Re: Attachments not deleted with messages
Hello Chris, I have thought my Attachments directory was huge, and I spotted several .jpg files in it that should have been deleted when I deleted the parent messages. I just did a test and sent a mail to myself with an image attached. I deleted the message and then emptied the Trash folder. The image has not been deleted from the Attachments folder, even after closing and re-opening TB! Tried this several times, attachments not deleted... I think you should open a BT report at https://bt.ritlabs.com/ -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.8.10 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments question
Hello Robin, Monday, January 14, 2008, 9:59:17 PM, you wrote: Actually the other way around! I have tried both and can not see any difference in the results. -- Thanks, Terry Using the Bat! 3.99.3 under Windows XP Service Pack 2 2600 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments question
[EMAIL PROTECTED] @ 2008-1-14 12:29:30 PM Attachments question mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All, I recently posted a question about the maximum file (.tbb) size that the Bat! can handle. My friend started getting warnings when the inbox approached 2 gigs. That number stunned me (and a few of you) as I have over 20,000 messages in 1 account and it's barely 100 megs. As it turns out, he has picture attachments included with most emails (he's in the gallery biz) and I'm pretty sure that's what's the cause of the 2 gig .tbb file. That makes sense to me. (An interesting side note: due to the standard method of encoding attachments, an encoded attachment is typically about 4/3 as large as the original file.) So to my question. If I split the attachments from the emails will this help? I noticed that you can give attachments their own special directory, rather than keeping them in the message bodies. Are there any drawbacks to this method? Yes, it will. However, you lose a bit of the linkage between the e-mail and the attachment. I know that in previous versions, deleting a message with and attachment stored in an external directory did not delete the attachment as well. This may have changed. Can someone else fill in the details? Also, there is an option to bind attachments only when sending out mail. What does this mean? If unchecked, right before the message is sent, The Bat! will open the attached file and encode it. Any changes you make between attaching the file and sending it WILL be sent. If checked, The Bat! will encode the file the moment you attach the file. Any changes you make between attaching the file and sending it WILL NOT be sent. -- Christopher Using The Bat! v3.99.25 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. When in doubt, use brute force. -Ken Thompson pgpIgcX5DRy6S.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments question
Hello NickOhare, On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:29:30 -0500 GMT (15/01/2008, 01:29 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NZc So to my question. If I split the attachments from the emails NZc will this help? I noticed that you can give attachments their own NZc special directory, rather than keeping them in the message NZc bodies. Are there any drawbacks to this method? Yes, it will help. I haven't used that in years, but I the drawback may be that when you delete the message, the attachment is not deleted (I don't know whether they have fixed that.) When you move the message to another account, the attachment is not moved and therefore not associated with the message any more. Also, if you receive an attachment with the name 1.jpg and then in another messages the same, TB! will call the second one 1[1].jpg. In the end, when you look at the attachment directly, you will not know which attachments is what. NZc Also, there is an option to bind attachments only when sending NZc out mail. What does this mean? It means that if you alter the attachment again after creating the message but before sending, the altered attachment will be sent. I don't know whether it actually works, I never tried it. -- Cheers, Thomas. Sign in a Laundromat: AUTOMATIC WASHING MACHINES: PLEASE REMOVE ALL YOUR CLOTHES WHEN THE LIGHT GOES OUT http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments question
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 at 19:56:11 -0600, Christopher wrote: Also, there is an option to bind attachments only when sending out mail. What does this mean? If unchecked, right before the message is sent, The Bat! will open the attached file and encode it. Any changes you make between attaching the file and sending it WILL be sent. If checked, The Bat! will encode the file the moment you attach the file. Any changes you make between attaching the file and sending it WILL NOT be sent. Actually the other way around! If you check it, the version of the file that is current when you send the email is attached. If it is not checked, the version of the file that is current when the email was written is attached. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.99.25 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments question
Robin Anson @ 2008-1-14 9:59:17 PM Attachments question mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Also, there is an option to bind attachments only when sending out mail. What does this mean? Actually the other way around! If you check it, the version of the file that is current when you send the email is attached. If it is not checked, the version of the file that is current when the email was written is attached. Ritlabs like to write confusing option text... -- Christopher Using The Bat! v3.99.25 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. This message transmitted on 100% recycled electrons. pgp4AkSHMI2q9.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments not showing in Edit Mail Message window
Sunday, December 2, 2007, 4:20:13 AM, Roger Phillips wrote: JHK In what circumstances does this bug appear? Does it affect all JHK installations of the latest release? Who knows? It would be helpful if you give your OS and other installation details as part of your signature. I stated this information in my original message: The Bat! Home Edition 3.99.29 Windows Vista Home Premium English -- jhk Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments not showing in Edit Mail Message window
Hello Jarle, Friday, November 30, 2007, 11:48:33 PM, you wrote: The pane showing attached files is not displayed when I start a new message and attach a file. How can I fix this? I asked this a few days ago. Was told it will be fixed in next version. -- Best regards, Mean Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments not showing in Edit Mail Message window
Hello Mean, Saturday, December 1, 2007, 10:45:22 PM, you wrote: Hello Jarle, Friday, November 30, 2007, 11:48:33 PM, you wrote: The pane showing attached files is not displayed when I start a new message and attach a file. How can I fix this? I asked this a few days ago. Was told it will be fixed in next version. When is the next version due? This bug makes the program of somewhat limited use to me, as I often have to send attachments. Now there is now way to make sure the right files are attached. In what circumstances does this bug appear? Does it affect all installations of the latest release? Will a downgrade to a previous version help? Are previous versions available for download? -- jhk Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments
Wednesday, April 18, 2007, Henri Maussang wrote: The attachment (video) is pretty big : 3.8 Mb. It stays in the Outbox for ever. It stays in the outbox until it has been sent. Use View - Show Connection Center to verify that it really is being sent. -- Urban Alice laughed: There's no use trying, she said; one can't believe impossible things. I daresay you haven't had much practice, said the Queen. When I was younger, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast. Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments
On Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 1:00:57 PM, Henri Maussang wrote: The progress bar is complete (green) in few seconds, but the connection Center stays on. This probably means that the sending process is not completing. There are no specific size limits in TheBat!, but your ISP may apply limits to either email message sizes or attachment types. Can you send via a different ISP or via Webmail? I sometimes have this problem, but have not found a particular cause. Try opening the message again and then putting it back into the Outbox before sending. Also have a look at the log (Account|View Log or ctrl+shift+A) to see if there is an explanation. Is the email address valid? Have you sent other messages successfully to that address? Julian -- Using The Bat! v3.98.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments
Hallo Henri, On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:30:37 +0200GMT (18-4-2007, 10:30 +0200, where I live), you wrote: HM I'm new to The Bat! In that case: Welcome. HM and have already sent several messages including HM attachments. HM But one gives me problem : HM The attachment (video) is pretty big : 3.8 Mb. It stays in the Outbox HM for ever. HM Is there a limit size for the attachments ? TB has no limit, but an attachment of 3.8 MB gives you a message of over 5 MB (that's not a TB thing, but a MIME-encoding thing) and 5 MB is a limit many ISPs use. moderator on This would have been a very good spot to place your signature delimiter. A signature delimiter or cut sign is dash dash space enter on a single line. The cut sign causes that TB will drop anything below it when quoting. And it's obligatory on list messages, you can easily automate that by entering it in the templates for this list. moderator off HM Thanks HM Henri [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Groetjes, Roelof As long as I can remember, I've had amnesia. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.98.12 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 2 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpfFWX3jGBzO.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments missing from messages forwarded by a filter
Hi On Tuesday 3 October 2006 at 7:04:48 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], MFPA wrote: Hi I have a filter set to forward a copy of particular messages [...] the messages are forwarded without attachments. If I forward manually the body of the forwarded message is identical but the attachments are present. Does automating the forwarding cause the attachments not to be sent? If so, is there a workaround? If not, what have I overlooked? Anybody? -- Best regards, MFPA It's better to feed one cat than many mice Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments open with a different name
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi On Thursday 8 June 2006 at 2:43:37 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Chris wrote: You don't anyway. Just reply and the -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- has disappeared. Oops. No it hasn't. Sorry, my bad. The cut mark still works after gaining an extra dash space at the beginning, so I should think all is hunky dory... That bit is true, though. I don't experience that. I have to delete it every time. Do you have some fancy REGEX that you use in your template? No. Unless you actually verify the PGP signature. This seems leave a cut mark missing the trailing space and therefore non-functional. Same happens if you decrypt a (non-MIME) PGP-encrypted message. To clarify the point, the PGP sig is of course gone but the conventional sig remains. Can anybody reproduce this? Cannot confirm using GnuPG 1.4.2.2 Using PGP 8.1 with TB!'s v5,6,7,8 built-in support. Another benefit I just realize after adding the paragraph above (after queuing to send): The Bat! will automatically strip out the old signature and re-sign the edited message. Benefit of PGP/MIME, I take it? Yes. Hold on - doesn't that happen with PGP-inline too? - -- Best regards, MFPA We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: iQCVAwUBRI8Uw6ipC46tDG5pAQGZyQP/eViGvrD7SLCRL3vkTEpQiGxFQpv8kUvS a+l+DLhVstM7K/lfbBjZFzgXmzPeJhrz9cU9nG1iDzq7JfSr4X1Pk9bz+nz7Ro+y j+o1zrwc4dUIbvDMxUvXB0xquMj2jgADxU4GQBW4GxLMi4WCNDncQtOnAmOuW6zZ G8tHHtPlgOY= =rEpt -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments open with a different name
