Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X

2020-12-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
Somehow that’s making me hungry for a BLT. We had a local deli that made a killer turkey-bacon club with lettuce and tomato and cheddar cheese and horseradish mustard on multigrain toast. The building was once a Cock Robin Ice Cream, still had the sign. Went out of business 2 or 3 years

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X

2020-12-08 Thread John Seaman via AF
Ryan your question is a little bit more complicated to answer because the answer is “it depends”. For a smaller cnWave network you can enable the onboard E2E controller and it supports mesh/PMP/PTP. In this case there is no requirement to use cnMaestro although it will be advantageous to use

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X

2020-12-08 Thread Dave
Thats cool and most awesome LOL! Especially with 50 APs and 900 Subs on cbrs On 12/8/2020 2:18 PM, John Seaman via AF wrote: Yes Ken.  For CBRS-only, you don’t need a subscription to X.  The SAS fee has you covered. *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Ken Hohhof *Sent:* Tuesday, December 8, 2020

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X

2020-12-08 Thread John Seaman via AF
When that times we could just call it Pro From: AF On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 4:18 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X You can't get to Z too quick, then there's nowhere else to go. Or does it just roll to

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X

2020-12-08 Thread Steve Jones
Naw fam, Z this close to a pandemic will get people all nervous an shit, talkin bout cambium zombies all up in here. On Tue, Dec 8, 2020, 6:04 PM Cassidy B. Larson wrote: > I’m all about the “Z” ship now.. “X” was s pre-2020. haha > > Space X, iPhoneX, EdgeRouterX.. > > On Dec 8, 2020, at

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X

2020-12-08 Thread Steve Jones
Sammiches are an essential service On Tue, Dec 8, 2020, 5:33 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > But everything is virtual now. > > 索索索 > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 8, 2020 5:25 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [ External ]

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X

2020-12-08 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
I’m all about the “Z” ship now.. “X” was s pre-2020. haha Space X, iPhoneX, EdgeRouterX.. > On Dec 8, 2020, at 4:59 PM, John Seaman via AF wrote: > > I think the X ship has sailed… no turning back to Pro. I like X. It sounds > edgy J > From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X

2020-12-08 Thread Matt Hoppes
So X... is that like the EdgeRouter X? I assume this must be somehow related to Ubiquiti then? /s On 12/8/20 6:59 PM, John Seaman via AF wrote: I think the X ship has sailed… no turning back to Pro.  I like X.  It sounds edgy J *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Ken Hohhof *Sent:* Tuesday,

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X

2020-12-08 Thread John Seaman via AF
I think the X ship has sailed… no turning back to Pro. I like X. It sounds edgy ☺ From: AF On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 2:54 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X Is it too late to call it PRO instead of X?

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X

2020-12-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
But everything is virtual now. 索索索 From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 5:25 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X By my need exceeds my ability to produce samiches (sorry for identiyism) and cambium is a

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X

2020-12-08 Thread Steve Jones
By my need exceeds my ability to produce samiches (sorry for identiyism) and cambium is a monolithic evil corporation and should be putting sammiches on everyone's plate On Tue, Dec 8, 2020, 4:58 PM James Howard wrote: > It’s samiches…. And there’s still no more free lunch. We’re going to >

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X

2020-12-08 Thread James Howard
It’s samiches…. And there’s still no more free lunch. We’re going to make sure that every American pays their fair share From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 4:03 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X Is this

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X

2020-12-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
Is it too late to call it PRO instead of X? Seems like that could have saved a lot of trouble. Naming things has never been Cambium’s strength. Look at the PMP 450 model numbers. And going from FW version 16 to 20, what’s that about, is it like Windows 95? I kind of thought cnMaestro X

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Kraken has missing tentacles

2020-12-08 Thread Robert Andrews
Wow, Steve just Wow, this post spews a whole lot of hate. Towards "libtards" and members of the list. This really feels like crossing the line. And, unless I missed an announcement today, the Secretary of Health said on TV last night that the status of the recovered towards getting the

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X

2020-12-08 Thread Ryan Ray
Thanks for the clarification John. One last thing, if we are planning on deploying V5000 and V1000 should we be incorporating the CNMaestro X cost into each AP and SM to make the 60GHz Terragraph system work? On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 2:21 PM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X

