Re: iOS9 and Fantastical

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Yes, you're right there.

How do I find where to report it?

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 2:21 AM
  Subject: Re: iOS9 and Fantastical




  I just tried it and you are correct.
  But, even without VoiceOver running, my wife couldn't enter anything. She 
said it was dimmed.
  I think we have a major bug in Fantastical with iOS 9. I also find that when 
I open Fantastical it takes me to a date either in April of this year, or 
October of last year.
  Very strange.
  Richard



  On Sep 20, 2015, at 2:24 PM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


Hi all,

If anyone has upgraded to iOS 9 and uses Fantastical, can you confirm 
whether it's working for you when you go to create a new event?  I can select 
new event and go to write it in, but then I can't read the screen at all so 
can't write it in the edit box.  However, if I add the event using another 
diary, I can read and edit that event in Fantastical.

I'd love to know of others' experiences with this and if anyone has an idea 
what's going on?

Carol P


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Re: Two small features in iOS 9 that I really I'm going to love

[Feliciano Godoy]

Exactly what I do. Or simply select the text then copy it to the clipboard. 
That new feature may be more convenient for others though.

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> On Sep 20, 2015, at 5:08 PM, Brent Harding  wrote:
> 
> In 8, when I have to copy garbage strings, I have VO speak it and then the 3 
> finger quad tap, but you often get extra junk with it as well that you don't 
> want in there because it literally copies what VO spoke.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 6:49 PM
> Subject: Two small features in iOS 9 that I really I'm going to love
> 
> 
> Have you ever had to copy out one of those long garbage letter number 
> passwords and paste it somewhere else? That alone is going to make the text 
> selection feature of iOS 9 a huge timesaver for me. Plus, when I have to 
> reenter my email address or password, as is so common, presto, copy text. 
> Paste done.
> The other one I'm going to love is that little back button up in the top left 
> of the status line. If you get emails with links, which you follow and read 
> the article, then want to go back to mail, how cool is it that you can just 
> tap that little button and not have to open the app switcher, find the mail 
> app, and return. It's a little thing, but I love it.
> Mary
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Re: A couple of questions re IPad Mini 4

[christopher hallsworth]

Not seeing any iPad specific bugs, but in any case, split screens are for 
certain apps only like the stock Settings and Mail apps.
> On 21 Sep 2015, at 05:45, M.Nelson  wrote:
> 
> when the excitement settles down, I intend to get a Mini4. I won’t be using 
> it for phone calls, don’t use a BT keyboard and seldom use it for email, so 
> are there any other “gotchas” that I should be aware of? Also, is the screen 
> always split or just with certain apps?
> Thanks,
> Marie   
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Re: Selecting text in a kindle book

[christopher hallsworth]

I thought text selection would work for any text fields, even read only ones, 
regardless of the app in use?
> On 21 Sep 2015, at 05:05, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I was not surprised to see that I could not select text with the new text 
> selection feature in iOS 9 when reading a Kindle book. Kendall hasn't been 
> updated for iOS 9. I hope, when it is updated, they will recognize the ease 
> of this feature. But I'm not going to hold my breath. This is, after all, 
> Amazon we are talking about.
> I don't remember the somewhat convoluted method you're supposed to use when 
> selecting text in a Kindle book. I double tap for the menu, and nothing 
> jumped out at me. Does anybody remember how to do that?
> Mary
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Re: iOS9 and Fantastical

[Jesper Holten]

Hi.
Yeah it seems to be broken after Ios 9 upgrade!
Hope it gets fixed rather sooner than later!
Cheers, Jesper.

On 9/21/15, 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone  wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I've noticed this too, and, as has already been said, it appears  not just
> to be a VoiceOver bug either as my sighted friend tried it without VO and it
> wouldn't let her do anything. She looked to see where we  could report it,
> but it wasn't obvious. So if anyone knows where we go to report this one
> please let us know.
>
> Eleanor
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On 21 Sep 2015, at 07:11, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Yes, you're right there.
>>
>> How do I find where to report it?
>>
>> Carol P
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Richard Turner
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 2:21 AM
>> Subject: Re: iOS9 and Fantastical
>>
>>
>> I just tried it and you are correct.
>> But, even without VoiceOver running, my wife couldn't enter anything. She
>> said it was dimmed.
>> I think we have a major bug in Fantastical with iOS 9. I also find that
>> when I open Fantastical it takes me to a date either in April of this
>> year, or October of last year.
>> Very strange.
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 2:24 PM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> If anyone has upgraded to iOS 9 and uses Fantastical, can you confirm
>>> whether it's working for you when you go to create a new event?  I can
>>> select new event and go to write it in, but then I can't read the screen
>>> at all so can't write it in the edit box.  However, if I add the event
>>> using another diary, I can read and edit that event in Fantastical.
>>>
>>> I'd love to know of others' experiences with this and if anyone has an
>>> idea what's going on?
>>>
>>> Carol P
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Re: How to send feedback to Apple regarding iOS 9?

[christopher hallsworth]

Hi
To send accessibility related feedback send it to
accessibil...@apple.com
for more general feedback submit the form at
www.apple.com/feedback

> On 21 Sep 2015, at 05:22, dacia.l...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> How does one go about sending feedback to Apple regarding iOS 9? Also, has 
> anyone figured out how to navigate the picker with VoiceOver? By that, I 
> mean, when you were giving a pop a button, it says there is a picker, but 
> when I go to the bottom of the screen on the left like I used to, when I 
> swipe up, just says forward, and doesn't read my options. I still see the 
> option for done, but if I can't pick something, what's the point? Thank you 
> overall, I am satisfied with the newest iOS.
> Dacia
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: VoiceOver No Longer Announcing Number of Messages in the Native iOS 9 Mail App

[christopher hallsworth]

You can get the beta here
http://beta.apple.com
you must sign in and enrol your device(s) before you can install the beta. Note 
this is a public, not a developer, beta which the latter requires a paid 
developer account. The public beta program however is free to anyone with an 
Apple ID.
> On 21 Sep 2015, at 04:10, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> When will the beta come out? Also... I hope the call bug and the bug where vo 
> crashes after sending email is fixed!!! Sorry beta police!!! Call it 
> updater's remorse!!! lol 
> 
> Jenifer Barr
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 8:53 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I can't say because the beta police may come after me.
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Donna  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What did you do to fix the bug I have restored all settings several 
>>> times & did a hard reboot also. Still have the problem! Not that it's a 
>>> deal breaker for me. 
>>> 
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On Sep 20, 2015, at 7:45 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
 
 Yes me too!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of John Diakogeorgiou
 Sent: 20 September 2015 19:02
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: A CALL TO ACTION: VoiceOver No Longer Announcing Number of 
 Messages in the Native iOS 9 Mail App
 
 It's fixed for me..
 
 John Diakogeorgiou
 
> On Sep 20, 2015, at 12:32 PM, Donna  wrote:
> 
> No it hasn't been fixed in 9.1! Unless one keeps resetting network 
> settings or resetting all settings. 
> 
> Donna
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 8:11 AM, John Diakogeorgiou  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Here go the apple police again!!! If some one tells you that Apple has 
>> fixed a bug then by not bugging themb we are letting them better utilize 
>> their time. They don't have to waste time looking at problems which they 
>> have already resolved. I'll be muting this now.
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 1:01 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I hope you realize that you just violated NDA by saying that.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>>> 
 On Sep 19, 2015, at 11:36 AM, Wil James  wrote:
 
 There is good news on the horizon. That issue is fixed and I OS 9.1.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Sep 19, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I think it's great if people write in about this. FYI, I reported it 
> during the beta cycle and was told it was a duplicate bug report, so 
> they do know about it, but having more people say it's important to 
> get it fixed should help.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi. I'll definitely do that, as that's an issue that's really 
>> annoying me at the moment. We should write to 
>> 
>> accessibil...@apple.com
>> 
>> Right?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 3:48 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> You may have noticed that in the currently released version of the 
>>> native
>>> iOS 9 Mail app, VoiceOver no longer announces the actual number of 
>>> messages
>>> in a collapsed message thread but, instead, merely says, "Multiple 
>>> messages
>>> in thread."  
>>> 
>>> If, like me, you would like to once again hear the specific number 
>>> of
>>> messages in a collapsed message thread, please join me in 
>>> submitting a
>>> feedback request to Apple.
>>> 
>>> The following is a feedback request I just submitted to Apple.  
>>> Feel free to
>>> use any or all of it in your submissions.
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> [Begin Feedback]
>>> 
>>> TITLE:
>>> Request to Have VoiceOver Once Again Announce the Number of 
>>> Messages in a
>>> collapsed Email Message Thread
>>> 
>>> DESCRIPTION:
>>> In iOS 8.x and earlier, VoiceOver would announce the actual number 
>>> of
>>> messages in a collapsed email message 

does Seri Speak All The Languages that Voice Over Does?

[Fazil]

Hi, list.

Hindi is one of the languages spoken by VO, should I assume that Seri should
be speaking Hindi too?

Thanks!

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Re: Email losing focus when dictating in iOS 9

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Nancy,

Yeah, the text boxes sometimes seem to work differently.  I had a situation 
the other day where my position was spoken as being somewhere in the text 
and the only way I could get to the end was by moving the cursor.  This 
wasn't too much of a bother and I need to do some more editing before I 
reach a conclusion on this one.


Anyone else had experiences like this?  Were you using an external keyboard 
at the time as I was?


Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "Nancy Badger" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 3:31 AM
Subject: Email losing focus when dictating in iOS 9


Hello,
This is something I have noticed since installing iOS 9. I have also noticed 
it as I have read through email messages on this list today. I dictate the 
subject of the email. Then I double tap on the body of the email to change 
the focus to the body of the email instead of this subject of the email. 
Sometimes the focus remains on the subject and it becomes a very long 
subject. Other times it moves to the end or someplace in the middle of the 
email. I have looked at some emails today where people have accidentally 
written on the bottom of the email. I have also looked at some rather long 
subject lines. Could this be A focus problem in 9.0? I have never had this 
problem before. Has anyone else noticed it?


Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
UT Chattanooga
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.

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Re: is app data included in the iCloud backup

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Yeah, that would be interesting to know.  After all, when you upgrade over 
the air everything (usually) comes back absolutely sorted as you left it, 
though I know for some upgrades (if you have the space) it's not necessary 
that the information is removed, so perhaps that's why!  


Anyone know?

Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "Vicky Collins" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 6:04 AM
Subject: is app data included in the iCloud backup


I know that app data does get backed up to the cloud, but I'm wondering if 
it is a part of an actual iCloud backup, or is it treated separately like 
contacts and calendar data? What is prompting me to ask the question, is 
that I'm trying to figure out just how my app data got restored back to my 
iPhone 6.


Somehow, after I upgraded to iOS 9 from the iOS 9 public beta, opting to 
do that rather than upgrade to the iOS 9.1 beta, I goofed up something 
during the process.  For, when I tried to restore from iTunes, only my 
default apps were showing up, even though my device settings appeared to 
be restored.  Then, when I tried to restore from an iCloud backup, I was 
told there were no backups of my device, even though I had backed up to 
iCloud just a few days before.  Although, to be fair, I had checked iCloud 
earlier before I started this process and was told there were no backups, 
and in fact, the several backups I had then tried to perform had failed, 
something I just attributed to using the beta.  I had, though,  just done 
an encrypted iTunes backup manually.


Thus, after several attempts to restore my apps from the iTunes backup not 
working, I finally just restored once again from that iTunes backup that 
preserved my settings, and then I manually went in and put all my apps 
back on the phone.  I first started adding them through iTunes, but found 
that more time consuming than I liked, so used the app store on my phone 
to put the rest of them back.  Then, I was fully prepared to either put 
all my app data on the phone manually, or just live without it, depending 
on the app.  So, you can imagine just how pleased I was to go into all my 
apps and find all my data there and up to date.  For examples, my two 
checkbook programs had my account transactions even from earlier that day, 
Ariadne GPS showed all my favorites and Weather Radio still showed my 
selected cities.  I figured I had overwritten the iTunes backup with all 
my attempts to fix things, and I had lost my prior iCloud backup somehow 
when working with the beta.


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Re: iOS9 and Fantastical

['Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone]

Hi. 

I've noticed this too, and, as has already been said, it appears  not just to 
be a VoiceOver bug either as my sighted friend tried it without VO and it 
wouldn't let her do anything. She looked to see where we  could report it, but 
it wasn't obvious. So if anyone knows where we go to report this one please let 
us know. 

Eleanor 

Sent from my iPad

> On 21 Sep 2015, at 07:11, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes, you're right there.
>  
> How do I find where to report it?
>  
> Carol P
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 2:21 AM
> Subject: Re: iOS9 and Fantastical
> 
> 
> I just tried it and you are correct.
> But, even without VoiceOver running, my wife couldn't enter anything. She 
> said it was dimmed.
> I think we have a major bug in Fantastical with iOS 9. I also find that when 
> I open Fantastical it takes me to a date either in April of this year, or 
> October of last year.
> Very strange.
> Richard
> 
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 2:24 PM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
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>> 
>> Hi all,
>>  
>> If anyone has upgraded to iOS 9 and uses Fantastical, can you confirm 
>> whether it's working for you when you go to create a new event?  I can 
>> select new event and go to write it in, but then I can't read the screen at 
>> all so can't write it in the edit box.  However, if I add the event using 
>> another diary, I can read and edit that event in Fantastical.
>>  
>> I'd love to know of others' experiences with this and if anyone has an idea 
>> what's going on?
>>  
>> Carol P
>>  
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Re: Need to record distance walked with the iPhone

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

iTreadmill used to do this, and email you regular results summarising your 
efforts.
- Original Message - 
From: "DJ" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 2:35 AM
Subject: RE: Need to record distance walked with the iPhone


I use Walk Log.  It is very accessible and stays on track.

DJ

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Donna
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 1:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need to record distance walked with the iPhone

Here's an app that I have used in the past. The app is accessible with VO.
And the app does what you want plus more. The drawback, for me anyway, to
get the full features of the app there is a $6.00 monthly charge or $30.00
yearly charge.

Donna


> On Mar 17, 2015, at 9:32 AM, David Cleveland 
wrote:
>
> I am looking for a way to tell how far I have walked using the iPhone.  I
like to walk around my neighborhood but I can't really tell how far I have
walked.  I was wondering if there is an app that I can use to do this.  I
would like it to use GPS to tell me how far it is from my starting point to
my ending point.  My walking path goes in a loop and traditional GPS mapping
apps don't like this and keep urging me to turn back home.
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Re: Dictation, Facebook, and unwanted chatter from voiceover while dictating

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My one comment, is that verbal input needs to be quite short,  Siri has a short 
attention span.  The input cursor stays at the end 
of what you last typed,  so you can always hit "Dictate" again, and say some 
more.  Keep it short, and tell it "comma" or "dot" as 
you go.  Don't be too slow saying it or it gets added as another word. Good 
dictation isn't as easy as it sounds, if you want 
somebody to read it.
- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Otten" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 2:32 AM
Subject: Dictation, Facebook, and unwanted chatter from voiceover while 
dictating


A couple of days ago, when I upgraded my for S, I noted that I had a problem 
when trying to dictate a comment on Facebook, which was 
that voiceover started talking while I was still dictating. That resulted in 
trouble concentrating for me and a garbled mess for my 
comment. I rebooted the phone and then dictated an email message, which went 
fine. So I thought the problem was solved, or was 
perhaps something to do with my for S being slow.
I have been using this 5S to dictate several email messages. I just tried doing 
a Facebook comment, and, lo and behold, I got the 
unwanted intrusion a voiceover dictating before I was through. Has anyone else 
noticed this problem when dictating into something 
other than a mail message, where you hear back what you were saying before you 
have double tapped to indicate you're done? Is this a 
bug or is it just me?
I was using the Siri female voice when this latest intrusion happened. Now I'm 
using Alex. I suppose I should try and email using 
the Siri female voice to make sure that it isn't Alex that is doing a good job, 
and the bug that is appearing elsewhere.
Mary

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Re: Email losing focus when dictating in iOS 9

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

Sounds more like a focus issue of iOs itself.
- Original Message - 
From: "Nancy Badger" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 3:31 AM
Subject: Email losing focus when dictating in iOS 9


Hello,
This is something I have noticed since installing iOS 9. I have also noticed it 
as I have read through email messages on this list 
today. I dictate the subject of the email. Then I double tap on the body of the 
email to change the focus to the body of the email 
instead of this subject of the email. Sometimes the focus remains on the 
subject and it becomes a very long subject. Other times it 
moves to the end or someplace in the middle of the email. I have looked at some 
emails today where people have accidentally written 
on the bottom of the email. I have also looked at some rather long subject 
lines. Could this be A focus problem in 9.0? I have never 
had this problem before. Has anyone else noticed it?

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
UT Chattanooga
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Re: "Voice Braille Reader", New Leverage to Use Braille Files on iOS

[John J Jacques]

Hi all, will this app read .BRF files downloaded with the BARD app?

Have a good one:
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RE: keyboard lock is off while calling

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Has she done a reboot since the update? If not that would be the first step to 
try and if that doesn't fix it I wold try a Reset Network Settings.


-Original Message-
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Davy Cuppens
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 2:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: keyboard lock is off while calling

Hi

A friend of mine has done the update. Now her keys are nolonger protected 
while having a phone call. If she moves somewaht with her ears on the 
screen, voiceover just begins talking or performing some unwanted action. Is 
there a setting to lock the virtual keyboardwhile calling?
Regards
Davy 

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RE: Question about passcode and answering phone calls

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Rose,

 

It really is a simple process, I will explain it one more time and if you 
follow these steps it should work just fine.

 

1.   After you start the process of adding a fingerprint, place the finger 
you want to use on the hone button. You will feel a very small and short 
vibration each time a successful reading is taken.

2.   After the vibration, lift the finger and put it down again in a 
slightly different position, repeat after each vibration trying to cover most 
of the area between your finger tip and the first joint of your finger or thumb.

3.   At some point you get that message about adjusting your grip and to 
capture the edges of your finger. If you simply swipe left or right around the 
screen you will find a “Continue” bvutton. Double tap it and then again place 
your finger on the home button and as requested do it more towards the edges of 
your finger.

4.   After another set of readings you will get the message that Touch Id 
is now ready.

 

Make sure when you put your finger on the home button to put it straight down, 
don’t put it down and then move or slide it around because maybe you only have 
half of it on the button, just lift it and continue, it will take as many 
readings as it needs to make sure it has a good image.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rose Combs
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 3:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question about passcode and answering phone calls

 

I have never, ever gotten past the trip message regardless of what I have tried 
in more than 25 times of trying this.  For me, it just isn’t going to happen as 
nothing works and I eventually end up canceling out.  I am not normally 
terribly patient but I’d think trying to do this for more than 20 minutes at a 
time would be enough.  

 

 

 

Rose Combs

roseco...@q.com  

A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 2:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about passcode and answering phone calls

 

Hi Rose, the prompt you are getting is to adjust your grip. Just double-tap the 
Continue button, move the phone about slightly, and then you can finish the 
process. You'll know it's over when the phone says "Touch IS is ready".

