Re: The Bat! 4.0.24 MSI
Hello Thomas, on Thursday, 31. July 2008, at 03:47:37 [GMT +0200] you wrote regarding The Bat! 4.0.24 MSI: official final version? sorry for this cilly post :) -- Ciao Thomas Using: TheBat! 4.0.26.4 System: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP:Key-ID: 0x70D9F03B Visit: TheBat! World on http://www.thebatworld.de Cannot find a quick template TO_EN Current beta is 4.0.26.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View mode still not stored
...more Seems the the View Modes are stored (as configuration) but they don't work in folders. I tried to define other View Modes in Options-Preferences-Messages-View Modes and got an Access Violation Error Message. I had to kill TheBat! - seems a problem with the file config.cdb indeed. So I renamed the file and started TheBat again - the build in View Modes are set now - and it seems that they are working when clicking on them in the Preferences Menu of Folders. I try to define an other one and see what happens. -- Best regards, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat! 4.0.26.3 Pro (no OTFE) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.26.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View mode still not stored
Hi MAU On Thursday, July 17, 2008 8:11:36 PM you wrote: Set it to 'No view mode'. Otherwise whatever Global view mode you select, including 'Generic', overrides any folder view modes you may set. There is no choice No view mode. -- Best regards, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat! 4.0.26.3 Pro (no OTFE) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.26.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View mode still not stored
Hi MAU On Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:06:10 PM you wrote: Set it to 'No view mode'. Otherwise whatever Global view mode you select, including 'Generic', overrides any folder view modes you may set. There is no choice No view mode. In 'View/Global View Mode'? Then that's a different issue, see attached. Sorry, you are messing up two things: Yes, in menu View I find a Global View Mode. But I was describing the menu Options - Preferences - Messages - View Modes - there you don't have No view mode. -- Best regards, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat! 4.0.26.3 Pro (no OTFE) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.26.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.24.25
Hello Maxim, Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 7:53:47 PM, you wrote: The Bat! 4.0.24.25 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb402425.rar What's new in 4.0.24.25 since 4.0.24.24: [-] S/MIME decryption in Internal Implementation didn't work Confirmed working fine. Thank you! :) -- Best regards, Martinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.24.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.24.24
Hello Stefan, Saturday, June 28, 2008, 7:40:56 AM, you wrote: The Bat! 4.0.24.24 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb402424.rar Still exists the S/MIME Problem as reported in my mail from June 24th... When I want to open a message that is decrypted with S/MIME I have to enter my passphrase for the key - and afterwards I get the error message displayed in the attachment. Rolled back to 4.0.24.16 -- Best regards, Martinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]attachment: the_bat_rand_byte_error.png Current beta is 4.0.24.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.24.23 - Big Issue with S/MIME Certificate
Hello Maxim, Thursday, June 19, 2008, 8:12:48 PM, you wrote: The Bat! 4.0.24.23 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb402423.rar I have a big problem with this version and S/MIME-Certificates. When I receive an encrypted message and want to decrypt it I receive an error as you can see in the attached file. I am using a Free Thawte-Certficate... With 4.0.24.16 everything is working fine... Any confirmations? -- Best regards, Martinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]attachment: the_bat_rand_byte_error.png Current beta is 4.0.24.23 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.24.23
Hello all, this was an problem with all folders. Disk space wasn't a problem, also I was able to use the mouse. I just rebootet the machine and now it works fine. Interesting... Sorry about that, regards, Martin Current beta is 4.0.24.23 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.24.23
Hi all, I cannot move messages with the mouse (drag drop) to other folders anymore. Can anybody confirm? -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.24.23 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org Current beta is 4.0.24.23 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Toolbar grayed out 4.0.24.21
Hello Ian, on Friday, 13. June 2008, at 19:33:07 [GMT +0200] you wrote regarding Toolbar grayed out 4.0.24.21: Hi snip Please what new in version .21? -- Ciao Thomas Using: TheBat! 4.0.24.21 System: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP:Key-ID: 0x70D9F03B Visit: TheBat! World on http://www.thebatworld.de Cannot find a quick template TO_EN Current beta is 4.0.24.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.24.17
Hello Maxim, on Wednesday, 4. June 2008, at 18:32:14 [GMT +0200] you wrote regarding 4.0.24.17: The Bat! 4.0.24.17 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb402417.rar Working fine so far. -- Ciao Thomas Using: TheBat! 4.0.24.17 System: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP:Key-ID: 0x70D9F03B Visit: TheBat! World on http://www.thebatworld.de Current beta is 4.0.24.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.22.0
Hi Maxim, up and running using OTFE. As with previous 4.0.2x versions TheBat! sometimes shows two tasks in Windows Task Manager (only in applications view). And also it shows TheBat! twice in Taskbar with only one of it clickable. Also when I return to the Remote Desktop session TheBat! sometimes is shown as stopped working and been closed by Windows. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.22 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.20.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.22.0
Hi Maxim! up and running using OTFE. I have to correct myself. Incoming and outgoing filters are not working anymore... Reverting to 4.0.20.4. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.22 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.20.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.22.0
Hi Martin! up and running using OTFE. I have to correct myself. Incoming and outgoing filters are not working anymore... Reverting to 4.0.20.4. Confirmed - switched back to 4.0.20.5 I also had this problem when switching back to .5 which I noticed only five minutes ago. So now I'm back on .4 and hope that everything is working again. And yes, it could be that only some filters are not working anymore. I did not look further into this after four or five filters did not work. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.20.4 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.22.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.22.0
Hi Martin! I just received 5 messages for tbbeta. 2 signed messages from you and 3 unsigned messages from others. The filter did not work on your messages, they remained in the inbox, while it properly worked on the others. Maybe there is a dependancy on whether a message is signed or not? The last two _signed_ messages from Martin Sebald were not filtered over here. It seems that my messages are the showstopper here? *fg* (Sorry for kind of off-topic...) -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.20.4 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.22.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.22.0
Hello Steven, on Tuesday, 22. April 2008, at 15:25:26 [GMT +0200] you wrote regarding The Bat! 4.0.22.0: Tuesday, April 22, 2008, 8:46:25 AM, you wrote: Very strange... I have only one filter for TBBETA, and only *your* messages are not being processed (in 20.5 or 22.0). I've looked at the headers but I'm not seeing what could be making your messages fail the filter... Can confirm this. Same here. -- Ciao Thomas Using: TheBat! 4.0.22 System: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP:Key-ID: 0x70D9F03B Visit: TheBat! World on http://www.thebatworld.de Cannot find a quick template TO_EN Current beta is 4.0.22.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.22.0
Hi Mark! I also had this problem when switching back to .5 which I noticed only five minutes ago. So now I'm back on .4 and hope that everything is working again. And yes, it could be that only some filters are not working anymore. I did not look further into this after four or five filters did not work. Messages from you are the only ones that stay in the inbox. All other (TBBETA as well as others) seem to be filtered as could be expected. I also had problems with an outgoing filter which moves messages to people listed in my address book. These messages also stayed in the normal sent folder. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.20.4 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.22.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.22.0
