Re: [AFMUG] Cogent...

Sometimes sh*t happens. The Level3 we have for one of our ASNs was flaking out regularly from a faulty linecard in MSP a few months back. Last summer the HE we have on the other ASN was going down for 6-12 hours at a time multiple times per week for a month because their POP transport was a single

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: "Dennis Burgess" <dmburg...@linktechs.net> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 10:36:37 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent... Yap, they were not down ,just high latency going though LAX.. issue is LOTS of traffic goes though IAX. Thanks, Dennis Burgess – Network En

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;-) -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 10:18 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent... Sad, so sad. But I'm going to have the best routes, believe me. And Cogent is going to pay for them. Okay

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ktechs.net> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 10:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent... They were back yesterday evening from my observation. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.c

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0, 2016 10:05:16 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent... Is Cogent still down or limping along? On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Seth Mattinen < se...@rollernet.us > wrote: On 9/19/16 6:12 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Charter doesn't have communities you could use to no-export Co

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20, 2016 10:05 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent... Is Cogent still down or limping along? On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us<mailto:se...@rollernet.us>> wrote: On 9/19/16 6:12 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Charter doesn't have communities you

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Is Cogent still down or limping along? On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 9/19/16 6:12 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > >> Charter doesn't have communities you could use to no-export Cogent? >> > > > Oh probably, but we're dropping Charter anyway in a

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On 9/19/16 6:12 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Charter doesn't have communities you could use to no-export Cogent? Oh probably, but we're dropping Charter anyway in a couple months. ~Seth

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Sad, so sad. But I'm going to have the best routes, believe me. And Cogent is going to pay for them. Okay? -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 10:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent

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ook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -- > *From: *"That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Monday, September 19, 2016 10:11:07

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y Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - > From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 8

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om Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 10:11:07 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent... This is what petrifies me about bgp. Right now, half our static allocation hits cogent directly, the other half doesnt, at least we don't have to worry about 50% directly. Other than dropping the cogent peer, wha

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t know about > latency, packet loss, etc. without tweaking by a human or robot. > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2016 8:21 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cogent... > > > >

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They haven’t changed and from my perspective this is nothing new… this is where i use the saying of “vote with your wallets” and something about choosing providers based on price ;) Yeah I know … all providers have issues but I find typically the cheaper transit guys have *more* problems …just

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It would be. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Keefe John" <keefe...@ethoplex.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 9:56:09 PM Subject: Re

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, September 19, 2016 8:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent... Not required, but typically going along with full routes is access to BGP communities. You could fine-tune both what you advertise, what you accept and what your upstreams pass along. You don't have to drop the peer entirely

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Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> *To: *af@afmug.com

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Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 7:21:48 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent... So much for the people who believe

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.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 7:36:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent... Part of "SDN" (vomit.. I can't believe I just used that acronym), is knowing what the options are first. 1 For that you need BGP. 2 Then you need some way of performance testing m

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There is an outages email list... On Sep 19, 2016 3:48 PM, "Robert Andrews" wrote: > Anybody hear what's going on with Cogent..?? Lots' of packet loss on all > their cross connects. I am hearing a lot of people having problems with > financial transactions ( IP CC

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ay, September 19, 2016 6:03:19 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent... On 9/19/16 13:48, Robert Andrews wrote: > Anybody hear what's going on with Cogent..?? Lots' of packet loss on > all their cross connects. I am hearing a lot of people having problems > with financial transactions

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t Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 3:58:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent... I’m hearing through other folks that they are having serious routing issues

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Part of "SDN" (vomit.. I can't believe I just used that acronym), is knowing what the options are first. 1 For that you need BGP. 2 Then you need some way of performance testing multiple paths from various points. Then you need to use information from 1 & 2 to programmatically select $bestPath

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On 9/19/16 17:21, Ken Hohhof wrote: So much for the people who believe taking full BGP routes will automatically choose the best routes. (Why does "best routes" sound like something Trump would say?) Latency or loss isn't part of the best path selection algorithm, so anyone who expects

Re: [AFMUG] Cogent...

