Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ Consumer Wireless Router

[Jason Wilson]

Semd Mike Hammett after them. He will get SFP's put on your refrigerator
soon.
On Jun 4, 2016 11:52 AM, "Sterling Jacobson"  wrote:

> Nice.
>
>
>
> Looks like it won’t be approved for production until September, and who
> knows when routers will implement it.
>
>
>
> Probably a couple years before it’s scale makes it cheap and Mikrotik
> adopts it…
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 4, 2016 12:49 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ Consumer Wireless Router
>
>
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2.5GBASE-T_and_5GBASE-T
>
> On Jun 4, 2016 1:45 PM, "Sterling Jacobson"  wrote:
>
> So are you saying there is a standard coming out that can do over 1Gbps
> over Cat5e?
>
>
>
> I would like to see that sooner than later.
>
>
>
> I can’t sell anything above a 1 Gigabit over existing house wire because
> there are no transceivers or routers that handle more than GigE.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 4, 2016 12:41 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ Consumer Wireless Router
>
>
>
> 802.11ad is going to bring 5Gbps and 10Gbps Ethernet into the
> mainstream... in about 3-5 years.
>
> Most devices aren't but 1x1 or 2x2 on 802.11ac, which drastically limits
> their bandwidth, even on 80mhz and 80+80 channels. An 8x8 radio on 802.11AC
> 3rd gen with all clients and the AP capable of MU-MIMO with a bunch of
> devices on it? Then more than a gig or more than a 1x1G lag makes sense.
> Those devices will have 5Gbps over copper support using the existing
> copper, maybe even 2x5Gbps ports.
>
> Still, those devices will be plugged into layer3 switches for proper
> east-west traffic speeds at line rate, that can support POE 802.3at and the
> 5Gbps over copper rates. They will likely have several 5Gbps ports, and a
> handful of 25Gbps over copper.
>
> You won't see much SFP+ in homes. WAN ports for CPE devices will be
> limited to 1Gbps for the next few years at a minimum. 5years before you see
> a 5Gbps WAN port would be my guess, and even then they will be rare.
>
> Sources - my own research, and comments from several router manufacturers
> and FTTH vendors.
>
> On Jun 4, 2016 1:18 PM, "Sterling Jacobson"  wrote:
>
> You sound like the guy in 2003 that told me no one will ever need more
> than 10Mbps, why would a home want an internet connection at 10Mbps.
>
>
>
> I’m in a business building infrastructure for the next 10-20 years, so
> this is where I am looking at 10Gbps to the home.
>
>
>
> There are actual ISP’s that sell 10Gbps connections.
>
>
>
> I have several customers with a 10Gbps SFP+ connection inside their home
> already.
>
>
>
> Do they use it all the time? No, they don’t, not even close.
>
>
>
> Can they get 9+Gbps on speedtest.net?
>
>
>
> Yes, they can.
>
>
>
> With a desktop computer with a SFP+ card in it.
>
>
>
> What I want is a high powered wireless router that can do close to 1Gbps
> wireless (which they have), AND have an SFP+ internet port so it can do
> over 1Gbps NAT traffic.
>
>
>
> I suppose IPv6 routed would be a lot easier on the router CPU in the
> future, so that makes it more likely.
>
>
>
> They just need to put a SFP+ interface on one of these bad boys:
>
>
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/RT-AC5300-Wireless-Tri-Band-AiProtection-Complete/dp/B0167HG1V6
>
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>
>
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>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Darin Steffl
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 4, 2016 6:00 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ Consumer Wireless Router
>
>
>
> There is not a single residential sub who would need a 10 gig home router.
> That's insane and router manufacturers aren't gonna make one until more
> isps are selling 10 gig. Anyway it's silly to even think a single home
> needs a gig. They still only average about the same usage as a 20 mbps
> wireless sub.
>
> Sent from my smartphone. Please excuse any typos.
>
> On Jun 4, 2016 2:22 AM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
>
> I was about to get to that actually :) I'm still not sure where his gripe
> lies. I think it's something along the lines of wanting a 10G "home router".
>
> On Jun 4, 2016 1:28 AM, "Gino Villarini"  wrote:
>
> thats the reason for the push for 5 and 25 Gbps Ethernet
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 12:44 AM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
> I'm quite confused. Can you explain exactly what you want to do, and in
> your opinion, where the problem lies?
>
> On Jun 3, 2016 11:42 PM, "Sterling Jacobson"  wrote:
>
> I just find it frustrating that the top of the line ASUS/Netgear/DLINK
> wireless AC routers can actually do close to 1000Mbps wireless and have 4
> GigE ports, but are limited to 1 GigE internet port.
>
>
>
> Is there a UBNT or other wireless AC super system that can dual transport
> the wireless to 

Re: [AFMUG] Oh smart math guys

[Jason Wilson]

AP Site Antenna AGL: 4511.5 ft.
Rental Office Antenna AGL: 3937.3 ft
Given that your relevant data is not correct unless you are on 3000' towers
or better you may want to look at your Above Ground Level (AGL) numbers.

In aviation <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviation>, atmospheric sciences
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_sciences> and broadcasting
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcasting>, a *height above ground level*
 (*AGL*[1]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Height_above_ground_level#cite_note-CAP413-1>)
is a height <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Height#In_aviation> measured
with respect to the underlying ground surface
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_surface>. This is as opposed to
altitude/elevation above mean sea level
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Above_mean_sea_level> (AMSL)


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On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> Assuming 4.74 miles @ 5700 MHz
>
> 23dbm tx + 1 db cable loss + 15 dbi sector - 0 cable loss + 23 dbi rx
> antenna = -65
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I am not installing .WISP has his crew.they can handle this
>> simple shot.  No trees, no buildings, nada in path but air
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390
>>
>> On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 12:21 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Frequency and antenna gains?
>>>
>>> Also if this is LOS and you have it aimed right the only thing that
>>> matters is what I asked - none of the other figures matter =P
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Jaime Solorza <
>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> How high is signal path at 1/4 mile from Rental Office side off ground
>>>> level?
>>>>
>>>> Path Distance:   4.74 miles
>>>>
>>>> AP Site elevation AMSL: 4491.5 ft.
>>>>
>>>> AP Site Antenna AGL: 4511.5 ft.
>>>>
>>>> Rental Office Site:  3917.3 ft. AMSL
>>>>
>>>> Rental Office Antenna AGL: 3937.3 ft.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> AP Antenna to Rental Office Mechanical Downtilt:  -1.3403 degrees
>>>>
>>>> Rental Office Antenna to AP Antenna Mechanical Uptilt:  +1.2888 Degrees
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tak!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>>> 915-861-1390
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium installation

[Jason Wilson]

Well you have good taste in Beer.  Victoria is getting harder to find here
in N California.


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On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 6:19 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Installed a ptp force 200 link nlos and worked well on two towers and
> sector with epmp on remote tower...then two force 180s and two epmp
> hotspots at border patrol detention for guard time clocks and locator
> watches...in 104 weather..   more stuff tomorrow .  I must say I was
> impressed with nlos performance..getting 47mbps from 50mbps pipe
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium installation

[Jason Wilson]

I am looking to move from Mikrotik to Cambium.  Sell me on it.  I would
rather hear it from an ISP then a sales guy.


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On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Lots to do
> On Jun 22, 2016 7:27 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I am eclectic...next a PBR and then Tecate... oh yes
>> On Jun 22, 2016 7:21 PM, "Jason Wilson" <ja...@remotelylocated.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well you have good taste in Beer.  Victoria is getting harder to find
>>> here in N California.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jason Wilson
>>> Remotely Located
>>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>>> 530-651-1736
>>> 530-748-9608 Cell
>>> www.remotelylocated.com
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 6:19 PM, Jaime Solorza <
>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Installed a ptp force 200 link nlos and worked well on two towers and
>>>> sector with epmp on remote tower...then two force 180s and two epmp
>>>> hotspots at border patrol detention for guard time clocks and locator
>>>> watches...in 104 weather..   more stuff tomorrow .  I must say I was
>>>> impressed with nlos performance..getting 47mbps from 50mbps pipe
>>>>
>>>
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Tree? Ubiquitree?

[Jason Wilson]

No Photo either.



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On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 3:48 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> (Not my photo...)
>

Re: [AFMUG] PSA - check your generators!

[Jason Wilson]

Propane/Gas Hybrid electric start Today only.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DuroMax-XP4850EH-Hybrid-Portable-Dual-Fuel-Propane-Gas-Camping-RV-Generator/171503114601?rmvSB=true


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On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

> We actually have one of those in town here too... I think it's 110 octane,
> unfortunately, I've never had a use for it :P
>
> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com>
> wrote:
>
>> We have a station here in Reno that sells 110 and 114 Octane racing fuel
>> at the pump...   Vro  And $$
>>
>> On 04/04/2016 11:14 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>
>>> We have quite a few stations up here that sell ethanol free gas...
>>> mostly 91 octane, but a few have 87 too... of course you pay quite a bit
>>> extra for it.
>>>
>>> On Apr 4, 2016 1:10 PM, "George Skorup" <geo...@cbcast.com
>>> <mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Not in the midwest. All blends are E10.
>>>
>>> On 4/4/2016 12:55 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah anywhere where boating or motor sports are popular you might
>>>> find ethanol free.
>>>> I also seem to think the higher octane fuels won't have ethanol,
>>>> but I can't remember why I think that.
>>>>
>>>> On 4/4/2016 1:51 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yup. If you have a marina near you, they will most likely have
>>>>> ethanol-free gas. You'll pay a little bit more for it though. We
>>>>> keep a couple cheap gas inverter generators around for spares,
>>>>> but we primarily use the Yamaha w/ propane.
>>>>>
>>>>> My truck is apparently so carbon'd up that I cannot run the
>>>>> E10/87 (87 octane my ass) without knocking and the PCM retarding
>>>>> the timing. I'm running some Shell Nitro with extra detergent
>>>>> added to try to clean it up. If I could find some of the old GM
>>>>> Top Engine Cleaner, I'd do that, but the EPA banned it. So they
>>>>> give us shit gas and no means to clean it. There's nowhere near
>>>>> enough detergent in any of the regular gasolines. I'm not pulling
>>>>> the heads to clean the cylinders, F that. I did find out that my
>>>>> truck shuts down at 98MPH too. Lame.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/4/2016 12:21 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The labels say no ethanol!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 4, 2016 12:57 PM, "George Skorup" <geo...@cbcast.com
>>>>>> <mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We've started our little Yamaha on a 20# tank at -15F
>>>>>> before. It can be a bitch to get started because of the
>>>>>> protection valves in tanks now. We had one old tank without
>>>>>> the valve and it would fire up on the first pull every time.
>>>>>> Now it takes 5-6 pulls using the choke to get that valve open.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One thing I found out with all of my truck woes and shit
>>>>>> gasoline is that small/carb engines were never designed to
>>>>>> run the ethanol blends. The ethanol is corrosive to
>>>>>> non-stainless fuel systems. This is why all FlexFuel
>>>>>> certified systems are stainless delivery, injector rails, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/4/2016 8:22 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, I have run lots of propane generators.  Here are a
>>>>>> few problems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Temperature.  If it is -20F outside, you have to have a
>>>>>> very very large tank to generate enough vapor to keep
>>>>>

Re: [AFMUG] Refurb UPS dealers?

[Jason Wilson]

Try this guy on Ebay from Carson City Nevada.  I have done buisness with
him before.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_sop=10&_ssn=uspowerups&_pgn=2&_skc=50=nc

Jason


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On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 6:00 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Because I don't want to buy a bunch of cheap and used, for example
> SUA1500RM2U UPS, and discover their charge controller or inverter are
> messed up. Or it's had a battery swell and leak all over insides.
>
> something like this, plus $25 100BaseTX IP management card:
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/APC-SUA1500RM2U-SMART-UPS-1500VA-980W-120V-USB-RACKMOUNT-BACKUP-NEW-BATTERIES-/291583017738?hash=item43e3b3c30a:g:tEsAAOSwoydWnp79
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 5:57 PM, can...@believewireless.net <
> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>
>> Why not buy the batteries on your own?
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Refurb UPS dealers?

[Jason Wilson]

A few guys swear by these
APS750 Tripp Lite $282 Provantage
​The drawback is no snmp monitoring, but that could be overcome.  You add
the battery combination to suit your environment 12vdc bank.

Jason​



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On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 8:21 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I don't know about other's experience but tripplite seems to make a better
> product across the board.
>
> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016, 9:53 PM Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yeah. At scale it is necessary to be able to buy the same model (or very
>> close) for consistent deployment and maintenance. Same battery trays, same
>> batteries, same management interface. That is why I'm specifically only
>> looking at Tripplite and APC.
>>
>> After doing some more research it appears there are at least a half dozen
>> reputable vendors. As more enterprise type customers move their server
>> stuff to the cloud (err, butt?) a lot of used UPS end up going to
>> electronics recycling places.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 7:14 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Of course i am not a dealer but i have an unused 2U Eaton. I think it is
>>> 1500 but i would have to check. Sounds like you need more than one.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016, 8:24 PM Jason Wilson <ja...@remotelylocated.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>> Try this guy on Ebay from Carson City Nevada.  I have done buisness with
>>>> him before.
>>>> http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_sop=10&_ssn=uspowerups&_pgn=2&_skc=50=nc
>>>>
>>>> Jason
>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jason Wilson
>>>> Remotely Located
>>>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>>>> 530-651-1736
>>>> 530-748-9608 Cell
>>>> www.remotelylocated.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 6:00 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Because I don't want to buy a bunch of cheap and used, for example
>>>>> SUA1500RM2U UPS, and discover their charge controller or inverter are
>>>>> messed up. Or it's had a battery swell and leak all over insides.
>>>>>
>>>>> something like this, plus $25 100BaseTX IP management card:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/APC-SUA1500RM2U-SMART-UPS-1500VA-980W-120V-USB-RACKMOUNT-BACKUP-NEW-BATTERIES-/291583017738?hash=item43e3b3c30a:g:tEsAAOSwoydWnp79
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 5:57 PM, can...@believewireless.net <
>>>>> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why not buy the batteries on your own?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>

Re: [AFMUG] Super long rack screw

[Jason Wilson]

6" lengths of 1/2 steel acting as a standoff will help hold some of that
weight.
http://www.lowes.com/pd_29049-37672-11736_1z0xzpb__?productId=3055603=1


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On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 8:28 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> Is no one going to ask why he needs it?!?!?!
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 11:26 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> stack em
>>
>> http://www.grainger.com/product/6NZY1?gclid=Cj0KEQjw8u23BRCg6YnzmJmPqYgBEiQALf_XzQgSIXhjTG4TIL4kOUU_DbDVvNyiOxvk2dOmAQBwxNkaAjOK8P8HAQ_mmc=PPC:GOOGLEPLAA-_-Fasteners-_-Spacers%20and%20Standoffs-_-6NZY1!2966!3!50916684477!!!g!65506925021!_id=VjevfgAAAa3mIFB@:20160330152628:s
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 10:25 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> would something as small as 10-32 at 6 inches support the weigt without
>>> bending at the thread?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 10:52 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think even here in the US, square holes and M6 cage nuts and screws
>>>> are pretty much standard.  At least in data centers.  Telco might still use
>>>> 12-24.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 29, 2016 9:45 PM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Super long rack screw
>>>>
>>>> I've seen lots of M6 in the stuff from China, and of course 12-24 and
>>>> 10-32 from US sources...  But never M5.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 7:41 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Rack screw can be 10-32, 12-24, M5, M6.  And rack rail can be
>>>>> threaded, round hole, square hole.  Too many options.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message- From: Cassidy B. Larson
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 9:24 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Super long rack screw
>>>>>
>>>>> I know on Cisco switches you could turn the ears around and the holes
>>>>> would line up so you’d get more switch in front of the rails.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 29, 2016, at 8:22 PM, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's a good idea.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If there are not holes, is there a small screw type that is short and
>>>>>> self-tapping?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not sure the best way to mount the ears if the holes for the ears
>>>>>> don't exist on the switch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 8:10 PM
>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Super long rack screw
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Add mounting ears farther back on the switch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: Sterling Jacobson
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 7:57 PM
>>>>>> To: 'af@afmug.com'
>>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Super long rack screw
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is really specific; don't ask why I need it :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I need a standard rack threaded screw that looks like a 6 to 7
>>>>>> inch long motherboard standoff screw.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So it would stand a 1U switch forward from the 19" rack about 6-7
>>>>>> inches.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I tried standard rack standoff modules, but the space is too limiting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Nice enclosures

[Jason Wilson]

http://www.e-boxenclosures.com/



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On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 7:08 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Company is called Ebox... stainless...
>

Re: [AFMUG] My Friday good deed/deal...