Hello Roelof, on Tuesday, 22. April 2008, at 15:50:40 [GMT +0200] you wrote regarding The Bat! 4.0.22.0: I'm anxiously awaiting my first not filtered message. Yours was filtered here. I'm filtering on the Reply-To header. How do the people with not filtered messages filtering? Both last message from him have not been filtered here. The one he sent to the Beta list as also the one he sent to the Pro list. Both ended up in my Inbox. -- Ciao Thomas Using: TheBat! 4.0.22 System: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP:Key-ID: 0x70D9F03B Visit: TheBat! World on http://www.thebatworld.de Cannot find a quick template TO_EN Current beta is 4.0.22.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.22.0
Hi Peter! I'm filtering on the Reply-To header. How do the people with not filtered messages filtering? Header field 'reply-to' contains 'TBBETA@thebat.dutaint.com' I'm filtering for mailheader content: List-Id: tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.20.4 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.22.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.22.1
Hi Peter! [-] Digital signatures might cause problems in IMAP or Sorting (BETA issue) your'e damn fast, Max! ;-) Let's see what will happen to Martins next messages... So I just reply without any further sense to this mail... ;-) -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.20.4 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.22.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.22.0
Hi Peter! OK ... Martin, since your messages are the only ones which make the filter fail, could you please send two messages to the list, one signed and the other unsigned? This could be helpful in isolating this damn bug-a-boo :-) Sure... ;-) This is the signed message... -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.20.4 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.22.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.22.0
Hi Peter! OK ... Martin, since your messages are the only ones which make the filter fail, could you please send two messages to the list, one signed and the other unsigned? This could be helpful in isolating this damn bug-a-boo :-) And here we got the unsigned message... -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.20.4 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org Current beta is 4.0.22.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.20.3
Hello Maxim, on Sunday, 20. April 2008, at 21:07:48 [GMT +0200] you wrote regarding The Bat! 4.0.20.3: What's new in 4.0.20.3 since 4.0.20.2: [+] %MEMO template macro for including the original message's Memo text Very good! -- Ciao Thomas Using: TheBat! 4.0.20.2 System: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP:Key-ID: 0x70D9F03B Visit: TheBat! World on http://www.thebatworld.de Cannot find a quick template TO_EN Current beta is 4.0.20.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.20.4
Hello Maxim, on Sunday, 20. April 2008, at 22:22:21 [GMT +0200] you wrote regarding The Bat! 4.0.20.4: The Bat! 4.0.20.4 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb40204.rar Updates are coming faster and faster :) Up and running. -- Ciao Thomas Using: TheBat! 4.0.20.4 System: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP:Key-ID: 0x70D9F03B Visit: TheBat! World on http://www.thebatworld.de Cannot find a quick template TO_EN Current beta is 4.0.20.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.20.4
Hi Maxim, up and running, upgrading from 4.0.20.1. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.20.4 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.20.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Scheduler: Remind later does not work
Hi, I just had the problem that an event I set to remind later did not reoccur. I had the event set to remind me of a mail to be answered at 10:00 and a reminder one second before the event starts. I did not have the time to work on that email at 10:00, so I clicked remind later 5 minutes. TB warned me that the notification starts after the event. Change notification time?. I clicked no, because being notificated 5 minutes later is exactly what I want. The alert popup disappeared, but 5min later nothing happened! So I made another test and this time in the dialog Change notification time? I clicked Yes. This simply brought me back to the alert popup. Errrm...? Am I supposed to open the event, change the event time and save it again??? Is this a bug in the current beta? Or what would be the correct way to be reminded again after 5 minutes? Thanks, Martin Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.18.7
Hi Maxim, up and running with OTFE and Windows Server 2008. ;-) -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.18.7 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.18.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
default charset
Hi all, is there any suggestion what charset is best to use as default? (I'm from Germany so 99,99% of the mostly German and English mails are written and recieved in latin letters.) At the moment I'm using Latin 9 (ISO) but I was thinking about changing this to Unicode (UTF-8). No real reason given but UTF-8 seems to be the future as many applications and operating systems are changing from ISO to UTF-8. And a TheBat! specific question: Is it useful to force a charset when answering to mails or keeping to the charset the original mail was? And what does the option default charset in the folder properties box do? Is this the charset which is used when creating a new message or replying a message? And what about the use character set option in account properties / new message template? Does this override other settings or is this overridden by the folder properties? Thanks a lot for your help. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.18.5 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.18.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: default charset
Hi Vili! I think, this mail should have gone to TBUDL. Good point. Just forgot about this list. ;-) I'm also subscribed but I never write there... And what does the option default charset in the folder properties box do? Is this the charset which is used when creating a new message or replying a message? And what about the use character set option in account properties / new message template? Does this override other settings or is this overridden by the folder properties? While you wrote this message, a quick test would have given you the answer. :) So, instead of answer this, I encourage you to make that test. (I hope you dont feel I am rude: I would do the same to my daughter: let her explore things to make her _better_.) Sure, I could try but there are two reasons I did not: 1) I get asked all day about computer problems so in this case I just behave like my customers. It's quicker and easier, also I don't want to invent the wheel a second time. ;-) 2) I can try the behaviour of these settings and afterwards I can say how it works, maybe. But I don't know the real reasons why there are several possibilities to set the charset. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.18.6 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.18.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: default charset
Hi Vili! I just realized you are an old beta tester. Strange questions... I thought somebody is lost. ;-) As said in the other message I am subscribed to all lists but I usually only read this list and also I only write in this list, from time to time. I'm more like a passive beta tester and only write when something really matters to me. is there any suggestion what charset is best to use as default? (I'm from Germany so 99,99% of the mostly German and English mails are written and recieved in latin letters.) At the moment I'm using Latin 9 (ISO) but I was thinking about changing this to Unicode (UTF-8). No real reason given but UTF-8 seems to be the future as many applications and operating systems are changing from ISO to UTF-8. I use the same charset to reply mails that I got. So what is your default charset? You replied to my message by using us-ascii as charset. Also I noticed that my first message does not have any charset at all in the message header?!? I wrote in Latin 9 (ISO), h...?!? And a TheBat! specific question: Is it useful to force a charset when answering to mails or keeping to the charset the original mail was? I think, in English/German mails, it is not an issue... I think, if you would have Chinese, Cyrillic contacts, that would be an issue. As I wrote, I'm not a real specialist with charsets. I just noticed that there must be something around when for example Debian changed from ISO-8859 to UTF-8 with the last release. Also MySQL-Server changed from ISO-8859 to UTF-8. There must be a reason for this so I asked myself if it is useful or not doing the same with my email message format. Maybe some mailer programs may have problems with ISO charsets in the future?!? -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.18.6 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.18.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to recover messages?
Hello Paul! PVN Yes, I was able to do it for a customer once. It has never been a PVN problem otherwise. Please tell me how you recovered the mails. All my attempts with Voyager were futile. I would be also very interested who this worked for you as this was the question I was raising in this thread. Is it possible to revert OTFE back to plain? -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.18.6 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.18.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to recover messages?
