Re: [AFMUG] Lets talk about Omnis

2015-09-29 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
got some links? On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:51 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: > What about Mimosa’s new omnis? > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy > /sarcasm > *Sent:* Monday, September 28, 2015 11:28 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com >

Re: [AFMUG] Father and son discussion

2015-09-29 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I wouldn't say last resort... You're far more independent of external things breaking your link if your FOB has, let's say, a 2.4m flyaway X-band VSAT. The only thing you need is a reliable source of electricity. Where I have seen tropo used is to establish a secondary or tertiary link to the

Re: [AFMUG] Lets talk about Omnis

2015-09-29 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
jesus H christ On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 2:44 AM, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > They won't be available until next year... > > > On Tuesday, September 29, 2015, Rory Conaway > wrote: > >> What about Mimosa’s new omnis? >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >>

[AFMUG] Lets talk about Omnis

2015-09-29 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Friends dont let friends use omnis, but lets face facts, is a dick like me really capable of being a friend? Whats good in the various bands/systems? 3ghz legitimate is going to be a dual slant (320/450) I assume 5ghz probably has a ton of options, 450/epmp is what Im ost concerned with, but

Re: [AFMUG] Lets talk about Omnis

2015-09-29 Thread Rory Conaway
What about Mimosa’s new omnis? Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 11:28 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Lets talk about Omnis Friends dont let friends use omnis, but lets face facts, is a dick like me really

Re: [AFMUG] Lets talk about Omnis

2015-09-29 Thread Jason McKemie
They won't be available until next year... On Tuesday, September 29, 2015, Rory Conaway wrote: > What about Mimosa’s new omnis? > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com > ] *On Behalf Of *That >

Re: [AFMUG] Smokestack towers

2015-09-29 Thread Jeremy
Ok, the stacks are abandoned and not in use. Crane with a man basket for a day is $800, half a day is $400. The inside is pretty dirty, and I have no intention of going inside of it. I am planning to run shielded liquitite up the side. I don't want to put breakout boxes every 10-15' like I do

Re: [AFMUG] Smokestack towers

2015-09-29 Thread Eric Kuhnke
You price out 200' of caged ladder and installation on a 120 year old brick structure??? On Sep 28, 2015 7:40 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > Get a mason to inspect it, have them install a caged ladder if its safe > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Jeremy

Re: [AFMUG] Lets talk about Omnis

2015-09-29 Thread Daniel White
Alpha also makes a great 3.65GHz Omni (AW3089). Airspan and Telrad deployments significantly rely on them. If you’re doing 4x4 MIMO, you need to deploy two of them together. The tri-sector antennas are also pretty cool if you’re looking for the Omni footprint but performance of sector

Re: [AFMUG] Link Status

2015-09-29 Thread Dan Sullivan
Hi SmarterBroadband, Today ePMP does not provide a "count" for how many times the ethernet link has gone up and down. We do provide a trap every time an up or a down event happens via RFC1213. Dan ePMP Software Manager From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Smokestack towers

2015-09-29 Thread Chuck McCown
The thing about the inside is that it is protected from wind. So you could use a cable with power, fiber, data etc all in one and just drop it in the middle with a grip at the top. No need for conduit that way. I had a custom cable molded for what I did. Cable went up and over a pulley so

[AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Keefe John
This website just popped up today. The product looks very exciting! I can't wait to find out more about it. https://sonar.software/ https://sonar.community/t/announcing-sonar/30 Keefe John Ethoplex

Re: [AFMUG] Smokestack towers

2015-09-29 Thread Chuck McCown
I would build a rubber tired trolley that will roll up the side of the smokestack. You can lower it to work on the radios and use the cable to pull it back up. Then you only need to go up and attach the pulley one time. If there is no activity in the smokestack, you can run the cable up the

Re: [AFMUG] Smokestack towers

2015-09-29 Thread Rory Conaway
The biggest lift I’ve seen is around 180’. From there you are looking at a crane for $10K per day. Almost cheaper to get a helicopter at that point. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 4:14 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Smokestack towers