[Jason Wilson]

I really need a Nevada Address.  We cannot get any of the good stuff.


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On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 7:19 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <par...@cyberbroadband.net
> wrote:

>
> sold!
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Friday, May 20, 2016 8:59 AM
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] My Friday good deed/deal...
>
>
> http://slickdeals.net/f/8761983-duromax-xp4850eh-propane-gas-generator-w-electric-start-325-free-shipping
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Odd issue - Mimosa B11 and Mikrotik

[Jason Wilson]

Rory had that issue with SME if the mimosa ptmp the CPU in the laptop was
maxing out.
On May 12, 2016 11:39 AM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:

> http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Wiki/Fasttrack#Description
>
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 1:37 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
> > I don't know much about the CCRs. Do they have FastPath and FastTrack
> > enabled by default?
> >
> > On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Gino Villarini 
> wrote:
> >> no
> >>
> >> simple config, static ip on the wan, private ip on lan, nat
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Did you copy the config from one CCR to the other?
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 1:24 PM, Gino Villarini 
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > Got a customer with a dedicated pipe, 250 Mbps
> >>> >
> >>> > Mimosa B11 to a CCR
> >>> >
> >>> > BW test from the CCR to our head router provides the BW no problem.
> >>> >
> >>> > But Laptop (capable) behind CCR in NAT mode, throughput dies at about
> >>> > 120
> >>> > Mbps
> >>> >
> >>> > Changed routers, same issue
> >>> >
> >>> > Any ideas?
> >>
> >>
>

Re: [AFMUG] American Tower

[Jason Wilson]

875.00 4 Sectors and 2 3' dishes.  Their minimum is 500.00.

​
Jeffrey Deal
WISP National Strategic Manager
Email
​
jeffrey.d...@americantower.com
Phone
​
6022847443 (Mobile)

​ATC is a WISPA vendor Member.  They have WISP account managers in every
one of their markets.

Jason​



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On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Justin Wilson <li...@mtin.net> wrote:

> It’s all about numbers.  That $500 tower for zig generated over $3,000 in
> revenue a month.  We were at 275 feet.  Didn’t make sense to build our own
> because we needed the height.   Another tower generated over 6k in revenue
> and cost $700 a month. Both were American Tower sites.
>
> These were in counties where zoning for any tower over 40 feet was crazy.
> We are talking million dollar homes and towers were unsightly.  Sure, you
> can make the argument that $700 a month would pay for a tower.  But,
> building costs $ and time too.  We figured it would be 18 months before a
> tower was profitable in those instances.  No zoning, no permits, no
> hassle.  Pay the money and install customers.
>
> At the same time we had towers we traded service or paid $1 a foot.
>
>
> Justin Wilson
> j...@mtin.net
>
> ---
> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
>
> http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
>
> On May 2, 2016, at 7:59 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Amen to beer
> On May 2, 2016 5:39 PM, "Jon Paul Kelley" <jpkel...@ckswireless.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I vote beer.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jon Paul Kelley
>>
>> CKS Wireless
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 02, 2016 6:27 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] American Tower
>>
>>
>>
>> +1000
>>
>>
>>
>> bp
>>
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/2/2016 4:20 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>> I don't want get shot at all
>>
>> On May 2, 2016 5:11 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>
>> A leg shot is one thing, as crutches and prosthetics these days are
>> amazing. Get shot in the gut though? Not only is it INCREDIBLY
>> painful, but you'll have all kinds of internal issues for the rest of
>> your life.
>>
>> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Josh Luthman
>>
>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>> > You'll lose strength in your leg and can't walk.  You can survive a long
>> > time after a gut shot.  More than enough time to get to a hospital.
>> >
>> > Josh Luthman
>> > Office: 937-552-2340
>> > Direct: 937-552-2343
>> > 1100 Wayne St
>> > Suite 1337
>> > Troy, OH 45373
>> >
>> > On May 2, 2016 6:56 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I’ll take the leg...
>> >>
>> >> From: Josh Luthman
>> >> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 4:53 PM
>> >> To: af@afmug.com
>> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] American Tower
>> >>
>> >> I guess that's one way to look at it.  I look at as saying I'd rather
>> be
>> >> shot in the gut than the leg.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Josh Luthman
>> >> Office: 937-552-2340
>> >> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> >> 1100 Wayne St
>> >> Suite 1337
>> >> Troy, OH 45373
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Justin Wilson <li...@mtin.net> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> It’s much better than the $1000-2000 Crown and SBA typically want for
>> 3
>> >>> sectors and 2 24” dishes.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Justin Wilson
>> >>> j...@mtin.net
>> >>>
>> >>> ---
>> >>> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
>> >>> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
>> >>>
>> >>> http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
>> >>> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
>> >>>
>> >>> On May 2, 2016, at 5:52 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>> >
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Little as $500???
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT ENG telescopic mast

[Jason Wilson]

http://alliedbroadcastgroup.com/AWSCategories/p/48/Uplink-Satellite-ENG-Vehicles

http://www.broadcaststore.com/store/prod_search_results.cfm?category_search=519


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On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> That is what I need... you looking to sell?
>
> *From:* Keefe John <keefe...@ethoplex.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, May 02, 2016 10:21 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT ENG telescopic mast
>
> We have something like that.
>
> See attached.
>
> On 5/2/2016 9:43 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Looking for a junkyard full of electronic news gathering gear.�
> Pneumatic telescope mast is the #1 thing on my list.� Then I need some
> kind of PTZ mount for the top that is stout enough to hole a dish
> antenna.�
> �
> Anybody know anyone in the news department of a TV station?
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Wiring batteries with F terminals in parallel+series

[Jason Wilson]

I hit send too quick.  This is what APC does.  Here is the Power Pole
Connector that they use.  Pretty much a standard.
https://powerwerx.com/anderson-sb-connectors-sb50-50amp



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On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Jason Wilson <ja...@remotelylocated.com>
wrote:

> On May 10, 2016 9:36 AM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I have 8 batteries that I want 24v to come off of.  Any suggestions or
>> parts to get two leads on the F terminals?
>>
>> http://i.imgur.com/r3X21cw.jpg
>>
>> My only idea right now is to solder the wires together near the terminals
>> and then tape/wrap it.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Wiring batteries with F terminals in parallel+series

[Jason Wilson]

If the image was stripped here is the link ​
 IMG_20160510_094036733_HDR.jpg
<https://drive.google.com/a/remotelylocated.com/file/d/0B_HDTyNbjf7oc2l2VVY5cXZaQW83U0lIVFFqb2lwMm5Gb0Fn/view?usp=drive_web>
​


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530-651-1736
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On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 9:45 AM, Jason Wilson <ja...@remotelylocated.com>
wrote:

> I hit send too quick.  This is what APC does.  Here is the Power Pole
> Connector that they use.  Pretty much a standard.
> https://powerwerx.com/anderson-sb-connectors-sb50-50amp
>
>
>
> Jason Wilson
> Remotely Located
> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
> 530-651-1736
> 530-748-9608 Cell
> www.remotelylocated.com
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Jason Wilson <ja...@remotelylocated.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On May 10, 2016 9:36 AM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have 8 batteries that I want 24v to come off of.  Any suggestions or
>>> parts to get two leads on the F terminals?
>>>
>>> http://i.imgur.com/r3X21cw.jpg
>>>
>>> My only idea right now is to solder the wires together near the
>>> terminals and then tape/wrap it.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Merchant services

[Jason Wilson]

Scott, I am an IPPay client,  email privately your decision to move.

Jason


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On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
wrote:

> Authorize.net?
>
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Scott Vander Dussen
> <sc...@velociter.net> wrote:
> > Without all the nasty details, I'm completely done doing business with
> IPPay. Any recommendations for alternatives?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > 'S
> >
> > Sent mobile!
>

Re: [AFMUG] abuse reports on customer IPs

[Jason Wilson]

My opinion on it, I am not a lawyer and I have not played one on TV, I am
not the internet police. Once the warrant is served then I will worry about
it. At which point I will turn over anything addressed in the warrant.

Jason.
On Apr 27, 2016 7:09 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
wrote:

> We have a particular customer, We have been getting tons of abuse reports
> on their static IP, I assume we will never be able to wash this sullied IP
> clean. Theyre not really doing any harm to our network, or impacting others
> on the network, they are in full breach of our TOS, thats for sure.
> suprisingly, its primarily spam and botnet activity, but no DMCA.
>
> Is there any liability on us as an ISP to not address this affirmatively
> with the customer. Im going to contact them, may offer a leased fortigate
> UTM option. But if there isnt a resolution, other than their static IP
> residing on every blacklist can we get nailed?
>
> Its a good customer, pays their bill on time, worked with us through a
> service issue without the usual "gimme discounts and free shit or im going
> elsewhere" I dont want to HAVE to disconnect them if im not required to and
> theyre not impacting others if they cant or wont resolve the issues
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Tower Insurance?

[Jason Wilson]

The Hartford.


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On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Christopher Gray <cg...@graytechsoftware.com
> wrote:

> Any good suggestions for basic tower insurance (liability)? My local
> provider does not have a lot of options for underwriters in that category.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Amplifi

[Jason Wilson]

Let's just ask if unifi will support it for a managed solution.


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On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> I wonder if it'll work as well as AirControl.  Or mfi.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On May 9, 2016 7:44 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>
>> Such as? I mean, all we care about it for is the ability to take it
>> during the install,  drop in off around a medium to large sized home,  and
>> to simply have it work with little to no configuration. And then,  remote
>> management...  Needs a controller that is,  my little birds say,  rumored
>> to be worked on.
>> On May 9, 2016 6:38 PM, "Gino Villarini" <ginovi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> eero reviews are not that great tho.. lots of missing features?
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's almost as preposterous as this real title:
>>>>
>>>> His Royal Highness ,The Prince , Charles, Philip , Arthur , George
>>>> ,Prince of Wales ,Earl of Chester , Duke of Cornwall , Duke of Rothesay
>>>> ,Earl of Carrick , Baron of Renfrew ,Lord of the Isles ,Prince and Great
>>>> Steward of Scotland ,Royal Knight Companion of the most noble order of the
>>>> Garter , Royal Knight Companion of the most Ancient and most noble order of
>>>> the Thistle ,Knight Grand Cross of the most honourable order of the Bath
>>>> ,Member of the order of Merit ,Knight of the order of Australia , Companion
>>>> of the Queens service order, Member of Her Majastys Most Honourable Privy
>>>> Councillors , Aide de Camp to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth R .
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bald yes. Rotund? Not quite. Eunuch... no.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am fond of Daenerys Targaryen, the First of Her Name, Queen of
>>>>> Meereen, Queen of the Andals and the Rhoynar and the First Men, Lord
>>>>> of the Seven Kingdoms, Protector of the Realm, Khaleesi of the Great
>>>>> Grass Sea, called Daenerys Stormborn, the Unburnt, Mother of Dragons
>>>>> though.
>>>>>
>>>>> PS - Titles have really slimmed down over the years, haven't they? Now
>>>>> we just have 3 or 4 letter ones most of the time!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 5:48 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > so what you're saying is you're a bald, rotund eunuch?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 8:58 AM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> My "little birds" seem to say it is a couple of months out, but now
>>>>> >> they're fat on candied plums and won't say any more.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Keefe John <keefe...@ethoplex.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >> > when will it ship?
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > On 5/9/2016 10:25 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> eero works differently. We are talking to them right now about
>>>>> some
>>>>> >> >> things.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 10:20 AM, Daniel White <afmu...@gmail.com
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> >> wrote:
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> >>> eero got some amazing press.
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> >>> Daniel White
>>>>> >> >>> Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales
>>>>> >> >>> ConVergence Technologies
>>>>> >> >>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
>>>>> >> >>> dwh...@converge-tech.com
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> >>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> >> >>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth
>>>>> Mattinen
>>>>> >> >>>> Sent: Monday, May 9, 2016 8:55 AM
>>>>> >> >>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>> >> >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Amplifi
>>>>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >> >>>> On 5/9/16 6:24 AM, Keefe John wrote:
>>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>>> >> >>>>> I wish they would finish and stabilize current products before
>>>>> >> >>>>> introducing new ones.
>>>>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >> >>>> That doesn't benefit stockholders.
>>>>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >> >>>> ~Seth
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> >>> ---
>>>>> >> >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus
>>>>> software.
>>>>> >> >>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT - alternative to VZ voicemail

[Jason Wilson]

This is what I use.  Carrier independent switch providers and your
voicemail stays with you.

