Re: [WISPA] email issues
No much you can do for NDR backscatter, short of changing their address. I would suggest creating an SPF record for your domain. Frank Muto www.secureemailplus.com - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 10:17 PM Subject: [SPAM][WISPA] email issues I've got a client whose email (mkfa...@kywifi.com) appears to have been hijacked for spamming purposes. I'm not sure what to do about it. Sample email below. Any ideas? Thanks in advance! -RickG *** From: mailer-dae...@yahoo.co.jp To: mkfa...@kywifi.com Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 8:50 PM Subject: Delivery failure Message from yahoo.co.jp. Unable to deliver message to the following address(es). danjiri_girl_san...@yahoo.co.jp: Sorry your message to danjiri_girl_san...@yahoo.co.jp cannot be delivered. This account has been disabled or discontinued [#102]. ytktmm9...@yahoo.co.jp: Sorry your message to ytktmm9...@yahoo.co.jp cannot be delivered. This account has been disabled or discontinued [#102]. yuffieg...@yahoo.co.jp: Sorry your message to yuffieg...@yahoo.co.jp cannot be delivered. This account has been disabled or discontinued [#102]. y...@yahoo.co.jp: This user doesn't have a yahoo.co.jp account (y...@yahoo.co.jp) [-5] yukideschene7...@yahoo.co.jp: This user doesn't have a yahoo.co.jp account (yukideschene7...@yahoo.co.jp) [-101] yukiko_no...@yahoo.co.jp: Sorry your message to yukiko_no...@yahoo.co.jp cannot be delivered. This account has been disabled or discontinued [#102]. yukimatsuok...@yahoo.co.jp: Sorry your message to yukimatsuok...@yahoo.co.jp cannot be delivered. This account has been disabled or discontinued [#102]. yukko_pudd...@yahoo.co.jp: Sorry your message to yukko_pudd...@yahoo.co.jp cannot be delivered. This account has been disabled or discontinued [#102]. yumis...@yahoo.co.jp: Sorry your message to yumis...@yahoo.co.jp cannot be delivered. This account has been disabled or discontinued [#102]. yuri...@yahoo.co.jp: Sorry your message to yuri...@yahoo.co.jp cannot be delivered. This account has been disabled or discontinued [#102]. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PCI Compliance
All the better to have a completely hosted service with a trusted merchant. We have no CCRD information or even a card reader. We take no CCRD payments over the phone, by email, postal mail or store CCRD information for recurring invoices. All of our invoices are sent via email with an online payment URL to make CCRD payments or direct payments from their bank account or mailed in checks. Nonetheless, PCI worries are not on our watch. Frank Muto - Original Message - From: Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] PCI Compliance PCI compliance only applies to section of the network where YOU process and possibly store credit card information. If you have no over the net processing and don't store credit cards then it's easy. You fill out the form for terminal processing and just need to make sure the terminal itself is in a secured supervised location, acknowledge that credit cards are not saved or stored. If you save and store credit cards you need to certify that you are not store the whole magnetic strip info or security codes for the cards. If things are done on computer you have a more complex questioner to fill out. Are credit card info stored, if they are stored electronically the server needs to be protected by some form of firewall and only people with a need to know should be able to access the credit card details, part of the card number should be blanked out on display, no security codes are allowed to be stored. I assume your workstations and servers are on a separate segment on your network and should be protected with a firewall against any outside access (in the ISP case that also includes access from your customers and not only from the internet itself). If you have a wireless access point on that network segment it needs to be secured and only allow specific access from allowed devices and some form of encryption on any communication that reads/write credit card details. Database (or wherever your credit cards are stored) needs to be secured. If processing credit cards over the net you should have a end to end secure connection from your customers computer to the credit card gateway processor. So basically web page customer key in info needs to be secured by either ssl or some other method that sends the data in encrypted secured format. From your server to the processor the data also need to be secured (no processor I am aware of even accepts a unsecure submission of credit card details so this shouldn't be a problem on that basis). You also need to make sure that physical access to terminal and servers that process and store credit cards is secured. Also in the questioner it's asked if you have policies in place how to handle and treat credit cards, whom have access to them and what to do if any kind of breach would happen. The PCI compliance is pretty open and doesn't have for most part specific requirements when it comes to firewalls, how or what. If you store data and process data on a computer that computer needs to be protected both physically and virtually. Virtually can be a software firewall on the machine itself or it can be a hardware based firewall in front of the machine. Basically PCI compliance is all about common sense, ensure your servers are safe from any type of intrusion or theft, not to write down credit cards on scrap paper that is thrown in the trash, only allow access to credit card info to the people that have to have access to it. There are different levels and types of PCI compliance depends on how you process credit cards. Worst case scenario is if you have a regular credit card terminal or process credit cards across the network on a e-commerce type software (be it home written or professionally developed) and even worse if you store credit card details. Once you start filling out the questioner things will more than likely become a bit more clearer for you. If you store and process credit cards on computer than you need to as well have a company that is doing a PCI scan of your server to ensure hacker proof status. It will look for port vulnerabilities and web application security issues. https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/saq/index.shtml For most people a self assessment is enough (except for server scanning where an approved company needs to be used). If your company process a LOT of credit cards per year no external auditor needs to be hired (not even my company reaches the level where an external auditor is required but we have to file twice annually because of our volume while most WISPs I would dare to say would only be a level 4 which is the lowest level and would only need to file once a year). / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 1:21 AM
Re: [WISPA] Do yourself a favor
By the time the oil light, also called one of the idiot lights of the dashboard come on, or even the oil gauge, if so equipped shows danger, it may already be to late. Having been in the auto service sector before our Internet days, we saw this all too often. Well gee, the light just came on! Frank Muto - Original Message - From: Blair Davis To: WISPA General List Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Do yourself a favor I am surprised that your oil pressure gauge or oil light did not come on before that happened... Forbes Mercy wrote: I just want to share this with you, right now when you finish reading this put down the keyboard, walk outside and check the oil levels in all of your fleet. I kept threatening to get a truck serviced and kept procrastinating, today it ran out of oil and froze up. Perfectly good truck - gone. So you've read enough, now go do it, you'll thank yourself later. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT - Email Delivery Problems Killing ME - SOS lol
IMO, DKIM is not worth the time or is it as widely used as SPF/Sender ID. SPF configuration can/may get you blocked, but not necessarily increase spam folder receipts. Don't count on the receiving server to have their SPF setup properly. Depending on how you create the SPF records, can defer the message for additional filtering. Keep the SPF as short as possible, helping the large and very busy mail providers from spending to much time pinging DNS. Is your DNS service in good working order? Do all your end users always use your SMTP, or can they use other mail servers to send mail in behalf of the domain, e.g, Blackberry BIS? Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Google Postini Security Services Google Apps Premier Archiving www.SecureEmailPlus.com 800-246-7740 - Toll Free 630-258-7422 - Direct - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - Email Delivery Problems Killing ME - SOS lol First thing I would do is ask the recipient admin for a reason why it was labeled as spam. Fix that problem and move on with the next. I'd be willing to bet with just a few site removals a lot of services get restores - few big ones out there I can't remember what they're called. Have you watched the outgoing SMTP to make sure something isn't hijacked? Send me a message with a new domain, IP, etc and see if it gets marked as spam. On 2/11/10, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Ok, Many of our clients we do mail for are having issues and loosing patience with their email experiences with us. The usual everything used to work fine now they can't send to lots of people. I'm getting roasted. We use Smartermail enterprise, have the latest version and most of the extras you can get with it like comtouch, activesync etc... We have taken the following steps and still customers email gets delivered into spam folders of their customers which is causing headaches. Each has dedicated IP for their email domain Checked said IPs in MXtoolbox, amd many rbl blacklist checkers etc... All Green/negative Have SPF, DKIM, Domain Keys, reverse DNS etc set for them properly Basically, everything I know how to do. Still no luck, its hit or miss even on the same sites like gmail. One email works, one 30 minutes later in spam folder, next one toss a coin... Anyone who has any ideas, suggestions or can point me in the right direction would be extremely appreciated. Thanks. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Content Filter Suggestion for School
http://www.opendns.com/solutions/k12/filtering/ Frank Muto Secure Email Plus www.secureemailplus.com - Original Message - From: Israel Lopez-LISTS ilopezli...@sandboxitsolutions.com To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 3:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Content Filter Suggestion for School OpenDNS works in a pinch. However filters for all of DNS requests originating from one public IP (Students Admins)... you could go Hardware Based Filtering... barracuda and or cymphonix boxes as well. -Israel Scott Carullo wrote: I need a web content filter for K-12 school. Paid Subscription ok. Please let me know what good products there are for this requirement. Need asap. Thanks... Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] email black lists
I couldn't agree more with Eje. DNSStuff is a must if you are serious about your mail services. Frank Muto President Secure Email Plus Google Postini Services Distributor www.SecureEmailPlus.com WISPA Vendor Member 800-246-7740 - Toll Free 630-258-7422 - Direct a href=http://www.dnsstuff.com/amember/go.php?r=509i=b11;img src=http://graphics.dnsstuff.com/images/aff-banners/ToolsBlue234x60.jpg; border=0 alt=Killer tools to troubleshoot DNS and Email width=234 height=6021-day Trial/a - Original Message - From: Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] email black lists Any ISP running their own DNS and mail server needs to be subscribed to dnsstuff.com. Many many great DNS tools not only to test your DNS server entries on your own server but also to check how servers see lookups against your machine, to do spam db look ups and many other neat tools. Another feature they offer is RBL alerts if your mailserver gets RBL listed (gives you fast information so you can take care of a issue quickly before it goes way out of control). Plus you have their DNS alert feature so that it will automatically detect any issues without you having to run tests each time something is changed or in some cases with things break without you knowing it.. If you run your own DNS server and mail server then this will be your best spent $220 a year. I used their site for many years way back to when it was free service for the lookup tools. I tried to do without when they went pay but quickly signed up because it was invaluable to me. / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tim Kerns Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 12:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] email black lists Marlon, Also try this site http://whatismyipaddress.com/staticpages/index.php/is-my-ip-address-blacklis ted it looks on several list for you. - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:47 AM Subject: [WISPA] email black lists Hi All, We had a customer get a virus and it took us a couple of days to find out who it was. I'm off of all of the black lists that I can find, but I still can't send to a large number of companies. Hotmail, Key Bank, Frontier Net, Shaw etc. Is there a hidden black list out there somewhere? Is the a Barracuda thing or something? I'm going nuts trying to get email fixed! Here's an example of the bounce I get. All seem to be very similar, close enough that I think the same mechanism is being used by them all. idcmail.shaw.ca [24.71.223.11]: 554-idcmail.shaw.ca 554 Your connection from 64.146.146.8 has been rejected due to poor reputation. Any ideas? thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff
They switched over to a hosted service after first having Postini. Frank Muto www.SecureEmailPlus.com WISPA Vendor Member - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff We already use postini for email. Been doing that long before I even knew Franks name! He's a good guy and postini is amazingly good. He does your outbound too? - Original Message - From: Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff Marlon We use FRANK MUTO. Ever since we made the change, email has been a nice 5 letter word, instead of a repetitive prefixed 4 letter one :-). And our customers really like the change. Mostly for the full featured back end and their own spam control. Not to mention, 90% of that bandwidth usage never makes it to the gateway or our pocketbook, or latency. Since it is a paid service, I usually refer the 'extras' kids to Gmail. Have a good weekend fellow wisps, I'm outta here. Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC cprof...@cv-access.com Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff Hi All, What are you guys doing for email these days? I LOVE my setup for it's reliability, ease of use etc. Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though. We don't catch things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed. This has now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years. My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other than to limit cc's to 25 per message. We did that once before and my phone rang off the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends. The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get (up to 40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply address. So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's not even mine (faked info). sigh We use Courier MTA. My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per day per user. And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of messages received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of all those sending. Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no response from the server admins. Suggestions? laters, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What SIC code do you use?
As an ISP we used the following as SIC was converted to NAICS. 7375 SIC 514191 NAICS 518111 NAICS We currently use for our current services, 518210 Frank Muto www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: Lists li...@stlbroadband.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 12:34 PM Subject: [WISPA] What SIC code do you use? I read an article @ ISP-Planet that says: ISPs do not fit precisely into the SIC system. I use SIC code 7375, Information Retrieval Services to classify ISPs. MindSpring, on the other hand, uses code 7389, Business Services, Not Elsewhere Classified. Your best bet is to use SIC Code 7375, or visit OSHA's SIC Search for a complete list of SIC codes. Just curious what everyone else is using and why? Thanks, Victoria Proffer CEO StLouisBroadband.com ShowMeBroadband.com 314.974.5600 SBA Certified WOSB WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FCC Adelstein to leave for RUS
Feed: News/local from www.rapidcityjournal.com Posted on: Monday, March 23, 2009 8:12 PM Author: News/local from www.rapidcityjournal.com Subject: FCC's Jonathan Adelstein asked to lead rural utility push FCC's Jonathan Adelstein asked to lead rural utility push By The Associated Press and Journal staff President Barack Obama wants FCC Commissioner Jonathan Adelstein to be the new head of the Rural Utilities Service. Adelstein is the son of Sen. Stan Adelstein, R-Rapid City. The Rural Utilities Service is part of the U.S. Department of Agriculture and was founded during the Great Depression to bring electricity to rural residents. It has just received nearly $4 billion in stimulus money to give rural America better access to high-speed Internet and clean water. In a news release, Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin, D-S.D., praised Adelstein's experience. Jonathan's experience working on issues important to development in rural America will serve him well as the administrator for the USDA's Rural Utilities Service, Herseth Sandlin said in the release. His focus on improving rural telecommunications and broadband as a commissioner on the Federal Communications Commission will be particularly critical as we seek to enhance services available in rural communities in South Dakota and across the country. The president did not say who would replace Adelstein, a Democrat, at the FCC. The commission normally has five members but currently has three. Without Adelstein, it would not have a quorum, so his move to the Rural Utility Service is likely to be on hold until he is replaced. Adelstein has served on the FCC for six years. STATEMENT OF FCC ACTING CHAIRMAN MICHAEL J. COPPS ON THE NOMINATION OF COMMISSIONER ADELSTEIN TO BE ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE RURAL UTILITIES SERVICE. STMT. News Media Contact: David Fiske at (202) 418-0513 CMMR http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-289528A1.doc http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-289528A1.pdf http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-289528A1.txt STATEMENT OF FCC COMMISSIONER ROBERT MCDOWELL ON THE NOMINATION OF COMMISSIONER ADELSTEIN TO BE ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE RURAL UTILITIES SERVICE. STMT CMMR http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-289530A1.doc http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-289530A1.pdf http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-289530A1.txt Frank Muto WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software.
What version of QB are you using now? Frank Muto - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: memb...@wispa.org; Odessa Office 509-982-2181 off...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 10:51 AM Subject: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software. Hi All, I just got a notice that Quickbooks is going to REQUIRE an upgrade in order to continue to keep sending out bills via email. And we have all of 1 month or so to get it done I HATE Intuit and would like to replace them. Here's the work flow in our office. New customer calls in. Fill out signup sheet with all needed customer data. Assign static ip to customer. Enter customer billing info into Quickbooks. Enter all customer data into Access. Enter customer username and pass into RADIUS. Enter customer email account(s) data into email server. Enter customer data into Postini (if they purchase the filtering). Type customer signup sheet info into word doc and store in customer folder. Generate installation work order. Fill out check list showing what steps have been completed. This has worked nicely in the past and only takes about 30 minutes to accomplish. But now we're growing too fast and have gotten too big to maintain this. Between tech support calls etc. the office manager is having to bring in extra help. It's only a day per week and it's good for there to be two people there at least part of the time. No one should work alone all of the time. Plus, if she wants to take some time off she will have someone trained in the basics so we'll likely need to keep some extra help around no matter what. This mechanism also gives us a lot of double checks, redundant data points etc. With Access and Quickbooks we can run a very nice mix of reports etc. We do NOT have a customer trouble ticket mechanism other than the file on them. We don't track customers on a per call basis. That's not too bad because we're still small enough that we can normally remember problem customers. This would probably be a good time to change everything though. In my perfect world, I'd have a billing system (that handles all of the taxes for different communities etc.), trouble ticketing, auto server configuration AND deconfig. I'd want good reporting capabilities. I've looked at some of the commercial systems out there, but at $1 or more per month per sub for a full blown system I'd rather keep putting that money into the local labor pool. Freeside looks pretty good but I don't do programming or server admin work in-house. I don't mind hiring someone to set it all up etc. and to take care of the server. But it has to be an affordable solution too. What are people using? Do you like it? If you had it to do all over again, what would you do? Vendors please feel free to hit me up. marlon 509.988.0260 Or talk to Apryl in the office 509.982.2181, she'll know more about what she does day in and day out. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software.
That may work for a smaller amount of customers, but when dealing with a significant amount of customers that can not be cost/time efficient thing to do. Frank - Original Message - From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software. Marlon, I got a notice like that from Quickbooks maybe 6 months ago. I irked me because I didn't want them to be able to force me to upgrade when my 2004 edition was doing just fine. I started using the following workaround. 1. Rather than emailing invoices directly from QB via their email gateway, I now save each completed invoice as a PDF in the subdirectory of the client that I'm invoicing. 2. From my email program, I then originate an email to the client and attach the PDF invoice. This process may take a few more seconds than the older, mail-from-QB process but it has worked out well otherwise and I feel that I am less of a victim of Intuit's marketing machine. Also, when I need to follow up with the client regarding payment status (which happens all too often these days) I can just go back to the original email that I sent them and forward it to the client along with a polite inquiry as to the payment status. jack Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Hi All, I just got a notice that Quickbooks is going to REQUIRE an upgrade in order to continue to keep sending out bills via email. And we have all of 1 month or so to get it done I HATE Intuit and would like to replace them. Here's the work flow in our office. New customer calls in. Fill out signup sheet with all needed customer data. Assign static ip to customer. Enter customer billing info into Quickbooks. Enter all customer data into Access. Enter customer username and pass into RADIUS. Enter customer email account(s) data into email server. Enter customer data into Postini (if they purchase the filtering). Type customer signup sheet info into word doc and store in customer folder. Generate installation work order. Fill out check list showing what steps have been completed. This has worked nicely in the past and only takes about 30 minutes to accomplish. But now we're growing too fast and have gotten too big to maintain this. Between tech support calls etc. the office manager is having to bring in extra help. It's only a day per week and it's good for there to be two people there at least part of the time. No one should work alone all of the time. Plus, if she wants to take some time off she will have someone trained in the basics so we'll likely need to keep some extra help around no matter what. This mechanism also gives us a lot of double checks, redundant data points etc. With Access and Quickbooks we can run a very nice mix of reports etc. We do NOT have a customer trouble ticket mechanism other than the file on them. We don't track customers on a per call basis. That's not too bad because we're still small enough that we can normally remember problem customers. This would probably be a good time to change everything though. In my perfect world, I'd have a billing system (that handles all of the taxes for different communities etc.), trouble ticketing, auto server configuration AND deconfig. I'd want good reporting capabilities. I've looked at some of the commercial systems out there, but at $1 or more per month per sub for a full blown system I'd rather keep putting that money into the local labor pool. Freeside looks pretty good but I don't do programming or server admin work in-house. I don't mind hiring someone to set it all up etc. and to take care of the server. But it has to be an affordable solution too. What are people using? Do you like it? If you had it to do all over again, what would you do? Vendors please feel free to hit me up. marlon 509.988.0260 Or talk to Apryl in the office 509.982.2181, she'll know more about what she does day in and day out. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 Cisco Press Author - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs WISPs - Do you know where your customers are? For wireless coverage mapping see http://www.ask-wi.com/mapping FCC Lic. #PG-12-25133 LinkedIn Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/jackunger Phone 818-227-4220 Email jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Let's talk about that stimulus some more!
