Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Hi, I am having a difficult time trying toread this record ...

2019-05-05 Thread bsei2816
I see the year as 1766 Bill Seidler On Sunday, May 5, 2019 at 6:50:59 PM UTC-7, Mara wrote: > > Hi Lisa, > > > > The marriage date for Joao Carvalho and Maria Rosa is April 14 1763. > > > > I have these families both lines are my ancestors. PM me if you’re > looking for more information.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for grandparents birthplace, Azores; Traveling to Sao Miguel this week

2019-05-04 Thread bsei2816
Yes I did it exactly as Cheri said. Through this list she and others have taught many, including me. Six years ago it all looked like scribble to me and I had to completely rely on list members. This is an outstanding site. On Saturday, May 4, 2019 at 9:09:11 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: > >

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for grandparents birthplace, Azores; Traveling to Sao Miguel this week

2019-05-04 Thread bsei2816
I just realized there was no Aub in 1989 so the baptism date is probably 28 Aug 1898 On Saturday, May 4, 2019 at 5:13:27 PM UTC-7, bsei...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hello Annie, > > I believe this is your grandmother's baptism that took place 28 Aub 1989 > in Arrifes (#202 on the right side): > >

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for grandparents birthplace, Azores; Traveling to Sao Miguel this week

2019-05-04 Thread bsei2816
Hello Annie, I believe this is your grandmother's baptism that took place 28 Aub 1989 in Arrifes (#202 on the right side): http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-B-1890-1899/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-B-1890-1899_item1/P1149.html Birthdate: 21 Aug 1898 Father: João de

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for grandparents birthplace, Azores; Traveling to Sao Miguel this week

2019-05-04 Thread bsei2816
Here is their passaporte listing, #291 at the bottom. It looks like a husband, wife, and two kids (Ermalinda and Margarida), then three additional family members too old to be their kids. The same seven people in the same order are on the manifest for the SS Commonwealth departing Ponta

[AZORES-Genealogy] 1682 Marriage Porto Judeu Terceira Francisco Martins to Marta Ferreira

2019-05-03 Thread bsei2816
I feel like I had to guess at a lot of this so just hoping for confirmation or correction. It starts a quarter way down on the right side. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-PORTOJUDEU-C-1672-1726/TER-AH-PORTOJUDEU-C-1672-1726_item1/P14.html 12 Oct 1682, Igreja Santo

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pedro Miguel, Faial. (da Terra, Andre y Faria)

2019-04-28 Thread bsei2816
I see: Gp.ar da Terra ...bel da Sylva, sua mulher. I would say Gaspar da Terra and Isabel da Silva, his wife. Bill Seidler On Sunday, April 28, 2019 at 4:13:15 PM UTC-7, Sam (Camas, WA) wrote: > >

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Antão and Maria, twins of Antonio Machado Neto, Porto Judeu, Terceira 1714

2019-04-17 Thread bsei2816
Thanks JR; and you are right about this being homem and not Homem. I ran acrros one of his kid's baptism and he is simply Jacinto Borges. On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 10:28:21 PM UTC-7, JR wrote: > > I agree, onze it is. > > JR > > On Thursday, April 18, 2019 at 1:19:36 AM UTC-4,

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Antão and Maria, twins of Antonio Machado Neto, Porto Judeu, Terceira 1714

2019-04-17 Thread bsei2816
I finally found this couple's child that is my 5th GGmother. Was she born on the first birthday of her older sibling twins or do all dates now look like 11 January to me?

[AZORES-Genealogy] Antão and Maria, twins of Antonio Machado Neto, Porto Judeu, Terceira 1714

2019-04-17 Thread bsei2816
I found these twins born to my 6th Great Grandparents and hoping someone can help me understand. What I see is Antão and Maria, filhos of Alferes Antonio Machado Neto and his wife Maria Clara, born on 11 January 1714. Antão was baptized at home on 11 Jan because he was in peril. Maria was

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation help - Graciosa - Marriage - 1742 - Joao da Sylva filho de Antonio da Sylva e de Maria de VasConCellos

2019-04-03 Thread bsei2816
Hello Bill There seems to be a page or scans (13v and 14) missing. This is casamento #50 and the next page has what I assume is the last part of Casamento #52 before #53 starts. Looking at the last page of the index (image 115), it seems the end of 50, all of 51, and the beginning of 52 are

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Baptismal Record of Mariana Arruda

2019-04-01 Thread bsei2816
It looks to me like she was born 30 May 1885 and baptized on the 31st. Children are only baptized with one name so I don't see a middle name. There are actually three margin notes that were all written on 18 Jan 1969 (the second note actually says 18 Feb 1969): 1. Married Antonio Luiz de