https://www.youmail.com/



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On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> Yours may stop any day.
>
>
> http://www.verizonwireless.com/support/discontinue-visual-voice-mail-july-2016/
>
> They are incompetent at ‘splainin’ stuff, they keep focusing on the $2.99
> thing.  So the price will change?  Or there’s a new equivalent at a
> different price, or free?  I was told they use outsourced vendors for their
> VM, and their vendor will no longer support my device.  That implies it
> will still support newer devices.  But then why do they say the $2.99
> service is being discontinued?  What does the $2.99 have to do with my
> device not being supported, if other devices are still supported.  Are they
> saying only customers with older devices were being charged for Visual
> Voicemail?  Do the new devices get the free “Basic Visual Voicemail”?
>
> http://www.verizonwireless.com/support/voice-mail-comparison/
>
> H, even if that still exists, it only supports 20 messages max 3
> minutes duration.
>
>
> *From:* Brandon Yuchasz <li...@gogebicrange.net>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 14, 2016 5:24 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - alternative to VZ voicemail
>
>
> I have the same phone as well and use the visual voicemail on VZ as well.
> Mines still ticking along just fine. No *86 for me so far just read the
> texts and if the transcription is to bad I listen to the playback. I am
> thinking that perhaps your account is just screwed up and you got a
> clueless CS person.
>
>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
> GogebicRange.net
>
> www.gogebicrange.net
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 14, 2016 5:14 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - alternative to VZ voicemail
>
>
>
> I have the same phone (Droid RAZR Maxx HD). Darn nice phone. All of our
> other phones are some kind of VOIP thing, which have decent voicemail
> features. My home phone is Google Voice. That's nice because in addition to
> the voice mail, it also sends an email and text with a transcript of the
> voice message. The transcript usually has some kind of transcription error,
> but it also usually gets the point across.
>
>
>
> bp
>
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
>
> On 7/14/2016 2:59 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> Not sure what you mean by requires a smartphone.
>
>
>
> Hey, my phone isn’t THAT old.  I got it about 3 years ago.  I realize
> that’s an eternity in smartphone years, but it’s not like I’m carrying one
> of these:
>
>
>
> [image: marty_cooper_dynatac_phone]
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Jason McKemie <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 14, 2016 4:36 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - alternative to VZ voicemail
>
>
>
> I use Google Voice for my voicemail, but it requires a smartphone AFAIK.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
> I have a Motorola RAZR Maxx HD phone and depend heavily on Verizon's
> "Visual Voicemail" (although I'd sure like to increase the 40 message
> limit).
>
> VZ was sending me these confusing text messages about $2.99 Visual
> Voicemail going away and the replacement Visual Voicemail would be the same
> but free or something, I couldn't decipher what they were trying to tell me.
>
> Well, today my voicemail reverted to standard VM where you have to dial
> *86 and step through the messages one at a time using the voice prompts.
> That just won't work for me.  After about 10 minutes on hold with VZ
> customer support, they discovered the alerts should have said "our
> outsourced voicemail vendor will stop supporting your device".  So one
> option would be to buy a new phone.
>
> Anybody have another suggestion?  Is there a third party app in the Google
> Play store that would work with VZ voicemail?  The VZ support rep implied
> that might be the case but VZ wouldn't support it.
>
> Or is there some kind of spiffy third party voicemail service that I could
> set up my phone to forward to when busy or unavailable (a lot of my VZ
> calls seem to go straight to VM without the phone ever ringing)?  With an
> Android app, and maybe lots of cool features and storage for more than 40
> messages?
>
> Or am I stuck buying a new phone just to get a working voicemail app?
>
> (Obviously the phone is more than 2 years old, but I won't sign a 2 year
> contract for a phone anymore, if they even do that.  I would end up buying
> the new phone outright, so not talking chump change.)
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Inverter / Charger UPS

[Jason Wilson]

I know a few guys using these.
https://www.tripplite.com/750w-powerverter-aps-12vdc-120v-inverter-charger-auto-transfer-switching-2-outlets~APS750/
 They swear by them.


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On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> That's only DC thoughhe was looking at AC output such as with a UPS or
> Inverter/Charger.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "can...@believewireless.net" <p...@believewireless.net>
> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Sent: 7/22/2016 12:30:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Inverter / Charger UPS
>
>
> Take a look at the Alpha Cordex PSU 2:
> http://www.alpha.com/index.php/products-mobile/cable-tv-broadband-products/item/2448vdc-cordex-psu-2
>
> If you need more power, look into a full rectifier system.
>
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I keep being tempted by AIMS power.
>> What stops me is there's no provision for remote monitoring.  The "remote
>> port" is for a control panel at max 10m from the unit.
>>
>> If it had status relays that would be something.  Even nicer would be a
>> network module with Web/SNMP access like an APC.  I suppose if you add
>> something to monitor battery voltage and the AC power status then you could
>> make do.
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "SmarterBroadband" <li...@smarterbroadband.com>
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: 7/22/2016 12:18:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Inverter / Charger UPS
>>
>>
>> For example
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.theinverterstore.com/2000-watt-pure-sine-inverter-charger-48-volt.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *SmarterBroadband
>> *Sent:* Friday, July 22, 2016 9:10 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Inverter / Charger UPS
>>
>>
>>
>> We have been using 48v APC UPS’s in our cabinets, removing the internal
>> batteries and adding 4 large Deeps Cycles batteries.
>>
>>
>>
>> Seems to be a waste of cabinet space to continue doing this.
>>
>>
>>
>> Has anyone used Inverter Charges to replace a UPS?
>>
>>
>>
>> I assume we should only look at Pure Sine Wave?  Most of these seem to be
>> at 12 volts.
>>
>>
>>
>> Like to hear what has worked for others.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Who makes a dual-band MIMO sector antenna?

[Jason Wilson]

2/5ghz 2x2
http://www.itelite.net/en/Katalog/Multi-Band-Antennas//SEC-XL2450DP.html

2/5ghz 3x3
http://www.itelite.net/en/Katalog/Multi-Band-Antennas//176-SEC2450-3x3.html

3/5ghz 2x2
http://www.itelite.net/en/Katalog/Multi-Band-Antennas//SEC3550DP.html

Looks like they will all do the whole band


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On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 9:17 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
wrote:

> I should have looked at the frequency plot.  It’s not bad.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Rory Conaway
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 28, 2016 9:16 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who makes a dual-band MIMO sector antenna?
>
>
>
> They only go down to 5.4GHz.  I might be using 2 antennas.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 28, 2016 8:29 PM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who makes a dual-band MIMO sector antenna?
>
>
>
> KP
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:18 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
> wrote:
>
> I thought Arc had them but I was mistaken.
>
>
>
> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>
> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>
> *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>*
>
> *r...@triadwireless.net <r...@triadwireless.net>*
>
> *www.triadwireless.net <http://www.triadwireless.net/>*
>
>
>
> “The winner ain’t the one with the fastest car, it’s the one who refuses
> to lose.” – Dale Earnhardt
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Practical/low-cost 18AWG copper outdoor

[Jason Wilson]

I also would go the conduit route BUT if you were to go with your
original plan I would use landscape wire
http://www.lowes.com/pd/100-ft-16-Gauge-2-Conductor-Landscape-Lighting-Cable/21006



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On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 6:29 PM, Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com> wrote:

> I would recommend conduit at least. We have trouble with exposed cat5
> getting chewed on by critters when we lay it through the woods. It'd be a
> bit of labor to pull it through but much more protection. You could do flat
> drop fiber and save enough cost over armored to pay for the conduit.
>
> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 9:17 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It does need to stay "low voltage" because there is no
>> practical/economical way to get an electrical permit to run 600-700 meters
>> of code-compliant 240VAC through this particular section of forest.
>>
>> Interestingly, looking at $/ft prices for cable I have found that
>> 3-conductor 14 gauge UF-NMC (2 + bare copper ground) is less costly per
>> foot than 18 gauge SJOOW. That sort of helps on the voltage drop problem.
>> It's intended for direct burial but in this case would go through a forest
>> taped to an armored fiber cable. In a few years falling leaves and such
>> will cover it.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I would also run 240V AC out there, not DC. Unless you are needing to
>>> stay "low voltage" for permit/licensing reasons.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 7:59 PM, Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would use 14-2 UF cable, direct buried next to the fiber, or pulled
>>>> into conduit with the fiber if you are doing conduit. That's going to be
>>>> much cheaper than SOOW type rubber jacket cable, or pretty much any other
>>>> options. 1000ft spool costs us about $250, and there are direct bury splice
>>>> kits for it to make a waterproof buried splice.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 7:25 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Due to terrain I'm helping somebody design a network link where a PTP
>>>>> radio will go on the side of a tree on the opposite side of a mountain 
>>>>> from
>>>>> where AC power, a router and other network equipment is located.
>>>>>
>>>>> We're looking at 600 to 700 meters of singlemode fiber and a small
>>>>> NEMA4X junction box with the radio on the far side of the hill, containing
>>>>> a SC-SC patch cable bulkhead and a meanwell DC-DC converter.
>>>>>
>>>>> It looks like based on the wattage of the radio and voltage drop
>>>>> calculations for 18-2 cable that we can get away with a 56VDC power supply
>>>>> at the power source, dropping to not lower than 35VDC at the receiving 
>>>>> end,
>>>>> which will be fed into a DC-DC converter to bring the output back up to
>>>>> 52.5VDC for the radio.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you had to run 600-700m of 18AWG cable outdoors through a forest,
>>>>> how would you do it? SJOOW type cable may not hold up over a long enough
>>>>> time. Ideally something that is more armored than SJOOW (it can be much
>>>>> less flexible if needed). Cost is somewhat of a factor.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Credit card irregularities.

[Jason Wilson]

Sole Proprietor? LLC or Corp?  If you are a structured org (llc,Corp) and
you have an invoice for said items then you should be ok.

*Credit card kiting* refers to the use of one or more credit cards
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_card> to obtain cash and purchasing
power they do not have, or pay credit card
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_card> balances with the proceeds of
other cards. Unlike check kiting
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Check_kiting>, which is illegal under nearly
all circumstances, laws against credit card kiting are not completely
prohibitive of the practice, thereby allowing it to be done to some degree.
It is up to the banks to detect the practice and when necessary, stop it.

In order for prosecution to occur in a credit card kiting scheme, a bank
must prove intent to deceive.[1]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_card_kiting#cite_note-1> Eq seq
reference infers paying credit card minimum balances with credit card
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_card> proceeds is de facto
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_facto> evidence of deceit.

It all will depend on your CC Processor.


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On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Cameron Crum <cc...@wispmon.com> wrote:

> I didn't think about the miles thing. I just didn't think they would care
> as they are still getting paid and you'll be out about 3% of the charge.
> The biggest charge I've run through my own cars was about $300. I know
> square used to hold funds over $1000 for some period...like 7 days or so?
> Maybe that is too long, but I seem to remember something like that.
>
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
> > wrote:
>
>> From what came up a while ago you can do that no problem after contacting
>> the merchant but IPPay doesn't allow those shenanigans.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I am thinking of doing this for about $10K and really don’t want to get
>>> money or systems locked up.
>>> I can also run it through my ecommerce site and I have a quick books
>>> merchant account too.
>>>
>>> *From:* Cameron Crum <cc...@wispmon.com>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 06, 2016 11:50 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Credit card irregularities.
>>>
>>> I've run my own card on my own account before a couple of times for
>>> testing and for paying myself for something as well. I'm not sure they
>>> really care, but I haven't read the AUP in like 4 years.
>>>
>>> Cameron
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This has been covered here before.  I am considering buying something
>>>> from my own company.  Have Jenny run my personal card on her company square
>>>> reader.
>>>>
>>>> Not sure if that violates any kind of AUP.  Hate to get her merchant
>>>> account shut down.  It is a woman owned business with her owning more than
>>>> half.  I don’t technically work there.  I am not on the payroll.
>>>>
>>>> How risky is this?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] managed router craziness

[Jason Wilson]

Look at router limits. They have a few options to do exactly what you are
looking for.
J

On Jan 26, 2017 3:10 PM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:

> Customer called wanting to be able to call us each day and have us disable
> Internet to each kid’s computer until they did their homework, then call as
> each one finished their homework and have us turn it back on.
>
>
>
> Seriously?
>
>
>
> What happened to sticking your head in the room and yelling “get off the
> damn Internet and do your homework”?  Are parents too lazy now to get up
> off the sofa and check on the kids?  When I was a kid, a parent could yell
> from 50 paces and make you soil your underwear.
>

[AFMUG] Readynet Routers

[Jason Wilson]

It looks like ReadyNet routers are pretty much the same device as the
R200/201.  Is there anyway to flash them with the cambium software and have
them connect to CNmastreo?

J

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Re: [AFMUG] Readynet Routers

[Jason Wilson]

Not that I am aware of...  I am just tossing around a managed platform and
I have a few of the ready net routers and just weighing the options.  I am
leaning towards Cambium since I am moving most of my network that
direction.  One platform would be nice.

J


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On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 6:13 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> didnt ready net go under?
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 7:38 PM, Jason Wilson <ja...@remotelylocated.com>
> wrote:
>
>> It looks like ReadyNet routers are pretty much the same device as the
>> R200/201.  Is there anyway to flash them with the cambium software and have
>> them connect to CNmastreo?
>>
>> J
>>
>> Jason Wilson
>> Remotely Located
>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>> 530-651-1736 <(530)%20651-1736>
>> 530-748-9608 <(530)%20748-9608> Cell
>> www.remotelylocated.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Readynet Routers

[Jason Wilson]

Now if I can manage readynet routers from cnMaestro then that would be the
cat's meow.


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On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 8:00 PM, Jason Wilson <ja...@remotelylocated.com>
wrote:

> Not that I am aware of...  I am just tossing around a managed platform and
> I have a few of the ready net routers and just weighing the options.  I am
> leaning towards Cambium since I am moving most of my network that
> direction.  One platform would be nice.
>
> J
>
>
> Jason Wilson
> Remotely Located
> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
> 530-651-1736 <(530)%20651-1736>
> 530-748-9608 <(530)%20748-9608> Cell
> www.remotelylocated.com
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 6:13 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> didnt ready net go under?
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 7:38 PM, Jason Wilson <ja...@remotelylocated.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It looks like ReadyNet routers are pretty much the same device as the
>>> R200/201.  Is there anyway to flash them with the cambium software and have
>>> them connect to CNmastreo?
>>>
>>> J
>>>
>>> Jason Wilson
>>> Remotely Located
>>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>>> 530-651-1736 <(530)%20651-1736>
>>> 530-748-9608 <(530)%20748-9608> Cell
>>> www.remotelylocated.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Pissing and Moaning

[Jason Wilson]

A little.  How did water get into those connectors?


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On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 6:09 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Based on the current thread subject, I'll just assume you pissed and
> moaned from up there.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Jason Wilson" <ja...@remotelylocated.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 2/11/2017 8:53:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Pissing and Moaning
>
> Quick little climb this morning.
>
> 105'
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
>
>
> Jason Wilson
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>
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Ha...
>>
>> On Feb 11, 2017 4:19 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have the fastest delete key in the West.
>>
>> *From:* Joshua Stump
>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 11, 2017 3:55 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Pissing and Moaning
>>
>> Amen. I've been marking everything as read since November.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 11, 2017, at 9:14 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>
>> It's probably time to cut back on the off topic pissing and moaning on
>> this list. I wouldn't be surprised if a third of the people have left the
>> list because the pissing and moaning has been more than a third of the
>> messages the last three months.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Oroville dam

[Jason Wilson]

100,000cfs is correct.  That spillway will support 250,000cfs, but the
Feather River channel will only support about 216,000cfs.  It has been 10
years since the Channel has been stressed to this point, last time there
were levee breaches.  Their hope is to drawdown the reservoir 50 feet below
the rim to do a couple things, one is to take pressure off of the presumed
damaged emergency spillway.  The other is to make room for precip that is
coming into california towards the end of the week.  Of course they cannot
do any repairs to the facility until after the rainy season is over, and
the snowmelt had finished.