2015-09-29 Thread Chuck McCown
I would put everything on the trolly. That way you can lower the radio and all. From: Jeremy Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 7:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Smokestack towers Ok, the stacks are abandoned and not in use. Crane with a man basket for a day is $800, half a

Re: [AFMUG] Lets talk about Omnis

2015-09-29 Thread Stefan Englhardt
The Ubiquity omnis work but signal is very different on H and V. Nevertheless I see 256QAM on one mile with AMO-5-G13 Rocket AC PTMP Nanobeam 19ac 20MHz Channel 36db EIRP in 5.8 135Mbit UDP 100 Mbit TCP to speedtest.net with NAT enabled on the Nanobeam. Upstream was between 50-90

Re: [AFMUG] Smokestack towers

2015-09-29 Thread Lewis Bergman
You can build a 300 for tower cheaper than putting a caged last on that thing. I think you are on the right track. Insurance and backups. Insurance should be cheap adding it to what you already have. Maybe a cheaper alternative if you want to be able to climb it are pegs and a safety climb. Pegs

Re: [AFMUG] Lets talk about Omnis

2015-09-29 Thread Mark Radabaugh
There are a number of good options in 5.7. KP makes a decent dual slant 3.65 omni for the 450 AP. Works well enough. Don't expect much more than about 2-3 miles range. Mark On 9/29/15 2:27 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: Friends dont let friends use omnis, but lets face facts, is a dick

Re: [AFMUG] Father and son discussion

2015-09-29 Thread Lewis Bergman
Damn. When I was in the Marines we only had one Comm if you don't include yelling at each other. Must be nice. On Mon, Sep 28, 2015, 10:00 PM David Milholen wrote: I know DOD will still use those older tropos for a last resort and in a theater of ops the will deploy a

Re: [AFMUG] Lets talk about Omnis

2015-09-29 Thread Stefan Englhardt
Not available and not real omnis but polestyle sectors. I would like to have them. - GENIAS INTERNET -- www.genias.net -- Stefan Englhardt Email: s...@genias.net Dr. Gesslerstr. 20 D-93051 Regensburg Tel: +49 941

Re: [AFMUG] Lets talk about Omnis

2015-09-29 Thread Stefan Englhardt
>Friends dont let friends use omnis, but lets face facts, is a dick like me >really capable of being a friend? >Whats good in the various bands/systems? >3ghz legitimate is going to be a dual slant (320/450) I assume We use a poleantenna from AlphaWireless which contains 3 slanted

Re: [AFMUG] Smokestack towers

2015-09-29 Thread Rory Conaway
Wow, we paid $5G’s 5 years ago for 180’. For $800, get the crane. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 6:57 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Smokestack towers Ok, the stacks are abandoned and not in use. Crane with a man

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Keefe John
Maybe he's operating from a moonbase...or russia. On 9/29/2015 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Wonder how Simon is getting around Bertram's 5000 mile non compete exclusion zone? -Original Message- From: Keefe John Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 8:14 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Lets talk about Omnis

2015-09-29 Thread Mathew Howard
There are a few different options for 5ghz, the best ones I've found are the ones Chuck sells (which are also sold by several other manufacturers, like KPP for one), the UBNT's are probably the next best. Stay away from the ARC 5ghz omnis - they have horrible patterns. Either of those will work

Re: [AFMUG] Smokestack towers

2015-09-29 Thread Jeremy
Yes, that is a small lift. That is the cheapest alternative. I am just covering options. We have rented a crane on numerous occasions. I am just looking at turnaround time in the case of an outage. If we have to wait on scheduling the 300' crane it is going to take a few days. I can get the

Re: [AFMUG] Smokestack towers

2015-09-29 Thread Rory Conaway
Come to think of it, we pay more than that for an 85’ man-life in Phoenix. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 7:20 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Smokestack towers Wow, we paid $5G’s 5 years ago for 180’. For $800,

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Lewis Bergman
Maybe he got good advice from a lawyer. I am not one but my understanding is that a noncompete can't be so broad as to prevent future employment, which moving out of the country would definably qualify as. On Tue, Sep 29, 2015, 9:19 AM Keefe John wrote: > Maybe he's

