[AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown
Planning to buy another /21 or some such thing again .. So going to attempt to NAT the whole frigging company. Seems like I am going in reverse here. If we can make NAT work for most customers, then that will buy us time to build our magic V4 translator gateway box for a V6 only

[AFMUG] AF24 link that won't pass an RFC2544 test at 500 Mbps

2018-01-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Hey Ubiquiti people who might be watching the list, If you're watching the list, please contact me... I have an AF24 link with "perfect" RF characteristics that won't pass a 500 Mbps full duplex RFC2544 test. It also fails MEF y.1731 tests at the same data rate. 1.70 km, -55 RSL symmetric on

Re: [AFMUG] VDSL2 DSLAM options

2018-01-15 Thread Sam Lambie
Rob, What speeds are you seeing to the CPE? What modems are you using? Do they have wireless capability or do you add another Router off of that? On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 10:27 AM, Rob Genovesi wrote: > We have a Versa VX-M208S at a small MDU to use existing copper. No

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Post

2018-01-15 Thread Darren Shea
The movie is scary because he brings Faygo soda into the server room!!! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 10:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Post A movie about a juggalo IT guy? Didn't see it. Don't want to.

Re: [AFMUG] VDSL2 DSLAM options

2018-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown
If your loops are short enough, use g.fast. From: Sam Lambie Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 9:51 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] VDSL2 DSLAM options Hey all, I am looking at replacing a very old DSLAM that we have had in operation for the past 13 years. It is slow and dying. Looking at

Re: [AFMUG] PC Out of Band management

2018-01-15 Thread George Skorup
I've got three SuperMicro 5018A-FTN4's deployed at towers as anycast DNS/NTP/RADIUS/etc nodes. Plenty fast and pull only about 20-25W. The fan is nearly silent unless you kick it up to full speed. Single SSD and 16GB of RAM. You get IPMI and quad Intel NICs. Just note it takes ECC SO-DIMMs.

Re: [AFMUG] VDSL2 DSLAM options

2018-01-15 Thread Sam Lambie
https://www.versatek.com/blog/the-problems-with-g-fast/ On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 10:09 AM, Sam Lambie wrote: > This is what the DSLAM supports for VDSL2 > > Here is a link to their model page: https://www.versatek. > com/product/vx-m208s-8-port-vdsl2-mini-ip-dslam/ > > >

[AFMUG] Power supply for multiple 450ms

2018-01-15 Thread Sam Lambie
Hey all, I am looking for a single power supply that can handle the load for 4 - 450m's The specs from one power supply provided by cambium is 58v 1.7a Is there such a thing as 58v 8 amp power supplies that can handle 4 radios booting up at the same time? -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 link that won't pass an RFC2544 test at 500 Mbps

2018-01-15 Thread Colin Stanners
What are the flow control settings? I remember seeing a graph that flow control has a big effect on whether AirFibers can hit near the full speed. On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Hey Ubiquiti people who might be watching the list, > > If you're

[AFMUG] PC Out of Band management

2018-01-15 Thread Nate Burke
I'm looking to put a PC at a site, but I want true out of Band management for it, I.E. Be able to turn off the Ethernet Interfaces or Change IP Addresses without dropping management connectivity. I'm used to working with the Supermicro motherboards built in IPMI Functionality, which is

Re: [AFMUG] PC Out of Band management

2018-01-15 Thread Nate Burke
I'm working at a site with Dual WAN feeds (from 3rd parties), I think one of them is acting up, not packet loss, but other weird browsing issues, websites half loading, video buffering, but speedtests are fine. I'd like to put a PC there, and test/troubleshoot the troublesome link remotely so

Re: [AFMUG] PC Out of Band management

2018-01-15 Thread Steve Jones
dual NICs with teamviewer is what i use to manage our office rack On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:25 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > This sounds like a goofy use case. > > Maybe a raspberry pi with a usb NIC? > > What are you needing this for? > > On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:11 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Post