MFPA @ 2006-6-13 3:40:27 PM Attachments open with a different name mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Another benefit I just realize after adding the paragraph above (after queuing to send): The Bat! will automatically strip out the old signature and re-sign the edited message. Benefit of PGP/MIME, I take it? Yes. Hold on - doesn't that happen with PGP-inline too? Not in my experience. If I forget to trip out the in-line PGP stuff, and re-enable signing, I'll get an invalid signature if I try to verify the signature. -- Chris Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) pgpFuEGTt2SrG.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments open with a different name
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hi On Wednesday 7 June 2006 at 12:26:42 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Chris wrote: it makes replying to your messages easier (I don't have to manually delete the -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- and related text. You don't anyway. Just reply and the -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- has disappeared. The cut mark still works after gaining an extra dash space at the beginning, so I should think all is hunky dory... Unless you actually verify the PGP signature. This seems leave a cut mark missing the trailing space and therefore non-functional. Same happens if you decrypt a (non-MIME) PGP-encrypted message. Can anybody reproduce this? I may log it on issue tracker in a few days if I have the time, as I am sure this behaviour cannot be by design. However, I agree with you for the most part. Most people seem to be able to ignore the -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-, but can't seem to ignore the mystery attachment their e-mail client displays for a PGP MIME message. We all seem to manage ignoring the HTML attachment many people send along with a few lines of text, as well as the screenfuls of disclaimers at the bottom of messages sent from corporate systems. (-; Another benefit I just realize after adding the paragraph above (after queuing to send): The Bat! will automatically strip out the old signature and re-sign the edited message. Benefit of PGP/MIME, I take it? Here, an inline-signed PGP message keeps the -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- but the cut mark works so the PGP sig is not quoted in the reply. ( Provided you do not verify the sig). If you do verify the sig, the -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- goes and so does the PGP sig but due to the broken cut mark the ordinary (non-PGP) signature appears in the reply . - -- Best regards, MFPA Yellow snow is not lemon flavoured Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: iQCVAwUBRIdsQqipC46tDG5pAQMznQP/QURaO4q2GEOp3CTW3GpsXr1arD355ja0 3Z7jhpMBHy1I+G/+VysHtfTUL1XYgNBSiGkPGMXwzUbiNkF3DdALNFemHTVdl5k2 GakyTKwhzOyXHLuuu3spXkzgrcJryG6+pLmO17K6+qYkzkXRgkN7pMQJFznO3gDE QH6iNraMWYI= =BQG5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments open with a different name
MFPA @ 2006-6-07 8:15:26 PM Attachments open with a different name mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You don't anyway. Just reply and the -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- has disappeared. The cut mark still works after gaining an extra dash space at the beginning, so I should think all is hunky dory... I don't experience that. I have to delete it every time. Do you have some fancy REGEX that you use in your template? Unless you actually verify the PGP signature. This seems leave a cut mark missing the trailing space and therefore non-functional. Same happens if you decrypt a (non-MIME) PGP-encrypted message. Can anybody reproduce this? Cannot confirm using GnuPG 1.4.2.2 We all seem to manage ignoring the HTML attachment many people send along with a few lines of text, as well as the screenfuls of disclaimers at the bottom of messages sent from corporate systems. (-; Don't we all know... Another benefit I just realize after adding the paragraph above (after queuing to send): The Bat! will automatically strip out the old signature and re-sign the edited message. Benefit of PGP/MIME, I take it? Yes. -- Chris Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. There's no point in being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes. -The Doctor pgpMG8RL4k6Jb.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments open with a different name
Hello Chris,
On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
C I don't experience that. I have to delete it every time. Do you have
C some fancy REGEX that you use in your template?
Try adding this one to your reply template. Its' in the macro list
somewhere, can't remember where, but it strips everything out on the
reply:
%QUOTES='%SETPATTREGEXP=(?is)%-
((\s*)?\n?-BEGIN PGP SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?%-
(\s*(Dear|Hi|Hello|Hey|Greetings|Howdy) \S*?\s*\n+)?%-
(-+[\S ]+\n)?%-
(.*?)(^(%-
- -*?\s*?--\s*\n|%-
_{40,}\s*\n|%-
-{40,}\s*\n|%-
\n-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE.*s?\n|%-
--+\s+.*roups.*~--\)|%-
\n\nYour use of|%-
\n+Get your FREE download|%-
\nNote that the email address of the sender has been changed|%-
\n---\nOutgoing mail is certified Virus Free.|%-
\z)%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%text%SUBPATT=7'
--
Regards,
Richard
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Re: Attachments open with a different name
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi On Tuesday 6 June 2006 at 1:54:02 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Chris wrote: Do you think that you could turn on PGP MIME for this list? Why? I dislike it intensely. - -- Best regards, MFPA The truth is out there. Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: iQCVAwUBRIX3RaipC46tDG5pAQEj0gQArCObRzuop6vi2ZKi+PW5kq9mxDRdNoLM 7byqhqVqzHeVnZyOJRBticeXDPqb/6GLB6Edo0AdelLmcoZrrbUszr8Zw7NsVzvf V7IAfFI7R0f009OIETXivzhfduliBSFfqqLhtoqTSUqyY9N+3QRd/LZ5M7A2IZiA An31KlHdWWI= =LXeq -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments open with a different name
MFPA @ 2006-6-06 5:44:31 PM Attachments open with a different name mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you think that you could turn on PGP MIME for this list? Why? I dislike it intensely. Since our e-mail client can handle it nicely (i.e., it knows it's there, but doesn't show it), it makes replying to your messages easier (I don't have to manually delete the -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- and related text. However, I agree with you for the most part. Most people seem to be able to ignore the -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-, but can't seem to ignore the mystery attachment their e-mail client displays for a PGP MIME message. Another benefit I just realize after adding the paragraph above (after queuing to send): The Bat! will automatically strip out the old signature and re-sign the edited message. -- Chris Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. A .44 magnum beats four aces. pgplos7intKIx.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments open with a different name
Hello MFPA everyone else, on 05-Jun-2006 at 01:28 you (MFPA) wrote: If you store the attachments in the message body, the attachment must be extracted from the messagebase and saved as a temporary file before opening it. Thats the different name you're seeing. Other mail clients I use / have used normally manage to give the temporary file the same filename as the attachment itself. And other mail clients I use give a temporary filename just like TB. :-) Storing separately has always seemed awkward to me. YMMV of course (-; No, I store attachments in the messagebase as well. Its just not important for me what the attachments name is when I open it from within TB. If I want to keep it, I save it to my harddisk anyway and, depending on the size, remove it from the message in TB. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes. -- Mark Twain Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments open with a different name
Hello Robin Anson everyone else, on 05-Jun-2006 at 05:23 you (Robin Anson) wrote: I don't think it is directly a bug. TB must deal with the temporary files somehow. True, but why not in the same way it does with attachments stored separately? I am not Ritlabs and can't answer that. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) It is a condition which confronts us - not a theory. -- Grover Cleveland Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments open with a different name
On Mon, 5 Jun 2006 at 10:32:09 +0200, Alexander wrote: True, but why not in the same way it does with attachments stored separately? I am not Ritlabs and can't answer that. :-) That's okay, it was a rhetorical question anyway. ;-) -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.80.06 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments open with a different name
Robin Anson @ 2006-6-04 11:23:39 PM Attachments open with a different name mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't think it is directly a bug. TB must deal with the temporary files somehow. True, but why not in the same way it does with attachments stored separately? When The Bat! is extracting/decoding the file, it stores it in the temporary folder. Lest The Bat! overwrite some other application's temporary file, it uses a random, unique filename. -- Chris Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. It's hard to write foolproof software because there are so many fools, and they are very inventive. pgp3Ss3leMF1e.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments open with a different name
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi On Monday 5 June 2006 at 9:05:33 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Chris wrote: When The Bat! is extracting/decoding the file, it stores it in the temporary folder. Lest The Bat! overwrite some other application's temporary file, it uses a random, unique filename. Why use the random/unique string as the filename? It could be the name for a folder containing the file. - -- Best regards, MFPA Always borrow money from a pessimist - they don't expect it back Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: iQCVAwUBRITJhqipC46tDG5pAQFQTQP/VHxJGLR3UElqN3Ha4EMYFFMHM4Qs9GHB 01Beg/vQ7giGFSSg+UqgUWgcdUyo9p2RLmrCJdRzfpVodrfnUtBGjlpm2ScsJY0O x9LUxz00Zqqj8c0j2S+Scy9nGyUDHwhrJKQlm7vtWeoay1SJlAxmqdBpnzjA8J1o bpZfIH0UGF8= =vOYm -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments open with a different name
MFPA @ 2006-6-05 8:17:07 PM Attachments open with a different name mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Do you think that you could turn on PGP MIME for this list? When The Bat! is extracting/decoding the file, it stores it in the temporary folder. Lest The Bat! overwrite some other application's temporary file, it uses a random, unique filename. Why use the random/unique string as the filename? It could be the name for a folder containing the file. I don't know. It's probably the return from GetTempFileName(). -- Chris Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. You can go anywhere you want if you look serious and carry a clipboard. pgpJv2AawJZt6.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments open with a different name
Hello MFPA! On Sunday, June 04, 2006, 1:53 PM, you wrote: When I open an attachment it opens with a different name to that displayed in the message below its icon. Confirmed. I know this is trivial but it is an irritation if you open an attachment before saving it. I agree. I have reported this at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5901 Just now put a confirming note there. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments open with a different name