Hi Paul! MS As you can see, I use OTFE. TF Bad choice. MS Is there a trick? ;-) TF Use plain. OTFE doesn't seem to support recovering the messages. At TF least that is my experience with Voyager, have tried many ways. Poor advice for someone who has the potential of compromise. I have customers around the world using OTFE with success. The reason I am using OTFE is because I'm also using TB! on my notebook. I tought it might be better to encrypt the mail database instead of encrypting the whole hard drive because of performance and other reasons. My new notebook now offers hardware encryption so OTFE might be outdate for me but I really can understand the argument Thomas brought up. OTFE is very useful for many people. But it seems to be that OTFE isn't fully developed when looking onto database recovery. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.18.6 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.18.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: default charset
Hi Vili! Also I noticed that my first message does not have any charset at all in the message header?!? I wrote in Latin 9 (ISO), h...?!? It had charset=iso-8859-15, which _is_ Latin 9 Does the mailing list alter the mail header and modifies charset information? This would not make any sense at all... Your mail again contains this in the mail header: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hm... Peters mail also contained this charset information. Is this correct? My mail header looks like this: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary0173761011== Maybe because of the S/MIME certificate. I will send this mail without S/MIME. But how does the foreign mail client know how to show my mail? -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.18.6 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org Current beta is 4.0.18.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: default charset
Hi Peter, and first of all thank you for all the information about this character set stuff you are providing. Very interesting and also helpful. Sure: for e-mail there is a method to declare the used character set, but not for text files ... And if used commonly for text products, why stick with an old system for e-mail? :-) So: let's switch and show the world: we're not dinosaurs, we use not only a modern MUA, but also see the advantages of a modern character encoding system ;-) I also like being a pioneer and I also like it using new fancy stuff. So I fully agree with your words. But is this the right thing to do? The question is what charset is the best to use to be compatible with most of the other guys on the internet. I'm not talking about Windows 95 users who might run into problems but I'm talking about normal users with Outlook (Express) or Thunderbird or webmail client users. Do most of the modern mail clients support UTF-8 and is this the first choice for mail encoding or should we stick a little bit longer to ISO-8859? -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.18.6 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.18.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: default charset
Hi all! My mail header looks like this: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary0173761011== Maybe because of the S/MIME certificate. I will send this mail without S/MIME. But how does the foreign mail client know how to show my mail? Ok. Without S/MIME I also get Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii in my mail header. When I send a mail to my webmail account I get this: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 So mails to the mailing list are somehow altered. Hopefully not only the mail header but also the content of the mail itself. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.18.6 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.18.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.18: Two TB! entries in Task Manager
Hello Ian, I think I have worked out why there are two entries in Task Manager under applications, but some don't see it. If you have your preferences set to Do not put The Bat! to Task Bar, then you will only see one entry in Task Manager Applications tab. Thanks a lot Ian, that was awfully helpful! I did not have the Show always in taskbar ticked at all, but I rather have a icon in taskbar than in task manager (and my task switcher Task Switch XP). -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.18.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to recover messages?
Hi all, nobody has any idea? :-( -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.14.9 powered by Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.7
Hi Maxim, is there some problem with the internal backup? I discovered that TB was backing up my data! Interesting because I never used the internal backup routine, also I never configured anything to make an automated backup. Where are the backup files stored? I was not able to see any destination folder or anything like that. I upgraded to 4.0.14.9 now but I did not read anything about this in .8 and .9 release information. I also had this problem before, see here: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.14.9 powered by Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Autocomplete
Hello Thomas, Thanks for jumping in, as intended. You quoted me and wrote: MS It looks like it's the last used address on top. Do you all think MS this is a logical way to sort a list where you search an address to MS delete or one that you can't remember because you used it a long time MS ago, maybe? PMFJI. I think this is the logical way. The most recent address is actually most likely the one that I use most often, and therefore most likely the correct address. MS I'd prefer to have it sorted alphabetically. Please no! I would ensure that it always shows a non-desired address first. I think I would disable autocomplete from history then (and grieve for it). I think this is a misunderstanding, because in the email before that I wrote: MS I can, however, delete the entry this way when I use the above MS mentioned button on the right side of the address field to open the MS list, go down with the cursor key and hit enter. MS MS BTW: This list shows all entries in a non alphabetic order, so it can be MS hard to find the entry to delete. What order is used there? So I thought it was obvious that I did *not* mean the list that pops up as soon as you start typing (let's call it the autocomplete list). There, I agree, the last used item should be on top. Instead I meant the list of manually entered addresses (let's call it the manual address list, that's the one that opens when you click the down-arrow-button on the right of an address field). I think an alphabetic list would make more sense there, since this is just a list of all addresses I ever typed in manually, so it would be more easy to find an item. Or am I getting something wrong here? MS Hm, but I guess that's something that depends on taste and the way MS you use that list. I use it only to delete erratic or unused MS entries. And I use the autocomplete function to autocomplete email addresses - there you see how people use it differently. ;-) That's right again. I too use the autocomplete list to autocomplete, and the manual address list for managing manually entered addresses ;-) -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Autocomplete
Hello MAU, You are darn right! I was pretty sure that worked or at least it did in the past. But I am now not sure because, since a long time ago, I only auto-complete from AB and not History. That's what I think, too. Maybe that never worked, I can't remember either. But as it works somehow to delete items this is ok for me. Too lazy to file a bug report here...again :-} maybe Art will do? :-) -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Autocomplete
Hello Art, I'm not sure when it stopped working in the 4.0 process, but you were able to delete addresses that appear in the Autocomplete drop down box in the To, CC, BCC fields in a message. Previously, all you had to do was scroll down with the down arrow, and hit delete on the one you wanted to delete. I am not sure what you mean by down arrow: the cursor down-key on your keyboard or the TB!-button on the right side of the address-field with the arrows pointing downwards? Here I can NOT delete an entry when I start typing the first letters, the list pops up and I use the cursor to go down the list, and hit delete. I can, however, delete the entry this way when I use the above mentioned button on the right side of the address field to open the list, go down with the cursor key and hit enter. BTW: This list shows all entries in a non alphabetic order, so it can be hard to find the entry to delete. What order is used there? -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Autocomplete
Hello MAU, What order is used there? I'd say it's last used on top. ;-) I'd say obviously my English is not good enough to express sarcasm...that sort order you mention was my first guess, too. But I don't think its a good solution. I should better have said: It looks like it's the last used address on top. Do you all think this is a logical way to sort a list where you search an address to delete or one that you can't remember because you used it a long time ago, maybe? I'd prefer to have it sorted alphabetically. Hm, but I guess that's something that depends on taste and the way you use that list. I use it only to delete erratic or unused entries. -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Autocomplete