2018-01-15 Thread Jeremy
What is he, some sort of a Juggalo?!?! On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 8:40 AM, Darren Shea wrote: > The movie is scary because he brings Faygo soda into the server room!!! > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup > *Sent:* Friday, January 12, 2018

Re: [AFMUG] VDSL2 DSLAM options

2018-01-15 Thread Sam Lambie
This is what the DSLAM supports for VDSL2 Here is a link to their model page: https://www.versatek.com/product/vx-m208s-8-port-vdsl2-mini-ip-dslam/ - VDSL2 ITU-T G.993.2 - VDSL2 Profiles: 8a, 8b, 8c, 8d, 12a, 12b, 17a and 30a - 802.1d L2 Bridging - DHCP /Client/Relay/Option82 -

Re: [AFMUG] PC Out of Band management

2018-01-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
This sounds like a goofy use case. Maybe a raspberry pi with a usb NIC? What are you needing this for? On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Nate Burke wrote: > I'm looking to put a PC at a site, but I want true out of Band management > for it, I.E. Be able to turn off the

Re: [AFMUG] PC Out of Band management

2018-01-15 Thread can...@believewireless.net
You could get an IP KVM for a single PC. On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 10:33 AM, Steve Jones wrote: > dual NICs with teamviewer is what i use to manage our office rack > > On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:25 AM, Josh Reynolds > wrote: > >> This sounds like a

Re: [AFMUG] PC Out of Band management

2018-01-15 Thread Robert
https://www.amazon.com/Supermicro-A2SAV-Mini-ITX-Motherboard/dp/B076J1FJD2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1516032797=8-1=a2sav There are also versions of this a little pricier that will take more memory.. But these perform pretty well even with only 8 gigs.. On 1/15/18 7:11 AM, Nate Burke wrote: I'm

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 link that won't pass an RFC2544 test at 500 Mbps

2018-01-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Same results for sequence errors either with or without flow control enabled on the radios, and switch ports that connect to them. On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:23 AM, Colin Stanners wrote: > What are the flow control settings? I remember seeing a graph that flow > control

Re: [AFMUG] VDSL2 DSLAM options

2018-01-15 Thread Rob Genovesi
We have a Versa VX-M208S at a small MDU to use existing copper. No frills, just works. Rob Genovesi • Coastside.Net • Owner 650-712-5900 • 525B Obispo Rd • Half Moon Bay CA On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:10 AM, Sam Lambie wrote: > This is what the DSLAM supports for VDSL2 >

[AFMUG] VDSL2 DSLAM options

2018-01-15 Thread Sam Lambie
Hey all, I am looking at replacing a very old DSLAM that we have had in operation for the past 13 years. It is slow and dying. Looking at VDSL2 and am wondering if any of you have had experience with them. The building is an old 1980's concrete behemoth that is a wifi killer, hence the need for

Re: [AFMUG] Power supply for multiple 450ms

2018-01-15 Thread Sean Heskett
This is what cambium recommends: https://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=N00L101A -Sean On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 10:22 AM Sam Lambie wrote: > Hey all, I am looking for a single power supply that can handle the load > for 4 - 450m's > > The specs from one power

Re: [AFMUG] PC Out of Band management

2018-01-15 Thread Dennis Burgess
Except TeamViewer has been hacked.. lol Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread Adam Moffett
the 1072 has 72 cores. We have a 1036 (36 core) doing NAT for over a thousand LTE+Wimax customers. CPU usage is like 30%. The "firewall" and "networking" processes account for most of the usage. We could extrapolate that to say a 1072 could maybe 4,000 with 60% CPU usage.just a guess

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread Steve Jones
srcnat is what we use. 1800 connections right now from one section of the network On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 1:10 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > What flavor of NAT does mikrotik implement? > > *From:* Chuck McCown > *Sent:* Monday, January 15, 2018 12:07 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com >