2020-12-08 Thread Matt Hoppes
So I’m really confused now what would be the benefit of migrating to the free X version versus the free current version? > On Dec 8, 2020, at 5:04 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > >  > Is this the same virtual product? Or if we switch to x do we have to migrate > to a new on premise or new cloud

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X

2020-12-08 Thread Steve Jones
Is this the same virtual product? Or if we switch to x do we have to migrate to a new on premise or new cloud server? And if the sunscriprionnis cancelled? Or is it just turn on and turn off inside of the software? And sandwiches, I was told there would be sandwiches On Tue, Dec 8, 2020, 3:47 PM

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X

2020-12-08 Thread Sam Lambie
Thank you John for the information. I feel better now! On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 2:47 PM John Seaman via AF wrote: > It’s not really two different products. Think of it as a Freemium model. > You can create a free account in cnMaestro cloud anytime, and start using > it. Alternatively you can

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X

2020-12-08 Thread John Seaman via AF
It’s not really two different products. Think of it as a Freemium model. You can create a free account in cnMaestro cloud anytime, and start using it. Alternatively you can also download the on-prem version and start using it (also free). If you want the advanced features, then you need a

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X

2020-12-08 Thread Matt Hoppes
So.,. X feature overview: Device On-boarding Monitoring Configuring Alarm and Event Notifications So those things aren't available any more on standard CnMaestro? Would be great if someone from Cambium could clearly clear up this mess. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X

2020-12-08 Thread Matt Hoppes
I am still really confused as is my distributor. Are these two different products or is the X just the name for the management software that has a pay for future model? Is there anything we are losing that we currently have today if we don’t start paying for this product that I know nothing

Re: [AFMUG] OT - extraterrestrials

2020-12-08 Thread Steve Jones
It would explain mark zuckerberg On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 2:52 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Here’s one for Jaime. Trump was on verge of revealing Galactic Federation. > > > https://thehill.com/homenews/news/529300-israels-ex-space-boss-trump-was-on-the-verge-of-revealing-extraterrestrials > -- > AF

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X

2020-12-08 Thread John Seaman via AF
Assuming the powercode integration is handled through API, yes – that requires X. Also correct on payment gateways. It’s currently flagged as a “Pro” feature, so that means you’ll need an X subscription to use the feature going forward. From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday,

[AFMUG] OT - extraterrestrials

2020-12-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
Here's one for Jaime. Trump was on verge of revealing Galactic Federation. https://thehill.com/homenews/news/529300-israels-ex-space-boss-trump-was-on- the-verge-of-revealing-extraterrestrials -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X

2020-12-08 Thread James Howard
No more free lunch! From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 2:33 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X Will those with powercode integration on on premise break then? And no more payment gateways on captive portal?

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X

2020-12-08 Thread Steve Jones
Will those with powercode integration on on premise break then? And no more payment gateways on captive portal? On Tue, Dec 8, 2020, 2:26 PM John Seaman via AF wrote: > Yes, standard cnMaestro is still free for SM and AP. Here’s the complete > list of what you get with the free version (the

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X

2020-12-08 Thread John Seaman via AF
Yes, standard cnMaestro is still free for SM and AP. Here’s the complete list of what you get with the free version (the first column) vs. cnMaestro X. https://cdn.cambiumnetworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/cnMaestro-X-Features-Pricing-Aug-2020-final.pdf cnMaestro X has all the same

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 35 states

2020-12-08 Thread Steve Jones
You might have illinois beet on oversight, but no way do you have us on grift On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 5:22 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > Or go the other way. NY State programs have so much oversight that it's > stifling and you can't get anything done. > > > On 12/7/2020 4:13 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X

2020-12-08 Thread John Seaman via AF
Yes Ken. For CBRS-only, you don’t need a subscription to X. The SAS fee has you covered. From: AF On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 11:08 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X And what’s the tl:dr for WISPs that

[AFMUG] OT: Let the vaccinations begin

2020-12-08 Thread Bill Prince
I had to chuckle. The first two people in the UK to get the Pfizer vaccine today were 90 year-old Margaret Keenan, and 81 year-old William Shakespeare. The name of the second patient prompted this: The second person to be vaccinated at the hospital was