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi On Sunday 4 June 2006 at 8:09:05 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Mary Bull wrote: Hello MFPA! On Sunday, June 04, 2006, 1:53 PM, you wrote: When I open an attachment it opens with a different name to that displayed in the message below its icon. Confirmed. I know this is trivial but it is an irritation if you open an attachment before saving it. I agree. I have reported this at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5901 Just now put a confirming note there. Thank you. - -- Best regards, MFPA I'll tell you what's the matter! This parrot is dead! Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: iQCVAwUBRIMyS6ipC46tDG5pAQHnZQQAxHIfd/ziV8UHPc9/rpeA5JZGKofbDD8P NpaDBU2jpgnu83NeEUt7/Bo5SQCYn+ewpEJ/cPvyVD3d/yjieYYSMbnrQn7/UEH3 XgNZJG7PAjXmwCs8XeG9oY+gmheitueUPX2VT3LyYHHe44P27NXVmlXf67tU2YL/ Rl3WlfOCYt8= =ht+R -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments open with a different name
Hello MFPA everyone else, on 04-Jun-2006 at 20:53 you (MFPA) wrote: When I open an attachment it opens with a different name to that displayed in the message below its icon. It depends on your configuration. If you store the attachments in the message body, the attachment must be extracted from the messagebase and saved as a temporary file before opening it. Thats the different name you're seeing. If you select to store attachments separately, the attachement can be opened directly. If you receive multiple messages with the same attachment, the filename will still not match the attachment, because in that case, TB adds a number to the filename to distinguish between the different attachments from different messages. I know this is trivial but it is an irritation if you open an attachment before saving it. I have reported this at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5901 I don't think it is directly a bug. TB must deal with the temporary files somehow. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) NP: Rhythmism 4 by Ubar Tmar (from the 1998 album True) Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments open with a different name
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi On Sunday 4 June 2006 at 10:12:13 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Alexander S. Kunz wrote: If you store the attachments in the message body, the attachment must be extracted from the messagebase and saved as a temporary file before opening it. Thats the different name you're seeing. Other mail clients I use / have used normally manage to give the temporary file the same filename as the attachment itself. If you select to store attachments separately, the attachement can be opened directly. If you receive multiple messages with the same attachment, the filename will still not match the attachment, because in that case, TB adds a number to the filename to distinguish between the different attachments from different messages. Storing separately has always seemed awkward to me. YMMV of course (-; I have reported this at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5901 I don't think it is directly a bug. TB must deal with the temporary files somehow. Bug or otherwise, it is a *slight* inconvenience / irritation. Whilst TB! names the temp file with a string of letters and numbers, another mail client I use stores the temp file _with the original attachment name_ in a temp folder named with a string of letters/numbers. - -- Best regards, MFPA Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals. Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: iQCVAwUBRINs1aipC46tDG5pAQEWBAQAjqYH4ykV7rtnkcTGTz36YYNlWRzh8itF /h2ZVvA6pu7fmqTQJevLmg7u8Tak8v1RWyuvHmjg4SWla96txGWY3m6gsY0H9HE9 +IfWZCIBrKRSXp6wta65/wXpnvnO8+Y86L94X20yiaRsGPMUOirQtG1nIl5RCkDK 0IMXWST0KYw= =UgTP -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments open with a different name
On Sun, 4 Jun 2006 at 23:12:13 +0200, Alexander wrote: If you store the attachments in the message body, the attachment must be extracted from the messagebase and saved as a temporary file before opening it. Thats the different name you're seeing. If you select to store attachments separately, the attachement can be opened directly. If you receive multiple messages with the same attachment, the filename will still not match the attachment, because in that case, TB adds a number to the filename to distinguish between the different attachments from different messages. ...snip... I don't think it is directly a bug. TB must deal with the temporary files somehow. True, but why not in the same way it does with attachments stored separately? -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.80.06 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments pane lost
Hello to myself and anyone else reading this thread!! On Thursday, June 01, 2006, 10:55 AM, Mary wrote: For several days now, the attachments pane has not been showing for me in the View Folder window. Sorry for prematurely bothering everyone--I've now displayed an old message with about a dozen attachments, and in this one I was able to discern the dividing line between the attachments pane and the message body. By dragging the line, I got the pane to show again. ... In the View Folder Window's View menu, I have Attached Files/Hide (to pane) checked and also Attached Files/Pane on the left checked. However, if I uncheck this, the unchecking does not stick. Confirmations that it does not stick in other people's copies of The Bat! ? This bad behaviour still exists for me. Again, any confirmations? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments Macro
Hallo BJH, On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 12:42:25 +GMT (14-11-2005, 13:42 +0100, where I live), you wrote: B I would like to use the %Attachments macro to list any files attached to a B message so I've placed it into my 'New Message' template but it doesn't B seem to work. The %Attachments macro is called as soon as you create the message. When you don't have attachments when you start to edit the message body then the macro won't list the attachments. But when you create the message, add the attachments and then edit the body then you'll get your list. When you prefer to create your message and afterwards add attachments, then you should use a QT with the %Attachments macro that you call after you're done done. -- Groetjes, Roelof Error 99: Dead mouse in hard drive. The Bat! 3.62.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpI1ErBCLuIu.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments Macro
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 14:46:39 +0100, Roelof Otten wrote: The %Attachments macro is called as soon as you create the message. When you don't have attachments when you start to edit the message body then the macro won't list the attachments. But when you create the message, add the attachments and then edit the body then you'll get your list. When you prefer to create your message and afterwards add attachments, then you should use a QT with the %Attachments macro that you call after you're done done. OK, got it, thanks thanks... -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.62.14 and BayesIt! 0.8.4 Release Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments, raw bodies and REGEXPMATCH.
Roelof Otten: The only work around I can think of is with a filter that triggers on the messages with those attachments, and set as actions to extract the attachments, import those attachments (run TB as an external program with the /import parameter) ... Robin Anson: you might be able to do what you want by creating a filter that exports the message, and then running a batch file on that exported message to process it. ... Thank you both, I will try. I can't help suggesting to add some %OMESSAGESOURCE macro, sort of, to the powerful script language in The Bat, if possible. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 3.62.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments, raw bodies and REGEXPMATCH.
Hallo Luca, On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:07:41 +0200GMT (29-10-2005, 14:07 +0200, where I live), you wrote: L I need to estract the subject: fields from message headers contained in .msg L attachments, and use these subjects to compose automatic replies. You cannot do that. The only work around I can think of is with a filter that triggers on the messages with those attachments, and set as actions to extract the attachments, import those attachments (run TB as an external program with the /import parameter) As those imported messages won't be filtered, you need to import them into a separate folder and set a schedule to re-filter that folder regularly with a filter that creates the automatic reply. However, This will reply to the original attached message, but not the message you really received. -- Groetjes, Roelof I prefer to call it: The Prime Suggestion - Kirk The Bat! 3.62.05 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpdstXe3Q9Ve.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments, raw bodies and REGEXPMATCH.
Luca On Sat 29 October 2005, 23:07:41 +1000, you wrote: I need to estract the subject: fields from message headers contained in .msg attachments, and use these subjects to compose automatic replies. My problem is that in my auto-reply template I don't know how to tell TB to search the original attachment, or the whole raw message, for strings that match the regexp (?-s)Subject:.*. I was only able to search the original message text (with %REGEXPTEXT or %REGEXPMATCH) where of course TB can't find the subject I need, since it is in the .msg attachment. You can't do it with TB! alone, although you might be able to do what you want by creating a filter that exports the message, and then running a batch file on that exported message to process it. The batch file could open it in an editor with macro capability (I use UltraEdit) that can then extract the required subject and either write it to a text file or to the clipboard. Then when the editor closes the filter could create a message creating the subject from the text file or by pasting the clipboard. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments
Hello Stuart! On Thursday, May 12, 2005, 1:36 PM, you wrote: Can someone answer a couple of questions about attachments. I will try, for the few that I know the answer to. I currently keep my attachments with my messages, but have been contemplating the idea of keeping them separate. What are some of the advantages/disadvantages? I keep mine separately. I don't know whether it's true, but my reason is that I think they would be easier to retrieve from the backup file, if necessary. Do all accounts share the same attachment folder or is it by account or by folder? Each account has a separate Attachments folder. I've just looked in my TB! directory--the path is The Bat!/MAIL/m.bull/Attach, and they are all accessible, a separate file to each attachment, arranged numerically/alphabetically. I assume if you store them separately that the original message has a pointer to the attachment? The original message keeps its attachment icon. So, I can look in my sister's folder in my m.bull account on TB!'s folder tree, and have another look from there at her Retirement honors poem, without having saved that attachment file in My Documents or wherever, necessitating a search through one of my text editors/word processors. To me it's the best of both worlds--attachment available through my TB! folder for my sister, or, if I've saved it, through opening it in a text editor. Further, even if I didn't save it and I remember what she named it when she sent it to me, I can ask Word or Open Office to look in C:/Program Files/The Bat!!/MAIL/m.bull/Attach, and retrieve it to the word processor that way. What happens when you receive 2 attachments in separate messages that are named the same thing. Does one overwrite the other? I don't know. I'll try an experiment with that, with some mails to myself, and see if I can report back to you later on what happens. TIA You're welcome. However, others may know more about the mechanics of this and the advantages/disadvantages than I do. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments
On Thursday, May 12, 2005, 1:36:53 PM, Stuart Cuddy wrote: I currently keep my attachments with my messages, but have been contemplating the idea of keeping them separate. What are some of the advantages/disadvantages? I used to keep mine separately, but got tired of going back and deleting all the graphics files which came with html spam. I was getting spam.gif, spam1.gif, spam2.gif, etc. Similar problem with those pesky .msg files, and even all the .png files from tbbeta. I was on a mailing list where some people had their .vcf files attached to every post and those would stack up as well. And I can't tell you how many copies of that blue sky with a few clouds background for Outlook mail I would accumulate between housecleanings. I'm much happier now that I have taken to keeping messages with attachments. I should add that when I started with TB! I was certain that storing separately was the way to go, and I did it that way for a long time. If it wasn't for all that html spam I suppose I still would. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments
Hello Stuart, On Thu, 12 May 2005 13:36:53 -0500 GMT (13/05/2005, 01:36 +0700 GMT), Stuart Cuddy wrote: SC I currently keep my attachments with my messages, but have been SC contemplating the idea of keeping them separate. What are some of SC the advantages/disadvantages? Advantage of keeping them seperately: o The message base itself is not so huge, making searching faster o You can search in DOS/Windows for the file name and use (for example open, copy etc) it without having to search through the TB database. o When you open them from the message by double-clicking on the attachment icon, the file name will be shown (as opposed some temp file name like 3df545m.doc). Advantage of keeping them in message body: o That's where they belong. It don't want every attachment (incredimail.gif) stored. Leave it in the message and I delete it if I want, no extra files flying around. SC Do all accounts share the same attachment folder or is it by account SC or by folder? One attachments folder per account. SC I assume if you store them separately that the original message has SC a pointer to the attachment? Yes. SC What happens when you receive 2 attachments in separate messages SC that are named the same thing. Does one overwrite the other? No. First attachment mypicture.jpg is stored under this name, the second picture with the same name is stored as mypicture1.jpg. And this defeats the whole purpose of the second advantage mentioned above. I used to store attachments seperately, but have since changed to store them in message body. There was also another issue (don't know whether it has been solved in the meantime): When you deleted the message, the attachment was sometimes orphaned in the attachment folder, filling it up over time. Another problem was with moving or copying messages, the attachment should be moved/copied too (what if I copy within the same account?). Since I have no problems with huge tbb files (they don't corrupt, and search is still very fast), I am happy with storing attachments in the body. There is the one odd attachment per day that I want to use as a file, I just right-click on the attachment and choose save as - this way, I can also choose the directory I want and don't need to copy from the attachment directory. -- Cheers, Thomas. Follow a few paces behind someone, spraying everything they touch with a can of Lysol. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments
Hello Stuart, Thursday, May 12, 2005, 1:36:53 PM, you wrote: SC Can someone answer a couple of questions about attachments. Thanks Mary, Dwight and Thomas. Food for thought, although it looks to me like I will stay as I am. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC8 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments
Hello Stuart! On Thursday, May 12, 2005, 9:46 PM, you wrote: SC Can someone answer a couple of questions about attachments. Thanks Mary, Dwight and Thomas. Food for thought, although it looks to me like I will stay as I am. It's possible that I will change, having read Thomas's thoughtful analysis and the explanations from Roelof Otten, Miguel A. Urech, and Peter Palmreuther on the similar thread on TBBETA. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.5 Return RC9 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments
Hello Stuart, Wednesday, January 19, 2005, 2:13:00 PM, you wrote and sent the following: I notice that when I download a message with an attachment such as .doc or .xls that the icon beside the attachment shows the icon for the program that will open the attachment. This does not happen with .html or .pdf documents. Is there a reason for this and can it be fixed so that they do show up. Do these types of documents show properly when on your desktop? HTML and PDF icons show just fine in TB! on my machine. Do they open with the proper program when double-clicked? I have also noticed that when you click on an attachment and select Open, you get a message warning you about opening the document. It also has a note inferring that you can permanently remove this warning. If this is possible can you explain how? Hold down the shift key while double-clicking the attachment or Options - Preferences - Protection remove *.* from Always display warning about these files. -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 You can't say that civilizations don't advance, however, for in every war they kill you in a new way. --Will Rogers, New York Times, Dec. 23, 1929 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments
Hello Stuart, I notice that when I download a message with an attachment such as .doc or .xls that the icon beside the attachment shows the icon for the program that will open the attachment. This does not happen with .html or .pdf documents. Is there a reason for this and can it be fixed so that they do show up. I have seen this happen just a few times with .html and I don't blame TB, at least 100%. The way I have recovered is by re-selecting the icon for html in Windows Explorer: My steps in Win2000 are: - On Win Explorer select Tools/Folder Options/File types. - On the list of file types select html - On the frame for Details for HTML extension click on the Advance button. - When the Edit File Type dialog opens click on the Change Icon button. - On the Change Icon dialog enter the path for Internet Explorer which, in my case, is C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe and graphically select the icon I want to use. After that and after re-starting TB the html icon shows properly in TB. I assume the same thing should work for PDF or any other file type. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.6 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments in body or special directory?
Dear Marten, @6-Dec-2004, 20:46 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [MG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: MG Can anyone summarise the advantages and disadvantages of MG storing attachments in message bodies or in special folder? In the message body, folder / entire message integrity is far easier to maintain. Extracting attachments to a special folder means easier access to the files without having to load TB but less integration - messages can sometimes become detached from their attachments. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpQqYtbMpW98.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments in sent folder?
Hello Darrin, Sunday, August 15, 2004, 3:29:20 PM, you wrote: I was looking through my sent folder and noticed that my emails with image attachments showed the name of the attachment and the type but the size reads as 0 bytes and cant be opened. Is this normal? This happened to me when I was using backup and restore to keep thebat updated on two machines. My problem was caused by setting TB up in a different directory on one machine but using the default directory on the second machine. My attachments existed but were in the wrong directory so the attachments in the mail had the name but were of size 0. -- Thanks, Terry Using the Bat! 2.12.00 under Windows XP Service Pack 1 2600 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments in sent folder?
On 8/16/2004 8:12 AM my time, Terry wrote: TGM This happened to me when I was using backup and restore to keep thebat TGM updated on two machines. TGM My problem was caused by setting TB up in a different directory on one TGM machine but using the default directory on the second machine. TGM My attachments existed but were in the wrong directory so the TGM attachments in the mail had the name but were of size 0. Hi Terry, Thanks. Ill have to look into that. I think I did a system restore, but dont know if that had anything to do with it or not. -- Darrin WinXP Home Service Pack 1 Tbat! 2.12.00 Who is General Failure and why is he reading my disk? pgp2r12cbb70p.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments in sent folder?
Hello Darrin! On Sunday, August 15, 2004, 5:29 PM, you wrote: DR I was looking through my sent folder and noticed that my emails with DR image attachments showed the name of the attachment and the type but DR the size reads as 0 bytes and cant be opened. Is this normal? Not here. The last attachment I sent (just today), a small jpeg to my sister, says under the icon when I pass my cursor over it, in the sent mail, the name of the file and its size, 63,165 bytes. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments in sent folder?
On 8/15/2004 5:09 PM my time, Mary wrote: MB Not here. The last attachment I sent (just today), a small jpeg to my MB sister, says under the icon when I pass my cursor over it, in the sent MB mail, the name of the file and its size, 63,165 bytes. Hi Mary, Thanks for looking into it. Ill have to go through my options and see if its anything I did. -- Darrin WinXP Home Service Pack 1 Tbat! 2.12.00 C:\BELFRY is where I keep my .BAT files. pgpq3bH5hvaqj.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments in sent folder?
Hallo Darrin, On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 15:29:20 -0700GMT (16-8-2004, 0:29 +0200, where I live), you wrote: DR I was looking through my sent folder and noticed that my emails with DR image attachments showed the name of the attachment and the type but DR the size reads as 0 bytes and cant be opened. Is this normal? Not here, with a pop3 account and attachments stored in the message body. -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 2.13 Lucky Beta/5 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments when sending
Advantage: you're always sure you have the right version of the attachment that you actually sent or received (instead of a link/reference to the file you stored elsewhere on your hard drive, which you may have edited subsequently). Disadvantage: your mailboxes are bigger, since you're storing the attachment along with the rest. At 16:08 20/06/2004, you wrote: Can anyone tell me advantages and disadvantages of storing attachments in message bodies? Mary Fons Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments when sending
Hello, Richard! RHS I just sent an e-mail with two attachments to a group of friends. I RHS use a separate directory for storing incoming attachments, and I just RHS saw that it contained 18 copies of one attachment (the number of RHS recipients) and 38 of the other. (The files themselves remain in the RHS original directory.) How do I prevent it from placing duplicates of RHS the attachments in the attachment directory? Any explanation for why RHS it placed so many of the second? Maybe it's better to store attachments in message bodies? Can anyone tell me advantages and disadvantages of storing attachments in message bodies? -- Best regards, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Alexander Gladilin ICQ #154518000 Powered by TheBat! v2.11.04 Sunday, June 20, 2004 18:04:16 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments in replies?
Use the forward button. vince Date:Sun, 25 Apr 2004 16:42:32 +0300 From:Costas Papadopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ReplyTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Attachments in replies? Hello, I have a simple question: How can I reply to a message that has attachments and include all the attachments of the original message in my reply? Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments in replies?
