2 RC's custom install there's no option to omit the email
 component and now every time I click on an email link in SM it's
 asking me to
 setup my Seamonkey email service.
 How can I get rid of this and have my email open in the application I
 prefer?
 I'm using XP, but assume this issue exists with Vista as well.

 Thanks

 Russell
 
 Russell, it is my understanding that as SeaMonkey Suite includes a
 mailnews agent, SeaMonkey's first mail call will always be to it's
 inbuilt mail agent.
 
 If you've been using just the browser portion of SeaMonkey and getting
 it to call another, separate, mail agent, I'd be interested to here how
 you achieved that!!
He dismissed the mail-part n the Seamonkey setup, it's that easy.
The problem is that Seamonkey 2.0 does not allow that and by default
handles mailto-links internally.

I never tried that and I'm unsure if it works but maybe those
preferences could help Russel:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.protocol-handler.external.(protocol)
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.protocol-handler.app.(protocol)
regards

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Re: SM2.0 RC1 Automatic Updates?

2009-10-14 Thread Juergen Herz
On 2009-10-13 21:50, Gerry Hickman wrote:

  From your answers, I'm guessing fully automatic update is impossible 
 with SM, so maybe I'd pressed a key which dismissed a confirmation dialog.

I didn't test any of this, but have a look into about:config in
app.update. There are two interesting prefs: app.update.mode and
app.update.silent.
See
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Software_Update:Checking_For_Updates#Preference_Controls_and_State
for a description of them. Maybe at least one of them is set non-default
on your installation.

Juergen
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 Release Candidate 1

2009-10-14 Thread Bob Fleischer

NoOp wrote:

On 10/13/2009 01:08 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote:

Bob Fleischer wrote:

Well, I found that the visible difference between my production profile
and the virgin test profile is that I had allow cookies for the
originating website only on the production system (the one that
failed). I confirmed that setting this on the virgin system caused that
site to fail, also. I confirmed that changing the setting to allow all
cookies fixed my production seamonkey rc1 profile, too. So, is the case
closed?


Probably, though that site relying on what at least looks like
third-party cookies seems bad, it's completely their issue if they do so.



However, just out of curiosity, I uninstalled Seamonkey 2 RC1 from the
virgin test system and installed Seamonkey 1.1.18 and found that the
banking web site works properly with either setting of allow cookies...!


Not sure, but we had a number of changes to the cookie subsystem,
possibly also ones that make it more correct or whatever influences this.


Also, why does this setting make a difference between clicking a link to
open in the same window vs. opening in a separate tab or window (which
worked in SM 2 RC1 all along)?


No idea, you probably need to ask the website designers.

Robert Kaiser


I wonder if that was part of the 1.1.x cookies issue that Jens pointed
out in the Disappointed in changes to cookie management SM 1.1.18 vs.
2.0RC1 thread? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=349680#c13
where it was determined that the cookie settings weren't quite working
as advertised.

(crossposts removed)



So, was 1.1 broken, but 2.0 less broken?  Or what?

(The chat at the bugzilla link seems to indicate that blocking 
third-party cookies is an unsolvable problem, possibly differently 
unsolved in 2.0 than in 1.1.  Perhaps it's good that Firefox leaves that 
imperfect setting initially hidden.)


Bob
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Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

2009-10-14 Thread Russell
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:56:19 +0200, Martin Freitag
prof_nosp...@quantentunnel.de wrote:

He dismissed the mail-part n the Seamonkey setup, it's that easy.
The problem is that Seamonkey 2.0 does not allow that and by default
handles mailto-links internally.

Exactly. Previous versions allowed you to install only those parts you wanted
via the Custom install option.  I might have to uninstall the 2.0 beta if an
easy solution isn't there yet.  I really would prefer not to have to muck with
the Registry which seems to be what the following suggests I'd have to do:

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Register_protocol

Perhaps someone will jump in with an easy fix. I do hope the final release
offers the same install flexibility as did the previous versions.