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org

 

On 22/09/2015, at 8:21 AM, Rose Combs  
> wrote:

 

Fingerprint for me has never been a go, have tried it multiple times and I mean 
like about 20 or so in the past year and not once does it work despite 
instructions, I get to a point where it says it shows a picture and I am 
supposed to grab something, never figure out what and so I don't get it to 
happen, and I am alone with no eyes to help, if I ask a family member they just 
tell me if I can't get it to work I don't need it.  See family about once a 
month if that.  
So if it does not work, it won't and for me, the only person I know that it 
does not work for, it won't work.  Just tried again with 9 update, same 
results, absolutely none.  
I probably typed them off with more than 39 years of doing transcription, don't 
laugh, my mother applied for a job once at a school and they could not get 
fingerprint on her she went back four different times before they finally got 
some.  So I suppose the same could be true for me since my cousin says I 
inherited her fingernails.  
For those who have poo-hooed me in the past, don't bother, I  already know you 
think my theory is not possible, don't need to hear it again.  

For me, fingerprint is not happening and I surmise never will.  

Rose Combs
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dacia.l...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 7:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question about passcode and answering phone calls

Hi,
When I upgraded to I OS 9 yesterday, it made me create a passcode. I chose not 
to do the fingerprint, as that seems more complicated to me. However, now 
anytime I want to do anything, I have to enter the passcode. Does that include 
answering phone calls? I hope not, as that is very annoying, and takes a little 
bit of time to enter the passcode, and by the time you enter it, the call will 
be ended.
Thank you,
Dacia
PS, if I want to disable the passcode, what I go into settings, and touch ID, 
then do something from there?

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Trouble adjusting VO speaking rate on AppleWatch after update

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Hi,

Updated to Watch os2 without apparent problem. After, VO speaking rate seemed 
slower, but Applewatch app indicates 50%.

Tried to flick up or down in AppleWatch app on the iPhone, but can't seem to 
make any progress. Any hints?

Thanks in advance, Keith

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using Braille display with IOS 9.0

[Rebecca Ilniski]

Hi all.  When I use my Apex or other Braille displays that I have worked 
with on my IPhone with IoS 9.0 after typing in an edit field whether I'm 
in the messages or mail app I can not use dot four chord or move to each 
field any other way.  It seems that Braille is broken in this version of 
IOS.  It doesn't matter whether I have the quick nav on or off and I've 
tried resetting the phone as well as my apex.  Is anyone else having an 
issue using a braille display with IOS 9 and if so is there a way around 
it?


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RE: Taking notes for meeting, Mac or iPad?

[Richard Turner]

Rose,
Try Function F5.  That is how both my Work Del and my home Toshiba now turn off 
the touch pad.
I find I often have to turn it off again after rebooting, but at least I can 
turn it off.

I hope that works.  I hate touchpads.

Richard


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Rose Combs
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 2:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Taking notes for meeting, Mac or iPad?

I feel your pain, I am doing a project at church in a few weeks and they asked 
if I had a laptop, I do, and at home I connect a wireless keyboard.  However, 
if I were to carry it around with me not an option and I am constantly hitting 
the touch pad on a Lenovo laptop and sending it to who knows where, I hate how 
far the keyboard is back, makes me lean forward and I keep resting the palm of 
either hand on the stupid thing,  On the Toshiba my husband had, very old, I 
could turn that off with function key 9, can't seem to do it on the Lenovo with 
any key, not even through the control panel, maybe it can be done, but so far 
not by me.  

I'd much rather type notes etc. but for now it looks like I will learn the 
Focus 14 commands which I did not have time for last spring when I bought the 
device and braille.  I love braille, don't get me wrong, however, in the past 
nearly 40 years I have typed 8 hours or more a day,  brailed just maybe a 
couple of times a week or less.  I once was very fast but now am not, 
especially on tiny keys on a braille display.  Well have to devote time to this 
instead of other things to make it work for me, I use the Focus minimally thus 
far as I was working full time in the spring, transitioning to a new company 
not by my choice, then ill, was terminated and am now retired earlier than I 
wished to be.  

Any display users, especially of the Focus are welcome to contact me at 
roseco...@q.com 

I read braille perfectly, recognize mistakes easily but, these little keys are 
going to be my downfall.  I used a Braille note for years, loved it but, 
probably will need something I can use where others can see what is happening 
is the reason I was asked about a laptop or I device.  My iPad is wifi only and 
bought just at the end of its cycle in early September 2013 as a present after 
I taught my husband how to use one with VO and zoom for him not me.  He bought 
me a mini after that and just before new announcements were made.  First gen so 
although I use it at home, it isn't going anywhere and his was donated to a 
friend who spent months on a ventilator unable to talk but very much mentally 
with it.  I helped set it up so it could talk for him after my husband passed a 
year ago in the spring.  
So choice now looks like either hooking the Focus to the laptop via Bluetooth, 
if I can or using my iPhone which would be less to carry.  
My Braille note is an mPower, and if no one needed to see what I was doing, and 
if I could get it to connect to my home network so I could load it easier it 
would be my choice.  

I still use it but cannot get it to connect to anything even with a network 
card these days.  Never truly worked well in that regard anyway.  However, 
makes it useless as an e-mail client also and probably would not open the 
documents I will be sent.  
Long story as to why I did not upgrade it, let's just say HW and I are no 
longer friendly.  

Rose Combs
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Taking notes for meeting, Mac or iPad?

I have been asked to substitute as a minutes take her for an upcoming meeting. 
I used to do this on a PC laptop in MS Word with complete confidence and 
competence. However, that laptop is long since gone and buried.
At this point, my choices are to use my eye pad with a Bluetooth keyboard and 
pray that I don't get bit by the Bluetooth bug in iOS 9, choosing among apps 
such as voice dream writer or the new notes app. Or I could borrow my husbands 
11 inch MacBook air, with which I am not that familiar, and use something like 
text at it. Neither prospect is exciting. I'm looking for something that is 
going to be reliable and foolproof. As in me being a fool and screwing up their 
minutes. What do people think would be the easiest thing to do the most 
foolproof thing? This is, assuming I don't get the Bluetooth bug that wipes out 
my iPad? Most about using the MacBook is hitting that darned oversized touchpad 
and ending up somewhere where I really don't want to be and not having a clue 
how to get back where I need to be in the text writing app.
Mary

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RE: Two small features in iOS 9 that I really I'm going to love

[Thom Spittle]

A 3 finger quadruple tap will copy a block of text to the clipboard.

Thom


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Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 9:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two small features in iOS 9 that I really I'm going to love

Yes, if you could do that crazy pinch gesture with reliability, which I never 
could, you could copy stuff off of webpages. This is way easier in my opinion.
Mary

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> On Sep 21, 2015, at 6:04 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> I don't have a phone running IOS 8 where I can test this any more, but I'm 
> pretty sure I used to select text from things like web pages in Safari and 
> paste it into LinkedIn updates. You'd have to use the pinch gesture first to 
> highlight some text and then the copy option would show up in the roter.
> 
>> On 09/21/2015 11:21 AM, Gmail wrote:
>> In earlier versions of iOS, before nine, though, I don't think you can 
>> select text outside of an edit field. Correct me if this is wrong.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 11:02 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Exactly what I do. Or simply select the text then copy it to the clipboard. 
>>> That new feature may be more convenient for others though.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Feliciano
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 On Sep 20, 2015, at 5:08 PM, Brent Harding  wrote:
 
 In 8, when I have to copy garbage strings, I have VO speak it and then the 
 3 finger quad tap, but you often get extra junk with it as well that you 
 don't want in there because it literally copies what VO spoke.
 
 - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
 
 To: 
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 6:49 PM
 Subject: Two small features in iOS 9 that I really I'm going to 
 love
 
 
 Have you ever had to copy out one of those long garbage letter number 
 passwords and paste it somewhere else? That alone is going to make the 
 text selection feature of iOS 9 a huge timesaver for me. Plus, when I have 
 to reenter my email address or password, as is so common, presto, copy 
 text. Paste done.
 The other one I'm going to love is that little back button up in the top 
 left of the status line. If you get emails with links, which you follow 
 and read the article, then want to go back to mail, how cool is it that 
 you can just tap that little button and not have to open the app switcher, 
 find the mail app, and return. It's a little thing, but I love it.
 Mary
 
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Re: Siri voice for voice over

[Kathy Metters]

Something is seriously wrong with the Samantha voice. Sounds like she had a 
very bad operation and it didn't go well. OS9 was not kind to her. Samantha 
sounds like she has an extreme case of laryngitis. She absolutely sounds awful! 
I guess we will have to learn to live with Siri, because living with Samantha 
is absolutely impossible.

Katie Lady Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2015, at 6:24 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I first upgraded my for S. And I tried both Siri voices and was very unhappy, 
> because of the really long pauses between sentences and lines. But just 
> recently, I bit the bullet and upgraded my 5S, which will soon be replaced 
> with a 6S, whenever T-Mobile gets them in ships one out to me.
> Since my favorite female voice is not available for reading Kindle books on 
> the iPhone, and since they have screwed it up on the android version of 
> Kendall, where you get unnatural pauses between lines with that same voice, 
> Kendra, I tried the Siri female voice. And I think I'm going to really try to 
> live with it. It is certainly better than Samantha. So for those of you who 
> don't care for Samantha, and have something faster than the four ss, give it 
> a try.
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Bluetooth keyboards and commands for iPad

[Mary Otten]

I saw a list of Bluetooth keyboards commands that they did from iOS 7 I 
believe. I wonder if there is something newer. I know there are many new 
commands in iOS nine, but apparently the popovers that show these are not 
accessible to us. Not too helpful there, Apple.also I wonder if anyone still 
makes a full-size Bluetooth keyboard that works with Apple devices. Matt Ally 
used to make one, but I haven't seen it around lately in the Mac store. I have 
an Apple keyboard, but it's missing a control key to the right of the . Also I 
wonder if anyone still makes a full-size Bluetooth keyboard that works with 
Apple devices. Mac Ally used to make one, but I haven't seen it around lately 
in the Mac store. I have an Apple keyboard, but it's missing a control key to 
the right of the spacebar.. I hate that. So I'm looking for something that 
is full-size if it still exists.
Mary

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Re: Two small features in iOS 9 that I really I'm going to love

[Kathy Metters]

I absolutely love the text selection feature in iOS nine it's one of the best 
improvement regarding voiceover so far for me.

Katie Lady Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 21, 2015, at 9:21 AM, Gmail  wrote:
> 
> In earlier versions of iOS, before nine, though, I don't think you can select 
> text outside of an edit field. Correct me if this is wrong.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 11:02 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Exactly what I do. Or simply select the text then copy it to the clipboard. 
>> That new feature may be more convenient for others though.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Feliciano
>> For tech tips and updates, 
>> LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
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>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 5:08 PM, Brent Harding  wrote:
>>> 
>>> In 8, when I have to copy garbage strings, I have VO speak it and then the 
>>> 3 finger quad tap, but you often get extra junk with it as well that you 
>>> don't want in there because it literally copies what VO spoke.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 6:49 PM
>>> Subject: Two small features in iOS 9 that I really I'm going to love
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Have you ever had to copy out one of those long garbage letter number 
>>> passwords and paste it somewhere else? That alone is going to make the text 
>>> selection feature of iOS 9 a huge timesaver for me. Plus, when I have to 
>>> reenter my email address or password, as is so common, presto, copy text. 
>>> Paste done.
>>> The other one I'm going to love is that little back button up in the top 
>>> left of the status line. If you get emails with links, which you follow and 
>>> read the article, then want to go back to mail, how cool is it that you can 
>>> just tap that little button and not have to open the app switcher, find the 
>>> mail app, and return. It's a little thing, but I love it.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: "Voice Braille Reader", New Leverage to Use Braille Files on iOS

[numamoto jun]

HI, John J Jacques,

Thank you for your interest.
Since we are not accessible with NLS by ourselves due to restriction on 
Nationality, we are not familiar with BARD app,
but, we assume BARD app do not have function to let other app use their 
downloaded files.
So, you have to download same file again for Voice Braille Reader by Safari on 
iOS or iTunes on your Mac or PC.
I hope this would help you understand better of Voice Braille Reader.

Regards,

Jun @C-FES Japan 



> 2015/09/22 13:20、John J Jacques  のメール：
> 
> Hi all, will this app read .BRF files downloaded with the BARD app?
> 
> Have a good one:
> John
> 
> 
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RE: Power saving mode

[Richard Turner]

BTW, I discovered that while Power Mode is active, the auto lock switches to 30 
seconds.  I wondered why my phone was locking so bloody fast.

 

Once Power Mode turns off, auto lock goes back to whatever you had it set to.

 

Richard

 

 

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Steve
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 12:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Power saving mode

 

Oops, I didn't charge mine that high yet--that's why I had to do it manually.

- Original Message - 

From: Ricardo Walker   

To: viphone   

Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 6:51 PM

Subject: Re: Power saving mode

 

Hi,

Low power mode turns off automatically when your phone is charged to 80%.

hth
> On Sep 19, 2015, at 6:32 PM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' 
>   via VIPhone 
>  > wrote:
> 
> Anyone know if, once put Power Saving Mode on, you then have to manually turn 
> it off once you charge the unit, or does that happen automatically?
> 
> Carol P
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Sieghard Weitzel"   >
> To:  >
> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 10:41 PM
> Subject: RE: Power saving mode
> 
> 
>> Apple is calling this "Low Power Mode" and hence I assume Apple has meant 
>> for this to be used once you get your 20% low battery warning and you want 
>> to get the most out of your remaining battery life.
>> When the low battery warning appears, the option to turn on low power mode 
>> is on the screen.
>> You can, however, manually enable it very quickly and easily by telling SIRI 
>> "Turn on Power Saving Mode".
>> This will display the "Low Power Mode" explanation screen and you can at 
>> that point tap cancel to not turn it on or tap continue and low power mode 
>> will be turned on.
>> OK, so I now just tried this again and this time it just turned it on 
>> without showing me that screen, but either way, you can turn it on and off 
>> with SIRI. I do agree, though, that this would be not a bad additional 
>> option to have in control centre.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Traci Duncan
>> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 12:39 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> Subject: Power saving mode
>> 
>> Where is a good place to suggest things to Apple?
>> 
>> I want to know, why in the world did they not put this power saving option 
>> in control center?  That would make it easily accessible to toggle on/off.
>> 
>> Would this be an appropriate thing to do via feedback assistant for public 
>> beta?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Traci
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GMA+CMDA VS. GMA?

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi all.
My model number doesn't match any of the numbers in the link Siegheard
provided... and I don't have eyes to read the back of the phone.  I
went in to settings/general/about, and found that model number.  So,
since I can't find the matching one... how would I know if my phone
uses CDMA+GMA or just GMA?  I use At in the us.
Thanks if anyone can help.
Jen

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Re: GMA+CMDA VS. GMA?

[Jenifer Barr]

Oh, sorry... also I have a 64 gb 5s.  Sorry about that.

On 9/21/15, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> Hi all.
> My model number doesn't match any of the numbers in the link Siegheard
> provided... and I don't have eyes to read the back of the phone.  I
> went in to settings/general/about, and found that model number.  So,
> since I can't find the matching one... how would I know if my phone
> uses CDMA+GMA or just GMA?  I use At in the us.
> Thanks if anyone can help.
> Jen
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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: VoiceOver No Longer Announcing Number of Messages in the Native iOS 9 Mail App

[Jenifer Barr]

Thanks, I may just do that.  (smile)

On 9/21/15, christopher hallsworth  wrote:
> You can get the beta here
> http://beta.apple.com
> you must sign in and enrol your device(s) before you can install the beta.
> Note this is a public, not a developer, beta which the latter requires a
> paid developer account. The public beta program however is free to anyone
> with an Apple ID.
>> On 21 Sep 2015, at 04:10, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>>
>> When will the beta come out? Also... I hope the call bug and the bug where
>> vo crashes after sending email is fixed!!! Sorry beta police!!! Call it
>> updater's remorse!!! lol
>>
>> Jenifer Barr
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 8:53 PM, John Diakogeorgiou 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I can't say because the beta police may come after me.
>>>
>>> John Diakogeorgiou
>>>
 On Sep 20, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Donna  wrote:

 What did you do to fix the bug I have restored all settings several
 times & did a hard reboot also. Still have the problem! Not that it's a
 deal breaker for me.

 Donna

> On Sep 20, 2015, at 7:45 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
>
> Yes me too!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou
> Sent: 20 September 2015 19:02
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A CALL TO ACTION: VoiceOver No Longer Announcing Number of
> Messages in the Native iOS 9 Mail App
>
> It's fixed for me..
>
> John Diakogeorgiou
>
>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 12:32 PM, Donna  wrote:
>>
>> No it hasn't been fixed in 9.1! Unless one keeps resetting network
>> settings or resetting all settings.
>>
>> Donna
>>
>>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 8:11 AM, John Diakogeorgiou
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Here go the apple police again!!! If some one tells you that Apple
>>> has fixed a bug then by not bugging themb we are letting them better
>>> utilize their time. They don't have to waste time looking at problems
>>> which they have already resolved. I'll be muting this now.
>>>
>>> John Diakogeorgiou
>>>
 On Sep 20, 2015, at 1:01 AM, Shawn Krasniuk 
 wrote:

 I hope you realize that you just violated NDA by saying that.

 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
 Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
 Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
 Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

> On Sep 19, 2015, at 11:36 AM, Wil James 
> wrote:
>
> There is good news on the horizon. That issue is fixed and I OS
> 9.1.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 19, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Woody Anna Dresner
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I think it's great if people write in about this. FYI, I reported
>> it during the beta cycle and was told it was a duplicate bug
>> report, so they do know about it, but having more people say it's
>> important to get it fixed should help.
>>
>> Best,
>> Anna
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Tom Lange 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi. I'll definitely do that, as that's an issue that's really
>>> annoying me at the moment. We should write to
>>>
>>> accessibil...@apple.com
>>>
>>> Right?
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Sep 18, 2015, at 3:48 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

 Hello Everyone,

 You may have noticed that in the currently released version of
 the native
 iOS 9 Mail app, VoiceOver no longer announces the actual number
 of messages
 in a collapsed message thread but, instead, merely says,
 "Multiple messages
 in thread."

 If, like me, you would like to once again hear the specific
 number of
 messages in a collapsed message thread, please join me in
 submitting a
 feedback request to Apple.

 The following is a feedback request I just submitted to Apple.
 Feel free to
 use any or all of it in your submissions.