* Half of the original $7B is designated for rural communities (anyone know the precise definition of that term in this context?) Usually you need to refer to other bills for explanations and definitions. As you see in the general provisions, the Stimulus refers to the Bureau of Census, It may be easier to get the information directly from the Secretary of Agriculture, or someone who has already use such funds in the past realtive to the rural communities. American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 GENERAL PROVISIONS--THIS TITLE Sec. 101. Funds appropriated by this Act and made available to the United States Department of Agriculture for broadband direct loans and loan guarantees, as authorized under title VI of the Rural Electrification Act of 1936 (7 U.S.C. 950bb) and for grants, shall be available for broadband infrastructure in any area of the United States notwithstanding title VI of the Rural Electrification Act of 1936: Provided, That at least 75 percent of the area served by the projects receiving funds from such grants, loans, or loan guarantees is in a rural area without sufficient access to high speed broadband service to facilitate rural economic development, as determined by the Secretary: Provided further, That priority for awarding funds made available under this paragraph shall be given to projects that provide service to the highest proportion of rural residents that do not have sufficient access to broadband service: Provided further, That priority for awarding such funds shall be given to project applications that demonstrate that, if the application is approved, all project elements will be fully funded: Provided further, That priority for awarding such funds shall be given to activities that can commence promptly following approval: Provided further, That the Department shall submit a report on planned spending and actual obligations describing the use of these funds not later than 90 days after the date of enactment of this Act, and quarterly thereafter until all funds are obligated, to the Committees on Appropriations of the House of Representatives and the Senate. Rural Electrification Act of 1936 http://www.usda.gov/rus/regs/info/100-1/title_i.htm SEC. 13. DEFINITIONS.--As used in this Act the term rural area, except as provided in section 203(b), shall be deemed to mean any area of the United States not included within the boundaries of any urban area, as defined by the Bureau of the Census, and such term shall be deemed to include both the farm and nonfarm population thereof; the term farm shall be deemed to mean a farm as defined in the publications of the Bureau of the Census, the term person shall be deemed to mean any natural person, firm, corporation, or association; the term Territory shall be deemed to include any insular possession of the United States; and the term Secretary shall be deemed to mean the Secretary of Agriculture. [May 20,1936, ch. 432, Title I, §13, 49 Stat. 1367; Oct. 28,1949, ch. 776, §2, 63 Stat. 948; Nov. 1, 1993, Public Law 103-129, §2(c)(3), 107 Stat. 1363; Oct. 13, 1994, Public Law 103-354, Title II, Subtitle C, §235(a)(6), 108 Stat. 3221; 7 U.S.C.913.] SEC. 203. DEFINITION OF TELEPHONE SERVICE AND RURAL AREA.-(a) As used in this title, the term telephone service shall be deemed to mean any communication service for the transmission or reception of voice, data, sounds, signals, pictures, writing, or signs of all kinds by wire, fiber, radio, light, or other visual or electromagnetic means, and shall include all telephone lines, facilities, or systems used in the rendition of such service; but shall not be deemed to mean message telegram service or community antenna television system services or facilities other than those intended exclusively for educational purposes, or radio broadcasting services or facilities within the meaning of section 3(o) of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended. (b) As used in this title, the term rural area shall be deemed to mean any area of the United States not included within the boundaries of any incorporated or unincorporated city, village, or borough having a population in excess of 5000 inhabitants. [Oct. 28, 1949, ch. 776, §5, 63 Stat. 948; Oct. 23, 1962, Public Law 87-862, 76 Stat. 1140; Nov. 28, 1990, Public Law 101-624, Title XXIII, Subtitle F, ch. 2, §2354, 104 Stat. 4039; Nov. 1, 1993, Public Law 103-129, §2(c)(5), 107 Stat. 1364; 7 U.S.C. 924.] Frank Muto - Original Message - From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 11:23 AM Subject: [WISPA] Let's talk about that stimulus some more! I made a copy of the stimulus bill's complete text, just so you don't have to go searching through the Library of Congress database to find it (not that it's hard to do), here: http://images.bureau42.com/sa/stimulus.htm This is the version
Re: [WISPA] Imail Server Upgrade Trouble
IMAIL 10 FAQ http://tinyurl.com/8ytj4b A) First make sure that your server meets the system requirements for the new version of IMail. For instance, it would be a good idea to make sure IIS is up and running with at least the default site. Also, make sure that IIS is configured to use .Net 2.0. B) Get a backup of the IMail registry keys as outlined in the following article: Backup/Restore the IMail Registry C) Install the latest version of IMail. D) If you use AV Premium, be sure to install the latest version(5.2). Note: Since we now use IIS, your web pages may be blocked if you used the old port 8383. You can change the IIS web port within IIS if you want to use port 8383 instead of port 80. Frank Muto www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: John Scrivner j...@scrivner.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 12:52 PM Subject: [WISPA] Imail Server Upgrade Trouble We upgraded our Imail server this morning from version 8.15 to the latest release of Imail version 10. In the process our web interface has decided to ignore our mailboxes. If anyone out there has some experience with troubleshooting mailbox rebuilding issues in Imail then please call me at 618-237-2387 as soon as you read this. Your help is appreciated. Thank you, John Scrivner WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs
As a ENET distributor, I'll agree with Mark. After testing various hosted services for 18 months, I decided on ENET back in 2006. For a hosted service I feel it is the best all around email service you can offer your customers. We use ENET mostly for backup continuity and for clients looking for a less expensive alternative to in-house Exchange, or hosted Exchange. We have the full compliment to offer, IMAP, POP3, Webmail and a customizable portal. Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Google Security Services Distributor- Powered by Postini www.SecureEmailPlus.com 800-246-7740 - Toll Free 630-258-7422 - Direct - Original Message - From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs If you only host your OWN domain, this looks like a good solution. If you host your CUSTOMER's domains, it is not, at least when I researched it before we went with Everyone.Net. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Patrick Nix Jr. pni...@cnetworksolutions.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:51 AM Subject: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it working for you. Currently we are running our email services on an out of production email server that is no longer supported and behind a Barracuda SF for spam protection. It is causing more problems than it's worth. If it were up to me I'd have everyone switch to gmail or something like that but of course people don't like to change their email addresses. Thanks __ Patrick Nix, Jr., WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT Mail help
You are running Barracuda, see this http://www.barracudanetworks.com/ns/downloads/barracuda_anti_spoofing_solution_white_paper.pdf Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Google Security Services Distributor www.SecureEmailPlus.com 800-246-7740 - Toll Free 630-258-7422 - Direct - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:47 PM Subject: [WISPA] OT Mail help anyone can decifer where this email is comming from? we have a Exchange server for our office, all users are receving this spam Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0 Received: from aerosrv ([127.0.0.1]) by aeronetpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:19:00 -0400 Return-Path: sa...@aeronetpr.com Received: from barracuda.aeronetpr.com (barracuda.aeronetpr.com [207.15.198.4]) by mail.aeronetpr.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mBGIoVnB031448 for sa...@aeronetpr.com; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:50:31 -0400 From: sa...@aeronetpr.com X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1229455112-480d000b-cgOvtu X-Barracuda-URL: http://207.15.198.4:8000/cgi-bin/mark.cgi Received: from host86-139-131-61.range86-139.btcentralplus.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by barracuda.aeronetpr.com (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id D80BACFE19 for sa...@aeronetpr.com; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:18:33 -0400 (AST) Received: from host86-139-131-61.range86-139.btcentralplus.com (host86-139-131-61.range86-139.btcentralplus.com [86.139.131.61]) by barracuda.aeronetpr.com with SMTP id cURjBU2C4Huq4230 for sa...@aeronetpr.com; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:18:33 -0400 (AST) X-ASG-Whitelist: Sender To: sa...@aeronetpr.com X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: Order status Subject: Re: Order status MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html X-Barracuda-Connect: host86-139-131-61.range86-139.btcentralplus.com[86.139.131.61] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1229455114 Message-Id: 20081216191833.d80bacf...@barracuda.aeronetpr.com Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:18:33 -0400 (AST) X-Barracuda-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at aeronetpr.com X-IMAPbase: 1192216617 229052 Status: O X-UID: 229051 Content-Length: 681 X-Keywords: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Dec 2008 19:19:00.0739 (UTC) FILETIME=[268DED30:01C95FB3] Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT Mail help
Thanks Sam. One reason is that we have some of our clients that run both services in trials and also as secondary services. Gino, Here is a direct link to the information on Barracuda anti-spoofing, http://www.barracuda.com/kb?id=5016000GTh2 Frank - Original Message - From: Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT Mail help Not very often you see that... For those that don't know Frank actually resells a competitive service (Postini). Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless (a very satisfied SecureEmailPlus customer) Frank Muto wrote: You are running Barracuda, see this http://www.barracudanetworks.com/ns/downloads/barracuda_anti_spoofing_solution_white_paper.pdf Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Google Security Services Distributor www.SecureEmailPlus.com 800-246-7740 - Toll Free 630-258-7422 - Direct - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:47 PM Subject: [WISPA] OT Mail help anyone can decifer where this email is comming from? we have a Exchange server for our office, all users are receving this spam Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0 Received: from aerosrv ([127.0.0.1]) by aeronetpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:19:00 -0400 Return-Path: sa...@aeronetpr.com Received: from barracuda.aeronetpr.com (barracuda.aeronetpr.com [207.15.198.4]) by mail.aeronetpr.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mBGIoVnB031448 for sa...@aeronetpr.com; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:50:31 -0400 From: sa...@aeronetpr.com X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1229455112-480d000b-cgOvtu X-Barracuda-URL: http://207.15.198.4:8000/cgi-bin/mark.cgi Received: from host86-139-131-61.range86-139.btcentralplus.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by barracuda.aeronetpr.com (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id D80BACFE19 for sa...@aeronetpr.com; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:18:33 -0400 (AST) Received: from host86-139-131-61.range86-139.btcentralplus.com (host86-139-131-61.range86-139.btcentralplus.com [86.139.131.61]) by barracuda.aeronetpr.com with SMTP id cURjBU2C4Huq4230 for sa...@aeronetpr.com; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:18:33 -0400 (AST) X-ASG-Whitelist: Sender To: sa...@aeronetpr.com X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: Order status Subject: Re: Order status MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html X-Barracuda-Connect: host86-139-131-61.range86-139.btcentralplus.com[86.139.131.61] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1229455114 Message-Id: 20081216191833.d80bacf...@barracuda.aeronetpr.com Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:18:33 -0400 (AST) X-Barracuda-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at aeronetpr.com X-IMAPbase: 1192216617 229052 Status: O X-UID: 229051 Content-Length: 681 X-Keywords: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Dec 2008 19:19:00.0739 (UTC) FILETIME=[268DED30:01C95FB3] Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] cancelled customer email
Likewise. When we shut down our dial-up in 2002, we kept the mail service going with the domain our users had for almost 5 years, charging $60 annually, including Postini. We also do a good amount of backup email services all completely outsourced from multiple providers. Frank Muto www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] cancelled customer email Easiest $5/mth I have ever made. We have dial-up customers that have switched to other companies DSL that can not get our wireless ad keep thier email with us for $60/year. I have one customer that has done it for over 3 years now. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 20:18:24 -0700 I think we keep it alive for $5/month. - Original Message - From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 8:12 PM Subject: [WISPA] cancelled customer email OK guys. I've never had this happen before so I'm not usre what to do. I've got a long time customer that has fallen for the ATT DSL giveaway package and is switching. He asked if he could pay a small monthly rate to keep his email addresses for a few months until he gets the word out. My first reaction is to tell him to take a flying leap. After some thought, I want to be reasonable. I've thought about telling him he can do so with a low end plan. We dont sell email accounts. How do you handle this? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DSL Tariffed
No and no. In case you missed it, the FCC Report and Order FCC 05-150 issued on 9/23/05 basically gave your business away to the RBOCS. Frank Muto www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 10:11 PM Subject: [WISPA] DSL Tariffed I'm losing a business customer to DSL. They offered them a price much below what they advertise (6Mbps for $49). My question is: Is DSL a tariffed service and have to sell at their advertised rates? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Emergency FCC Information - Florida DIsasterArea
No. Here is the info from the FCC, http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-08-1958A1.pdf Frank - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 11:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Emergency FCC Information - Florida DIsasterArea Do you really think the FCC has specified P-15 to the be the official conduit for status reports? - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 9:19 PM Subject: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Emergency FCC Information - Florida DIsaster Area For anyone in Florida... marlon - Original Message - From: Bullit To: Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:42 AM Subject: [WISP] Emergency FCC Information - Florida DIsaster Area Disaster data collection has been activated for Tropical Storm Fay. The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) has developed the Disaster Information Reporting System (DIRS) to receive information on the status of your communications equipment in the disaster area. The area of interest for this activation is focused on those areas hardest hit by the storm and those on the projected path covering much of Central, Northeast, North Central, and Northwest Florida Counties including: Alachua, Bay, Bradford, Brevard, Calhoun, Columbia, Dixie, Escambia, Franklin, Gadsden, Gilchrist, Gulf, Hamilton, Hardee, Highlands, Holmes, Jackson, Jefferson, Lafayette, Lake, Leon, Levy, Liberty, Madison, Marion , Okaloosa, Orange , Osceola , Polk, Santa Rosa , Seminole, Sumter, Suwannee, Taylor, Union, Volusia, Wakulla, Walton, Washington. If you have communications equipment in the disaster area, the FCC requests that you provide daily reports on the status of your equipment by using PART-15.ORG. If anyone in Florida's current disaster area, please contact me off list ASAP. Michael WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Topic change - TradeAssociation Was:Report:FCCtoPunishComcast Over Web Blocking
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Forrest, let me get back to the very old conversation about why WISPA should organized at least 1500 filings to the FCC by every WISP they could get to act, to say This cannot be done. Before they even bothered to read half of them, the FCC would have been in the process of asking INDUSTRY how to do this, but no, WISPA folks had to play pussyfoot and now we're stuck with an enormous boondoggle, FOR NO BENEFIT TO ANYONE. In spite of people's best efforts at character asassination, I have never once objected to being required to help law enforcement do what it needs to do, so could we dispense with the silly nonsense already? Unless a party files a special petition pursuant to CALEA § 107(b), the Commission does not get formally involved with the compliance standards development process. CALEA also does not provide for Commission review of manufacturer-developed solutions. Entities subject to CALEA are responsible for reviewing the Commission's regulations and analyzing how this regulation applies per their specific network architecture. http://www.fcc.gov/calea/ Frank WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Topic change - Trade Association Was: Report: FCC to Punish Comcast Over Web Blocking
Tom, I'll answer your question and I need to change up the topic. In part I agree and I am not set against working this out, but Martin is setting up some bad and continuing precedence on how the FCC is working within their legal purview. He is already on the hot seat with Congress on some of his actions. Topic Change: I can guarantee you, I will be all over any actions that effect my current business, as I was unfortunately too late to make any difference saving our wireline business. Even when I co-founded the WBIA back in Oct 2004, I knew it was too late, but I have learned a great deal from it. My take away was how much the deck is stacked against when your peers don't give a hoot and unite under a common cause. But even when we showed the willingness to do something, we were able assembly a consult of people to help us guide our efforts. Peter R., Jim Garrett and a few others can attest to what my co-founder Cynthia de Lorenzi and myself were able to accomplish. Even though the RBOC's had tacit agreements underlying their competitive opportunities. XO had their say about this, http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2005_Oct_21/ai_n15728657 They are using even more group power between them against the CableCo's with a new service called, http://movearoo.com/. Essentially this is a new wrapper around a company called www.WhiteFence.com, and is powered by WhiteFence. That said, the Wi-Fi industry IMO is heading down the same path unless the alleged thousands of Wireless providers, big and small all get together under a common effort. This goes without saying that the vendor's themselves get with it as well. I'll assume there is enough purchasing power to make a difference, that could effect how companies view their relationships with the wireless industry. Prior to my ISP life, I came from the Independent automotive service industry, dealing in replacement parts and service spanning some 30 years. I can honestly tell you if were not for the trade associations in every state, you may not be able to purchase replacement parts or take your auto to a neighborhood service center. We fought for many years in keeping open trade in automotive service industry. Even when your car was going electronic and computerized, the automakers tried keeping us out of the game. But, our purchasing power with the tool companies and replacement parts industries, provided us with a significant amount of leverage in keeping the big automakers from locking us out within their own monopoly. Trade associations can make a world of difference, but only when everyone joins in. And there is NO excuse, NONE, ZIPPO, NADA for even a one-man shop or mom pop shops from joining WISPA. We had thousands of independent auto centers from one-man operations and up joining in on supporting our efforts to keep their livelihoods as safe as possible. I will got out here and say it. There is NO excuse not to support WISPA, NONE! So for all of you on this general list not supporting WISPA, you are losing out on an opportunity to make your livelihood last and support your families for years to come. $25 a month is a small price to pay for some representation in a industry that is supporting yourself and families. I am sure you can find that much on wasted expenses every month. It is also time for WISPA to come to grips with what they have accomplished over the past year and stop walking over eggs shells, thinking that you may hurt someone's feelings. STOP working for FREE! It is my opinion, that even though WISPA is a trade association, albeit a 503(c)6, it is still a business. A business that needs capital to operate for the benefit of the members. And a business that should be working for those members and be paid for their efforts. A business that continues to operate on a volunteer basis will most likely have a hard time taking it to the next level. I feel that the current WISPA membership and those to come, deserve a governing board that can eventually work fulltime in building this association like they are their own business. I see no issues with bringing on an Executive director with an extensive network or company, to kick start the momentum needed to drive WISPA to the next level, thus having the BOD be responsible for that management. This would allow even the current BOD to participate at a level within their own time capacities. In closing, as a vendor member, I take it very personally when in supporting WISPA I offer a fully-paid 1-year membership to WISPA and the recipient of that could care less. At the last ISPCON show in Chicago, I was glad to see the turn out at the WISPA exchange and was going to add a few more memberships, but I sank back into my seat after seeing the reception of the first free membership be that of so what. Let alone a thanks for it. Respectfully, Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. www.SecureEmailPlus.com
Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade Association Was: Report: FCC toPunishComcast Over Web Blocking
You don't get it. CALEA was a good thing for WISPA and its members. You need to understand that you pick the battles you feel you can win. WISPA has gained a good amount of respect from the FCC, but this is only one of many battle fronts WISP's are up against. The FIGHT for US battle cry you comment on takes money, time and a good amount off leg work to make things work. You are dealing with a bureau that has many different levels of staffing, it can take weeks to know who to talk to, when and if they will talk to you, will it be ex-parte or not, etc, etc, etc. Understand that the RBOCs and other companies are clamoring for the eyes and ears of those a the FCC, as WISPs need to get to.The fight is not only on the federal level, but also at the state and local levels as well. Frank - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade Association Was: Report: FCC toPunishComcast Over Web Blocking insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Frank Muto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 8:53 AM Subject: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade Association Was: Report: FCC to PunishComcast Over Web Blocking I will got out here and say it. There is NO excuse not to support WISPA, NONE! So for all of you on this general list not supporting WISPA, you are losing out on an opportunity to make your livelihood last and support your families for years to come. $25 a month is a small price to pay for some representation in a industry that is supporting yourself and families. I am sure you can find that much on wasted expenses every month. Yes, there is. Until the current leadership gets their head out of the sand and starts fighting FOR US, instead of playing the FCC's patsy, I will not give them another dollar. When the boys came back from DC and posting to the lists that CALEA and the reporting mandates were good things, I could no longer in good conscience give them another dollar to use to use AGAINST US. Whatever they did or said in DC on that topic, IN NO WAY REPRESENTED ME OR THE INTERESTS OF MY BUSINESS OR MY FUTURE. When I saw certain WISPA leadership glom onto the idea of a CALEA mandate being an opportunity to extract more money and blackmail more memberships, I was immediately convinced that they were in it FOR THEM, and not us.I even saw posting by someone who said that CALEA would be good for WISPA. Not good for the members = good for WISPA? Hell NO! I will not play that game. We got local, state and federal governemnt playing that game, why would I voluntarily add WISPA to it? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Users Still Cling to Dialup
A repost from yesterday. You can download the Pew Report here; http://www.pewinternet.org/pdfs/PIP_Broadband_2008.pdf Frank Muto www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: Stephen Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 6:50 PM Subject: [WISPA] Users Still Cling to Dialup FYI Interesting, http://www.dailytech.com/Users+Still+Cling+to+Dialup/article12283.htm http://www.newser.com/article/D91M6BCO1.html Small quote from that The survey does illustrate a concern that some Americans want broadband but can't get it, denying them opportunities to work online or take classes online. Of the rural Americans on dialup, 24 percent said they would upgrade if it was available in their area, whereas only 11 percent of suburban users in areas of non-availability and 3 percent of urban users would upgrade. Regards Stephen Patrick == CABLEFREE CableFree Solutions Ltd, Holly House, St. Clare Business Park, 22 Holly Road, Hampton Hill, Middlesex, TW12 1QH, UK Tel: +44(0)20 8941 7975 Fax:+44(0)20 8941 2410 Web:www.cablefreesolutions.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] People just don't want broadband
You can download the Pew Report here; http://www.pewinternet.org/pdfs/PIP_Broadband_2008.pdf Frank Muto www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 9:29 AM Subject: [WISPA] People just don't want broadband http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/ptech/07/02/broadband.study.ap/index.html -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda
That still puts pressure on the system resources. As a wireless provider you have enough on your plate to deal with. Options include, outsourcing email with integrated spam/virus (AS/AV) with IMAP/POP3/Webmail options, or outsource the AS/AV and take the load off of your systems. Your current mail system is there for backup should you ever need it, if you outsource email. We have some clients that split between the two by e.g., keeping their appliance, in this case Barracuda and outsourcing additional AS/AV and email. Barracuda needs to upgrade their 300/400 units with Gigabit Ethernet, IMO. Instead of selling higher priced models or additional units to cover the amount of load even for the under 500 user systems. Frank Muto www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 8:16 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda UPDATE I just got done messing with that Untangled garbage. It has absolutely no way to configure anything. It is basically setup so all you have to do is plug it in line as a bridge and hope that it does what you want cause you can't configure it for crap. So back to the cuda. I tell you that I have turned off the use of the Barracuda black list and only use the zen.spamhaus.org BL and it is taking care of about 95% of the spam. If anyone is looking to do some basic spam filtering on the el-cheapo I would highly recommend some kind of box that all it does is checks the zen.spamhaus.org blacklist. Wish I Would have figured that out before I gave my money to the cuda. Thing is with a cuda you gotta keep feeding it (money) or it will become un-loyal and run away from you. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rogelio Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 2:18 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Has anyone used this spam firewall? http://www.untangle.com http://www.untangle.com/ it is free to install on any server. I have a Barracuda SF200 and this thing is making me angry. It is so slow I don't even bother trying to log into it. It times out constantly and is so un-responsive. When it does work it takes a min of 30 seconds to change pages and that's when it is working properly. Its not overloaded I only got 200 email addresses and its rated for 500. I would seriously stay away from untangle as an ISP-level solution. Sure, it's cool if you're a small shop with no budget, but this is not something that you want to mess with. I'm guessing (because you're asking this question on this list) that are looking for something easy. If so, seriously consider doing the Postini thing like others have suggested. I would recommend several other managed Barracuda solutions I've tried, but honestly, I've never had with them the seamless experience I've had with Postini. Or...build your own solution! Like I said in an earlier email, Qmailtoaster is solid http://www.qmailtoaster.org/ You can easily have it forward to other boxes, and it's an excellent (IMO) first defense solution for those who are budget conscious and willing to put in some (but not too much) elbow grease to fix their problem. Their listserv is good, in my opinion. The people I've talked to there have been quite helpful. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda
I look at it this way, usage is up and there is more junk coming in now than pre-2003 and even more so from 2005. Broadband speeds and increased PC horse power, are allowing faster access for the customer, but also for the spammer/hacker. IMO, for anyone using Wi-Fi and also VOIP, taking the noise off the line enhances both services significantly. If offering mail filtering, compliance archiving and related services are not on your menu to business clients, it should be. There are a number of good providers out there that can be outsourced as a reseller. Email continuity (backup hot mailboxes), message filtering for your local businesses with Exchange servers, data disaster services, are a hot market for you. There is plenty of business right in your own back yard, just waiting for your expertise. Frank Muto www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda This is an age old argumentkeep it inhouse or outsource ? Outsource works very well as long as you have the right kind of (good match) outsource partner, and in-house works well is you are looking for full control and have extra available manpower to spare. Keep in mind that out-source does not have to be an end-all type of solution. There are a few other great outsource Anti-Spam/Anti-Virus provider. We used Postini for a long time, however a few years back they forced us to change to a different provider, when they had decided to change their business model and 'shove' a ridiculus contract down our throat. It turns out, it was the best thing that happed to us. We ended up using Katharion, which has been more accurate then Postini's service and the folks there have been excellent in providing assitance, and best of all the cost is a fraction of Postini. Another new but mature provider in the market space is TuCows, I personally do not have experience with their service but have heard good things about them. In our case, we ended up looking at the total cost of outsource vs the cost of inhouse solutions + manhours required to optimize and maintain...we came up with a figure of $6000-$7000/yes (approx $500/month), as long as the total cost of the outsource was less than this, the it was not worth bringing it inhouse. Additionally we are also able to re-coup some of this expense by being able to sell the filtering as a service to corporate customers. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Muto Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda That still puts pressure on the system resources. As a wireless provider you have enough on your plate to deal with. Options include, outsourcing email with integrated spam/virus (AS/AV) with IMAP/POP3/Webmail options, or outsource the AS/AV and take the load off of your systems. Your current mail system is there for backup should you ever need it, if you outsource email. We have some clients that split between the two by e.g., keeping their appliance, in this case Barracuda and outsourcing additional AS/AV and email. Barracuda needs to upgrade their 300/400 units with Gigabit Ethernet, IMO. Instead of selling higher priced models or additional units to cover the amount of load even for the under 500 user systems. Frank Muto www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 8:16 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda UPDATE I just got done messing with that Untangled garbage. It has absolutely no way to configure anything. It is basically setup so all you have to do is plug it in line as a bridge and hope that it does what you want cause you can't configure it for crap. So back to the cuda. I tell you that I have turned off the use of the Barracuda black list and only use the zen.spamhaus.org BL and it is taking care of about 95% of the spam. If anyone is looking to do some basic spam filtering on the el-cheapo I would highly recommend some kind of box that all it does is checks the zen.spamhaus.org blacklist. Wish I Would have figured that out before I gave my money to the cuda. Thing is with a cuda you gotta keep feeding it (money) or it will become un-loyal and run away from you. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rogelio Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 2:18 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Has anyone used this spam firewall? http
Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda
Outbound is not as much trouble, unless of course a customer has a virus, than inbound. Just how would the Cuda box do any checks without receiving a message? You still have all those connections coming in, so the problem still exists. Frank - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda The barracuda should do all the checks it can before the bandwidth is every used. If its not, ditch it and go with the setup I mentioned earlier. There are many checks that can be done to verify a legit email before it ever leaves the sending email server to consume any bandwidth. Scott -- Original Message -- From: Frank Muto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:33:01 -0400 I look at it this way, usage is up and there is more junk coming in now than pre-2003 and even more so from 2005. Broadband speeds and increased PC horse power, are allowing faster access for the customer, but also for the spammer/hacker. IMO, for anyone using Wi-Fi and also VOIP, taking the noise off the line enhances both services significantly. If offering mail filtering, compliance archiving and related services are not on your menu to business clients, it should be. There are a number of good providers out there that can be outsourced as a reseller. Email continuity (backup hot mailboxes), message filtering for your local businesses with Exchange servers, data disaster services, are a hot market for you. There is plenty of business right in your own back yard, just waiting for your expertise. Frank Muto www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda This is an age old argumentkeep it inhouse or outsource ? Outsource works very well as long as you have the right kind of (good match) outsource partner, and in-house works well is you are looking for full control and have extra available manpower to spare. Keep in mind that out-source does not have to be an end-all type of solution. There are a few other great outsource Anti-Spam/Anti-Virus provider. We used Postini for a long time, however a few years back they forced us to change to a different provider, when they had decided to change their business model and 'shove' a ridiculus contract down our throat. It turns out, it was the best thing that happed to us. We ended up using Katharion, which has been more accurate then Postini's service and the folks there have been excellent in providing assitance, and best of all the cost is a fraction of Postini. Another new but mature provider in the market space is TuCows, I personally do not have experience with their service but have heard good things about them. In our case, we ended up looking at the total cost of outsource vs the cost of inhouse solutions + manhours required to optimize and maintain...we came up with a figure of $6000-$7000/yes (approx $500/month), as long as the total cost of the outsource was less than this, the it was not worth bringing it inhouse. Additionally we are also able to re-coup some of this expense by being able to sell the filtering as a service to corporate customers. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Muto Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda That still puts pressure on the system resources. As a wireless provider you have enough on your plate to deal with. Options include, outsourcing email with integrated spam/virus (AS/AV) with IMAP/POP3/Webmail options, or outsource the AS/AV and take the load off of your systems. Your current mail system is there for backup should you ever need it, if you outsource email. We have some clients that split between the two by e.g., keeping their appliance, in this case Barracuda and outsourcing additional AS/AV and email. Barracuda needs to upgrade their 300/400 units with Gigabit Ethernet, IMO. Instead of selling higher priced models or additional units to cover the amount of load even for the under 500 user systems. Frank Muto www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 8:16 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda UPDATE I just got done messing with that Untangled garbage. It has absolutely no way to configure anything. It is basically setup so all you have to do is plug it in line as a bridge and hope that it does what you want cause you
Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda
- Original Message - From: Scott Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 08:59:38AM -0400, Frank Muto wrote: That still puts pressure on the system resources. As a wireless provider you have enough on your plate to deal with. Options include, outsourcing email with integrated spam/virus (AS/AV) with IMAP/POP3/Webmail options, or outsource the AS/AV and take the load off of your systems. I outsource my spam scanning. I will *not* outsource my e-mail hosting. I outsourced anti-spam/anti-virus onto a barracuda model 400 because it was the model which would : A) Save me 20 hours per week of analyzing and creating rules for my SpamAssassin boxes. B) Still let me follow every message, every step of the way through the systems. C) Only need one BSF 400 to handle the load that required 2 SpamAssassin boxes. D) Allow me to rebrand the interface. E) Provide a web GUI for users to tweak their individual settings to a level which worked for them, with a quarantine holding area other than their inbox for the borderline stuff. False positives suck less if you can pull them out of the quarantine. Things like Postini provide some of the same benefits. But I really, really worry about B. I could buy a new BSF model 600 every two years for the prices I was quoted by the Postini sales guy (not you). Don't get me wrong, Barracuda makes a fine appliance and comparing them to a hosted solution with far greater processing power, 7 global data centers and 14 redundant systems, now with the strength of Google's cash and server farms, is two different things. As for B, unfortunately that is a weakness that some IT people can not give up. 45% of the IT departments in Fortune 1000 companies in the US do not have too much of that same problem. A year or two later, I bought a second model 400 to help deal with the scanning load. Spam volume had more than doubled. Currently, we see more than 700,000 message send attempts to the two boxes per day. The RBLs take out approximately 600,000 of those attempts. Your current mail system is there for backup should you ever need it, if you outsource email. We have some clients that split between the two by e.g., keeping their appliance, in this case Barracuda and outsourcing additional AS/AV and email. Barracuda needs to upgrade their 300/400 units with Gigabit Ethernet, IMO. Instead of selling higher priced models or additional units to cover the amount of load even for the under 500 user systems. I'm curious why you think the model 300/400 barracudas are desperately in need of gigabit ethernet. In my experience with e-mail handling, the network interface has never been the bottleneck. An anti-spam/anti-virus box needs lots of RAM, CPU and HD IO bandwidth. This is what we are seeing with our cross-over sales from Cuda boxes coming over to Postini and some putting Postini in front of the Cuda box. Again the two services offer like services, but are still different. Postini is an easy product to offer as a reseller and our IT resellers who swap out 300/400 units for Postini tell us the box is a bottle neck. Just in our own office network, we have some fairly high-end computers and run different NAS units for continuous backups and failover mirrored directories. When we went from a 10/100 to a Gigabit network, it was a significant boost to productivity. I feel the same could be done for the Cuda box, because selling a box based on active users, IMO no longer fits their modeling. We have Postini clients with 200-300 users out gunning clients with 3 to 4 times the amount of users. With Postini, big or small, it does not matter. I wouldn't want to have to do much more non-RBL based scanning of mail with my two model 400s but that's not due to their choice of NIC. While I do have a few reservations about Barracuda Networks, it seems really weird to be slamming them for only having 100Mbps ethernet on their low end models. The CPU and RAM in the BSF model 400 and below could never deal with a full 100Mbps of traffic. E-mail traffic is less than 4% of our total network traffic. I would like to try a MailFoundry box because they seem to compare favorably to the BSFs at a slightly lower cost. But, users *hate* change and if the MailFoundry didn't work, there would be two changes. Users switch to other providers at the slightest hint that there might be a change coming. Users are strange. Also, I don't have enough issues with the BSFs to be that interested in spending time converting to another system. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http
Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda
Just a thought, unless you have a 600 or better unit, you are running 1x10/100 Ethernet on 100-400 units vs. 2xGigabit on to 600-1000 units, IMO creating a bottleneck even with low to moderate user accounts. This is where most of our cross-over sales are from, in the lower model units. With the amount of junk email flying around out there, even active user accounts under 250 are pulling in substantial amounts of junk and direct harvest attacks. Frank Muto www.secureemailplus.com - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda Kurt, What firmware are you running? How many emails are you filtering? Have you done a hard reboot on it lately? How many Spam emails are you killing per hour? Per day? (There is a Daily Traffic graph/email that tell you this) I know mine too (Cuda) is sluggish, but it's the amount of incoming spam that is bogging us down. We are getting hammered (and have been for months) by spam in excess of 500,000 per 24 hours. I will agree - Cuda is a PITA and we will begin testing with Jeremy Davis this week. He hosts the backend (web hosting, email, radius, Freeside...etc) for a bunch of other WISPs including SPAM filtering - My fingers are crossed and if you will holler at me off list later this week I will give you a report on how things are going. Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 11:00 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda Has anyone used this spam firewall? http://www.untangle.com http://www.untangle.com/ it is free to install on any server. I have a Barracuda SF200 and this thing is making me angry. It is so slow I don't even bother trying to log into it. It times out constantly and is so un-responsive. When it does work it takes a min of 30 seconds to change pages and that's when it is working properly. Its not overloaded I only got 200 email addresses and its rated for 500. I'm looking for anything this Barracuda junk is not worth the $500 year subscription when you can't even log into it. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.101 / Virus Database: 270.4.2/1523 - Release Date: 6/28/2008 7:00 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda
Since when does Postini require a 3-year commitment? IMO there is more to the Frontbridge saga and even Barracuda can not fix the hiccups of MS Exchange. Frank Muto Postini - Google Apps Distributor www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: John Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda Travis, because there is an element of control that you lose when you outsource. I have a client that got really upset when an email that was addressed to 3 companies only made it to one employee. Long story short, Frontbridge saw that the email came into their servers, but only one copy went out to 1 of the companies employees. This took *several* hours and 3 different Frontbridge employees to find out. If this client had been using a Barracuda, then there wouldn't have been a problem. Before you start to flame me, I know that you aren't supposed to use email in this manner, i.e. mission critical, time sensitive Purchase orders from Asia to the US, but this client did, and they were furious. Another reason I have a problem is that both Frontbridge and Postini *require* a 3 year commitment, and you may not have to pay up front, but once you sign on, they have you for 3 years. I have a BIG problem with any business that operates like that. In this instance, the cleint is now stuck with Frontbridge for 2 1/2 years, and their attitude when asked about a refund was tough, you agreed to a 3 year term, and we have your money. John Thomas Travis Johnson wrote: And on another thought... with that much junk mail, why not use a service that blocks the spam BEFORE it uses your bandwidth and resources? Like Postini... or others. Travis Microserv Frank Muto wrote: Just a thought, unless you have a 600 or better unit, you are running 1x10/100 Ethernet on 100-400 units vs. 2xGigabit on to 600-1000 units, IMO creating a bottleneck even with low to moderate user accounts. This is where most of our cross-over sales are from, in the lower model units. With the amount of junk email flying around out there, even active user accounts under 250 are pulling in substantial amounts of junk and direct harvest attacks. Frank Muto www.secureemailplus.com - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda Kurt, What firmware are you running? How many emails are you filtering? Have you done a hard reboot on it lately? How many Spam emails are you killing per hour? Per day? (There is a Daily Traffic graph/email that tell you this) I know mine too (Cuda) is sluggish, but it's the amount of incoming spam that is bogging us down. We are getting hammered (and have been for months) by spam in excess of 500,000 per 24 hours. I will agree - Cuda is a PITA and we will begin testing with Jeremy Davis this week. He hosts the backend (web hosting, email, radius, Freeside...etc) for a bunch of other WISPs including SPAM filtering - My fingers are crossed and if you will holler at me off list later this week I will give you a report on how things are going. Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 11:00 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda Has anyone used this spam firewall? http://www.untangle.com http://www.untangle.com/ it is free to install on any server. I have a Barracuda SF200 and this thing is making me angry. It is so slow I don't even bother trying to log into it. It times out constantly and is so un-responsive. When it does work it takes a min of 30 seconds to change pages and that's when it is working properly. Its not overloaded I only got 200 email addresses and its rated for 500. I'm looking for anything this Barracuda junk is not worth the $500 year subscription when you can't even log into it. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.101 / Virus Database: 270.4.2/1523 - Release Date: 6/28/2008 7:00 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda
Then you should be working with a reseller/distributor like us. Some of the services do require an annual fee, but none that require a minimum 3-year commitment. At 60k emails, plus using Exchange; you are at a whole different level of resources even with Barracuda, compared to the average service provider. Frank Muto Postini - Google Apps Distributor www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: John Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:54 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda Unless you know something I don't, all the quotes we have received from Postini require a 3 year commitment, with a minimum of 1 years payment up front. For my client that has 60,000 + emails coming into his Barracuda, his Exchange 2003 server is happily running along. John Thomas Frank Muto wrote: Since when does Postini require a 3-year commitment? IMO there is more to the Frontbridge saga and even Barracuda can not fix the hiccups of MS Exchange. Frank Muto Postini - Google Apps Distributor www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: John Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda Travis, because there is an element of control that you lose when you outsource. I have a client that got really upset when an email that was addressed to 3 companies only made it to one employee. Long story short, Frontbridge saw that the email came into their servers, but only one copy went out to 1 of the companies employees. This took *several* hours and 3 different Frontbridge employees to find out. If this client had been using a Barracuda, then there wouldn't have been a problem. Before you start to flame me, I know that you aren't supposed to use email in this manner, i.e. mission critical, time sensitive Purchase orders from Asia to the US, but this client did, and they were furious. Another reason I have a problem is that both Frontbridge and Postini *require* a 3 year commitment, and you may not have to pay up front, but once you sign on, they have you for 3 years. I have a BIG problem with any business that operates like that. In this instance, the cleint is now stuck with Frontbridge for 2 1/2 years, and their attitude when asked about a refund was tough, you agreed to a 3 year term, and we have your money. John Thomas Travis Johnson wrote: And on another thought... with that much junk mail, why not use a service that blocks the spam BEFORE it uses your bandwidth and resources? Like Postini... or others. Travis Microserv Frank Muto wrote: Just a thought, unless you have a 600 or better unit, you are running 1x10/100 Ethernet on 100-400 units vs. 2xGigabit on to 600-1000 units, IMO creating a bottleneck even with low to moderate user accounts. This is where most of our cross-over sales are from, in the lower model units. With the amount of junk email flying around out there, even active user accounts under 250 are pulling in substantial amounts of junk and direct harvest attacks. Frank Muto www.secureemailplus.com - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda Kurt, What firmware are you running? How many emails are you filtering? Have you done a hard reboot on it lately? How many Spam emails are you killing per hour? Per day? (There is a Daily Traffic graph/email that tell you this) I know mine too (Cuda) is sluggish, but it's the amount of incoming spam that is bogging us down. We are getting hammered (and have been for months) by spam in excess of 500,000 per 24 hours. I will agree - Cuda is a PITA and we will begin testing with Jeremy Davis this week. He hosts the backend (web hosting, email, radius, Freeside...etc) for a bunch of other WISPs including SPAM filtering - My fingers are crossed and if you will holler at me off list later this week I will give you a report on how things are going. Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 11:00 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda Has anyone used this spam firewall? http://www.untangle.com http://www.untangle.com/ it is free to install on any server. I have a Barracuda SF200 and this thing is making me angry. It is so slow I don't even bother trying to log into it. It times out constantly and is so un-responsive. When it does work it takes a min of 30 seconds to change pages and that's when it is working properly. Its not overloaded I only got 200 email addresses and its rated for 500. I'm looking for anything this Barracuda junk is not worth
Re: [WISPA] easy voip
Yes they do, and we all know how well that has worked for the industry. Secondly, they have limited coverage applying mostly to the metro areas. A sister company I work with offers the service, but has greater sales with ATA based providers offering expanded coverage. Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: Wes James [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] easy voip If you look at the TOS, it is ad-supported. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 2 Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] easy voip They seem to work fine. Not sure what the business plan is or how they can do this, but they are working. - Original Message - From: Patrick Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] easy voip There are at least two VoIP providers here that are WISPA vendor members. I am using one for my customers and would be happy to relate my experiences offlist. I'd encourage you to stay away from any software or PC based VoIP solutions and stick with ATAs. Patrick Shoemaker President, Vector Data Systems LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] office: (301) 358-1690 x36 mobile: (410) 991-5791 http://www.vectordatasystems.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] easy voip
I didn't say no rural, but for the most part, sales leads coming in have a higher percentage that do not have coverage. Frank - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] easy voip I dunno, we are rural and they have numbers out here... - Original Message - From: Frank Muto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] easy voip Yes they do, and we all know how well that has worked for the industry. Secondly, they have limited coverage applying mostly to the metro areas. A sister company I work with offers the service, but has greater sales with ATA based providers offering expanded coverage. Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: Wes James [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] easy voip If you look at the TOS, it is ad-supported. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 2 Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] easy voip They seem to work fine. Not sure what the business plan is or how they can do this, but they are working. - Original Message - From: Patrick Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] easy voip There are at least two VoIP providers here that are WISPA vendor members. I am using one for my customers and would be happy to relate my experiences offlist. I'd encourage you to stay away from any software or PC based VoIP solutions and stick with ATAs. Patrick Shoemaker President, Vector Data Systems LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] office: (301) 358-1690 x36 mobile: (410) 991-5791 http://www.vectordatasystems.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Email
Email does not have to be a money pit. Ever since our dialup days (97-02) we charged for email after the first account. Since 2003 email with spam filtering, Postini of course was an add-on charge. When the first major storms hit in mid-2005, all of our hosted accounts were put on AS/AV filtering and we charged for it. All of our web hosting with email are on Postini and we charge for it, or they bring their own. There is more to email now that there ever was and not just for junk mail filtering and viruses, with the latter not as much. Backup email services for continuity, compliance and retention services are now a must have instead of a nice have. Compliance and backup email services can be completely outsourced and can tie in nicely with your current services. I have IT shops that add message security services to their menu and are doing very well. Your local market is full of businesses needing these services, especially any business in the health and financial services, businesses in need of business continuity and others with just archiving needs or spam problems. Our largest clientele are those with Exchange servers, in-house or hosted. Our IT shops like I said before, tie in these additional email services and have less customer churn while increasing their average revenue per customer. Frank Muto Secure Email Plus Google Apps - Postini Distributor www.secureemailplus.com - Original Message - From: Doug Ratcliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email We charge $60/month for a domain with 10 or less addresses. We use Hmailserver with the built in antispam and it works very good, and is open source and free, runs on Windows. I do get some spam but the false negatives are so infrequent I don't check my spambox anymore. - Original Message - From: Ross Cornett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 11:54 AM Subject: [WISPA] Email Anyone charging for email sevices? We are spending lots on email servers and Postini Services... Anyone out there charging for email and if so how is it going? Thanks Ross WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: Qwest's DSL plans will make ISP's obsolete]