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Side note help (Sao Pedro, Santa Maria) Joao s of Ricardo Joaquim y Maria Umbelina

2019-04-01 Thread bsei2816
I believe it says: O individuo a que se refere este registo faleceu nesta freguesia ao 26 de Outobro de 1957. Vila do Porto, 26 (or 20) de Outobro de 1981. Roughly: He died in this freguesia on 26 Oct 1957. Bill Seidler On Monday, April 1, 2019 at 2:29:27 PM UTC-7, Sam Koester wrote: > > Can

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with birth & baptism date

2019-03-28 Thread bsei2816
Enlarging and darkening Pedro's last name I see what looks like Rod**ig***. I think it might be Rodrigues. Bill On Thursday, March 28, 2019 at 9:45:23 PM UTC-7, bsei...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi Leonor, > > I don't think is says "...quatro digo doze.." I think it says "quatro > dias do mez

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with birth & baptism date

2019-03-28 Thread bsei2816
Hi Leonor, I don't think is says "...quatro digo doze.." I think it says "quatro dias do mez de..." It then goes on to say baptism was on 12 of the same month and year. ("Doze" is not very clear but I think I see it) Padrinho is Pedro as you said but there is an ink blot where his last name

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Andrade - Santa Maria

2019-03-28 Thread bsei2816
I'm not familiar with a parish call Candeias, but I found this web site that says it is another name for NS da Purificação in Santo Espirito so I would try there. https://www.wickedlocal.com/article/20120116/News/301169671 Bill Seidler On Thursday, March 28, 2019 at 4:34:19 PM UTC-7, Sam

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with godfather's name

2019-03-27 Thread bsei2816
After reviewing Cheri's post, I made a slight change to my suggestion (in red) On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 8:17:34 PM UTC-7, bsei...@gmail.com wrote: > > I have never seen the name Lixandre before this record, but now I think > I've seen it twice. > > It looks to me like Sebastião

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Correction: Antonio Joze de QUADROS; 1818-1891; Sao Jorge, Rosais

2019-03-27 Thread bsei2816
Hello Donna The parents are correct I believe they all say his father is José Teixeira de Quadros. If you look closely at the obit, what looks like the tail of a g in Figueira is actually the loop in the S from São João from the line below that connects to the I in Teixeira. The T in

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with godfather's name

2019-03-27 Thread bsei2816
I have never seen the name Lixandre before this record, but now I think I've seen it twice. It looks to me like Sebastião Lixandre, filho familias de Sebastião Lixandre and Maria Lianor. I am nowhere near certainty--this record is tough. Bill Seidler On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 8:06:19

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Surnames: Barros vs Bairos (Vila do Porto,Santa Maria)

2019-03-25 Thread bsei2816
Hi Sam, I read it the same as you do: Barros for the father and Bairos for the grandfather. It must be a mistake; in the parents' casamento "Bairos" is written for both groom and father. .

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Rosais, Sao Jorge, Jose Teixeira de Quadros, 1789-1875

2019-03-25 Thread bsei2816
I believe the baptism you found is the one you are looking for. I see it as Jose, son of Joam Teixeira de Quadros and Maria do Rosario. He would have turned 90 3 months before he died and the priest said 89 years old more or less. Joam and João are the same name (Portuguese equivalent to

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading baptism of Maria de Viveiros Aguiar

2019-03-24 Thread bsei2816
Tough to read, but this is what I am getting: Maria, daughter of Francisco de Aguiar, natural of the parochial church of NS da Conceição, in Mosteiros; and of Antonia de (Viveiros is my guess), natural of this parish. Born on the first day of October of 1755 and baptized in this parish of her

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Apolinario Teixeira Brasil com Barbara da Conceição, Manadas São Jorge, 1732

2019-03-24 Thread bsei2816
Thank you Margaret...I was never even close. Bill On Sunday, March 24, 2019 at 4:36:00 PM UTC-7, Mara wrote: > > Groom is correct, Apollinar [Apolinario] > > Mother: Maria de Siqueira > > All else correct. > > > > Take care, > > m > > > > > > *From: *bsei...@gmail.com > *Sent: *March 24,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Age of Padrinho

2019-03-24 Thread bsei2816
Thanks to all. Great explanation Rick--I appreciate it. Bill On Sunday, March 24, 2019 at 4:01:33 PM UTC-7, Richard Frances Pimentel wrote: > > *The Catholic Church requires the God Parent to be a practicing Catholic > who has received the Sacrament of Confirmation. The Bishop having >