Hello MAU, It looks like it's the last used address on top. Do you all think this is a logical way to sort a list where you search an address to delete... If I know which address I want to delete, I just start typing it in the corresponding field and the drop down list will open displaying only those addresses that match what I have so far typed. At any moment, I can use the down arrow key to get into the list, scroll if needed, and delete. Yes, that would be nice, and that is exactly what's not working here and on Art's computer! As soon as the list opens automatically (and not by me pressing on the button on the right) I can't delete an entry! ...or one that you can't remember because you used it a long time ago, maybe? If you can't remember it, how are you going to look for it? ;-) Can't remember *exactly*, that's what I meant. -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to create a german CSAPI user dictionary (was: Add words to german CSAPI not possible (was: Re: 4.0.14.3))
Hello MAU, So I had a look at your registry settings (thanks for sending those along) and noticing that while your settings had a key with the correct locale id for each language ( 1034 for Spanish-Spain, 1033 for English-United States) the registry key my file was registered in had a key of 7, obviously not a valid locale. Did you have CSAPI German selected as the speller language when you created the user dictionary? No, there was no option for that. Only a list of languages, and, funny enough, german three times. But I tested all of them, and none worked. What finally made it work was something you mentioned in one of your earlier mails about the subject, namely some code in the first line of the .dic file. So I looked at the american english dictionary and found in the first line: #LID 0 I added this to my CSAPI_DE_UD.dic and voilà! It works! a valid locale. None of my CSAPI user dictionaries include any numeric or alphanumeric code in the first line, they are just a plain text list of words, one per line. What I am guessing happened to you is that you started with a completely empty user dictionary while I did Import my old user dictionaries right after creating the new ones. That's right, that's the way I did it. Again, my guess is that if right after creating the dictionary you had added a first word from the same dialog, it would have worked. I think that the '#LID 0' is just taken as the first word in the dictionary and it is probably displayed as such if you do a Spell Checker/Dictionaries and select your CSAPI German one. Yes, that is well possible. The '#LID 0' does, however, not appear in my list of words. So I think it's even more easy to - create a textfile with the line #LID 0 in it Yes, it seems easier but with the 'risk' of having to create several Registry keys manually. And also, #LID 0 is not needed, just one (any) word that you want to be in your user dictionary. So I looked at the american english dictionary and found in the first line: #LID 0 I forgot to ask, which American English dictionary? Because I have: #LID 1033 1 89 (in accent.tlx) #LID 24941 (in correct,tlx) #LID 1033 1 1017 (in Ssceam.tlx) #LID 24941 (in userdic.tlx) Neither of them...alongside with the new german dic I also created an American English one, and when I looked into that file it had the '#LID 0' in it. So to me it seems like this is a miracle that only the developers can work out. I don't even think we can file a useful bug report, because what we did and what worked does not follow a logic principle. Maybe let's file a report for the greyed out buttons, and then we check if these are working correctly and creating the right registry keys. Can you do this? You are much quicker as I am I guess... Thanks again! -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.3: Extraneous characters when pasting as quoted
Hello MAU, When I copy some text from the preview pane and then 'Past as Quotation' I get an extra character at the end of the quoted paragraph that is displayed as a square. Looking at the source code this looks like an ACK (non printable) character, because it is '=06' in quoted printable format, which represents the ACK character. No clue where this might come from. I copied the above quote just the same way, let's see if it has an extra character when it reaches you. -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The new Editor Font Selection with Profiles: Problems with reading HTML-Mails
Hello Tbbeta, I am having trouble with the display of received HTML Mails since 4.x. Let me explain: I have a fixed width pixel font set for writing and reading text mails (profont http://www.tobias-jung.de/seekingprofont/) that works only in 8px size. In 3.99.29 it was used for all text-only display, and HTML-Mails without font definition were displayed using another font, because there were different settings for MicroEd/Plain Text and HTML/Windows. But since 4 there is only one font definition, divided into different sets for different locales. That's good idea, but it has the disadvantage that the same font is now used for displaying plain text and html-text (without font definition). This has the effect that my fixed width font is used for normal text in HTML-Mails (which it shouldn't), and the size also differs from what I defined in the settings, so its near to unreadable. I'd rather not switch the font because is is so perfectly readable. So I switched to display HTML/Text Emails as text first as a temporary workaround. But what I'd prefer was another setting in preferences - viewer/editor - profiles - [profile] that allows me to set Plain Text or HTML (or both) for a profile, in addition to the locales/languages selectable right now. What do you think? Maybe I am the only one having that problem. And please: no font discussion now, I searched for fonts to read plain text and program code on the net long enough to be sure I am using the font that suits me best...! ;-) -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to create a german CSAPI user dictionary (was: Add words to german CSAPI not possible (was: Re: 4.0.14.3))
Hello Maggie, Can this #LID stand for Language ID Number? Good thought! I tried and entered #LID 1031 into my german dic, and now it shows up as Language: GE in the dictionary selection dialog! Before that it was displayed as Language: any there. So thanks, Maggie! Another miracle solved. I have a new claim for Ritlabs: TheBat: the DIY-Mailclient :-) -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.3] Character Set not properly set in outgoing Messages
Hello Volker, The character sets of all of my eMail accounts are set to Latin 9 Indeed they are ;-) I had a similar problem, and as far as I remember this was due to the fact that TB (by itself or initially, I don't know) set the character set for my account(s) to latin9. Check here: (Your account) - properties - Templates - New Message - Use Character Set If this is your problem, too, this is not a problem of 4.0.14.3, as this happened to me long ago (with the 3.x version), as I see when I look at my older mails (all latin9). -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Add words to german CSAPI not possible (was: Re: 4.0.14.3)
Hello Maxim, [+] User dictionaries supported in CSAPI Would like to report that I cannot add words to the german CSAPI dictionary. If the above announcement means this should be fixed I cannot confirm. If this problem is related to another bug please let me know. Symptoms: I have automatic spell check (CSAPI German) activated, and if I click Add to dictionary in the context menu of an unknown word nothing happens, and the word is still unknown (red line below). Anything else I can do? -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Add words to german CSAPI not possible (was: Re: 4.0.14.3)
Hello MAU, I have automatic spell check (CSAPI German) activated, and if I click Add to dictionary in the context menu of an unknown word nothing happens, and the word is still unknown (red line below). Anything else I can do? When you right click on the unknown word and if you then select Dictionary to add to, is your CSAPI users dictionary selected? That is, with a checkmark on its left as in attachment? MAU, I don't seem to have the same context menu as you do...strange isn't it? See attachment. Using MicroEd here. Anything else I can try? -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2attachment: contextUnknownWord.png Current beta is 4.0.14.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Add words to german CSAPI not possible (was: Re: 4.0.14.3)
Hallo Jens, MAU, I don't seem to have the same context menu as you do...strange isn't it? See attachment. Using MicroEd here. Anything else I can try? I am using MicroEd here too, i have disabled anything than Hunspell, but i have the Menue Dictionary to add to under Add to Dictionary. I've read this before, but I am still not sure what you all mean by disabling a dictionary. I searched all relevant dialogs, but can't find a way to enable, disable or even just see which dictionaries I have or am using. What am I missing here? Did you customize Menues? I did, but not that one. -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Add words to german CSAPI not possible (was: Re: 4.0.14.3)