I can almost guarantee you that the contract had a regulatory clause killing it, and all it would have done was give the REP a 5 year commission. Typical Qwest tactic. Been there, done that. Frank - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: Qwest's DSL plans will make ISP's obsolete] Hi, This is really bad news. However, I have been telling my partners thiswas going to happen for almost 4 years now. Qwest used us little ISP'sto build up their network, and then they will just take it all away...and really there is nothing we can do. (My Qwest rep urged us to sign a 5 year deal on the Megahost serviceabout a year ago because he had heard there were things going on andthat the service may not be available in the next few years) I'm not sure how contacting Qwest people is going to do anything... myguess would be they will just laugh when they hang up the phone. Theyare about to own 100% of all the DSL customers that we have all builtfor them. :( TravisMicroserv George Rogato wrote: I received this email for assistance from Nick Voth, owner of Easy Street today. I'm sure there are many wisps who also offer DSL and may be affected and interested in what the future holds for you. So I'm passing this along for your benefit and I've included Nick Voth's email address for your convenience if you want to contact him directly. Original Message Subject: Qwest's DSL plans will make ISP's obsolete Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:43:20 -0600 From: Nick Voth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Nick Voth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello folks, I'm an owner of an Internet Service Provider in Denver, Colorado. If you haven't heard about the new Qwest Fiber to the Node product, you need to pay attention to this message and pass it along to others inside your company. Qwest is currently rolling out a new network that will become their primary way of delivering DSL to end users. It is a pure Ethernet based product and there is no mechanism yet to allow third party ISP's, (other than MSN), to provide service. We are already losing customers to it in Denver and there's no end in sight. It's a stated goal to make this product eventually replace the ATM based systems that we all know and enjoy. If nothing changes to allow other Internet providers to utilize the network, we will all be out of the DSL business or be forced to resell Qwest.net service. Here are the main problems we see as a third party ISP with losing control over the customer's data: - No control over IP space at all - No IP routing control - No Quality of Service for services like VPN or VoIP - No ability to monitor usage for bandwidth abuse, etc. - No ability to monitor traffic for viruses, attacks, etc. - No troubleshooting capabilities for network issues - No troubleshooting of connection troubles (authentication, etc.) - No control over rDNS (Reverse DNS for IP addresses) - No customer choice! (This will definitely drive customers to Comcast) - No margins for ISP's after circuit and Qwest.net fees (in reseller model) - Qwest.net not invisible even in wholesale environment because of IP's In short, this product will be a catastrophe to all third party ISP's because it will eventually put us out of business. I urge you to contact your Qwest representatives as soon as possible and make it clear to them how important this is. Here is a list of the most important players, (as far as I can tell): Larry Canavan (not in a position to help, but a really nice guy) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Molly Clemen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-4501 Office 612-807-7645 - Cell Matt Rotter [EMAIL PROTECTED] I understand these are the current product managers: Travis Leo 303-308-5284 Frank Simonson 303-308-5040 Also, make sure to participate in any conference call to ISP's that may be coming up. If we don't make our voices heard, Qwest will make their decisions without us. Sincerely, -Nick Voth - Nick Voth President E Street Communications http://www.estreet.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] 303-584-0640 x 1001 - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] The best Firewall - for the money
How else are they managing there compliance with HIPPA for the office and remote location? Not that you need to be the expert, but for those of us managing some of our clients communications, there may be a time to brush up on this topic. Frank Muto www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: Ron Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] The best Firewall - for the money Yes, you are right David, it was not specific. They need to protect their Medicial Billing Records, Patient info as well as critical info about their own business from Hackers who might discover thier business, damage some of the billing and medical data, or cause a failure in their system. Worst case would be to publish patient medical Records data, this has happened before and HHS and the Attorneys freak out, and so therefore do the Docs. Outside Access requirement is only for the Doc's wife to access the Billing System (SW) to enable work from home. I appreciate anything you are willing to share. And your pointing out the vagueness of the request was insightful, thanks very much. Ron Wallace Hahnron, Inc. 220 S. Jackson Dt. Addison, MI 49220 Phone: (517)547-8410 Mobile: (517)605-4542 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: David E. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 06:48 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] The best Firewall - for the money I have a small Medical practice that has requested a firewall for their LAN. Which would you all recommend? Price rane below $1000, Doc woule prefer $500. That's incredibly vague. What do they need to protect, from whom, and what if any outside access should be permitted? This could be as simple as a $50 Linksys router, or as complicated as a mid-range Cisco PIX (last I looked those still were in the $700-ish range). Answering the question properly will require quite a bit more information. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Microsoft offers to buy Yahoo
History is repeating itself from 2000-'01, except we have the housing subprime financial issue instead of an Enron, MCI et al implosion. Frank Muto FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Postini Gold Partner www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 7:01 AM Subject: [WISPA] Microsoft offers to buy Yahoo http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/feb08/02-01CorpNewsPR.mspx http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/feb08/02-01CorpNewsMA.mspx Microsoft Proposes Acquisition of Yahoo! for $31 per Share Transaction valued at approximately $44.6 billion in cash and stock; provides 62 percent premium to current trading price for Yahoo! shareholders; combined entity to create a more competitive company, providing superior value to shareholders, better choice and innovation for customers and partners REDMOND, Wash. - Feb. 1, 2008 - Microsoft Corp. (NASDAQ:MSFT) today announced that it has made a proposal to the Yahoo! Inc. (NASDAQ:YHOO) Board of Directors to acquire all the outstanding shares of Yahoo! common stock for per share consideration of $31 representing a total equity value of approximately $44.6 billion. Microsoft's proposal would allow the Yahoo! shareholders to elect to receive cash or a fixed number of shares of Microsoft common stock, with the total consideration payable to Yahoo! shareholders consisting of one-half cash and one-half Microsoft common stock. The offer represents a 62 percent premium above the closing price of Yahoo! common stock on Jan. 31, 2008. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FCC Puts Rural Broadband On The Front Burner
Earlier today, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) announced two new joint initiatives to push the continued buildout of U.S. rural broadband networks. First, the two are launching an online resource for those in rural America looking to bring the benefits of broadband services to their communities. As such, the Broadband Opportunities for Rural America Web site (http://wireless.fcc.gov/outreach/ruralbroadband) offers the expertise and resources of the FCC and USDA in a single, easily-accessible location and user-friendly format. The new site also provides information on the different technology platforms that can be used to provide broadband service, how to access spectrum necessary for delivery of wireless broadband services, government funding for broadband services, relevant FCC and USDA proceedings and initiatives, and data on broadband deployment. In addition, there are instructions on how to locate companies already licensed to provide wireless services in or near specific rural communities as well as links to other government and private resources related to encouraging broadband opportunities in rural America. In addition, the FCC and the USDA plan to conduct four educational workshops focused on rural broadband during the course of this year. In these forums, communities and organizations in rural America will be able to learn about the resources, programs, and policies of the FCC and USDA regarding broadband technology. Topics will include: The different technology platforms used to provide broadband services, USDA funding for broadband deployment, the FCC's Rural Health Care Pilot program, and wireless spectrum access. Participating communities and organizations also will be encouraged to share their experiences about broadband deployment in rural and hard-to-reach areas. The workshops, held in each of the four regions of the country - Northeast/Mid-Atlantic, South/Midwest, Central, and West - are set for the following places and dates: Blacksburg, Va. (April 30); Saginaw, Mich. (June 19); Austin, Texas (Sept. 18); and Phoenix (Nov. 20). Those interested in attending must register with the FCC no later than Feb. 25. Source: http://www.telecomweb.com/tnd/259766.html Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Postini Gold Partner www.SecureEmailPlus.com 800-246-7740 - Toll Free 630-258-7422 - Direct WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT......Question
I just bought a nice Systemax from Tiger Direct with XP and it includes a Vista Business upgrade license. It has plenty of room for expansion and the 2 Firewire ports work nice with the external storage HDD I use for backups for extra speed over USB. The Systemax Venture comes with a Dual Core Intel Core 2 Quad processor, a 500GB SATA II hard drive, and 2GB of DDR2 PC6400 RAM, on a D975XBX motherboard. Plus a 20x DVD±RW dual layer dvd/cd burner, a DVD-ROM/CD burner Combo Drive, flash card reader,7.1 channel audio, gigabit LAN, GeForce 8800GTS 320MB video card. $1500.00 and 3-year PL On-site warranty. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2967394CatId=6 Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: Jeff Broadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 7:01 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT..Question Is it still possible to buy a new computer and use XP? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 6:23 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question Games. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jonathan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 7:38 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT..Question We've standardized on XP/PRO SP2 for the office. We tried Vista and, although some fanatics show it can be a bit but definitely slower, that's not meaningful. The computers, themselves, suffer intractable problems with Vista with less than 2G memory, but with that memory or more, it's OK. (Why it becomes unstable under 2Gb is the subject of wild, physical arguments). We haven't had driver problems. We have had significantly more hang-ups with Vista. Not many, but perhaps 50% more. The GUI is, perhaps, more intuitive but it splits functionality that was, in XP, in one place into several far flung places. It may make more sense but drives the old folks (over 20 years old) crazy. The reallocation of facilities that were in XP-HOME and XP-PRO into fragmented pieces within an array of options of Vista upgrades is driving the support guys nuts. Ordinary users who had a handle on XP are now calling support. The removal of OUTLOOK 2007 from Student/Teacher 2007 meant that folks with a teacher wife and student kids can't use it for work. That just makes people mad at Microsoft. Since we stick with Lenovo/IBM for laptops, etc., we can still order XP/PRO (at a small cost). It doesn't appear that VISTA was a good business/technical decision on Microsoft's part but I'm sure it will pay off through the sales of new PCs. It's not the end of the world...it just appears dumb...really dumb. It turns out that Macintosh computers with Microsoft Office have been more and more popular and we accept that for our system. They have caused no problems...perhaps because the Mac-fanatics stick together and aggressively help each other the way early PC users used to do. There are only a tiny fraction of PC users that utilize applications that aren't available on Macintosh as the same or better. That argument doesn't fly anymore. . . . J o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 7:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question Hi, Every single test out there shows Vista is SLOWER on an identical machine running XP. Why would I upgrade to an OS that is slower? Travis Microserv Mike Hammett wrote: Agreed. This happens with every OS release... It's OH SO HORRIBLE... but then in a year or so, everyone forgets their fabricated fears. I've been using Vista for about 4 months and have 0 issues with Vista itself. Sure, I've had problems with vendors who are slow to update software\drivers, but that's not Microsoft's fault... that's the fault of lazy vendors *cough* DELL *cough*. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question In a message dated 12/9/2007 11:25:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: dreaded MS Vista Why is everyone so down on Vista? I have been using it for a long time, starting with the Beta Version-now using the Ultimate Version, without problems [laptops and PC's]. I think it is more a learning curve with so many changes from the earlier versions. Vista is here to stay and you should be learning it-not going backwards. Walter W. Stumpf Jr. Xanadu Group Inc. 179 Statesville Quarry Road Lafayette NJ 07848-3128 USA 973-702-3899 fax 775-667-1995
Re: [WISPA] CALEA
I have a question though you may or may be able to answer it. In point 1, you said you gave the LEA information on how to word their subpoena? Was this knowledge based on an attorneys consult? I'll assume it may have been unless you are an attorney yourself. Secondly, why would an attorney or anyone provide legal consult to the LEA? The DOJ has all the required information any LEA needs to obtain the information they need in an investigation. Most of it is basically fill in the blank and the forms have multiple QA to write up the subpoena. Having gone through enough of this over the past couple years, I have doubts that helping an LEA is in your best interest. How do you warrant or have legal standing on telling an LEA that their subpoena does not have the correct information for the request? It is up to the LEA to get the proper legal consult they need when writing up a subpoena and or warrant to present to the court. Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc - Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Wispa List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 3:57 AM Subject: [WISPA] CALEA I just wanted to make a brief post relating a few experiences relating to the CALEA scare that was recently the talk of the town (so to speak). I should preface this post with a bit of information that will give some insight into how common (or not) law enforcement will or will not use CALEA to get information from you/us. I have about 225 customers in my database. I work on a regular basis for about 15-20 of those each week. Since April, I have worked 4 cases with my customers (actually, it was 6, but 3 were related) that were filed as CALEA actions. Of these cases, 3 of my customers were using Mikrotik and 1 was using ImageStream. I can't reveal anything related to the cases, but I wanted to help people understand what kind of information we are being asked for under CALEA, and what that translates to in terms of capability requirements. 1. The first subpeona wanted to know who had a specific IP at a certain time and date. That was all that was requested. This particular WISP has about 450 customers, and about 225 of those are using private IPs that are natted at the border. It so happened that the IP we were requested information about was the NAT IP. I called the officer who had requested the data and explained the situation to him. After an hour or so, he understood that there is nothing we could do without more information. The case was an ongoing thing, and he was tracking contact to a specific website, so we were able to determine a specific customer who was using that website. We did not tell the officer who it was, but we DID explain how he needed to word his subpoena so that we COULD get him what he wanted. After he got the legal jargon to match the technical requirements of our capabilities, we were able to capture and provide him with the communications he was needing. 2. The next 3 were related to one another (sort of). In this case, the subpeona asked for customer billing records and login information for the past year for 3 IP addresses. We had part of this information (this WISP used public IP addresses for all his customers). Since the subpeona requested historical information, we were somewhat limited in what we could provide, but we did get the required information and LEA was happy. 3. The other 2 were not related but were similar. They asked for telephone information that the targets made between a couple of dates in the past. Since the WISPs in both cases were not the provider of the VoIP (they were just the transport) service, we explained to the LEA that the information they are seeking would not be available at the WISP, eventually they went elsewhere for their information (I guess), but the WISPs, in the end, did not provide ANY customer data to the LEA. The point I am making here is that all of the information requested in all 3 cases, was easily obtainable using equipment available within the WISP networks already. We used information that the Mikrotik and/or Imagestream enabled us to gather, log files and RADIUS logs to gather login information and capturing of data along with their business records to answer all 6 subpeonas (7 if you count the one that had to be re-done). In all cases, the law enforcement officer who was our first contact was not technically capable of understanding what they wanted/needed, but without fail, there WERE people at the agencies involved who were. Of these subpeonas, 3 were from the FBI, 2 were local LE and 1 was homeland security. Incidentally, none of these WISPs spent any extra money to be compliant (other than some legal work that had to be done). Billing for my time cost less than $350 (much less in some cases) to help gather necessary information. All of these (I think) ended up billing these costs to the LEA and as far as I know
[WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire scrap WiMax deal
Sprint and Clearwire scrapped a pact to build a nationwide high-speed wireless network based on WiMax. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119457536653487513.html The two companies signed a letter of intent in July to pursue the partnership, which they hoped to finalize within 60 days. But the complexities of the transaction and the departure last month of Gary Forsee as Sprint's chief executive officer made it too difficult to reach a final pact, the people say. The unraveling of the preliminary agreement is a blow to Clearwire. The company, founded by cellphone pioneer Craig McCaw, has staked its future on WiMax, a longer-range cousin of Wi-Fi that can theoretically provide wireless broadband access from laptops and cellphones at speeds comparable to what cable operators provide. Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc www.secureemailplus.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] The RuralTeleCon'07 Oct. 14-17
http://www.rtcconference.org For those not going to ISPCON and are in Illinois, you may want to consider this conference. It's $350 through September, 30th, $400 thereafter. The FCC will be there, though I do not know who is attending. Anyone from WISPA in Illinois not going to ISPCON should think about attending. Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Postini Gold Partner www.secureemailplus.com ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?
We use Handy Back Up as well and have been very pleased with it. Actually as someone else said they now use WinZip over HBU, we use both depending on the job at hand. The sync feature on HBU works great for linking files from desktop to laptop or mirroring external storage drives. http://www.handybackup.net/ Another backup program we use is NTI's Shadow for real time or scheduled backups. I like the real time backup when working with regular daily files, which are saved to external storage drives each time the file changes. We also use NTI's Backup Now and Drive Backup. http://www.ntius.com Frank Muto FSM Marketing Group, Inc www.secureemailplus.com - Original Message - From: rabbtux rabbtux [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marlon, have a link for it? On 9/20/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We use handy backup. It's not really popular yet. We may be over charging for space. The bitch of it is that people could totally screw our network up with all of the backups, even if they backup to our servers! Marlon - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] All I can say is that we have been doing off site remote backups for several years - for many Gov't facilities, personal business and even a few individuals. We chose this: http://remote-backup.com/ software and it has been the greatest, most trouble free software I have ever used. Not one moment's trouble in years. Mac ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?
HBU uses Blowfish, Cobian 8 has RSA-Rijndael or Blowfish or even WinZIP AES to encrypt on their side and keep it stored encrypted on our remote server. If it's stored unencrypted on our server, that's their problem since all we are doing is holding it for them. If they want a redundant copy of their data stored, we can do that too. Frank - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 7:23 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers? I think the real question I would ask - - going over a wireless link is: WHERE THE HECK IS THE SECURITY? I mean you are going to back up someone's books with no (encryption) (like blowfish) security? I am not talking WEP either! What about restoring the client's data? Is that something that that will take intervention on your part? How about the client's ability to access his backups 24/7 in case of emergency reinstall? Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Muto Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 2:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers? We use Handy Back Up as well and have been very pleased with it. Actually as someone else said they now use WinZip over HBU, we use both depending on the job at hand. The sync feature on HBU works great for linking files from desktop to laptop or mirroring external storage drives. http://www.handybackup.net/ Another backup program we use is NTI's Shadow for real time or scheduled backups. I like the real time backup when working with regular daily files, which are saved to external storage drives each time the file changes. We also use NTI's Backup Now and Drive Backup. http://www.ntius.com Frank Muto FSM Marketing Group, Inc www.secureemailplus.com - Original Message - From: rabbtux rabbtux [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marlon, have a link for it? On 9/20/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We use handy backup. It's not really popular yet. We may be over charging for space. The bitch of it is that people could totally screw our network up with all of the backups, even if they backup to our servers! Marlon - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] All I can say is that we have been doing off site remote backups for several years - for many Gov't facilities, personal business and even a few individuals. We chose this: http://remote-backup.com/ software and it has been the greatest, most trouble free software I have ever used. Not one moment's trouble in years. Mac --- - ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA
Re: [WISPA] McDonalds
It could depend if you are talking about a franchisee or corp store. Wayport from what I remember took the prize back in 2004 and beyond to provide Wi-Fi. That's who we bucked up against back then. Working with McD's is never easy, even with inside help. Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Postini Gold Partner - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 1:05 PM Subject: [WISPA] McDonalds I have been contacted by more than one entity wanting me to sell Internet service to a McDonalds location. Both claim to really be the one that their client (McDonalds, their hotspot aggregator, etc.) prefers to work with. Does anyone know what really is going on here, perhaps experiences you have had in providing service to a McDonalds? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Need Service in the following areas
I'll assume these are franchisees and no, they will not pay T1 prices... been there done that, long story. Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Postini Gold Partner - Original Message - From: Brad Belton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 11:11 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Need Service in the following areas McD's!! Sheesh, don't sell yourself short. If they want to be an ISP then they need to pay for a T1 and pay T1 prices. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Wu Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 8:47 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Need Service in the following areas Let me know (OFFLIST) if you might be able to service these areas...looking at $99-150 / month basic business plans (for WiFi hotspots) 2230 SOUTH SHERMAN DRIVE INDIANAPOLIS IN 46203-4854 2830 NORTH BROADWAY ANDERSON IN 46012 1492 EAST 82ND STREET MERRILLVILLE IN 46410-6324 8834 W STATE RD 114 RENSSELAER IN 47978 4044 E. SOUTHPORT ROAD INDIANAPOLIS IN 46227 1033 N. MAIN CLOVERDALE IN 46120-9706 450 HWY 231 S JASPER IN 47547 3429 S. MAIN STREET ELKHART IN 46517-3125 3000 HWY 62 ALLISON LANE JEFFERSONVILLE IN 47130-5902 14243 FRONTAGE RD CAMBRIDGE CITY IN 47327-9802 115 S ROSENBERGER AVE EVANSVILLE IN 47712-5900 533 W MAIN ST BUTLER IN 46721-1348 2633 SOUTH ST RD 46 TERRE HAUTE IN 47803 1051 N LUTHER RD GEORGETOWN IN 47122 3940 E STATE BLVD FORT WAYNE IN 46805-4949 2363 HWY 135 NW (W*M #922) CORYDON IN 47112 21879 STATE ROAD 120 ELKHART IN 46514 5918 STATE RD 43 N WEST LAFAYETTE IN 47906-9609 633 W MAIN ST WESTFIELD IN 46074-9498 940 INDIANAPOLIS ST GREENCASTLE IN 46135 4130 NEWTON ST JASPER IN 47546 5935 MADISON AV INDIANAPOLIS IN 46227 4376 N ST RD 59 BRAZIL IN 47834 243 Melton RD BURNS HARBOR IN 46304 13615 Blue Lick Road Memphis IN 47143 2310 W 75TH ST WOODRIDGE IL 60517 2700 CREGO RD (OASIS) DEKALB IL 60115 3000 E 10TH STREET JEFFERSONVILLE IN 47130 533 W MAIN ST BUTLER IN 46721 1051 N LUTHER RD GEORGETOWN IN 47122 3940 E STATE BLVD FORT WAYNE IN 46805 633 W MAIN ST WESTFIELD IN 46074 5918 State Road HWY 43 N WEST LAFAYETTE IN 47906 --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FCC Says White-Space Spectrum Device Doesn't Work
FCC Says White-Space Spectrum Device Doesn't Work, Techdirt, 8/8/2007 A gaggle of tech companies, led by Google and Microsoft, have been pushing the FCC to open up the white space spectrum -- open airwaves in between those used by TV broadcasts -- for use by electronic devices and broadband services. http://techdirt.com/articles/20070807/114424.shtml Frank Muto FSM Marketing Group, Inc. www.SecureEmailPlus.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ohio State-wide broadband network
