Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-08-21 Thread Youness Alaoui
Removed: - Make sure that the 'has webcam' capability is enabled if the user didn't disable the webcam in farsight. - Try to figure out why webcam session does not work sometimes, are the ffenc_h263 'rtp-payload-size' and the rtph263pay 'modea-only' element properties set correctly? can we

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-08-20 Thread Youness Alaoui
Removed: - Verify/fix tkvideo because it can't load/capture webcam after gstreamer gets loaded Full TODO: - Add big/bold/red warnings on the assistant pages : This conference is *ONLY* for the [trans webcam/voiceclips/av] feature - Make sure that the 'has webcam' capability is enabled if the user

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-08-17 Thread Youness Alaoui
Removed: - Add farsight binaries for windows (added in SVN) - bugfix as much as possible from the forums TODO list (no more time, useless to keep in the TODO at this point) Changed: - Improve the default skin by removing the background, the group boxes and adding a proper hangup_mini pixmap

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-08-17 Thread Youness Alaoui
Removed: - Finish VoIP assistant settings for webcam - Make the audio/video call actually use the a/v settings setup in the assistant... - Add a proper hangup_mini pixmap Added: - Verify/fix tkvideo because it can't load/capture webcam after gstreamer gets loaded - Add big/bold/red warnings on the

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-08-10 Thread Youness Alaoui
Changed: - Fix VoIP UI iinto - Finish VoIP assistant settings for webcam Changed: - commit Saphire 2 info - Improve the default skin by removing the background, the group boxes and adding a proper hangup_mini pixmap Added: - Add farsight binaries for windows Removed: - Add farsight binaries

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-06-25 Thread Gustavo A . Díaz
Yes, that button is fine now :) By the way, 22px is a good size for th button, cause other way will look to small... is what i think. Maybe 16px is better... but wil be hard to distinguish in some pixmaps. 2009/6/25 Youness Alaoui kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net Yes Gus, the images are there,

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-06-25 Thread Boris billiob Faure
And for the moment, we hard code the 22px size. On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 16:22, Gustavo A. Díazgustavo.d...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that button is fine now :) By the way, 22px is a good size for th button, cause other way will look to small... is what i think. Maybe 16px is better... but wil be

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-06-24 Thread Boris billiob Faure
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 01:28, Gustavo A. Díazgustavo.d...@gmail.com wrote: OK, About the VoIP images... exist in this new skin, i dont know why you dont see it... and i told you the other day in the IRC about the sizes... so, i've tested and i see the new pixmaps, just does not fit well

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-06-24 Thread Boris billiob Faure
your code is not up to date. On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 19:14, Gustavo A. Díazgustavo.d...@gmail.com wrote: I would like first before asking me to check if those are 22px wide, which already have that size... :) 2009/6/24 Boris billiob Faure bill...@gmail.com On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 01:28,

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-06-24 Thread Gustavo A . Díaz
What code? I am talking about the pixmaps for voipcontrol on chatWindow next to DPs... In this new skin all those are 22px... 2009/6/24 Boris billiob Faure bill...@gmail.com your code is not up to date. On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 19:14, Gustavo A. Díazgustavo.d...@gmail.com wrote: I would

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-06-24 Thread Boris billiob Faure
It's about your screenshot, it should work fine now. On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 22:39, Gustavo A. Díazgustavo.d...@gmail.com wrote: What code? I am talking about the pixmaps for voipcontrol on chatWindow next to DPs... In this new skin all those are 22px... 2009/6/24 Boris billiob Faure

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-06-24 Thread Youness Alaoui
Yes Gus, the images are there, but they don't fit and they look completely out of context.. the sizes are not correct either. That's what I meant.. I'll look at the buthangup_mini issue you said, but last I checked, it was working fine. On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Boris billiob Faure

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-06-23 Thread Gustavo A . Díaz
OK, About the VoIP images... exist in this new skin, i dont know why you dont see it... and i told you the other day in the IRC about the sizes... so, i've tested and i see the new pixmaps, just does not fit well cause of the sizes, which is not skin problem. Here a screenshot of this:

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-06-22 Thread Youness Alaoui
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Gustavo A. Díaz gustavo.d...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Well, i think i've finished the Sapphire 2.5 Skin. I didnt have time to finish my own set of smiles, which has more the look of the skin than the current made from Ubitux, but is ok, those are nice. cool! Yes,

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-06-22 Thread Youness Alaoui
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Youness Alaoui kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net wrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Gustavo A. Díaz gustavo.d...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Well, i think i've finished the Sapphire 2.5 Skin. I didnt have time to finish my own set of smiles, which has more

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-06-21 Thread Gustavo A . Díaz
Hi, Well, i think i've finished the Sapphire 2.5 Skin. I didnt have time to finish my own set of smiles, which has more the look of the skin than the current made from Ubitux, but is ok, those are nice. I think no images is missing, except of grouptopback_dark.png, grouptopback_light.png and the

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-06-12 Thread Gustavo A . Díaz
I will see what i can do. Btw, i didnt get the 2 point... what do you mean? As i said in the IRC, i've replaced 90% of group images by empty images and just using 3 of them just for the group name bg... so, you said that this can be replaced for a gradient? Anyways, when i did that i saw much more

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-06-12 Thread Gustavo A . Díaz
Lets see if i understand... you want me to use the group bg of my new skin to the actual default skin? Which means that the skin for 0.98 will be the same as 0.97 is? Btw, the buthangup_mini.png is the same as the actual button? or only is the icon of the button? 2009/6/12 Youness Alaoui

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-06-11 Thread Montblanc
Hello everybody, I saw adding missing pixmaps to minimal skin was in todo list and I checked the recent updates on amsn-extras. There are still some pixmaps missing (SkinColor, aMSN Plus and Inkdraw buttons) so I decided to do the job. I took Dark Matter 4 ones and modified them according to

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-06-11 Thread Youness Alaoui
Thanks MontBlanc, but we (or I?) actually decided not to continue with the minimalskin.. the only advantage of minimal skin is that it doesn't have the boxes around groups, which are the cpu consuming ones... but now with the svn, the skin can disable box drawing by a skin option, so doing that

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO (Montblanc)

2009-04-18 Thread Gianfranco Costamagna
...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO To: Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN     amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID:     bcfb6ac10904081222p3f8177bare3a20e3585a2b...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 A pretty much coherent TODO. I hope

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO (Montblanc)

2009-04-18 Thread Montblanc
Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO To: Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN     amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID:     bcfb6ac10904081222p3f8177bare3a20e3585a2b...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 A pretty much coherent TODO. I hope

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO (Montblanc)

2009-04-18 Thread Boris billiob Faure
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:22:52 +0200 From: Montblanc toto...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO To: Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN     amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID:     bcfb6ac10904081222p3f8177bare3a20e3585a2b...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-04-08 Thread Youness Alaoui
it's time to have a look at our TODO.. I (still) want to release 0.98 as soon as possible... On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 6:52 AM, Youness Alaoui kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net wrote: 0.98 TODO: - Add missing pixmaps to minimal skin and make sure tab flickering is visible well, we ended up

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-04-08 Thread Montblanc
A pretty much coherent TODO. I hope to finish working on langit before 0.98. Montblanc 2009/4/8 Youness Alaoui kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net: it's time to have a look at our TODO.. I (still) want to release 0.98 as soon as possible... On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 6:52 AM, Youness Alaoui

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-04-08 Thread Youness Alaoui
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Boris billiob Faure bill...@gmail.comwrote: About the VoIP UI, i need someone to make the skin pixmaps. [::skin::loadPixmap buthangup] - this one must be done, i'd prefer a new skin image to be done. this one should be different from the one in the chat window

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-01-31 Thread square87
DONE: - Make ListChoose draw in a canvas 0.98 TODO: - Add missing pixmaps to minimal skin and make sure tab flickering is visible - Fix MSNP2P stuff that broke with WLM 2009 - Finish VoIP UI - Make webcam work for BSD systems - Add farsight binaries for mac. - Improve the default skin somehow..