Hello MAU, When you right click on the unknown word and if you then select Dictionary to add to, is your CSAPI users dictionary selected? That is, with a checkmark on its left as in attachment? At first I did not see this context menu, but I found out that when two languages are selected for spell checking I get the option to add to directory . But to get back to your question: no, I can't find the german CSAPI. That brings me to the idea that I would really like to check which spell checker I am using when I select German. It works very good, that's why I think its CSAPI, but can I check somewhere? Thanks for helping me out. -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 attachment: context2languages.png Current beta is 4.0.14.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How to create a german CSAPI user dictionary (was: Add words to german CSAPI not possible (was: Re: 4.0.14.3))
Hello MAU, First of all let me say how much I appreciate your efforts and time you use to help me. Ritlabs and this list can count themselves lucky to have someone like you on the messageboard. You've helped me so many times already...that beer deal still active? ;-) Yes, but it may not be straight forward (I'll explain why), let's see if I can lead you to it. Your explanation was absolutely perfect, and while it did not work here it surely pointed me into the right direction. Heres what I did: I (as suggested by you) keep older TB versions, so it was no problem to return to 3.99.29 and start the dialog, select New File, enter the filename, close the dialog. The dictionary appeared (strangely enough as Language: any beside the select box) in 3.99. But it did not work: it got lost when I reopened 3.99, and was not available in 4.0. The dic file was empty and I could not add words to it, no way. So I had a look at your registry settings (thanks for sending those along) and noticing that while your settings had a key with the correct locale id for each language ( 1034 for Spanish-Spain, 1033 for English-United States) the registry key my file was registered in had a key of 7, obviously not a valid locale. So I changed it to 1031 (German - Germany) but still no luck. What finally made it work was something you mentioned in one of your earlier mails about the subject, namely some code in the first line of the .dic file. So I looked at the american english dictionary and found in the first line: #LID 0 I added this to my CSAPI_DE_UD.dic and voilà! It works! So I think it's even more easy to - create a textfile with the line #LID 0 in it - create a registry key under [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\CommonSpeller with the locale ID for the desired language (see http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/0h88fahh.aspx for those) - add a REG_DWORD (DWORD Value) named count in it, set the value to 1 - add a REG_SZ (String Value) in it named File #1 with the path to the file created in step 1. Hm, not really easy. But for me that worked... So thanks again for helping. Hope my solution helps someone else, too. -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to create a german CSAPI user dictionary (was: Add words to german CSAPI not possible (was: Re: 4.0.14.3))
Not so long ago I wrote: - create a registry key under [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\CommonSpeller with the locale ID for the desired language (see http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/0h88fahh.aspx for those) I forgot: - here: create another key called User Directories and in there: - add a REG_DWORD (DWORD Value) named count in it, set the value to 1 - add a REG_SZ (String Value) in it named File #1 with the path to the file created in step 1. -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Help: TB asks for password I never entered!
Hello Tbbeta, Strange: suddenly TB asks me for a password when I try to send queued mail from the outbox. I never password protected any of my accounts, though! And it asks for the password only when I try to send queued mail, not when I open the inbox, outbox or settings, or do anything else with the account. I can even open the mail and send it via immediate send. What's going on? Is there anything I can check/do? BTW: the text of the message box is somewhat strange, it says: --- Please input account password for [ (input field) ] --- For what? When I simply hit enter I get: - Access violation at address 00B50D88 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 0118. - Unfortunately I don't have a 3.x version here to test. -- Martin TB! 4.0.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.4 : CSAPI dictionary macro %language not working as before
Hello Miroslav, Was this macro ever present? I only know the following CSAPI macros. Must have been...as it worked nicely on 3.x %LANGUAGE=CSAPI GE Tried this one, and it works! Thanks a lot, could have thought of this myself though ;-) Background information: GN was supposed to switch to Neue Deutsche Rechtschreibung (the new orthography introduced for the german language some years ago) while GE was used for old orthography. But as far as I tested I am using new orthography with GE now...don't ask me how this works. -- Martin TB! 4.0.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: CSAPI user dictionaries not available - my workaround
Hello MAU, I can't really say to all languages. But I could not get any of the user dictionaries for the three above mentioned languages to work. And they all work with v3.99.29. MAU, I should learn to read...you were talking about *user dictionaries*...I thought you meant the dictionaries as such. *negg slaps his forehead* Sorry for wasting your time... -- Martin TB! 4.0.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
4.0.14.4 : CSAPI dictionary macro %language not working as before
Hello Tbbeta, I have the following macro in my quicktemplates to switch to the german spell checker: %LANGUAGE=CSAPI GN%- That worked in 3.99.29, but does not work any more on 4.x - 4.0.14.1 I suppose that's because the key for German Language is no longer GN (mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] seems to point this way). Anybody knows a way to find out what the correct code would be? -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.4 : CSAPI dictionary macro %language not working as before
Hello Uwe, %LANGUAGE=CSAPI GN%- That worked in 3.99.29, but does not work any more on 4.x - 4.0.14.1 As I understood from previous discussion %LANGUAGE=GN should be enough. At least it works for SSCE. I cannot test CSAPI as I don't have Office 97. No, '%LANGUAGE=GN' does not work. -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.4 : CSAPI dictionary macro %language not working as before
Hello MAU, Like Uwe, I can't test with CSAPI because I don't have any German CSAPI dictionaries. But I have just installed the SSCE ones and '%LANGUAGE=GN' works fine from a GN quick template when I type GNCtrl+Space. Yeah, seems to me like its a problem with the CSAPI switching. But IIRC the CSAPI suggestions were much better than the ones built into TB 3.x (I guess these were the SSCE, or am I wrong?). -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: CSAPI user dictionaries not available - my workaround
Hello MAU, As you may know, I've been using CSAPI dictionaries for years and 'compiled' user dictionaries both for Spanish and British English. Up to version 3.99.29 everything works but, as I have reported in BT https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6735 CSAPI user dics are not working for any of the 4.x versions. I am not sure if I misinterpret the whole thing, but as I reported in Set default spell check language or use Makro on TBUDL (mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) I believe that I don't have any other german spellchecker installed beside the CSAPI one, and it seems to work. Are you sure that CSAPI user dics are not working for any of the 4.x versions. applies to all languages? -- Martin TB! 4.0.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14
Hi all, I had this again just some minutes ago. When right clicking TB in task bar and clicking on close a Backup window appeared. TB backuped my accounts! Interesting, because I never configured a automatic backup or used the internal backup anyhow. Two questions: Where can I disable this and where are the files stored? I don't need the backup files because I use my own backup method. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.14 powered by Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14
Hi all, sorry, message should belong here: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.14 powered by Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14
Hi Maxim, installed fine from MSI but when I minimize TB into the task bar it jumps to over 30% CPU in task manager and I'm not able to restore the program window. Closing TB with right click in the task bar works. I downgraded to 4.0.12.2. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.12.2 powered by Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How to recover messages?