Russell
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Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

2009-10-14 Thread Robert Kaiser

Russell wrote:

Perhaps someone will jump in with an easy fix. I do hope the final release
offers the same install flexibility as did the previous versions.


SeaMonkey 2.x will not allow installing without the mailnews component.

Robert Kaiser
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Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

2009-10-14 Thread J. Weaver Jr.

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Russell wrote:

Perhaps someone will jump in with an easy fix. I do hope the final release
offers the same install flexibility as did the previous versions.


SeaMonkey 2.x will not allow installing without the mailnews component.

Robert Kaiser


Then you will lose at least one customer - my wife, for whom I've been 
doing the Browser only install. She's come to love Seamonkey, but 
she's been using Outlook as a mail client for umphteen years now, and 
won't (and shouldn't have to) change.


Actually, make that _two_ customers, because if I have to find and 
support some other browser-only solution for her, then I'll probably 
change to something else myself, in my never-ending attempt to minimize 
the number of different apps I have to keep track of around here.


Please, PLEASE, reconsider removing the Browser only install option. 
Or please, make sure instructions are available for whatever registry 
hack (ugh) is required to restore that functionality.  -JW

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SeaMonkey 1.1.17 instability

2009-10-14 Thread Bret Busby

Hello.

I am running Ubuntu 8.04, which is the latest LTS version of Ubuntu.

The latest version of SeaMonkey, that is available for this version of 
Ubuntu, from the Ubuntu repository, is SeaMonkey 1.1.17


My experience of this version of SeaMonkey, is that it consistently 
crashes. If I leave one or more browser windows open, and lock the 
computer screen, and walk away, and come back later, SeaMonkey can be 
relied on to have crashed.


From what I understand, with MS Windows 95, that operating system would 

run for 29 days (I think it was), and then it was supposed to crash.

SeaMonkey cannot run for anywhere near that length of time. Sometimes, 
maybe a few hours, sometimes, maybe a day or two, sometimes, if lucky, a 
few days. But, not much longer than that, very often.


With gxine, I found two web sites (one being the 2009 World Masters 
Games web site), that would cause a system crash, every time the web 
site was visited. The other web site is a loony political party web 
site, that I found.


SeaMonkey would open many pop-ups, that I cannot prevent, and then the 
system would crash. One of the pop-ups that was opened, that I saw, 
just before bthe syetm crashed, was gxine.


I removed gxine from the system, and that got rid of the system crash 
problem, from those two web sites.


But, SeaMonkey is still completely unstable, on this computer running 
Ubuntu 8.04.


Does anyone else have this problem?

--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..

So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means.
- Deep Thought,
  Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
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  written by Douglas Adams,
  published by Pan Books, 1992


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Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

2009-10-14 Thread Keith Whaley

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Russell wrote:
Perhaps someone will jump in with an easy fix. I do hope the final 
release offers the same install flexibility as did the

previous versions.



SeaMonkey 2.x will not allow installing without the mailnews component.

Robert Kaiser


FWIW, I don't think it should!
Why have a suite if you only want to use half of it?
There are rational alternatives...

keith whaley
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Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.17 instability

2009-10-14 Thread Bret Busby

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Paul Hartman wrote:



On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote:

Hello.

I am running Ubuntu 8.04, which is the latest LTS version of Ubuntu.

The latest version of SeaMonkey, that is available for this version of
Ubuntu, from the Ubuntu repository, is SeaMonkey 1.1.17

My experience of this version of SeaMonkey, is that it consistently crashes.
If I leave one or more browser windows open, and lock the computer screen,
and walk away, and come back later, SeaMonkey can be relied on to have
crashed.

From what I understand, with MS Windows 95, that operating system would run
for 29 days (I think it was), and then it was supposed to crash.

SeaMonkey cannot run for anywhere near that length of time. Sometimes, maybe
a few hours, sometimes, maybe a day or two, sometimes, if lucky, a few days.
But, not much longer than that, very often.

With gxine, I found two web sites (one being the 2009 World Masters Games
web site), that would cause a system crash, every time the web site was
visited. The other web site is a loony political party web site, that I
found.