 Thank you,

 Mark

 [Begin Feedback]

 TITLE:
 Request to Have VoiceOver Once Again Announce the Number of
 Messages in a
 

Re: Selecting text in a kindle book

[Mary Otten]

Well, all I can say is that I have text selection in my rotor, and when I 
flipped around the rotor with the Kindle book open, it didn't show up. 
Therefore, I assume it will not appear in the Kindle app. I don't know why this 
book would've been an exception.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 21, 2015, at 12:37 AM, christopher hallsworth 
>  wrote:
> 
> I thought text selection would work for any text fields, even read only ones, 
> regardless of the app in use?
>> On 21 Sep 2015, at 05:05, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> I was not surprised to see that I could not select text with the new text 
>> selection feature in iOS 9 when reading a Kindle book. Kendall hasn't been 
>> updated for iOS 9. I hope, when it is updated, they will recognize the ease 
>> of this feature. But I'm not going to hold my breath. This is, after all, 
>> Amazon we are talking about.
>> I don't remember the somewhat convoluted method you're supposed to use when 
>> selecting text in a Kindle book. I double tap for the menu, and nothing 
>> jumped out at me. Does anybody remember how to do that?
>> Mary
>> 
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Re: GMA+CMDA VS. GMA?

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'm not sure what you're referring to, and I don't see a link in your 
message, but if you're on AT then you don't use CDMA. You use GSM as 
described in this article 
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2407896,00.asp


On 09/21/2015 06:03 AM, Jenifer Barr wrote:

Hi all.
My model number doesn't match any of the numbers in the link Siegheard
provided... and I don't have eyes to read the back of the phone.  I
went in to settings/general/about, and found that model number.  So,
since I can't find the matching one... how would I know if my phone
uses CDMA+GMA or just GMA?  I use At in the us.
Thanks if anyone can help.
Jen



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Re: hey Siri using power

[Sherrie]

I am also planning to get the 6S but how do you know that the Hey Siri will 
work with earphones or blue tooth headsets? I don't know if these items have 
the mic always engaged.

Just wondering. Hope you are right.
Sherrie Gosling


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: hey siri using power

Hi Don,

As Christopher pointed out, if the phone is constantly on alert to listen to 
Hey SIRI, it puts a lot of drain on the battery. Aple has apparently solved 
this problem with the new 6S and 6S Plus hardware where Hey SIRI is 
available all the time. I actually really look forward to that and it is one 
feature which made me decide to upgrade my 5S to a 6S because I do live in 
northern BC where it can get pretty cold in the winter and if I can wear a 
wired or bluetooth headset and just say "Hey SIRI" to wake up SIRI while I 
am out and about, then that is definitely a good thing when my iPhone is 
under my coat and I am wearing gloves.



Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: hey siri using power

It's because it's such a power intensive feature. It would put a lot of
drain on your battery. Here's a Q that talks about this
https://www.quora.com/Why-does-the-new-feature-hey-Siri-in-iOS-8-work-only-when-charging

On 09/20/2015 01:03 AM, don bishop wrote:
Does anyone know why you need to beusing according power to get "hey siri" 
to work?


Thanks,
Don




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RE: Selecting text in a kindle book

[Richard Turner]

It isn't showing up for me either in Kindle books.  I wonder if it has anything 
to do with the way Kindle takes over the entire screen.  The "Speak Screen" 
function doesn't work with Kindle either, so You can't start a book reading and 
lock the device.


Richard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 6:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Selecting text in a kindle book

Well, all I can say is that I have text selection in my rotor, and when I 
flipped around the rotor with the Kindle book open, it didn't show up. 
Therefore, I assume it will not appear in the Kindle app. I don't know why this 
book would've been an exception.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 21, 2015, at 12:37 AM, christopher hallsworth 
>  wrote:
> 
> I thought text selection would work for any text fields, even read only ones, 
> regardless of the app in use?
>> On 21 Sep 2015, at 05:05, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> I was not surprised to see that I could not select text with the new text 
>> selection feature in iOS 9 when reading a Kindle book. Kendall hasn't been 
>> updated for iOS 9. I hope, when it is updated, they will recognize the ease 
>> of this feature. But I'm not going to hold my breath. This is, after all, 
>> Amazon we are talking about.
>> I don't remember the somewhat convoluted method you're supposed to use when 
>> selecting text in a Kindle book. I double tap for the menu, and nothing 
>> jumped out at me. Does anybody remember how to do that?
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Siri voice for voice over

[Sieghard Weitzel]

OK,thenI guess Andrew must have been looking in the wrong spot. If you read 
this, Andrew, make sure you go into Voiceover settings and then Speech and not 
the Speech option in the main accessibility settings. Once you are there you 
can either add US English as another language which allows you to leave 
Samanthas as the default dialect and you can select/download either male or 
female SIRI once you added US English and then use the rotor to go to Language 
and change it on the fly.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
John J Jacques
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 6:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri voice for voice over

Hi all, they are deffinatly available for the 4 s and up, as I just added them 
to my girlfriends 4 s!

Have a good one:
John


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Managing podcasts from down cast

[Tom Rash]

I have 2 GB of downloaded podcasts.  I thought I set it up to stream my
podcasts.  I did this a while ago and don't remember how to do it.  Is there
a way to delete a fair number of podcasts without unsubscribing?  Whenever I
try to delete something it wants to know if I'm  sure I want to delete and
unsubscribe?  I just want to delete podcasts without unsubscribing.  Thanks
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Re: Voiceover keyboard and Braille display commands

[Christopher Chaltain]

I don't know if this list has been updated for IOS 9 yet or not, but 
this might be a good starting point for you 
http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/en/iph6c494dc6.html


On 09/21/2015 12:11 AM, denise avant wrote:

Hello all,

I am searching for a link to a list of the IOS 9 keyboard commands with 
voiceover,  and also a list of Braille display commands. Would anyone have a 
link for these tools? thanks.



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RE: GMA+CMDA VS. GMA?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Jennifer,

It's GSM not GMA, if you are with AT your phone will be a GSM only phone, I 
believe in the States only Verizon and Sprint have the GSM/CDMA model. It 
would, however, still be a good idea to be sure and ask somebody to tell  you 
the number on the back of your phone, that model number will most likely be 
A1533 and it is not available anywhere in Settings > About.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Jenifer Barr
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: GMA+CMDA VS. GMA?

Thanks Chris.  You're right I forgot to post the link.  Sorry.
http://www.iphonehacks.com/download-iphone-ios-firmware
I was trying to figure out which firmware to install.  There are two
versions for the 5s, one for GMA+CDMA phones, and one for just GMA.
Sorry about that.
Jen

On 9/21/15, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> I'm not sure what you're referring to, and I don't see a link in your
> message, but if you're on AT then you don't use CDMA. You use GSM as
> described in this article
> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2407896,00.asp
>
> On 09/21/2015 06:03 AM, Jenifer Barr wrote:
>> Hi all.
>> My model number doesn't match any of the numbers in the link Siegheard
>> provided... and I don't have eyes to read the back of the phone.  I
>> went in to settings/general/about, and found that model number.  So,
>> since I can't find the matching one... how would I know if my phone
>> uses CDMA+GMA or just GMA?  I use At in the us.
>> Thanks if anyone can help.
>> Jen
>>
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Re: Siri voice for voice over

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi Shawn,

I have upgraded to iOS9 on iphone 5C.  Does this also make it possible to use 
siri voice as the default voice for VoiceOver?  I've looked under speech in 
accessibility in settings and also under siri but I can't see an option to do 
this.  Maybe iphone 5C is not capable to utilise siri voice as VoiceOver voice. 
 

Andrew
> On 21 Sep 2015, at 01:40, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> Did you configure the Siri voices to work with your default dialect or did 
> you use a secondary language for it? Also, check if you downloaded them 
> through the speech setting by itself in accessibility. I saw someone did that 
> and wondered why it wasn't working for them but then they realized that they 
> downloaded it in the wrong place so it wasn't showing up in Voiceover.
> 
> Shawn
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>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 6:46 PM, DJ  wrote:
>> 
>> I can't get the siri voices to work for VO on my 5.  It let's me select
>> them, but even after they download they still won't talk.  It still uses
>> Samantha voice.  Oh well.
>> 
>> DJ 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 9:25 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Siri voice for voice over
>> 
>> I first upgraded my for S. And I tried both Siri voices and was very
>> unhappy, because of the really long pauses between sentences and lines. But
>> just recently, I bit the bullet and upgraded my 5S, which will soon be
>> replaced with a 6S, whenever T-Mobile gets them in ships one out to me.
>> Since my favorite female voice is not available for reading Kindle books on
>> the iPhone, and since they have screwed it up on the android version of
>> Kendall, where you get unnatural pauses between lines with that same voice,
>> Kendra, I tried the Siri female voice. And I think I'm going to really try
>> to live with it. It is certainly better than Samantha. So for those of you
>> who don't care for Samantha, and have something faster than the four ss,
>> give it a try.
>> Sent from my iPhone
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iOS 9 Braille commands with a few extra from Applevis

[Richard Turner]

I found a few new braille commands on the Applevis web site for iOS 9.  I've
included them in the below list.

They are for two finger double tap, toggling quicknav andfor the double tap
and hold gestures.

 

Common braille commands for VoiceOver navigation using iPhone, iPad, and
iPod touch

When using a braille display with VoiceOver in iOS, your braille display may
support the following commands to help with navigation.

Braille command (chord) VoiceOver action

Dot 1-Space bar Move to previous item

Dot 4-Space bar Move to next item

Dot 3-Space bar Move to previous item using rotor setting

Dot 6-Space bar Move to next item using rotor setting

Dot 2-3-Space bar Select previous rotor setting

Dot 5-6-Space bar Select next rotor setting

Dot 1-2-3-Space bar Move to the first element

Dot 4-5-6-Space bar Move to the last element

Dot 1-2-3-5-Space bar Read page starting at selected item

Dot 2-4-5-6-Space bar Read page starting at the top

Dot 1-2-5-Space bar Activates the Home button

Dot 2-3-4-Space bar Goes to the status bar

Dot 3-4-5-Space bar Activates the Volume Up button

Dot 1-2-6-Space bar Activates the Volume Down button

Dot 1-2-Space bar Activates the Back button if present

Dot 1-4-6-Space bar Activates the Eject key

Dot 7-Space bar Activates the Delete key

Dot 1-4-5-Space bar Activates the Delete key

Dot 8-Space bar Activates the Return key

Dot 1-5-Space bar Activates the Return key

Dot 2-3-4-5-Space bar Activates the Tab key

Dot 1-2-3-4-5-6-Space bar Toggle Screen Curtain on and off

Dot 1-2-3-4-Space bar Pause or continue speech

Dot 1-3-4-Space bar Toggle speech on and off

Dot 3-4-Space bar Speak page number or rows being displayed

Dot 3-4-5-6-Space bar Scroll up one page

Dot 1-4-5-6-Space bar Scroll down one page

Dot 2-4-6-Space bar Scroll left one page

Dot 1-3-5-Space bar Scroll right one page

Dot 2-3-5-Space bar Deselect text

Dot 2-5-6-Space bar Select text

Dot 2-3-5-6-Space bar Select all

Dot 1-3-4-6-Space bar Cut

Dot 1-4-Space bar Copy

Dot 1-2-3-6-Space bar Paste

Dot 1-3-5-6-Space bar Undo typing

Dot 2-3-4-6-Space bar Redo typing

Dot 2-Space bar Pan braille to the left

Dot 5-Space bar Pan braille to the right

Dot 4-6-Space bar Goes to Notification Center

Dot 2-5-Space bar Goes to Control Center

Dot 1-3-4-5-Space bar Toggle announcement history

Dot 1-2-4-5-Space bar Switch between contracted and uncontracted braille

dot 1-2-3-4-5-7-space bar Toggle QuickNav

dot 5-6-7-8-space bar Double tap and hold

dot 1-5-6-space bar two finger double tap

 

iPad only commands

Dot 1-7-Space bar Move to previous container

Dot 4-7-Space bar Move to next container

dot 1-6-space bar Side App Switcher

Dot 1-5-space bar focus to the left in Side app Switcher

Dot 2-6-space bar moves focus to the right in Side app Switcher

 

 

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Re: GMA+CMDA VS. GMA?

[Jenifer Barr]

Ok, thanks Sieghard. I will try and do that before apple pulls 8.4.1. 

Jenifer Barr
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 21, 2015, at 9:21 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jennifer,
> 
> It's GSM not GMA, if you are with AT your phone will be a GSM only phone, I 
> believe in the States only Verizon and Sprint have the GSM/CDMA model. It 
> would, however, still be a good idea to be sure and ask somebody to tell  you 
> the number on the back of your phone, that model number will most likely be 
> A1533 and it is not available anywhere in Settings > About.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jenifer Barr
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 5:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: GMA+CMDA VS. GMA?
> 
> Thanks Chris.  You're right I forgot to post the link.  Sorry.
> http://www.iphonehacks.com/download-iphone-ios-firmware
> I was trying to figure out which firmware to install.  There are two
> versions for the 5s, one for GMA+CDMA phones, and one for just GMA.
> Sorry about that.
> Jen
> 
>> On 9/21/15, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>> I'm not sure what you're referring to, and I don't see a link in your
>> message, but if you're on AT then you don't use CDMA. You use GSM as
>> described in this article
>> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2407896,00.asp
>> 
>>> On 09/21/2015 06:03 AM, Jenifer Barr wrote:
>>> Hi all.
>>> My model number doesn't match any of the numbers in the link Siegheard
>>> provided... and I don't have eyes to read the back of the phone.  I
>>> went in to settings/general/about, and found that model number.  So,
>>> since I can't find the matching one... how would I know if my phone
>>> uses CDMA+GMA or just GMA?  I use At in the us.
>>> Thanks if anyone can help.
>>> Jen
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Re: Power saving mode

[Russ Kiehne]

Here is what I get on my 5th generation ipod touch when I ask Siri to turn 
it on.

Sorry, but I can’t change Low Power Mode on your iPod.

-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 4:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Power saving mode

You could always try to turn it on by asking SIRI to do it on your iPod 
Touch. It does work on the iPhone.



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Of Richard Turner

Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Power saving mode

Well, this is interesting.
After reading the article that was posted, I went into settings battery on 
my iPhone 5s, and sure enough, at the top was a setting for low power mode 
that can be manually enabled.
I then went to my iPod Touch 6, and look in the battery settings and there 
is no power mode setting.

But, like I said, it seems to do it automatically when it gets down to 20%.
Time will tell if that is a good thing or not on the touch. But, since it 
cuts performance, I'm glad it is a setting on the phone.

Richard



On Sep 20, 2015, at 8:14 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:

Not on my 5th generation ipod touch.

-Original Message- From: Jeffrey Shockley
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Power saving mode

Hi,
It's in Settings/Battery.
Hope this helps,
Jeffrey

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 20, 2015, at 10:46 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:

I'll see if I get that option when I get the 20% battery warning.

-Original Message- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Power saving mode


I didn't find it as a setting. When my iPod touch 6th generation gave me 
the 20% battery warning it annouced low power mode and there was an OK 
button I think. It happened quickly.
When I plugged it in and charged it up to 100% and unplugged it, it 
announced that low power mode was turned off and it was sufficiently 
charged or something like that.

Richard



On Sep 20, 2015, at 7:21 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:

Let me ask, is this low power mode availible on the ipad and ipod touch? 
The reason I ask, I don't find it on my 5th generation ipod touch 
running ios 9.


-Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 2:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Power saving mode

Apple is calling this "Low Power Mode" and hence I assume Apple has 
meant for this to be used once you get your 20% low battery warning and 
you want to get the most out of your remaining battery life.
When the low battery warning appears, the option to turn on low power 
mode is on the screen.
You can, however, manually enable it very quickly and easily by telling 
SIRI "Turn on Power Saving Mode".
This will display the "Low Power Mode" explanation screen and you can at 
that point tap cancel to not turn it on or tap continue and low power 
mode will be turned on.
OK, so I now just tried this again and this time it just turned it on 
without showing me that screen, but either way, you can turn it on and 
off with SIRI. I do agree, though, that this would be not a bad 
additional option to have in control centre.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Traci Duncan

Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 12:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Power saving mode

Where is a good place to suggest things to Apple?

I want to know, why in the world did they not put this power saving 
option in control center?  That would make it easily accessible to 
toggle on/off.


Would this be an appropriate thing to do via feedback assistant for 
public beta?


Thanks,
Traci

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RE: Power saving mode

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Isometimes get this on my iPhone, too, try to ask SIRI to "Turn on battery 
saving mode" that usually seems to work better for me than asking to "Turn of 
low power mode". SIRI is supposed to understand natural language, but I find it 
unfortunate that in the last year or two you really have to be very specific in 
how you phrase your questions or commands.
So far I also find that SIRI seems to be more stupid rather than more 
intelligent when I am asking her to dial contacts who actually are Contacts on 
my phone, she sometimes gets the most basic names wrong. 


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 6:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Power saving mode

Here is what I get on my 5th generation ipod touch when I ask Siri to turn it 
on.
Sorry, but I can’t change Low Power Mode on your iPod.