Hi all, maybe not a beta issue and a RTFM issue here with me, but I want to ask anyway. During downloading messages my computer hang up the day before yesterday. In maintainance centre TB showed two damaged folders and said that it was able to recover messages. The folder in the TB folder list shows zero messages, also after restarting TB. When taking a look into the folder directory I see the following files: MESSAGES.BCK MESSAGES.EBB MESSAGES.EBI MESSAGES.IBK As you can see, I use OTFE. The first two files should contain the messages. I tried to import both files to another folder but wasn't able to do this, 0 messages imported. Is there a trick? ;-) -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.12.2 powered by Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14
Hi Maxim, I had the same problem with 4.0.12.2, so I upgraded to 4.0.14 again. It could have something to do when Edit Mail Message windows are open and get minimized or pressed to the background. Strange... -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.14 powered by Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Select Certificate box always appears
Hi all, with 3.x versions of TB this box only appeared one time after installing a new private certificate into an account. With 4.x versions it apprears every time. I started using 4.x with version 4.0.11. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.14 powered by Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.orgattachment: select_certificate.png smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.22 Release Candidate
Hi Maxim! The Bat! 4.0.0.22 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_4-0-0-22.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_4-0-0-22.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_4-0-0-22.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_rus_4-0-0-22.msi is this release still downloadable? I get errors when I tried to download. Did I miss something when crosschecking my new 1500 mails here in the list? Sorry, I did not read much the last weeks. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.11 powered by Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.22 Release Candidate
Hi Marek! The Bat! 4.0.0.22 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_4-0-0-22.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_4-0-0-22.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_4-0-0-22.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_rus_4-0-0-22.msi is this release still downloadable? I get errors when I tried to download. Did I miss something when crosschecking my new 1500 mails here in the list? Sorry, I did not read much the last weeks. You have newer build than this, why do You want to download it? Argn, you're right. I missed the second zero... Sorry... ;-) -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.11 powered by Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thread View of Email
Hello Kyle, Saturday, February 9, 2008, 6:48:46 PM, you wrote: For example, I send a message to the bat group and receive several responses. Now, my original message is pushed down and the responders reply is on top of mine and so on. Is there a way to have my original message show as the top level and all responders show up under my original post? Did you try to go to Menu View / View Threads by and choose Reference (or press Alt-1). When doing so the result should be what you are looking for. -- Best regards, Martinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0.9
Hello MAU, Friday, February 8, 2008, 8:58:27 PM, you wrote: I receive a page not found... Not any more :) Confirmed... ;) -- Best regards, Martinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.9
Hello Maxim, Friday, February 8, 2008, 8:47:30 PM, you wrote: The Bat! 4.0.9 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_4-0-9.msi I receive a page not found... -- Best regards, Martinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confusing help text
Hello Peter, Wednesday, February 6, 2008, 10:28:57 PM, you wrote: F1 - Search - Keyboard enter Select topic List of keyboard shortcuts. Click on Block and Format TB displays the Block Modes instead of keyboard shortcuts. Confirmed... -- Best regards, Martinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.15 (ALPHA)
Hello Maxim, Saturday, January 26, 2008, 10:39:59 PM, you wrote: The Bat! 4.0.0.15 (ALPHA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tb40015.rar When assigning file type associations (e.g. only EML) after clicking on ASSOCIATE NOW and closing and reopening the associating window the boxes may mark different file types associations than you marked before... Please confirm. -- Best regards, Martinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.0.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.9 ALPHA
Hello Maxim, on Thursday, 10. January 2008, at 12:15:41 [GMT +0100] you wrote regarding The Bat! 4.0.0.9 ALPHA: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tba4009.rar [*] New viewer is being implemented - search in viewed messages no longer work. It's not possible anymore to move the cursor with 'tab' between Priewview pane and Acount list on the left. Cursor stucks in the priewview pane. Rest still works. -- Ciao Thomas Using: TheBat! 4.0.0.9 (ALPHA) System: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP:Key-ID: 0x70D9F03B Visit: TheBat! World on http://www.thebatworld.de Cannot find a quick template TO_EN Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.8A - Add to addressbook missing
Hello Wolffe, on Tuesday, 8. January 2008, at 01:22:05 [GMT +0100] you wrote regarding 4.0.0.8A - Add to addressbook missing: If this was an intentional change, I will sorely miss to ability to add new addresses to the addressbook by simply clicking on them in the header. Still working here by doubleclick. -- Ciao Thomas Using: TheBat! 4.0.0.8 (ALPHA) System: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP:Key-ID: 0x70D9F03B Visit: TheBat! World on http://www.thebatworld.de Cannot find a quick template TO_EN Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Overrule invalid Certificates
Hello, it would be good if there would be a possibility to overrule invalid or outdated Certificates. Like with other mailers there should pop up a warning and a question what to do. In some cases it makes sense to accept a connection even the certificate is outdated. This happens when I want to connect via IMAP to one of my providers. I have no chance to accept or override... :( 22.12.2007, 17:54:05: IMAP - This certificate is self-issued. !22.12.2007, 17:54:05: IMAP - TLS handshake failure. Invalid server certificate (This certificate has expired). !22.12.2007, 17:54:05: IMAP - Could not connect to the server 25.12.2007, 17:26:50: IMAP - Initiating TLS handshake 25.12.2007, 17:26:50: IMAP - Certificate S/N: xxx, algorithm: RSA (1024 bits), issued from 08.11.2006 19:23:47 to 08.11.2007 19:23:47, for 1 host(s): localhost. 25.12.2007, 17:26:50: IMAP - Owner: DE, xxx, xxx, xxx, Automatically-generated IMAP SSL key, localhost, xxx. 25.12.2007, 17:26:50: IMAP - This certificate is self-issued. !25.12.2007, 17:26:50: IMAP - TLS handshake failure. Invalid server certificate (This certificate has expired). !25.12.2007, 17:26:50: IMAP - Could not connect to the server (I anonymized all provider relevant infos with xxx) Thanks in advance. -- Happy Holiday, Martin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! 4.0