SeaMonkey would open many pop-ups, that I cannot prevent, and then the
system would crash. One of the pop-ups that was opened, that I saw, just
before bthe syetm crashed, was gxine.

I removed gxine from the system, and that got rid of the system crash
problem, from those two web sites.

But, SeaMonkey is still completely unstable, on this computer running Ubuntu
8.04.

Does anyone else have this problem?


I don't use Ubuntu but I do use Seamonkey on Linux for hours a day and
the crashes I've experienced are almost always caused by plug-ins. In
my case, I use 64-bit seamonkey and the crashes were almost always
caused by the 32-bit Adobe Flash plug-in, which I was using via
nspluginwrapper. Once the native 64-bit Flash plugin came out that
basically eliminated the crashes. (I've also have Java-related
crashes). If you have gxine opening then it sounds like perhaps
embedded media or plug-in related. I use the gecko-mediaplayer plugin
(as opposed to mplayerplug-in or calling external helper apps) and it
seems to work alright; at least it doesn't crash for me. (I don't use
nspluginwrapper at all now, it's not even installed)

Other causes for crashes I've experienced have been some versions of
KDE4 (where all gtk+ apps crased randomly, perhaps related to my
installed gtk-engines/themes or something)

In general, though, normal everyday use for me is fine and it does not crash.

Are you using 32-bit or 64-bit? Have you tried uninstalling plugins etc?



I am using 32-bit.

I don't have Flash installed (I won't have anything to do with it), and 
I do not have Java enabled for SeaMonkey. I try also to avoid having 
anything to do with Java.


When I leave SeaMonkey running and it crashes, as far as I am aware, it 
is not using any plugins.


Two of the web sites that I access, in one of my browser windows (a 
particular bookmark set includes the two web sites), auto refresh, one 
about every ten minutes, the other, I am not sure of the frequency. I 
have not been able to find how to stop the auto-refreshing and thus how 
to instead use only manual refreshing.


One web site is an online news web site, and the other is a weather 
observation web site. The weather one is the one that auto-refreshes at 
ten minute intervals.


But, that auto-refreshing, should surely not cause the application to 
crash


I use GNOME rather than KDE, although I have KDE applications installed 
(I think that it is a KDE version of solitaire, or patience, that is the 
only one that I can handle; a nice, simple, single card dealing game).


I use the Classic theme for SeaMonkey.

--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..

So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means.
- Deep Thought,
  Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
  The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
  A Trilogy In Four Parts,
  written by Douglas Adams,
  published by Pan Books, 1992


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Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

2009-10-14 Thread David Wilkinson

J. Weaver Jr. wrote:
Then you will lose at least one customer - my wife, for whom I've been 
doing the Browser only install. She's come to love Seamonkey, but 
she's been using Outlook as a mail client for umphteen years now, and 
won't (and shouldn't have to) change.


Actually, make that _two_ customers, because if I have to find and 
support some other browser-only solution for her, then I'll probably 
change to something else myself, in my never-ending attempt to minimize 
the number of different apps I have to keep track of around here.


Please, PLEASE, reconsider removing the Browser only install option. 
Or please, make sure instructions are available for whatever registry 
hack (ugh) is required to restore that functionality.  -JW


No offense, but if you only want the browser component, why don't you just use 
FireFox? Surely, most people use SeaMonkey precisely because it contains 
browser, mail and news (and now RSS) in a single application.


Or is it that you use ChatZilla or Composer? I never use those, so they are not 
important in my decision to use SeaMonkey.


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Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

2009-10-14 Thread J. Weaver Jr.

Keith Whaley wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Russell wrote:
Perhaps someone will jump in with an easy fix. I do hope the final 
release offers the same install flexibility as did the

previous versions.



SeaMonkey 2.x will not allow installing without the mailnews component.

Robert Kaiser


FWIW, I don't think it should!
Why have a suite if you only want to use half of it?
There are rational alternatives...