-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 4:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Power saving mode

You could always try to turn it on by asking SIRI to do it on your iPod Touch. 
It does work on the iPhone.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Power saving mode

Well, this is interesting.
After reading the article that was posted, I went into settings battery on 
my iPhone 5s, and sure enough, at the top was a setting for low power mode 
that can be manually enabled.
I then went to my iPod Touch 6, and look in the battery settings and there 
is no power mode setting.
But, like I said, it seems to do it automatically when it gets down to 20%.
Time will tell if that is a good thing or not on the touch. But, since it 
cuts performance, I'm glad it is a setting on the phone.
Richard


> On Sep 20, 2015, at 8:14 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
>
> Not on my 5th generation ipod touch.
>
> -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Shockley
> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:11 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Power saving mode
>
> Hi,
> It's in Settings/Battery.
> Hope this helps,
> Jeffrey
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 10:46 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
>>
>> I'll see if I get that option when I get the 20% battery warning.
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Richard Turner
>> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:33 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Power saving mode
>>
>>
>> I didn't find it as a setting. When my iPod touch 6th generation gave me 
>> the 20% battery warning it annouced low power mode and there was an OK 
>> button I think. It happened quickly.
>> When I plugged it in and charged it up to 100% and unplugged it, it 
>> announced that low power mode was turned off and it was sufficiently 
>> charged or something like that.
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 7:21 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
>>>
>>> Let me ask, is this low power mode availible on the ipad and ipod touch? 
>>> The reason I ask, I don't find it on my 5th generation ipod touch 
>>> running ios 9.
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 2:41 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Power saving mode
>>>
>>> Apple is calling this "Low Power Mode" and hence I assume Apple has 
>>> meant for this to be used once you get your 20% low battery warning and 
>>> you want to get the most out of your remaining battery life.
>>> When the low battery warning appears, the option to turn on low power 
>>> mode is on the screen.
>>> You can, however, manually enable it very quickly and easily by telling 
>>> SIRI "Turn on Power Saving Mode".
>>> This will display the "Low Power Mode" explanation screen and you can at 
>>> that point tap cancel to not turn it on or tap continue and low power 
>>> mode will be turned on.
>>> OK, so I now just tried this again and this time it just turned it on 
>>> without showing me that screen, but either way, you can turn it on and 
>>> off with SIRI. I do agree, though, that this would be not a bad 
>>> additional option to have in control centre.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Traci Duncan
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 12:39 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Power saving mode
>>>
>>> Where is a good place to suggest things to Apple?
>>>
>>> I want to know, why in the world did they not put this power saving 
>>> option in control center?  That would make it easily accessible to 
>>> toggle on/off.
>>>
>>> Would this be an appropriate thing to do via feedback assistant for 
>>> public beta?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Traci
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RE: hey Siri using power

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Iknowbecause they said so during the keynote.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sherrie
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 6:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: hey Siri using power

I am also planning to get the 6S but how do you know that the Hey Siri will 
work with earphones or blue tooth headsets? I don't know if these items have 
the mic always engaged.
Just wondering. Hope you are right.
Sherrie Gosling


-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: hey siri using power

Hi Don,

As Christopher pointed out, if the phone is constantly on alert to listen to 
Hey SIRI, it puts a lot of drain on the battery. Aple has apparently solved 
this problem with the new 6S and 6S Plus hardware where Hey SIRI is available 
all the time. I actually really look forward to that and it is one feature 
which made me decide to upgrade my 5S to a 6S because I do live in northern BC 
where it can get pretty cold in the winter and if I can wear a wired or 
bluetooth headset and just say "Hey SIRI" to wake up SIRI while I am out and 
about, then that is definitely a good thing when my iPhone is under my coat and 
I am wearing gloves.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: hey siri using power

It's because it's such a power intensive feature. It would put a lot of drain 
on your battery. Here's a Q that talks about this 
https://www.quora.com/Why-does-the-new-feature-hey-Siri-in-iOS-8-work-only-when-charging

On 09/20/2015 01:03 AM, don bishop wrote:
> Does anyone know why you need to beusing according power to get "hey siri" 
> to work?
>
> Thanks,
> Don
>
>

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Re: Siri voice for voice over

[Mary Otten]

The Siri voices are available on my old for S. So I think they should be 
available on the five as well.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 21, 2015, at 6:26 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> If it could they would be available if you to to Settings > Accessibility > 
> Voiceover > Speech > Default Dialect. If they are not there then like Alex 
> the SIRI voices are most likely only available on 64 Bit devices which the 
> iPhone 5 and 5C are not. The oldest device where this would be available 
> would be the 5S, also the 6 and 6 Plus and, of course, the new 6S and 6S Plus 
> which are available this Friday.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Andrew Lamanche
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 5:57 AM
> To: VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Siri voice for voice over
> 
> Hi Shawn,
> 
> I have upgraded to iOS9 on iphone 5C.  Does this also make it possible to use 
> siri voice as the default voice for VoiceOver?  I've looked under speech in 
> accessibility in settings and also under siri but I can't see an option to do 
> this.  Maybe iphone 5C is not capable to utilise siri voice as VoiceOver 
> voice.  
> 
> Andrew
>> On 21 Sep 2015, at 01:40, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>> 
>> Did you configure the Siri voices to work with your default dialect or did 
>> you use a secondary language for it? Also, check if you downloaded them 
>> through the speech setting by itself in accessibility. I saw someone did 
>> that and wondered why it wasn't working for them but then they realized that 
>> they downloaded it in the wrong place so it wasn't showing up in Voiceover.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
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>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 6:46 PM, DJ  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I can't get the siri voices to work for VO on my 5.  It let's me select
>>> them, but even after they download they still won't talk.  It still uses
>>> Samantha voice.  Oh well.
>>> 
>>> DJ 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Mary Otten
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 9:25 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Siri voice for voice over
>>> 
>>> I first upgraded my for S. And I tried both Siri voices and was very
>>> unhappy, because of the really long pauses between sentences and lines. But
>>> just recently, I bit the bullet and upgraded my 5S, which will soon be
>>> replaced with a 6S, whenever T-Mobile gets them in ships one out to me.
>>> Since my favorite female voice is not available for reading Kindle books on
>>> the iPhone, and since they have screwed it up on the android version of
>>> Kendall, where you get unnatural pauses between lines with that same voice,
>>> Kendra, I tried the Siri female voice. And I think I'm going to really try
>>> to live with it. It is certainly better than Samantha. So for those of you
>>> who don't care for Samantha, and have something faster than the four ss,
>>> give it a try.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Siri voice for voice over

[John J Jacques]

Hi all, they are deffinatly available for the 4 s and up, as I just added
them to my girlfriends 4 s!

Have a good one:
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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: VoiceOver No Longer Announcing Number of Messages in the Native iOS 9 Mail App

[John Diakogeorgiou]

It will probably be a couple of months. I won't comment on the other bug  

John Diakogeorgiou

> On Sep 20, 2015, at 11:10 PM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> When will the beta come out? Also... I hope the call bug and the bug where vo 
> crashes after sending email is fixed!!! Sorry beta police!!! Call it 
> updater's remorse!!! lol 
> 
> Jenifer Barr
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 8:53 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I can't say because the beta police may come after me.
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Donna  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What did you do to fix the bug I have restored all settings several 
>>> times & did a hard reboot also. Still have the problem! Not that it's a 
>>> deal breaker for me. 
>>> 
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On Sep 20, 2015, at 7:45 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
 
 Yes me too!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of John Diakogeorgiou
 Sent: 20 September 2015 19:02
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: A CALL TO ACTION: VoiceOver No Longer Announcing Number of 
 Messages in the Native iOS 9 Mail App
 
 It's fixed for me..
 
 John Diakogeorgiou
 
> On Sep 20, 2015, at 12:32 PM, Donna  wrote:
> 
> No it hasn't been fixed in 9.1! Unless one keeps resetting network 
> settings or resetting all settings. 
> 
> Donna
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 8:11 AM, John Diakogeorgiou  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Here go the apple police again!!! If some one tells you that Apple has 
>> fixed a bug then by not bugging themb we are letting them better utilize 
>> their time. They don't have to waste time looking at problems which they 
>> have already resolved. I'll be muting this now.
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 1:01 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I hope you realize that you just violated NDA by saying that.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook
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>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>>> 
 On Sep 19, 2015, at 11:36 AM, Wil James  wrote:
 
 There is good news on the horizon. That issue is fixed and I OS 9.1.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Sep 19, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I think it's great if people write in about this. FYI, I reported it 
> during the beta cycle and was told it was a duplicate bug report, so 
> they do know about it, but having more people say it's important to 
> get it fixed should help.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi. I'll definitely do that, as that's an issue that's really 
>> annoying me at the moment. We should write to 
>> 
>> accessibil...@apple.com
>> 
>> Right?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 3:48 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> You may have noticed that in the currently released version of the 
>>> native
>>> iOS 9 Mail app, VoiceOver no longer announces the actual number of 
>>> messages
>>> in a collapsed message thread but, instead, merely says, "Multiple 
>>> messages
>>> in thread."  
>>> 
>>> If, like me, you would like to once again hear the specific number 
>>> of
>>> messages in a collapsed message thread, please join me in 
>>> submitting a
>>> feedback request to Apple.
>>> 
>>> The following is a feedback request I just submitted to Apple.  
>>> Feel free to
>>> use any or all of it in your submissions.
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> [Begin Feedback]
>>> 
>>> TITLE:
>>> Request to Have VoiceOver Once Again Announce the Number of 
>>> Messages in a
>>> collapsed Email Message Thread
>>> 
>>> DESCRIPTION:
>>> In iOS 8.x and earlier, VoiceOver would announce the actual number 
>>> of
>>> messages in a collapsed email message thread.  In the currently 
>>> released
>>> version of iOS 9.0, VoiceOver, instead of announcing the number of 
>>> messages
>>> in the thread, merely says, 

RE: Voiceover keyboard and Braille display commands

[Richard Turner]

I just went to a link in the iOS 9 iPHone manual which I down loaded in iBooks 
and it had a list dated February 2015.  I think there may be more commands than 
are in this list but here you go:
Common braille commands for VoiceOver navigation using iPhone, iPad, and iPod 
touch
When using a braille display with VoiceOver in iOS, your braille display may 
support the following commands to help with navigation.
Braille command (chord) VoiceOver action
Dot 1 + Space bar Move to previous item
Dot 4 + Space bar Move to next item
Dot 3 + Space bar Move to previous item using rotor setting
Dot 6 + Space bar Move to next item using rotor setting
Dot 2 + Dot 3 + Space bar Select previous rotor setting
Dot 5 + Dot 6 + Space bar Select next rotor setting
Dot 1 + Dot 2 + Dot 3 + Space bar Move to the first element
Dot 4 + Dot 5 + Dot 6 + Space bar Move to the last element
Dot 1 + Dot 2 + Dot 3 + Dot 5 + Space bar Read page starting at selected item
Dot 2 + Dot 4 + Dot 5 + Dot 6 + Space bar Read page starting at the top
Dot 1 + Dot 2 + Dot 5 + Space bar Activates the Home button
Dot 2 + Dot 3 + Dot 4 + Space bar Goes to the status bar
Dot 3 + Dot 4 + Dot 5 + Space bar Activates the Volume Up button
Dot 1 + Dot 2 + Dot 6 + Space bar Activates the Volume Down button
Dot 1 + Dot 2 + Space bar Activates the Back button if present
Dot 1 + Dot 4 + Dot 6 + Space bar Activates the Eject key
Dot 7 + Space bar Activates the Delete key
Dot 1 + Dot 4 + Dot 5 + Space bar Activates the Delete key
Dot 8 + Space bar Activates the Return key
Dot 1 + Dot 5 + Space bar Activates the Return key
Dot 2 + Dot 3 + Dot 4 + Dot 5 + Space bar Activates the Tab key
Dot 1 + Dot 2 + Dot 3 + Dot 4 + Dot 5 + Dot 6 + Space bar Toggle Screen Curtain 
on and off
Dot 1 + Dot 2 + Dot 3 + Dote 4 + Space bar Pause or continue speech
Dot 1 + Dot 3 + Dot 4 + Space bar Toggle speech on and off
Dot 3 + Dot 4 + Space bar Speak page number or rows being displayed
Dot 3 + Dot 4 + Dot 5 + Dot 6 + Space bar Scroll up one page
Dot 1 + Dot 4 + Dot 5 + Dot 6 + Space bar Scroll down one page
Dot 2 + Dot 4 + Dot 6 + Space bar Scroll left one page
Dot 1 + Dot 3 + Dot 5 + Space bar Scroll right one page
Dot 2 + Dot 3 + Dot 5 + Space bar Deselect text
Dot 2 + Dot 5 + Dot 6 + Space bar Select text
Dot 2 + Dot 3 + Dot 5 + Dot 6 + Space bar Select all
Dot 1 + Dot 3 + Dot 4 + Dot 6 + Space bar Cut
Dot 1 + Dot 4 + Space bar Copy
Dot 1 + Dot 2 + Dot 3 + Dot 6 + Space bar Paste
Dot 1 + Dot 3 + Dot 5 + Dot 6 + Space bar Undo typing
Dot 2 + Dot 3 + Dot 4 + Dot 6 + Space bar Redo typing
Dot 2 + Space bar Pan braille to the left
Dot 5 + Space bar Pan braille to the right
Dot 4 + Dot 6 + Space bar Goes to Notification Center
Dot 2 + Dot 5 + Space bar Goes to Control Center
Dot 1 + Dot 3 + Dot 4 + Dot 5 + Space bar Toggle announcement history
Dot 1 + Dot 2 + Dot 4 + Dot 5 + Space bar Switch between contracted and 
uncontracted braille
Dot 1 + Dot 7 + Space bar Move to previous container (iPad only)
Dot 4 + Dot 7 + Space bar Move to next container (iPad only)

To ensure that your braille display is using the correct table, please make 
sure that you have the most recent version of iOS installed.
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Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 5:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voiceover keyboard and Braille display commands

I don't know if this list has been updated for IOS 9 yet or not, but 
this might be a good starting point for you 
http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/en/iph6c494dc6.html

On 09/21/2015 12:11 AM, denise avant wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I am searching for a link to a list of the IOS 9 keyboard commands with 
> voiceover,  and also a list of Braille display commands. Would anyone have a 
> link for these tools? thanks.
>

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Re: GMA+CMDA VS. GMA?

[Jenifer Barr]

Thanks Chris.  You're right I forgot to post the link.  Sorry.
http://www.iphonehacks.com/download-iphone-ios-firmware
I was trying to figure out which firmware to install.  There are two
versions for the 5s, one for GMA+CDMA phones, and one for just GMA.
Sorry about that.
Jen

On 9/21/15, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> I'm not sure what you're referring to, and I don't see a link in your
> message, but if you're on AT then you don't use CDMA. You use GSM as
> described in this article
> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2407896,00.asp
>
> On 09/21/2015 06:03 AM, Jenifer Barr wrote:
>> Hi all.
>> My model number doesn't match any of the numbers in the link Siegheard
>> provided... and I don't have eyes to read the back of the phone.  I
>> went in to settings/general/about, and found that model number.  So,
>> since I can't find the matching one... how would I know if my phone
>> uses CDMA+GMA or just GMA?  I use At in the us.
>> Thanks if anyone can help.
>> Jen
>>
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RE: Siri voice for voice over

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If it could they would be available if you to to Settings > Accessibility > 
Voiceover > Speech > Default Dialect. If they are not there then like Alex the 
SIRI voices are most likely only available on 64 Bit devices which the iPhone 5 
and 5C are not. The oldest device where this would be available would be the 
5S, also the 6 and 6 Plus and, of course, the new 6S and 6S Plus which are 
available this Friday.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andrew Lamanche
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 5:57 AM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Siri voice for voice over

Hi Shawn,

I have upgraded to iOS9 on iphone 5C.  Does this also make it possible to use 
siri voice as the default voice for VoiceOver?  I've looked under speech in 
accessibility in settings and also under siri but I can't see an option to do 
this.  Maybe iphone 5C is not capable to utilise siri voice as VoiceOver voice. 
 

Andrew
> On 21 Sep 2015, at 01:40, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> Did you configure the Siri voices to work with your default dialect or did 
> you use a secondary language for it? Also, check if you downloaded them 
> through the speech setting by itself in accessibility. I saw someone did that 
> and wondered why it wasn't working for them but then they realized that they 
> downloaded it in the wrong place so it wasn't showing up in Voiceover.
> 
> Shawn
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>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 6:46 PM, DJ  wrote:
>> 
>> I can't get the siri voices to work for VO on my 5.  It let's me select
>> them, but even after they download they still won't talk.  It still uses
>> Samantha voice.  Oh well.
>> 
>> DJ 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 9:25 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Siri voice for voice over
>> 
>> I first upgraded my for S. And I tried both Siri voices and was very
>> unhappy, because of the really long pauses between sentences and lines. But
>> just recently, I bit the bullet and upgraded my 5S, which will soon be
>> replaced with a 6S, whenever T-Mobile gets them in ships one out to me.
>> Since my favorite female voice is not available for reading Kindle books on
>> the iPhone, and since they have screwed it up on the android version of
>> Kendall, where you get unnatural pauses between lines with that same voice,
>> Kendra, I tried the Siri female voice. And I think I'm going to really try
>> to live with it. It is certainly better than Samantha. So for those of you
>> who don't care for Samantha, and have something faster than the four ss,
>> give it a try.
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Taking notes for meeting, Mac or iPad?

[Mary Otten]

Well someone on another list just told me that you cannot turn off the touchpad 
on a MacBook. That is disgusting.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 21, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Rose,
> Try Function F5.  That is how both my Work Del and my home Toshiba now turn 
> off the touch pad.
> I find I often have to turn it off again after rebooting, but at least I can 
> turn it off.
> 
> I hope that works.  I hate touchpads.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rose Combs
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 2:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Taking notes for meeting, Mac or iPad?
> 
> I feel your pain, I am doing a project at church in a few weeks and they 
> asked if I had a laptop, I do, and at home I connect a wireless keyboard.  
> However, if I were to carry it around with me not an option and I am 
> constantly hitting the touch pad on a Lenovo laptop and sending it to who 
> knows where, I hate how far the keyboard is back, makes me lean forward and I 
> keep resting the palm of either hand on the stupid thing,  On the Toshiba my 
> husband had, very old, I could turn that off with function key 9, can't seem 
> to do it on the Lenovo with any key, not even through the control panel, 
> maybe it can be done, but so far not by me.  
> 
> I'd much rather type notes etc. but for now it looks like I will learn the 
> Focus 14 commands which I did not have time for last spring when I bought the 
> device and braille.  I love braille, don't get me wrong, however, in the past 
> nearly 40 years I have typed 8 hours or more a day,  brailed just maybe a 
> couple of times a week or less.  I once was very fast but now am not, 
> especially on tiny keys on a braille display.  Well have to devote time to 
> this instead of other things to make it work for me, I use the Focus 
> minimally thus far as I was working full time in the spring, transitioning to 
> a new company not by my choice, then ill, was terminated and am now retired 
> earlier than I wished to be.  
> 
> Any display users, especially of the Focus are welcome to contact me at 
> roseco...@q.com 
> 
> I read braille perfectly, recognize mistakes easily but, these little keys 
> are going to be my downfall.  I used a Braille note for years, loved it but, 
> probably will need something I can use where others can see what is happening 
> is the reason I was asked about a laptop or I device.  My iPad is wifi only 
> and bought just at the end of its cycle in early September 2013 as a present 
> after I taught my husband how to use one with VO and zoom for him not me.  He 
> bought me a mini after that and just before new announcements were made.  
> First gen so although I use it at home, it isn't going anywhere and his was 
> donated to a friend who spent months on a ventilator unable to talk but very 
> much mentally with it.  I helped set it up so it could talk for him after my 
> husband passed a year ago in the spring.  
> So choice now looks like either hooking the Focus to the laptop via 
> Bluetooth, if I can or using my iPhone which would be less to carry.  
> My Braille note is an mPower, and if no one needed to see what I was doing, 
> and if I could get it to connect to my home network so I could load it easier 
> it would be my choice.  
> 
> I still use it but cannot get it to connect to anything even with a network 
> card these days.  Never truly worked well in that regard anyway.  However, 
> makes it useless as an e-mail client also and probably would not open the 
> documents I will be sent.  
> Long story as to why I did not upgrade it, let's just say HW and I are no 
> longer friendly.  
> 
> Rose Combs
> roseco...@q.com
> A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
> memory!
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 11:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Taking notes for meeting, Mac or iPad?
> 
> I have been asked to substitute as a minutes take her for an upcoming 
> meeting. I used to do this on a PC laptop in MS Word with complete confidence 
> and competence. However, that laptop is long since gone and buried.
> At this point, my choices are to use my eye pad with a Bluetooth keyboard and 
> pray that I don't get bit by the Bluetooth bug in iOS 9, choosing among apps 
> such as voice dream writer or the new notes app. Or I could borrow my 
> husbands 11 inch MacBook air, with which I am not that familiar, and use 
> something like text at it. Neither prospect is exciting. I'm looking for 
> something that is going to be reliable and foolproof. As in me being a fool 
> and screwing up their minutes. What do people think would be the easiest 
> thing to do the most foolproof 

Re: Minor Bugs I have noticed in IoS 9

[Shai]

Hi,
Another minor bug I have noticed here is that when one moves an app
using the touch screen, the app just moved seems to stay in the same
place even though VoiceOver announces that it is moving.  In order to
get the app in the right place with VoiceOver one has to move the app
again and then explore the screen to see that it refreshed itself to
the right place where one wanted it. This worked fine in IOS8 but I am
not sure if there is now a workaround or I am using the right steps at
this point.