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-01-31 Thread Youness Alaoui
ADDED: - Make ListChoose draw in a canvas this is how it looks for me : http://kakaroto.homelinux.net/~kakaroto/amsn/listchoose.jpg so it's not done yet :p (and btw, delete original message when updating the release TODO, thx) 0.98 TODO: - Add missing pixmaps to minimal skin and make sure tab

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-01-31 Thread square87
ok thanks for reporting i was working with the detailed view... and i forgot to test without. Now it should work Square87 2009/1/31 Youness Alaoui kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net ADDED: - Make ListChoose draw in a canvas this is how it looks for me :

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-01-30 Thread Youness Alaoui
Added : - Improve the default skin somehow Basically what is/will be discussed/decided in the 'Skin Improvements' thread... 0.98 TODO: - Add missing pixmaps to minimal skin and make sure tab flickering is visible - Fix MSNP2P stuff that broke with WLM 2009 - Finish VoIP UI - Make ListChoose draw

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-01-30 Thread Youness Alaoui
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 05:58:16PM +0200, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote: DONE: - Apply patch from PEACEYALL's thread (kkrt did it but apparently forgot to update the TODO) Actually I lost my connection for a few hours, so... Anyways, the Make webcam work for BSD systems should also be fixed, but

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-01-29 Thread Gustavo A . Díaz
Hi, Once I've posted in the ML about including the new version of Sapphire Skin if you want Is almost finished, and I finishing to design the hole set of smiles that integrates better with the skin style (since the current set of smiles are not mine...). Examples:

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-01-29 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
DONE: - Apply patch from PEACEYALL's thread (kkrt did it but apparently forgot to update the TODO) - Small annoyance: when a CW gets opened because they nudge you, you don't see their DP ::ChatWindow::MakeFor had the usr_name as a separate argument than the chatid, in case it's a group

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-01-29 Thread Tom Hennigan
ADDED: - Add farsight binaries for mac. I need to either fix the DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH issues, or create an installer package for OS X users (if DYLD_.. issue cannot be resolved). Because otherwise we need to do some really messy relinking, which wasn't possible for all libs last time. 0.98

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-01-28 Thread square87
- I have a bug with background text and i am going to work on it - then i have to test somethings on CW - and i want to draw ListChoose in canvas (actually i am using rendercontact and it takes 6 seconds to show about 500 contacts) * Square87* 2009/1/28 Vivia Nikolaidou vi...@ee.auth.gr DONE:

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-01-28 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
This thing is getting quite long after all... Added: - Apply patch from PEACEYALL's thread - N810: Bind menu button to show right click menu Square87's stuff: - I have a bug with background text and i am going to work on it - then i have to test somethings on CW - and i want to draw ListChoose

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-01-28 Thread square87
*0.98 TODO:* - Add missing pixmaps to minimal skin and make sure tab flickering is visible - Fix MSNP2P stuff that broke with WLM 2009 - Option to integrate webcam in the chatwindow (needed for maemo) - Finish VoIP UI - Small annoyance: when a CW gets opened because they nudge you, you don't see

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-01-28 Thread Mirko Hansen
I've got two points for the TODO: 1. Concerning the portability of profiles: If you copy the directory of a profile to the amsn home directory and forget to insert the new profile into the profiles file, the config.xml of the new profile gets overwritten when you enter the address manually. It

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-01-28 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
(I answered Mirko's mail, scroll down) Added: - Check whether a newly created profile's config.xml exists (someone copied the directory but didn't add it to profiles) 0.98 TODO: - Add missing pixmaps to minimal skin and make sure tab flickering is  visible - Fix MSNP2P stuff that broke

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-01-28 Thread Mirko Hansen
2009/1/28 Vivia Nikolaidou vi...@ee.auth.gr 2. Proposal concerning the auto update function: Shouldn't we extend the auto update to be able to update files of the core? (Not for major releases, only for minor updates!) I think it would be a good thing as there are many protocol changes

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-01-28 Thread Youness Alaoui
ok hi, first, I'd like to explain our 'TODO' mail system.. it's a system we've been using for previous releases and since some of you are new to the team, you might not know how it works... It's simple, we give a list of TODO items by mail, when you want to add or remove an item, you simply write