Because not every user in a group situation will want exactly the same 
thing. As I said before, my wife uses only the browser (which she's very 
happy with, with Outlook as the mail client), while I use the entire 
suite (which _I'm_ very happy with).


It's convenient for me that we're both using Seamonkey, as I can 
parallel updates between our machines, doing the Browser only install 
for her; if her partial usage of the suite is no longer allowed, then 
I'll be switching to something else for _both_ of us, for simplicity's 
sake.  -JW

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Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

2009-10-14 Thread KristleBawl

J. Weaver Jr. wrote:
Then you will lose at least one customer - my wife, for whom I've been 
doing the Browser only install. She's come to love Seamonkey, but 
she's been using Outlook as a mail client for umphteen years now, and 
won't (and shouldn't have to) change.


Actually, make that _two_ customers, because if I have to find and 
support some other browser-only solution for her, then I'll probably 
change to something else myself, in my never-ending attempt to minimize 
the number of different apps I have to keep track of around here.


Please, PLEASE, reconsider removing the Browser only install option. 
Or please, make sure instructions are available for whatever registry 
hack (ugh) is required to restore that functionality.  -JW


Have you tried Firefox lately?  The current version is very stable and 
easily customized, just like the Seamonkey browser.


I first switched from IE8 to Firefox and love it.  Then I tried 
Thunderbird and decided I like it much better than Windows Mail in 
Vista, which is being discontinued in favor of Windows Live Mail.  I'm 
currently considering the pros and cons of switching from Firefox and 
Thunderbird to Seamonkey.


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Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.17 instability

2009-10-14 Thread NoOp
On 10/14/2009 08:58 AM, Bret Busby wrote:
 Hello.
 
 I am running Ubuntu 8.04, which is the latest LTS version of Ubuntu.
 
 The latest version of SeaMonkey, that is available for this version of 
 Ubuntu, from the Ubuntu repository, is SeaMonkey 1.1.17
 
...
 I removed gxine from the system, and that got rid of the system crash 
 problem, from those two web sites.
 
 But, SeaMonkey is still completely unstable, on this computer running 
 Ubuntu 8.04.
 
 Does anyone else have this problem?

You'll need to report those issues here:
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seamonkey/+bugs
https://bugs.launchpad.net/gxine

I recommend downloading SeaMonkey 2.0[1], extract to it's own folder in
your home directory (~/seamonkey) and running from there.

[1] http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.0rc1
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Convert emails to plain text

2009-10-14 Thread Bill Spikowski
Is there a way to convert a large batch of emails (thousands) to a plain text file or something similar? 

I'm looking for a way to allow someone to review these emails without needing to install and use Seamonkey. 


If this method would retain attachments in their original formats, that would 
be even better...
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Re: SM2.0 RC1 Automatic Updates?

2009-10-14 Thread Gerry Hickman

Juergen Herz wrote:


I didn't test any of this, but have a look into about:config in
app.update. There are two interesting prefs: app.update.mode and
app.update.silent.
See
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Software_Update:Checking_For_Updates#Preference_Controls_and_State


Interesting. I did not know about these settings. app.update.silent may 
be able to make it fully automatic.



for a description of them. Maybe at least one of them is set non-default
on your installation.


Unfortunately, I've messed with the prefs in the UI since this happened, 
so I don't know what the settings were last week, but I certainly never 
touched them since moving from SM 1.1 to SM 2.0 and I'd guess the 
profile migrator would have set them to sensible defaults...


Anyway, it's nice to know about these prefs for future.

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Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

2009-10-14 Thread Russell
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:12:13 +0200, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote:

SeaMonkey 2.x will not allow installing without the mailnews component.

That's ok if there's an easy to find preference setting that allows me to not
use it. Netscape also offered an email component that could be ignored if not
needed. I prefer the Seamonkey browser to Firefox and will be very disappointed
to say goodbye to it after so many years of using it.   Before that I used
Netscape and Seamonkey offered a very similar UI with better security.  

I want to continue using another newsreader and am very happy with my email
software (Pegasus) and do not like Firefox compared to Seamonkey.