On 9/21/15, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> After using IOS 9 for a few days here are a couple of bugs I have noticed
> that I have yet to see mentioned. If anyone has figured out any work around
> please let us know.
>
> 1. Heading Navigation is gone in some apps
> For example if you use grub hub the ability to quickly flick from food
> headings like salads to pizza slices is gone, you have to flick through
> every menu item which is a giant pain as some menus have hundreds of items.
> Also in Newsify there used to be dates for your feeds when viewing folders
> and you could quickly flick from day to day using heading navigation, the
> dates seem to be completely gone and you just have a very long list of
> articles. Since neither grub hub nor Newsify have released an IOS 9 update
> not sure if this is an Apple error or app specific.
>
> 2. VO loses focus in long lists.
>
> For example in Newsify if you have been flicking through articles and you go
> in to read an article when going back to your article list instead of being
> where you have flicked down to you are taken back to the very top of the
> list. I have also noticed this same behavior in Downcast if you are in a
> long list of podcasts and you go to listen to a podcast instead of being
> taken back to where you were in the list you are taken to the top of the
> list. Again not a deal breaker but quite frustrating, and pretty sure this
> is yet another Apple issue.
>
> I knew what I was getting in to when installing IOS 9, and for me it was
> worth it as Siri and dictation did not work half the time for me in IOS 8 ,
> and I thought it was a damaged home button but IOS 9 seems to have fixed
> that issue for me. Not even two factory resets in IOS 8 nor the genius bar
> could fix that issue, so nice that IOS 9 has.
>
> But, the fact that Apple promoted IOS 9 as a big release that was focused on
> quality control, they really did once again drop the ball in a lot of areas
> for VoiceOVer users, and yes, i do realize that VoiceOVer users are a very
> very small percentage of iPhone users, and I guess we are just going to have
> to get used to having serious to minor bugs in all IOS releases.
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RE: Question about passcode and answering phone calls

[Rose Combs]

I have never, ever gotten past the trip message regardless of what I have tried 
in more than 25 times of trying this.  For me, it just isn’t going to happen as 
nothing works and I eventually end up canceling out.  I am not normally 
terribly patient but I’d think trying to do this for more than 20 minutes at a 
time would be enough.  

 

 

 

Rose Combs

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A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 2:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about passcode and answering phone calls

 

Hi Rose, the prompt you are getting is to adjust your grip. Just double-tap the 
Continue button, move the phone about slightly, and then you can finish the 
process. You'll know it's over when the phone says "Touch IS is ready".

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

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http://Mosen.org

 

On 22/09/2015, at 8:21 AM, Rose Combs  wrote:

 

Fingerprint for me has never been a go, have tried it multiple times and I mean 
like about 20 or so in the past year and not once does it work despite 
instructions, I get to a point where it says it shows a picture and I am 
supposed to grab something, never figure out what and so I don't get it to 
happen, and I am alone with no eyes to help, if I ask a family member they just 
tell me if I can't get it to work I don't need it.  See family about once a 
month if that.  
So if it does not work, it won't and for me, the only person I know that it 
does not work for, it won't work.  Just tried again with 9 update, same 
results, absolutely none.  
I probably typed them off with more than 39 years of doing transcription, don't 
laugh, my mother applied for a job once at a school and they could not get 
fingerprint on her she went back four different times before they finally got 
some.  So I suppose the same could be true for me since my cousin says I 
inherited her fingernails.  
For those who have poo-hooed me in the past, don't bother, I  already know you 
think my theory is not possible, don't need to hear it again.  

For me, fingerprint is not happening and I surmise never will.  

Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
dacia.l...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 7:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question about passcode and answering phone calls

Hi,
When I upgraded to I OS 9 yesterday, it made me create a passcode. I chose not 
to do the fingerprint, as that seems more complicated to me. However, now 
anytime I want to do anything, I have to enter the passcode. Does that include 
answering phone calls? I hope not, as that is very annoying, and takes a little 
bit of time to enter the passcode, and by the time you enter it, the call will 
be ended.
Thank you,
Dacia
PS, if I want to disable the passcode, what I go into settings, and touch ID, 
then do something from there?

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RE: Taking notes for meeting, Mac or iPad?

[Rose Combs]

I have a fairly new Perkins as my old one finally stopped working and my late 
husband did not want to send it for repairs so bought another.  Can't believe 
how hard I have to punch the keys on the new one to get letters to show up on 
paper.  Since he passed I can't even find the older one to send for repair, 
besides last time it was cleaned and repaired it never worked quite right 
again.  Still I dislike feeling like I need hammers to write braille.  
The Focus 14 has such small keys that I am even slower than slow when I manage 
to get it where I can actually write with it.  
Considering I have spent my life doing secretarial work, taking minutes, typing 
reports it is driving me crazy now that I am forced into retirement that I 
can't find an easy fast way to do something everyone including me thinks should 
be a snap for me.  
I'd use to mPower if I could get it to connect to anything.  Stupid codes with 
loads of numbers etc. are impossible for me to enter, remember or ever get 
right.  Besides, some of what I need to do is PDF and the mPower does not do 
that either.  It is wonderful for putting books on, writing account numbers and 
such on, but it is a nightmare to connect to anything at all these days.  I am 
not even sure of the network card I have works, last time I tried to connect it 
at the hospital where it had connected in the past it refused to work.  

I don't want a notetaker with a qwerty keyboard, however, since the ones I have 
seen are off a little and for a touch typist that is not nice.  
I truly need regular size keys with a bit of travel to be comfortable typing 
after 35 years or so of computer work.  
 

Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 2:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Taking notes for meeting, Mac or iPad?

I appreciate all the feedback. I just got more info on this little job they 
want me to do, and it may be something I can do. They look like they're using 
some kind of template that they have already formatted in the DOC X format. I 
have never felt particularly comfortable with templates. And I don't think Doc 
X and text edit like each other in that I don't think you can actually type a 
DOC X thing in TextEdit, can you? So they may be looking for another person. I 
used to just take minutes free hand so to speak, with no template. Just format 
it nicely afterwards. Oh well. And Rose, I feel your pain about the braille. I 
love the Perkins Brailer writer. But I am a much better typist than braillist 
these days.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 21, 2015, at 2:21 PM, Rose Combs  wrote:
> 
> I feel your pain, I am doing a project at church in a few weeks and they 
> asked if I had a laptop, I do, and at home I connect a wireless keyboard.  
> However, if I were to carry it around with me not an option and I am 
> constantly hitting the touch pad on a Lenovo laptop and sending it to who 
> knows where, I hate how far the keyboard is back, makes me lean forward and I 
> keep resting the palm of either hand on the stupid thing,  On the Toshiba my 
> husband had, very old, I could turn that off with function key 9, can't seem 
> to do it on the Lenovo with any key, not even through the control panel, 
> maybe it can be done, but so far not by me.  
> 
> I'd much rather type notes etc. but for now it looks like I will learn the 
> Focus 14 commands which I did not have time for last spring when I bought the 
> device and braille.  I love braille, don't get me wrong, however, in the past 
> nearly 40 years I have typed 8 hours or more a day,  brailed just maybe a 
> couple of times a week or less.  I once was very fast but now am not, 
> especially on tiny keys on a braille display.  Well have to devote time to 
> this instead of other things to make it work for me, I use the Focus 
> minimally thus far as I was working full time in the spring, transitioning to 
> a new company not by my choice, then ill, was terminated and am now retired 
> earlier than I wished to be.  
> 
> Any display users, especially of the Focus are welcome to contact me at 
> roseco...@q.com 
> 
> I read braille perfectly, recognize mistakes easily but, these little keys 
> are going to be my downfall.  I used a Braille note for years, loved it but, 
> probably will need something I can use where others can see what is happening 
> is the reason I was asked about a laptop or I device.  My iPad is wifi only 
> and bought just at the end of its cycle in early September 2013 as a present 
> after I taught my husband how to use one with VO and zoom for him not me.  He 
> bought me a mini after that and just before new announcements were made.  
> First gen so although I use it at home, it isn't going anywhere and his was 
> donated to a friend 

Re: Two small features in iOS 9 that I really I'm going to love

[Christopher Chaltain]

I don't have a phone running IOS 8 where I can test this any more, but 
I'm pretty sure I used to select text from things like web pages in 
Safari and paste it into LinkedIn updates. You'd have to use the pinch 
gesture first to highlight some text and then the copy option would show 
up in the roter.


On 09/21/2015 11:21 AM, Gmail wrote:

In earlier versions of iOS, before nine, though, I don't think you can select 
text outside of an edit field. Correct me if this is wrong.


Thanks,
Ari


On Sep 20, 2015, at 11:02 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
wrote:

Exactly what I do. Or simply select the text then copy it to the clipboard. 
That new feature may be more convenient for others though.

Regards,
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On Sep 20, 2015, at 5:08 PM, Brent Harding  wrote:

In 8, when I have to copy garbage strings, I have VO speak it and then the 3 
finger quad tap, but you often get extra junk with it as well that you don't 
want in there because it literally copies what VO spoke.

- Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 6:49 PM
Subject: Two small features in iOS 9 that I really I'm going to love


Have you ever had to copy out one of those long garbage letter number passwords 
and paste it somewhere else? That alone is going to make the text selection 
feature of iOS 9 a huge timesaver for me. Plus, when I have to reenter my email 
address or password, as is so common, presto, copy text. Paste done.
The other one I'm going to love is that little back button up in the top left 
of the status line. If you get emails with links, which you follow and read the 
article, then want to go back to mail, how cool is it that you can just tap 
that little button and not have to open the app switcher, find the mail app, 
and return. It's a little thing, but I love it.
Mary

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RE: Taking notes for meeting, Mac or iPad?

[Rose Combs]

Well Word would be fine with me but, input into any iDevice without a real 
keyboard with keys of the right size is my huge problem.  Even the Apple 
keyboard I have, Bluetooth, was difficult for me to build up speed on because 
the keys were flat, very little travel.  I spent an inordinate amount of time 
on the 4S making corrections or totally retyping.  One reason I dislike any 
laptop lately is the keyboard is too flat, too far away and the mouse pad is in 
the way of a touch typist who normally can type with speed.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul Hunt
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 2:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Taking notes for meeting, Mac or iPad?

Simply use Microsoft Word for IOS. It's accessible and works well.

> On Sep 21, 2015, at 4:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I appreciate all the feedback. I just got more info on this little job they 
> want me to do, and it may be something I can do. They look like they're using 
> some kind of template that they have already formatted in the DOC X format. I 
> have never felt particularly comfortable with templates. And I don't think 
> Doc X and text edit like each other in that I don't think you can actually 
> type a DOC X thing in TextEdit, can you? So they may be looking for another 
> person. I used to just take minutes free hand so to speak, with no template. 
> Just format it nicely afterwards. Oh well. And Rose, I feel your pain about 
> the braille. I love the Perkins Brailer writer. But I am a much better typist 
> than braillist these days.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 21, 2015, at 2:21 PM, Rose Combs  wrote:
>> 
>> I feel your pain, I am doing a project at church in a few weeks and they 
>> asked if I had a laptop, I do, and at home I connect a wireless keyboard.  
>> However, if I were to carry it around with me not an option and I am 
>> constantly hitting the touch pad on a Lenovo laptop and sending it to who 
>> knows where, I hate how far the keyboard is back, makes me lean forward and 
>> I keep resting the palm of either hand on the stupid thing,  On the Toshiba 
>> my husband had, very old, I could turn that off with function key 9, can't 
>> seem to do it on the Lenovo with any key, not even through the control 
>> panel, maybe it can be done, but so far not by me.  
>> 
>> I'd much rather type notes etc. but for now it looks like I will learn the 
>> Focus 14 commands which I did not have time for last spring when I bought 
>> the device and braille.  I love braille, don't get me wrong, however, in the 
>> past nearly 40 years I have typed 8 hours or more a day,  brailed just maybe 
>> a couple of times a week or less.  I once was very fast but now am not, 
>> especially on tiny keys on a braille display.  Well have to devote time to 
>> this instead of other things to make it work for me, I use the Focus 
>> minimally thus far as I was working full time in the spring, transitioning 
>> to a new company not by my choice, then ill, was terminated and am now 
>> retired earlier than I wished to be.  
>> 
>> Any display users, especially of the Focus are welcome to contact me at 
>> roseco...@q.com 
>> 
>> I read braille perfectly, recognize mistakes easily but, these little keys 
>> are going to be my downfall.  I used a Braille note for years, loved it but, 
>> probably will need something I can use where others can see what is 
>> happening is the reason I was asked about a laptop or I device.  My iPad is 
>> wifi only and bought just at the end of its cycle in early September 2013 as 
>> a present after I taught my husband how to use one with VO and zoom for him 
>> not me.  He bought me a mini after that and just before new announcements 
>> were made.  First gen so although I use it at home, it isn't going anywhere 
>> and his was donated to a friend who spent months on a ventilator unable to 
>> talk but very much mentally with it.  I helped set it up so it could talk 
>> for him after my husband passed a year ago in the spring.  
>> So choice now looks like either hooking the Focus to the laptop via 
>> Bluetooth, if I can or using my iPhone which would be less to carry.  
>> My Braille note is an mPower, and if no one needed to see what I was doing, 
>> and if I could get it to connect to my home network so I could load it 
>> easier it would be my choice.  
>> 
>> I still use it but cannot get it to connect to anything even with a network 
>> card these days.  Never truly worked well in that regard anyway.  However, 
>> makes it useless as an e-mail client also and probably would not open the 
>> documents I will be sent.  
>> Long story as to why I did not upgrade it, let's just say HW and I are no 
>> longer friendly.  
>> 
>> Rose Combs
>> roseco...@q.com
>> 

Re: Cooking with terabytes

[Christopher Chaltain]

I assume this is a joke, but being a geek myself, I feel obligated to 
stand up for geeks everywhere. First, I don't think it's an easy task to 
come up with an algorithm that's going to know how to pronounce an 
abbreviation correctly in every context. I don't think it's a case of a 
geek with delusions of godhood, but rather a smart guy trying to do the 
best he or she can do to make as many people as happy as possible while 
taking up as few of your iPhone's resources as she can.


Second, I think an option in the iPhone where you can turn off 
abbreviation expansion or providing a pronunciation dictionary would be 
a good feature allowing people to customize things a bit more to their 
liking. I know I've fought for the ability in screen readers to turn off 
abbreviation expansion so I can hear exactly what's on the screen with 
as little interpretation as possible.


On 09/21/2015 01:49 PM, 'RobH.' via VIPhone wrote:

This is done by geeks that think they're gods, and so know it all.

I guess this proves they're neither.
- Original Message -
From: "Mary Otten" 
To: ; 
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 4:49 PM
Subject: Cooking with terabytes


Good old Alex has discovered a new cooking term. Did you know that when you're 
making short ribs in the slow cooker, you need to add
one and a half terabytes of balsamic vinegar? When, when, will the folks who 
make the speech synthesizers stop trying to guess what
abbreviations mean and leave it up to us, the human readers with the smarts, to 
figure it out for ourselves?
Mary

Sent from my iPhone



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RE: Taking notes for meeting, Mac or iPad?

[Richard Turner]

Another reason not to have a Macbook, or to have to use a USB keyboard, which 
defeats the idea of having the portability.  Isn't technology fun?

Richard
 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 7:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Taking notes for meeting, Mac or iPad?

Well someone on another list just told me that you cannot turn off the touchpad 
on a MacBook. That is disgusting.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 21, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Rose,
> Try Function F5.  That is how both my Work Del and my home Toshiba now turn 
> off the touch pad.
> I find I often have to turn it off again after rebooting, but at least I can 
> turn it off.
> 
> I hope that works.  I hate touchpads.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rose Combs
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 2:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Taking notes for meeting, Mac or iPad?
> 
> I feel your pain, I am doing a project at church in a few weeks and they 
> asked if I had a laptop, I do, and at home I connect a wireless keyboard.  
> However, if I were to carry it around with me not an option and I am 
> constantly hitting the touch pad on a Lenovo laptop and sending it to who 
> knows where, I hate how far the keyboard is back, makes me lean forward and I 
> keep resting the palm of either hand on the stupid thing,  On the Toshiba my 
> husband had, very old, I could turn that off with function key 9, can't seem 
> to do it on the Lenovo with any key, not even through the control panel, 
> maybe it can be done, but so far not by me.  
> 
> I'd much rather type notes etc. but for now it looks like I will learn the 
> Focus 14 commands which I did not have time for last spring when I bought the 
> device and braille.  I love braille, don't get me wrong, however, in the past 
> nearly 40 years I have typed 8 hours or more a day,  brailed just maybe a 
> couple of times a week or less.  I once was very fast but now am not, 
> especially on tiny keys on a braille display.  Well have to devote time to 
> this instead of other things to make it work for me, I use the Focus 
> minimally thus far as I was working full time in the spring, transitioning to 
> a new company not by my choice, then ill, was terminated and am now retired 
> earlier than I wished to be.  
> 
> Any display users, especially of the Focus are welcome to contact me at 
> roseco...@q.com 
> 
> I read braille perfectly, recognize mistakes easily but, these little keys 
> are going to be my downfall.  I used a Braille note for years, loved it but, 
> probably will need something I can use where others can see what is happening 
> is the reason I was asked about a laptop or I device.  My iPad is wifi only 
> and bought just at the end of its cycle in early September 2013 as a present 
> after I taught my husband how to use one with VO and zoom for him not me.  He 
> bought me a mini after that and just before new announcements were made.  
> First gen so although I use it at home, it isn't going anywhere and his was 
> donated to a friend who spent months on a ventilator unable to talk but very 
> much mentally with it.  I helped set it up so it could talk for him after my 
> husband passed a year ago in the spring.  
> So choice now looks like either hooking the Focus to the laptop via 
> Bluetooth, if I can or using my iPhone which would be less to carry.  
> My Braille note is an mPower, and if no one needed to see what I was doing, 
> and if I could get it to connect to my home network so I could load it easier 
> it would be my choice.  
> 
> I still use it but cannot get it to connect to anything even with a network 
> card these days.  Never truly worked well in that regard anyway.  However, 
> makes it useless as an e-mail client also and probably would not open the 
> documents I will be sent.  
> Long story as to why I did not upgrade it, let's just say HW and I are no 
> longer friendly.  
> 
> Rose Combs
> roseco...@q.com
> A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
> memory!
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 11:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Taking notes for meeting, Mac or iPad?
> 
> I have been asked to substitute as a minutes take her for an upcoming 
> meeting. I used to do this on a PC laptop in MS Word with complete confidence 
> and competence. However, that laptop is long since gone and buried.
> At this point, my choices are to use my eye pad with a Bluetooth keyboard and 
> pray that I don't get bit by the Bluetooth bug in iOS 9, choosing among apps 
> such as voice 

RE: "Voice Braille Reader", New Leverage to Use Braille Files on iOS

[Richard Turner]

I just looked at the description in the app store.