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Chuck McCown
Wonder how Simon is getting around Bertram's 5000 mile non compete exclusion zone? -Original Message- From: Keefe John Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 8:14 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar This website just popped up today. The product looks very

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Simon Westlake
Oh, I thought you were talking about the bit where they figured out the 'inside out' compression algorithm. On 9/29/2015 10:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Did you watch it? The end of the season in the court room - the big company had such a massive non compete that the judge closed the case

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Josh Luthman
Did you watch it? The end of the season in the court room - the big company had such a massive non compete that the judge closed the case against both parties. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Simon

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Josh Luthman
Lol... Here is where the concept was first realized. NSFW! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k540vOiipUM Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Simon Westlake wrote: > Oh, I

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Steve
Can we get any more details? Screen shots? Etas? Roadmaps? Like is this a fork of Powercode or from the ground up? - Original Message - From: "Simon Westlake" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 11:04:37 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Simon Westlake
It's from Silicon Valley. It's not on Netflix, it's an HBO show. On 9/29/2015 10:37 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: That was funny. What show is this? What channel? Netflix? *From:* Josh Luthman *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2015 9:12 AM *To:* af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Smokestack towers

2015-09-29 Thread Jeremy
We must have great deals on cranes around here. I can get a 60' Genie for $45 an hour, or $925 a week locally, and then just go up 60'. Not sure that is going to be high enough though. That includes delivery and dropoff/pickup with a semi. On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Rory Conaway

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Josh Luthman
Reminds me of Silicon Valley. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 29, 2015 10:32 AM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > Maybe he got good advice from a lawyer. I am not one but my understanding > is that a

Re: [AFMUG] Smokestack towers

2015-09-29 Thread Josh Luthman
Isn't that a small lift, not a crane? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 29, 2015 10:33 AM, "Jeremy" wrote: > We must have great deals on cranes around here. I can get a 60' Genie for > $45 an hour, or

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Simon Westlake
I don't dare ask which part. On 9/29/2015 9:39 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Reminds me of Silicon Valley. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 29, 2015 10:32 AM, "Lewis Bergman"

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Steve
So no PHP then.. :) - Original Message - From: "Simon Westlake" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 11:37:27 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar I'll be sharing stuff on the list, forum and blog as time goes on. Nothing just

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Chuck McCown
COBOL, bad flashback bad flashback... -Original Message- From: Simon Westlake Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 9:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar Mostly COBOL ON COGS http://www.coboloncogs.org/HOME.HTM On 9/29/2015 10:45 AM, Bill

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Simon Westlake
I'll be sharing stuff on the list, forum and blog as time goes on. Nothing just yet, but we are bringing the first few early access participants in who won't be in NDA, so they are free to share anything they want as well. No, it's all original code built on completely different technology

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Josh Luthman
We've all seen Simon's work. It'll be extremely attractive HTML5 from libraries. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > It's probably all written in Java... > >

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Wow, why not just write it in Modula II? -Sterling -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 9:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar COBOL, bad flashback bad

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Simon Westlake
It's written in stuff, and it does stuff. It's actually very interesting so far, as a lot of the things I've been working on are finding good ways to scale individual tasks to a high level without needing crazy hardware. Which isn't always successful, but it's pretty fun when it is. On

Re: [AFMUG] Father and son discussion

2015-09-29 Thread David
What I mean by last resort is that is not used as a primary or even a secondary anymore due to the fact of its capabilities. It will do some voice trunk(s) and a very dismal amount of data. So, In some cases it may actually be a secondary but I dont see primary ever unless its all they have for

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Mike Hammett
Does it have an SFP? :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 11:41:01 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Steve
I was hoping it was FORTRAN - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 11:52:45 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar We've all seen Simon's work. It'll be extremely attractive HTML5 from

Re: [AFMUG] Lets talk about Omnis

2015-09-29 Thread David
Love this guy :) ROFL On 09/29/2015 02:59 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: jesus H christ On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 2:44 AM, Jason McKemie > wrote: They won't be available until next year... On Tuesday,