[AZORES-Genealogy] Apolinario Teixeira Brasil com Barbara da Conceição, Manadas São Jorge, 1732

2019-03-24 Thread bsei2816
Please help with the name of the groom's mother. What I see is: 29 Sep 1732, Parish of Santa Barbara, Manadas Groom: Apolinar (Apolinario?) Teixeira Brasil, son of Antonio Teixeira Brasil and Maria de ??? (Can't make this out) Bride: Barbara da Conceição daughter of Domingos Dias da Rosa and

[AZORES-Genealogy] Age of Padrinho

2019-03-24 Thread bsei2816
Is there a minimum age for a Padrinho. The record shows the padrinho is the son of the baptized baby's father (the baby's half-brother). http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-MANADAS-B-1844-1860/SJR-VL-MANADAS-B-1844-1860_item1/P83.html I just found this boy's baptism

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Official Alfaiate (Official Tailor)?

2019-03-22 Thread bsei2816
I think in this case "official" is better translated as journeyman or craftsman than as an equivalent to the English word "official". Oficina means workshop. Bill On Friday, March 22, 2019 at 11:02:03 AM UTC-7, Leonor Bertoni wrote: > I can't speak on your record but my mother was a

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sidenote, Sao Pedro, Santa Maria

2019-03-21 Thread bsei2816
Hi Sam. Maria do Espirito Santo. Manuel de Moura is natural of Assumção and they married in São Pedro (Assumção and São Pedro are two different parishes). You have the rest correct.\ Bill Seidler On Thursday, March 21, 2019 at 6:49:43 PM UTC-7, Sam Koester wrote: > > >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antonio Alves Brasil and Rosa Maria, Manadas, Sao Jorge Marriage note about 1766

2019-03-21 Thread bsei2816
Thank you very much Margaret. I was almost there but the note was so different from most records I was really unsure. I have subsequently found the marriage of the Rosa Maria de Piedade you mentioned. It was in 1808 the same year as the note so likely was the catalyst for the

[AZORES-Genealogy] Antonio Alves Brasil and Rosa Maria, Manadas, Sao Jorge Marriage note about 1766

2019-03-21 Thread bsei2816
I would really like to understand what this is about (left side) but I really don't get it. This page seems to have been inserted here and is some kind of explanation or justification rather than a marriage record. It looks like it is dated 22 Jan 1808, but the records around it are 1766.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Paternal Grandfather's name

2019-03-20 Thread bsei2816
I cannot make that out to be any name I am familiar with. I did find the parents marriage and the name looks the same but I still don't recognize any name I know. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1880-1889/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1880-1889_item1/P436.html

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with sidenote again - Please

2019-03-19 Thread bsei2816
I think it is Margarida Natalia Branco, age 19, natural of Livramento, Ponta Delgada, daughter of Antonio Branco Custodio and Francisca de Jesus. Not 100% sure but it's my best guess. Bill Seidler On Tuesday, March 19, 2019 at 4:19:52 PM UTC-7, Sam Koester wrote: > Sorry, I can’t either.

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: #33 name

2019-03-18 Thread bsei2816
The child is unnamed and in imminent danger. The word is Um Parvulo, which translates as a child, innocent. Bill Seidler On Monday, March 18, 2019 at 2:46:30 PM UTC-7, Lizmig wrote: > > >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manadas Sao Jorge marriage and baptism in1786: need another set of eyes

2019-03-18 Thread bsei2816
Thank you Sam. You are right; I inadvertently dropped the Antonio. Margaret thanks for the confirmation. Bill On Monday, March 18, 2019 at 8:18:16 AM UTC-7, Sam Koester wrote: > > Margaret; I see Antonio in front of that Joao Agueda??? > > > > Sam (Mazatlán, MX) > > > > *From: *Margaret

[AZORES-Genealogy] Manadas Sao Jorge marriage and baptism in 1786: need another set of eyes

2019-03-17 Thread bsei2816
I see this marriage on 9 Jan 1786 Groom: Manuel Machado Teixeira, son of André Teixeira da Silveira (? e Lemos) and his wife Margarida de Jesus Bride: Rosa Machado de Azevedo, daughter of José (or João) (de Aguada) and his wife Maria do Rosario, both deceased.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mello 1909-2003 Azores

2019-03-17 Thread bsei2816
This marriage did not take place in the Azores. It was on Madeira, parish of Espirito Santo, Vila da Calheta, concelho of Calheta on 10 Feb 1890. groom: Manuel Gonçalves Morte, 26 years old, single, farm worker, natural of Prazeres in this same concelho where he was baptized; son of Manuel