19, 2016 6:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent... On 9/19/16 13:48, Robert Andrews wrote: > Anybody hear what's going on with Cogent..?? Lots' of packet loss on > all their cross connects. I am hearing a lot of people having > problems with financial transactions ( IP C

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How is cogent still operating at the level they do. It's like I'm the guy in charge of their network. On Sep 19, 2016 6:03 PM, "Seth Mattinen" wrote: > On 9/19/16 13:48, Robert Andrews wrote: > >> Anybody hear what's going on with Cogent..?? Lots' of packet loss on >> all

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On 9/19/16 13:48, Robert Andrews wrote: Anybody hear what's going on with Cogent..?? Lots' of packet loss on all their cross connects. I am hearing a lot of people having problems with financial transactions ( IP CC readers ) failing and connectivity to Citrix and such failing.. IS this the

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Theres something in LA that one of our providers notified us of On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 3:58 PM, Paul Stewart wrote: > I’m hearing through other folks that they are having serious routing > issues again .. they had issues the other day too … > > I was talking with someone

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I’m hearing through other folks that they are having serious routing issues again .. they had issues the other day too … I was talking with someone a few minutes ago that was seeing LA to Chicago traffic going via Europe and weird stuff like that… > On Sep 19, 2016, at 4:48 PM, Robert Andrews

[AFMUG] Cogent...

Anybody hear what's going on with Cogent..?? Lots' of packet loss on all their cross connects. I am hearing a lot of people having problems with financial transactions ( IP CC readers ) failing and connectivity to Citrix and such failing.. IS this the new world order? Robert

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ent but they don’t any > longer. At the time, we met most of their requirements though (but not all)… > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: July 2, 2016 2:34 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent > > I would als

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Hammett Sent: July 2, 2016 2:34 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent I would also like to point out that very few networks on this list (I'm surprised you are) would have the scale to peer with Cogent. I ws referring to using BGP communities to limit one's Cogent transit

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NDA’s in effect so can’t post specific numbers … From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser Sent: July 2, 2016 6:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent I agree, Cogent does not want a PNI they want to sell you their transit and don't care what you do

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Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 12:34:51 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent Not sure what there is to take advantage of … we prefer peering always ov

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puting Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 12:34:51 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent Not sure what there is to take advantage

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transit traffic continues to decline at a very noticeable rate From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: July 2, 2016 11:14 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent The number of large outages Telia has had in the US in the past few months is staggering

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. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: July 2, 2016 8:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent I think you need some BGP tweaks to better take advantage of Cogent, given the scale of their network. <http://bgp.he.net/report/peers> http://bgp.

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//www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------ > *From: *"Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Sa

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Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 7:23:50 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent That number of directly connected customers is dropping … we used to buy t

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: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent Cogent is great as long as you have another peer to balance out “issues”. They have a shitload of the internet as directly connected customers. -PK From: Af [ <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, J

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232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 6:52:04 PM > Subject: [AFMUG] Cogent > Does anyone have experience with Cogent as a p

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e" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com');>> > *To: *af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');> > *Sent: *Friday, July 1, 2016 5:52:04 PM > *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cogent > > Does anyone have experience with Cogent as a primary upstream? Good, bad, > ugly? I assume the service location makes some difference as well. > > > > -Jason > > >

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sp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _ From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com <mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 5:52:04 PM Subject: [AFMU

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Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 5:52:04 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Cogent Does anyone have experience with Cogent as a

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I would never use them. Ever. I have a upstream issue with them on my Centurlylink circuit. Those 2 idiots have been arguing on that peer agreement for 6 months now. Craig Schmaderer Cell 402-380-1245 Skywave Wireless, Inc. On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 6:29 PM -0500, "That One Guy /sarcasm"

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our upstream dumped them On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 6:22 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Expect that significant chunks of the internet might be unreachable for > large periods of time due to Cogent's occasional peering disputes with > other large tier-1/2 ISPs. > > > > On Fri, Jul

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Expect that significant chunks of the internet might be unreachable for large periods of time due to Cogent's occasional peering disputes with other large tier-1/2 ISPs. On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 3:52 PM, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > Does anyone have experience with

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Service changes take forever. Sales runs everything. 14% of our routes have a best hop to them, others to HE. (Telia added soon) On Jul 1, 2016 5:52 PM, "Jason McKemie" wrote: > Does anyone have experience with Cogent as a primary upstream? Good, bad, > ugly? I

[AFMUG] Cogent

Does anyone have experience with Cogent as a primary upstream? Good, bad, ugly? I assume the service location makes some difference as well. -Jason

[AFMUG] Cogent

What is going rate for gig of Cogent at the datacenter?

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Last we checked $700 on one year contract and free NRC On Saturday, September 27, 2014, Matt via Af af@afmug.com wrote: What is going rate for gig of Cogent at the datacenter? -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi Like us on

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$700-1k Sent from my iPhone On Sep 27, 2014, at 3:56 PM, Darin Steffl via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Last we checked $700 on one year contract and free NRC On Saturday, September 27, 2014, Matt via Af af@afmug.com wrote: What is going rate for gig of Cogent at the datacenter? --

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Should be able to get it around $700-750 On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af af@afmug.com wrote: $700-1k Sent from my iPhone On Sep 27, 2014, at 3:56 PM, Darin Steffl via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Last we checked $700 on one year contract and free NRC