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread Steve Jones
another router has a little over 7k established customer nat connections right now, not sure what our radio and infrastructure count is. running 2% cpu load with ospf and bgp. If I look at any other tcp state the number just keeps going up On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 1:25 PM, Mathew Howard

Re: [AFMUG] LACP or what for non symetric throughput

2018-01-15 Thread Steve Jones
so what options do I have here/ we are currently bench testing lacp in HP switches to get moving, but need a longer term better solution On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 6:38 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > im not being argumentative btw, im outside my scope, just showing my data >

Re: [AFMUG] LACP or what for non symetric throughput

2018-01-15 Thread Steve Jones
where would you define the link capacities in OSPF setup? What makes L3 preferable to L2 for this? In my particular case, im going to leave the rb1100ahx2 in place and bring the fiber down to HP switches. Mainly because I have the switches and dont want to immediately replace the routers with

Re: [AFMUG] CCR1032 to CRS125 Fiber

2018-01-15 Thread Dennis Burgess
Wiki.mikrotik.com lists what SFP+ models can use 1Gig or not. They are listed and it is well documented. Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE,

Re: [AFMUG] VDSL2 DSLAM options

2018-01-15 Thread Rob Genovesi
Versa DSLAM we got off Amazon. I sent you my sales rep info for SmartRG. There are other vendors available for modems as well (we've also used Zyxel and Zhone). I prefer SmartRG because they have a TR-069 ACS platform we are now utilizing for remote management of modems. -Rob On Mon, Jan 15,

Re: [AFMUG] VDSL2 DSLAM options

2018-01-15 Thread Dave
Curious about this as we too have an older Dslam that needs upgrading On 01/15/2018 10:51 AM, Sam Lambie wrote: Hey all, I am looking at replacing a very old DSLAM that we have had in operation for the past 13 years. It is slow and dying. Looking at VDSL2 and am wondering if any of you have

Re: [AFMUG] OT Holiday?

2018-01-15 Thread Steve Jones
whats a holiday? On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 3:34 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I was wondering why traffic was down to my e commerce site. > > Then I took a look at Adwords. Google has not charged me for one single > click today. That has never happened before. > > Can there really

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 link that won't pass an RFC2544 test at 500 Mbps

2018-01-15 Thread Chuck Macenski
You could try turning off inband mangement if you have not already done so. On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 11:27 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Same results for sequence errors either with or without flow control > enabled on the radios, and switch ports that connect to them. > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] Power supply for multiple 450ms

2018-01-15 Thread Sam Lambie
Meanwell SDR 48-120 work fine for 450i and 450 AP, but the Medusa is a whole other animal in terms of power. At idle, they take 46.3 watts each. On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 10:52 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Hey SamI remember you mentioned you purchased some industrial

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown
What are you using? Router NAT or a server or ? From: Steve Jones Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 11:48 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again Im not going to lie, we are natting at 1:300 across a handful of publics and have little to no issue, though we really should

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread Steve Jones
ccr1072 On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 12:59 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > What are you using? Router NAT or a server or ? > > *From:* Steve Jones > *Sent:* Monday, January 15, 2018 11:48 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again > > Im not going to lie, we are

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread Steve Jones
we had a contractor tell me there is a way to do that. I cant speak as to how he intended on doing it. hes from a cisco shop, so maybe he just assumed it would be the same. We wanted it because of geographically separate bgp routers but never went that far since our upstream bandwidth is too

Re: [AFMUG] LACP or what for non symetric throughput

2018-01-15 Thread Mathew Howard
It looks like Mikrotik supports several different types of bonding, some of which appear to support asymmetrical links. I just started looking into this stuff myself, so I really don't know what I'm talking about... I'm currently just using OSPF to load balance a couple of links, and I'm trying to

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown
tnx From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 2:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again Thanks for the tip. I don't know why I didn't think to use the filter. I guess 1,000 or so subscribers equals 26,000 or so connections. That's good to know. In this

Re: [AFMUG] CCR1032 to CRS125 Fiber

2018-01-15 Thread George Skorup
https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/MikroTik_SFP_module_compatibility_table#SFP.2B_interface_compatibility_settings_with_1G_links On 1/15/2018 2:42 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: I've had CCR SFP+ ports not wanting to work with GigE SFP modules, but the same port works fine with 10G modules.  I know on

Re: [AFMUG] OT Holiday?