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-01-28 Thread Youness Alaoui
ADDED: - Make webcam work for BSD systems Apparently on BSD, although the port makes sure the capture extension is built.. we seem to be using [OnLinux] everywhere in the code, which makes it not able to detect which extension to use, how to capture etc... 0.98 TODO: - Add missing pixmaps to

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-01-28 Thread Youness Alaoui
So.. as you can notice here.. I add a simple description.. and then paste the whole TODO under it, this way we don't loose some TODO items because someone forgot to repaste the whole list, etc... Also notice that I removed Square's stuff, this shouldn't be in the list, the list should only

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-01-28 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
DONE: - Option to integrate webcam in the chatwindow (needed for maemo) A few resizing issues remaining, will be fixed together with voip gui 0.98 TODO: - Add missing pixmaps to minimal skin and make sure tab flickering is visible - Fix MSNP2P stuff that broke with WLM 2009 - Finish VoIP UI -

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-01-28 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
DONE: - N810: Bind menu button to show right click menu Not quite. Menu button called ::tk::FirstMenu which bugged so I substituted it with an empty proc, and made ctrl+click fire Button3 events if we're on maemo. 0.98 TODO: - Add missing pixmaps to minimal skin and make sure tab flickering

[Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-01-27 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
Time to start this :) - Add missing pixmaps to minimal skin and make sure tab flickering is visible - Fix MSNP2P stuff that broke with WLM 2009 - Option to integrate webcam in the chatwindow (needed for maemo) - Finish VoIP UI - Small annoyance: when a CW gets opened because they nudge you, you

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-01-27 Thread Youness Alaoui
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Vivia Nikolaidou vi...@ee.auth.gr wrote: Time to start this :) - Add missing pixmaps to minimal skin and make sure tab flickering is visible - Fix MSNP2P stuff that broke with WLM 2009 - Option to integrate webcam in the chatwindow (needed for maemo) -

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2009-01-27 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
DONE: - Make block/unblock work when using the byrdr server 0.98 TODO: - Add missing pixmaps to minimal skin and make sure tab flickering is visible - Fix MSNP2P stuff that broke with WLM 2009 - Option to integrate webcam in the chatwindow (needed for maemo)

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-06-03 Thread Philippe Valembois - Phil
Hey ! Could you please stop with all these useless speaking ? I am totally lost now... Anyway, all of that is silly because before creating the DL manager we MUST rewrite all the CW and we haven't do anydiscussion about it... Using TkHTML or not ? How should we design internals ? How many snits

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-06-03 Thread Youness Alaoui
lol, true, but I'm not afraid about the rewrite of the CW :p It's just Tom I think who asked the question and we started discussing it. If you want, we can also start an endless discussion about the CW :) KKRT On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 03:33:56PM +0200, Philippe Valembois - Phil wrote: Hey !

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-06-02 Thread NoWhereMan
- Original Message - From: Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO I didn't understand what you meant :p but the 'do not show

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-06-02 Thread Youness Alaoui
- From: Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO I didn't understand what you meant :p but the 'do not show this dialog anymore

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-06-02 Thread NoWhereMan
Youness Alaoui wrote: Ok, I see, the hide the mini infobar (I call it like that for the bar in the CW) when FT managr is opened, I think it would be confusing, no ? how do you feel about it with that extension you're using ? when FTman is open (and active) no infobar is shown Anyways, the

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-06-02 Thread Youness Alaoui
On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 08:11:38PM +0200, NoWhereMan wrote: Youness Alaoui wrote: Ok, I see, the hide the mini infobar (I call it like that for the bar in the CW) when FT managr is opened, I think it would be confusing, no ? how do you feel about it with that extension you're using ?