Let's hope someone comes up with a workaround, or I know a LOT of folks who I've
convinced to use Seamonkey who'll also be looking for another alternative once
v1.18 is no longer an option.

Russell

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Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

2009-10-14 Thread Robert Kaiser

J. Weaver Jr. wrote:

Then you will lose at least one customer - my wife, for whom I've been
doing the Browser only install. She's come to love Seamonkey, but
she's been using Outlook as a mail client for umphteen years now, and
won't (and shouldn't have to) change.


It doesn't mean you need to _use_ the mail component if it's _installed_.

Robert Kaiser
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Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

2009-10-14 Thread Russell
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:17:13 +0200, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote:

It doesn't mean you need to _use_ the mail component if it's _installed_.

Still looking for an easy way to get mailto links in webpages to open with my
usual email programme... so far no luck.

Russell
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facebook focus problem

2009-10-14 Thread Dale DePriest
I am running seamonkey 1.1.18 and using facebook. Recently the box at 
the top of the home screen has started refusing to take focus. The field 
says: What's on your mind. I click in the box and it widens to accept 
input but I cannot type into the box. Any letters I type end up 
selecting other letters on the page.


I can use the comment boxes but not the main one. If I go to my wall 
page it behaves the same. I asked facebook about this problem and they 
suggested I empty cache and cookies. I tried that but it doesn't help. 
This used to work. Anyone know how to fix this?


Dale
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moving email structure.

2009-10-14 Thread Dale DePriest
I am running out of space on my C: drive and I need to move the 
Seamonkey email structure. I moved all kinds of other stuff by changing 
the application default in the registry (lots of stuff and copied the 
entire structure to another drive) but Seamonkey still wants the C 
drive. I use SeaMonkey 1.1.18

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Re: Convert emails to plain text

2009-10-14 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov

Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:33:12 -0400, /Bill Spikowski/:

Is there a way to convert a large batch of emails (thousands) to a plain 
text file or something similar?
I'm looking for a way to allow someone to review these emails without 
needing to install and use Seamonkey.
If this method would retain attachments in their original formats, that 
would be even better...


I'm not sure SeaMonkey and/or your computer could handle a batch of 
thousand emails this way, but if it is applicable for you to break 
the batch into smaller size batches (say hundred emails per batch) - 
you could try the following:


  * Compose a new message;
  * Select a batch of messages into the thread pane and drag them 
into the Attachments area of your new message composition;

  * Save the the message as a draft and close the composition;
  * Select the saved draft and make sure you have Display 
Attachments Inine enabled;
  * Hit Reply and you should get a new message with all attached 
messages quoted inline its content (you may copy and paste it to a 
text file).


For the last step I've first tried to use Forward - Inline to 
avoid the quote markers, but then the message attachments stayed as 
such in the new message.  I guess one could easily post process the 
result to remove leading  or   from every line.


Note, the size of a batch SeaMonkey and your computer could handle 
this way greatly depends on the size of the messages involved.


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Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

2009-10-14 Thread Robert Kaiser

Russell wrote:

I want to continue using another newsreader and am very happy with my email
software (Pegasus) and do not like Firefox compared to Seamonkey.


We should make it easy to use other news readers from all I know, as for 
the mail things, I need to defer to people knowing more about that than 
I do.


Robert Kaiser
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Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

2009-10-14 Thread NoOp
On 10/13/2009 11:56 PM, Martin Freitag wrote:
 Daniel schrieb:
 Russell wrote:
 I really like the Seamonkey browser and have used it for years. In
 previous SM
 releases I could do a custom install and not install the email feature
 as I
 prefer to use another email client.
 With Seamonkey v2 RC's custom install there's no option to omit the email
 component and now every time I click on an email link in SM it's
 asking me to
 setup my Seamonkey email service.
 How can I get rid of this and have my email open in the application I
 prefer?
 I'm using XP, but assume this issue exists with Vista as well.