2018-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown
You know, those days when the irritating people are not around and you can get tons of work done... From: Steve Jones Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 2:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Holiday? whats a holiday? On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 3:34 PM, Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread Dennis Burgess
Mikrotik can do that, I have a router with 20k NAT rules natting two /21s to less than 254 ips .:) Dennis Burgess - Network Solution Engineer - Consultant MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant - MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE,

Re: [AFMUG] PC Out of Band management

2018-01-15 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Has Windows RDP been hacked? On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > everything has been hacked buddy, just some companies have the luxury of > better lawyers to hide that fact (hes right though, its bad juju to use > teamviewer if youre looking at it

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread Steve Jones
Im not going to lie, we are natting at 1:300 across a handful of publics and have little to no issue, though we really should since the customer router double NATs On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 12:39 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I need to have about /19 worth of customers natted to as

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 link that won't pass an RFC2544 test at 500 Mbps

2018-01-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I recall the AF team in the Chicago area running Exfo or JDSU RFC2544 tests on some of their test links, and getting them to pass. Have seen the same results with flow control turned on or off. Right now I can't turn off inband management because we will lose visibility into the far end of the

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread Mathew Howard
You can't get x86 Miktorik boxes that are will handle more. I think Linktechs and Balticnetworks both sell some decent ones (not built by Mikrotik, but they use hardware that's well tested with routerOS). On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 1:20 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Does MT have

Re: [AFMUG] LACP or what for non symetric throughput

2018-01-15 Thread Dennis Burgess
MT using OSPF is the proper method, LACP does not take into account loading, its jus a LAG group, and it will be 1:1. That’s it. OSPF you can acutallly load balance 3:1 or 6:1 etc, but the more connections the better the load balance. But that is the number of connections, not actual load but

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread Adam Moffett
I took him to mean subscribers when he said 8000 connections. As far as Layer4 connections we're performing NAT for, I'm not totally sure how to tell. If I torch the LTE PDN interface, it counts up for awhile and then freezes. Connection tracking is showing something like 120,000 items but that

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown
Yes, we have 6000 now and are adding about 1000 each year. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 1:47 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again I'm pretty sure he did mean 8000 subscribers... I would want one of the i7 x86 boxes for that kind of load, but I'd imagine

Re: [AFMUG] Power supply for multiple 450ms

2018-01-15 Thread Sam Lambie
Sean, That is for the CMM. I am looking to use 1 power supply for 4 radios. I actually have the factory power supplies for individual radios. But the cabinet that I am using is lacking in space. Hence trying to consolidate to one psu. On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 11:17 AM, Sean Heskett

Re: [AFMUG] PC Out of Band management

2018-01-15 Thread Steve Jones
yep not sure about current RDP versions, but if not, just a matter of time. I prefer the teamviewer interface, of all of them it gives the most real session feel, multiple displays, file access, printers, chinese guy verifying my data is secure. On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 12:48 PM, Kurt Fankhauser

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread Mathew Howard
I'm assuming not, but I think the Xbox does support IPv6 now, so if you're doing dual-stack, that would hopefully take care of that issue to some extent, anyway. I don't think that the xbox NAT issues are nearly as bad as they used to be anyway... I haven't heard from any of our customers

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown
What flavor of NAT does mikrotik implement? From: Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 12:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again Wonder how heavy we can load that... I would want it to be able to handle 8000 connections. From: Steve Jones Sent: Monday,

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread Dennis Burgess
MT does not do stateful failover ☹ sorry. Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread Dennis Burgess
Whatever you program it for ☺ Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread Dave
We have a PowerV4 router from linktechs and it rocks for our edge not doing a lot with a 10G circuit and most of the network  I really like its flexibility and Horsepower. On 01/15/2018 02:50 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Yes, we have 6000 now and are adding about 1000 each year. *From:* Mathew