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Simiao Joaquim de AGUIAR 1870s Brazil from Azores

2019-03-17 Thread bsei2816
On the page for the link you provided there is a link to browse the film. Click that and navigate to image 405. It is the record of this marriage very clear and legible. It says your bride's parents are from Madeira in "Santa Anna" parish. A search of the Madeira archives at

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Assistance - Graciosa - Pedro do Conde Sodre

2019-03-17 Thread bsei2816
I noticed a Pedro Conde de Sodré in a family tree on familysearch.org whose wife was Catharina Antunes de Miranda. It says that he was born Abt. 1605 and she Abt. 1610 and that they married Abt. 1630. That would be 98 years before the marriage you posted. Since CCA is down I couldn't try to

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Assistance - Graciosa - Pedro do Conde Sodre

2019-03-16 Thread bsei2816
I think Pedro's wife is D. Barbara de Mello. Specifically what I see is ...e D. Agada--DIGO--D. Barbara de Mello. (He initially wrote Agada, then corrected himself to Barbara) You translated the date of birth: 10 Sep 1728. It later says he was baptized in this parish of NS da Guadalupe on

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with baptism of Maria, Manadas Sao Jorge, 1854

2019-03-13 Thread bsei2816
Thanks again Margaret. I think I understand bur the word choice seems odd. I'm just throwing that out there. Bill On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 5:55:32 AM UTC-7, Mara wrote: > viuvo, q mepedio lhe lansase neste termo por sua filha > > [que me pediu lhe lançasse .] > > Margaret >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco Jose Cordeiro

2019-03-12 Thread bsei2816
Wow! Cheri there is so much information in your answer but presented so well that even I can get it. Thank you so much. I actually did an archive search and found that Matt's nephew joined this group before I did and posted this in May 2012: *Francis Joseph was born in 1833, some where in

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco Jose Cordeiro

2019-03-12 Thread bsei2816
Thank you Cheri; I sent an email with my wife's kit# and the names of the matches of interest. I also sent an email to ask if they are registered in the Azores DNA project. I understand that I cannot prove they are the same person. All I can do is attempt to disprove it. I have accounted

[AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco Jose Cordeiro

2019-03-12 Thread bsei2816
This is just a shot in the dark looking for any help. My wife has a close DNA match in New Zealand. He is the grandson of Francis Joseph. A mariner that jumped ship in New Zealand in the 1860s, reported that he was widowed when he married in New Zealand in the 1880s, was from the Azores and

[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with baptism of Maria, Manadas Sao Jorge, 1854

2019-03-11 Thread bsei2816
Maria was born to a single mother and a widow. I would like to know the words after the father's name that I assume is his admitting to being the father. Starts on line 4 with "viuvo…" and ends next line I believe with"...sua filha ??, fregueses…" (bottom right)

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism of Antonio Espinola, Praia, Graciosa, 1831

2019-03-11 Thread bsei2816
Thank you Maragret. On Monday, March 11, 2019 at 4:56:15 PM UTC-7, Mara wrote: > > Bil, > > > > It’s the letter ‘D’ for Dona; as in D. Catharina [Catarina] > > > > Margaret > > > > *From: *bsei...@gmail.com > *Sent: *March 11, 2019 7:28 PM > *To: *Azores Genealogy > *Subject:

[AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism of Antonio Espinola, Praia, Graciosa, 1831

2019-03-11 Thread bsei2816
Please help with parents' names for Antonio, bottom left. I see Rafael Spinola (Espinola) and his wife ? Catharina (what is that before Catharina?). I see that they live in Fonte do Mato, which is in this parish and after that is the birthdate of 28 Apr 1731.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sidenote Help. Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto,Santa Maria

2019-03-10 Thread bsei2816
No here it is...really, *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1890-1899/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1890-1899_item1/P20.html* On Saturday,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sidenote Help. Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto,Santa Maria

2019-03-09 Thread bsei2816
Here is that groom's baptism which confirms his father's name as Manuel Ignacio (Inacio) de Moura. Bill On Saturday, March 9, 2019 at 5:57:54 PM UTC-8, Sam Koester wrote: > > Thanks Bill. It really helps to get a second or third opinion. I got > most of it right!  > > > > Sam (Mazatlán,

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sidenote Help. Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria

2019-03-09 Thread bsei2816
The first side note gives her name as Maria Rosa de Moura and say she married Antonio de Moura ; I think the date is 9 Feb 1920. It says he is son of Manuel (Inacio is my best guess) de Moura and Jacinta Julia dos Santos. The second not gives her name as Maria de Morais Moura and says she