It is $14.99.

 

I don’t plan to buy it since if I have a braille file, I’ll likely read it in 
braille with a braille display.

 

I expect if it does what it claims, a lot of folks will find it useful though.

 

Richard

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
jn nt
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 6:56 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: "Voice Braille Reader", New Leverage to Use Braille Files on iOS

 

Greetings to VIPhone members and friends,


I hope this find you well.  

Excuse us for sudden message.

We are C-FES Co. Ltd, developer of iOS apps and   we have recently released iOS 
app called “Voice Braille Reader” and would like to introduce to VIPhone 
members.

 

“Voice Braille Reader” is optimized with all NABCC compliant BRF and BRL files 
by iOS devices and recite into voices and words on device display.  
Furthermore, we are currently working on optimizing with UEB compliant files 
for future version up as well.

 

We developed and are providing Japanese version of iOS app called BES reader 
from July, 2015 by association with Nippon Lighthouse, Welfare Center for the 
Blind; 

http://www.lighthouse.or.jp/index2e.html

to improve user interface especially made for people who are visually impaired 
and lower-vision.  Of corse, Voice Braille Reader derive its UI and 
manipulation capability entirely from developments with Nippon Lighthouse.

 

We just have released Voice Braille Reader last week and we would like to take 
this opportunity to let it know its usefulness and inovativeness to many people 
of Braille community in the United States.

 

Here is one on review we’ve heard from US user for your reference;

https://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2015/09/17/app-for-reading-grade-2-braille-files-on-ios/


Experience it handiness and easy-manipulations of Voice Braille Reader!

Enjoy listening Braille!

Link to iTunes AppStore:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id1026634631?ls=1 
 =8


All the Best,

Jun Numamoto
Promotion

C-fes Co., Ltd.

 

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"Voice Braille Reader", New Leverage to Use Braille Files on iOS

[jn nt]

Greetings to VIPhone members and friends,

I hope this find you well.  

Excuse us for sudden message.
We are C-FES Co. Ltd, developer of iOS apps and   we have recently released 
iOS app called “Voice Braille Reader” and would like to introduce to 
VIPhone members.

“Voice Braille Reader” is optimized with all NABCC compliant BRF and BRL 
files by iOS devices and recite into voices and words on device display. 
 Furthermore, we are currently working on optimizing with UEB compliant 
files for future version up as well.

We developed and are providing Japanese version of iOS app called BES 
reader from July, 2015 by association with Nippon Lighthouse, Welfare 
Center for the Blind; 
http://www.lighthouse.or.jp/index2e.html
to improve user interface especially made for people who are visually 
impaired and lower-vision.  Of corse, Voice Braille Reader derive its UI 
and manipulation capability entirely from developments with Nippon 
Lighthouse.

We just have released Voice Braille Reader last week and we would like to 
take this opportunity to let it know its usefulness and inovativeness 
to many people of Braille community in the United States.

Here is one on review we’ve heard from US user for your reference;
https://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2015/09/17/app-for-reading-grade-2-brai
lle-files-on-ios/

Experience it handiness and easy-manipulations of Voice Braille Reader!

Enjoy listening Braille!

Link to iTunes AppStore:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id1026634631?ls=1=8

All the Best,

Jun Numamoto
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RE: GMA+CMDA VS. GMA?

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Thanks for this. Maybe I'm just tired after a long day, but I'm not sure how to 
use this page. Where do I put in the Serial Number of my phone?

Thanks. Keith

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ben Mustill-Rose
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 9:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: GMA+CMDA VS. GMA?

Hi,

In case anyone else is struggling with this, entering the last 3 or 4 
characters of your phones serial number on this 
http://www.everymac.com/ultimate-mac-lookup/ page should give you all the 
information you need.
The serial number can be found in settings > general > about.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 9/21/15, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> I assume you got the message I sent you privately, just get back to me 
> directly if you want help with this.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Jenifer Barr
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 6:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: GMA+CMDA VS. GMA?
>
> Ok, thanks Sieghard. I will try and do that before apple pulls 8.4.1.
>
> Jenifer Barr
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 21, 2015, at 9:21 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jennifer,
>>
>> It's GSM not GMA, if you are with AT your phone will be a GSM only 
>> phone, I believe in the States only Verizon and Sprint have the 
>> GSM/CDMA model. It would, however, still be a good idea to be sure 
>> and ask somebody to tell  you the number on the back of your phone, 
>> that model number will most likely be A1533 and it is not available 
>> anywhere in Settings > About.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Jenifer Barr
>> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 5:55 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: GMA+CMDA VS. GMA?
>>
>> Thanks Chris.  You're right I forgot to post the link.  Sorry.
>> http://www.iphonehacks.com/download-iphone-ios-firmware
>> I was trying to figure out which firmware to install.  There are two 
>> versions for the 5s, one for GMA+CDMA phones, and one for just GMA.
>> Sorry about that.
>> Jen
>>
>>> On 9/21/15, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>>> I'm not sure what you're referring to, and I don't see a link in 
>>> your message, but if you're on AT then you don't use CDMA. You use 
>>> GSM as described in this article 
>>> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2407896,00.asp
>>>
 On 09/21/2015 06:03 AM, Jenifer Barr wrote:
 Hi all.
 My model number doesn't match any of the numbers in the link 
 Siegheard provided... and I don't have eyes to read the back of the 
 phone.  I went in to settings/general/about, and found that model 
 number.  So, since I can't find the matching one... how would I 
 know if my phone uses CDMA+GMA or just GMA?  I use At in the us.
 Thanks if anyone can help.
 Jen
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RE: Need to record distance walked with the iPhone

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

Could someone please give me instructions for using walklog.  I can't figure 
out how to start it and don't see a help file anywhere in the app.  It's 
probably something obvious, but I can't figure it out.  Thanks.It sounds like 
an app I'd like to use since Boston and I both like to walk. 

God bless!
Paula and Boston

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of DJ
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 9:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Need to record distance walked with the iPhone

I use Walk Log.  It is very accessible and stays on track.

DJ 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Donna
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 1:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need to record distance walked with the iPhone

Here's an app that I have used in the past. The app is accessible with VO.
And the app does what you want plus more. The drawback, for me anyway, to get 
the full features of the app there is a $6.00 monthly charge or $30.00 yearly 
charge. 

Donna


> On Mar 17, 2015, at 9:32 AM, David Cleveland 
> 
wrote:
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like it to use GPS to tell me how far it is from my starting point to my ending 
point.  My walking path goes in a loop and traditional GPS mapping apps don't 
like this and keep urging me to turn back home.
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Re: Cooking with terabytes

[Jewel]

I had heard much of Alex so when I was wandering through settings/voices last 
night and came upon the option to invite him into my humble iPhone, I did so!  
To say that I was, distinctly underwhelmed would not be overstating the case!  
I want to give him the "bum's rush", but now that he has his boots under the 
table, he doesn't seem to be inclined to leave without a struggle.

 Jewel


From: Jonathan Mosen 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 4:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Cooking with terabytes


Indeed, my wife was reading a book the other day, in which one of the 
characters ended up dying of terabytes. 
To follow all the political excitement in Australia last week, I was listening 
to a station in Sydney called 2 G B, which default Daniel, my voice of choice, 
called 2 Gigabytes.

I also find Alex spells out a lot of things, such as email addresses and 
Twitter IDs. It also seems to mispronounce more than most voices, so I give 
Alex a miss.

Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org


  On 22/09/2015, at 3:49 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:


  Good old Alex has discovered a new cooking term. Did you know that when 
you're making short ribs in the slow cooker, you need to add one and a half 
terabytes of balsamic vinegar? When, when, will the folks who make the speech 
synthesizers stop trying to guess what abbreviations mean and leave it up to 
us, the human readers with the smarts, to figure it out for ourselves?
  Mary

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RE: Explore by touch focus issue fixed in IOS 9

[Richard Turner]

I found the same thing.  Finally, delete is really delete.
It also used to often skip the delete button if you were flicking right, it 
would go Mark message, Move, Reply, Compose and only when you went back to the 
left did you hear the delete button.

Nice to have a little annoyance like that gone.

Richard


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Explore by touch focus issue fixed in IOS 9

An annoying little bug I had throughout IOS 8 appears to have been fixed 
in IOS 9. I'm talking about the bug where I'd find a button by exploring 
the screen but double tapping would activate an adjacent button. For 
example, I'd go to delete a message in the Mail app by touching the 
screen right above the home button, where the delete button is located. 
Even though VoiceOver would say Delete, a double tap would pull up the 
reply dialog more often than not. This is fixed in IOS 9, so I have to 
retrain my muscles not to touch the screen above the home button and 
then immediately flick left and then right to make sure I"m on the 
delete button before double tapping.

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Re: Trouble adjusting VO speaking rate on AppleWatch after update

[Alex Hall]

Have you tried the pass-through on the speech rate slider? Double tap and hold 
on the slider, then slowly move your finger left or right--left is slower, 
right is faster. It's not perfect, but it should work pretty well. Note that 
I'm not using the Watch app as I lack a Watch, but this gesture is standard for 
other sliders, so there's no reason it shouldn't work here.
> On Sep 21, 2015, at 19:56, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
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> Hi,
> 
> Updated to Watch os2 without apparent problem. After, VO speaking rate seemed 
> slower, but Applewatch app indicates 50%.
> 
> Tried to flick up or down in AppleWatch app on the iPhone, but can't seem to 
> make any progress. Any hints?
> 
> Thanks in advance, Keith
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Explore by touch focus issue fixed in IOS 9

[Christopher Chaltain]

An annoying little bug I had throughout IOS 8 appears to have been fixed 
in IOS 9. I'm talking about the bug where I'd find a button by exploring 
the screen but double tapping would activate an adjacent button. For 
example, I'd go to delete a message in the Mail app by touching the 
screen right above the home button, where the delete button is located. 
Even though VoiceOver would say Delete, a double tap would pull up the 
reply dialog more often than not. This is fixed in IOS 9, so I have to 
retrain my muscles not to touch the screen above the home button and 
then immediately flick left and then right to make sure I"m on the 
delete button before double tapping.


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Re: Two small features in iOS 9 that I really I'm going to love

[Mary Otten]

Yes, if you could do that crazy pinch gesture with reliability, which I never 
could, you could copy stuff off of webpages. This is way easier in my opinion.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 21, 2015, at 6:04 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> I don't have a phone running IOS 8 where I can test this any more, but I'm 
> pretty sure I used to select text from things like web pages in Safari and 
> paste it into LinkedIn updates. You'd have to use the pinch gesture first to 
> highlight some text and then the copy option would show up in the roter.
> 
>> On 09/21/2015 11:21 AM, Gmail wrote:
>> In earlier versions of iOS, before nine, though, I don't think you can 
>> select text outside of an edit field. Correct me if this is wrong.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 11:02 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Exactly what I do. Or simply select the text then copy it to the clipboard. 
>>> That new feature may be more convenient for others though.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Feliciano
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 On Sep 20, 2015, at 5:08 PM, Brent Harding  wrote:
 
 In 8, when I have to copy garbage strings, I have VO speak it and then the 
 3 finger quad tap, but you often get extra junk with it as well that you 
 don't want in there because it literally copies what VO spoke.
 
 - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
 To: 
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 6:49 PM
 Subject: Two small features in iOS 9 that I really I'm going to love
 
 
 Have you ever had to copy out one of those long garbage letter number 
 passwords and paste it somewhere else? That alone is going to make the 
 text selection feature of iOS 9 a huge timesaver for me. Plus, when I have 
 to reenter my email address or password, as is so common, presto, copy 
 text. Paste done.
 The other one I'm going to love is that little back button up in the top 
 left of the status line. If you get emails with links, which you follow 
 and read the article, then want to go back to mail, how cool is it that 
 you can just tap that little button and not have to open the app switcher, 
 find the mail app, and return. It's a little thing, but I love it.
 Mary
 
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Re: Cooking with terabytes

[Mary Otten]

Well, having started the thread with that little slam on Mr. Alex, I think I 
have to defend him. Perhaps because I've used them on the Mac for several years 
now I really like Alex. I feel he is one of the more natural reading voices 
around, probably because he breeds, usually in the right place. I am 
underwhelmed with most of the voices that Apple provides. My favorites are 
actually from VoiceDream, but since I can't use those with voiceover, I use 
Alex. And I'm starting to use the female Siri voice enhanced for reading some 
novels, again because I have Kindle books and iBooks that I can't use my voice 
dream readers on.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 21, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Jewel  wrote:
> 
> I had heard much of Alex so when I was wandering through settings/voices last 
> night and came upon the option to invite him into my humble iPhone, I did so! 
> To say that I was, distinctly underwhelmed would not be overstating the case! 
>  I want to give him the "bum's rush", but now that he has his boots under the 
> table, he doesn't seem to be inclined to leave without a struggle.
>  
>  Jewel
> 
> From: Jonathan Mosen
> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 4:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Cooking with terabytes
> 
> Indeed, my wife was reading a book the other day, in which one of the 
> characters ended up dying of terabytes.
> To follow all the political excitement in Australia last week, I was 
> listening to a station in Sydney called 2 G B, which default Daniel, my voice 
> of choice, called 2 Gigabytes.
> I also find Alex spells out a lot of things, such as email addresses and 
> Twitter IDs. It also seems to mispronounce more than most voices, so I give 
> Alex a miss.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
> 
>> On 22/09/2015, at 3:49 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Good old Alex has discovered a new cooking term. Did you know that when 
>> you're making short ribs in the slow cooker, you need to add one and a half 
>> terabytes of balsamic vinegar? When, when, will the folks who make the 
>> speech synthesizers stop trying to guess what abbreviations mean and leave 
>> it up to us, the human readers with the smarts, to figure it out for 
>> ourselves?
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Cooking with terabytes

[Rose Combs]

I’d like Alex back but he seems to be off playing with something, he refuses to 
come back.  

 

 

Rose Combs

  roseco...@q.com

A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jewel
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 5:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Cooking with terabytes

 

I had heard much of Alex so when I was wandering through settings/voices last 
night and came upon the option to invite him into my humble iPhone, I did so!  

To say that I was, distinctly underwhelmed would not be overstating the case!  
I want to give him the "bum's rush", but now that he has his boots under the 
table, he doesn't seem to be inclined to leave without a struggle.

 

 Jewel

 

From: Jonathan Mosen   

Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 4:03 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Cooking with terabytes

 

Indeed, my wife was reading a book the other day, in which one of the 
characters ended up dying of terabytes. 

To follow all the political excitement in Australia last week, I was listening 
to a station in Sydney called 2 G B, which default Daniel, my voice of choice, 
called 2 Gigabytes.

I also find Alex spells out a lot of things, such as email addresses and 
Twitter IDs. It also seems to mispronounce more than most voices, so I give 
Alex a miss.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org

 

On 22/09/2015, at 3:49 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:

 

Good old Alex has discovered a new cooking term. Did you know that when you're 
making short ribs in the slow cooker, you need to add one and a half terabytes 
of balsamic vinegar? When, when, will the folks who make the speech 
synthesizers stop trying to guess what abbreviations mean and leave it up to 
us, the human readers with the smarts, to figure it out for ourselves?
Mary

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Re: Taking notes for meeting, Mac or iPad?

[Paul Hunt]

Simply use Microsoft Word for IOS. It's accessible and works well.

> On Sep 21, 2015, at 4:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I appreciate all the feedback. I just got more info on this little job they 
> want me to do, and it may be something I can do. They look like they're using 
> some kind of template that they have already formatted in the DOC X format. I 
> have never felt particularly comfortable with templates. And I don't think 
> Doc X and text edit like each other in that I don't think you can actually 
> type a DOC X thing in TextEdit, can you? So they may be looking for another 
> person. I used to just take minutes free hand so to speak, with no template. 
> Just format it nicely afterwards. Oh well. And Rose, I feel your pain about 
> the braille. I love the Perkins Brailer writer. But I am a much better typist 
> than braillist these days.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 21, 2015, at 2:21 PM, Rose Combs  wrote:
>> 
>> I feel your pain, I am doing a project at church in a few weeks and they 
>> asked if I had a laptop, I do, and at home I connect a wireless keyboard.  
>> However, if I were to carry it around with me not an option and I am 
>> constantly hitting the touch pad on a Lenovo laptop and sending it to who 
>> knows where, I hate how far the keyboard is back, makes me lean forward and 
>> I keep resting the palm of either hand on the stupid thing,  On the Toshiba 
>> my husband had, very old, I could turn that off with function key 9, can't 
>> seem to do it on the Lenovo with any key, not even through the control 
>> panel, maybe it can be done, but so far not by me.  
>> 
>> I'd much rather type notes etc. but for now it looks like I will learn the 
>> Focus 14 commands which I did not have time for last spring when I bought 
>> the device and braille.  I love braille, don't get me wrong, however, in the 
>> past nearly 40 years I have typed 8 hours or more a day,  brailed just maybe 
>> a couple of times a week or less.  I once was very fast but now am not, 
>> especially on tiny keys on a braille display.  Well have to devote time to 
>> this instead of other things to make it work for me, I use the Focus 
>> minimally thus far as I was working full time in the spring, transitioning 
>> to a new company not by my choice, then ill, was terminated and am now 
>> retired earlier than I wished to be.  
>> 
>> Any display users, especially of the Focus are welcome to contact me at 
>> roseco...@q.com 
>> 
>> I read braille perfectly, recognize mistakes easily but, these little keys 
>> are going to be my downfall.  I used a Braille note for years, loved it but, 
>> probably will need something I can use where others can see what is 
>> happening is the reason I was asked about a laptop or I device.  My iPad is 
>> wifi only and bought just at the end of its cycle in early September 2013 as 
>> a present after I taught my husband how to use one with VO and zoom for him 
>> not me.  He bought me a mini after that and just before new announcements 
>> were made.  First gen so although I use it at home, it isn't going anywhere 
>> and his was donated to a friend who spent months on a ventilator unable to 
>> talk but very much mentally with it.  I helped set it up so it could talk 
>> for him after my husband passed a year ago in the spring.  
>> So choice now looks like either hooking the Focus to the laptop via 
>> Bluetooth, if I can or using my iPhone which would be less to carry.  
>> My Braille note is an mPower, and if no one needed to see what I was doing, 
>> and if I could get it to connect to my home network so I could load it 
>> easier it would be my choice.  
>> 
>> I still use it but cannot get it to connect to anything even with a network 
>> card these days.  Never truly worked well in that regard anyway.  However, 
>> makes it useless as an e-mail client also and probably would not open the 
>> documents I will be sent.  
>> Long story as to why I did not upgrade it, let's just say HW and I are no 
>> longer friendly.  
>> 
>> Rose Combs
>> roseco...@q.com
>> A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
>> memory!
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 11:06 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Taking notes for meeting, Mac or iPad?
>> 
>> I have been asked to substitute as a minutes take her for an upcoming 
>> meeting. I used to do this on a PC laptop in MS Word with complete 
>> confidence and competence. However, that laptop is long since gone and 
>> buried.
>> At this point, my choices are to use my eye pad with a Bluetooth keyboard 
>> and pray that I don't get bit by the Bluetooth bug in iOS 9, choosing among 
>> apps such as voice dream writer or the new notes app. Or I could borrow my 
>> husbands 11 inch MacBook 

Re: "Voice Braille Reader", New Leverage to Use Braille Files on iOS

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Sounds like a good app if it weren't for the steep price tag. $17 canadian is a 
little too high and there are apps out there that are cheaper than that or even 
free that can read books to you in any format.