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On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 8:31 AM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I heard a reporter saying that the water going over that spillway was
> doing 100,000 cubic feet per second. I have a really hard time visualizing
> that amount of water. Could also have been a mis-quote by the reporter...
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 2/13/2017 8:11 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> So the �good news� is they�re going to drop bags of rocks from
> helicopters?
>
> �
>
> I hope my good news never involves helicopters dropping rocks.
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Oroville dam

[Jason Wilson]

There are no Dams downstream.  The Feather empties to the Sacramento
River.  There are a number a weirs on the Sacramento that have been opened
to the Bypass (land designated and designed to flood, Farm land, Rice
Paddies) to absorb additional flow that we have experienced in the last
month or so.  IF and a big IF the spillway were to fail as the expected
last night I do not think the Sacramento River system would be able to
absorb the flow and would be catastrophic downstream in the Sacramento
Valley.



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On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 11:28 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> are they opening dams downstream?
>
> they really could truck in a bunch of 4 foot tile to siphon over the banks
> and direct the flow past the work areas, close the dam gates and initiate
> the repairs. I dont think I would want to be working the boats placing the
> tile topside though
>
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 1:20 PM, Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Putting plates into a waterflow of that volume will pretty much be
>> certain to rip out of the concrete or create erosion of the concrete around
>> the attachment points.   Cavitation is a bitch...   Right now they can't
>> stop the flow.   Also pretty much most of the spillway below the hole is
>> gone, so there isn't a lot to attach it to.   The turbines are shut down
>> right now because the erosion has created a dam in the stream that has
>> raised the water levels upstream to the point they cannot operate the
>> turbines.   The turbines were maxed out at 15K cfs up to that point.
>>  Yeah, I have been pretty much obsessing over this... My inlaws were stuck
>> going nowhere in Yuba city last night for 4 hours in gridlock ( at one
>> point not moving for 2 hours. ) before deciding it was safer at the house
>> on the second floor...
>>
>>
>>
>> On 02/13/2017 10:36 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>>> Easy to armchair quarterback but I would think they could bolt 1 inch
>>> plates over the hole in the main spillway, put some I beam piles under
>>> the plates and open it back up.  At least until they take some inches
>>> off the reservoir.  I wonder if there is a way they can set the angle on
>>> the turbines to waste more water there too.
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews
>>> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 11:28 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Oroville dam
>>>
>>> As of this morning they are saying the regular spillway is supporting
>>> the 100K cfs without further damage.If that it true, then there is
>>> the ability to deal with what's happening over the next couple of weeks,
>>> which looks like 4-5 sequential storms.   We got a 4-5 day break in
>>> weather this week but if it goes back to last months pattern we are in
>>> serious trouble throughout the west.  That spillway needs to do 100K cfs
>>> for weeks to keep pressure off the hillside below the emergency
>>> spillway.   Californa and the Feds were sued over in 2005 to put
>>> concrete down on that hillside by the Sierra Club.   The worse case
>>> situation is that the lake goes over the emergency spillway, it erodes
>>> below, the spillway fails and the hill below what was the spillway just
>>> keeps going away.   Moving water, and it would be a lot, would grand
>>> canyon the hill...  It would be enough water to destroy most of the
>>> feather river and Sacramento levee system below the dam..   That would
>>> be really really bad...   ( Inlaws in Yuba city )...
>>>
>>> On 02/13/2017 08:47 AM, Jason Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>> 100,000cfs is correct.  That spillway will support 250,000cfs, but the
>>>> Feather River channel will only support about 216,000cfs.  It has been
>>>> 10 years since the Channel has been stressed to this point, last time
>>>> there were levee breaches.  Their hope is to drawdown the reservoir 50
>>>> feet below the rim to do a couple things, one is to take pressure off of
>>>> the presumed damaged emergency spillway.  The other is to make room for
>>>> precip that is coming into california towards the end of the week.  Of
>>>> course they cannot do any repairs to the facility until after the rainy
>>>> season is over, and the snowmelt had finished.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jason Wilson
>>>> Remotely Located
>>&g

Re: [AFMUG] homemade computer pr0n

[Jason Wilson]

I have a client that works for Zilog (Z80).  She has worked for them off
and on for about 35 years.  They have come along way.


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On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
wrote:

> My first personal computer was a Sinclair ZX-81 aka  Timex Sinclair 1000
> mine was built from a DYI Kit...
>
> I was chuckling to myself looking at the pictures,,, essentially this
> person re-made the unit..
> minus the ROM (Basic Interpreter ) !
>
> Ahh the good old days..
>
> one of my first personal initiated programing project was to write a Z80
> machine code decoder all done in Basic..
> Spent a great deal to time in understanding how the very large instruction
> set was created !
>
> Good memories !
>
> :)
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 8:12:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] homemade computer pr0n
>
> > Where was this 20 years ago when I needed it?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Josh Reynolds
> > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 5:55 PM
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Subject: [AFMUG] homemade computer pr0n
> >
> > I figured Chuck and Forrest would like this.
> >
> > http://imgur.com/gallery/hfG6e
>

Re: [AFMUG] Powering ePMP

[Jason Wilson]

I have a ePMP1000 Connectorized 2.4ghz in the lab right now running off of
a nextonix @ 24v.  I did have an issue with a 1000 running off of a RB750UP
on a long cable run.  Not enough umph to power it.  I am currently running
it on the stock power supply but the Netonix will soon be replacing the
750up and stock PS at the site.


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On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 8:42 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> This is an ePMP 1000 connectorized.  2.4G
>
> *From:* George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 30, 2016 9:41 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Powering ePMP
>
> The Force180 and 200's will take 15-30VDC (IIRC) using either polarity on
> the 4/5 and 7/8 pairs. GigE if you want.
>
> The GPS units are 802.3af compliant and also 29.5 or 48 passive +
> Sync-over-Power. So the same applies, either polarity. Also GigE. They want
> no less than 20vDC. And I believe no more than 58 or 60vDC. But as others
> have pointed out in the past, you should run them at 29.5 or 48-56 if you
> can because of the cold weather lockup issues when they're getting <24vDC
> at the radio.
>
> The old ePMP integrated units take only standard Canopy power, and no
> GigE. We have made polarity swap dongles to convert customers from UBNT (if
> they're not home), but now that those are EOL and the new Force stuff
> doesn't care about polarity, we just swap radios.
>
> On 8/30/2016 10:18 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Not finding a true manual for the Netonix either.  There are many options
> that I am not sure about.
>
> *From:* Jordan Gregory <jgreg...@hive-wireless.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 30, 2016 9:15 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Powering ePMP
>
>
> GPS synced or not?
>
> My ePMP 1000 w/ GPS are being powered by a netonix. SMs don't work though.
>
> On Aug 30, 2016 10:11 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> When powering an ePMP, I notice that the power supply from Cambium shows
>> 7&8 positive, 4&5 return.
>> Is it not possible to power it directly from a Netonix WS-12-DC?
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] customer support via text message

[Jason Wilson]

I have had clients text me for a few years.  I never advertise it, but I do
respond.  I use Ringcentral for my hosted PBX and can text back through
their apps.


Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736
530-748-9608 Cell
www.remotelylocated.com

On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 8:56 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Im curious if this is a bigger problem in the US than elsewhere, we are a
> sloth nation of gluttons who are too lazy to actually use their vocal cords
> to call
>
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Those same people have land lines, it's clearly a crazy world over there.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Cameron Crum <cc...@wispmon.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Why would a customer think it is ok to text a company's voice number? Do
>>> you send sms out from this number? I would never expect that I could text a
>>> support or billing phone number unless I had previously received a message
>>> from it. Why not get a dedicated sms number for such activities and
>>> advertise it as such. Twillio is pretty cost effective and you can use
>>> their API to do all kinds of cool stuff. If our customers want to
>>> communicate through text in our software we require it. You can set up
>>> auto-reply's or have the number forwarded to something else. You can even
>>> handle the call forwarding if someone hits the "call back" from their phone
>>> so it rings your main number. I think most people set up an auto reply that
>>> tells them the SMS is really only for notification purposes, not for
>>> support issues, mostly due to the reasons outlined previously. It is pretty
>>> difficult to support people via sms especially if they are using a phone
>>> not registered in the account.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 10:16 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> haha, the ones who pay with prepaid cards they always have to put money
>>>> on, i love them
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm thinking you'll find a correlation between those folks and the
>>>>> ones who don't pay their bills.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Original Message --
>>>>> From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>> Sent: 9/8/2016 11:13:23 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] customer support via text message
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>> it looks to me like people change their phone numbers every few months.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:12 AM
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] customer support via text message
>>>>>
>>>>> How the hell do you not have their numbers tied to their accounts???
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Earlier this year we enabled SMS messaging on our main business phone
>>>>>> number.  We never announced anything, but people do send us texts, which
>>>>>> makes me wonder how many were dropping off the end of the earth 
>>>>>> previously.
>>>>>> We don't actually get a text message, it gets turned into an email to our
>>>>>> support address.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Problem is, customers often don't include their name, all we have is
>>>>>> their cellphone number.  Their expectation seems to be that we will text
>>>>>> back and forth with them.  In reality we have to call them.  But we can't
>>>>>> investigate the problem first unless we can correlate the cellphone 
>>>>>> number
>>>>>> to a customer account, and then when we call them, lots of people don't
>>>>>> actually answer their phones, they do everything by text message.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How are people handling this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash

[Jason Wilson]

Visp

On Sep 15, 2016 10:54 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:

> Sonar. +1
>
> On Sep 16, 2016 12:50 AM, "TJ Trout"  wrote:
>
>> Could I trouble you all for a quick survey / recommendation on billing
>> systems?
>>
>> I've been looking at;
>>
>> Power code ( seems like too many red flags with this company)
>>
>> Platypus ( good price, but I don't want to become a dev just to bill my
>> customers)
>>
>> Visp seems like a decent option?
>>
>> Wisp Mon? Don't know much about them, prices seem high, haven't heard
>> anything bad so that's a good sign?
>>
>> Swift fox? ( Seems like unpopular option maybe because they're new?)
>>
>> Sonar? Maybe that's the one?
>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber advertising / mailers?

[Jason Wilson]

You can give them your current client list and they will exclude them from
the mailings.


Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736
530-748-9608 Cell
www.remotelylocated.com

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 4:51 AM, Craig Schmaderer <cr...@skywaveconnect.com>
wrote:

> Can they exclude current customers?   We build a mailing list by hand when
> we deploy a new gpon cabinet and then exclude current customers so they
> don't receive the new promos.
>
> Craig Schmaderer
> Cell 402-380-1245
> Skywave Wireless, Inc.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 10:19 PM -0500, "Jason Wilson" <
> ja...@remotelylocated.com> wrote:
>
> I have been using market broadband proximity mailing. Provide them with
> your coverage area and they send cards to your folks in your coverage area
> only. Send them the clients you install and they send to the area around
> your install.
>
> I can send contact information off list.
>
> On Sep 28, 2016 7:47 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net> wrote:
>
>> Making some right now, remind me again in a week and I should have proof.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 8:39 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Fiber advertising / mailers?
>>
>> Does anyone have any fiber advertising mailers or pamphlets they are
>> willing to share?
>>
>> Jon Langeler
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber advertising / mailers?

[Jason Wilson]

I have been using market broadband proximity mailing. Provide them with
your coverage area and they send cards to your folks in your coverage area
only. Send them the clients you install and they send to the area around
your install.

I can send contact information off list.

On Sep 28, 2016 7:47 PM, "Sterling Jacobson"  wrote:

> Making some right now, remind me again in a week and I should have proof.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 8:39 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] Fiber advertising / mailers?
>
> Does anyone have any fiber advertising mailers or pamphlets they are
> willing to share?
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] BTEST server to use for a few hours

[Jason Wilson]

Subject: Public-Mikrotik-Bandwidth-Test-Server
*EDIT: Feb 24 2016 --- Now supports up to 3.5 Gig speedtest - read all the
posts *

I have setup a public accessible Bandwidth test server. It is available for
temporary testing through the Internet.

To use this server to test your Mikrotik devices through the Internet you
agree not to abuse it.

Here are the details for my server:
- x86 ROS hosted on VMware ESXi server (with 10-gig connection to the
Internet)
- Burstable to 250 Meg up/down
- Sustained traffic is limited to 100 Meg up/down (after about 30 to 60
seconds)
- Your maximum connection time for testing is not to exceed 10 minutes.
- IP Address: 207.32.195.2
- btest user authentication needed: User: btest Password: btest
- You may NOT winbox to this machine - you may bandwidth test to it.

Please post your positive and/or negative results or thoughts.

If this server is abused, I will discontinue it.
I hope this helps Mikrotik network admins everywhere.

North Idaho Tom Jones


Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736
530-748-9608 Cell
www.remotelylocated.com

On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net>
wrote:

> I believe mine should do over 500Mbps, give it a try: 50.114.231.72
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall
> *Sent:* Monday, October 3, 2016 11:27 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] BTEST server to use for a few hours
>
>
>
> Any public BTEST server’s out there?  Need to do a few 500Mb tests for 30
> seconds each over the next 24 hours
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>
> 772-564-6800
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> www.floridabroadband.com
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt

[Jason Wilson]

When Said consultant is ready, email me off list.


Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736
530-748-9608 Cell
www.remotelylocated.com

On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Some consultant needs to specialize in this and help folks provision,
> configure, deploy, test etc.
> We all need this or will need this.
>
> *From:* Faisal Imtiaz
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 26, 2016 8:31 PM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Fwd: [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt
>
> An excellent detailed solution  (from one of the other forums).
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Tim Way" <t...@way.vg>
> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wirel...@wispa.org>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 25, 2016 9:01:51 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt
>
> Art,
> So I know of two solid methods that could solve your problem. Neither are
> super awesome and both would involve NAT.
>
> 1. IPv6 only to the client with NAT64 and DNS64 to handle IPv4 only
> connectivity
> 2. IPv4 CGN Shared Address Space, RFC 6598 100.64.0.0/10, and IPv6 Global
> Unicast running in Dual Stack
>
> Either one would work. I apologize in advance for the long post that
> follows.
>
> I've only done the configurations on Cisco routers with the radios just
> passing traffic at layer 2. I'd have to check the feature set of your
> routers routing wise but it shouldn't be hard. It also could be built in a
> lab with static routing largely. I think Mikrotik supports NAT64 but again
> for a lab environment any recent Cisco device could be used with IP
> Services licensing.
>
> Your address plan for your global unicast IPv6 space comes into play. This
> is how I would lab it up including moving routing to the tower with the CPE
> in bridge mode:
>
> Your fictional IPv6 prefix: :::/32
>
> Your NAT64 Prefix: ::cc00::/96
>
> Customer DHCPv6-PD Allocation Prefix: ::aa00::/40
> Your fictional customer #1: The Johnson Family, ::aa00:0100::/56
> Your fictional customer #2: The Billings' Family, ::aa00:0200::/56
>
> Fictional Tower 1
> ISP Mgmt VLAN of CPE: 11, ::bb00:0011::/64
> ISP Customer VLAN of CPE: 12, ::bb00:0012::/64
> ISP Router at the tower on VLAN 11: ::bb00:0011::1/64
> ISP Router at the tower on VLAN 12: ::bb00:0012::1/64
>
> The Johnson Family Setup:
> ISP CPE VLAN 11 IP: ::bb00:0011::f/64
> Customer's Netgear WAN Interface: ::bb00:0012::f/64
> Customer's Netgear LAN Interface: ::aa00:010a::1/64
> Customer's Netgear Guest WiFi: ::aa00:010b::1/64
>
> The Billings' Family Setup:
> ISP CPE VLAN 11 IP: ::bb00:0011::e/64
> Customer's Netgear WAN Interface: ::bb00:0012::e/64
> Customer's Netgear LAN Interface: ::aa00:020a::1/64
> Customer's Netgear Guest WiFi: ::aa00:020b::1/64
>
> 1. You'd bridge VLAN 12 through the CPE to customer's WAN interface as the
> native VLAN and put the IP on VLAN 11.
> 2. If you use static routing and manual address assignment to eliminate
> variables in the lab you'll want to add static routes on the tower router
> for the ::/56 prefixes that would be allocated to each customer. Normally
> these routes will be injected into the routing table at the DHCPv6 router
> and could be distributed from there.
> 3. The last piece of the puzzle will be adding in the NAT64 and DNS64
> devices. BIND can do DNS64 and you could use a Cisco router to do the
> NAT64. You'd want the "Customer's Netgear" to use the DNS64 server as it's
> upstream DNS server to ensure that it receives  records for sites that
> only have A records. This is the fragile component of the DNS64 and NAT64
> deployment because it requires the customers computer or router uses your
> resolver. You will want to ensure the router performing NAT64 is
> advertising the prefix it is using for NAT64 into your IGP or that your
> default routed traffic lands on that NAT64 to ensure it is routed correctly.
>
> This should get you a functional IPv6 only customer network that only
> returns  records for all DNS requests. It's a little late so I
> apologize for any mistakes in the addressing. Also I will think about doing
> this with routing at the CPE as well overnight and add that response. I'd
> be very intrigued to see this in a lab environment with the fictional
> customers all setup to see how NAT64 and DNS64 actually works in reality
>

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt

[Jason Wilson]

Is sonar the only CRM that supports IPV6?

I know currently Visp Does not.


Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736
530-748-9608 Cell
www.remotelylocated.com

On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Simon Westlake <simon@sonar.software>
wrote:

> What do you mean, 'even Sonar'? We aren't chopped liver!
>
> On 10/27/2016 2:12 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote:
>
> I would totally agree here. We have deployed IPv6 quite a bit for clients,
> our networks etc.  However, the major issue is the hosting companies, most
> big guys, google, amazon, etc all support IPv6, heck even Sonar does now!
> Hahah, but until the cost of IPv4 addresses is so high that no one; even
> the major guys can afford it, IPv6 deployment will keep stalling.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
>
> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
> <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> –
> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>
>
>
> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
>
> Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
>
> Office: 314-735-0270
>
> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Paul Stewart
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 27, 2016 2:00 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt
>
>
>
> Actually in my opinion what we need is better IPv6 adoption in general and
> this becomes a non-problem quickly :)
>
>
>
> I know .. good theory … and “we” are getting better though …. a lot of
> providers have gotten their heads out of the clouds in the past few years
> alone ….
>
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 27, 2016, at 2:26 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> What we all need, is a low cost solution to stop needing more V4 IPs.
>
>
>
> If it is CGN at the edge with a limited pool of V4, so be it.
>
>
>
> But I want a solid solution that can be trusted.
>
> And I want and expert to come drop it into my company.
>
>
>
> *From:* Paul Stewart
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:23 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt
>
>
>
> while I’m not a fan of NAT64, CGN etc (but understand in some situations
> the need for it), I completely agree that companies will be looking for
> consultants to help with this in some scenarios (both large and small
> companies alike) - this has been ongoing in some larger companies for many
> years already (IPv6 adoption) and often through resident engineer
> placements from vendors
>
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 27, 2016, at 11:59 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Some consultant needs to specialize in this and help folks provision,
> configure, deploy, test etc.
>
> We all need this or will need this.
>
>
>
> *From:* Faisal Imtiaz
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 26, 2016 8:31 PM
>
> *To:* af
>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Fwd: [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt
>
>
>
> An excellent detailed solution  (from one of the other forums).
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Tim Way" <t...@way.vg>
> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wirel...@wispa.org>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 25, 2016 9:01:51 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt
>
> Art,
>
> So I know of two solid methods that could solve your problem. Neither are
> super awesome and both would involve NAT.
>
>
>
> 1. IPv6 only to the client with NAT64 and DNS64 to handle IPv4 only
> connectivity
>
> 2. IPv4 CGN Shared Address Space, RFC 6598 100.64.0.0/10, and IPv6 Global
> Unicast running in Dual Stack
>
>
>
> Either one would work. I apologize in advance for the long post that
> follows.
>
>
>
> I've only done the configurations on Cisco routers with the radios just
> passing traffic at layer 2. I'd have to check the feature set of your
> routers routing wise but it shouldn't be hard. It also could be built in a
> lab with static routing largely. I think Mikrotik supports NAT64 but again
> for a lab environment any recent Cisco device could be used with IP
> Services licensing.
>
>
>
> Your address plan for your global unicast IPv6 space comes into play. This
> is how I would lab it up including moving routing to the tower with the CPE
> in bridge mode:
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt

[Jason Wilson]

Simon. Let's talk.

On Oct 27, 2016 12:50 PM, "Simon Westlake" <simon@sonar.software> wrote:

> I'm not sure, but I think we are probably in a minority, as we're
> onboarding a lot of customers right now who came to us explicitly looking
> for IPv6 support.
>
> On 10/27/2016 2:48 PM, Jason Wilson wrote:
>
> Is sonar the only CRM that supports IPV6?
>
> I know currently Visp Does not.
>
>
> Jason Wilson
> Remotely Located
> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
> 530-651-1736
> 530-748-9608 Cell
> www.remotelylocated.com
>
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Simon Westlake <simon@sonar.software>
> wrote:
>
>> What do you mean, 'even Sonar'? We aren't chopped liver!
>>
>> On 10/27/2016 2:12 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote:
>>
>> I would totally agree here. We have deployed IPv6 quite a bit for
>> clients, our networks etc.  However, the major issue is the hosting
>> companies, most big guys, google, amazon, etc all support IPv6, heck even
>> Sonar does now! Hahah, but until the cost of IPv4 addresses is so high that
>> no one; even the major guys can afford it, IPv6 deployment will keep
>> stalling.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
>>
>> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
>> <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> –
>> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>>
>>
>>
>> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
>>
>> Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
>>
>> Office: 314-735-0270
>>
>> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Paul Stewart
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 27, 2016 2:00 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt
>>
>>
>>
>> Actually in my opinion what we need is better IPv6 adoption in general
>> and this becomes a non-problem quickly :)
>>
>>
>>
>> I know .. good theory … and “we” are getting better though …. a lot of
>> providers have gotten their heads out of the clouds in the past few years
>> alone ….
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 27, 2016, at 2:26 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> What we all need, is a low cost solution to stop needing more V4 IPs.
>>
>>
>>
>> If it is CGN at the edge with a limited pool of V4, so be it.
>>
>>
>>
>> But I want a solid solution that can be trusted.
>>
>> And I want and expert to come drop it into my company.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Paul Stewart
>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:23 AM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt
>>
>>
>>
>> while I’m not a fan of NAT64, CGN etc (but understand in some situations
>> the need for it), I completely agree that companies will be looking for
>> consultants to help with this in some scenarios (both large and small
>> companies alike) - this has been ongoing in some larger companies for many
>> years already (IPv6 adoption) and often through resident engineer
>> placements from vendors
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 27, 2016, at 11:59 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Some consultant needs to specialize in this and help folks provision,
>> configure, deploy, test etc.
>>
>> We all need this or will need this.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Faisal Imtiaz
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 26, 2016 8:31 PM
>>
>> *To:* af
>>
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Fwd: [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt
>>
>>
>>
>> An excellent detailed solution  (from one of the other forums).
>>
>>
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 <305%20663%205518> x 232
>>
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *From: *"Tim Way" <t...@way.vg>
>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wirel...@wispa.org>
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 25, 2016 9:01:51 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt
>>
>> Art,
>>
>> So I know of two solid methods that could solve your problem. Neither are
>> super 

Re: [AFMUG] Ganja

[Jason Wilson]

But you cannot legally purchase until January.

On Nov 9, 2016 8:16 AM,  wrote:

> Now you can legally smoke out in CA without faking a medical condition.
> Congrats, the West Coast of the USA is now unified!  I wonder if this will
> have a negative impact on the quality of software.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Ganja

[Jason Wilson]

I know someone in Colorado who won 2 permits in the lottery. He has had to
buy multiple large safes to store the cash. He cannot get bank accounts.
The upside... Paid cash for a Tesla.

On Nov 9, 2016 8:41 AM, "Cameron Crum" <cc...@wispmon.com> wrote:

> It will be interesting to see how the feds start to handle this in these
> states. I would not want to be in that business right now.
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Jason Wilson <ja...@remotelylocated.com>
> wrote:
>
>> But you cannot legally purchase until January.
>>
>> On Nov 9, 2016 8:16 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Now you can legally smoke out in CA without faking a medical condition.
>>> Congrats, the West Coast of the USA is now unified!  I wonder if this will
>>> have a negative impact on the quality of software.
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: RB2011UiAS2HnDI - anyone have these in stock?

[Jason Wilson]

ISP SUPPLIES
http://www.ispsupplies.com/brands/Wireless-for-Home/MikroTik-RB2011UAS-2HnD-IN.html


Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736
530-748-9608 Cell
www.remotelylocated.com

On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> You missing an N maybe?
>
> https://www.roc-noc.com/mikrotik/routerboard/RB2011UiAS-2HnD-IN.html
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 1:44 PM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:
>
>> Streakwave and Baltic are out of stock
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul McCall, President
>>
>> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>>
>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>>
>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>>
>> 772-564-6800
>>
>> pa...@pdmnet.net
>>
>> www.pdmnet.com
>>
>> www.floridabroadband.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] hardest thing I've had to do with this biz...

[Jason Wilson]

Set a power Pole, Have temp power brought in (The county should be more
than wiling to work with you on the permit) and use that for your AP's  And
yes free wifi to the neighborhood since they have no power.


Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736
530-748-9608 Cell
www.remotelylocated.com

On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 5:35 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> We had a whole neighborhood burned to the ground earlier this summer.  All
> mobile/manufactured homes.  Some with zero insurance.  At least your folks
> will have a claim against whoever was doing the burn.
>
> -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews
> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 6:13 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] hardest thing I've had to do with this biz...
>
>
> Today in Reno a prescribed burn that was supposed to be out two days ago
> blew up and took out 19 homes.   A large number of them were customers
> including two repeater locations.   How do I go to the people who lost
> their homes and ask to rebuild the repeaters on the ashes?   Sometimes
> this job really sucks...
>
> Robert
>

[AFMUG] AT Reaches Deal to Buy Time Warner for More Than $80 Billion

[Jason Wilson]

Here is something from WSJ.com that might interest you:

AT Reaches Deal to Buy Time Warner for More Than $80 Billion
http://www.wsj.com/articles/at-t-reaches-deal-to-buy-time-warner-for-more-than-80-billion-1477157084

Re: [AFMUG] btest server 1G+

[Jason Wilson]

Subject: Public-Mikrotik-Bandwidth-Test-Server
*EDIT: Feb 24 2016 --- Now supports up to 3.5 Gig speedtest - read all the
posts *
*EDIT: October 7th 2016 --- This btest server now supports 3.6 Gig for both
send and receive tests - please read through all the posts*


I have setup a public accessible Bandwidth test server. It is available for
temporary testing through the Internet.

To use this server to test your Mikrotik devices through the Internet you
agree not to abuse it.

Here are the details for my server:
- x86 ROS hosted on VMware ESXi server (with 10-gig connection to the
Internet)
- Burstable to 250 Meg up/down
- Sustained traffic is limited to 100 Meg up/down (after about 30 to 60
seconds)
- Your maximum connection time for testing is not to exceed 10 minutes.
- IP Address: 207.32.195.2
- btest user authentication needed: User: btest Password: btest
- You may NOT winbox to this machine - you may bandwidth test to it.


Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736
530-748-9608 Cell
www.remotelylocated.com

On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 7:34 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Is there anybody who'd let me run a mikrotik btest to see if my gig pipe
> actually does a gig?
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Linktechs POE

[Jason Wilson]

I have one and love it. Works great to set up equipment with out dragging
cable all over the place. For those that cannot get power out if the rj45.
There is a small black switch next to the port. That should get it working.
There is no detection in it so when you plug something in to it with the
power on ensure it can take the power or the smoke might get let out.

On Dec 15, 2016 11:03 AM, "Jay Weekley"  wrote:

> Has anyone tried this?  Like it? Don't like it?
>
> http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduc
> t=2251=
>

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

[Jason Wilson]

Mikrotik?