9. I signed this Executive Order on July 26, 2007 in Columbus, Ohio and it will expire on my last day as Governor of Ohio unless rescinded before then. So what happens after that? Do you potentially build a business service on an executive order rather than legislative law? Frank Muto FSM Marketing Group, Inc. www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 8:54 AM Subject: [WISPA] Ohio State-wide broadband network http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/01/2214205from=rss In order to coordinate and expand access to the state's broadband data network, Ohio Governor Ted Strickland has signed an executive order establishing the Ohio Broadband Council and the Broadband Ohio Network. The order directs the Ohio Broadband Council to coordinate efforts to extend access to the Broadband Ohio Network to every county in Ohio. The order allows public and private entities to tap into the Broadband Ohio Network - all with a goal of expanding access to high-speed internet service in parts of the state that presently don't have such service. --- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technology Services - WISP Consulting - Tower Services WEB: http://www.mtin.net WEB: http://www.metrospan.net WEB: http://www.findfastinternet.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Sprint Nextel and Clearwire
Sprint Nextel and Clearwire have announced that they will jointly construct their WiMAX networks and eventually sell the services jointly under one brand. The deal still needs to gain approval by the Department of Justice and the FCC because the companies plan on exchanging selected 2.5 GHz spectrum license assignments. Under the network build-out plan, Sprint Nextel will focus its efforts primarily on geographic areas covering approximately 185 million people, including 75 percent of the people located in the 50 largest markets, while Clearwire will focus on areas covering approximately 115 million people. Initially, the two companies expect to build out network coverage to approximately 100 million people by the end of 2008, with seamless roaming enabled between the deployed areas. Our joint efforts will result in customers benefiting from a more extensive network, operating sooner and using our respective spectrum more efficiently than either company could have on its own, said Clearwire Chief Executive Officer Ben Wolff. The companies will sell services under one brand and Clearwire will sell subscriptions to the service at Sprint locations within Clearwire's territories. Sprint plans to provide dual-mode (CDMA-WiMAX) services nationwide to its customers both on its own and Clearwire's portion of the WiMAX networks. http://www.fiercewireless.com/press-releases/press-release-sprint-nextel-clearwire-partner-expand-deployment-first-nationwide-mobi Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google Buys Postini
It was this, or Google taking the risk of paying more after an IPO. There has been talk of a Postini IPO the past few months and since Google already was using Postini from a deal a few months ago, this perhaps was the next logical step. Google is only offering the Enterprise Edition so this does not effect those already offering Postini through an ISP, Webhost, VAR or MSP. In fact I anticipate an increase awareness of Postini and for our resellers as well. We offer both the Service Provider and Enterprise Editions' and also pair them either with our hosted email or ala carte. Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Postini Partner www.SecureEmailPlus.com Hosted Email - IMAP, POP3 Web Mail 2.0 Toll Free - 800-246-7740 Direct - 630-258-7422 - Original Message - From: Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/07/09/ap3893605.html Google Inc. said Monday it agreed to buy Postini, which provides security software for electronic communications, for $625 million in cash. Google (nasdaq: GOOG http://finapps.forbes.com/finapps/jsp/finance/compinfo/CIAtAGlance.jsp?tkr= GOOG - news http://www.forbes.com/markets/company_news.jhtml?ticker=GOOG - people http://www.forbes.com/peopletracker/results.jhtml?startRow=0name=ticker=G OOG ) plans to operate the company as a subsidiary in its Google Apps unit, which includes its e-mail, calendar and documents applications. --- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Macquarie Buys U.S. Wireless Tower Company
Macquarie Buys U.S. Wireless Tower Company Shu-Ching Jean Chen, 07.02.07, 2:49 AM ET HONG KONG - Macquarie, Australia's largest investment bank, is making inroads into the large yet underdeveloped wireless telecom infrastructure market in the U.S., agreeing to buy the wireless tower operator Global Tower Group for 1.7 billion Australian dollars ($1.43 billion) from Blackstone Group. Since its founding in 2003 by real estate and telecom entrepreneur Marc C. Ganzi, Global Tower has built a portfolio of 2,500 signal-relay towers and 4,600 rooftop sites across the U.S. and Puerto Rico, securing long-term leases from property owners. Some 86.5% of its leases are for longer than 15 years and 89% are unburdened by complicated revenues-sharing arrangements. The U.S. mobile telecom industry's Big Four - T-Mobile from Deutsche Telekom, Verizon, Sprint Nextel and ATT - will account for about 63% of Global Tower's revenue following the completion of ATT's acquisition of Dobson Communications, a major Global Tower customer. With a relatively low rate of adoption of advanced wireless services such as 3G, Wi-Fi and Wimax, the U.S. is seen as having potential to be a high-growth market. The U.S. has a penetration rate of 77% for these services, behind the U.K.'s 117%, Sweden's 110%, Taiwan's 102%, Australia's 95% and Japan's 78%. Through this acquisition, Macquarie Communications Group has gained a timely position in a familiar industry in the attractive U.S. market, said Scott Davies, CEO of Macquarie Communications. Macquarie Infrastructure Partners will hold 56.2% of Global Tower and Macquarie Communications Infrastructure Group will take 28.7%. Davies added that Global Tower would complement with its existing North American assets bases of satellite dish facilities in Los Angeles and Washington operated by its subsidiary Arquiva, a British wireless telecom services provider of broadcast towers, teleports, and wireless infrastructure. There are 115,000 wireless towers in the U.S. operated by a disparate range of companies, but 45% are now in the hands of three companies: Global Tower and its rivals Crown Castle International and SBA Communications, according to Macquarie. The weighted average remaining ground lease term in the industry is a staggering 24 years. Such long lease terms pose high entry barriers to new entrants who do not go in via acquisitions. The acquisition, when completed, would account for a small 3% share of Macquarie Communications' EBITDA and would not affect its existing dividend distribution guidance of about 10% growth for fiscal years of 2008 and 2009 and between 5% and 10% for 2010. Best Regards, Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Postini Partner www.SecureEmailPlus.com Hosted Email - IMAP, POP3 Web Mail 2.0 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] ATT Buys Rural Wireless Provider - Dobson
AP Shares of Dobson Communications Corp. were on pace to open at an all-time high Monday after ATT Inc. agreed to buy the rural wireless provider for $2.8 billion. ATT said Friday it will pay $13 per share for Dobson, adding 1.7 million subscribers to its network of 62 million. Dobson shares closed at $11.11 Friday, making ATT's offer a 17-percent premium. The stock rose $1.44, or 13 percent, to $12.55 in premarket electronic trading. Analyst Mike McCormack of Bear Stearns approved of the deal. Though the acquisition will have limited financial impact on ATT, we believe the acquisition makes strategic sense given the reasonable valuation and lack of network overlap, he said. JPMorgan analyst Thomas J. Lee said shares of other rural carriers, including Rural Cellular Corp., SunCom Wireless Holdings Inc. and Centennial Communications Corp., would rise on the news. ATT shares rose 15 cents to $41.65 premarket, up from Friday's close at $41.50. Dobson shares reached an all-time high of $11.34 Thursday Frank Muto FSM Marketing Group, Inc. www.SecureEmailPlus.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC Public Notice
For those interested in how easy the process is, the FCC has a good amount of information available. Electronic Comment Filing System - http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/ecfs/ Frank Muto Co-founder - Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA www.wbia.us - Original Message - From: michael mulcay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 4:53 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] FCC Public Notice Felix, Yes, a Citizen at Large can provide comment and the concept of public-private networks with WISPs would make a very powerful argument in support. Thanks Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Felix A. Lopez Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 9:52 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Public Notice Mike - Can Citizens at Large provide comment too? I am involved in volunteer wireless project for a local school district in my area. The CTO is always seeking ways to do wireless on a limited budget. We already have problems with interference in a confined urban space and hypothesized a licenced 802.16 with a local WiSP network would help define a public-private network for the students. It is just hypothetical but I can see the reasoning in support of comments for this declaration at the FCC. Any thoughts apreciated. Felix Wireless Practioneer --- michael mulcay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last week the FCC1 issued a Public Notice seeking comments on Wireless Strategies request for a declaratory ruling regarding (concurrent) coordination of microwave links under Part 101 of the Commission's rules. The amount of microwave spectrum is finite and it is in everyone's interest to seek ways to increase the effective use the existing spectrum. Unfortunately, there may be those who have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo and who will attempt to stifle innovation. Innovation is one of the few ways that small companies can compete with large established companies and that is why we believe this is a one time opportunity for WISPs to join the big league as regards the ability to obtain licensed spectrum which can support low cost 802.16-based (WiMax) equipment with small antenna elements to provide licensed backhaul and broadband services to hundreds of additional subscribers, through frequency reuse without causing any additional harmful interference. It would be a great help if WISPA as a group and individual WISPs file comments in support of the request for a declaratory ruling, especially as there is everything to gain and nothing to lose. The Comment deadline is July 19, 2007. Comments can be filed via the FCC's ECFS or by regular mail. Details are on the FCC's web site. Thanks in advance, Mike 1. FCC links: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-07-2697A1.doc http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-07-2697A1.pdf http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-07-2697A1.txt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Adelstein backs Open Access 700
Supporting open-access and the ability to do something about it, are two different things coming out of the mouth of an FCC Commissioner. Both Cmr's Adelstein and Copps provided all kinds of support for open competition and a level playing field for wholesale line-sharing, where are we now? You still have a Republican FCC and with the Presidential election just around the corner, it's politics galore so get used to it during the next 16 months. Are you really ready for the Politics of it all? Frank Muto Co-founder - Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA www.wbia.us - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 12:16 PM Subject: [WISPA] Adelstein backs Open Access 700 Commissioner Jonathan Adelstein, a Democrat, said he supports the idea of imposing an open-access condition on companies bidding to acquire part of the spectrum. http://www.reuters.com/article/governmentFilingsNews/idUSN2018478420070620 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dues Value was What is WISPA?
That is going to take a whole lot of $25 a month membership dues. I highly suggest contacting COMPTEL and get some mentoring on what it will take to get WISPA to the level that Matt has described here. I would be happy to team up some potential people to talk to over there. COMPTEL has been a good friend of the WBIA and helped us a great deal in our beginning. It is all going to take funding. I would highly recommend a strong membership drive starting with next weeks ISPCON and any other industry conference WISP related. WISPs themselves need to understand, that their $25 monthly contributions are an INVESTMENT for their FUTURE and also provides them a contributory voice within the organization. I would also hit up the vendors of the products and services all WISPs use. Without WISPs and their growing numbers, they will limit they own sales channels. There are plenty of no-to-low cost things to do as well as those that will take some cash to do so. In any event, there is no longer a free ride that can be assumed and if this organization is to grow to the level it needs to be, it needs people and funding to do so. As others have said, what is WISPA doing to sell itself? Yes, that is an important mechanism of running an organization that needs contributory funding to work. For the most part, marketing, advertising, PR etc., has not been a strong suite for xISPs. So for this to happen, WISPA needs to step outside the peering ranks of WISPs and get a PR person/firm involved to drive membership and create the buzz of what WISPA is all about, what they are doing and what they have accomplished. Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Co-founder - Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dues Value was What is WISPA? I know you didn't ask me, but that has never stopped me from speaking up. I want WISPA to spend its time and money primarily on spectrum issues. I like to see the organization meet with the FCC on a regular basis, publish position papers, and comment on every FCC issue that impacts us. I'd also like to see it issue a press release on the wires every time it does so. Whatever size this industry actual is much larger than it is perceived to be. WISPA needs to change that. -Matt Peter R. wrote: Chadd, Lonnie, and the rest, It is obviously a sales issue: No one has sold you on the value of WISPA. Or WISPA is not solving some pain you have. How about you tell us what would be good value? What specifically are you looking for the organization to do for you? This is a good time (pre-election). - Peter -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dues Value was What is WISPA?
Which is true, but they have been around a long time and part of several merged associations. You need to start somewhere and by looking COMPTEL as a model, you can form a basis on how WISPA can improve. They also have a CEO council made up within COMPTEL as a separate entity. Let's look at this in a smaller scale. If you have 1k WISPs paying $25 a month, it adds up... that's $25k monthly. Now let's say you up it to $50, now you are at $50k. Now with those examples, the next issue you will get is the moans on what WISPA is doing with the money. Everyone will be on the bandwagon on what to do with the funding. So, unless the group matures and growth is established organically with the understanding that WISPs all WISPs must join together and show solidarity to those that they are working for, it does not matter what the cost is. Frank Muto - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] One thing of interest that COMPTEL does is charge a different membership fee based upon the revenue of the member. In other words, companies with more revenue pay higher membership fees. -Matt Frank Muto wrote: That is going to take a whole lot of $25 a month membership dues. I highly suggest contacting COMPTEL and get some mentoring on what it will take to get WISPA to the level that Matt has described here. I would be happy to team up some potential people to talk to over there. COMPTEL has been a good friend of the WBIA and helped us a great deal in our beginning. It is all going to take funding. I would highly recommend a strong membership drive starting with next weeks ISPCON and any other industry conference WISP related. WISPs themselves need to understand, that their $25 monthly contributions are an INVESTMENT for their FUTURE and also provides them a contributory voice within the organization. I would also hit up the vendors of the products and services all WISPs use. Without WISPs and their growing numbers, they will limit they own sales channels. There are plenty of no-to-low cost things to do as well as those that will take some cash to do so. In any event, there is no longer a free ride that can be assumed and if this organization is to grow to the level it needs to be, it needs people and funding to do so. As others have said, what is WISPA doing to sell itself? Yes, that is an important mechanism of running an organization that needs contributory funding to work. For the most part, marketing, advertising, PR etc., has not been a strong suite for xISPs. So for this to happen, WISPA needs to step outside the peering ranks of WISPs and get a PR person/firm involved to drive membership and create the buzz of what WISPA is all about, what they are doing and what they have accomplished. Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Co-founder - Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dues Value was What is WISPA? I know you didn't ask me, but that has never stopped me from speaking up. I want WISPA to spend its time and money primarily on spectrum issues. I like to see the organization meet with the FCC on a regular basis, publish position papers, and comment on every FCC issue that impacts us. I'd also like to see it issue a press release on the wires every time it does so. Whatever size this industry actual is much larger than it is perceived to be. WISPA needs to change that. -Matt Peter R. wrote: Chadd, Lonnie, and the rest, It is obviously a sales issue: No one has sold you on the value of WISPA. Or WISPA is not solving some pain you have. How about you tell us what would be good value? What specifically are you looking for the organization to do for you? This is a good time (pre-election). - Peter -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] $25 is cheap insurance... Was: What is WISPA? was Promotion of services on-list
- Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Folks, don't join WISPA because of what WISPA can do for you. That's not what WISPA is about. Oh sure, we do what we can when we can, but the MAIN focus of WISPA is that of improving the OVERALL industry. We're focused on better rules, better laws, better training etc. We didn't form WISPA so that we could give you equipment discounts, free legal advice, insurance discounts, etc. The day will come when those things are all possible, but it'll take large membership numbers to get there. Now this is spot on. WISPA is an ADVOCATE for the WISP industry. It should never become, IMO an association buying group. Sure vendors may look at WISPA as a market channel and wish to support it with paid advertisements and sponsorships. But, unless there is enough accountable (not made up numbers)membership they may not care to support the organization. As a former dialup ISP/Web-host, I know where most of you stand. I am supporting WISPA because I feel the WISP may be the last-stand against total extinction of the Independent Service Provider. Sure there is still dialup and some are able to provide cable/DSL broadband, but nowhere in the numbers we were during the dialup years. The WISP has the opportunity to create and maintain a viable last-mile alternative to the RBOC's and CableCo's. One thing that WISP's have going is that are talking the FCC's language, RF's! They understand this better than they do the competitive tension that came with the 96 Telco Act. The WISP's having an Advocate such as WISPA is very welcome in D.C. and that is why these baby step meetings and working the CALEA issue is so, so very important that WISPA has the FULL SUPPORT of the Industry. Paying $25 a month to get a voice at the table of those that can SHUT you down, rather quickly, is cheap insurance of that possibly happening. Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc www.SecureEmailPlus.com ISPCON Spring 2007 May 23-25 in Orlando, FL. LaunchPad Pavilion J -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
As a PAYING supporting vendor of WISPA and co-sponsor for ISPCON, I take offense to this direct marketing of a competitive service. Last I looked on the WISPA website, neither Barracuda or Alaska Wireless Systems had a logo displayed, unless you are a paid associate vendor. Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc Postini Partner Reseller www.SecureEmailPlus.com ISPCON Spring 2007 May 23-25 in Orlando, FL. LaunchPad Pavilion J - Original Message - From: W.D.McKinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Folks, As a Diamond Reseller for Barracuda Networks, we take the pain out of dealing with issues the best we can for our customers. The issue of selling a used Barracuda is like a lot of hardware vendors. It varies on which entity you are dealing with as to the answer you will get. We move customers off Postini regularly due to issues they have them, so it depends what side of the coin you are looking at. (Only the experienced walk with a limp) We also take the pain of ownership out for folks and filter e-mail for WISP's as they frequently need a lower cost solution. Cheers, -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
That was not the point and now you changed your signature to promote your products, nice. The point is that you are promoting your services, nothing wrong about it really, but pay for it. If you do not see any value in paying for the privilege to participate as a vendor sponsor of WISPA, then stop acting like one. Talking about products, pro-cons, best use, warranties etc., is all well and good. But to directly solicit business on this WISPA list-srv with a competitive product, is not an acceptable practice in my opinion. Apology not accepted. Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc Postini Partner Reseller www.SecureEmailPlus.com ISPCON Spring 2007 May 23-25 in Orlando, FL. LaunchPad Pavilion J - Original Message - From: W.D.McKinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email Hi Frank, I was not saying anything for or against you, Postini or Barracuda. If you you took offense at my statements, my apologies. Cheers, -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net Barracuda Networks Diamond Reseller Imagestream Router WAN Cards Force10 Networks Reseller - Original Message - From: Frank Muto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 16 May 2007 16:55:33 -0800 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email As a PAYING supporting vendor of WISPA and co-sponsor for ISPCON, I take offense to this direct marketing of a competitive service. Last I looked on the WISPA website, neither Barracuda or Alaska Wireless Systems had a logo displayed, unless you are a paid associate vendor. Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc Postini Partner Reseller www.SecureEmailPlus.com ISPCON Spring 2007 May 23-25 in Orlando, FL. LaunchPad Pavilion J - Original Message - From: W.D.McKinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Folks, As a Diamond Reseller for Barracuda Networks, we take the pain out of dealing with issues the best we can for our customers. The issue of selling a used Barracuda is like a lot of hardware vendors. It varies on which entity you are dealing with as to the answer you will get. We move customers off Postini regularly due to issues they have them, so it depends what side of the coin you are looking at. (Only the experienced walk with a limp) We also take the pain of ownership out for folks and filter e-mail for WISP's as they frequently need a lower cost solution. Cheers, -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ISPCON....need tickets
This free pass is good at registration at the show. Print it and bring it with you. http://www.secureemailplus.com/ISPCONPASS.pdf Best Regards, Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc www.SecureEmailPlus.com ISPCON Spring 2007 May 23-25 in Orlando, FL. LaunchPad Pavilion J - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISPCONneed tickets Gino Villarini wrote: Finally I have confirmed my assistance to ISPCON, Any tickets available? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 Did you find a ticket? Why didn't you sign up for the free exhibit hall pass on Friday? -- Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://www.marketingIDEAguy.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
You may want to look into IMAP for mobile communications. We have a 3-way bundle we are officially launching at ISPCON that provides IMAP, POP3 and Web Mail. You can use one or all of the services for one price. If you are there, check us out or give me a shout directly. Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc Postini Partner www.SecureEmailPlus.com ISPCON Spring 2007 May 23-25 in Orlando, FL. LaunchPad Pavilion J WISPA Sponsoring Vendor - Original Message - From: Doug Ratcliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 6:12 PM Subject: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email Currently we do in-house email. We always have one problem or another with our old IMail server ,plus dealing with a spam server and antivirus... We have about 15 domains we currently host, about 150 users. Is it cost effective to outsource something this small? Also on a similar note, does anyone know of a free Exchange host out there that will download pop3 mail and Direct Push to my mobile phone? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISPA task
FYI. Letter writing tips from our ISPCON Spring 2005 conference program. The letter is the most popular choice of communication with a congressional office. When writing, use fax or e-mail due to the delays of mail delivery resulting from the threat of Anthrax and other bio hazards. Write your letter on professional letterhead. Be sure to include your full name, address, phone number and request a reply. Your letter will be read by an aide. While legislators themselves are usually not able to read all of the correspondence sent to their offices, that does not mean your letter will not have an impact. Congressional Representatives rely heavily on their aides to provide them with concise and thorough information. Aides keep a running tally of letters received for or against a given position and report the results regularly to the Congressperson. A well-written, thought provoking letter can educate an aide, thereby influencing the legislator. 1.The purpose of your letter should be stated in the first paragraph. 2.Make the topic clear in your first sentence. For example; I'm writing to ask your support of. 3.Give reasons for your position and include personal experience or concrete examples. 4.Use your own words and experiences. Personal letters and real stories are more compelling. 5.Ask a question. By doing so you may receive a personal response. 6.A one-page letter is best. Only write a longer letter if necessary for clarity. 7.Be polite, positive and constructive. Don't plead and never threaten. 8.Stay on topic. If you have other issues write another letter pertinent to that topic. Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Co-founder WBIA - Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy Postini Partner - Original Message - From: Jack Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA task Consider it done. Here's a link to the page where everyone can locate their representative and send them email. http://www.house.gov/writerep/ Yes, when it comes to dealing with the government, the time is never past for changing minds. The government's job is to respond to the needs of the people. When enough citizens request review and revision of the rules, the government must either respond or be voted out of office. Government is plenty responsive... as long as the citizens make their desires be known. jack Travis Johnson wrote: Yes! There is a job for WISPA. Gather all the email addresses for all the congresspeople in all the states and post the list to this mailing list. Then everyone can write their reps with little or no effort. It was a little short sighted for Marlon to say The time for changing minds is past, wasn't it? ;) Travis Microserv George Rogato wrote: Maybe we should all ask our lawmakers to endorse this bill. Blair Davis wrote: FYI Rep Bart Stupak's (D-MI) request for a CALEA waiver for small broadband company's is currently expected to be endorsed by my congressional Rep Fred Upton (R-MI) Thought some would like to know. -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISPA ISPCON PROMO - Ends May 4th