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-06-01 Thread Philippe Valembois - Phil
Just got an idea about the chatwindow bar that could display FTs of a contact : to avoid it to be too huge, we could make the several files switching over the time... For example, I DL a file, it is displayed in the bar, I download another file, it is displayed on the bar in place of the old

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-06-01 Thread Youness Alaoui
it's a good idea, but I wouldn't make it cycle every 30 seconds, I would prefer it to cycle constantly (animated) like a banner but cycling through the top, and if you hover the mouse on it, it stops cycling. 30 seconds is too long I think, 5 seconds could be too long, or could be too fast...

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-06-01 Thread capricious . falcon
That seems a bit yukky in terms of usability...I dunno... I was thinking maybe of another sidebar to the right of the DPs, which you could hide with a little arrow button... On 01/06/07, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's a good idea, but I wouldn't make it cycle every 30 seconds, I

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-31 Thread Philippe Valembois - Phil
Heey, so much speaking without me :'( Are you crazy to flood my mailbox like that ? Anyway, IMO, putting FTs in CL is a really bad idea as I think that many people don't look at it when they are in a speaking with someone so EVEN if HIG would say that I would be totally against. By the way, HIG as

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-31 Thread Karel Demeyer
2007/5/31, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Heey, so much speaking without me :'( Are you crazy to flood my mailbox like that ? Anyway, IMO, putting FTs in CL is a really bad idea as I think that many people don't look at it when they are in a speaking with someone so EVEN if HIG

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-31 Thread Philippe Valembois - Phil
I didn't want to speak about long time histories but more about pending FTs... Those we display with the accept link : having it in the same list could be great IMO... Phil Karel Demeyer a écrit : 2007/5/31, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Heey, so much speaking without me :'(

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-31 Thread Karel Demeyer
Yeah, I know what you want, and I applaud it. but because some ppl here think we need a manager to find files further in history (the case youness described of having 20 files sent), I proposed to put this in the history. Karel. 2007/5/31, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I didn't

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-31 Thread NoWhereMan
Youness Alaoui wrote: ok, so for your taste, you would get the FT manager the first time you get a file transfer, then you will click on it's 'settings' button and choose 'do not show when a file transfer is started', then you would only get the infobar, and no manager... makes sense ?

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-31 Thread Youness Alaoui
that would be s non intuitive.. talking about usability... :p I think it would be confusing if it was the *only* way. I wouldn't mind it being there, on the contrary, it's a good idea to have that in the history log, but I think that if a user wants to find oldFTs he shouldn't have to open

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-31 Thread Youness Alaoui
I didn't understand what you meant :p but the 'do not show this dialog anymore', I don't like.. I prefer the setting of show always, show background, never... and the hide/cancel.. you wouldn't 'hide' a download, in a download manager, you remove a download once finished, if you remove it

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-31 Thread Youness Alaoui
I know that I kind of flooded the list with all the mails (it's still better than one huge mail, right ?) But anyone can comment on the three reasons I gave below as to whether or not a DM should be created ? On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 12:31:16AM -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote: Yes, but I still

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-31 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
I don't remember who mentioned it, but it would be nice to have one line in the CW showing FT progress (maybe make the filename clickable so clicking it would open the file?), and have a way to click it and open the FT manager in case a user is downloading many files at once... However, the

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-31 Thread Tom Hennigan
Personally I'm all for another window for fts. I think this is the best way because: - It's intuitive for new users. - It's consistent with other applications. Having it in the chat window as well would be a nice convenience, but I think (personally) it would be better to have it all in a

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-31 Thread Youness Alaoui
well.. that's exactly what we are talking about no? :| I mean, you just listed what I suggested. I can't see anything different, that's the download manager I'm refering to here... On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 12:00:39AM +0300, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote: I don't remember who mentioned it, but it

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-30 Thread Karel Demeyer
Hi all, (first paragraph is to youness:) Long mails are very discouraging (is this english ?), especially if they start with I fully disagree with Karel.. Further on, after reading your mail (I read it!), I found out you don't disagree for 100% with what I said... so I was asking myself if you

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-30 Thread Karel Demeyer
talking about long mails :p (I say it before you do) 2007/5/30, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, (first paragraph is to youness:) Long mails are very discouraging (is this english ?), especially if they start with I fully disagree with Karel.. Further on, after reading your mail