On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
wrote:

> we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small sites by
> shutting off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the site, this
> might give us a better window
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is compatible
>> with an Intel Core isn't it?
>>
>> Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Stefan Englhardt" 
>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>
>> They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the
>> oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same SW.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One Guy
>> /sarcasm
>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>
>>
>>
>> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace  and
>> some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt managers
>> here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I
>> signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>>
>> I prefer the Cambium direct link: http://www.cambiumnetwor
>> ks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/
>>
>>
>>
>> Very interesting indeed... very interesting.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat <
>> tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com> wrote:
>>
>> This ought to shake things up a bit.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> / 
>>
>> www.businesswire.com
>>
>> /
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

[Jason Wilson]

ePMP Elevate Compatibility

check the Release Notes for complete details

   - Loco M5 XW
   - Loco M5 XM
   - NanoStation M5 XW
   - NanoStation M5 XM
   - NanoBridge M5 XM
   - Rocket M5 XM
   - Rocket M5 XW
   - Powerbeam M5 XW
   - Airgrid M5HP XW
   - Airgrid M5 XM
   - NanoBeam M5 XW

ePMP Elevate DevelopmentsRELEASE 1.0 - NOW AVAILABLE

   - XM + XW model
   - Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 2016

RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017

   - MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement in Q4, 2016
   - RB911G5HPnDQRT
   - RBSXT5nDr2
   - RB912UAG5HPnDOT

2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017


Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736
530-748-9608 Cell
www.remotelylocated.com

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote:

> Does this work for 11ac Mikrotiks ;-))
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Jason Wilson
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 17:03
> *An:* af@afmug.com
> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
>
>
> I tuned in to the last half of the webinar, Mikrotik is down the road, BUT
> is in the works.  From a 100% Mikrotik network that is a time/cash saver.
>
>
> Jason Wilson
>
> Remotely Located
>
> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>
> 530-651-1736 <(530)%20651-1736>
>
> 530-748-9608 <(530)%20748-9608> Cell
>
> www.remotelylocated.com
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Jason Wilson <ja...@remotelylocated.com>
> wrote:
>
> Mikrotik?
>
>
>
> On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small sites by
> shutting off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the site, this
> might give us a better window
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is compatible
> with an Intel Core isn't it?
>
>
>
> Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
>
> From: "Stefan Englhardt" <s...@genias.net>
>
> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>
> Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
>
>
> They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the
> oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same SW.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
> *An:* af@afmug.com
> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
>
>
> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace  and
> some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt managers
> here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I
> signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak <jno...@lrcomm.com> wrote:
>
> I prefer the Cambium direct link: http://www.
> cambiumnetworks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/
>
>
>
> Very interesting indeed... very interesting.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat <tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com>
> wrote:
>
> This ought to shake things up a bit.
>
>
>
> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/
>
>
>
> <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>
> / <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>
> www.businesswire.com
>
> /
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

[Jason Wilson]

I tuned in to the last half of the webinar, Mikrotik is down the road, BUT
is in the works.  From a 100% Mikrotik network that is a time/cash saver.


Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736
530-748-9608 Cell
www.remotelylocated.com

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Jason Wilson <ja...@remotelylocated.com>
wrote:

> Mikrotik?
>
> On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small sites by
>> shutting off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the site, this
>> might give us a better window
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is compatible
>>> with an Intel Core isn't it?
>>>
>>> Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Original Message --
>>> From: "Stefan Englhardt" <s...@genias.net>
>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>> Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>
>>> They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the
>>> oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same SW.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One Guy
>>> /sarcasm
>>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace  and
>>> some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt managers
>>> here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I
>>> signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak <jno...@lrcomm.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I prefer the Cambium direct link: http://www.cambiumnetwor
>>> ks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Very interesting indeed... very interesting.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat <
>>> tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> This ought to shake things up a bit.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>>
>>> / <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>>
>>> www.businesswire.com
>>>
>>> /
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] tower contract

[Jason Wilson]

Sent Off List


Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736
530-748-9608 Cell
www.remotelylocated.com

On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 8:47 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
wrote:

> Does anyone have a tower contract I can give to a tower owner who wants to
> lease space.  I would be very appreciative.
>
>
>
> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>
> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>
> *602-426-0542 <(602)%20426-0542>*
>
> *r...@triadwireless.net <r...@triadwireless.net>*
>
> *www.triadwireless.net <http://www.triadwireless.net/>*
>
>
>
> “An optimist will tell you the glass is half-full; the pessimist,
> half-empty; and the engineer will tell you the glass is twice the size it
> needs to be”
>
>
>

[AFMUG] ePMP1000 Max PTP length

[Jason Wilson]

The subject says it all.  What is the Maximum link length that a ePMP1000
GPS Lite 5ghz will allow?   More than likely replacing a Mimosa b5c link
that is 23.1 miles.  Mountaintop to Mountaintop.  It looks like I have had
a third b5c die.  I'll know more once we get on site.


Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736
530-748-9608 Cell
www.remotelylocated.com

Re: [AFMUG] power in California

[Jason Wilson]

No issues in the good part of California  We do not claim the Bay area
or any thing south of the grapevine as being California.

On Apr 21, 2017 2:23 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
wrote:

>
> news to us from over here in the east...ok, the south lol
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Friday, April 21, 2017 4:14 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] power in California
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Californias
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Friday, April 21, 2017 3:12 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] power in California
>
>
> San Francisco ≠ California
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 4/21/2017 1:18 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
>
>
>
> http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/massive-power-outage-hits-
> san-francisco-shuts-down-businesses-bart-station-
> traffic-lights/ar-BBA84Jm?li=BBnb7Kz=iehp
>
> just heard about it on the radio
>
> (i listen to way too much talk radio)
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Bill Prince
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Friday, April 21, 2017 3:14 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] power in California
>
>
> Huh?
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 4/21/2017 1:07 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
>
> �
> who forgot to pay the bill?
> �
>
>
>

[AFMUG] Wholesale sip provider

[Jason Wilson]

Who are you using and why?  Who to stay away from?

Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link

[Jason Wilson]

I've got 3 12 footers hanging off a tower. 270' 300' and 330'. Hit me off
list if your interested. I'll be the middle man for the tower owner.

On Aug 2, 2017 11:37 PM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:

I did.  I got a bunch of 6’ dishes.



Rory



*From:* Mitch Koep [mailto:af...@abwisp.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 2, 2017 9:19 PM
*To:* Rory Conaway; af@afmug.com

*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link



8, 10 ,12 foot for 6 GHz (used) sitting in Uvalde Texas

Bet the would be priced right???

Rory did you ever call on them?

Mitch





On 8/2/2017 2:52 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:

I’ll check and see what a 4’ might do.  That would be reasonable.



Rory



*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On Behalf
Of *Hardy, Tim
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 02, 2017 12:28 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link



And good luck finding one – none made for years.



*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On Behalf
Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 02, 2017 3:22 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link



Not only that, the beamwidth would make them impossible to aim.



*From:* Chris Wright

*Sent:* Wednesday, August 02, 2017 1:17 PM

*To:* af@afmug.com

*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link



8’ dishes are stupid-big for a 10 mile link on 18GHz. What kind of speeds
are you trying to push?



Chris Wright

Network Administrator



*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On Behalf
Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 02, 2017 8:49 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link



My 10 mile Dragonwave links had 3 footers I think.



*From:* Rory Conaway

*Sent:* Wednesday, August 02, 2017 9:38 AM

*To:* af@afmug.com

*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link



Use a pair of B5cs with RD-34 dishes with RF Armor shield kits, I’d be
shocked if you can’t get 100Mbps without disrupting anything else.

I just checked a 10 mile 18GHz link in Arizona and they wanted me to use 8’
dishes.



Rory



*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On Behalf
Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 2, 2017 8:18 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link



Yeah, I have used 18 GHz out to 10 miles before in Utah.



*From:* Mike Hammett

*Sent:* Wednesday, August 02, 2017 6:56 AM

*To:* af@afmug.com

*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link



Seems like a waste. 11 GHz is ripe for four miles. In a dry climate, 18 GHz
would work as well.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 




Midwest Internet Exchange 



The Brothers WISP 




--

*From: *"Jay Weekley" 
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Wednesday, August 2, 2017 7:53:09 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link

What about 6 GHz?

Adair Winter wrote:
> Forget 24, 60, 80Ghz if that's what you're thinking
> If you can't do 5 (and you probably can if you think you can pull on
> DFS or UNII-1) than 11 and 11ghz are about your only options.
>
> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 6:47 AM, Eric Rogers > >> wrote:
>
> I need a link that is capable of 4.25 miles, and something over
> 100M.  I fear that 5GHz will be out because of all the used
> spectrum, but wanted to ask what are my options?
>
> Eric Rogers
>
> PDSConnect_logo-Connecting You to the World - Signature Logo
>
> www.pdsconnect.me 
>
> (317) 831-3000 x200 <(317)%20831-3000> >
>
>
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>
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> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 <(806)%20316-5071>
> C: 806.231.7180 <(806)%20231-7180>
> http://www.amarillowireless.net 
> 
>
>
>
> 
> Virus-free. www.avg.com
> 
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Great portable propane generator

[Jason Wilson]

I have not used this but I have heard good things.
http://www.motorsnorkel.com/motor-snorkel-tri-fuel-natural-gas-propane-and-gasoline-conversion-kit-3554.html



On Aug 3, 2017 6:22 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

> If you have a liquid pickup on your large tank you can top them with
> gravity only.  It’s wastes a bit if fuel but you can fill them all the way
> up.
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 03, 2017 6:31 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great portable propane generator
>
> They recomend running the exaust at the tank in the winter, its caveated
> with keeping it at a safe distance. They start fine in the cold. There is a
> model with waterproof plugs, but weve never had issue with rain or snow.
> These are nice, i can toss it in my front seat with a tall tank in my
> alero, the gas ones were too big. We have 5 or six portable gas generators
> collecting dust now
> Transport of fuel and runtime are huge factors, 48 hours of gasoline is
> alot of gas, and youd need an external tank. Propane wont varnish your
> engine guts either. The only thing i dont like about propane is around here
> nobody will top off tanks by weight, they charge a full fill rate, so short
> runs are irritating. Talked to the local propane dealer about topping off
> from our office generator tank, but the pump would be expensive and
> insuring that is expensive.
> We have a split hose too so we can run dual tanks if we know a site will
> be down for an extended time.
>
> We do have some lightweight carbon fiber tanks that you can see the liquid
> level, those are nice. We also use a big heavy chain and padlock to keep
> the generator from walking away, these WILL get stolen.
>
> They have a standby with remote start and all that jazz for about 5k, its
> way more generator than any of our sites need, but its an option.
>
> On Aug 3, 2017 7:03 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>
> Because gas goes stale, spoils, coats the insides of everything with
> varnish etc.
> Propane is OK in cold weather but there is a minimum tank size for
> specific deliveries at different low temps.  The more gas you need or the
> lower the temp the larger the tank.
>
> But for a small generator like this, I really think a 5 gallon tank will
> take you to below zero.
> Perfectly efficient 1000 watts is 3412 Btu/hr  But in the real world
> figure 10 btu/hr per watt.
>
> If it scales linearly, a 5 gallon tank can deliver about 5000 btu/hr at 0
> degrees F.
> So perhaps a 500 watt load on the generator.
>
> Actually I found a chart:
> [image: image]
>
> So, assuming you need 10,000 BTU for 1000 watts, your 5 gallon barbecue
> grill tank will work down to 0 degrees until it drops below 20% full.
>
>
> *From:* Brandon Yuchasz
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 03, 2017 5:49 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great portable propane generator
>
>
> We are in need of a new generator so I am following along with interest.
> My question is why not just use gas instead of propane? What is the up
> side. Second question is how does the propane fair in cold weather. Say 20F
> or less?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 03, 2017 6:22 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great portable propane generator
>
>
>
> How do you weatherproof it, aren't the plugs just exposed on the side?
>
> On 8/3/2017 5:09 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> http://www.genconnexdirect.net/honda_propane_modified_generators.htm
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:45 PM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] <
> j...@brazoswifi.com> wrote:
>
> Where did you buy that nice machine?
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7 active, an AT 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
>
>
>
>  Original message 
>
> From: Steve Jones 
>
> Date: 8/3/17 1:05 PM (GMT-06:00)
>
> To: af@afmug.com
>
> Subject: [AFMUG] Great portable propane generator
>
>
>
> We have a smaller one that started having problems, but this has all the
> prpane guts on the inside and a quick connect hose. Will run close to 48
> hours on a small tank in eco mode.
>
> Easy to start, runs like a champ in all weather conditions
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Minden NV ISP looking for a buyer

[Jason Wilson]

Tonapah brewing company.

On Apr 29, 2017 9:51 AM, "Seth Mattinen"  wrote:

> On 4/29/17 9:33 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
>> I'm near Chicago, so I can drive for two hours and be in the same county
>> (traffic) or I can drive for five and a half hours and still be in the
>> same state (distance).
>>
>>
>
> Vegas is 7-8 hours depending on how fast you drive and if you stop
> anywhere along the way to eat.
>
> ~Seth
>

Re: [AFMUG] Minden NV ISP looking for a buyer

[Jason Wilson]

They all think California, Nevada and Texas are like those other states. A
couple hours drive and you are in the next state. For us a couple hours
gets you to the next county.

On Apr 29, 2017 9:00 AM, "Seth Mattinen"  wrote:

> On 4/29/17 8:50 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
>> Roller Network LLC
>>
>
>
> Maybe I'm getting lazy and spoiled since everyone comes to me, but Minden
> is way too far for me unless it was a hands off check in once a month kind
> of thing.
>
> ~Seth
>

Re: [AFMUG] battery powered wireless test unit

[Jason Wilson]

My fix for that was to gorilla glue the ethernet cable in.  So far so
good.  I have a second that will not power anything.  Need to get it back
to them.


Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736
530-748-9608 Cell
www.remotelylocated.com

On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 8:16 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> Powerlink as well.  Only complaint was the old units have shitty Ethernet
> ports that don't hold the cable and zip ties aren't enough.  I sent mine in
> for repair and happy since.
>
> I've tried tons of home made options... This is the best solution.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On May 12, 2017 10:03 AM, "Matt Corcoran" <m...@stratospeed.com> wrote:
>
>> We use a small 5” inch box with a belt clip.  Inside is a tiny 12V lead
>> acid battery because it is forgiving and easy to charge in the car.  It has
>> a 48volt dc/dc converter with a switch that lets us choose between 12v and
>> 48V so that we can power either Ubiquiti or wimax CPEs.   We have a
>> volt/Amp guage so that we can clearly see what voltage is selected and see
>> the condition of the battery.  The amp guage is handy as it indicates if
>> something is wrong with the line or cpe/line we are testing.   A thermal
>> fuse protects everything against bad cat5,cpes or misconnections.We
>> also have a red jumper with the power lines crossed in case we need to
>> power up an older Canopy unit. Lastly the cigarette lighter port means we
>> can power odd ball devices or a small ac inverter. Been using that for
>> years.
>>
>>
>>
>> I was planning to add an airgateway with Static IPs + DHCP so we can
>> connect to all the different types of equipment we use wirelessly.  If I
>> can’t script it to choose the appropriate default gateway I may use a
>> raspberry pi instead.  Although instead of even doing that.I may next
>> build lithium batteries and wifi into the spare room in the CPE case.
>>  Then its just the cpe on a pole and an iPhone to hold onto. Maybe put an
>> iphone case on the pole.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Matt Corcoran
>>
>> Stratos networks.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of David Coudron <
>> david.coud...@advantenon.com>
>> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> *Date: *Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 10:32 PM
>> *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] battery powered wireless test unit
>>
>>
>>
>> We are using the same.  Works very well as it has the access point built
>> in and you can connect from your phone.   They also have 48V upconvertor if
>> you are not using 24V.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> *David Coudron*
>>
>> david.coud...@advantenon.com  |  *Mobile: *612-991-7474
>> <(612)%20991-7474>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Advantenon, Inc.  *   [image: id:image001.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0]
>> <http://www.linkedin.com/company/Advantenon>  [image:
>> id:image002.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0] <http://www.twitter.com/Advantenon>  
>> [image:
>> id:image003.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0] <http://www.facebook.com/Advantenon>  
>> [image:
>> id:image004.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0] <http://blog.advantenon.com/>
>>
>> i...@advantenon.com  |  3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN
>> 55447  |  www.advantenon.com  |  *Phone:* 800-704-4720 <(800)%20704-4720>
>>  |  *Local: *612-454-1545 <(612)%20454-1545>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 11, 2017 9:20 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] battery powered wireless test unit
>>
>>
>>
>> This:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduc
>> t=2251=
>>
>>
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 5:11 PM Keith Fletcher <
>> anotherwirelessl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> What are you guys using for battery powered wireless testing units?
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] ServerPlus

[Jason Wilson]

We are also getting ready to pull the trigger.  If anyone has decision
trees that are working for them and are willing to share, that would be
appreciated.