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Adam Moffett
Hah. Will it be more or less than Powercode? Will it be more or less than Platypus? On 9/29/2015 12:08 PM, Simon Westlake wrote: Yes, I can confidently say that it will cost more than Freeside. On 9/29/2015 11:07 AM, Vlad Sedov wrote: Is it more expensive than Freeside? ehheh Vlad On

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Simon Westlake
Mostly COBOL ON COGS http://www.coboloncogs.org/HOME.HTM On 9/29/2015 10:45 AM, Bill Prince wrote: It's probably all written in Java... bp On 9/29/2015 8:38 AM, Steve wrote: So no PHP then.. :) - Original Message - From: "Simon Westlake"

[AFMUG] Canopy Build 11.1

2015-09-29 Thread Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc
Hey guys, Can someone refresh my memory. What build must I go to on 11.1 OFDM before we can move on up? Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.net What

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy Build 11.1

2015-09-29 Thread Bill Prince
You mean release 11.1 on the PMP430? What do you want to go up to? 13.4? Should only have to pause on 12.x to go to any 13.x. bp On 9/29/2015 8:54 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc wrote: Hey guys, Can someone refresh my memory. What build must I

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Simon Westlake
Yes, I can confidently say that it will cost more than Freeside. On 9/29/2015 11:07 AM, Vlad Sedov wrote: Is it more expensive than Freeside? ehheh Vlad On 9/29/2015 10:37 AM, Simon Westlake wrote: I'll be sharing stuff on the list, forum and blog as time goes on. Nothing just yet, but we

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Steve
Will cure cancer? Will it end world hunger? Will it recover Hillary Clinton's email? - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 12:41:01 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar When is

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Simon Westlake
Yes, when it detects radar, it shuts down. On 9/29/2015 11:41 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: When is the release date? How much processing power does it take? How does it perform in the real world? Will it do DFS? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy,

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Simon Westlake
Oh man, you're really putting me on the spot now. Yes? ;) On 9/29/2015 11:39 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: Hah. Will it be more or less than Powercode? Will it be more or less than Platypus? On 9/29/2015 12:08 PM, Simon Westlake wrote: Yes, I can confidently say that it will cost more than

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Bill Prince
It's probably all written in Java... bp On 9/29/2015 8:38 AM, Steve wrote: So no PHP then.. :) - Original Message - From: "Simon Westlake" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 11:37:27 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New ISP

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Chuck McCown
That was funny. What show is this? What channel? Netflix? From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 9:12 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar Lol... Here is where the concept was first realized. NSFW!

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Josh Luthman
No mention of punch cards yet? Interesting. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Vlad Sedov wrote: > BASIC. > > > Vlad > > On 9/29/2015 11:02 AM, Steve wrote: > >> I was hoping it

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Vlad Sedov
Is it more expensive than Freeside? ehheh Vlad On 9/29/2015 10:37 AM, Simon Westlake wrote: I'll be sharing stuff on the list, forum and blog as time goes on. Nothing just yet, but we are bringing the first few early access participants in who won't be in NDA, so they are free to share

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Josh Luthman
When is the release date? How much processing power does it take? How does it perform in the real world? Will it do DFS? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Josh Luthman
Definitely one of the best shows on today (not literally today...they're between seasons). I'm expecting them to return around April 2016, HBO has renewed it but no dates yet. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Bill Prince
My favorite is banging in bits from the front console. bp On 9/29/2015 8:53 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: Wow, why not just write it in Modula II? -Sterling -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [AFMUG] Link Status

2015-09-29 Thread George Skorup
Dan, Can the hardware give CRC error counts? That would be nice to have in the GUI. It's very helpful on Canopy. On 9/29/2015 8:09 AM, Dan Sullivan wrote: Hi SmarterBroadband, Today ePMP does not provide a �count� for how many times the ethernet link has gone up and down. We do

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Vlad Sedov
BASIC. Vlad On 9/29/2015 11:02 AM, Steve wrote: I was hoping it was FORTRAN - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 11:52:45 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar We've all seen

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread George Skorup
SOON! On 9/29/2015 11:41 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: When is the release date? How much processing power does it take? How does it perform in the real world? Will it do DFS? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Josh Luthman
OK. Why does it have a radar detector? Does it know that speeding is wrong? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Simon Westlake wrote: > Yes, when it detects radar, it shuts