Re: [AFMUG] LACP or what for non symetric throughput

2018-01-15 Thread Dennis Burgess
You do not define capacities, just load balancing metrics, such as 4:1 or 7:2 etc. L3 is always better right? L2 you can’t do 7:2 so, hence its better right! ☺ The radios should handle the bonding as well, as long as they are the same speed, if not, then they radios will do LACP but guess

Re: [AFMUG] Power supply for multiple 450ms

2018-01-15 Thread Steve Jones
the CMM PSU will do it no problem, and that cambium one at that wattage from what Ive priced is pretty good cost. The 600 dollar range is what ive seen On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 12:32 PM, Sam Lambie wrote: > Sean, > > That is for the CMM. I am looking to use 1 power supply

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown
Does MT have something larger? I would need two for redundancy. I presume use policy based routing sending all the 10.x.x.x source IP traffic to one of the two NAT boxes that will be set up for load sharing. Core would send everything else to the edge. Details details, I let the router

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread Mathew Howard
I'm pretty sure he did mean 8000 subscribers... I would want one of the i7 x86 boxes for that kind of load, but I'd imagine that would handle it without any problems. On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > I took him to mean subscribers when he said 8000

Re: [AFMUG] CCR1032 to CRS125 Fiber

2018-01-15 Thread Nate Burke
Thanks for the info, I think that might have been it. I'm pretty sure the CRS was on Auto negotiate. On 1/15/2018 3:21 PM, George Skorup wrote: https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/MikroTik_SFP_module_compatibility_table#SFP.2B_interface_compatibility_settings_with_1G_links On 1/15/2018 2:42 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] LACP or what for non symetric throughput

2018-01-15 Thread Mathew Howard
How exactly do you set those metrics in OSPF? is there a way to control the ratio, other than by adjusting the interface cost? On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 3:29 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote: > You do not define capacities, just load balancing metrics, such as 4:1 or > 7:2 etc. >

[AFMUG] OT Holiday?

2018-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown
I was wondering why traffic was down to my e commerce site. Then I took a look at Adwords. Google has not charged me for one single click today. That has never happened before. Can there really be that many folks on holiday and not shopping for surge protectors and tower mounts today??

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread Dennis Burgess
That really depends on what you consider “non-service affecting” .. I would argue that as long as customers can get out and customers can get into their public IPs, a 10-30 seconds of them not getting out, is fine. Finding products that store connections etc, and continues a download during

Re: [AFMUG] PC Out of Band management

2018-01-15 Thread Jesse DuPont
This works great: http://a.co/iwiSKho (Lantronic Spider) Jesse DuPont Network Architect email:

Re: [AFMUG] Power supply for multiple 450ms

2018-01-15 Thread George Skorup
100W power supply? I assume they're budgeting for absolute worst case. Like 500' POE only and fiber? Maybe a Traco TSP600-148 to run all four? Or... Forrest showed the RackInjector with "Cambium Sync" cards powered via -48 (I assume some kind of telco rectifier). On 1/15/2018 11:22 AM, Sam

Re: [AFMUG] Power supply for multiple 450ms

2018-01-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
Hey SamI remember you mentioned you purchased some industrial power supplies while back..how did they work for you? Jaime Solorza On Jan 15, 2018 10:22 AM, "Sam Lambie" wrote: > Hey all, I am looking for a single power supply that can handle the load > for 4 - 450m's

Re: [AFMUG] VDSL2 DSLAM options

2018-01-15 Thread Sam Lambie
Great. Now, where to buy them? On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 10:56 AM, Rob Genovesi wrote: > Sam, > > Modems are syncing at ~100 Mbps DL and ~50 Mbps UL. We rate limit > with a Mikrotik at the head-end. Loop lengths are very short, under > 1kft. We use SmartRG modems