Jason




Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736
530-748-9608 Cell
www.remotelylocated.com

On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> If you want to tell JT to look at our support tree you're welcome to use
> it.  We're Powercode as well.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 12:48 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> +1 well put
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: 5/4/2017 9:34:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ServerPlus
>>
>> They are only as good as the decision tree you provide for them.
>>
>> We use them for off hours and overflow.  They don’t make too many
>> customers angry...
>> They do a very good job of acting like they are us when the customer
>> calls, and then that sometimes becomes a bad thing because they are limited
>> in what they can do and that is not good enough for lots of customers.  All
>> call centers have these same problems.
>>
>> I have worked with lots of call centers, and while I just don’t like call
>> centers because they can never be as good as your own people, Server Plus
>> is the best one I have worked with.
>>
>> *From:* Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 03, 2017 10:22 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] ServerPlus
>>
>> I haven't heard  more badgood thatn goodbad about these guys, but we
>> pulled the trigger on these guys.
>> I need a nuts and bolts on dealing with these folks, from initial get
>> good to ongoing get betters.
>>
>> we are caveated with powercode, which may be good, may be bad. Our
>> Customer Service policy is outstanding compared to most, delivery, not so
>> much, I think this is the pickup we need in that department.
>>
>> Any gotchas with these guys?
>>
>>
>> BTW, WISPAmerica must be the shit, cause a ton of stuff got picked up by
>> the bossman.
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Vegas Mass Shooting

[Jason Wilson]

The last half of this sounds like my house.


Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736
530-748-9608 Cell
www.remotelylocated.com

On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> 59 dead, 527 injured,. 18 more guns found at one home with thousands of
> rounds plus electronics of some kind.
>
> On Oct 2, 2017 1:30 PM, "George Skorup" <george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>
>> s/clip/magazine
>>
>> Sorry Bill, had to.
>>
>> On 10/2/2017 12:34 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>
>> Based on what I heard (so far), it had to take many minutes; maybe 15 or
>> 20 or so. From the sound, you could hear what sounded like automatic weapon
>> fire going and going until the clip was empty (and it sounded like a big
>> clip). Then there was a brief pause (people on the scene described it as
>> "30 seconds"), then another round with another clip. There were at least 6
>> or 7 clips.
>>
>> There are probably eye witness errors in the above description, but if
>> it's even close to correct, it is pretty scary.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>> On 10/2/2017 10:08 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
>>
>>
>> How long did this event last?
>> From the time he started shooting how long until police found him and he
>> killed himself ?
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>>
>> - Reply message -
>> From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> <r...@triadwireless.net>
>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> <af@afmug.com> <af@afmug.com>
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Vegas Mass Shooting
>> Date: Mon, Oct 2, 2017 11:59 AM
>>
>> I think the best thing to do is wait to see if the authorities can find a
>> motive. I’ve got family up there in Law Enforcement but haven’t heard from
>> them yet.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 2, 2017 9:52 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Vegas Mass Shooting
>>
>>
>>
>> +1, let's please not get into a political fight.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>>
>> From: "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>>
>> To: af@afmug.com
>>
>> Sent: 10/2/2017 12:42:08 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vegas Mass Shooting
>>
>>
>>
>> While I won't get into gun politics I will say there are a bunch of
>> extremely fervent views on the subject. All dearly felt with logical
>> reasons behind them. I am not sure the opposing sides think the
>> opposition's reasons are valid. I think we can agree, without political
>> discussions, that crazy is crazy. And while I hate to see this like
>> everyone else, I don't think most freedom loving people would be willing to
>> do what it takes to stop all potentially crazy people from doing such
>> things.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would hope to head off any political debates on the list.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:30 AM Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I had never seen these bump stop devices.  It is hard to believe that
>> they are legal, and do not require a machine gun license.  I expect that
>> will not last.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Well crazy is crazy no matter what.  I don't care what allegiance they
>> claim..this was a massacre committed by a fucked up person.  People died
>> for no good reason.  As much heat as I will take for this, easy access to
>> guns has got to change.  Fuck the politics.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 2, 2017 10:10 AM, "Cameron Crum" <cc...@wispmon.com> wrote:
>>
>> Well that is some relief.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
>>
>> FBI says no...
>>
>> On 10/2/17 9:09 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:
>>
>> ISIS is claiming he was a recent convert and they are responsible, not
>> verified yet, but if true is pretty scary.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I have never been asked any questions comin

Re: [AFMUG] Vegas Mass Shooting

[Jason Wilson]

I need to clarify my last message. in California we have the pleasure of
waiting 10 days before we can pick up the firearms that we purchased. in
the state of Nevada there is no waiting period and they can be purchased
over the counter

On Oct 2, 2017 3:26 PM, "Carl Peterson"  wrote:

> How on earth does someone buy that many guns and that much ammo without
> setting off all sorts of sirens?  You would think ATF would have some sort
> of triggers set for when someone buys a bunch of guns and ammo.
>
> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 6:06 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> 59 dead, 527 injured,. 18 more guns found at one home with thousands of
>> rounds plus electronics of some kind.
>>
>> On Oct 2, 2017 1:30 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:
>>
>>> s/clip/magazine
>>>
>>> Sorry Bill, had to.
>>>
>>> On 10/2/2017 12:34 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>>
>>> Based on what I heard (so far), it had to take many minutes; maybe 15 or
>>> 20 or so. From the sound, you could hear what sounded like automatic weapon
>>> fire going and going until the clip was empty (and it sounded like a big
>>> clip). Then there was a brief pause (people on the scene described it as
>>> "30 seconds"), then another round with another clip. There were at least 6
>>> or 7 clips.
>>>
>>> There are probably eye witness errors in the above description, but if
>>> it's even close to correct, it is pretty scary.
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/2/2017 10:08 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> How long did this event last?
>>> From the time he started shooting how long until police found him and he
>>> killed himself ?
>>>
>>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>>>
>>> - Reply message -
>>> From: "Rory Conaway"  
>>> To: "af@afmug.com"   
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Vegas Mass Shooting
>>> Date: Mon, Oct 2, 2017 11:59 AM
>>>
>>> I think the best thing to do is wait to see if the authorities can find
>>> a motive. I’ve got family up there in Law Enforcement but haven’t heard
>>> from them yet.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 2, 2017 9:52 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Vegas Mass Shooting
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> +1, let's please not get into a political fight.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Original Message --
>>>
>>> From: "Lewis Bergman" 
>>>
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>
>>> Sent: 10/2/2017 12:42:08 PM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vegas Mass Shooting
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> While I won't get into gun politics I will say there are a bunch of
>>> extremely fervent views on the subject. All dearly felt with logical
>>> reasons behind them. I am not sure the opposing sides think the
>>> opposition's reasons are valid. I think we can agree, without political
>>> discussions, that crazy is crazy. And while I hate to see this like
>>> everyone else, I don't think most freedom loving people would be willing to
>>> do what it takes to stop all potentially crazy people from doing such
>>> things.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would hope to head off any political debates on the list.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:30 AM Jeremy  wrote:
>>>
>>> I had never seen these bump stop devices.  It is hard to believe that
>>> they are legal, and do not require a machine gun license.  I expect that
>>> will not last.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Jaime Solorza <
>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well crazy is crazy no matter what.  I don't care what allegiance they
>>> claim..this was a massacre committed by a fucked up person.  People died
>>> for no good reason.  As much heat as I will take for this, easy access to
>>> guns has got to change.  Fuck the politics.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 2, 2017 10:10 AM, "Cameron Crum"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Well that is some relief.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Robert  wrote:
>>>
>>> FBI says no...
>>>
>>> On 10/2/17 9:09 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:
>>>
>>> ISIS is claiming he was a recent convert and they are responsible, not
>>> verified yet, but if true is pretty scary.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Lewis Bergman >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> I have never been asked any questions coming in and out of Vegas
>>> hotels. There are so many conventions they are used to people who
>>> don't like storing all their expensive gear in the conference room
>>> or whatever.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 10:49 AM Steve Jones
>>>
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 10 rifles and 10k rounds isnt alot of real estate for travel
>>> luggage transport

Re: [AFMUG] Vegas Mass Shooting

[Jason Wilson]

Very easy. Anyone can buy ammo. Here in California, which us one of the
harder places to buy firearms, I can buy 12 handguns a year. One every 30
days. My wife can do the same. Long guns currently are as many as you can
afford.

On Oct 2, 2017 3:26 PM, "Carl Peterson"  wrote:

> How on earth does someone buy that many guns and that much ammo without
> setting off all sorts of sirens?  You would think ATF would have some sort
> of triggers set for when someone buys a bunch of guns and ammo.
>
> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 6:06 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> 59 dead, 527 injured,. 18 more guns found at one home with thousands of
>> rounds plus electronics of some kind.
>>
>> On Oct 2, 2017 1:30 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:
>>
>>> s/clip/magazine
>>>
>>> Sorry Bill, had to.
>>>
>>> On 10/2/2017 12:34 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>>
>>> Based on what I heard (so far), it had to take many minutes; maybe 15 or
>>> 20 or so. From the sound, you could hear what sounded like automatic weapon
>>> fire going and going until the clip was empty (and it sounded like a big
>>> clip). Then there was a brief pause (people on the scene described it as
>>> "30 seconds"), then another round with another clip. There were at least 6
>>> or 7 clips.
>>>
>>> There are probably eye witness errors in the above description, but if
>>> it's even close to correct, it is pretty scary.
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/2/2017 10:08 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> How long did this event last?
>>> From the time he started shooting how long until police found him and he
>>> killed himself ?
>>>
>>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>>>
>>> - Reply message -
>>> From: "Rory Conaway"  
>>> To: "af@afmug.com"   
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Vegas Mass Shooting
>>> Date: Mon, Oct 2, 2017 11:59 AM
>>>
>>> I think the best thing to do is wait to see if the authorities can find
>>> a motive. I’ve got family up there in Law Enforcement but haven’t heard
>>> from them yet.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 2, 2017 9:52 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Vegas Mass Shooting
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> +1, let's please not get into a political fight.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Original Message --
>>>
>>> From: "Lewis Bergman" 
>>>
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>
>>> Sent: 10/2/2017 12:42:08 PM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vegas Mass Shooting
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> While I won't get into gun politics I will say there are a bunch of
>>> extremely fervent views on the subject. All dearly felt with logical
>>> reasons behind them. I am not sure the opposing sides think the
>>> opposition's reasons are valid. I think we can agree, without political
>>> discussions, that crazy is crazy. And while I hate to see this like
>>> everyone else, I don't think most freedom loving people would be willing to
>>> do what it takes to stop all potentially crazy people from doing such
>>> things.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would hope to head off any political debates on the list.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:30 AM Jeremy  wrote:
>>>
>>> I had never seen these bump stop devices.  It is hard to believe that
>>> they are legal, and do not require a machine gun license.  I expect that
>>> will not last.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Jaime Solorza <
>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well crazy is crazy no matter what.  I don't care what allegiance they
>>> claim..this was a massacre committed by a fucked up person.  People died
>>> for no good reason.  As much heat as I will take for this, easy access to
>>> guns has got to change.  Fuck the politics.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 2, 2017 10:10 AM, "Cameron Crum"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Well that is some relief.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Robert  wrote:
>>>
>>> FBI says no...
>>>
>>> On 10/2/17 9:09 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:
>>>
>>> ISIS is claiming he was a recent convert and they are responsible, not
>>> verified yet, but if true is pretty scary.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Lewis Bergman >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> I have never been asked any questions coming in and out of Vegas
>>> hotels. There are so many conventions they are used to people who
>>> don't like storing all their expensive gear in the conference room
>>> or whatever.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 10:49 AM Steve Jones
>>>
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 10 rifles and 10k rounds isnt alot of real estate for travel
>>> luggage transport
>>>
>>>  

Re: [AFMUG] Basic Ethernet cable tester that survives PoE voltage?

[Jason Wilson]

I got one this year. Love it. It saved my bacon twice. Paid for it's self
the first time. Wiremap is the best. Customer said cat5 in the house is
straight through. Electrician confirmed. I showed a break at about 100
feet. Electrician crawled the attic and found one of his minions put in a
junction and swapped a pair. The swearing from the attic was priceless.
Next day said minion re pulled the cat5. When he was done electrician fired
him.

On Sep 8, 2017 10:51 AM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

> Did you ever get yours?  Get to test it?
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> 
> Suite 1337
> 
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>
> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 1:35 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
>> Pockethernet?
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *"Colin Stanners" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Friday, September 8, 2017 11:57:59 AM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Basic Ethernet cable tester that survives PoE voltage?
>>
>> I'm looking for a basic-level Ethernet cable tester that only checks the
>> wiremap, gives pass/fail and preferably is <$100 and has a simple TDR.
>>
>> It must survive Canopy 30V PoE voltage as it seems that many of the dead
>> testers that we have in a pile are due to field techs plugging them into
>> live lines. Monoprice $80 tester is OK but definitely does not survive the
>> live lines.
>>
>> A test I'm considering is soldering ~15V zener diodes inside a unit to
>> trigger a PSU's short protection before frying the cable tester...
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Jason Wilson]

FEMA Presser Dates 9/24/17

Federal Response Teams Assisting in Puerto Rico and U.S. Virgin Islands
Release date:
September 24, 2017
Release Number:
HQ-17-138

WASHINGTON – In the wake of Hurricane Maria, life, personal safety, and
access to safe shelters for disaster survivors remain a priority of local
responders, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), and the entire
federal family.

To aid in life sustaining missions, six FEMA Urban Search and Rescue (US)
task forces are deployed to the U.S. Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico and are
working in tandem with numerous federal partners to rescue and render aid
to distressed survivors in the region.  Additional FEMA US task forces
are arriving today to expand operations, as areas become accessible. FEMA
US task forces currently conducting operations in Puerto Rico and the
U.S. Virgin Islands include Virginia Task Forces 1 and 2, Florida Task
Forces 1 and 2, and California Task Forces 6 and 7. Components of New York
Task Force 1 and Massachusetts Task Force 1 are on the ground providing
logistics support.