Hello vince, Sunday, April 25, 2004, 8:26:40 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): Use the forward button. Thank you. It's not very intuitive, but it works. -- Best regards, Costasmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments not being deleted in Ver 2..01.3
Hello jon, I know this is not an answer to your question, but: Monday, December 1, 2003, 11:03:21 AM, you wrote: j - encode attachments using MIME Base64 a particular reason for this? (encode...) j - Keep attachment files Separately in a special directory j ticked - Delete attached files when a message is deleted from Trash folder Why put them in a seperate directory. j What now? Do I have settings wrong? Has the upgrade been in vain? Does it help if you use Folder / Maintenance / Compress? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 2.01.56 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, June 4, 2003, 12:07:25 PM, Allie wrote: DK Hm. Just tried it, and no, it seems that attachment is stored DK with original message. If I delete all the attachments from DK attachment directory, messages still keep the attachments - both DK the ones I received and the ones I sent. Are you using filters to extract the attachments, or are you using the account properties/option to 'store attachments in a separate directory'. No. I only use sorting office to make two copies of each message I receive. DK Do you have delete attachments when message is deleted from DK Trash turned off? Yes. I give up. Turning on that option pretty much solves the problem I've been having, but I don't know how. Domchi -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt Comment: KeyID: 0x33FAB7E4 Comment: Fingerprint: FD16 4946 03AF 4E93 5B0F EE8B B81E AA54 33FA B7E4 iQA/AwUBPt6FJ7geqlQz+rfkEQKLsgCfVMOzatHNjyM0W9EGE1NXbPYEuK0AoN5M wqvXDq1E79Vqv9gABVz+tP1C =qNnE -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Domagoj Klepac [DK] wrote: DK I'm trying to understand how TB handles the attachments. DK I have TB set to keep attachments in separate directory. However, DK even if I delete the file from that directory, it seems that it DK keeps the attachment in body of the message that was sent to me and DK which I archived. Why? I haven't kept attachments in a separate directory for a long time. However, from my experimentation, if you delete an attachment from it's corresponding 'Attach' directory, the attachment will seem to be still associated with the message until you select another message and then go back to the original. The attachment pane should no longer be there displaying an attachment. DK Is it the same with the attachments/messages I sent and archived to DK another folder? AFAIK, yes. DK When I delete the file in attachments directory, while the message is DK in outbox, attachment is eventually deleted and not sent. Yes. This is if you bind the attachment upon generation of the message and placement of it in the outbox for sending. DK Also, if I don't have Delete messages when emptied from the Trash DK turned on, if I attach the file, and write a message, it seems that TB DK saves a new copy of that file every 20 seconds in my case - or, on DK every auto-save of that message. That sometimes produces huge amount of DK unnecessary files in attachment directory. Is that a feature or a bug? I'm not really following you here so I can't try to reproduce what you say is happening. Be that as it may, it sounds like buggy behaviour to me. I did the following: I configured my editor to auto-save every 20 seconds. I configured an account to place attachments in a separated directory and the bind attachments only while sending mail is not enabled. I then created a new message and attached a file to it. Only one copy of the attachment is saved though at times the file name will change to file1.xxx and back to file.xxx between auto-saves. Still only one copy of the attachment remains when I save the message to the outbox. Upon sending the message to the trash, the attachment remains in the attachment directory. Upon deleting the message from the trash, the attachment is deleted from the attachment folder. I tried this with v1.62r DK What is Bind attachments only when sending out mail? How does that DK affect the above? You can use this option if you wish the latest version of the file to be attached for delivery with the message. However, without this option, the file is immediately bound to the message and you can alter the original without the altered copy being sent. - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBPt1Dc/1E1LttcDiXEQJfNACaA4ud+Q0oUbHDo7XCZE2lboI+zXMAnju/ Gr+h+zyWjKylBIAKsDPMt/D1 =nGMT -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, June 4, 2003, 2:55:15 AM, Allie wrote: DK I have TB set to keep attachments in separate directory. However, DK even if I delete the file from that directory, it seems that it DK keeps the attachment in body of the message that was sent to me DK and which I archived. Why? I haven't kept attachments in a separate directory for a long time. However, from my experimentation, if you delete an attachment from it's corresponding 'Attach' directory, the attachment will seem to be still associated with the message until you select another message and then go back to the original. The attachment pane should no longer be there displaying an attachment. Hm. Just tried it, and no, it seems that attachment is stored with original message. If I delete all the attachments from attachment directory, messages still keep the attachments - both the ones I received and the ones I sent. Those I didn't send yet lose attachments if I clear the attachment directory. Only way to delete attachment in message is to select attachment in TB, right-click, and choose delete. DK Also, if I don't have Delete messages when emptied from the DK Trash turned on, if I attach the file, and write a message, it DK seems that TB saves a new copy of that file every 20 seconds in DK my case - or, on every auto-save of that message. That sometimes DK produces huge amount of unnecessary files in attachment DK directory. Is that a feature or a bug? I'm not really following you here so I can't try to reproduce what you say is happening. Be that as it may, it sounds like buggy behaviour to me. I did the following: I configured my editor to auto-save every 20 seconds. I configured an account to place attachments in a separated directory and the bind attachments only while sending mail is not enabled. I then created a new message and attached a file to it. Only one copy of the attachment is saved though at times the file name will change to file1.xxx and back to file.xxx between auto-saves. Still only one copy of the attachment remains when I save the message to the outbox. Upon sending the message to the trash, the attachment remains in the attachment directory. Upon deleting the message from the trash, the attachment is deleted from the attachment folder. Do you have delete attachments when message is deleted from Trash turned off? If it's on, I get your results too. I've just tried again, and this time I didn't get new copy of attachment on auto-save, but every time I put the message in outbox. Interesting. I tried this with v1.62r Me too. DK What is Bind attachments only when sending out mail? How does DK that affect the above? You can use this option if you wish the latest version of the file to be attached for delivery with the message. However, without this option, the file is immediately bound to the message and you can alter the original without the altered copy being sent. Aha. Thanks for explanation. Domchi -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt Comment: KeyID: 0x33FAB7E4 Comment: Fingerprint: FD16 4946 03AF 4E93 5B0F EE8B B81E AA54 33FA B7E4 iQA/AwUBPt1hx7geqlQz+rfkEQJbvgCeLQ0CvuY9IjfWGLsMDXdOy4QzC6EAniQc 9nhvlfz/t9nGma+hYSfkFm/v =0Mmz -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Domagoj Klepac [DK] wrote: DK Hm. Just tried it, and no, it seems that attachment is stored with DK original message. If I delete all the attachments from attachment DK directory, messages still keep the attachments - both the ones I DK received and the ones I sent. Are you using filters to extract the attachments, or are you using the account properties/option to 'store attachments in a separate directory'. If you use filters to extract attachments, they will not be removed from the message, but instead, just copied. DK Do you have delete attachments when message is deleted from Trash DK turned off? Yes. - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBPt3E3f1E1LttcDiXEQI8iQCg2v+FECaKvm83Xwg23gPh0NahjFwAoNES PoANjNuz8Q6yfBpbg8c8pz3e =Xz86 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments Separately or in Message Base?
Hello Mark Wieder, On or about Sunday, March 02, 2003 at 19:51:27GMT -0800 (which was 10:51 PM in the tropics where I live) Mark Wieder posted: MW One caveat that I should point out: if you have an account that is MW keeping attachments inline and you then switch it to storing them MW externally, it only takes effect from that point on. In other MW words, any previously received messages with attachments still MW have them inline. This hasn't caused any problems as far as I can MW tell, but it's annoying not to be able to move the existing ones MW out of the database. All you have to do is RE-Filter the folder with the attachments! I use an 'overflow' temporary folder to hold all the messages in, so that all of them are 'detached' to the separate folder. The original filter has already been modified to reflect the new destination folder. After re-filtering, I then rename the folder back to the original name (a two step process) by deleting the original folder which is now EMPTY, then renaming the temp folder back to the original name. It has worked every time for me. Never lost ONE attachment. -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike 5 out of 4 people don't understand fractions /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail \ / If it aint a webpage it shouldn't be HTML. XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail! / \ Ask Spikey, he hates everything (HTML). -- Using TheBat! v1.62i hamstrung by Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1' -- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments Separately or in Message Base?
Hello Doug, On Sat, 1 Mar 2003 18:21:45 -0800 GMT (02/03/03, 09:21 +0700 GMT), Doug Gannon wrote: I guess my real concern was that The Bat might slow down when having to access a large message base. I imagined clicking on a folder on the left of the window only to have to wait for several seconds for The Bat to read the contents in order to display the list of messages on the right. But then, maybe I'm not understanding how things work in The Bat. Do you think that a message base that has gotten large from attachments, etc. would slow down The Bat? I keep attachments in the message base. My biggest folder has a message base that is currently around 59 MB big (is that big?). There is no noticeable slow-down when I open the folder. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I intend to live forever - so far, so good. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments Separately or in Message Base?
Doug- And one more comment, since this hasn't been covered yet: If you store your attachments in a separate folder, as I do, then what gets stored with the message is a pointer to the attachment in the external folder. If you move the message to another account or folder the pointer doesn't change, so there's no problem there. I find that keeping my attachments separate does indeed make things faster, maybe because I'm accessing my email storage over a network rather than on my own machine. It's also better for my peace of mind - I've had a couple of corrupted message databases that I can directly link to embedded binary attachments. -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/4 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments Separately or in Message Base?
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DG I'm having trouble deciding whether to store attachments in a
DG separate directory, or in the message base. I understand that if
DG they are stored in a separate directory, that they will not be moved
DG along with the message if it is ever moved to another account. But
DG at the same time, I was told by a friend that if I get more than a
DG few attachments, that I should definitely have attachments stored
DG in a separate directory.
I've been storing attachments within message bodies for a long time
and I do get my fair share of attachments though I don't receive
large ones. I've been having no problems whatsoever doing this.
It offers you the advantage of being able to always have messages
associated with their attachments, no matter if you export the
messages, move them to another account etc. Whenever I wish to store
attachments elsewhere, I do so manually.
The only thing you need to be careful about is that if you receive
very large attachments, then your message bases can become very
large and TB! needs a lot of free space in which to manipulate these
message bases especially when compressing/purging them etc., about
twice the message base amount of free space I'm made to understand.
In such a case it may be wise to split the message bases into
archives.
Storing attachments within message bases or in a separate directory
both have their advantages. However, I doubt that safety is one of
them as long as you keep in mind your free space and your message
base size.
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Re: Attachments Separately or in Message Base?
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Doug Gannon [DG] wrote:
DG First off, thanks for replying to my message. I've been watching
DG this mailing list for a while, and it looks like one of the
DG friendlier lists out there.
This is nice to read. :)
DG Thanks for pointing out to me about the free space needed for
DG compressing, etc. I do receive some larger attachments (100-300k).
That's not so large. I meant in the order of megabytes. There are
those who pretty regularly receive attachments exceeding 5MB each.
With a lot of those a message base can become staggeringly large
though it contains not that many messages.
DG I have plenty of space on my hard drive so this shouldn't be a
DG problem.
With attachments like those you mentioned, I agree.
DG I guess my real concern was that The Bat might slow down when having
DG to access a large message base.
Not really. It may take a few seconds to initially load a large base
after a TB! startup. After that, it's fast. By large base, I mean a
folder with in excess of 15,000 messages.
DG I imagined clicking on a folder on the left of the window only to
DG have to wait for several seconds for The Bat to read the contents in
DG order to display the list of messages on the right.
This delay will directly depend on your hard disk speed, your
processor speed and RAM. If those are good then you can have large
bases without problems. However, if you're short on power, you may
see significant slowing in loading bases with over 10,000 messages.
I have a folder with 17,000 messages and it took 4 seconds to load.
It's an archived folder anyway. Once loaded, browsing the folder is
nice and fast.