We're excited to be exhibiting at ISPCON Spring 2007: LaunchPad Pavilion J. And we want to see you there! We have negotiated a special rate for our clients and partners so you can save big on your ISPCON full-conference registration. But that is only the start, please read on... ISPCON Spring 2007 will take place May 23-25 at the Rosen Centre Hotel in Orlando, FL. Simply sign up online by May 4, 2007 and use our unique customer code: PLUSS7. The $100 discount will be taken off the current $595 price of the full-conference pass. Or use our customer code to get a FREE pass to the exhibit hall and keynotes. http://www.ispcon.com/register.php Ok, now here is the WISPA ONLY BONUS! Until May 4th only, the first 10 WISP's signing up for a Full conference pass using our Promo code, PLUSS7 saving $100 off the full conference pass of $595, will receive a $250 credit towards a WISPA membership paid by our company directly. Yes, you read that right, a full one-year membership to WISPA! The credit will be issued once ISPCON verifies the full-conference pass has been paid for. So be one of the first 10 to respond to this offer and save money and support a great organization - WISPA. So sign on quickly, only the first 10 will qualify! WISPA BONUS #2 Any WISP signing up for a new WISPA membership or a Full-conference pass will receive a $250 credit allowance towards any services we are offering including Postini and the upcoming additional new service of hosted email; POP3, IMAP, SMTP and Web Mail with 100mb mailbox storage. More info will be coming out in the coming weeks and for the ISPCON conference. We're looking forward to seeing you in Orlando! Sign up online today and save when you use our unique customer code: PLUSS7 So if you are not taking advantage of this money saving WISPA promotion before May 4, 2007, you can still download this PDF, http://secureemailplus.com/ISPCONPASS.pdf and bringit with you to receive the free Exhibits and Events Pass, or $100 Full-conferene discount when you register on-site or online at: http://www.ispcon.com/register.php Frank Muto President/CEO FSM Marketing Group, Inc. www.secureemailplus.com Toll Free: 800-246-7740 ISPCON Spring 2007 May 23-25 in Orlando, FL. LaunchPad Pavilion J P.S. Remember, you can only qualify by using our unique ISPCON code PLUSS7. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Re: CALEA
ELSUR = Electronic Surveillance Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc www.SecureEmailPlus.com ISPCON Spring 2007 May 23-25 in Orlando, FL. LaunchPad Pavilion J - Original Message - From: Mark Koskenmaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Re: CALEA - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 4:03 PM Subject: [WISPA] Re: CALEA Getting the data for the LEA is just one part of compliance. What about the more practical issues? CALEA requires: Establishment of policies and procedures for supervision and control of officers and employees Who's got a coupel days to write legalese documents that detail everyting they wanna know? Designating a 24/7/265 POC for the LEA This means that no one or two man WISP can be compliant, unless you hire an answering service, and have people on contact, or else have two of you on duty 365 days a year, 12 hours a day.One man can't do it himself. Validating legal authorization for the ELSUR What's ELSUR? I thought I'd managed to uncover all the acronyms already.. Guess not. Maintaining secure and accurate records A summary of all the records you have to maintain would be helpful. Reporting any CALEA security breaches AND... filling with the FCC how you are going to do the above. Not implementing the policies and procedures may result in legal liability. Assuming you have all that is needed to be compliant how do you actually comply with an order? You are going to at least need to collect the following information: Telephone number/circuit ID Start date/time Officer presenting order Judge issuing order Type of ELSUR Supervising carrier personnel Certification of “senior official...” Subscriber name Date/time order served Court issuing order Court docket/file number Law enforcement officers authorized to receive info LEA contact numbers Carrier employees involved And what about the warrant's validity? CALEA requires the carrier to determine the following: Does the Court have jurisdiction over Carrier? Does the Court Order provide for Technical Assistance? Has the Court provided for compensation? If problems arise, how does the carrier address the issues – inside/outside counsel, Service Bureau, etc Just in case you are wondering, acting on an invalid subpoena is $1,000 min fine. Further, if you are acting in bad faith, the court can create, at carrier expense, a court-supervised monitor of your compliance to ensure due diligence. Any violations detected by the monitor can result in additional fines. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Hotels for ISPCON - Ho-Jo's $49-$89
The hotel is within walking distance of the Rosen Centre Hotel and I have already booked a 3-night stay at $49 per-nite. I just called and they have some rooms left, so I would get a jump on these now. Wi-Fi access is available. As for AirFare, if you are in an Airtran MSA, I booked a one-way to Orlando for $54 w/taxes $64.40. Howard Johnson Plaza 9956 Hawaiian Court (Off International Dr.) Orlando, FL 32819-8101 US Phone: 407-351-5100 Fax: 407-352-7188 Best Regards, Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc www.SecureEmailPlus.com WISPA SPECIAL EVENTS | 6:30 PM - 8:30 PM | Wednesday, May 23 WISPA Member Reception and Meeting Hosted by WISPA Sponsored by: ISPCON Spring 2007 will take place May 23-25 at the Rosen Centre Hotel in Orlando, FL. Simply sign up online by May 4, 2007 and use our unique customer code: PLUSS7. The $100 discount will be taken off the current $595 price of the full-conference pass. Or use our customer code to get a FREE pass to the exhibit hall and keynotes. http://www.ispcon.com/register.php - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 3:46 PM Subject: [WISPA] Hotels for ISPCON ISPCON on May 23-25 is at the Rosen Centre Hotel (@ 9840 International Dr) Nearby is the Rosen Plaza Hotel @ 9700 International Dr Both have openings as of right now on Kayak.com between $126 and $133 per night. Comfort Inn, Best Western and Quality Inn are $59-$69 per night. (The only Comfort Inn I can vouch for is at the corner of International Drive and Sandlake. Brand new. 2 miles away. TGI Fridays is in front, so you can walk to drink and eat). Check tripadvisor.com for reviews. 9101 International Drive (I-Drive) is Pointe Orlando (http://www.pointeorlando.com). Quality Inn Plaza and Embassy Suites are closest to the Pointe. Pointe Orlando has a Starbucks, Adobe Gila's (home of the 64 oz. Margarita (http://www.adobegilas.com)), Capital Grille (expensive steak house), Hooters, and Maggiano’s Little Italy, where we were going to hold a dinner. However, since there are WISPA FISPA meetings on the 23rd evening, Adobe's may be a better idea. The 24th is ISP-CEO. The 25th is Friday night and I am probably heading home at that point. --- If anyone is coming in on the 22nd, let me know! (Or staying beyond the 25th). A trolley can take you up and down I-Drive for a nominal fee, BTW. SeaWorld is just down the street. And Disney is 20 minutes away. Closest airport is MCO (Orlando International). Next closest is probably Tampa - about 2 hours away. Frank Muto is giving away passes. WISPA has a code for free exhibit or discount full passes. RAD-INFO does to. If nothing else, buy a full day pass Thursday - you get to hear me speak at 8:45 AM and you get to go to ISP-CEO at 6:30 PM, for just $205! Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://www.marketingIDEAguy.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ spacer.gif Description: GIF image attachment: SecureEmailPlusSM.jpg attachment: BH_CWC_logo_150.jpg -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Hotels for ISPCON Ho-Jo's $49-89
The hotel is within walking distance of the Rosen Centre Hotel and I have already booked a 3-night stay at $49 per-nite. I just called and they have some rooms left, so I would get a jump on these now. Wi-Fi access is available. As for AirFare, if you are in an Airtran MSA, I booked a one-way to Orlando for $54 w/taxes $64.40. Howard Johnson Plaza 9956 Hawaiian Court (Off International Dr.) Orlando, FL 32819-8101 US Phone: 407-351-5100 Fax: 407-352-7188 Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc www.SecureEmailPlus.com WISPA SPECIAL EVENTS | 6:30 PM - 8:30 PM | Wednesday, May 23 WISPA Member Reception and Meeting Hosted by WISPA Sponsored by: Secure Email Plus BEARHILLl ISPCON Spring 2007 will take place May 23-25 at the Rosen Centre Hotel in Orlando, FL. Simply sign up online by May 4, 2007 and use our unique customer code: PLUSS7. The $100 discount will be taken off the current $595 price of the full-conference pass. Or use our customer code to get a FREE pass to the exhibit hall and keynotes. http://www.ispcon.com/register.php - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ISPCON on May 23-25 is at the Rosen Centre Hotel (@ 9840 International Dr) Nearby is the Rosen Plaza Hotel @ 9700 International Dr Both have openings as of right now on Kayak.com between $126 and $133 per night. Comfort Inn, Best Western and Quality Inn are $59-$69 per night. (The only Comfort Inn I can vouch for is at the corner of International Drive and Sandlake. Brand new. 2 miles away. TGI Fridays is in front, so you can walk to drink and eat). Check tripadvisor.com for reviews. 9101 International Drive (I-Drive) is Pointe Orlando (http://www.pointeorlando.com). Quality Inn Plaza and Embassy Suites are closest to the Pointe. Pointe Orlando has a Starbucks, Adobe Gila's (home of the 64 oz. Margarita (http://www.adobegilas.com)), Capital Grille (expensive steak house), Hooters, and Maggiano’s Little Italy, where we were going to hold a dinner. However, since there are WISPA FISPA meetings on the 23rd evening, Adobe's may be a better idea. The 24th is ISP-CEO. The 25th is Friday night and I am probably heading home at that point. --- If anyone is coming in on the 22nd, let me know! (Or staying beyond the 25th). A trolley can take you up and down I-Drive for a nominal fee, BTW. SeaWorld is just down the street. And Disney is 20 minutes away. Closest airport is MCO (Orlando International). Next closest is probably Tampa - about 2 hours away. Frank Muto is giving away passes. WISPA has a code for free exhibit or discount full passes. RAD-INFO does to. If nothing else, buy a full day pass Thursday - you get to hear me speak at 8:45 AM and you get to go to ISP-CEO at 6:30 PM, for just $205! Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://www.marketingIDEAguy.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik's (lame) answer to CALEA as of 4/23
I do have one question here... does the provider run the risk of privacy when capturing data that is not explicitly requested in the warrant or subpoena? When the connection is mirrored, will the provider be able to dissect the requested data? Because I would assume you can not give the requesting LEA anything they did not have a legal request for. When we had our dialup ISP, we were very careful in only providing only the warranted or subpoenaed information to the requesting LEA. Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc www.SecureEmailPlus.com ISPCON Spring 2007 May 23-25 in Orlando, FL. LaunchPad Pavilion J - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik's (lame) answer to CALEA as of 4/23 Why is that lame? I don't see where this is Mikrotik's problem or issue. I'm going to keep saying this over and over and over (started over a year ago). Use a smart ethernet switch and mirror your main internet connection to a box that can capture the traffic. Then use something like openCalea (www.opencalea.org). Even if you have to buy a switch, a box to run the software, etc. you are less than $500 total. If you have multiple NOC's, $500 per location is cheap. Travis Microserv ralph wrote: I asked: I have 3 of your licensed routers (level 4) When do you plan to release a version of RouterOS that is CALEA compliant? Thank You They Replied: Hello, It already is, you simply have to enable sniffer of all traffic, and store the raw data on a server that captures it. You can also use smart switches that can mirror ports to a capturing server. See discussions on our forum on this topic. Regards, Normunds -- Come to MikroTik User Meetings - April 28th, Abuja, NIGERIA - May 31st - June 1st, Orlando, USA http://mum.mikrotik.com -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Orlando + WISPA ISPCON PROMO
Gladly John, We're excited to be exhibiting at ISPCON Spring 2007: LaunchPad Pavilion J. And we want to see you there! We have negotiated a special rate for our clients and partners so you can save big on your ISPCON full-conference registration. But that is only the start, please read on... ISPCON Spring 2007 will take place May 23-25 at the Rosen Centre Hotel in Orlando, FL. Simply sign up online by May 4, 2007 and use our unique customer code: PLUSS7. The $100 discount will be taken off the current $595 price of the full-conference pass. Or use our customer code to get a FREE pass to the exhibit hall and keynotes. http://www.ispcon.com/register.php Ok, now here is the WISPA ONLY BONUS! Until May 4th only, the first 10 WISP's signing up for a Full conference pass using our Promo code, PLUSS7 saving $100 off the full conference pass of $595, will receive a $250 credit towards a WISPA membership paid by our company directly. Yes, you read that right, a full one-year membership to WISPA! The credit will be issued once ISPCON verifies the full-conference pass has been paid for. So be one of the first 10 to respond to this offer and save money and support a great organization - WISPA. So sign on quickly, only the first 10 will qualify! WISPA BONUS #2 Any WISP signing up for a new WISPA membership or a Full-conference pass will receive a $250 credit allowance towards any services we are offering including Postini and the upcoming additional new service of hosted email; POP3, IMAP, SMTP and Web Mail with 100mb mailbox storage. More info will be coming out in the coming weeks and for the ISPCON conference. We're looking forward to seeing you in Orlando! Sign up online today and save when you use our unique customer code: PLUSS7 So if you are not taking advantage of this money saving WISPA promotion before May 4, 2007, you can still download this PDF, http://secureemailplus.com/ISPCONPASS.pdf and bring it with you to receive the free Exhibits and Events Pass, or $100 Full-conference discount when you register on-site or online at: http://www.ispcon.com/register.php Best Regards, Frank Muto President/CEO FSM Marketing Group, Inc. www.secureemailplus.com Toll Free: 800-246-7740 ISPCON Spring 2007 May 23-25 in Orlando, FL. LaunchPad Pavilion J P.S. Remember, you can only qualify by using our unique ISPCON code PLUSS7. - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frank Muto has set up a deal where your entry to ISPCON is practically free when you consider the free 100% WISPA dues payment he will make on your behalf. An exhibit pass is free when you use a code from WISPA, Frank or Peter. I think ImageStream has a free exhibit hall pass code also. I don't know how you could afford to NOT go. I learned one trick there last time using the Google Adsense Search feature that now pays me several hundred dollars a month in recurring revenues. Frank, why don't you send that offer out one more time so people can see it. It is an amazing offer and Frank deserves a BIG attaboy for stepping up in such a big way to help promote WISPA membership while saving money for the coming ISPCON show. Good work Frank. Doug I sure hope you will reconsider coming to the show. We will have a reception and meeting of WISPA at the event also. I hope to see many of you there. Scriv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISPA ISPCON PROMO
Thank you Marlon. I do want to make it clear that this is a two fold offer. Not only do the first 10 get a paid WISPA Membership, but they also get the Bonus #2 for $250 credit towards any services we provide, i.e., Postini and our upcoming new mail service featuring POP3, IMAP and Web Mail, with a minimum 100mb storage per mailbox. We will also have 250mb, 1GB and 2GB storage upgrades available as well. Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc www.SecureEmailPlus.com ISPCON Spring 2007 May 23-25 in Orlando, FL. LaunchPad Pavilion J - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wow!!! That's very cool Frank! Thanks much, Marlon - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 8:47 AM Subject: [WISPA] WISPA ISPCON PROMO We're excited to be exhibiting at ISPCON Spring 2007: LaunchPad Pavilion J. And we want to see you there! We have negotiated a special rate for our clients and partners so you can save big on your ISPCON full-conference registration. But that is only the start, please read on... ISPCON Spring 2007 will take place May 23-25 at the Rosen Centre Hotel in Orlando, FL. Simply sign up online by May 4, 2007 and use our unique customer code: PLUSS7. The $100 discount will be taken off the current $595 price of the full-conference pass. Or use our customer code to get a FREE pass to the exhibit hall and keynotes. http://www.ispcon.com/register.php Ok, now here is the WISPA ONLY BONUS! Until May 4th only, the first 10 WISP's signing up for a Full conference pass using our Promo code, PLUSS7 saving $100 off the full conference pass of $595, will receive a $250 credit towards a WISPA membership paid by our company directly. Yes, you read that right, a full one-year membership to WISPA! The credit will be issued once ISPCON verifies the full-conference pass has been paid for. So be one of the first 10 to respond to this offer and save money and support a great organization - WISPA. So sign on quickly, only the first 10 will qualify! WISPA BONUS #2 Any WISP signing up for a new WISPA membership or a Full-conference pass will receive a $250 credit allowance towards any services we are offering including Postini and the upcoming additional new service of hosted email; POP3, IMAP, SMTP and Web Mail with 100mb mailbox storage. More info will be coming out in the coming weeks and for the ISPCON conference. We're looking forward to seeing you in Orlando! Sign up online today and save when you use our unique customer code: PLUSS7 So if you are not taking advantage of this money saving WISPA promotion before May 4, 2007, you can still download this PDF, http://secureemailplus.com/ISPCONPASS.pdf and bring it with you to receive the free Exhibits and Events Pass, or $100 Full-conference discount when you register on-site or online at: http://www.ispcon.com/register.php Best Regards, Frank Muto President/CEO FSM Marketing Group, Inc. www.secureemailplus.com Toll Free: 800-246-7740 P.S. Remember, you can only qualify by using our unique ISPCON code PLUSS7. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Storm Trojan outbreaks
Storm Trojan reaches record proportions http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarticleId=9016420source=rss_news10 Malware outbreak 'largest in almost a year' http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid14_gci1251304,00.html?track=sy160 Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Postini Partner http://wispa.spam-virus.com -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wireless ISP's (shows)
Dawn, Looking forward to seeing the two of you again as well as everyone else. I will be in the LaunchPad Pavilion (J) promoting our Secure Email Plus with our partner provider Postini. Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mac, Ken is speaking at ISPCON and we are both going to be there. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Mac Dearman wrote: Dawn, Are you and Ken going to ISPCON? Mac Dearman -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Postini Mail Scanning Service
What Marlon has said is correct, and to add that these accounts (non-accounts) could be set up to be filtered for Viruses. This is a great added value feature, one that Postini realized that not all your accounts will be added to the database, so they created an option to virus scan non-accounts. Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Postini Partner Reseller http://wispa.spam-virus.com Toll Free: 800-246-7740 Cell: 630-258-7422 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, but those that don't want the service will just pass through. marlon - Original Message - From: Mark Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 11:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Postini Mail Scanning Service Since it is MX-based are you saying that all accounts for a particular domain must be routed through the service? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Postini Mail Scanning Service
Mark, As a WISPA sponsoring vendor for Postini, I can offer some information as I was a Postini customer before I was asked to become a Postini Partner Reseller. Postini uses an MX directed service that redirects your customer's messages through the Postini hosted filtering data centers. Accounts can be manually created or use one of two automated user creation methods. There are no software or hardware concerns and the interface is 100% web based for all your system administration. Since closing down our dialup data center in 2002, we moved all our webhosting to our secondary provider we have used from our beginning and needed stronger filtering methods. Since we were too far away to administer an appliance type service, e.g. Barracuda, Ironport, etc., we gave Postini a try. Our main concern was reducing our server loads and increased disc space for handling the increasing amount of spam and viruses. Postini handled this by being at the front edge of the network and killing off a significant amount of wasted bandwidth created by spam/viruses, a definite plus. Since we did both virtual and dedicated hosting, our virtually hosted accounts that had high amounts of spam traffic, we saw increased server performance and significant amount of reduced disc space as well as reduced bandwidth overall. The cost of using Postini was genuinely a concern, but so was the potential cost of losing revenue from customers wanting a better filtering service and costs of increased bandwidth and server resources. We took advantage of Postini's 30 day trial and gave all our clients the same. We put all of our customer domains on the service and in using Postini's reporting, were able to see our largest email contributors and provide those stats to our customers on a before and after period of using Postini. This provided a good development tool in determining our costs to our customers and how we could offer the service to them and at what price. That said, we also began reaching outside of our own hosted customers and promoted Postini to other businesses, especially those hosting their own mail servers, e.g., MS Exchange. We again offered free trials and developed a significant amount of additional business by promoting Postini and leveraging their existing marketing and press credentials. By Postini being a hosted service, (Software as a Service - SaaS) we were also able to provide businesses with multiple offices a centralized management control of their email system messages. We have customers with as little as five accounts and some with over a thousand users and I can honestly say our churn is hardly measurable in almost 4 years of providing Postini, because they did not like or afford the service. One of the best features I feel Postini offers is a wireless feature for filtering to PDA's, e.g. Blackberry and Treo's. We actually have a few IT specialty companies promoting this feature alone and doing a very good job at that. As for the impact, all I can say is that in all my time providing Internet related services, I have never had an easier time than that in offering Postini. In fact, I have completely focused my company's direction on providing Postini exclusively and hopefully adding other related email services in the future. In closing, no matter what service you use for spam/virus control, your customers need it and want it. Best Regards, Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Postini Partner Reseller http://wispa.spam-virus.com Toll Free: 800-246-7740 Cell: 630-258-7422 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Mark Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] For those of you using this service, please tell me about it. 1. How accounts are set up to send through their system. 2. What you like about it. 3. What you don't like about it. 4. How do you pay for it? (increase subscriber costs, eat it, etc) 5. Has it had a positive impact on your customers (if you can tell)? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Lawmakers threaten FBI over spy powers
Lawmakers threaten FBI over spy powers By JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS, Associated Press Writer http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070320/ap_on_go_co/national_security_letters Republicans and Democrats sternly warned the FBI on Tuesday that it could lose its broad power to collect telephone, e-mail and financial records to hunt terrorists after revelations of widespread abuses of the authority detailed in a recent internal investigation. Their threats came as the Justice Department's chief watchdog, Glenn A. Fine, told the House Judiciary Committee that the FBI engaged in widespread and serious misuse of its authority in illegally collecting the information from Americans and foreigners through so-called national security letters. If the FBI doesn't move swiftly to correct the mistakes and problems revealed last week in Fine's 130-page report, you probably won't have NSL authority, said Rep. Dan Lungren (news, bio, voting record), R-Calif., a supporter of the power, referring to the data requests by their initials. From the attorney general on down, you should be ashamed of yourself, said Rep. Darrell Issa (news, bio, voting record), R-Calif. We stretched to try to give you the tools necessary to make America safe, and it is very, very clear that you've abused that trust. If Congress revokes some of the expansive law enforcement powers it granted in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, Issa said, America may be less safe, but the Constitution will be more secure, and it will be because of your failure to deal with this in a serious fashion. The FBI's failure to establish sufficient controls or oversight for collecting the information constituted serious and unacceptable failures, Fine told the committee. Democrats called Fine's findings an example of how the Justice Department has used broad counterterrorism authorities to trample on privacy rights. This was a serious breach of trust, said Rep. John Conyers (news, bio, voting record), D-Mich., the Judiciary chairman. The department had converted this tool into a handy shortcut to illegally gather vast amounts of private information while at the same time significantly underreporting its activities to Congress. Rep. Jerrold Nadler (news, bio, voting record), D-N.Y., said Congress should revise the USA Patriot Act, which substantially loosened controls over the letters. We do not trust government always to be run by angels, especially not this administration, Nadler said. It is not enough to mandate that the FBI fix internal management problems and recordkeeping, because the statute itself authorizes the unchecked collection of information on innocent Americans. Some Republicans, however, said the FBI's expanded spying powers were vital to tracking terrorists. The problem is enforcement of the law, not the law itself, said Rep. Lamar Smith (news, bio, voting record) of Texas, the panel's senior GOP member. We need to be vigilant to make sure these problems are fixed. Fine said he did not believe the problems were intentional, although he acknowledged he could not rule that out. We believe the misuses and the problems we found generally were the product of mistakes, carelessness, confusion, sloppiness lack of training, lack of adequate guidance and lack of adequate oversight, Fine said. It really was unacceptable and inexcusable what happened here, he added under questioning. Valerie Caproni, the FBI's general counsel, said she took responsibility for the abuses and believed they could be fixed in a matter of months. We're going to have to work to get the trust of this committee back, and we know that's what we have to do, and we're going to do it, she said. In a review of headquarters files and a sampling of just four of the FBI's 56 field offices, Fine found 48 violations of law or presidential directives during between 2003 and 2005, including failure to get proper authorization, making improper requests and unauthorized collection of telephone or Internet e-mail records. He estimated that a significant number of ... violations throughout the FBI have not been identified or reported. The bureau has launched an audit of all 56 field offices to determine the full extent of the problem. The Senate Judiciary Committee is to hear Wednesday from Fine and FBI Director Robert Mueller on the same topic. In 1986, Congress first authorized FBI agents to obtain electronic records without approval from a judge using national security letters. The letters can be used to acquire e-mails, telephone, travel records and financial information, like credit and bank transactions. In 2001, the Patriot Act eliminated any requirement that the records belong to someone under suspicion. Now an innocent person's records can be obtained if FBI field agents consider them merely relevant to an ongoing terrorism or spying investigation. Fine's review, authorized by Congress over Bush administration
Re: [WISPA] Calea - what will we need to provide ?