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-30 Thread Youness Alaoui
On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 05:30:09PM +0200, Karel Demeyer wrote: Hi all, (first paragraph is to youness:) Long mails are very discouraging (is this english ?), especially if they start with I fully disagree with Karel.. Further on, after reading your mail (I read it!), I found out you don't

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-30 Thread Youness Alaoui
lol, yeah, too fast, but I wasn't going to say it, although I thought about it :p KKRT On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 05:30:55PM +0200, Karel Demeyer wrote: talking about long mails :p (I say it before you do) 2007/5/30, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, (first paragraph is to

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-30 Thread NoWhereMan
Karel Demeyer wrote: * I think (you not I guess) an ordinary (a)MSN user watches the status of an FT while in a chat with that specific user. To see how much longer it will take before he can end the conversation for example. That's why I think it should at all time be possible to have a

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-30 Thread Harry Vennik
Op 30-mei-2007, om 19:19 heeft NoWhereMan het volgende geschreven: Karel Demeyer wrote: * I think (you not I guess) an ordinary (a)MSN user watches the status of an FT while in a chat with that specific user. To see how much longer it will take before he can end the conversation for

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-30 Thread NoWhereMan
Harry Vennik wrote: Btw. keep in mind that closing a CW should not stop any FT. So, there should be another way of opening the FT window than only through clicking an FT in a CW. Also when a conversation with the same contact is openend again, while the FT is still going on, that FT should

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-30 Thread Karel Demeyer
Idem dito... if you don't want the FT to stop, keep the chatwin open. It's not because it's technically possible we need to use this as a feature (having it possible to close CW's and keeping the FT open). What's the plus ? Notifying the user the FT will be closed upon closing the CW is a must

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-30 Thread NoWhereMan
Karel Demeyer wrote: Again, I'd like the question(s) to rise: Do we really need an FT manager? Isn't this a bit over-engineering ? Is it needed for an IM program where file transfers are a nice feature but not the main activity ? Do you think our users will transfer so many files at once

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-30 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Wed, 30 May 2007, Karel Demeyer wrote: Again, I'd like the question(s) to rise: Do we really need an FT manager? Isn't this a bit over-engineering ? Is it needed for an IM program where file transfers are a nice feature but not the main activity ? Do you think our users will transfer so

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-30 Thread capricious . falcon
I liked karel's idea of having it under the dp, but that might get too cluttered. Above the status bar would work fine for me... or anywhere in the CW really :) On 30/05/07, Vivia Nikolaidou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2007, Karel Demeyer wrote: Again, I'd like the question(s) to

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-30 Thread Youness Alaoui
ok, as promised, I've read it, and I'm asking now.. although I really need to go to bed :( On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 05:30:09PM +0200, Karel Demeyer wrote: Hi all, (first paragraph is to youness:) Long mails are very discouraging (is this english ?), especially if they start with I fully

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-30 Thread Youness Alaoui
ok, so for your taste, you would get the FT manager the first time you get a file transfer, then you will click on it's 'settings' button and choose 'do not show when a file transfer is started', then you would only get the infobar, and no manager... makes sense ? KKRT On Wed, May 30, 2007

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-30 Thread Youness Alaoui
that's the point of the brainstorming :) On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 09:53:38PM +0200, NoWhereMan wrote: Karel Demeyer wrote: Again, I'd like the question(s) to rise: Do we really need an FT manager? Isn't this a bit over-engineering ? Is it needed for an IM program where file transfers are

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread capricious . falcon
Is there any chance of a 'download manager' being added to the TODO? Cause I'd be wiling to work on that :) Tom On 11/05/07, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'll start this new thread about the 0.98 TODO. It is still very small now, and I hope it will get expanded with time. The

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread capricious . falcon
I mean FT Manager of course... On 28/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any chance of a 'download manager' being added to the TODO? Cause I'd be wiling to work on that :) Tom On 11/05/07, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'll start this new thread about

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread Philippe Valembois - Phil
That was intended to come with total rewrite of the new ChatWindow : so yes it is planned ;) Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : I mean FT Manager of course... On 28/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any chance