DG Do you think that a message base that has gotten large from
DG attachments, etc. would slow down The Bat? I'd be interested in
DG anyone's thoughts on this.
Not TB! perse. Just the loading of that particular folder, as well
as compressing etc. It also depends on how many of those large
attachments there are and how large the message base is.
I suggest trying it and seeing how your system deals with it.
DG Thanks again Allie for your response.
You're welcome. :)
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Re: Attachments aren't removed from 'attach' folder
Hello Salvador, On Thu, 17 Oct 2002 at 10:03:10[GMT +0300](which was 08:03 where I live) you wrote: SE Dear Bat users, From my account properties panel I chose to keep the file attachments of SE my incoming and outgoing emails in a separate folder SE (\MAIL\Account\Attach). What I've found out later is that when I delete an SE email (from my Inbox, Send Mail or any other folder), its associated SE attachment stored in 'Attach' folder still remains there instead of being SE removed automatically together with the message. Does Account/properties/Files and folders/Delete attached files when message is deleted from Trash folder help, not that I've tried it myself but may well do. -- Best regards, Richard Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments aren't removed from 'attach' folder
Hi, Salvador Esque wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : No, it doesn't help. Attachments still remain there... AFAIK this bug is known and will be addressed in the next release (whenever that may be). Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments
Hey Adam, My MUA believes you used (X-Mailer not set) to write the following on Tuesday, May 14, 2002 at 12:07:53 PM. A How do you select many attachments to save? If you right click an attachment, you can choose to save all, then I think there is an option of saving some or all. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] MUA = TB! v1.60h (www.RitLabs.com/The_Bat) Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) A day without sunshine is like a day in Seattle. -- Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: attachments
No idea what the second option does. The first option deletes attachments that have come in with incoming messages. You can save the attachments separately (right-click and save as) if you want to retain them after deleting the associated messages. Files that are already on your hard drive independently of TB! will remain there; sending one as an attachment and then deleting your 'sent mail' copy will not delete the separate, pre-existing document. JN Roman Katzer wrote on Sunday, March 10, 2002: There are two options in the files and directories portion of the account properties: Delete attached files when a message is deleted from Trash folder and Bind attachments only while sending out mail Will the first one, when checked, also delete files from my directories when I delete a message I sent from the trash folder? Say I send a message containing a word doc to a friend and later delete that message from trash. Will TB delete the original file or only the one it created in it's attachment folder? BTW why does it copy attached files to its own folder? This is pretty weird behavior. What does that second option do? Roman -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: attachments
Hello Joseph N., On Sunday, March 10 2002 at 09:08 AM PDT, you wrote: No idea what the second option does. I could be wrong but I believe it means that if an attachment you want to send out is not in your default Attachment Folder *and* you have that option checked, TB will then send a copy of the attachment from where it resides. If the option is *not* checked, then TB will move a copy of that attachment to the default Attachment Folder... and send from there, leaving you with two copies of the same attachment on your HDD: It's original Folder and now the default Attachment Folder. -- Nick Andriash Courtenay, B.C. Canada -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Attachments' reminder
Hello Sergey, On Sunday, February 10, 2002 at 11:26:04 PM you wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): SK So, if it is not yet possible in TB!, it is not possible in TB!. SK What about external remedy? What about scheduled task in windows? Shouldn't be a big problem ... E.g.: Oneliner thebat.exe /MAIL;TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED];SUBJECT=Hello World;TEXT=Nonsense;ATTACH=c:\test.txt;[QUEUE|SEND] /Oneliner -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/39 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) In the dark of the day, in the black of the sun, he's coming for you! -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Attachments' reminder
Hello Tim, On Tuesday, February 12, 2002 at 10:34:16 AM you wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): PP Oneliner PP thebat.exe /MAIL;TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED];SUBJECT=Hello PP World;TEXT=Nonsense;ATTACH=c:\test.txt;[QUEUE|SEND] PP /Oneliner T I'm sorry. I can't understand how this works. Is test.txt doing the T actual testing of size? If so, what goes in test.txt? If you'd like to have a look in help for keyword 'Command line parameter' you'll get a description of what the different parameters mean and effect. 'text.txt' was a file name I choose for _this example_ as the file to be attached to the mail. Call it 'crap.txt', 'trash.bin', 'win.com' or what so ever ... The help file will explain to you the parameter 'ATTACH' takes one argument, the name of the file to be attached to the message generated with the above command line. The [QUEUE|SEND] part is quite more difficulty to understand if you're a non-programmer, this means: either 'QUEUE' or 'SEND'. The difference between them is explained in help file too. -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/39 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Try to be the best of what you are, even if what you are is no good. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Attachments' reminder
Hello Sergey, On Tuesday, February 12, 2002 at 10:23:51 AM I wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): [something really stupid] ... because I've missed the thread. I'm sorry, I didn't re-read the original mail and thought I'm in a really different topic, so forget my explanations, they wont lead to any success with your problem/question. -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/39 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) If money can't buy happiness, I guess you'll just have to rent it. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Attachments' reminder
On 09 February 2002 at 19:53 Sergey wrote: Hello TBUDL, Sometimes I need to send files. And sometimes they are very big (about 1 meg). And sometimes I forget to zip them before sending. The question is: is it possible in TB! to make a reminder (with macros or regular expressions) so that when I'm trying to send a message with attachment that exceeds, for example 200 kb, it pops up and asks something like wouldn't be better to zip your attachment before sending? You could do it with an Outgoing Mail filter - in the Advanced tab of that there's an option 'Message is larger than ... K Bytes'. Setting ... to 200 would trigger the rest of the filter in the situation described. I think the pop-up box is beyond TB!*, but you could certainly park the message in the Outbox (see 'Park the message' in the Actions tab) and play a suitably annoying sound (same tab at bottom). Alastair * that inspires a feature request; it would be very easy to add a filter option to pop up a box with text defined in the filter. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Attachments' reminder
Hello Alastair, On Sunday, February 10, 2002 at 10:53:25 AM you wrote (at least in part): AS You could do it with an Outgoing Mail filter Nope ... he can't. Outgoing Mail filters are triggered _after_ sending is done, so the only effect would be he has sent the 1MB message plus it is addtionally parked in oubox, a kind of reminder: 'You sent again a big mail without zipping attachment!' :-) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/39 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) Let go of my ears lady, I know what I'm doing. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Attachments on my Deaktop
Hello again, At least I found out that TB is not directly responsible for copying the attachments. They are copied to my Desktop every time I start Maximizer, a contact manager I use since years ago which is supposed to be MAPI compliant. Just a couple of days ago I installed TB as the simple MAPI request handler from the Options/Preferences/Application tab, and this seems to be what started this problem. I'll keep looking. BTW, is there any way to un-install TB as the MAPI request handler? Thanks, Miguel Hello all, Since yesterday I'm observing a peculiar behaviour of TB. I have some 11 messages in my main account's Inbox pending further reading and/or reply. Two of them include attachments, an HTLM page (not a link) and a Word document. As I say, yesterday I saw that these attachments had been copied to my Desktop. Not a link or a shortcut, they have been copied to my C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator\Desktop directory. But what is more surprising is that I delete them but, sooner or later, they appear again on my Desktop. ??!!?? I haven't been able to trace when this happens (I haven't tried very hard either). What I can say is that it happens without opening, or even just selecting, either of the messages. And this seems to happen only while messages with attachments are in Inbox. Does anybody have any clue? TIA. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.53d -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Attachments
Hallo Joseph, Op vrijdag 5 oktober 2001, 20:19:12, schreef jij: JN Does anyone have opinions to share on whether attachments should be JN kept a part of the message or stored in a separate directory? I've Doesn't really matter. Do what makes you feel comfortable. I keep them in the messages, that way I get rid of them in three months, unless it's something special. Usually important are stored on a place that makes sense when I want to retrieve them and that's not in my messagebase. Files that are thought to be unsafe are killed by my mailserver's virusscanner. So that's of no importance to me. -- Groetjes, Roelof -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Attachments
Marck, DG I've seen this message.att problem many times myself, but have DG yet to find an answer. I would certainly be curious if anybody DG has an explanation for this... There is an ancient utility called Fentun which can decode these. See http://www.fentun.com/. I found this interesting thread in the Outlook Express user group, reflecting the problem and suggesting a solution at their end. Could inform friends who are using the same. I am enclosing the same after my signature after snipping irrelevant portions. Best regards, Raj Composed on Friday, September 07, 2001 at 10:48 AM using The Bat Ver 1.53d Attachments : none I have an interesting one here again... I have one user (only 1) that for some reason cannot send attachments to some people (she can send them fine, but the person on the receiving end doesn't receive them), but others in the office with the same software on their computers can. Doesn't matter what the attachment is... she always has to send it to me so I can send it to this guy. He gets it fine when I send it, but not when she sends it. Office is using Win95, O97, and Exch5.5. Any suggestions? -Original Message- John Try changing the Rich Text Format setting. Click on the e-mail name in eg contacts and change his/your setting and see if it changes anything with the attachments. TIA Steven Teiger -Original Message- John Try changing the Rich Text Format setting. Click on the e-mail name in eg contacts and change his/your setting and see if it changes anything with the attachments. TIA Steven Teiger -Original Message- Steven, Not sure I'm following ya here... are you saying to change the RTF settings for that specific contact or the settings for her Outlook from RTF to something else? I dont' see any options to change the settings on a per contact basis... and my Outlook is setup to send RTF and I have no problems sending him the attachments. John Hough - Systems Director -Original Message- Well, My experience is that Steven is correct: changing your default mail format can solve the problem, but don't ask me why. I have OL2000 on WinMe (no exchange) and _ONE_ of my suppliers only receives my attachments when I use either rtf or html while using Word as my editor. Any other setting results in problems. BTW I can tell in advance whether she will receive the attachment or not: If the attachment is listed in the header, i.e. under subject, she'll receive it, when I see the attachment at the bottom of my screen in its own frame, she won't. Although this does not occur with all contacts (but does intermittently with others) I've decided to simply change my settings. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: Attachments