 Thanks

 Russell
 
 Russell, it is my understanding that as SeaMonkey Suite includes a
 mailnews agent, SeaMonkey's first mail call will always be to it's
 inbuilt mail agent.
 
 If you've been using just the browser portion of SeaMonkey and getting
 it to call another, separate, mail agent, I'd be interested to here how
 you achieved that!!
 He dismissed the mail-part n the Seamonkey setup, it's that easy.
 The problem is that Seamonkey 2.0 does not allow that and by default
 handles mailto-links internally.
 
 I never tried that and I'm unsure if it works but maybe those
 preferences could help Russel:
 http://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.protocol-handler.external.(protocol)
 http://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.protocol-handler.app.(protocol)
 regards
 
 Martin

I just tested on a Win2KPro VM  I see what Russell is referring to. In
the test profile I've not set up the email client (2.0rc1) and to test I
also set MS Outlook in the system to be my default email client. I then
when to:
http://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss/
and clicked on disc...@mozdev.org. Rather than SeaMonkey launching the
prefered (for this test case) system email client, I get the SeaMonkey
Account setup wizard.

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US;
rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091007 SeaMonkey/2.0

I then did the same in FireFox:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.3)
Gecko/20090824 Firefox/3.5.3

and that _did_ try to open an Outlook mail window.
  Note: so that folks don't get too excited, I also tested the same
using Thunderbird (3.x) as the default email client.
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4pre)
Gecko/20090925 Lightning/1.0pre Shredder/3.0pre

Out of curiosity I then installed 1.1.17 (complete) and the same problem
occurs there as well, so it's not just 2.0(x) that does not allow using
an alternate email application.
  Note: I'd never encountered this before as I've always just had
SeaMonkey set as my default email client for as long as I can remember.



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Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

2009-10-14 Thread Ray_Net

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Russell wrote:
Perhaps someone will jump in with an easy fix. I do hope the final 
release

offers the same install flexibility as did the previous versions.


SeaMonkey 2.x will not allow installing without the mailnews component.



This is removing stupidly a perfect suitable option ...
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Re: Convert emails to plain text

2009-10-14 Thread Bill Spikowski

Rickles wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:
Is there a way to convert a large batch of emails (thousands) to a 
plain text file or something similar?
I'm looking for a way to allow someone to review these emails without 
needing to install and use Seamonkey.
If this method would retain attachments in their original formats, 
that would be even better...
Seamonkey mails are ALREADY stored as text on your hard drive.  The 
graphical interface displays them as separate folders and messages.


Search your hard drive for a folder matching *.slt (without the 
quotes).  That folder is where your Seamonkey profile is.  Open that 
folder, and navigate down through the Mail folder, and the folder inside 
that (named for the email account through your ISP).  Inside that folder 
you'll find a collection of things, which will vary depending on how 
you've created subfolders inside your mail window.


The file 'inbox' (with no extension on it) is the text file which holds 
the messages of your Inbox.  The file 'inbox.msf' is an index for the 
first file.


If you've created subfolders in your Mail window Inbox (for example, 
'Keep'), messages kept there are in subfolders of your Seamonkey mail 
location in the same way as Inbox.  There's a folder called 'Inbox.sbd' 
(inbox subdirectory) in the same place as the 'inbox' file.  Inside that 
Inbox.sbd folder is the text of the messages in your Inbox's subfolder 
('Keep' and 'Keep.msf'.)  If you have subfolders of 'Keep' in your Mail 
inbox, you'll see a 'Keep.sbd' folder name, and files inside there. This 
pattern continues down as far as you nest folders in your Mail Inbox.


Wherever you find a file name ending in *.msf, there's a file of the 
same name with no extension on it.  Simply copy any file with no 
extension off to a USB flash pen or CD/DVD, and anyone can view the 
contents with a text viewer.



That sounds pretty simple!

What happens to email attachments? Are they embedded in these master text files?
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Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

2009-10-14 Thread Russell
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:47:06 -0400, KristleBawl kristleb...@some.email wrote:

Open about:config (type it in your address bar and press Enter)
Proceed past the warning. Right-click somewhere in the list, and choose 
New  Boolean. Enter network.protocol-handler.expose.mailto as the name 
and set the value to true.