Shawn
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> On Sep 21, 2015, at 11:20 PM, John J Jacques  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, will this app read .BRF files downloaded with the BARD app?
> 
> Have a good one:
> John
> 
> 
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> Buffett just confirmed his worst fear. Click here for his warning.
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Re: Setting up a new iPhone from scratch

[Mary Otten]

No, I am changing carriers, and I had to turn in the phone as part of the deal 
moving to the new carrier. But I will have the the old phone until I get the 
new phone up and running of course.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 21, 2015, at 7:45 AM, John Diakogeorgiou  
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> Are you planning to keep the old phone active?
> 
>> On 9/21/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> I got the word from T-Mobile that my new iPhone should be here today. Of
>> course I still have my old one. The question I have is how to get from the
>> old one to the new one, including installation and activation of the Sim
>> card, and specifically when that happens. I'm not expecting anybody to tell
>> me how to activate a Sim card, as that would be done with the T-Mobile
>> website. But when do you do that? Is that the first thing you do before you
>> turn on the iPhone? Or do you go through the entire restoration from iTunes,
>> and then once the phone has everything in it, you activate the Sim card?
>> Mary
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Sling tv is the sling app accesible:

[Don Breda]

I am posting for a friend who is not subscribed to the list.

He signed up for a 7 day free trial of sling tv.

slingtv.com which allows you to listen to some tv stations without a 
sling box.


You can listen on your computer or iPhone or android device for a 
monthly fee.


He seems to find that changing channels in the app does not work and the 
oly way to do it is to use the search feature which gets annoying after 
a while.


Anyone confirm this?

Don


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Re: Setting up a new iPhone from scratch

[Mary Otten]

I was kind of hoping that I would be able to take the phone out of the box, and 
connect it to my Mac, where the backup of my old phone is encrypted. Then I can 
restore from that, and then fool with upgrading the Sim card. Or I should say 
programming the Sim card. Or whatever you call it. The store has always done it 
in the past, but I stayed on the same carrier then.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 21, 2015, at 8:27 AM, John Diakogeorgiou  
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> 
> I forgot about that. I've always started by programing the phone
> first. I don't know if that varies from carier to carier though.
> 
>> On 9/21/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> No, I am changing carriers, and I had to turn in the phone as part of the
>> deal moving to the new carrier. But I will have the the old phone until I
>> get the new phone up and running of course.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 21, 2015, at 7:45 AM, John Diakogeorgiou 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Are you planning to keep the old phone active?
>>> 
 On 9/21/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
 I got the word from T-Mobile that my new iPhone should be here today. Of
 course I still have my old one. The question I have is how to get from
 the
 old one to the new one, including installation and activation of the Sim
 card, and specifically when that happens. I'm not expecting anybody to
 tell
 me how to activate a Sim card, as that would be done with the T-Mobile
 website. But when do you do that? Is that the first thing you do before
 you
 turn on the iPhone? Or do you go through the entire restoration from
 iTunes,
 and then once the phone has everything in it, you activate the Sim card?
 Mary
 
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Re: Question about passcode and answering phone calls

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Do you have to set up a password then to get into that area to do Touch ID? 
(Is this a failsafe method so you can get in if/when the Touch ID doesn't 
work)?


Carol P


Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 4:12 PM
Subject: RE: Question about passcode and answering phone calls


I completely agree with John. Go to Settings > Touch Id and Passcode, you 
have to enter your passcode to get into this area. Then find the Add 
Fingerprint button and just follow the instructions. If you set it up right 
it will be much easier to unlock your phone using Touch Id, it is even 
easier and faster than if you don't set up a passcode and just find and 
double tap the u nlock button. If your phone is locked, you still have to 
press the home or power button to wake it up, then find the unlock button 
and double tap it. Once you set up your fingerprint and have a bit of 
practice, you can do it all in one press of the home button. You press it 
down briefly to wake up the phone, let go but lightly continue to rest your 
finger on the button a second or a bit less and your phone will be unlocked. 
Only time it may not work is if your finger is quite wet or if the button 
might have gotten very dirty. Apple says that with the 6S and 6S Plus the 
Touch Id sensor is new and it is supposed to be up to twice as fast. To me 
this is hard to understand because even with my 5S it's almost 
instantaneous.



Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of John Diakogeorgiou

Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 7:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about passcode and answering phone calls

no it doesn't. You may find that using the finger print is easier than the 
pass code each time.


On 9/21/15, dacia.l...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hi,
When I upgraded to I OS 9 yesterday, it made me create a passcode. I
chose not to do the fingerprint, as that seems more complicated to me.
However, now anytime I want to do anything, I have to enter the
passcode. Does that include answering phone calls? I hope not, as that
is very annoying, and takes a little bit of time to enter the
passcode, and by the time you enter it, the call will be ended.
Thank you,
Dacia
PS, if I want to disable the passcode, what I go into settings, and
touch ID, then do something from there?

Sent from my iPhone

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Observation about the voiceover crash after replying to an email

[Mary Otten]

I have noticed a couple of things about this bug. The first one is that, the 
amount of time it seems to take for voiceover to recover has something to do 
with the number of messages in the thread that is being replied to. The more 
messages in the thread, the longer the wait. Or thus it seems to me anyway this 
morning. I wonder if anyone else could confirm that?
The other thing is that this is definitely a voiceover crash. I know that, 
because I was just experiencing the crash when I got my incoming mail sound, 
indicating that the phone was active, even though voiceover was not responding. 
Thus, this seems like a voiceover bug and not a ios9 general  bug.
Mary

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Re: Cooking with terabytes

[Brent Harding]

I remember back when that System Access To Go's speech would say fathoms 
where FM should've been in radio listings. The ones I really found annoying 
were back in school when they used Kurzweil 3000 to try to turn scanned 
books in to audio, hearing web addresses completely pronounced with all 
abbreviations expanded got annoying after awhile, and mangled them often 
enough.


- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Otten" 

To: ; 
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 10:49 AM
Subject: Cooking with terabytes


Good old Alex has discovered a new cooking term. Did you know that when 
you're making short ribs in the slow cooker, you need to add one and a half 
terabytes of balsamic vinegar? When, when, will the folks who make the 
speech synthesizers stop trying to guess what abbreviations mean and leave 
it up to us, the human readers with the smarts, to figure it out for 
ourselves?

Mary

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Re: Cooking with terabytes

[Jonathan Mosen]

Indeed, my wife was reading a book the other day, in which one of the 
characters ended up dying of terabytes.
To follow all the political excitement in Australia last week, I was listening 
to a station in Sydney called 2 G B, which default Daniel, my voice of choice, 
called 2 Gigabytes.
I also find Alex spells out a lot of things, such as email addresses and 
Twitter IDs. It also seems to mispronounce more than most voices, so I give 
Alex a miss.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
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> On 22/09/2015, at 3:49 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Good old Alex has discovered a new cooking term. Did you know that when 
> you're making short ribs in the slow cooker, you need to add one and a half 
> terabytes of balsamic vinegar? When, when, will the folks who make the speech 
> synthesizers stop trying to guess what abbreviations mean and leave it up to 
> us, the human readers with the smarts, to figure it out for ourselves?
> Mary
> 
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RE: GMA+CMDA VS. GMA?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I assume you got the message I sent you privately, just get back to me directly 
if you want help with this.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jenifer Barr
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 6:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: GMA+CMDA VS. GMA?

Ok, thanks Sieghard. I will try and do that before apple pulls 8.4.1. 

Jenifer Barr
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 21, 2015, at 9:21 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jennifer,
> 
> It's GSM not GMA, if you are with AT your phone will be a GSM only phone, I 
> believe in the States only Verizon and Sprint have the GSM/CDMA model. It 
> would, however, still be a good idea to be sure and ask somebody to tell  you 
> the number on the back of your phone, that model number will most likely be 
> A1533 and it is not available anywhere in Settings > About.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jenifer Barr
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 5:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: GMA+CMDA VS. GMA?
> 
> Thanks Chris.  You're right I forgot to post the link.  Sorry.
> http://www.iphonehacks.com/download-iphone-ios-firmware
> I was trying to figure out which firmware to install.  There are two
> versions for the 5s, one for GMA+CDMA phones, and one for just GMA.
> Sorry about that.
> Jen
> 
>> On 9/21/15, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>> I'm not sure what you're referring to, and I don't see a link in your
>> message, but if you're on AT then you don't use CDMA. You use GSM as
>> described in this article
>> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2407896,00.asp
>> 
>>> On 09/21/2015 06:03 AM, Jenifer Barr wrote:
>>> Hi all.
>>> My model number doesn't match any of the numbers in the link Siegheard
>>> provided... and I don't have eyes to read the back of the phone.  I
>>> went in to settings/general/about, and found that model number.  So,
>>> since I can't find the matching one... how would I know if my phone
>>> uses CDMA+GMA or just GMA?  I use At in the us.
>>> Thanks if anyone can help.
>>> Jen
>> 
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Re: GMA+CMDA VS. GMA?

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

Hi,

In case anyone else is struggling with this, entering the last 3 or 4
characters of your phones serial number on this
http://www.everymac.com/ultimate-mac-lookup/ page should give you all
the information you need.
The serial number can be found in settings > general > about.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 9/21/15, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> I assume you got the message I sent you privately, just get back to me
> directly if you want help with this.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Jenifer Barr
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 6:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: GMA+CMDA VS. GMA?
>
> Ok, thanks Sieghard. I will try and do that before apple pulls 8.4.1.
>
> Jenifer Barr
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 21, 2015, at 9:21 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jennifer,
>>
>> It's GSM not GMA, if you are with AT your phone will be a GSM only
>> phone, I believe in the States only Verizon and Sprint have the GSM/CDMA
>> model. It would, however, still be a good idea to be sure and ask somebody
>> to tell  you the number on the back of your phone, that model number will
>> most likely be A1533 and it is not available anywhere in Settings >
>> About.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Jenifer Barr
>> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 5:55 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: GMA+CMDA VS. GMA?
>>
>> Thanks Chris.  You're right I forgot to post the link.  Sorry.
>> http://www.iphonehacks.com/download-iphone-ios-firmware
>> I was trying to figure out which firmware to install.  There are two
>> versions for the 5s, one for GMA+CDMA phones, and one for just GMA.
>> Sorry about that.
>> Jen
>>
>>> On 9/21/15, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>>> I'm not sure what you're referring to, and I don't see a link in your
>>> message, but if you're on AT then you don't use CDMA. You use GSM as
>>> described in this article
>>> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2407896,00.asp
>>>
 On 09/21/2015 06:03 AM, Jenifer Barr wrote:
 Hi all.
 My model number doesn't match any of the numbers in the link Siegheard
 provided... and I don't have eyes to read the back of the phone.  I
 went in to settings/general/about, and found that model number.  So,
 since I can't find the matching one... how would I know if my phone
 uses CDMA+GMA or just GMA?  I use At in the us.
 Thanks if anyone can help.
 Jen
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Re: Question about passcode and answering phone calls

[John Diakogeorgiou]

no it doesn't. You may find that using the finger print is easier than
the pass code each time.

On 9/21/15, dacia.l...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Hi,
> When I upgraded to I OS 9 yesterday, it made me create a passcode. I chose
> not to do the fingerprint, as that seems more complicated to me. However,
> now anytime I want to do anything, I have to enter the passcode. Does that
> include answering phone calls? I hope not, as that is very annoying, and
> takes a little bit of time to enter the passcode, and by the time you enter
> it, the call will be ended.
> Thank you,
> Dacia
> PS, if I want to disable the passcode, what I go into settings, and touch
> ID, then do something from there?
>
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RE: GMA+CMDA VS. GMA?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Ben,

Thanks for the reminder, I bookmarked this site a long time ago and totally 
forgot about it. It's a great way to get important information about your 
device and it would be an easy way for Jennifer to confirm which exact model 
she has. Here is what came up when I entered my 5S serial number:

iPhone 5s (GSM/North America/A1533)
1.3 GHz
Apple A7
Intro. September 10, 2013
Disc. None
Order ME305LL/A
Model A1533 (EMC 2642)
Family iPhone 5s
ID iPhone6,1
RAM 1 GB
VRAM None
Storage 16, 32, 64 GB
Optical None
Complete iPhone 5s (GSM/North America/A1533) Specs - that is a link which takes 
you to the full iPhone specs.

Take care,
Sieghard

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Re: Setting up a new iPhone from scratch

[John Diakogeorgiou]

I forgot about that. I've always started by programing the phone
first. I don't know if that varies from carier to carier though.

On 9/21/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
> No, I am changing carriers, and I had to turn in the phone as part of the
> deal moving to the new carrier. But I will have the the old phone until I
> get the new phone up and running of course.
> Mary
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 21, 2015, at 7:45 AM, John Diakogeorgiou 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Are you planning to keep the old phone active?
>>
>>> On 9/21/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> I got the word from T-Mobile that my new iPhone should be here today. Of
>>> course I still have my old one. The question I have is how to get from
>>> the
>>> old one to the new one, including installation and activation of the Sim
>>> card, and specifically when that happens. I'm not expecting anybody to
>>> tell
>>> me how to activate a Sim card, as that would be done with the T-Mobile
>>> website. But when do you do that? Is that the first thing you do before
>>> you
>>> turn on the iPhone? Or do you go through the entire restoration from
>>> iTunes,
>>> and then once the phone has everything in it, you activate the Sim card?
>>> Mary
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Re: Managing podcasts from down cast

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Tom, you'd need to delete the individual episodes, not the podcasts 
themselves. So double-tap each podcast, review the episodes Downcast has, and 
delete them. You should be able to do this using the actions rotor in VO.
One slightly quicker way would be to set up a playlist containing all of your 
downloaded episodes and delete each episode from there.
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> On 22/09/2015, at 1:59 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
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> I have 2 GB of downloaded podcasts.  I thought I set it up to stream my 
> podcasts.  I did this a while ago and don't remember how to do it.  Is there 
> a way to delete a fair number of podcasts without unsubscribing?  Whenever I 
> try to delete something it wants to know if I'm  sure I want to delete and 
> unsubscribe?  I just want to delete podcasts without unsubscribing.  Thanks 
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Cooking with terabytes

[Mary Otten]

Good old Alex has discovered a new cooking term. Did you know that when you're 
making short ribs in the slow cooker, you need to add one and a half terabytes 
of balsamic vinegar? When, when, will the folks who make the speech 
synthesizers stop trying to guess what abbreviations mean and leave it up to 
us, the human readers with the smarts, to figure it out for ourselves?
Mary

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Re: Question about passcode and answering phone calls

[John Diakogeorgiou]

Yes because if you need to reboot your phone you must enter the
password the first time.

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> Do you have to set up a password then to get into that area to do Touch ID?
>
> (Is this a failsafe method so you can get in if/when the Touch ID doesn't
> work)?
>
> Carol P
>
>
> Carol P
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 4:12 PM
> Subject: RE: Question about passcode and answering phone calls
>
>
> I completely agree with John. Go to Settings > Touch Id and Passcode, you
> have to enter your passcode to get into this area. Then find the Add
> Fingerprint button and just follow the instructions. If you set it up right
>
> it will be much easier to unlock your phone using Touch Id, it is even
> easier and faster than if you don't set up a passcode and just find and
> double tap the u nlock button. If your phone is locked, you still have to
> press the home or power button to wake it up, then find the unlock button
> and double tap it. Once you set up your fingerprint and have a bit of
> practice, you can do it all in one press of the home button. You press it
> down briefly to wake up the phone, let go but lightly continue to rest your
>
> finger on the button a second or a bit less and your phone will be unlocked.
>
> Only time it may not work is if your finger is quite wet or if the button
> might have gotten very dirty. Apple says that with the 6S and 6S Plus the
> Touch Id sensor is new and it is supposed to be up to twice as fast. To me
> this is hard to understand because even with my 5S it's almost
> instantaneous.
>
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of John Diakogeorgiou
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 7:47 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Question about passcode and answering phone calls
>
> no it doesn't. You may find that using the finger print is easier than the
> pass code each time.
>
> On 9/21/15, dacia.l...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> When I upgraded to I OS 9 yesterday, it made me create a passcode. I
>> chose not to do the fingerprint, as that seems more complicated to me.
>> However, now anytime I want to do anything, I have to enter the
>> passcode. Does that include answering phone calls? I hope not, as that
>> is very annoying, and takes a little bit of time to enter the
>> passcode, and by the time you enter it, the call will be ended.
>> Thank you,
>> Dacia
>> PS, if I want to disable the passcode, what I go into settings, and
>> touch ID, then do something from there?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: notifications not reading in IOS 9.

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I have noticed notifications being quite inconsistent in iOS9 with a bevvy of 
apps including messages, news headline apps and Westminster chimes to name a 
few.
Robin

From: Chris Judd 
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 10:49 AM
To: viphone mailing list 
Subject: notifications not reading in IOS 9.

Hey all,

Just updated to IOS 9.  I discovered this when I tried to send myself a text 
message.
I heard my text tone go off, but voice over didn’t read the notification.  I 
had to swipe to read the notification.
I was wondering if anyone else is experiencing this?
That’s all the bugs I can find so far.
Chris
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qr code labels?

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

I am looking for qr coded labels for clothes that are able to be used in the 
washer and dryer.  does anyone have a place where I can purchase these?  I have 
the ID Mate but, the labels just don’t stand out in the wash for more than 2 or 
3 was washings.  Also, I just can’t get digit eyes to work without spending an 
extensive amount of time scanning bar code labels.  I have googled some sites 
but, I don’t know if these companies are okay.  Some say that the labels can be 
washed but in cold water..I use hot most of the time.  Please help with 
suggestions.  Andy
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RE: Siri voice for voice over

[Rose Combs]

Currently I am running Siri female the larger on my phone, not sure if it uses 
Kindle or not but was reading my Bible from Kindle very well.  I was also 
reading an iBook yesterday and with the rate at 55 to 60 I actually could hear 
it better than Alex, even though I think I still prefer Alex.  Figured I'd give 
it a try at least.  

Male Siri although okay for asking questions was not at all easy to listen to 
when reading long passages.  