Hi Raj, On Fri, 7 Sep 2001 10:52:49 +0530GMT (07/09/2001, 13:22 +0800GMT), Raj wrote: R Although this does not occur with all contacts (but does intermittently with R others) I've decided to simply change my settings. He could have decided to simply change his email client ... Sorry for stupid remark: could not resist! -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53o under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
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Hello Marck, On Thursday, August 30, 2001 at 7:25:19 PM you wrote (at least in part): MDP ... except that Raj has already said that the .att attachments are MDP /real/ files which are seen perfectly by OE and MSE clients ... I believe that lays in the nature of both being MS products and producing this files themself :-) IIRC this both are also the only two that recognize 'application/ms-tnef' native which is in most cases the mime type of '.att' files (and was therefore the reason for developing fentun :-) ) MDP hence my fentun suggestion. I've downloaded it (just for fun, not I really care 'bout this files *g*) and it simply does not work for me :-( As I read it expects a path to a TNEF-encoded file but i can't even get an error message :-( so I can't recommend it as I was not able to test, but if Marck says That's it!!! I believe everybody with this problem should give it a try for him/herself :-) Ciao Pit -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/7 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Climate is what you expect. Weather is what you get. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Attachments
Hello Raj, Thursday, May 24, 2001, 3:20:34 AM, you wrote: R 2. Attachments from a particular person who uses Outlook (I R pity him) comes to as message.att and I am unable to open the R same. Attachments from his colleagues also using outlook are R recvd fine. Any ideas ?? I've seen this message.att problem many times myself, but have yet to find an answer. I would certainly be curious if anybody has an explanation for this... -- Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.53d on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Attachments
Hello Dave, On Thursday, August 30, 2001 at 5:28:11 PM you wrote (at least in part): DG I've seen this message.att problem many times myself, but have DG yet to find an answer. I would certainly be curious if anybody DG has an explanation for this... Try saving this '.att' files and have a look into them with a plain text viewer: most the time it's Trash :-) Some internal things Outlook send with the mail, like .. lets say this person has to use Outlook (like me too :-( ) for job management ... I get the request to do a job via Outlook. for Outlook being able to handle it properly with all it's attributes (Final Date, Level of Emergency, Further Information in this Job, what person(s) is responsible, etc.) Outlook needs to send more than a plain text mail, therefore it attaches all 'handled only by Outlook' information into the '.att' ... Don't ask me for the _exact_ schema when /under what circumstances Outlook sends this information in a 'normal' e-mail too but most the time is does not send out this stuff if it is set to 'send plain text mail' and not 'RichText' or 'HTML' ... IIRC one can also set in address book 'per person' to send Plain Text (or was that only 'Netscape Mail'???) ... I can't test at the moment as my Outlook is only configured for Exchange-Mail what is purely internal and every external mail (100% e-mail; not Exchange-Stuff; short: not proprietary information exchange messages *G*) is handled by TB! for me ... HTH Pit -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/7 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Few things work up an appetite like good, wholesome, sadomasochistic sex. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Attachments
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Peter, On Thu, 30 Aug 2001 at 17:48:40 [GMT +0200], you wrote: PP Try saving this '.att' files and have a look into them with a PP plain text viewer: most the time it's Trash :-) PP HTH Pit Most of the .att attachments I get are server responses on a bounce. I just associated .att files with Textpad to view them in, because it shows in detail why the bounce occurred. Cheers, Leif Gregory - -- List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) PCWize Editor / ICQ 216395 / PGP Key ID 0x7CD4926F Web Site http://www.PCWize.com TB FAQ http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/FAQ.html Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/6 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 256MB. Tagline of the day: A bit is the increment by which programmers slowly go mad. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBO45qZ48+1rl81JJvEQLevwCgn+uBBvlwAAlDsR3Bu2M792s6Th8An1kr +LekUSEOeIOey0iM7doIATUb =qwOk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Attachments
Hello Leif, On Thursday, August 30, 2001 at 6:31:29 PM you wrote (at least in part): LG Most of the .att attachments I get are server responses on a bounce. I LG just associated .att files with Textpad to view them in, because it LG shows in detail why the bounce occurred. OK ... another possibility ... Knowing that it seems I'm a lucky one, bounces returned to me contain the reason for bouncing _inline_ within the message :-) Maybe it's only because most the time I get bounces they're returned by our qmail-server ?!? ... Doesn't matter, I've not associated them, I choose manually 'GViM' as application in the seldom case I really want to have a look at one :-))) Thx for your addition, maybe it helps Raj to understand why it's not important to _really_ care about '.att' files (only in some cases and mainly nearly never if X-Mailer equals 'Microsoft Outlook.*' :-))) ) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/7 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Portions of the preceding were recorded. As for the rest of it, I'm very much afraid it was all in your mind. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Attachments
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Peter, On 30 August 2001 at 18:46:17 +0200 (which was 17:46 where I live) Peter Palmreuther wrote to Leif Gregory on TBUDL and made these points: PP Thx for your addition, maybe it helps Raj to understand why it's PP not important to _really_ care about '.att' files ... ... except that Raj has already said that the .att attachments are /real/ files which are seen perfectly by OE and MSE clients ... hence my fentun suggestion. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user ~~~ \ BrainStorm - free thinking - www: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / TB! v1.54 Beta/7-14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: GPG Sealed for freshness iD8DBQE7jncBOeQkq5KdzaARAkaYAJ9wN5lrz3ytzbrcxibgYlHOiE870ACgn7w3 24C2uPLH8k8NYKh7iHA0QsU= =WhVU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Attachments
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, On 30 August 2001 at 18:25:19 +0100 (which was 18:25 where I live) Marck D Pearlstone wrote to Peter Palmreuther on TBUDL and made these points: MDP ... except that Raj has already said that the .att attachments ^^^ Make that Dave (sorry Raj). - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user ~~~ \ BrainStorm - free thinking - www: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / TB! v1.54 Beta/7-14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: GPG Sealed for freshness iD4DBQE7jnxDOeQkq5KdzaARAhNHAJYs3yhk+8z54qVynS1KnPRmB2BSAJ9GpMzw r2abP1gP2G0UqhkmFD2YfA== =0Ux8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Attachments
Thursday, August 30, 2001, 11:33:52 AM, Vincent wrote: VDE Hi Co-Batties, VDE I defined an existing folder for saving attachments to ... VDE but TB doesn't save the attachments there?! VDE Anyone with the same problem - or even better: a solution? VDE Cheers, VDE Vince I created a *new* folder specifically for TB! attachments and created a shortcut to it on my quick launch bar for ease of access. I simply created the new folder within My Documents will no problems. All attachments end up there. Under Account Properties / Files and Directories - check Store attachments seperate from messages in special directory then browse to the directory where your attachments folder is. -- Carren For PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGPkey -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: %Attachments
Hi Raj, Historians believe that Tuesday, August 14, 2001 at 08:10 GMT +0530 was when, Raj [R] typed the following: R A little disappointed though that I need to attach files before R editing, as it my habit to attach files after writing the mail. R (logical) R Disappointed because I had begun to expect TB to solve all e-mail R (and personal) problems :) Well there is one work-around: create a quick template with only the macro you want. Then, wherever you want the list, just type the QT name, followed by ctrlspace. Make the QT name short (ie attach), and it becomes quite convenient. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/4 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A I was the next door kid's imaginary friend. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %Attachments
Hello Raj, On Sunday, August 12, 2001 at 4:41:56 AM you wrote (at least in part): R Wanted to check on the syntax for using %Attachments macro. The macro seems to work fine R when I compose a new message or forward message. However it does not seem to do so when I R reply to a message and attach files ?? R Also within the new message only the first file attached is displayed. Subsequent files R which are attached are not shown. What's the syntax you're using the macro??? Are you trying to attache several files with one macro call? R Anybody else encountered this problem ??? No .. did some testing right now and everything worked like it should. -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/6 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %Attachments
Hi Raj, On Sun, 12 Aug 2001, at 08:11:56 +0530 you wrote: R Is there a way to list all the attachments in the message body using R this macro. The problem is that the macro is evaluated only when you place the cursor in the message body. You will have to move the cursor to the subject field and back to the message body after you have all your attachments complete to update the list. -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.54 Beta/6 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 |Lars Geiger | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=GetPublicKey | -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %Attachments
Hello Raj, On Monday, August 13, 2001 at 3:12:46 PM you wrote (at least in part): R I just used %Attachments. And yes I tried attaching more than one file. R When hit reply to a mail and attach, NO files are shown. However in the case of New R Forwarded messages the first file attached is shown. So it works over here. I placed the macro '%ATTACHMENTS' in both templates, new and reply, created a new message, attached several files and it worked. Same with a reply mail. BUT: as Lars Geiger wrote: you _HAVE TO_ change the focus _after_ adding the files _away from message body_ and _to message body_ (means: focus on e.g Subject and than back to message text, like Lars wrote) AND: the update of attached list does _ONLY_ work if the mail text is _UNCHANGED_, means: if you attach a file before you start writing, it is listed. If you write the mail and decide to add a second file it _ain't_ listed where the macro '%ATTACHMENTS' is placed! If you edit the message text TB! does not remember anymore where what _macro_ was placed, instead the evaluated macros (and therefor their content / text) are present. This is the same with every other macro that influences the text or content of your mail like '%From' settings, '%From*' texts (e.g. for footer), '%Subject' or even '%Language' ... they're all 'invisible', not insertable runtime and only evaluated before editing the mail has begun. HTH Pit -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/6 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Anybody can win, unless there happens to be a second entry. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %Attachments