Hello Sebastian, Friday, October 12, 2007, 8:39:05 PM, you wrote: What normal user expect is: 1. HTML templates 2. HTML pictures Yes, that is important. More and more newsletters are not readable without showing the pcitures. 3. Account like in OE (example: one Incoming folder for couple Accounts) No go. If it is optional I don't mind. But that is one of the reasons I never would use Outlook as mail client for more than one account. I simply need the separation of the incoming accounts. If you really do want that then make a gerneric incoming folder and define a filtering rule. 4. Improved backup and folder/message maintenance (.bin files problems) 5. RSS native support Would be nice to have. Also like newsgroups. But let's focus on the main task of The Bat: mails... ;) 6. better IMAP 7. better calendar and exchange support At least a calendering feature that supports WEBDAV or similar protocols. That also would make it possible to use ZIMBRA as mailserver. 8. Linux version Would be nice too, but I think when The Bat runs via Wine it also is fine, isn't it? 9. ldap v3 with TLS/SSL More important is that you would have the choice even to override invalid protocols (in case one is expired or something like that). What I expect: 1. Bugfixes Of course. 2. News and RSS native support Would be very nice. 3. HTML tamplates and pictures At least the pictures are a MUST. 4. PocketPC version with synchronization As I don't have a pocketPC version... However this feature isn't as important as it looks like. When you have an IMAP functionality then it is enough for the mails. However there should be a possibility to synchronise Calendar and Contacts. But I don't think that this is a task for the mail client. This better is implemented on the mailserver (e.g. synchronisation with Active Sync over the air). 5. Mouse gestures Well, I do like them but I never missed them in The Bat... 6. ACAP implementation for auto-choose best secure connection to server Nice to have. But I also didn't miss that yet... -- Best regards, Martinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 3.99.29
Hi Maxim, I'm still having the same problem I had with version 3.99.25, see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] from Oct/20/2007. I'm experiencing the problem that the field for the today's messages display time format is emptied every time I restart TheBat. Means I have to enter (for example) t every time I restart TheBat, otherwise default display format is used. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.99.29 powered by Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 3.99.29
Hello Maxim, on Wednesday, 31. October 2007, at 16:35:17 [GMT +0100] you wrote regarding 3.99.29: 3.99.29 is the same as 3.99.27.2, but wrapped in the MSI. Up and running fine so far with Regula AS Plugin. -- Ciao Thomas Using: TheBat! 3.99.29 System: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP:Key-ID: 0x70D9F03B Visit: TheBat! World on http://www.thebatworld.de Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 3.99.29
Hello Maxim, on Wednesday, 31. October 2007, at 16:35:17 [GMT +0100] you wrote regarding 3.99.29: It only fixes the plugin api bug of 3.99.27. The IntPack has left unchanged. I was happy to early. 29 still shutting down with Regula AS Plugin :) -- Ciao Thomas Using: TheBat! 3.99.29 System: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP:Key-ID: 0x70D9F03B Visit: TheBat! World on http://www.thebatworld.de Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 3.99.27 without ASLR
Hello Maxim, on Tuesday, 30. October 2007, at 10:14:53 [GMT +0100] you wrote regarding The Bat! 3.99.27 without ASLR: Did you try the Regula Plugin with 3.99.27.0, 3.99.25, 3.99.3? Did these version work properly. Regula worked with every TheBat! Version perfect till now. This is the first time with problems. TheBat! is checking and receiving messeages and shuting down for some reason. -- Ciao Thomas Using: TheBat! 3.99.25 System: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP:Key-ID: 0x70D9F03B Visit: TheBat! World on http://www.thebatworld.de Current beta is 3.99.27 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: (no subject)
Hello Sean, on Monday, 29. October 2007, at 02:35:35 [GMT +0100] you wrote regarding (no subject): I would like to participate in beta testing. Please forward me a link if more testers are needed/wanted. Thanks. New Beta will be anounced on this list plus download link. -- Ciao Thomas Using: TheBat! 3.99.25 System: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP:Key-ID: 0x70D9F03B Visit: TheBat! World on http://www.thebatworld.de Current beta is 3.99.27 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 3.99.27 without ASLR
Hello Henk, on Friday, 26. October 2007, at 21:15:38 [GMT +0200] you wrote regarding The Bat! 3.99.27 without ASLR: On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, at 11:16:11 [GMT -0700] (which was 20:16 where I live) Matt Thoene wrote: ...*snip* This version did not work for me on Vista 64 bit. Installed fine but when trying to start I saw splash screen then crash. Had to revert back to 3.99.20 to get working again. Fell back to .25 because of the Spam plugin not working... Confirmed! All mails go to Junk. -- Ciao Thomas Using: TheBat! 3.99.25 System: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP:Key-ID: 0x70D9F03B Visit: TheBat! World on http://www.thebatworld.de Current beta is 3.99.27 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 3.99.27 without ASLR
Hello Neal, on Thursday, 25. October 2007, at 00:34:41 [GMT +0200] you wrote regarding The Bat! 3.99.27 without ASLR: Hi Maxim, http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-99-27.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_3-99-27.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_3-99-27.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_rus_3-99-27.msi It's a no-go on the links :( Patience, patience :) -- Ciao Thomas Using: TheBat! 3.99.25 System: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP:Key-ID: 0x70D9F03B Visit: TheBat! World on http://www.thebatworld.de Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0
Hi Paul! I don't get IMAP calls when they use other email clients. Seems you have already found the answer to your problem. ...which comes back to the bottom line of my post which started this subthread: Ritlabs, please add long promised and paid state of the art features MOST mail client big players offer smootly to your planned state of the art interface! Or let me say it different: Focus on long promised stuff instead of talking to some kind of design bureau for a interface nobody here really needs. See, people go mad the same way with e.g. IMAP issues with fancy interface which shows the errors and a classic interface. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.99.24 powered by Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0
Hi Paul! Seems you have already found the answer to your problem. Ritlabs, please add long promised and paid state of the art features MOST mail client big players offer smootly to your planned state of the art interface! I am confused, you said, please add...state of the art features MOST mail client big players offer... I do not understand why you are not using one of the big players if they are giving you what you are looking for. Because I like TheBat most of the time and for most of its features. Also because I'm from the southern part of Germany, to be exactly I'm a Swabian. Maybe you heard what is told about us: We look after our money and what we paid we want to have. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.99.24 powered by Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0
Hi Vili! Friday, October 12, 2007, 6:06:15 PM: What's the situation? Any bètatesting for this version or... yes, it will be, You must wait, work in progress :-) release date I'm more interested if features promised for v2 will be available for v4. Or if this is just another milk the cows release. Sorry for being so optimistic about that. ;-) -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.99.24 powered by Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0
Hi Gleason! Hasn't everyone seen this? Well maybe not, so here it is from the Ritlabs website: The largest-scale changes were made in The Bat!’s interface. Users will see a totally new program. [...] Sounds fancy and supports exactly what I wanted to say: A lot of cosmetic fixes and some fancy bright new colorful stuff but old issues aren't fixed. I think that a state of the art modern interface should come with state of the art features like IMAP and newsgroups ability. The last time I tried IMAP it did not work as it should, see here in the group. I especially had problems with filters and stuff like this. Also some other issues which makes IMAP completly unusable for me. Funny is that I paid for IMAP when I bought v2. Plus plus plus. But I'm really tired of talking this all and all over again. I'm complaining every six months or so about the company's politics and the priority of issues, bugs and stuff like this and it seems that I am the almost the only one who isn't happy with this. I agree that the TB interface should be state of the art. This is important for a lot of (new) customers. But don't forget the tons of to-do's you can see in the bug tracker and in the list of long promised features. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.99.24 powered by Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! 4.x and digital signed plugins