I probably will get Alex back soon, but figured it was worth a try not to have 
to listen to Samantha who I have never cared for.  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 6:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Siri voice for voice over

I first upgraded my for S. And I tried both Siri voices and was very unhappy, 
because of the really long pauses between sentences and lines. But just 
recently, I bit the bullet and upgraded my 5S, which will soon be replaced with 
a 6S, whenever T-Mobile gets them in ships one out to me.
Since my favorite female voice is not available for reading Kindle books on the 
iPhone, and since they have screwed it up on the android version of Kendall, 
where you get unnatural pauses between lines with that same voice, Kendra, I 
tried the Siri female voice. And I think I'm going to really try to live with 
it. It is certainly better than Samantha. So for those of you who don't care 
for Samantha, and have something faster than the four ss, give it a try.
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Re: Setting up a new iPhone from scratch

[John Diakogeorgiou]

I was talking to Verizon about this earlier. They send their phones
out preprogramed.

On 9/21/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
> I was kind of hoping that I would be able to take the phone out of the box,
> and connect it to my Mac, where the backup of my old phone is encrypted.
> Then I can restore from that, and then fool with upgrading the Sim card. Or
> I should say programming the Sim card. Or whatever you call it. The store
> has always done it in the past, but I stayed on the same carrier then.
> Mary
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 21, 2015, at 8:27 AM, John Diakogeorgiou 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I forgot about that. I've always started by programing the phone
>> first. I don't know if that varies from carier to carier though.
>>
>>> On 9/21/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> No, I am changing carriers, and I had to turn in the phone as part of
>>> the
>>> deal moving to the new carrier. But I will have the the old phone until
>>> I
>>> get the new phone up and running of course.
>>> Mary
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Sep 21, 2015, at 7:45 AM, John Diakogeorgiou
 
 wrote:

 Are you planning to keep the old phone active?

> On 9/21/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
> I got the word from T-Mobile that my new iPhone should be here today.
> Of
> course I still have my old one. The question I have is how to get from
> the
> old one to the new one, including installation and activation of the
> Sim
> card, and specifically when that happens. I'm not expecting anybody to
> tell
> me how to activate a Sim card, as that would be done with the T-Mobile
> website. But when do you do that? Is that the first thing you do
> before
> you
> turn on the iPhone? Or do you go through the entire restoration from
> iTunes,
> and then once the phone has everything in it, you activate the Sim
> card?
> Mary
>
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RE: My apple Bluetooth keyboard works in iOS 9

[Rose Combs]

I am unable to get a Logitech or Apple keyboard to connect to my iPhone 6, 
never have been able to do it for some reason.  Alone, no one to read numbers I 
may need to enter on the phone, have not found them either.  Frustrating as I 
will be taking a class soon where having the ability to type would be most 
helpful.  

Do not understand at all how to braille on an iPhone screen, never have had any 
luck with that.  Just truly need real keys.  

 

 

Rose Combs

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A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rich Ring
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 11:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Rich Ring
Subject: Re: My apple bluetooth keyboard works in iOS 9

 

My Logitech K811 works fine with my iPhone 5S. These bugs are just so strange!

On Sep 20, 2015, at 1:14 PM, Neal Ewers  wrote:

 

Well, after all the excitement about this, I decided to try this on my backup 
iPhone. On the iPhone 5, my apple Bluetooth keyboard works fine, It does not 
even have double letters. I wonder if anyone else is using this same setup and 
what their experience is. I hesitate to update my iPhone 6, but the 5 certainly 
works in many edit fields I have been working in.

 

Neal

 

 

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Minor Bugs I have noticed in IoS 9

[Brian Fischler]

Hey all,

After using IOS 9 for a few days here are a couple of bugs I have noticed that 
I have yet to see mentioned. If anyone has figured out any work around please 
let us know.

1. Heading Navigation is gone in some apps
For example if you use grub hub the ability to quickly flick from food headings 
like salads to pizza slices is gone, you have to flick through every menu item 
which is a giant pain as some menus have hundreds of items. Also in Newsify 
there used to be dates for your feeds when viewing folders and you could 
quickly flick from day to day using heading navigation, the dates seem to be 
completely gone and you just have a very long list of articles. Since neither 
grub hub nor Newsify have released an IOS 9 update not sure if this is an Apple 
error or app specific.

2. VO loses focus in long lists.

For example in Newsify if you have been flicking through articles and you go in 
to read an article when going back to your article list instead of being where 
you have flicked down to you are taken back to the very top of the list. I have 
also noticed this same behavior in Downcast if you are in a long list of 
podcasts and you go to listen to a podcast instead of being taken back to where 
you were in the list you are taken to the top of the list. Again not a deal 
breaker but quite frustrating, and pretty sure this is yet another Apple issue.

I knew what I was getting in to when installing IOS 9, and for me it was worth 
it as Siri and dictation did not work half the time for me in IOS 8 , and I 
thought it was a damaged home button but IOS 9 seems to have fixed that issue 
for me. Not even two factory resets in IOS 8 nor the genius bar could fix that 
issue, so nice that IOS 9 has.

But, the fact that Apple promoted IOS 9 as a big release that was focused on 
quality control, they really did once again drop the ball in a lot of areas for 
VoiceOVer users, and yes, i do realize that VoiceOVer users are a very very 
small percentage of iPhone users, and I guess we are just going to have to get 
used to having serious to minor bugs in all IOS releases.

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Re: WatchOS 2 is here

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Keith. Here's a pretty good review 
. 
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> On 22/09/2015, at 6:10 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Jonathan. Is there an informational site you’d recommend detailing 
> what’s new in WatchOS2?
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
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> Subject: WatchOS 2 is here
>  
> Hi everyone, WatchOS 2 is now available. To install it, you need iOS 9. Then 
> update through General, Software update in the Watch app.
> It makes the Watch a much more useful device. And it'll only get better as 
> the number of native apps increases.
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Re: Observation about the voiceover crash after replying to an email

[John Diakogeorgiou]

you may be right because when I replied to your message where their
was no thread VO didn't crash at all.

On 9/21/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
> I have noticed a couple of things about this bug. The first one is that, the
> amount of time it seems to take for voiceover to recover has something to do
> with the number of messages in the thread that is being replied to. The more
> messages in the thread, the longer the wait. Or thus it seems to me anyway
> this morning. I wonder if anyone else could confirm that?
> The other thing is that this is definitely a voiceover crash. I know that,
> because I was just experiencing the crash when I got my incoming mail sound,
> indicating that the phone was active, even though voiceover was not
> responding. Thus, this seems like a voiceover bug and not a ios9 general
> bug.
> Mary
>
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Re: Cooking with terabytes

[Mary Otten]

I haven't found that Alex is any worse than any of the other voices. Perhaps 
your mileage varies depending on what you read. I did notice that the GM or 
gold master turned into grams. Which I thought was interesting. I'm sure there 
are many of these, and they've been happening for years. I still say the best 
thing is to just leave it alone and let us figure out where the abbreviation 
means according to context. Sighted people do it all the time. Why can't we?
Mary

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> On Sep 21, 2015, at 9:03 AM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> 
> Indeed, my wife was reading a book the other day, in which one of the 
> characters ended up dying of terabytes.
> To follow all the political excitement in Australia last week, I was 
> listening to a station in Sydney called 2 G B, which default Daniel, my voice 
> of choice, called 2 Gigabytes.
> I also find Alex spells out a lot of things, such as email addresses and 
> Twitter IDs. It also seems to mispronounce more than most voices, so I give 
> Alex a miss.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
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> 
>> On 22/09/2015, at 3:49 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Good old Alex has discovered a new cooking term. Did you know that when 
>> you're making short ribs in the slow cooker, you need to add one and a half 
>> terabytes of balsamic vinegar? When, when, will the folks who make the 
>> speech synthesizers stop trying to guess what abbreviations mean and leave 
>> it up to us, the human readers with the smarts, to figure it out for 
>> ourselves?
>> Mary
>> 
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Re: Setting up a new iPhone from scratch

[Mary Otten]

Interesting about Verizon. When I did the deal with T-Mobile last week, or 
maybe it was two weeks ago, I got a Sim card from them. They explained that 
once I got my phone, I had the choice of putting this new one in, or using one 
that should already be in the phone. But I gathered that the one in the phone 
of course would not be programmed. Who knows? I guess I'll find out when I get 
my phone. This may require another trip to the T-Mobile store.
Mary

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> On Sep 21, 2015, at 10:26 AM, John Diakogeorgiou  
> wrote:
> 
> I was talking to Verizon about this earlier. They send their phones
> out preprogramed.
> 
>> On 9/21/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> I was kind of hoping that I would be able to take the phone out of the box,
>> and connect it to my Mac, where the backup of my old phone is encrypted.
>> Then I can restore from that, and then fool with upgrading the Sim card. Or
>> I should say programming the Sim card. Or whatever you call it. The store
>> has always done it in the past, but I stayed on the same carrier then.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 21, 2015, at 8:27 AM, John Diakogeorgiou 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I forgot about that. I've always started by programing the phone
>>> first. I don't know if that varies from carier to carier though.
>>> 
 On 9/21/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
 No, I am changing carriers, and I had to turn in the phone as part of
 the
 deal moving to the new carrier. But I will have the the old phone until
 I
 get the new phone up and running of course.
 Mary
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Sep 21, 2015, at 7:45 AM, John Diakogeorgiou
> 
> wrote:
> 
> Are you planning to keep the old phone active?
> 
>> On 9/21/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> I got the word from T-Mobile that my new iPhone should be here today.
>> Of
>> course I still have my old one. The question I have is how to get from
>> the
>> old one to the new one, including installation and activation of the
>> Sim
>> card, and specifically when that happens. I'm not expecting anybody to
>> tell
>> me how to activate a Sim card, as that would be done with the T-Mobile
>> website. But when do you do that? Is that the first thing you do
>> before
>> you
>> turn on the iPhone? Or do you go through the entire restoration from
>> iTunes,
>> and then once the phone has everything in it, you activate the Sim
>> card?
>> Mary
>> 
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RE: Problem with App store

[rhs]

The app I’ve been trying to update is ITunesU so I don’t think that is it.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problem with App store

 

Think there have been some problems with some apps being removed from Store 
(over here in the UK anyway) because they were struck by a virus.  It's, 
apparently, more of the Chinese ones ...

 

Carol P

 

- Original Message - 

From: r...@q.com   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 5:37 PM

Subject: Problem with App store

 

Hi,

 

I cannot update apps from the App Store.  When in the Updates section of the 
App Store, I double-tap the update button for a particular app.  The button 
then announces “connecting”.  It does not get past that point.  I have closed 
all apps in the app switcher and shut off my phone and get the same result.  
This has been going on for over a week.

 

Please help!

 

Thanks.

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Re: Question about passcode and answering phone calls

[christopher hallsworth]

You can set up the fingerprint then the passcode or vice versa. There doesn't 
seem to be a particular order of presidence in my experience.
> On 21 Sep 2015, at 18:21, John Diakogeorgiou  wrote:
> 
> It's been a while since I did this. I think though you need to have
> the pass code set up before you set up the finger print. Then each
> time you unlock the phone you can use either the pass code or finger
> print reader. Also, like I previously said if you need to reboot the
> phone you must use the pass code instead of the finger print reader.
> The reason I like the finger print reader better is that to turn on
> the phone instead of having to type the characters, all you need do is
> press down once on the home key to turn on the phone then leave your
> finger there till it recognizes it. The only time I've had trouble
> with this is when I've washed my hands and they are damp.
> 
> On 9/21/15, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone
>  wrote:
>> So, the first time being when you're setting up the Touch ID, or each time
>> you reboot, or perhaps once you've locked the screen, or been away for some
>> 
>> time ...?
>> 
>> Sorry, I'm not quite clear.
>> 
>> Carol P
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "John Diakogeorgiou" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 4:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: Question about passcode and answering phone calls
>> 
>> 
>>> Yes because if you need to reboot your phone you must enter the
>>> password the first time.
>>> 
>>> On 9/21/15, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone
>>>  wrote:
 Do you have to set up a password then to get into that area to do Touch
 ID?
 
 (Is this a failsafe method so you can get in if/when the Touch ID
 doesn't
 work)?
 
 Carol P
 
 
 Carol P
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
 To: 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 4:12 PM
 Subject: RE: Question about passcode and answering phone calls
 
 
 I completely agree with John. Go to Settings > Touch Id and Passcode,
 you
 have to enter your passcode to get into this area. Then find the Add
 Fingerprint button and just follow the instructions. If you set it up
 right
 
 it will be much easier to unlock your phone using Touch Id, it is even
 easier and faster than if you don't set up a passcode and just find and
 double tap the u nlock button. If your phone is locked, you still have
 to
 press the home or power button to wake it up, then find the unlock
 button
 and double tap it. Once you set up your fingerprint and have a bit of
 practice, you can do it all in one press of the home button. You press
 it
 down briefly to wake up the phone, let go but lightly continue to rest
 your
 
 finger on the button a second or a bit less and your phone will be
 unlocked.
 
 Only time it may not work is if your finger is quite wet or if the
 button
 might have gotten very dirty. Apple says that with the 6S and 6S Plus
 the
 Touch Id sensor is new and it is supposed to be up to twice as fast. To
 me
 this is hard to understand because even with my 5S it's almost
 instantaneous.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of John Diakogeorgiou
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 7:47 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Question about passcode and answering phone calls
 
 no it doesn't. You may find that using the finger print is easier than
 the
 pass code each time.
 
 On 9/21/15, dacia.l...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Hi,
> When I upgraded to I OS 9 yesterday, it made me create a passcode. I
> chose not to do the fingerprint, as that seems more complicated to me.
> However, now anytime I want to do anything, I have to enter the
> passcode. Does that include answering phone calls? I hope not, as that
> is very annoying, and takes a little bit of time to enter the
> passcode, and by the time you enter it, the call will be ended.
> Thank you,
> Dacia
> PS, if I want to disable the passcode, what I go into settings, and
> touch ID, then do something from there?
> 
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Re: Setting up a new iPhone from scratch

[brenda mueller]

Mary,

In that braille manual, Getting Started with the iPhone and IOS8 
Step by Step Instructions, installing that SIM card is very early 
in the process.  All that happened before that was that VoiceOver 
was turned on.  These were the instructions in that braille 
manual by Anna Dresner about that SIM card.


"If your phone doesn't have a SIM card, you'll now be told 
to insert one and press OK.  The phone will do nothing else until 
you do this.  Many phones come with SIM cards preinstalled, but 
if yours doesn't, you can insert one by locating a small hole on 
the right side of the iPhone and using a small tool that comes in 
the iPhone box to remove the SIM card frame.  Insert the tool and 
press in firmly.  A button will release a frame that will hold 
your SIM card.  The tool has a projection on one side that you 
can use to help remove the frame.  Lay the SIM card in the frame; 
It only fits one way.  Then insert it into your phone, and 
restart the setup process.


Now you're on a screen where you select the phone's primary 
language."


I don't think you'll have to program your SIM card; someone 
probably already did that before he sold the card.


Brenda Mueller






- Original Message -
From: Mary Otten   wrote:


I forgot about that. I've always started by programing the phone
first. I don't know if that varies from carier to carier though.



On 9/21/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
No, I am changing carriers, and I had to turn in the phone as 

part of the
deal moving to the new carrier. But I will have the the old 

phone until I

get the new phone up and running of course.
Mary



Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 21, 2015, at 7:45 AM, John Diakogeorgiou 

 wrote:
I got the word from T-Mobile that my new iPhone should be here 

today. Of
course I still have my old one. The question I have is how to 

get from

the
old one to the new one, including installation and activation of 

the Sim
card, and specifically when that happens. I'm not expecting 

anybody to

tell
me how to activate a Sim card, as that would be done with the 

T-Mobile
website. But when do you do that? Is that the first thing you do 

before

you
turn on the iPhone? Or do you go through the entire restoration 

from

iTunes,
and then once the phone has everything in it, you activate the 

Sim card?

Mary



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Re: Question about passcode and answering phone calls

[christopher hallsworth]

In all cases, when you reboot the phone or you don't unlock it within 48 hours, 
you must enter the passcode.
> On 21 Sep 2015, at 17:57, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> So, the first time being when you're setting up the Touch ID, or each time 
> you reboot, or perhaps once you've locked the screen, or been away for some 
> time ...?
> 
> Sorry, I'm not quite clear.
> 
> Carol P
> 
> - Original Message - From: "John Diakogeorgiou" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 4:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Question about passcode and answering phone calls
> 
> 
>> Yes because if you need to reboot your phone you must enter the
>> password the first time.
>> 
>> On 9/21/15, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone
>>  wrote:
>>> Do you have to set up a password then to get into that area to do Touch ID?
>>> 
>>> (Is this a failsafe method so you can get in if/when the Touch ID doesn't
>>> work)?
>>> 
>>> Carol P
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Carol P
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 4:12 PM
>>> Subject: RE: Question about passcode and answering phone calls
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I completely agree with John. Go to Settings > Touch Id and Passcode, you
>>> have to enter your passcode to get into this area. Then find the Add
>>> Fingerprint button and just follow the instructions. If you set it up right
>>> 
>>> it will be much easier to unlock your phone using Touch Id, it is even
>>> easier and faster than if you don't set up a passcode and just find and
>>> double tap the u nlock button. If your phone is locked, you still have to
>>> press the home or power button to wake it up, then find the unlock button
>>> and double tap it. Once you set up your fingerprint and have a bit of
>>> practice, you can do it all in one press of the home button. You press it
>>> down briefly to wake up the phone, let go but lightly continue to rest your
>>> 
>>> finger on the button a second or a bit less and your phone will be unlocked.
>>> 
>>> Only time it may not work is if your finger is quite wet or if the button
>>> might have gotten very dirty. Apple says that with the 6S and 6S Plus the
>>> Touch Id sensor is new and it is supposed to be up to twice as fast. To me
>>> this is hard to understand because even with my 5S it's almost
>>> instantaneous.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of John Diakogeorgiou
>>> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 7:47 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Question about passcode and answering phone calls
>>> 
>>> no it doesn't. You may find that using the finger print is easier than the
>>> pass code each time.
>>> 
>>> On 9/21/15, dacia.l...@gmail.com  wrote:
 Hi,
 When I upgraded to I OS 9 yesterday, it made me create a passcode. I
 chose not to do the fingerprint, as that seems more complicated to me.
 However, now anytime I want to do anything, I have to enter the
 passcode. Does that include answering phone calls? I hope not, as that
 is very annoying, and takes a little bit of time to enter the
 passcode, and by the time you enter it, the call will be ended.
 Thank you,
 Dacia
 PS, if I want to disable the passcode, what I go into settings, and
 touch ID, then do something from there?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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RE: WatchOS 2 is here

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Thanks, Jonathan. Is there an informational site you’d recommend detailing 
what’s new in WatchOS2?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 12:57 PM
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Subject: WatchOS 2 is here

Hi everyone, WatchOS 2 is now available. To install it, you need iOS 9. Then 
update through General, Software update in the Watch app.
It makes the Watch a much more useful device. And it'll only get better as the 
number of native apps increases.
Jonathan Mosen
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