Thanks KristleBawl :-))

Russell
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Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

2009-10-14 Thread KristleBawl

Russell wrote:

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:47:06 -0400, KristleBawl kristleb...@some.email wrote:


Open about:config (type it in your address bar and press Enter)
Proceed past the warning. Right-click somewhere in the list, and choose 
New  Boolean. Enter network.protocol-handler.expose.mailto as the name 
and set the value to true.


Thanks KristleBawl :-))

Russell


You're most welcome! :-)

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Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

2009-10-14 Thread KristleBawl

NoOp wrote:

On 10/14/2009 03:47 PM, KristleBawl wrote:

Russell wrote:

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:17:13 +0200, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote:


It doesn't mean you need to _use_ the mail component if it's _installed_.

Still looking for an easy way to get mailto links in webpages to open with my
usual email programme... so far no luck.

Russell

Open about:config (type it in your address bar and press Enter)
Proceed past the warning. Right-click somewhere in the list, and choose 
New  Boolean. Enter network.protocol-handler.expose.mailto as the name 
and set the value to true.


Default mail client
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Default_mail_client

how to disable mail in SeaMonkey 2.0a2pre
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=6t=942055

How do I make Mozilla not use its own email client when clicking on an 
email link?

http://mozilla.gunnars.net/mozfaq_use.html#externalmail



KristleBawl rocks  wins the WTHeck? cookie for the day! Just tested 
it works. Perhaps 'network.protocol-handler.expose.mailto - true' should
be either included as an option in the Edit|Preferences|Mail 
Newsgroups or Edit|Preferences|Browser?


I'd like that framed and mounted on my wall! ;-)

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Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

2009-10-14 Thread NoOp
On 10/14/2009 05:23 PM, KristleBawl wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 On 10/14/2009 03:47 PM, KristleBawl wrote:
 Russell wrote:
 On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:17:13 +0200, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote:

 It doesn't mean you need to _use_ the mail component if it's _installed_.
 Still looking for an easy way to get mailto links in webpages to open with 
 my
 usual email programme... so far no luck.

 Russell
 Open about:config (type it in your address bar and press Enter)
 Proceed past the warning. Right-click somewhere in the list, and choose 
 New  Boolean. Enter network.protocol-handler.expose.mailto as the name 
 and set the value to true.

 Default mail client
 http://kb.mozillazine.org/Default_mail_client

 how to disable mail in SeaMonkey 2.0a2pre
 http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=6t=942055

 How do I make Mozilla not use its own email client when clicking on an 
 email link?
 http://mozilla.gunnars.net/mozfaq_use.html#externalmail

 
 KristleBawl rocks  wins the WTHeck? cookie for the day! Just tested 
 it works. Perhaps 'network.protocol-handler.expose.mailto - true' should
 be either included as an option in the Edit|Preferences|Mail 
 Newsgroups or Edit|Preferences|Browser?
 
 I'd like that framed and mounted on my wall! ;-)
 

Not until you change:
User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812)
w/ SeaMonkey :-)


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Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

2009-10-14 Thread Cruz, Jaime

NoOp wrote:

On 10/13/2009 11:56 PM, Martin Freitag wrote:

Daniel schrieb:

Russell wrote:

I really like the Seamonkey browser and have used it for years. In
previous SM
releases I could do a custom install and not install the email feature
as I
prefer to use another email client.
With Seamonkey v2 RC's custom install there's no option to omit the email
component and now every time I click on an email link in SM it's
asking me to
setup my Seamonkey email service.
How can I get rid of this and have my email open in the application I
prefer?
I'm using XP, but assume this issue exists with Vista as well.

Thanks

Russell

Russell, it is my understanding that as SeaMonkey Suite includes a
mailnews agent, SeaMonkey's first mail call will always be to it's
inbuilt mail agent.