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread Steve Jones
filter by reply destination address and then by tcp state established is what i did On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > I took him to mean subscribers when he said 8000 connections. > As far as Layer4 connections we're performing NAT for, I'm not totally

Re: [AFMUG] CCR1032 to CRS125 Fiber

2018-01-15 Thread Adam Moffett
I've had CCR SFP+ ports not wanting to work with GigE SFP modules, but the same port works fine with 10G modules. I know on paper SFP+ is supposed to be backwards compatible, but I've had mixed results in real life. You might have to get an SFP+ module and let it negotiate at 1G. --

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown
Just need it to be: Totally automatic failover Non service affecting We will soon have either 100 Gig or 40 Gig to the world. So I am thinking whatever we use needs to be multiple units all running in parallel. From: Dennis Burgess Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 2:33 PM To:

[AFMUG] Exalt firmware

2018-01-15 Thread George Skorup
Looking for ExtendAir G2 release 1.2.2. Anybody have it?

Re: [AFMUG] VDSL2 DSLAM options

2018-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown
Hard to beat the SmartRG. -Original Message- From: Rob Genovesi Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 2:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VDSL2 DSLAM options Versa DSLAM we got off Amazon. I sent you my sales rep info for SmartRG. There are other vendors available for modems

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown
If they are smart enough to reboot a router or just keep trying for a few seconds and then can continue, that is non-service affecting. If our call center lights up with 200 calls, that is service affecting. From: Dennis Burgess Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 2:44 PM To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT Holiday?

2018-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown
Quite all right thank you... From: Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 2:45 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Holiday? Seems strange, I would think that most people that are buying your stuff would be working today. I could go to Google and find some ads to click on, if it would

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 link that won't pass an RFC2544 test at 500 Mbps

2018-01-15 Thread Darin Steffl
Siklu would be a better radio for this link. I don't recall anyone ever running that test on Airfiber radios from what I've read. On Jan 15, 2018 11:27 AM, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote: Same results for sequence errors either with or without flow control enabled on the radios,

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown
I need to have about /19 worth of customers natted to as few V4s as is needed to make it work properly. We currently have about 3 /21s I think. Don’t want to have to buy a fourth. From: Dennis Burgess Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 11:34 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown
I wonder if it would handle two boxes, sync them and have a nice stateful failover mechanism? From: Steve Jones Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 12:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again srcnat is what we use. 1800 connections right now from one section of the network

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread Dennis Burgess
You can have failover, just the connections will be broke aand they will have to be restarted. That’s it. Normally I don’t worry about that kind of stuff. Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant MikroTik Certified

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread Adam Moffett
Thanks for the tip. I don't know why I didn't think to use the filter. I guess 1,000 or so subscribers equals 26,000 or so connections. That's good to know. In this instance I have a private /21 NAT'd onto a public /28 with the ccr 1036 and have plenty of spare room on the CPU. Just an idea

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, personally, I'd split it between multiple boxes and do something like one /21 per box. It makes things a bit more complex, but it also means that if one of those boxes does happen to croak, you're only have to deal with a quarter of the subscribers going down instead of the whole works. On

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread Dennis Burgess
Note, the its 4 SFP not SPF+ there is a 2 port SFP+ version of the 1036. Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE For Wireless

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread Dennis Burgess
You can engineer around that as well. There are many things you can do with multiples of those types of units. Simple to do and failover can be easy if setup correctly. Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant MikroTik Certified

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread George Skorup
Dual-stack and CGN? You can get 8:1, 16:1 or even 32:1 out of a single public IPv4 address. Give 8 customers 8k ports each, or 16 customer 4k ports each, 32 customers 2k ports each. That's *source* ports, so they're not limited to 8k, 4k or 2k connections total. You have to look at in both

Re: [AFMUG] PC Out of Band management

2018-01-15 Thread Steve Jones
everything has been hacked buddy, just some companies have the luxury of better lawyers to hide that fact (hes right though, its bad juju to use teamviewer if youre looking at it from a best practices point of view) but this is a good scenario for virtualbox, two VMs from the host one VM for each