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Kraken has missing tentacles

2020-12-08 Thread Steve Jones
I think swallwell is patient zero https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XK797-vj4k but While i think nadler is a slimy little pedo, it has become apparent he was doing his part in not risking the spread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_URQt6BBFI On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 1:06 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X

2020-12-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
And what’s the tl:dr for WISPs that only use cnMaestro for CBRS? Does our $3/sub still cover that? From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 12:57 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X Yeah, the detailed

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Kraken has missing tentacles

2020-12-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
Well, Rudy farting was funny, the rest not so much. A Google search on farting and Covid says Stephen Colbert recommended that people fart into their elbow. Good to know. From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 12:30 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Kraken has missing tentacles

2020-12-08 Thread Steve Jones
CNN is getting exposed in their top down directed bias with the nothingburger call leaks right now. I like that. I have yet to meet a leftist that wears masks when they dont think anyone is looking. I'm not gonna lie, I'm hoping for the civil war, mainly because I see it as the purge, not in

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X

2020-12-08 Thread Steve Jones
Yeah, the detailed specifics. Is it just the stuff that has the pro flag now or will some of the rest me pay for use On Tue, Dec 8, 2020, 12:55 PM Matt Hoppes wrote: > But this is only if using X correct? Standard maestro will continue to be > free for SM and AP? > > I’m confused. What does

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Kraken has missing tentacles

2020-12-08 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
It just says this has been a bad year. Nobody on the planet guessed exactly right. Look at Sweden now. Yes, liberals can be hypocrites but so can conservatives. Schadenfreude happens when the other side gets caught in these situations, but the majority of the population are not on the

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X

2020-12-08 Thread Matt Hoppes
But this is only if using X correct? Standard maestro will continue to be free for SM and AP? I’m confused. What does this X provide that standard doesn’t and why are free features in standard now pay in X? > On Dec 8, 2020, at 1:44 PM, John Seaman via AF wrote: > >  > That’s correct. FWB

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Kraken has missing tentacles

2020-12-08 Thread Steve Jones
I laugh and laugh about libiots exposing themselves as the hateful bigots they really are whenever a right winger catches covid. I laugh even more when they recover quickly and move on like the vast majority of those infected with covid. Like right now, we have 6.1 million diagnosed cases active,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Kraken has missing tentacles

2020-12-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
A couple months back, wasn't someone on this list speculating whether Covid-19 could be spread via flatus and whether some people might need to wear a second mask? And now we have Rudy Tooty. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 10:09 AM To:

Re: [AFMUG] SMTP Spam troubles

2020-12-08 Thread Adam Moffett
+1 I emailed mailop list about a similar issue and a Microsoft admin emailed me privately about it.  My listing in their system was caused by a hacked account that was resolved in a few hours, but they continued treating us as a spam source for several days after.  The MSFT guy eventually

Re: [AFMUG] SMTP Spam troubles

2020-12-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
Microsoft and Comcast are a strange combination without some common thread. I’m assuming it’s your mailserver IP and not the customer’s domain being blocked, also that it’s outlook.com or Hotmail.com blocking you, not Microsoft’s paid filtering service I forget what it’s called. One thing

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Kraken has missing tentacles

2020-12-08 Thread Robert
As always, follow the money, as of last week, over $200 million raised with a note in the donation page that the funds can be used for other purposes besides contesting the election. On 12/8/20 7:03 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: Adam, Why bother, the big question. Trump lost this

Re: [AFMUG] SMTP Spam troubles

2020-12-08 Thread Steve Jones
geek On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 9:51 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > MailOps would be better suited than NANOG. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Kraken has missing tentacles

2020-12-08 Thread Bill Prince
Way less than 50%. Roughly 6 million less than 1/3 voted for 45. Roughly 6 million more than 1/3 voted for Biden. Roughly 1/3 didn't vote at all, so they just said "Meh." bp On 12/8/2020 7:03 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: Adam, Why bother, the big question. Trump lost this

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Kraken has missing tentacles

2020-12-08 Thread Steve Jones
i love it when the left suffers their own consequences, makes me giggle. the chickens are coming home to roost, and its only just begun. Its sexy because there is so much video now that everytime a leftist complains about the sour grapes or utter stupidity, its simple to retort with video footage