Hello George, on Monday, 8. October 2007, at 12:11:35 [GMT +0200] you wrote regarding TheBat! 4.x and digital signed plugins: I agree completely. This subject was also discussed at TB Dev and I suggested a model like XP driver signature to be followed. IE the user should be given a choice to accept or discard an unsigned plug-in. That's a very good idea. While I understand Ritlabs concerns I completely disagree with the enforcement of the above rule. GIVE USERS A CHOICE! I hope we can convince Ritlabs to do your suggest model. Best way and the well developed plugins don't produce AV's. More, Ritlabs should develope the API so that more kind of plugins and possibilities are given. GIVE USERS A CHOICE! -- Ciao Thomas Using: TheBat! 3.99.24 System: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP:Key-ID: 0x70D9F03B Visit: TheBat! World on http://www.thebatworld.de Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! 4.x and digital signed plugins
Hello Peter, on Monday, 8. October 2007, at 12:22:46 [GMT +0200] you wrote regarding TheBat! 4.x and digital signed plugins: I agree completely. This subject was also discussed at TB Dev and I suggested a model like XP driver signature to be followed. IE the user should be given a choice to accept or discard an unsigned plug-in. Good suggestion, i agree. I also won't upgrade if i can not use my beloved and for me essential plugins. -- Ciao Thomas Using: TheBat! 3.99.24 System: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP:Key-ID: 0x70D9F03B Visit: TheBat! World on http://www.thebatworld.de Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! 4.x and digital signed plugins
Hello Sebastian, on Monday, 8. October 2007, at 10:57:18 [GMT +0200] you wrote regarding TheBat! 4.x and digital signed plugins: Thereareintotal58pluginsi am aware of: http://www.thebatworld.de/modules/download/index.php?op=viewlinkcid= To this 58 plugins you can add: - JavaScript Macros 0.4 beta 19 - add JavaScript support in templates (example below - attachment list), customizable menu like in Can you please give a link? Seams interesting, is it digital signed? LOL -- Ciao Thomas Using: TheBat! 3.99.24 System: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP:Key-ID: 0x70D9F03B Visit: TheBat! World on http://www.thebatworld.de Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPF for thebat.net
Hello Maxim, on Monday, 8. October 2007, at 05:35:38 [GMT +0200] you wrote regarding SPF for thebat.net: We have adjusted the SPF for thebat.net, could you please check this out and let us know the results? no problems sending and receiving. -- Ciao Thomas Using: TheBat! 3.99.24 System: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP:Key-ID: 0x70D9F03B Visit: TheBat! World on http://www.thebatworld.de Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access Denied at www.ritlabs.com
Hello Peter, on Sunday, 7. October 2007, at 13:34:56 [GMT +0200] you wrote regarding Access Denied at www.ritlabs.com: MM Who had a problem Access Denied at www.ritlabs.com, please try again! MM We have fixed the problem. problem solved, login successful, GMail thebat.net account created and activated. Sorry folks but what is the sence of all this, creating an account on a SPAMMER Provider and email adress as thebat.net? I am missing something here? -- Ciao Thomas Using: TheBat! 3.99.24 System: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP:Key-ID: 0x70D9F03B Visit: TheBat! World on http://www.thebatworld.de Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access Denied at www.ritlabs.com
Hello Maxim, on Sunday, 7. October 2007, at 18:12:21 [GMT +0200] you wrote regarding Access Denied at www.ritlabs.com: Sorry folks but what is the sence of all this, creating an account on a SPAMMER Provider and email adress as thebat.net? I am missing something here? Who is the SPAMMER Provider you are speaking about? the domain 'thebat.net'. Hm, seams i am mixing something up, am i? -- Ciao Thomas Using: TheBat! 3.99.24 System: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP:Key-ID: 0x70D9F03B Visit: TheBat! World on http://www.thebatworld.de Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! 4.x and digital signed plugins
Hello Maxim, on Saturday, 6. October 2007, at 22:26:47 [GMT +0200] you wrote regarding TheBat! 4.x and digital signed plugins: Also, any software that applies for Certified for logo needs to have a digital signature, not a just executables of unknown origin. Ok, as there is no answer i had a look arround. Seams that developer of plugins need to BUY, yes to BUY such a certificate. Folks are you joking? Most developer don't can't afford to buy certificates, meaning that the best plugins will not anymore available for TheBat! 4.x If this is true TheBat! is going back to the 18th century. There are thousands of users out there which won't be able to use some very efective and beloved plugins anymore. Special the German comunity developed some very good plugins. So what the storry Maxim? -- Ciao Thomas Using: TheBat! 3.99.24 System: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP:Key-ID: 0x70D9F03B Visit: TheBat! World on http://www.thebatworld.de Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! 4.x and digital signed plugins
Hello Maxim, on Monday, 8. October 2007, at 04:27:56 [GMT +0200] you wrote regarding TheBat! 4.x and digital signed plugins: Which plugins are you speaking about? Could you please name them, i.e. give the list? There are in total 58 plugins i am aware of: http://www.thebatworld.de/modules/download/index.php?op=viewlinkcid=8 Most used and not commercial are: - BayesFilter Plugin v2.0.4 - Regula AntiSpam Plugin 2.2.6 - AntispamSniper Plugin Freeware 2.6.1.5 (they published on there homepage the imcompatibility with TheBat! 4.0) - MyMakros 1.11a - XMP - Extended Macro Plugin 1.1.8 - Google Desktop Plugin 2.0.0.7 - RSS2POP3 0.16 - etc. -- Ciao Thomas Using: TheBat! 3.99.24 System: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP:Key-ID: 0x70D9F03B Visit: TheBat! World on http://www.thebatworld.de Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! 4.x and digital signed plugins
Hello Maxim, on Monday, 8. October 2007, at 04:27:56 [GMT +0200] you wrote regarding TheBat! 4.x and digital signed plugins: Which plugins are you speaking about? Could you please name them, i.e. give the list? some more very popular: - AVP 1.0.0 Manager - Avira AntiVir PE v7 - F-Prot Manager Anti-Virus Plugin 1.5.0 the list goes on. -- Ciao Thomas Using: TheBat! 3.99.24 System: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP:Key-ID: 0x70D9F03B Visit: TheBat! World on http://www.thebatworld.de Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! 4.x and digital signed plugins
Hello Hendrik, on Monday, 8. October 2007, at 04:48:29 [GMT +0200] you wrote regarding TheBat! 4.x and digital signed plugins: How much cost such an certificate? It's not only a question of costs. The problem is that Ritlabs is limiting his own program. Reducing TheBat! usable only with comercial plugins. Till know the best plugins come from private developers. I can't undertsand this step at all. -- Ciao Thomas Using: TheBat! 3.99.24 System: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP:Key-ID: 0x70D9F03B Visit: TheBat! World on http://www.thebatworld.de Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: test creating @thebat.net
Hello Maxim, on Saturday, 6. October 2007, at 21:56:00 [GMT +0200] you wrote regarding test creating @thebat.net: Could you please test creating @thebat.net mail account based on the login name of your www.ritlabs.com ? thebat.net is google-based mail hosting that provides spam and virus-free POP3/SMTP with webmail Sorry is that realy you Maxim? TheBat.net is a spammer adress. Please calrify. -- Ciao Thomas Using: TheBat! 3.99.24 System: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP:Key-ID: 0x70D9F03B Visit: TheBat! World on http://www.thebatworld.de Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