Federal partners assisting with Search and Rescue (SAR) missions include
the U.S. Coast Guard, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), U.S.
Department of Agriculture, U.S. Department of Defense (DoD), and the U.S.
Department of the Interior / National Park Service.

Collectively, these federal agencies have rescued 180 individuals and
searched more than 45 structures in Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands.

[image: five men in uniform stand around the hood of a car and look at a
piece of paper]

*FEMA Urban Search and Rescue task force members meet with local officials
on St. Croix to coordinate search and rescue operations.*

The U.S. Coast Guard is operating nine cutters in the vicinity of Puerto
Rico and U.S. Virgin Islands, bringing helicopter SAR support, while teams
from CBP are operating two P-3 maritime patrol aircraft to assist in
communications, a wide-area search, and distress signal monitoring
capabilities. An additional five flight deck-equipped cutters, five patrol
boats, four rotary wing, and one fixed wing aircraft are moving to the
vicinity of U.S. Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico to further support search
and rescue efforts.

While US teams continue targeted sweeps of the affected areas, teams from
the U.S. Forest Service (USFS) and Bureau of Land Management are providing
security and force protection to rescuers.

Department of Defense support includes helicopter SAR flights, damage
assessment flights, beach assessments, and patient evacuation flights flown
from the amphibious ships USS Kearsarge and USS Oak Hill and Marines
embarked from the 26thMarine Expeditionary Unit.

FEMA US teams are organized under the National Urban Search and Rescue
Response System, which partners federal, state and local partner emergency
response teams to create 28 US task forces. These 28 task forces are
located throughout the continental United States and can be activated to
provide assistance in survivor rescue, damage assessment, and SAR in a
water environment. The task forces deployed consist of multi-faceted, and
cross-trained personnel who service in major functional areas to include:
search, rescue, medical, hazardous materials, logistics, and planning. A
task force also includes technical specialists, such as physicians,
structural engineers, and canine search teams.

The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) and the DoD conducted
medical evacuations for more than 100 patients from the islands to the
continental United States.

The National Guard Bureau (NGB) has more than 2,300 Guard members on the
ground in Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands taking part in security
and support operations. The Air National Guard is focused on transporting
food, water, and communications capabilities as well as rapidly increasing
airlift into affected areas.

FEMA, working in coordination with federal partners, provided more than
1.5-million meals, 1.1-million liters of water, nearly 300 infant and
toddler kits, and nearly 12,000 emergency roofing kits to the U.S. Virgin
Islands and Puerto Rico for distribution to the public since Hurricane
Maria’s landfall.


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On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 6:59 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Just saw and heard the mayor of San Juan... We need our military to deploy
> immediately to assist...they are trained and have logistics
> expertise...cruise liners could take a shitload of supplies them...damn we
> are the most powerful country and we are dropping the ball.
>
> On Sep 26, 2017 7:35 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I saw that on news..they need gasoline for generators..I have seen the
>> COWs military uses during war games at McGregor and White Sands Missile
>

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone has a plane that i can charter for cargo?

[Jason Wilson]

Gino,. Email me privately, call me, text me find me on Facebook. I have
some folks with federal and military contacts looking for a solution for
you.

Jason

On Sep 28, 2017 2:34 PM, "Steve Jones"  wrote:

> have you talked to the air national guard? thats what my air force guy
> said to do. I dont know if theyve been federalized or no, doesnt sound like
> they have, so they may have a little more leniency in their discretion
>
> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 4:22 PM,  wrote:
>
>> Bruce, time to head to PR for a few weeks!
>>
>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:20 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Anyone has a plane that i can charter for cargo?
>>
>> Need to move gear! Not getting any help from FEMA or DHS
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT New Bragging Rights

[Jason Wilson]

That's gonna hurt coming out.

On Sep 29, 2017 9:00 AM,  wrote:

> Last night, my son was inside my water truck welding a spot of damage.
>
> I was manning the ventilation equipment and making sure he was alive
> through the process.  I could watch his progress by looking up from below
> watching the orange glow of the steel.  In one spot he burned through.  A
> glop of molten steel dropped, bounced and went right into the back of my
> mouth.  I instinctively swallowed.
>
> So, I can say I have swallowed molten steel.  (sore throat this morning).
>
> Stay thirsty my friends.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

[Jason Wilson]

>From NANOG last night.


Hurrican Harvey DIRS report

5 radio stations out of service (WKNC, KKTX, KUNO, KKWV, and KAYK)
149,909 cable and wireline subscribers out of service (5 switching centers
out of service, and 38 switching centers on backup power)
4% of cell sites out of service (Aransas, Reugio and San Patricio, TX have
more than 50% of cell sites out of service)
9 PSAPs out of service or calls re-routed to another PSAP

Aransas, TX is very rural, with only 19 cell sites, 18 out of service.


https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-346368A1.pdf




On Aug 27, 2017 10:32 AM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:

> I saw reports this morning of 22+ inches of rain in certain areas, with >
> 10 inches expected in the next few days. Rockport seems to be the hardest
> hit.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 8/27/2017 9:11 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
>> Hey guys , anyone getting hammered with rain and winds down in Hill
>> Country areas? Tushar, Alan? Some flooding in San Antonio and especially
>> Houston  but haven't heard about Austin, Llano, Marble Falls, etc. I have
>> some Cambium 180s spares and one Epmp1000 .. stay safe
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>
>

[AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android

[Jason Wilson]

Convince me not to give up my Pixel XL for any version of an iPhone.  All
of my Computers are MacOS.

Jason
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Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android

[Jason Wilson]

Thank you all for your input.  Yes I agree that if you have an android make 
sure it is a pure android device, #saynotosamsung.  I have a decision to make 
and I am stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Thanks Guys.

Jason
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> On Dec 18, 2017, at 12:26 PM, Doug Hass <hassd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> If I had an Android today, it would be a Pixel. I totally agree that stock 
> Android is the way to go.
> El El lun, dic. 18, 2017 a las 12:21 p. m., Jason McKemie 
> <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com <mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>> 
> escribió:
> I agree, I've had Nexus phones for a few years and now have a Pixel XL. It's 
> a great phone - the stock Android devices are a bit of a different animal 
> than the modified ones. 
> 
> On Monday, December 18, 2017, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I am about as much as an anti-apple fanboy as you can get. 
> 
> Sure their products are good, but you must live in the little narrow space 
> that they allow for you. Too restrictive for me.
> 
> 
> When people talk about "Android", they are often talking about someone's 
> modified version of Android, the most prominent one being Samsung. Samsung 
> phones are a very modified version of Android. 
> 
> We have been using Nexus phones (6P) for a couple of years now. They run pure 
> Android, and they work very, very well.
> 
> 
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> 
> On 12/18/2017 4:26 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> I can't imagine any scenario where I would give up Android for iPhone.
>> 
>> Especially an IT person.
>> 
>> Especially a radio person.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>  <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> 
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> 
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> 
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>  <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> 
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> 
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>  <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>> 
>> 
>>  <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> From: "Jason Wilson" <ja...@remotelylocated.com> 
>> <mailto:ja...@remotelylocated.com>
>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 1:27:41 AM
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Convince me not to give up my Pixel XL for any version of an iPhone.  All of 
>> my Computers are MacOS.
>> 
>> Jason
>> Jason Wilson
>> Remotely Located
>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>> 530-651-1736 <tel:%28530%29%20651-1736> Office
>> 530-748-9608 <tel:%28530%29%20748-9608> Cell
>> www.remotelylocated.com <http://www.remotelylocated.com/>
>> 
>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] N-connector Patch

[Jason Wilson]

Make your own.

On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 5:47 PM Jeff Broadwick - Lists 
wrote:

> Agreed, but the way their warehouse fees work it’s best to order them in
> quantity or with other gear.
>
> Jeff Broadwick
> CTIconnect
> 312-205-2519 Office
> 574-220-7826 Cell
> jbroadw...@cticonnect.com
>
> On May 25, 2018, at 7:04 PM, Colin Stanners  wrote:
>
> Kp performance
> On May 25, 2018 4:50 PM, "Matt"  wrote:
>
>> What is everyone using for a source of N-connector patch cables?  18
>> inch to 24 inch range for connecting say a Cambium PTP450 to dish etc.
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed

[Jason Wilson]

I am running Mimosa b5c on a RD34 38km 2x40mhz



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On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 10:43 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Which is better, Rocket 5AC + RocketDish LW
> or
> AF5X + AF-5G34-S45
>
> ?
>
> Or some other brand.  Hauling out PTP to a customer.  Like to keep the
> bandwidth up but they are not currently asking for more than 100 Mbps.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling

[Jason Wilson]

This is what I use for my tower sites.
http://www.dymo.com/en-US/dymo-labeling-needs/wire-cable-labeling/wire-cable-labeling/ind-heat-shrink-tube-3-8-in

http://www.dymo.com/en-US/dymo-labeling-needs/wire-cable-labeling/wire-cable-labeling/rhino-industrial-5200-label-maker

It will layout labels for just about any  rack, power panel you name it. It
was worth the price. The heat shrink labels have lasted 2 years in the
weather so far.



On Dec 28, 2017 10:38 AM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> The markers I use from Home Depot hold up verymost of wiring goes
> through conduit at well sites
>
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Dec 28, 2017 9:31 AM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>
>> I could ship you mine but your right, Without an ID toner there is a lot
>> of running back and forth.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 10:25 AM Nate Burke  wrote:
>>
>>> I like the fast pull plan, but I'm probably going to be doing all the
>>> termination by myself, so that involves alot of running back and forth.  I
>>> don't have that fancy of a toner, just a simple (and cheap) telco one,
>>> which always seems to be able to narrow it down to about 4 cables in the
>>> bundle that all tone equally.  I like Chuck's Binary idea, maybe vertical
>>> and horizontal lines with a sharpie.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/28/2017 9:55 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm with Lewis on this one. We do bundle duplex/quad groups together,
>>> but we don't worry about individual cables. We use the ID plugs and a toner
>>> to figure out which one is which. Labels fall off, and markers smear,
>>> especially when they're getting manhandled.
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/28/2017 7:32 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>>
>>> Honestly, we just pull them all and tone them after. Seems just as fast.
>>> We have a Fluke cable tester that has 8 ID plugs and the probe tells you
>>> which one you touch so you can do 8 at once. At least I think that is how
>>> it works. Even if not toning is pretty fast way. We put a guy on each end
>>> and start toning and punching each end as they go.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:25 AM Jaime Solorza 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 These are the ones I use on panels and end devices most of the time for
 SCADA projects.  Electricians use them as well when they pull wire for
 us...once tested and certified, we make our heat shrink and non heat shrink
 Brady ID labels never remove the original ones.  We reposition if
 necessary..

 https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ideal-Wire-Marker-Booklet-Legend
 -10-Pack-44-103/100118633

 Jaime Solorza

 On Dec 28, 2017 8:16 AM, "Jaime Solorza" 
 wrote:

 Here you go... several ways to get it done..

 https://www.cableorganizer.com/cable-identification/
 Jaime Solorza

 On Dec 28, 2017 8:12 AM,  wrote:

> Sharpie works but is difficult to do well and rubs off.
> You could use strips of tape and sharpie to do a binary code.
> Tape, tape, sharpie, tape = 13
>
> -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, December
> 28, 2017 8:06 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling
> I'm getting ready to pull some Cat5 into an office space, about 40
> drops.  What's the best way to label the cables as they are pulled before
> they are dressed/punched.  Printing a label for each cable that's going to
> get cut off as it's dressed into the patch panel seems wasteful.  Colored
> tape could work, but may get cumbersome with the combinations.  Is writing
> the drop number on the jacket with a Sharpie the best way?
>


>>>

Re: [AFMUG] unsubscribe

[Jason Wilson]

It is pretty much like a gang or a cult.  Once you’re in you are in for life.

Just like with Hughes Net Contracts the only way our is to die, but please send 
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> On Feb 28, 2018, at 3:51 PM, Richard Pedersen <r...@cybernet1.com> wrote:
> 
> How do I get off this list?  I have done everything possible to no avail  
> Emailing the operators of this list doesn’t get any response. the unsubscribe 
> doesn’t work either.  I have been trying for 2 weeks this is a last ditch 
> effort

Re: [AFMUG] unsubscribe

[Jason Wilson]

All in jest of course.  Other than that I have no Clue how to get out.


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> On Feb 28, 2018, at 3:54 PM, Jason Wilson <ja...@remotelylocated.com> wrote:
> 
> It is pretty much like a gang or a cult.  Once you’re in you are in for life.
> 
> Just like with Hughes Net Contracts the only way our is to die, but please 
> send a copy of the death certificate before we cancel you.
> 
> Jason Wilson
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> 
>> On Feb 28, 2018, at 3:51 PM, Richard Pedersen <r...@cybernet1.com 
>> <mailto:r...@cybernet1.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> How do I get off this list?  I have done everything possible to no avail  
>> Emailing the operators of this list doesn’t get any response. the 
>> unsubscribe doesn’t work either.  I have been trying for 2 weeks this is a 
>> last ditch effort
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Product Stock

[Jason Wilson]

How many do you need? I have 12 gige-apc-hv on the shelf


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> On Apr 4, 2018, at 1:39 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
> 
> 800-GIGE-APC-HV

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?

[Jason Wilson]

Most APC’s can be monitored over USP through a Mikrotik router (anyone with a 
USB port).  That is what we do for out smaller site, in-fact we usually add 
external batteries for longer runtime.

Jason
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> On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Justin Marshall <just...@pdmnet.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> Does anyone know of any cheap consumer level UPS’s that can be monitored via 
> SNMP over ethernet?
> Something non-rack mountable and that doesn’t require external batteries?
> Everything I find wants to be monitored through USB with proprietary programs 
> like Powerchute, etc…
>  
> Thanks,
> Justin

Re: [AFMUG] Circuit breaker clearance

[Jason Wilson]

https://www.nfpa.org/codes-and-standards/all-codes-and-standards/list-of-codes-and-standards/detail?code=70
 


Click Free access.  Setup a profile with NFPA and you get free access to the 
2017 NEC.


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> On Mar 20, 2018, at 9:22 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> 
> Thanks. Better than the 72” I was thinking. No idea where my NEC is...
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 16, 2018, at 10:14 PM, Seth Mattinen  wrote:
>> 
>>> On 3/15/18 12:03 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>> I am installing a backup generator.  I know  you have to have 3 feet of 
>>> clearance between a circuit breaker panel front and anything else.
>>> Do I need 3 feet from the side of the generator where it’s disconnect 
>>> switch is and then another 3 feet to the transfer switch that will be 
>>> mounted on an H frame on that same side?  So 6 feet total?
>> 
>> 
>> Code is minimum 4' for up to 600V. Comfort is more.
>> 
>> 36" from exposed live parts on one side of the working space and the 
>> opposing face is non conductive or insulated
>> 
>> 42" if the other side of the working space is grounded (includes concrete, 
>> brick, and tile)
>> 
>> 48" if both sides can have exposed lived parts.