If you've been using just the browser portion of SeaMonkey and getting
it to call another, separate, mail agent, I'd be interested to here how
you achieved that!!

He dismissed the mail-part n the Seamonkey setup, it's that easy.
The problem is that Seamonkey 2.0 does not allow that and by default
handles mailto-links internally.

I never tried that and I'm unsure if it works but maybe those
preferences could help Russel:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.protocol-handler.external.(protocol)
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.protocol-handler.app.(protocol)
regards

Martin


I just tested on a Win2KPro VM  I see what Russell is referring to. In
the test profile I've not set up the email client (2.0rc1) and to test I
also set MS Outlook in the system to be my default email client. I then
when to:
http://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss/
and clicked on disc...@mozdev.org. Rather than SeaMonkey launching the
prefered (for this test case) system email client, I get the SeaMonkey
Account setup wizard.

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US;
rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091007 SeaMonkey/2.0

I then did the same in FireFox:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.3)
Gecko/20090824 Firefox/3.5.3

and that _did_ try to open an Outlook mail window.
  Note: so that folks don't get too excited, I also tested the same
using Thunderbird (3.x) as the default email client.
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4pre)
Gecko/20090925 Lightning/1.0pre Shredder/3.0pre

Out of curiosity I then installed 1.1.17 (complete) and the same problem
occurs there as well, so it's not just 2.0(x) that does not allow using
an alternate email application.
  Note: I'd never encountered this before as I've always just had
SeaMonkey set as my default email client for as long as I can remember.





I beg to differ.  In my office, I installed the Browser only component 
of Seamonkey 1.1.8.  I need to use Outlook for the office Exchange 
Server.  If I click on a mailto: link, it correctly launches Outlook.


Of course, since the Seamonkey mail/news client isn't installed it 
really doesn't have a choice, does it?


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Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

2009-10-14 Thread NoOp
On 10/14/2009 06:50 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
...
 Out of curiosity I then installed 1.1.17 (complete) and the same problem
 occurs there as well, so it's not just 2.0(x) that does not allow using
 an alternate email application.
   Note: I'd never encountered this before as I've always just had
 SeaMonkey set as my default email client for as long as I can remember.
 
...
 
 I beg to differ.  In my office, I installed the Browser only component 
 of Seamonkey 1.1.8.  I need to use Outlook for the office Exchange 
 Server.  If I click on a mailto: link, it correctly launches Outlook.
 
 Of course, since the Seamonkey mail/news client isn't installed it 
 really doesn't have a choice, does it?
 

Perhaps you need to attend the same reading comprehension classes that I
do on occasion :-)

quote
I then installed 1.1.17 (complete)
/quote

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Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

2009-10-14 Thread Russell
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:47:06 -0400, KristleBawl kristleb...@some.email wrote:

Open about:config (type it in your address bar and press Enter)
Proceed past the warning. Right-click somewhere in the list, and choose 
New  Boolean. Enter network.protocol-handler.expose.mailto as the name 
and set the value to true.

Hi KristleBawl,

I celebrated too soon... :-(

I reinstalled Seamonkey 2 RC thinking that the above would work and I could
start using it for day-to-day browsing. But for some reason it does not. Still
launches its built-in email client when clicking on mailto links.

Have you tried the above with success?

Russell.

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Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

2009-10-14 Thread KristleBawl

Russell wrote:

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:47:06 -0400, KristleBawl kristleb...@some.email wrote:


Open about:config (type it in your address bar and press Enter)
Proceed past the warning. Right-click somewhere in the list, and choose 
New  Boolean. Enter network.protocol-handler.expose.mailto as the name 
and set the value to true.


Hi KristleBawl,

I celebrated too soon... :-(

I reinstalled Seamonkey 2 RC thinking that the above would work and I could
start using it for day-to-day browsing. But for some reason it does not. Still
launches its built-in email client when clicking on mailto links.

Have you tried the above with success?

Russell.

After the above, make sure Seamonkey is *not* the default mail client 
(it probably becomes default during installation) and open your 
preferred mail client and reset it as the default.  It should work.


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