LAES = lawfully authorized electronic surveillance Frank Muto Co-founder WBIA www.wbia.us - Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 1:31 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Calea - what will we need to provide ? On Mon, 12 Mar 2007, wispa wrote: There is a specific data format, called LAES, which is an acronym for something or other. LAES is a delivery protocol, not data format. As best I can tell, this format costs a license fee if you wish to program something to use it. Thus, NO OPEN SOURCE IS POSSIBLE. Not true. http://www.opencalea.org/. There is a company (not gonna mention a name) that is currently working to have an open source, freely available WORKING solution that can be installed on your linux server. -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Calea - what will we need to provide ?
LAES stands for; lawfully authorized electronic surveillance. Frank Muto WBIA www.wbia.us P.S. Also a supporting WISPA vendor. - Original Message - From: wispa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Calea - what will we need to provide ? On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:07:33 -0400, Rick Smith wrote Is there anywhere online that actually states WHAT we will need to provide ? I.e. data format, etc. - It was my impression that this was still under discussion at the FBI... There is a specific data format, called LAES, which is an acronym for something or other. As best I can tell, this format costs a license fee if you wish to program something to use it. Thus, NO OPEN SOURCE IS POSSIBLE. http://www.askcalea.net/standards.html Please note, there is no entry for ISP's here. That's because CALEA compliance requirement is merely a reversal of opinion by the FCC less than 12 months ago - May 2006. If you dig into CALEA deeper, you find a requirement for all (switching) equipment vendors to be compliant. Technically, this requires all WISP equipment vendors to be compliant, too. That would mean that Trango, Deliberant, Motorola, Alvarion, etc, would all have to build CALEA compliance into thier equipment if they, in any way, do any data routing or manipulation. SBC / Linux based equipment cannot be made compliant until someone pays the licensing and writes the closed source application, and then we all buy it. Potentially, this could raise the price of WISP gear a lot. Frankly, the more I read this, the more I am convinced that if this industry is to survive this absolutely IDIOTIC nonsense, we're going to have to go back to Washington DC and tell them THERE IS NO WAY we can conform to laws written for the telco. The language is wrong, it doesn't translate, the standards are wrong, they don't hold, it's like demanding that the railroads conform to airline laws, or vice versa. The FCC is just making this crap up as they go, CALEA has no provisions that make the slightest bit of sense for ISP's, and we need to tell them this in clear and unmistakeable terms. Frankly, I'm all for WISPA, Part-15 and whoever else, polling the members for a consensus that says we officially tell the FCC to reverse their decision, and that must go back to Congress, and get laws written to cover us, AND MONEY TO PAY FOR IT, or we'll just refuse. At the prospect of having 500, 1000, or 3000 ISP's refuse, and absolutely NOT having the means of taking down (much less withstand the public outcry) everyone, they'll be forced to do the right thing. Further, someone needs to educate them, that this kind of intercept is NOT, and I mean, NOT necessarily going to provide them squat. For almost no effort, anyone can obfuscate the data going through a TCP/IP connection, and you will NOT capture anything useful. VPN's can be encrypted and even a VOIP call through it would be untraceable, untrackable, undecipherable, and I'll bet that even the FBI cannot break many encryption methods in use today. Further, it's relatively trivial to multi-home your data transfers, which means you won't get what you think you're after, and the subject's data will be incomplete. CALEA made sense for law enforcement purposes for the telcos, but it's woefully out of data and the notion of alligator clip type listening device tap for internet based communications is sadly ridiculous. unfortunately, that's what they're trying to do. CALEA envisioned restoring the simplistic voice recording that used to happen when we had simple copper wires carrying sound across them in analog form. CALEA was the response to switching and telcos transporting that voice digital. That was deemed adequate for CALEA from 1994 to 2002 when the FCC suddenly said that CELL phones had to comply. Gee, they existed when CALEA was written. They think that they can just expand the notion of the 'tap' to a technology light years away from what CALEA applies to as written. It cannot be done without re-writing the rules of networking, the internet, and the public's freedom to communicate, as well. We as an industry owe it to ourselves and we, as citizens, owe it to our country to JUST SAY NO!. It's bad governance, bad business, bad misuse of technology...not to mention, just plain wrong for them to take on an impossible task, and require US to foot the bill for their experimenting. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Mark Koskenmaki Neofast, Inc Broadband for the Walla Walla Valley and Blue Mountains 541-969-8200 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http
[WISPA] AskCALEA News Weekly
WISPA Meets With the FCC, Urges WISPs to File Form 477 WISPA told members of the ISP-Wireless list that the stature of all wireless internet service providers depends upon everyone telling the FCC they exist. Yesterday, George Rogato of WISPA, the Wireless Internet Service Providers' Association, told members of the ISP-Wireless list about a recent visit to the offices of the FCC and FTC in Washington, D.C. He reiterated a plea to ISPs to file Form 477 with the FCC, saying what Zip Codes you operate in. The article is here: Links to the ISP-Planet Article http://www.askcalea.net/redirect/?id=Newsletter:070226_02 Frank Muto Co-founder - Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Is it enough ?
In defense of WISPA and those who have previously filed, I do not think you can state this as a last minute cause for response. This has been an ongoing [beneficial] cause for the WISP. The 04-186 NPRM was first filed by the FCC's OET on 5/13/2004 with a First Order Report w/Further NPRM filed on 10/18/2006, not discounting the Notice of Inquiry (NOI) listed below. If you look at the first NPRM and in the first paragraph(¶) towards the end it states, ...allowing unlicensed operation in the TV bands could benefit wireless internet service providers (WISPS) by improving the service range of their existing operations, thereby allowing WISPS to reach new customers. My gosh, this is directly aimed at WISP's! In addition to a Notice of Inquiry on 12/11/2002 - From footnote from the 1st NPRM - See Notice of Inquiry in ET Docket No. 02-380, 17 FCC Rcd 25632 (2002). The Commission also sought comment on the possibility of allowing unlicensed devices to operate in the 3650-3700 MHz band with only the minimum restrictions necessary to prevent interference to authorized users of the band. However, the matter of unlicensed operation in the 3650-3700 MHz band is now being addressed in a separate proceeding. See Notice of Proposed Rule Making in ET Docket NO. 04-151, FCC 04-100 (re]. April 23,2004). In ¶ 10, of the 1st NPRM, you will notice that the FCC does acknowledge WISP commenter's; In addition, a number of WISPS filed comments expressing their support for making spectrum in the TV bands available for unlicensed use. These parties generally submit that use of TV frequencies could improve signal coverage.(23). Footnote (23) - See, for example, Cliff LeBoeuf comments at 1, C. Crowley comments at 1, David Blood comments at 1, A M Techtel Communications comments at 2, John Hokenson comments at 1, Air Networking comments at 1, Redline Communications at 5-6, Kevin Rice comments at I, Lakeland Communication, Inc. comments at 1-2, Old Colorado city Communications at 6, Mutual Data Services, Inc. comments at 1, New Gen Wireless, Inc. comments at 1, Big Tube Wireless, LLC comments at 1, Keith Schmidt comments at 1, Chase 3000 comments at 2, Jason Hunt comments at 1, R.W. Shepardson comments at 1, David Lindley comments at 1, Eje Gustafsson comments at 1, Mark Worstall comments at 1, Netrepid comments at 1, Mother Lode Internet comments at 1, REC Networks comments at 1, Alvarion, Inc. comments at 1, Roy Preston comments at 1, David Robertson comments at 1, Kerry Penland comments at 1, Marlon K. Schafer comments at 1, and ScotI Sniven comments at 1. Only 75 commenter's are listed as filing Comments to the 1st NPRM and 26 filing Reply Comments, see Appendix A. Now, the FCC is using data from 1997 under the guidelines of the Regulatory Flexibility Analysis (RFA), See Appendix C. The RFA directs agencies to provide a description of, and, where feasible, an estimate of the number of small entities that may be affected by the proposed rules, if adopted.m The RFA defines the term small entity as having the same meaning as the terms small business, small organization, and small business concern under Section 3 of the Small Business Act.m Under the Small Business Act, a small business concern is one that: (1) is independently owned and operated; (2) is not dominant in its field of operations; and (3) meets may additional criteria established by the Small Business Administration (SBA). Appendix C Section A. paragraph 2 of the RFA states in the behalf of WISP's; These proposals, if adopted, will prove beneficial to manufacturers and users of unlicensed technology, including those who provide services to rural communities. Specifically, we note that a growing number of wireless internet service providers (WISPS) are using unlicensed devices within wireless networks to serve the needs of consumers. WISPS around the country are providing an alternative high-speed connection in areas where cable or DSL services have been slow to arrive. The additional frequency bands where operation is proposed will help to foster a viable last mile solution for delivering Internet services, other data applications, or even video and voice services to underserved, rural, or isolated communities. In addition, TV frequencies, which are below 900 MHZ, have less signal attenuation through foliage and walls than frequencies above 900 MHz currently used by WISPS, thus affording improved signal coverage. DO you not think this is this worth the time to state your OWN case and those of others in the WISP industry? The FCC is giving the WISP industry a huge OPPORTUNITY to speak their peace and step up to the plate and be heard. This FCC OET NPRM is asking for your input directly and specifically. Frank Muto Co-founder - Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA - Original Message - From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] maybe WISPA needs to be describing
Re: [WISPA] Is it enough ?
Alvarion, Inc. is listed as a Reply Commenter. Frank - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is it enough ? Patrick, you've been awfully quiet on this one. What are Alvarion's thoughts? Have you guys filed on this matter? Tranzeo, same question Any other vendor members care to chime in here? thanks, marlon - Original Message - From: Frank Muto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is it enough ? In defense of WISPA and those who have previously filed, I do not think you can state this as a last minute cause for response. This has been an ongoing [beneficial] cause for the WISP. The 04-186 NPRM was first filed by the FCC's OET on 5/13/2004 with a First Order Report w/Further NPRM filed on 10/18/2006, not discounting the Notice of Inquiry (NOI) listed below. If you look at the first NPRM and in the first paragraph(¶) towards the end it states, ...allowing unlicensed operation in the TV bands could benefit wireless internet service providers (WISPS) by improving the service range of their existing operations, thereby allowing WISPS to reach new customers. My gosh, this is directly aimed at WISP's! In addition to a Notice of Inquiry on 12/11/2002 - From footnote from the 1st NPRM - See Notice of Inquiry in ET Docket No. 02-380, 17 FCC Rcd 25632 (2002). The Commission also sought comment on the possibility of allowing unlicensed devices to operate in the 3650-3700 MHz band with only the minimum restrictions necessary to prevent interference to authorized users of the band. However, the matter of unlicensed operation in the 3650-3700 MHz band is now being addressed in a separate proceeding. See Notice of Proposed Rule Making in ET Docket NO. 04-151, FCC 04-100 (re]. April 23,2004). In ¶ 10, of the 1st NPRM, you will notice that the FCC does acknowledge WISP commenter's; In addition, a number of WISPS filed comments expressing their support for making spectrum in the TV bands available for unlicensed use. These parties generally submit that use of TV frequencies could improve signal coverage.(23). Footnote (23) - See, for example, Cliff LeBoeuf comments at 1, C. Crowley comments at 1, David Blood comments at 1, A M Techtel Communications comments at 2, John Hokenson comments at 1, Air Networking comments at 1, Redline Communications at 5-6, Kevin Rice comments at I, Lakeland Communication, Inc. comments at 1-2, Old Colorado city Communications at 6, Mutual Data Services, Inc. comments at 1, New Gen Wireless, Inc. comments at 1, Big Tube Wireless, LLC comments at 1, Keith Schmidt comments at 1, Chase 3000 comments at 2, Jason Hunt comments at 1, R.W. Shepardson comments at 1, David Lindley comments at 1, Eje Gustafsson comments at 1, Mark Worstall comments at 1, Netrepid comments at 1, Mother Lode Internet comments at 1, REC Networks comments at 1, Alvarion, Inc. comments at 1, Roy Preston comments at 1, David Robertson comments at 1, Kerry Penland comments at 1, Marlon K. Schafer comments at 1, and ScotI Sniven comments at 1. Only 75 commenter's are listed as filing Comments to the 1st NPRM and 26 filing Reply Comments, see Appendix A. Now, the FCC is using data from 1997 under the guidelines of the Regulatory Flexibility Analysis (RFA), See Appendix C. The RFA directs agencies to provide a description of, and, where feasible, an estimate of the number of small entities that may be affected by the proposed rules, if adopted.m The RFA defines the term small entity as having the same meaning as the terms small business, small organization, and small business concern under Section 3 of the Small Business Act.m Under the Small Business Act, a small business concern is one that: (1) is independently owned and operated; (2) is not dominant in its field of operations; and (3) meets may additional criteria established by the Small Business Administration (SBA). Appendix C Section A. paragraph 2 of the RFA states in the behalf of WISP's; These proposals, if adopted, will prove beneficial to manufacturers and users of unlicensed technology, including those who provide services to rural communities. Specifically, we note that a growing number of wireless internet service providers (WISPS) are using unlicensed devices within wireless networks to serve the needs of consumers. WISPS around the country are providing an alternative high-speed connection in areas where cable or DSL services have been slow to arrive. The additional frequency bands where operation is proposed will help to foster a viable last mile solution for delivering Internet services, other data applications, or even video and voice services to underserved, rural, or isolated communities. In addition, TV frequencies, which are below 900
Re: [WISPA] Is it enough ?
That's good, and developing a political network in D.C. is imperative, but it's not a part time job. WISPA needs to eventually outsource this job out. It's a daily grind on the Hill to get in the right doors and see the right people. This does not come cheap and one way or another WISPA needs this. They have done a good job getting the ball rolling, but they can not dedicate the proper time to walk the halls and be in the right places when called on, at times... at the spur of the moment. WISPA needs two directions at this time and that is developing a recruitment of members and a D.C. team. But first, in order to pay for the D.C. team, WISPA needs members, paying members, that will support their industry into a viable force of competition. The principle members and leadership are not in a position to back away from building their business, but are providing the interim support needed to launch WISPA into strong and influential association for WISP's. WISPA will also need a front line of Execs, those that can call on their own networks in drawing on support, that is financial support, along with influence in D.C. Just like launching a new business and looking for funding, it's the money spent on the recruitment of those that can bring on the cash support. Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Co-founder - Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA http://gigabytemarch.blog.com/ www.wbia.us - Original Message - From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] actually. Don't laugh. We should talk. In my new life as a company, I've got a Director of Sales on board that's a (very) politically connected guy in Northern NJ as well as Washington. I'm bringing him up to speed slowly, as I need him to get selling :) BUT, one of the things I will do soon is get him on board here. This guy's a heavy hitter and we actually have a very good friend of ours that's a congressman in DC.. More soon. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 11:46 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is it enough ? Yeah, being on time is nice. And we've already filed a couple of times on this issue over the years that it's been around. It all takes time and I don't always have as much as it takes to learn the issues, talk to others, work with others (like NAF, MAP, Cisco, Intel, ieee, etc.). If you'd like to join the fcc committee. grin marlon -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: Fw: [WISPA] wisp survey
As the old saying goes, ignorance is no excuse for knowing the law... Sure, keeping up with the FCC is at times daunting, but they have a website section dedicated to wireless; http://wireless.fcc.gov/ and also a mailing list of FCC actions. There are also many other resources as well. As a business owner, you have a fiduciary responsibility to know, or at least be aware of issues effecting your industry. Doesn't matter what your business is, it could be selling hotdogs for that matter, but there are rules, laws, statues, regulations etc., of many different things a business must be aware of for local, state or federal. Industry groups such as WISPA can't force anyone to listen, let alone that people really need to do their part as part of the industry solidarity. This statement goes back to the same ones we all heard about the wireline associations being responsible for getting the word out. Getting the word out to their supporting members is one thing, being responsible to thousands of others is another. Neither one of these issues, CALEA or Form 477 are new and that there is a sever lack of information is exaggerated. Frank Muto Co-founder - Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA - Original Message - From: Larry Yunker [EMAIL PROTECTED] The main suggestion that I can make is to contact as many WISPs as can be identified within the US and let them know about the FCC reporting requirements, about form 477, about CALEA in general, about WISPA's efforts to enable reasonable CALEA compliance. As you noted... you have used this forum to get the word out. But many WISPs are not on this forum. I think that the WISPA community needs outreach (mail, phone calls, etc) to WISPs offlist if efforts to educate are going to succeed. Reading the CALEA RO's it amazes me that either the FCC or the DoJ believe that broadband ISPs have effectively been put on notice regarding their need to comply with CALEA. The way the Order reads, it appears the agency assumes that ISPs have always held themselves out as telecommunications carriers and that broadband ISPs know or should have known about their obligations to comply with CALEA since CALEA was created in 1995. Furthermore, it indicates that ISPs know that they have an affirmative obligation to obtain a registration number from the FCC and to file with the FCC as a telecommunications provider. I don't believe that poor compliance with regards to CALEA regulations is necessisarily due to the obstanence of ISPs. I contend that the poor compliance with regards to CALEA is due to a severe lack of information and lack of understanding. Lets face it... just a few years ago, broadband ISPs were told that they were information service providers and not telecommunications providers. Therefore, we did not qualify for unbundled-network-elements or co-location facilities within a CO but we were exempt from collecting USF fees. Now, the RO for CALEA has re-interpretted the term and re-classified broadband internet providers as telecommunications providers for the purposes of CALEA. This reinterpretation is at very least confusing and it leaves many ISPs with the feeling that they are or should be exempt from CALEA regulation. Because the FCC has taken such a drastic change in position regarding the regulation and classification of broadband internet service providers, it seems that actual notice to the effected parties would have been more appropriate (during the promulgation of the rule and order). Now that the order has already been made and the deadline is quickly approaching, there is no more time to wait for government intervention. Its up to industry groups like WISPA to fill the gap and contact WISPs and let them know about their obligations. - Larry Yunker -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FCC Martin comments on relcass of wireless broadband as an info service
http://energycommerce.house.gov/Press_110/110-resp.FCC.020707.Chairman.resp%20to%20our%2013107%20ltr.pdf See page seven, second to last paragraph; The Commission is also considering an order that would classify wireless broadband Internet access service as an information service... Frank Muto Co-founder - Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC Martin comments on relcass of wireless broadbandas an info service
And you may be right and that is my point in drawing out this answer Martin made to the committee. He also states the reclass would eliminate unnecessary regulatory barriers and clarifications of such, though he does not provide an example. And if his agenda for this reclass does only effect licensed spectrum, how will that effect the regulatory burdens on the UL provider? This may be the NPRM that brings a significant amount of the UL providers out of the closet, so to speak... or maybe not. Frank - Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED] All, I got the impression Martin did not have WISP's in mind when he made this decision. As quoted from the article; He added it also would “establish a consistent regulatory framework across broadband platforms.” This is the same rationale Martin has used to support deregulation of DSL, BPL and cable modem Internet access. He said action on the wireless broadband question would be especially timely since the FCC just auctioned AWS-1 spectrum for wireless broadband and is preparing for a 700MHz auction. Link to full article below; http://www.phoneplusmag.com/hotnews/72h513247.html Regards, Dawn DiPietro Peter R. wrote: He is talking about cellular broadband, not UL wireless. Frank Muto wrote: http://energycommerce.house.gov/Press_110/110-resp.FCC.020707.Chairman.resp%20to%20our%2013107%20ltr.pdf See page seven, second to last paragraph; The Commission is also considering an order that would classify wireless broadband Internet access service as an information service... Frank Muto Co-founder - Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC Martin comments on relcass of wireless broadbandasan info service
Harold Feld puts his spin it at http://www.wetmachine.com/item/722 Wireless Broadband As Information Service: Brand X Is Not Enough Frank Muto Co-founder - Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA - Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scriv, The particular paragraph that I pointed out that this was timely because of the 700MHz Auction. After reading the pdf file that Frank posted it looks like Martin feels that there is enough UL spectrum in the 5Ghz range to last WiFi providers far into the future. Martin did comment on White Spaces being used for low power devices but mentioned they were still working on technical issues. The emphasis was put directly spectrum auctions being an important part of their strategy to build out mobile broadband networks. I did paraphrase a bit but is all spelled out starting on page 7 paragraph 3. As far as I know the last time the information services issue came up the FCC was talking specifically about the CableCo's. I hope this was helpful. Regards, Dawn DiPietro John Scrivner wrote: I am sorry to look stupid here guys but I am missing the point. Please spell it out for me like I am a pre-schooler. I am not grasping the finer points being made. What is it about Martin's answer that will have any effect on us or other licensed wireless broadband industries. Thanks, Scriv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ...from the FCC (reinforces what I was just saying inthe TV whitespace thread)
Dr. Robert Pepper joined Cisco in July 2005 from the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) where most recently he had been Chief, Policy Development. ... www.pulver.com/consumertech/schedule_fjsc1133872246.html Frank Muto Co-founder - Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA - Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ...from the FCC (reinforces what I was just saying inthe TV whitespace thread) Patrick, If I am not mistaken I think you meant Robert Pepper. Please correct me if I am wrong. It has been known to happen once or twice. ;-) Regards, Dawn DiPietro George Rogato wrote: Patrick Leary wrote: because former FCC policy chief, Robert Canary (now with Cisco), has been posting on the isp-wireless list that WISPs are not obligated to file Form 477. You sure? I thought Robert Canary was a long time wisp? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] calea