Hi Peter, On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, at 16:00:15 +0200 you wrote: PP AND: the update of attached list does _ONLY_ work if the mail text PP is _UNCHANGED_, means: if you attach a file before you start PP writing, it is listed. If you write the mail and decide to add a PP second file it _ain't_ listed where the macro '%ATTACHMENTS' is PP placed! Not exactly. Have a look at what happens, when you start a new mail: At first, the cursor is in the To: field. If you now *attach* a file, the cursor will be placed in the message body when you close the file selection dialog. That's the reason why the macro shows the first attachment correctly. For any subsequent attachment made now, the cursor stays right where it is, in the message body. And that is why the macro isn't evaluated again. If you focus the To: field before attaching the second file (like it was in the beginning) TB! will correctly list *both* attachments. PP If you edit the message text TB! does not remember anymore where PP what _macro_ was placed, instead the evaluated macros (and therefor PP their content / text) are present. I don't think that all macros are just replaced with the string they create. If that was the case, the re-evaluation via shifting the focus wouldn't work. PP This is the same with every other macro that influences the text or PP content of your mail like '%From' settings, '%From*' texts (e.g. for PP footer), '%Subject' or even '%Language' ... they're all 'invisible', PP not insertable runtime and only evaluated before editing the mail PP has begun. Those macros need only be evaluated once (usually). But it's different with %ATTACHMENTS. Perhaps we should make a suggestion that all macros are re-evaluated after a change in the attachments. That would solve those problems. -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.54 Beta/6 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 |Lars Geiger | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=GetPublicKey | -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %Attachments
Hello Lars, On Monday, August 13, 2001 at 6:00:01 PM you wrote (at least in part): LG or any subsequent attachment made now, the cursor LG stays right where it is, in the message body. And that is why the macro LG isn't evaluated again. If you focus the To: field before attaching the LG second file (like it was in the beginning) TB! will correctly list LG *both* attachments. you can also add _all_ files you want (may it be 2 or 10) and than change the focus to header fields and back and it is evaluated correctly too ... if: see below ... LG I don't think that all macros are just replaced with the string they LG create. If that was the case, the re-evaluation via shifting the focus LG wouldn't work. They are ... as I wrote: AFTER EDITING the mail, means: mail-body, message text, however you want to call the (normaly white backgrounded) part of editor window. As long as you did not type a single character in the mail body they're all able to be re-evaluated, after typing even the tiniest character in message body, none are ... -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/6 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) I do not know whether I was then a man dreaming I was a butterfly, or whether I am now a butterfly dreaming I am a man. . -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %Attachments
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Lars, On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 18:00:01 +0200, you thoughtfully wrote the following: ... LG Not exactly. Have a look at what happens, when you start a new mail: LG At first, the cursor is in the To: field. If you now *attach* a LG file, the cursor will be placed in the message body when you close LG the file selection dialog. That's the reason why the macro shows the LG first attachment correctly. For any subsequent attachment made now, LG the cursor stays right where it is, in the message body. And that is LG why the macro isn't evaluated again. If you focus the To: field LG before attaching the second file (like it was in the beginning) TB! LG will correctly list *both* attachments. This is exactly right. The trick is to create all the attachments with the cursor out of the message body, *before* doing any editing of the message body whatsoever. This is also the way address book templates are applied. I create a new message, edit the To: field and upon placing the cursor in the message body, the address book template for the recipient is applied. If I had *manually* edited the message body in any way, the template wouldn't have been applied. I say *manually* edit because you can change the message body template output by changing the recipient for which another template is associated. Upon moving the cursor to the message body, again, the template is automagically changed from that of the old recipient template to reflect the address book template of the new recipient. :-). - -- ©Allie C Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) PGP public key: http://pgpkey.ac-martin.com __ MUA: The Bat! 1.54 Beta/6 [OS: Windows 2000 Service Pack 2] _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Sealed for security. iEYEARECAAYFAjt4Q+EACgkQV8nrYCsHF+JAYACfdYo8g+HKNcoZ1cz4BXfvz/M8 wIkAoKAdUYxEVuALLRg3rdJ3SsP4XAv2 =GFiJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Attachments Deleted When Message Deleted?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On February 5, 2001, at 7:13:32 PM, Tim Musson Wrote: TM I have seen that from day 1 with TB. :-( However, I leave the /attach TM dir as the default (TBdir\MAIL\YourAccount\Attach) not c:\temp. I TM also have the above checked. Just so I understand correctly, are you saying that your received attachments are *not* being deleted when you delete the messages they arrived attached to? I was beginning to think my problem was that I had a non-default attachment directory, but just haven't got around to experimenting using the default directory. This is worrisome, because I think it imperative you have full control over your attachments, and if TB! is not going to delete as per the Options, then I start to worry about retaining some of the more questionable attachments sent to me. :o( Nick N.J. Andriash [ TB! v1.49c | PGP 7.0.3 | Win 98 SE ] Vancouver, B.C. Canada | PGP Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0.3 Comment: Join PGP-Basics: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBOn76x8UChHR7o/3OEQKemQCeOLEkHnGonckZeb2MtoOT3ivWaj8AnA6S ZQetCqBTYFu2AO0Iny0cfpcb =iUGx -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Attachments Deleted When Message Deleted?
Subject: Attachments Deleted When Message Deleted? From: Nick Andriash Dated: Mon, 5 Feb 2001, 11:11:07 (1:11:07 PM Local) Hi Nick, N Just so I understand correctly, are you saying that your received N attachments are *not* being deleted when you delete the messages they N arrived attached to? At the risk of dog piling a "me too!" statement I also have never been able to get TB! to auto delete attachments. I have to go in every now and then and clean out the directory. Yes, I've played with settings, directories, everything I could think of. Yet the attachments persist. -- (,_,_,_,) Nick /|\`-._( )_.-'/|\ Danger / | \`'-/ \-'`/ | \ / |_.'-.\ /.-'._| \ [MUA: TB! 1.49] /_.-' " `-._\ [OS: Win98 4.10 1998] "We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Attachments Deleted When Message Deleted?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On February 5, 2001, at 11:19:24 AM, Nick Danger Wrote: ND At the risk of dog piling a "me too!" statement I also have never been able to ND get TB! to auto delete attachments. I have to go in every now and then and ND clean out the directory. Yes, I've played with settings, directories, ND everything I could think of. Yet the attachments persist. I've sent a letter off to RITLabs, so depending on the answer, I think I will submit a Bug Report on it then. Thanks Nick... Nick N.J. Andriash [ TB! v1.49c | PGP 7.0.3 | Win 98 SE ] Vancouver, B.C. Canada | PGP Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0.3 Comment: Join PGP-Basics: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBOn7+UcUChHR7o/3OEQL+vwCgkXhaKr9+ngYsNVbobIi0ijrXNmwAoMne zCf12lMXNVWOi7nAwFwKfT2b =ntA/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Attachments Deleted When Message Deleted?
On February 5, 2001, at 11:23:36 AM, Tim Musson Wrote: TM That is the case. I have "Delete attached files when msg is deleted TM from trash folder" selected, but my attachments don't seem to ever be TM deleted. It might be an issue of also having all of the following TM checked on the Trash folder properties: TM Maximum number of stored messages is 50 TM Keep messages in the base for (days): 3 TM Remove old messages TM Compress the folder You know, I've never looked at the properties of my Trash Folder, but your post prompted me to look into it, and noticed that I too had "Keep messages in base for" checked, although no number of days were indicated. I unchecked that option, and did a test. :o) The attachments are now deleted when closing TB!, so the option does in fact work. I feel stupid for not looking at the Folder properties, but with having no number of day selected, I just thought it would nullify the check box. In any case, I now have it working. Thanks for everyone's help on this... :o) Nick N.J. Andriash [ TB! v1.49c | PGP 7.0.3 | Win 98 SE ] Vancouver, B.C. Canada | PGP Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE _ -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Attachments Deleted When Message Deleted?
Subject: Attachments Deleted When Message Deleted? From: Nick Andriash Dated: Mon, 5 Feb 2001, 11:53:05 (1:53:05 PM Local) Hi Nick, N I unchecked that option, and did a test. :o) The attachments are now N deleted when closing TB!, so the option does in fact work. Consider yourself lucky. I never had that option checked in the first place. I've been batting for around two years and have never been able to have TB! auto delete attachments. Frustrating more than anything else. Hey, at least I never accidently lose anything, eh? -- (,_,_,_,) Nick /|\`-._( )_.-'/|\ Danger / | \`'-/ \-'`/ | \ / |_.'-.\ /.-'._| \ [MUA: TB! 1.49] /_.-' " `-._\ [OS: Win98 4.10 1998] "A witty saying proves nothing." - Voltaire -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Attachments in Moved messages
On February 4, 2001, at 5:30:56 AM, Tim Musson Wrote: TM Also, I have been unable to get TB to delete the files in the /Attach TM directory, even though I have "Delete attached files when a message is TM deleted from Trash folder" selected in Account Properties | Files TM directories. Any thoughts on this one? I have found the very same thing, and can only presume the feature is not working in 1.49c. I don't know if you can submit a Bug Report on it, because there is really no documentation on the feature, so it's difficult to guess the intent of the feature, and one can only presume it means to delete the attachment, regardless of where it is, when the message that had the attachment is put into the Trash, and the Trash is emptied. Nick N.J. Andriash [ TB! v1.49c | PGP 7.0.3 | Win 98 SE ] Vancouver, B.C. Canada | PGP Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE _ -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Attachments in Moved messages
On February 4, 2001, at 9:16:57 AM, Tony Owens Wrote: TO Just tested this twice on my system and it seems to work exactly TO as I'd expect (doesn't delete the attachment until the message is TO deleted from the Trash folder). Yes, I must admit that when I specifically delete the message from the Trash folder, the attachment is deleted as well. However, if you use the menu item: Folder/Purge All Folders... which in fact "empties" the Trash Folder, or in a similar fashion you choose the option to "Empty trash on exit" which is basically the same thing, and then exit TB!, the attachments are not deleted. Nick N.J. Andriash [ TB! v1.49c | PGP 7.0.3 | Win 98 SE ] Vancouver, B.C. Canada | PGP Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE _ -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