Re: [AFMUG] SMTP Spam troubles

2020-12-08 Thread Mike Hammett
MailOps would be better suited than NANOG. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Steve Jones" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 8:57:31 AM

Re: [AFMUG] SMTP Spam troubles

2020-12-08 Thread Mike Hammett
Microsoft has SNDS. Microsoft and Google are the two hardest I've found to get removal from. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Nate Burke" To: "Animal Farm" Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Kraken has missing tentacles

2020-12-08 Thread Bill Prince
The whole point from 45's point of view is to make money for his next venture (whatever that is). He solicited donations to the tune of over $210 million (last I heard), of which he's spent around $10 million actually bringing his baseless complaints before courts (and only in the swing

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Kraken has missing tentacles

2020-12-08 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
Adam, Why bother, the big question. Trump lost this election. Were there shenanigans, maybe, it doesn't matter. All this this jumping up and down by Trump and his lawyers is a game. They know Joe is going to be next president, no court is going to over turn the voting process. This is

Re: [AFMUG] SMTP Spam troubles

2020-12-08 Thread Steve Jones
I think the microsoft outage recently forced them to tickle their middle bits. They rate limited RackSpace even the other day. This is yet another of the billion reasons why Im glad we dont host our own email The NANOG list will probably get you contacts for resolutions On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at

Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

2020-12-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you fall into an open sewer and die. - Mel Brooks From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 8:13 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question that type of person usually is very much

[AFMUG] SMTP Spam troubles

2020-12-08 Thread Nate Burke
I've started having a lot of problems over the last week with my mailserver getting blocked for Spam. I can't find any reason why, but Microsoft/Senderbase/Comcast are blocking me. I'm not on any Blacklists that I can find, MXToolbox shows it clean on all their blacklist checks, and it's not

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Kraken has missing tentacles

2020-12-08 Thread Steve Jones
goalpost hasnt moved, their stated plan from the beginning was to get it to the constitutionally defined resolution of a house vote. shady as fuck but is what it is. Even the "gods" at CNN say its a "winning" strategy if they pull it off. For moved goalposts its odd that CNN would have been

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Kraken has missing tentacles

2020-12-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
A PET scan is like a CAT scan but it also detects DOGS and GOLDFISH? Actually, a relative’s experience was a PET scan is what the insurance won’t pay for and you shouldn’t either if you don’t want to know that the doctors have been feeding you B.S. when they say “we got it all” because you

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Kraken has missing tentacles

2020-12-08 Thread Carl Peterson
This strategy has never been about winning in court, rather, the idea is to keep churning the water to provide cover to allies who can claim "uncertainty surrounding the election results" and fodder for the faithful who actually believe in some sort of grand fraudulent scheme. It has gone beyond

Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

2020-12-08 Thread Steve Jones
that type of person usually is very much hippocrytical, always willing to sacrifice as much of their neighbors' resources as is needed. You also have to take into account that many of the aged out without a new crop of malleable youth minds to be taken advantage of. On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 7:22 AM

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Kraken has missing tentacles

2020-12-08 Thread Steve Jones
dont ever get a PET scan On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 7:33 AM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Its too funny how many times they have failed...much like his presidency. > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2020, 6:22 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > >> I just read the federal judge's order on the Michigan "Kraken" lawsuit. >> >>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Kraken has missing tentacles

2020-12-08 Thread Jaime Solorza
Its too funny how many times they have failed...much like his presidency. On Tue, Dec 8, 2020, 6:22 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > I just read the federal judge's order on the Michigan "Kraken" lawsuit. > > Among the various points she makes: > > * The evidence offered is sworn testimony of belief

Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

2020-12-08 Thread Adam Moffett
I forgot about that point:  The anti-war protests diminished when the draft ended.  The war continued a few more years after drafting was over.  That tells me a lot of the anti-war hippies weren't anti-war as long as someone else was going. On 12/7/2020 10:55 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I was

[AFMUG] OT: The Kraken has missing tentacles

2020-12-08 Thread Adam Moffett
I just read the federal judge's order on the Michigan "Kraken" lawsuit. Among the various points she makes: * The evidence offered is sworn testimony of belief that something could have happened.  Belief is not evidence. * A US Court has no authority to provide the relief requested by the