Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box

I'm working on a similar project. Still looking for hardware for the vMX BNG but the basic outline is: vMX running as a BNG on ? hardware. DHCP, DNS server running on a slice on the same server. Possibly also a fall over Freeradius instance with some default accept behavior. We run accounts

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;> to me. I wasn’t sure he was really listening to my bitching but it started >> working later in the day. So I guess he asked someone to look at it. I >> think I still have that matchbook with his number in it... >> >> *From:* Dennis Burgess >> *Sent:* Monday, Febru

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t. I > think I still have that matchbook with his number in it... > > *From:* Dennis Burgess > *Sent:* Monday, February 12, 2018 3:35 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box > > > I would not state that 8.8.8.8 or any of the public DNS servers out there

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es at a time. I need to move off and get my own servers on a VM soon. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 2:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box If 8.8.8.8 isn't available to the closest node as a local netwo

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> > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Sterling Jacobson > *Sent:* Monday, February 12, 2018 3:10 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box > > > > I think that was me you asked about those three items. > > > >

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working later in the day. So I guess he asked someone to look at it. I think I still have that matchbook with his number in it... From: Dennis Burgess Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 3:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box I would not state that 8.8.8.8 or any

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PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box I think that was me you asked about those three items. AND we still use 8.8.8.8 DNS resolvers. I know, it’s bad, but one of my upstreams is directly on Google CDN so it ‘applies’. I do like redundancy though. So if you use one CCR, get

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2018 3:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box I think that was me you asked about those three items. AND we still use 8.8.8.8 DNS resolvers. I know, it’s bad, but one of my upstreams is directly on Google CDN so it ‘applies’. I do like redundancy though. So if you use one CCR, get

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geler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 4:04:58 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box It will work fine. Use a 2nd diverse as well... Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. On Feb 12, 2018, at 3:02 PM, Chuck McCown < ch..

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It will work fine. Use a 2nd diverse as well... Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Feb 12, 2018, at 3:02 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > Guess I don’t need DNS. 8.8.8.8 seems cheap and easy... > > From: Chuck McCown > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 12:59 PM > To:

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of the highway. From: Dave Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 2:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box CCR I think would do the trick but I would have 2 for fail over Or I would do a PowerV4 from linktechs with failover ccr1236 Let the mikrotiks handle your nat and DHCP DNS I

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CCR I think would do the trick but I would have 2 for fail over Or I would do a PowerV4 from linktechs with failover ccr1236 Let the mikrotiks handle your nat and DHCP DNS I would do on a x86 box On 02/12/2018 01:59 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Had a subdivision developer contact me, wanting service

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*chuckles* see? i do read a lot of what you post, even if i don't always reply... :) - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box *waves* - Mike Hammett Intelligent

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*waves* - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 3:31:15 PM Subject: Re: [AFM

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hahah...told ya - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box Don't do that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers

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oh god. don't let Mike Hammett or about half of the people on facebook hear you say that LOL Hi Mike! - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box Guess I don’t need DNS. 8.8.8.8

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tp://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ---------- > *From: *"Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net> > *To: *af@afmug.com >

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covered box are the switches. From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 2:09 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box I think that was me you asked about those three items. AND we still use 8.8.8.8 DNS resolvers. I know, it’s bad, but one of my upstreams

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File Save Save as file From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 2:09 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box I think that was me you asked about those three items. AND we still use 8.8.8.8 DNS resolvers. I know, it’s bad, but one of my upstreams is directly

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To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 3:09:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box I think that was me you asked about those three items. AND we still use 8.8.8.8 DNS resolvers. I know, it’s bad, but one of my upstreams is directly on Google CDN so it ‘applies’. I do like r

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in there on a separate managed network to keep track of power and heat/temp and track the switches/CPE’s etc. That’s about it. Rinse, repeat. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 1:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP

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It is. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 2:49:02 PM Subject: Re: [AFM

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It was observed in the past that using OpenDNS or GoogleDNS you could get slower performance from CDN's. I can't swear that's still a thing. 4)Do I really care where the DNS is geographically?

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se trailers to convert into a splicing > trailer. > > > > *From:* Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Monday, February 12, 2018 1:28 PM > *To:* af > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box > > A CCR could certainly do DHCP and NAT... I seem to remember there being > some reason t

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onday, February 12, 2018 2:39:54 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box OK to answer a handful of questions from this thread. 1) This turf is a long way away from all my other stuff, so I don’t want to actually build a building over there. Nice to get in out of the rain when you are doing ons

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Yep, simple, we can sell them everything they need if needed. We have outdoor boxes, switches, you name it. ☺ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 2:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box Only issue I know

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I would too, but it is too far away from any NOC I can use. From: Josh Baird Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 1:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box Transport may still be an option depending on the price. I'd much rather treat this as another POP and manage these types

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Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 1:28 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box A CCR could certainly do DHCP and NAT... I seem to remember there being some reason that made using Mikrotik for a DNS server a bad idea, but it would be capable of doing that too. It doesn't take much to run a DNS

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wrote: > No, it isn’t. Many miles away. > > *From:* Josh Baird > *Sent:* Monday, February 12, 2018 1:03 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box > > Is this in your service area? Could you just get transport/backhaul back > to your NOC and provide all of

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that I'm not aware of. -- Original Message -- From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> To: "af" <af@afmug.com> Sent: 2/12/2018 3:28:39 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box A CCR could certainly do DHCP and NAT... I seem to remember there being some

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No, it isn’t. Many miles away. From: Josh Baird Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 1:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box Is this in your service area? Could you just get transport/backhaul back to your NOC and provide all of these services there? On Mon, Feb 12, 2018

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Mikrotik is like a swiss army knife. It does all those things, but it's weaker at all of them than the proper tool is. It would absolutely work though. -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/12/2018 2:59:22 PM Subject: [AFMUG] ISP in a

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A CCR could certainly do DHCP and NAT... I seem to remember there being some reason that made using Mikrotik for a DNS server a bad idea, but it would be capable of doing that too. It doesn't take much to run a DNS server, so it might not be a bad idea to stick some kind of a little server in

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I think the big one is you can get CDN servers near wherever 8.8.8.8 lives instead of ones near where you really are. -- Original Message -- From: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/12/2018 3:05:10 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box I

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powercode is ideal for this, just FYI (i dont know about fiber stuffs) On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 2:05 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > I can't even begin to enumerate why this is wrong and you will regret it > later. I'm sure others will go into more detail why. If you don't run a

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I can't even begin to enumerate why this is wrong and you will regret it later. I'm sure others will go into more detail why. If you don't run a pair of geographically distributed recursive caching resolvers for DIA/IP customers, it is in my opinion not a real ISP. On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 12:02

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Don't do that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 2:02:05 PM Subject: Re: [AFM

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Is this in your service area? Could you just get transport/backhaul back to your NOC and provide all of these services there? On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 2:59 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Had a subdivision developer contact me, wanting service for their hundred > or so homes. > I can

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I would do it with one x86-64 server running xen or KVM on a recent Linux distribution, and then various VMs for services like recursive DNS resolver, dhcp daemon, etc. 1GbE link with vlan trunk and tagged traffic to the CCR would be sufficient. You do plan on giving the residential customers a

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Guess I don’t need DNS. 8.8.8.8 seems cheap and easy... From: Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 12:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] ISP in a box Had a subdivision developer contact me, wanting service for their hundred or so homes. I can get DIA close to the area at a