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
that a very non customercentric approach On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Simon Westlake wrote: > The end game will be to enable a user to import their own data however > they want. When we will get to that point, I'm not sure. And all the > formatting of that data and

Re: [AFMUG] OT: 737 on the move

2015-09-29 Thread Mathew Howard
Better than shooting at them in the air, I guess... On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:33 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Cool pictures! > > Hope those people get violently ill. > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: 737 on the move

2015-09-29 Thread Steve Utick
Yep, see the trains coming through Helena Montana often with those on 'em. On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Little known trivia: Between Kansas and Seattle rednecks like to shoot at > them, so every fuselage gets a detailed inspection for bullet

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Simon Westlake
We're changing the game Steve! On 9/29/2015 4:17 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: that a very non customercentric approach On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Simon Westlake > wrote: The end game will be to enable a user to import their

Re: [AFMUG] Link Status

2015-09-29 Thread Mathew Howard
I think it was added fairly recently, it doesn't appear to be in 6.24, so it must have been added somewhere between .24 and .30 2015-09-29 13:19 GMT-05:00 Stefan Englhardt : > We use 6.30 > > > > > Ursprüngliche Nachricht > Von: SmarterBroadband

Re: [AFMUG] DC power for AF5x

2015-09-29 Thread Josh Luthman
For a 24v 5x? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 29, 2015 6:53 PM, "Mark Radabaugh" wrote: > I can guarantee this works: > http://store.packetflux.com/sitemonitor-gigabit-poe-injector-for-airfiber/ > > I have

Re: [AFMUG] DC power for AF5x

2015-09-29 Thread Mathew Howard
I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work with an AF5x - all the airfibers use the same pinout, just different voltages. But I'm not sure why you would want to use it instead of this: http://store.packetflux.com/sitemonitor-4-channel-gigabit-poe-injector-controller/ Which I can guarantee works,

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Also, import from Platypus? -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 2:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar This should be an interesting answer -Original

Re: [AFMUG] OT: 737 on the move

2015-09-29 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I think these move at highest priority and rarely if ever stop on sidings. On Sep 29, 2015 3:54 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Where's the graffiti? > On Sep 29, 2015 4:39 PM, "Steve Utick" wrote: > >> Yep, see the trains coming through Helena Montana

Re: [AFMUG] OT: 737 on the move

2015-09-29 Thread Josh Luthman
Cool pictures! Hope those people get violently ill. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 6:29 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Little known trivia: Between Kansas and Seattle rednecks like to

Re: [AFMUG] DC power for AF5x

2015-09-29 Thread Josh Luthman
:) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 29, 2015 7:14 PM, "Mark Radabaugh" wrote: > hum... maybe I'm behind on the newer Airfiber stuff. Sorry. > > Mark > > On 9/29/15 7:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > For a 24v

Re: [AFMUG] DC power for AF5x

2015-09-29 Thread George Skorup
I was going to swap a set of Rockets with AF5Xs. Then I realized I had over 200' of cable on each end and I didn't want to swap out the PF injectors on both ends. Not to mention changing the Rocket dish OMT. So I ordered some RF Elements easy brackets and put in ePMP's instead. The link was

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Simon Westlake
The end game will be to enable a user to import their own data however they want. When we will get to that point, I'm not sure. And all the formatting of that data and everything else is still up in the air. I really want to let people self manage their systems though. I think it's incredibly

Re: [AFMUG] OT: 737 on the move

2015-09-29 Thread Jaime Solorza
Where's the graffiti? On Sep 29, 2015 4:39 PM, "Steve Utick" wrote: > Yep, see the trains coming through Helena Montana often with those on 'em. > > > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Eric Kuhnke > wrote: > >> Little known trivia: Between Kansas and

Re: [AFMUG] DC power for AF5x

2015-09-29 Thread Mark Radabaugh
I can guarantee this works: http://store.packetflux.com/sitemonitor-gigabit-poe-injector-for-airfiber/ I have had one running on it for months. Hum.. 842mA draw. Power hungry little radio. Mark On 9/29/15 2:57 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Fantastic information guys. Thank you so much for the