http://www.askcalea.net/standards.html See website for more details Service Type Technology Voice Wireline / Wireless: TIA TR45 TIA/EIA J-STD-025-A TIA TR45 TIA/EIA J-STD-025-B Wireline VOIP: (LAES) for Voice over Packet Technologies in Wireline Telecommunication Networks PTSC ATIS-1000678 (T1.678v2) Cable VOIP Release 1.1: PacketCable Electronic Surveillance Specification PKT-SP-ESP-I03-40113 Cable VOIP Release 1.5: PacketCable Electronic Surveillance Specification PKT-SP-ESP1.5-I01-050128 Cable VOIP Release 2.0: PacketCable Electronic Surveillance Delivery Function Collection Function Interface Specification PKT-SP-ES-DCI-I01 PacketCable Electronic Surveillance Intra-Network Specification PKT-SP-ES-INF-I02 Voice over Packet: Electronic Surveillance Needs for Carrier Grade Voice over Packet Service CGVoP CDMA2000 VOIP: LAES for CDMA2000 VoIP TIA-1066 UMTS VOIP: WTSC P.0008 (In Ballot) Push-To-Talk UMTS / GPRS: T1P1 T1.724 Rel. 5 - UMTS ESMR: EWA Electronic Surveillance for ESMR Dispatch Ver. 1.0 CDMA2000 POC: TIA-1072 Paging PAGING: Paging, Advanced Messaging, CALEA - Ver. 1.3 Data Access UMTS / GPRS: T1P1 T1.724 Rel. 5 - UMTS CDMA 2000: TIA TR45 LAES J-STD-025-B, plus Addendum 1 Wireline: PTSC T1.IAS (In Ballot) Frank Muto Co-founder - Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA http://gigabytemarch.blog.com/ www.wbia.us - Original Message - From: Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 8:24 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] calea That was my understanding as well Scott. I can't seem to remember what formats they said were ok to use, do you? Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] att condition - broadband
And there is no enforceable action that may or not take place if these voluntary commitments are not met, i.e., penalties and or fines after the merger is completed. Same smoke and mirrors BS from past mergers. Frank Muto Co-founder - Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA http://gigabytemarch.blog.com/ www.wbia.us - Original Message - From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] keyword...offer... buzzword...Wi-max... aka fluff... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 10:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] att condition - broadband By December 31, 2007, ATT/BellSouth will offer broadband Internet access service (i.e., Internet access service at speeds in excess of 200 kbps in at least one direction) to 100 percent of the residential living units in the ATTBellSouth in-region territory. 2 To meet this commitment, ATT/BellSouth will offer broadband Internet access services to t least 85 percent of such living units using wireline technologies (the Wireline Buildout Area). ATT/BellSouth will make available broadband Internet access service to the remaining living units using alternative technologies and operating arrangements, including but not limited to satellite and Wi-Max fixed wireless technologies . ATTBellSouth further commits that at least 30 percent of the incremental deployment after the Merger Closing Date necessary to achieve the Wireline Buildout Area commitment wi11 be to rural areas or low income living units. 3 -- Regards, Peter Radizeski -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Form 477 Confidentiality Challenged in Court
That is a good idea, but why not be proactive and let the FCC know the concerns you have NOW (call, email or fax) and ask how you can help in the litigation. I'm still not clear what this group is trying to really accomplish. I'll assume that anyone that filed the 477 has a potential right to be a co-defendant in this matter. You may also consult with your attorney as well. Frank Muto FSM Marketing Group, Inc. - Original Message - From: Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 2:06 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Form 477 Confidentiality Challenged in Court That's a good view Tom. Until a decision is made one way or another, we probably shouldn't jump to conclusions. However, we should keep a keen eye for a comment period concerning this issue. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 1:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Form 477 Confidentiality Challenged in Court I'm glad this is being taken to court. One of the reasons many WISPs don't file still (even though legally required to), is because they are afraid that the information will be shared with someone that will result in a negative effect, whether its the tax collector or competitors. Proving that this information can or can not be kept confidential will take a load off the mind of parties that are obligated to file. Hopefully, the FCC will be victorious and not need to disclose the information. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 11:37 AM Subject: [WISPA] Form 477 Confidentiality Challenged in Court It looks as though the confidentiality of Form 477 information is being challenged in court. Anyone with further insight that has comments, they are appreciated. Our office received this document via email today. PUBLIC NOTICE Federal Communications Commission 445 12th St., S.W. Washington, D.C. 20554 News Media Information 202 / 418-0500 Fax-On-Demand 202 / 418-2830 TTY 202 / 418-2555 Internet: http://www.fcc.gov ftp fcc gov DA 06-2534 December 15, 2006 Public Notice To Service Providers Who Filed FCC Form 477s With The Commission And Sought Confidential Treatment Of The Information Submitted This Public Notice notifies all filers who sought confidential treatment of their Form 477 information that the public release of this information is being sought. The following litigation is pending in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia: Center for Public Integrity v. Federal Communications Commission, Civil Action No. 06-1644 (RMC). Plaintiff initiated this action under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. § 552, as amended, seeking release of all FCC Form 477s filed with the Commission. The Wireline Competition Bureau previously denied plaintiff's FOIA request for these records, pursuant to FOIA exemption 4, because it found that the requested records contain commercially sensitive, competitive information and that release would cause harm to the entities that submitted the requested information. The plaintiff has filed for de novo review of its request by the U.S. District Court. The Commission's brief in this proceeding is due to be filed with the court on January 8, 2007. For further information, contact Michael A. Krasnow, Office of General Counsel, (202) 418- 7924. - FCC - Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] salary
Thought I would throw this out about the GAO's report on company formations. http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d06376.pdf This may or not be relevant to the topic at hand, but may be parallel information to be aware of. Cliff note summary from the report. Why the study: Companies form the basis of most commercial and entrepreneurial activities in market-based economies; however, shell companies, which have no operations, can be used for illicit purposes such as laundering money. Some states have been criticized for requiring minimal ownership information to form a U.S. company, raising concerns about the ease with which companies may be used for illicit purposes. In this report, GAO describes (1) the kinds of information each of the 50 states and the District of Columbia and third party agents collect on companies, (2) law enforcement concerns about the use of companies to hide illicit activity and how company information from states and agents helps or hinders investigations, and (3) implications of requiring states or agents to collect company ownership information. What the GAO found: Most states do not require ownership information at the time a company is formed, and while most states require corporations and limited liability companies (LLC) to file annual or biennial reports, few states require ownership information on these reports. With respect to the formation of LLCs, four states require some information on members, who are owners of the LLC. Some states require companies to list the names and addresses of directors, officers or managers on filings, but these persons may not own the company. Nearly all states screen company filings for statutorily required information, but none verify the identities of company officials. Third-party agents may submit formation documents to the state on a company's behalf, usually collecting only billing and statutorily required information for formations. These agents generally do not collect any information on owners of the companies they represent, and instances where agents told us they verified some information were rare. Frank Muto President/CEO FSM Marketing Group, Inc -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Overage plan help
Marlon, Mario may be talking about the use of the catchall user under the domain settings. The catchall user is a legacy feature that was available as a work around for directory sync issues. This may or may not be discontinued, but may be used in limited setups. The problem is that people are using the catchall user to filter complete domains instead of paying for actual user accounts to be spam filtered. Some people where also doing this with aliases and thus the limit on 5 aliases per primary user account. If anyone using Postini is doing this now, I suggest not doing so. Postini does however have a new Directory Sync feature for the Service Provider Edition as well as filtering all unregistered users for viruses. They have also added a second virus scan using Authentium, When McAfee scans an email clean it then will be scanned once again by Authentium. Frank Muto FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Postini Partner Reseller http://wispa.spam-virus.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] And how would I do that? Last I knew, Postini wanted to get paid too. grin - Original Message - From: Mario Pommier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marlon, You can make all your mail traffic go through Postini without being charged more, and you can still charge the customer the $1 fee for usage. And, yeah, people do like. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Overage plan help
Postini has what is called, non-account bouncing and it will allow those accounts not in the Postini data base to be passed through. Another benefit is that Postini will filter all non-accounts for viruses using two filtering engines, McAfee and Authentium. If McAfee finds an email clean, it will be also be scanned by Authentium. With non-account bouncing, you can also see those email accounts via reporting and see how much data they pass on to your system. Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Postini Partner Reseller http://wispa.spam-virus.com - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can you explain this in more detail? I am not quite following you on this. Thanks, Scriv Mario Pommier wrote: Marlon, You can make all your mail traffic go through Postini without being charged more, and you can still charge the customer the $1 fee for usage. And, yeah, people do like. Mario Marlon K. Schafer wrote: We don't put everyone on Postini. We charge those that want the filtering $1 per month. Like John and Forbes, it's cost is too high to just include automatically. Instead, we make money on spam. I'd say around half of our customers and almost all hosted domains take Postini. We're actually using the usage stats to help us sell Postini. No one wants to pay an overage fee just to receive all that dang spam :-). laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Frank Muto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Overage plan help If you have not done it already, putting everyone on your Postini system will decrease your mail server bandwidth substantially. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] salary
http://money.cnn.com/2006/03/31/technology/google/index.htm Google leaders stick with $1 salary According to the search engine's latest proxy filing, Eric Schmidt, Larry Page and Sergey Brin each turned down a raise. By Paul R. La Monica, CNNMoney.com senior writer March 31, 2006: 4:38 PM EST NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) - Google's co-founders and chief executive officer were offered a raise this year by the company's compensation committee, but the three turned it down and are sticking with their current annual salary of $1. The search engine company made the disclosure in its proxy statement, which was filed Friday with the Securities and Exchange Commission. CEO Eric Schmidt and co-founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin first requested that their salary be cut to $1 in the second quarter of 2004, just before the company's initial public offering. Prior to that, Schmidt was making $250,000 a year while Page and Brin each earned a salary of $150,000. In Friday's filing, Google (Research) said that due to our continued strong performance, the leadership by Eric, Sergey and Larry throughout the year, and below-market cash compensation levels, the Committee determined that an increase in cash compensation opportunities was merited, and we offered Eric, Sergey and Larry an increase in salary and bonus for 2006. The company added that Schmidt, Page and Brin turned the offer down because their primary compensation continues to come from returns on their ownership stakes in Google. As significant stockholders, their personal wealth is tied directly to sustained stock price appreciation and performance, which provides direct alignment with stockholder interests. According to the filing, Schmidt owns about 12.45 million shares of Google, which are worth about $4.86 billion based on the company's most recent stock price. Brin owns about 31.6 million Google shares and Page owns a little more than 32 million shares. So their stakes are each worth more than $12 billion based on current stock prices. Frank Muto President/CEO FSM Marketing Group, Inc - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check with your CPA on that. The IRS likes to see salary and other activities that represent that your company really is a company and not a tax shelter so that you avoid the sole proprietor tax schedule. (It's called piercing the veil -- if you don't have minutes and annual shareholder meetings and run it like a business, you lose the corporate shield for tax purposes AND for liability as in civil litigation). - Original Message - From: Larry Yunker [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think you are on the mark here... according to what I picked up through my Business Planning coursework, the IRS has fairly consistently applied a reasonableness test to the salary of a CEO who is also a majority shareholder. But reasonable is a fairly broad term. Zero would not be reasonable in any case, but $10,000 or more might meet the reasonableness standard for companies with limited revenues. On the other hand, if your company is turning $1MM in sales, you better be paying your full time CEO substantially more than $10,000 because the IRS will see right through that ploy. In addition, if you try to pay the CEO through an incentive program (dividends or stock options) in lieu of salary, the IRS will treat the capital-gains as real income and will tax the CEO at the higher personal rate. You have to provide a balance of salary and other non-salary incentives in order to get the maximum tax advantage. - Larry -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Overage plan help
If you have not done it already, putting everyone on your Postini system will decrease your mail server bandwidth substantially. Frank Muto FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Postini Partner Reseller http://wispa.spam-virus.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want to keep billing per bit. It's, by far, the most effective way to compete against cable and dsl. It's also a good way to push the hogs over to competing services. Our average user is running at about 1.7 gigs per month. This includes all of my servers and the mail server alone hit 50 gigs last month. So I'll bet that the average user is actually under 1.5 gigs per month. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FYI - MS Word Zero Day Flaw
The vulnerability cannot be exploited automatically through e-mail. For an attack to be successful a user must open an attachment that is sent in an e-mail message. In a Web-based attack scenario, an attacker would have to host a Web site that contains a Word file that is used to attempt to exploit this vulnerability. In addition, compromised Web sites and Web sites that accept or host user-provided content could contain specially crafted content that could exploit this vulnerability. An attacker would have no way to force users to visit a malicious Web site. Instead, an attacker would have to persuade them to visit the Web site, typically by getting them to click a link that takes them to the attacker's site. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/929433.mspx Frank Muto FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Postini Partner Reseller http://wispa.spam-virus.com NEW Weblog - www.spam-virus.net Posts on news for spam and virus information. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Electronically Stored Information In Litigation Rules
Here is a handy link to a PDF whitepaper on the new E-discovery rules - http://tinyurl.com/htarf Below is a section that may dispell the FUD. Rule 37 — Failure to Make Disclosure or Cooperate in Discovery; Sanctions: New subsection 37(f) is added which states, in full, Absent exceptional circumstances, a court may not impose sanctions under these rules on a party for failing to provide electronically stored information lost as a result of routine, good-faith operation of an electronic information system. The Advisory Committee Notes explain that the premise for this amendment is that ordinary computer use necessarily involves routine alteration and deletion of information for reasons unrelated to litigation. Frank Muto FSM Marketing Group, Inc. - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.localtechwire.com/article.cfm?u=15705 Don’t Panic, But New Discovery Of Electronically Stored Information In Litigation Rules Now Apply By Linda Markus Daniels, Special To LTW Editor’s note: Linda Markus Daniels is a co-founder of the RTP-based law firm Daniels Daniels Verdonik. RESEARCH TRIANGLE PARK, N.C. - Over the last week or so there have been a number of articles about new rules related to litigation, portending that there could be punishments for undertaking routine computer backups or destroying legacy data from obsolete systems. Don’t panic! Many of these articles are either misinformed or taking a broad brush to a complex and yet untested amendment to the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, the rules under which parties to a lawsuit in federal court (only) request and receive documents and other information in the possession the opposing party. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISPA has a new Vendor Menber - Welcome FSM Marketing Group, Inc.
Thank you John, for that kind introduction. I am looking forward to working with WISPA and supporting the members of the association. While I have not operated or worked for a WISP, there are many of the same issues I once had when operating our dialup ISP. If I may, I would like to provide a little background history of how we got started with Postini. In early 2003 a few of our old ISP domains were getting hit with direct harvest - DHA's and were bogging down the shared servers were we using. In all, there were only 3 emails that covered those domains, but in the past some 225k mailboxes were used. Apparently, email accounts take a while to die out as well as the spammers hitting anything they can find. The server was seeing some 50-100k SMTP attempts and our host provider asked that we move those domains to a dedicated box with some edge filtering. Since adding another appliance would not solve the bandwidth issue, it would also be another point of failure to potentially contend with. I called Postini and took a test drive and was pleased with the results. Just before our 30-day trial was just about to run out, our Postini representative asked if I would be willing to become a Postini Partner in reselling their services to companies like ours and other ISP, Webhosts etc. I said why not and took the challenge. Now fast forward 3-1/2 years and I feel we are at the right time and place to venture out beyond our normal sales channel and go directly to the market. I sincerely hope that I can be helpful to the members of WISPA, not only in providing a service, but in also providing any of my own experience or empirical knowledge. Postini may not be the right for everyone, but you also may have other customers looking for options and Postini may just be the right fit. Postini is easy to monetize additional revenue because of its structure of an outsourced solution. I will be talking more about these benefits in the weeks and months ahead. Sincerely, Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Postini Partner - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 8:50 PM Subject: [WISPA] WISPA has a new Vendor Menber - Welcome FSM Marketing Group,Inc. Please join me in welcoming a true friend of the ISP / WISP industry as our newest Vendor Member, Frank Muto of FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Many of you already know Frank as a tireless advocate of all that is good for the WISP industry. He is joining WISPA to show his support and also to take the opportunity to offer spam filtering services that he sells to hundreds of other companies. I am looking forward to hearing more about what Frank is offering to us and I am certainly happy he has decided to make the move to joining WISPA formally. Here is a bit about Frank and FSM: FSM Marketing Group, Inc., was founded by Frank Muto in 1994 and incorporated in 2000. Starting in 1994, the business began providing web development and later in 1997 began offering hosting and dial-up Internet service. Since May of 2003, FSM provides Postini’s Perimeter Manager® for over 900 customer mail systems. As an authorized Postini Partner, FSM offers ISP’s, Web-hosts, IT consultants, integrators and businesses cost effective spam and virus filtering solutions, disaster recovery, message continuity and new and upgraded services on a continuous basis. Thank you again Frank, we look forward to working with you. Kindest regards, John Scrivner President WISPA -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New Recording LAW in effect today?
To dispel the FUD about this, the law is dealing with the 2006 Amendments to the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure addressing discovery of electronically stored information. Link to pdf http://tinyurl.com/htarf review. Secondly, if you are presented with a properly written subpoena, you do have rules to live by, e.g., Electronic Communications Privacy Act or 1986. Frank Muto President/CEO FSM Marketing Group, Inc - Original Message - From: Tim Kerns [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Recording LAW in effect today? As a common carrier I can understand and agree. What about providing E-mail services to our customers, do we then need to keep copies of all e-mail that comes into or goes out our server? Tim Kerns - Original Message - From: Blair Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Recording LAW in effect today? We are common carriers. We no more have to copy peoples e-mail than the phone company has to record the contents of every call. Tim Kerns wrote: I caught a brief report on FoxNews today about a requirement for keeping copies of E-mail. It seems that we may be required to maintain a copy for use at later time for criminal courts. Anyone know of this or have more info on it? Is it every ISP or only Corporations. This could be disasterious. sell alot of storage devices... The Foxnews report says the requirement begins today and as usual not a lot of detail. Tim Kerns CV-Access, Inc. -- Blair Davis -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New Recording LAW in effect today?
Here is a link which provides an overview of the ECPA from the DOJ and a handy reference to keep on hand. http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/ssmanual2002.htm#_IIID1_ We are going through some personal and business issues regarding such issues relating to electronic storage. Frank Muto President/CEO FSM Marketing Group, Inc - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 2:53 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] New Recording LAW in effect today? I'm going to look into this, but current law ALREADY requires ISPs to retain records of e-mail traffic and Web searches for 90 days. This was per an amendment to the 1986 Stored Communications Act. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Kerns Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 9:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] New Recording LAW in effect today? I caught a brief report on FoxNews today about a requirement for keeping copies of E-mail. It seems that we may be required to maintain a copy for use at later time for criminal courts. Anyone know of this or have more info on it? Is it every ISP or only Corporations. This could be disasterious. sell alot of storage devices... The Foxnews report says the requirement begins today and as usual not a lot of detail. Tim Kerns CV-Access, Inc. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass?
Here is a white paper that may have some useful info. http://www.igov.com/informationtech/pdfdirectory/cranite/HIPAA-Compliance-and-Wireless-Networks.pdf Frank Muto President/CEO FSM Marketing Group, Inc - Original Message - From: Carl A Jeptha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:42 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass? John, Ask them to supply you with the HIPPA compliance list point-by-point. Then you show how you can comply when it is your responsibility and also point out where they are responsible for security. Then summarise this and they will see that they are more responsible for this HIPPA thing than you or any other carrier is. Because as has been pointed out before, if the data is encrypted when it leaves the terminal, the rest doesn't really matter. Point out also that this way they are free to change their providers anytime they want to, because they are in control of their security not an outsider. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC Docket 06-74
Though the comment period is closed, one could still submit comments requesting late filing and ex-parte and send a notice to the FCC Secretary. Check box 11 on the cover sheet of the ECFS. Frank Muto Co-founder - Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA http://gigabytemarch.blog.com/ www.wbia.us We believe that all Americans are entitled to freedom of choice and that true competition is unbiased of its provider network. That we be allowed access to those networks to give all Americans their right to choose any mix of service or services they choose. - Original Message - From: Mark Del Bianco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Docket 06-74 Tom- It would be a great idea. The comment period is closed now, but it may be re-opened if ATT puts another set of proposed merger conditions on the table. If they do, I'll let this list know. Mark --- Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As condition of merger, Why not require ATT and BS to offer settlement-free peering, to all ISPs below a certain size, without a minimum commit, or to a non-profit entity that allows settlement-free peering? So that the merger helps small ISP continue to gain access to the goliath amount of subscribers that will be controlled by one enitity after the merger. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