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
does CG-NAT work with the Xbox people? On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 1:39 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I need to have about /19 worth of customers natted to as few V4s as is > needed to make it work properly. > > We currently have about 3 /21s I think. Don’t want to have to buy a >

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown
Wonder how heavy we can load that... I would want it to be able to handle 8000 connections. From: Steve Jones Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 12:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again ccr1072 On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 12:59 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown
Too bad. I am kind of scared to not have some kind of hot standby or load sharing that will fail in a graceful manner. From: Dennis Burgess Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 12:28 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again MT does not do stateful failover L sorry.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Holiday?

2018-01-15 Thread Mathew Howard
Seems strange, I would think that most people that are buying your stuff would be working today. I could go to Google and find some ads to click on, if it would make you feel better... On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 3:34 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I was wondering why traffic was down

[AFMUG] Memphis

2018-01-15 Thread Robert
Any wireless providers thereabout? I have a customer that is looking for a secondary besides Comcast and says there are too many trees and it's too flat for any wireless providers down there... Thanks, robert

Re: [AFMUG] CCR1032 to CRS125 Fiber

2018-01-15 Thread Jason McKemie
I can verify that I still have some SIAE to CCR links that require disabling auto-negotiate to connect properly. Virus-free. www.avast.com

[AFMUG] 6Ghz ptp800 link

2018-01-15 Thread Dave
What would you pay for a ptp800 6Ghz link full keys? Easy to decomp or remove from location. --

Re: [AFMUG] OT Holiday?

2018-01-15 Thread Dennis Burgess
That would not be today! Lol . Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit

Re: [AFMUG] OT Holiday?

2018-01-15 Thread Mathew Howard
And you also don't get any mail... On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 3:51 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > You know, those days when the irritating people are not around and you can > get tons of work done... > > *From:* Steve Jones > *Sent:* Monday, January 15, 2018 2:49 PM > *To:*

Re: [AFMUG] OT Holiday?

2018-01-15 Thread Dave
Sooo,  thats what we call that day.. I always thought it was the 'Hold my beer watch this' Day. On 01/15/2018 03:51 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: You know, those days when the irritating people are not around and you can get tons of work done... *From:* Steve Jones *Sent:* Monday, January 15, 2018

Re: [AFMUG] Colo on Verizon owned Tower

2018-01-15 Thread Mike Hammett
They all own some of their own towers. Also, AT and Verizon a few weeks ago announced they were going to start building their own (in cooperation with each other) again. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original

Re: [AFMUG] Colo on Verizon owned Tower

2018-01-15 Thread Lewis Bergman
How many towers they own is dependant on their cash position and capital requirements. They alternately build their own, then sell them, then build more. They know that a tower is as good a place to park cash as any. On Mon, Jan 15, 2018, 7:35 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > They all

Re: [AFMUG] Colo on Verizon owned Tower

2018-01-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
Money trees!!! Jaime Solorza On Jan 15, 2018 7:53 PM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > How many towers they own is dependant on their cash position and capital > requirements. They alternately build their own, then sell them, then build > more. They know that a tower is as

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again

2018-01-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Not unless it's also doing uPNP somehow. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Kurt Fankhauser" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 12:45:46 PM

Re: [AFMUG] Power supply for multiple 450ms

2018-01-15 Thread Sean Heskett
use that power supply with either the CMM5 or one of the packetflux devices. On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 11:32 AM, Sam Lambie wrote: > Sean, > > That is for the CMM. I am looking to use 1 power supply for 4 radios. I > actually have the factory power supplies for individual

[AFMUG] Colo on Verizon owned Tower

2018-01-15 Thread TJ Trout
I noticed one of my competitors service trucks inside of the fence of one of Verizon's owned sites. Does anyone have contact info on how you obtain a lease from them? Just to clarify this is not a CCI or ATC Tower. Thanks!!

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