Re: [AFMUG] DC power for AF5x

2015-09-29 Thread Mark Radabaugh
hum... maybe I'm behind on the newer Airfiber stuff. Sorry. Mark On 9/29/15 7:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: For a 24v 5x? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 29, 2015 6:53 PM, "Mark Radabaugh"

Re: [AFMUG] DC power for AF5x

2015-09-29 Thread Josh Baird
Yeah, the AF5X only uses 10-17w @ 24V. On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > hum... maybe I'm behind on the newer Airfiber stuff. Sorry. > > Mark > > > On 9/29/15 7:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > For a 24v 5x? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 >

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 9/29/15 7:42 PM, George Skorup wrote: And most IT guys are assholes. Ask me how I know. :) Oh by the way, you're welcome!

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread George Skorup
Stay off my lawn. On 9/29/2015 10:59 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 9/29/15 7:42 PM, George Skorup wrote: And most IT guys are assholes. Ask me how I know. :) Oh by the way, you're welcome!

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Simon Westlake
That's not very nice! On 9/29/2015 9:15 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Most customers are stupid. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *"That One Guy /sarcasm"

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Simon Westlake
Well, I guess the simple solution to being stupid at clothes is to stop getting dressed. On 9/29/2015 9:37 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: This thread apparently. ;-) Clothes for one. I'm sure my fiance has a couple more. I'm sure a few here have a few more as well, but I figured that was a good

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Josh Luthman
Ya. All customers are stupid :) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 29, 2015 10:21 PM, "Simon Westlake" wrote: > That's not very nice! > > On 9/29/2015 9:15 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > Most customers are

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Will it talk to say - a mitrotik - and do fancy things with, i dunno, say, a mikrotik? :) - Original Message - From: Simon Westlake To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar It's written in stuff,

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread George Skorup
And most IT guys are assholes. Ask me how I know. :) On 9/29/2015 9:25 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Ya. All customers are stupid :) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 29, 2015 10:21 PM, "Simon Westlake"

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Simon Westlake
The intent is that provisioning is a reasonably agnostic thing, in that we'll support a bunch of different stuff and you can use what you want. On 9/29/2015 9:26 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: Will it talk to say - a mitrotik - and do fancy things with, i dunno, say, a mikrotik? :) -

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Josh Luthman
N Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 29, 2015 10:41 PM, "Simon Westlake" wrote: > Well, I guess the simple solution to being stupid at clothes is to stop > getting dressed. > > On 9/29/2015 9:37 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Mike Hammett
Naw, not all. I buy some things at which I'm not stupid at. I certainly do buy some things I am stupid at, though. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Simon Westlake
I don't believe that Mike. What are you stupid at? On 9/29/2015 9:31 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Naw, not all. I buy some things at which I'm not stupid at. I certainly do buy some things I am stupid at, though. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Mike Hammett
Most customers are stupid. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 4:17:01 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New ISP

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Mike Hammett
This thread apparently. ;-) Clothes for one. I'm sure my fiance has a couple more. I'm sure a few here have a few more as well, but I figured that was a good seed. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Simon

Re: [AFMUG] Link Status

2015-09-29 Thread SmarterBroadband
Thanks Dan. Adam From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dan Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 6:10 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Link Status Hi SmarterBroadband, Today ePMP does not provide a "count" for how many times the ethernet link has gone up and

Re: [AFMUG] Honda EU2000i vs EU3000iS

2015-09-29 Thread SmarterBroadband
Less mess, easier storage, longer runtimes. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 5:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Honda EU2000i vs EU3000iS You run propane so you don’t have to worry about gas gumming up the carb?

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Brett A Mansfield
Only question I have is will it be beta forever? I'm kinda done with all of this beta crap. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield > On Sep 29, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Josh Luthman > wrote: > > No it's CALLED sonar. Which means it doesn't have it. Isn't that what all > the

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

2015-09-29 Thread Daniel White
It uses Sonar. Geesh. Thank you, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn: Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On

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