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread Harry Vennik
I think this is a very good idea. Would be better than 1 window per FT. An alternative would be, to integrate the progress indication for FT into the chat window. (a progressbar etc. in the notification message that an FT invitation was sent). Op 28-mei-2007, om 11:25 heeft [EMAIL

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread Harry Vennik
Ow, hehe this one came in while I was typing my other message... But nice it's planned :-) Op 28-mei-2007, om 12:35 heeft Philippe Valembois - Phil het volgende geschreven: That was intended to come with total rewrite of the new ChatWindow : so yes it is planned ;) Phil [EMAIL

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread Philippe Valembois - Phil
Nooo ! ;) This idea from MSN is really bad : we always lost our FTs when we are in a deep conversation with someone. The FT Manager let us to see exactly what we have donloaded and so on... Phil Harry Vennik a écrit : I think this is a very good idea. Would be better than 1 window per FT. An

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread Karel Demeyer
Idd. From a usability standpoint, I think it would be best to have all downloads in 1 FTmanager 'window', to avoid clutter and to make it overseeable. But I think it would be even better to embed this 'window' in the main amsn window to avoid clutter. In the caht window we could have a text

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread Philippe Valembois - Phil
I would have thought about a FTManager tab in the Chat Window... Simple to make and better to see all your transfers for every Chat Putting this in Main window is silly IMO as you can't start a FT from here... Phil Karel Demeyer a écrit : Idd. From a usability standpoint, I think it would be

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread Karel Demeyer
So in a seperate window for non-tabbed-window users and in what tabbed window for ppl who use tabs per group ? Or only have the ft's of the chats of a specific container in the FT tab of that container ? So an FT tab per container ? You can 't start FT's from that FT tab either, don't you ?

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread capricious . falcon
I agree with Karel - we should have a tab in the main window. That way, if/when we have tabbed CLs for multiple logins then it can be just another tab on the end..? Or maybe different... On 28/05/07, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So in a seperate window for non-tabbed-window users and

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread Karel Demeyer
A tab in the main window ? I'm sure most ppl would want to see their contactlist all time while chatting. If this is true, it makes it again mpossible to chat and watch the status of the FT at the same time. Also, I dislike the idea of tabs for multiple account. All contacts of all account

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread Harry Vennik
Hmm, I don't see the point of putting the FT manager in the CL Window, it has simply nothing to do with the CL. I'd say we'd either embed it in the chat as I suggested (but Phil rejected that already), or have a separate FT manager window, just to have all FT's in one window, and to keep

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread tonighx
multiple logins in one window? I don't understand that I use multiple logins when I have friens at home that want to connect. each login is completely indepent :-s apart this IMO a separate FT window is much better than all other proposed solutions 2007/5/28, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread Karel Demeyer
That's a whole other story. I was talking about having more then 1 account in an aMSN profile. Having multiple profiles would still be possible this way. Othjer profiles should have their own window, not a tab on teh window of the other profile so you can have 1 amsn profile on a workspace and

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread Harry Vennik
Op 28-mei-2007, om 15:30 heeft Karel Demeyer het volgende geschreven: 2007/5/28, Harry Vennik [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hmm, I don't see the point of putting the FT manager in the CL Window, it has simply nothing to do with the CL. The main window is not only about the CL, it's about aMSN on

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread Philippe Valembois - Phil
I dislike the separated Window and Main Window for FT because like Karel I don't like to search 100 years for a window but I often only keep my chat window open... The most logical would be to have FTs near the chat window of the bound contact so I would say a FT tab for each container and for

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread Tom Hennigan
I like the idea of a firefox style download manager. (In a separate window). This way the CL isn't too cluttered. Maybe we could have an option to show active FTs in the CL and double clicking an FT in the CL would bring up the download manager window (selecting the chosen transfer).. but

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread Youness Alaoui
that's indeed a whole other story, and totally off topic here. We're far from implementing multi accounts in one process so no need to waste time discussing this On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 03:32:08PM +0200, Karel Demeyer wrote: That's a whole other story. I was talking about having more then 1

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