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Surname help ????eiro, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria

2019-03-03 Thread bsei2816
Hi Sam Looks like Angela may have really come through for you. Did you notice that your Maria do Rosario was born in Ponta Delgada, (parish of Sao Pedro). The Joao Sousa Palheiro Angela's post refers to was from Ponta Delgada as well. I think it says the parents on this baptism were married

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with maternal grandfather’s name

2019-02-28 Thread bsei2816
Yes I get the frustration. I have at lease two feminine ancestors that started using different devotional names. I think this is likely the case here that she became known Maria da Trinidade instead of Maria do Rosario. More baptisms of their children might help sort it out. Bill On

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with maternal grandfather’s name

2019-02-28 Thread bsei2816
He is simply Manuel Pacheco on his daughter's marriage with no mention of that puzzling word. It also shows that he is natural of São Pedro parish in Vila Franca. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1870-1879/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1870-1879_item1/P251.html Manuel

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joâo Borges and Anna da Cunha (early 17th century)

2019-02-27 Thread bsei2816
My apologies. Apparently the index show two instances of a Miguel da Cunha marrying an Isabel Lucas in Lajes in less than a year. This one was in 1682. Both are difficult to read.

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sidenote help. Sao Pedro, Santa Maria (Resendes)

2019-02-27 Thread bsei2816
He married in this concehlho on 28 Sep to Fernanda da Conceição Rezendes, 24 years of age, single, daughter of Manuel Rezendes and Valentina Lucianna. Note dated 28-9-1930. Bill Seidler On Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 4:12:14 PM UTC-8, Sam Koester wrote: > > This is a birth record for

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joâo Borges and Anna da Cunha (early 17th century)

2019-02-27 Thread bsei2816
According to the Terceira Marriage index they were married in 1681. This link should be their marriage starting at the bottom and continuing on the next page. It is very damaged and hard to read but I can make enough out to believe it is the correct one.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Index - Joao Vieira - Sao Roque

2019-02-25 Thread bsei2816
Thank you Margaret. I've pasted your response here where I am sure you intended to post it. >From Margaret: Hello, one and all. For all its worth “do Rocio” is NOT indicative of a Surname. It is indicating a place. i.e. ‘[do lugar] do Rocio [Rossio] ” that’s what he’s saying. A

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pico Index - Joao Vieira - Sao Roque

2019-02-25 Thread bsei2816
I still think Agueda's baptism has the father as Joao Vieira "do Rocio" as the indexer wrote. I am not the most knowledgeable on Portuguese names--but "do Rocio" makes no sense to me and I can't think of what else it might be. CITCEM has both of these Joao you reference as "Joao Vieira

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pico Index - Joao Vieira - Sao Roque

2019-02-24 Thread bsei2816
Fawn, The index you posted is for a baptism, but the record you posted is a marriage. Here is the baptism the index entry you posted references: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-B-1622-1670/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-B-1622-1670_item1/P40.html I think the indexer

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sidenote help please, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria

2019-02-24 Thread bsei2816
Hello Sam. You are right on all three. What the first note says after the groom's name is that he was single, 33 years old, and son of José Ricardo and Maria José do Rego and is natural of São Pedro (this parish) Bill Seidler On Sunday, February 24, 2019 at 4:59:20 PM UTC-8, Sam Koester

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maira, Vila do Porto, Sao Pedro; side note help

2019-02-24 Thread bsei2816
Further info: The marriage was on 1 May 1937 (maybe 1939 instead?) and the bride was 27 years old. The death on the previous page was 19 June 1975 (possibly Julho instead of Junho?). Bill Seidler On Sunday, February 24, 2019 at 9:35:05 AM UTC-8, Ângela Loura wrote: > > José Monteiro Tavares

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Marriage Record Help

2019-02-21 Thread bsei2816
It would be helpful to point out the record you want. Mariana de Mello who married Joam da Costa on the left is daughter of Francisco da Souza, deceased; and his wife Iria de Mello. All are from this same Matriz. Mariana da Souza who married Bento da Costa on the right is daughter of Symão

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pedro Miguel, Faial, Help reading marriage Tome Furtado y Quiteria Maria de Trindade

2019-02-21 Thread bsei2816
This is tough. I used the FastStone editor that Angela Loura kindly shared with the group some time ago to darken it a bit. I see 5 Feb 1759 Thome (Tome) Furtado, son of Felipe? Furtado and his wife Isabel da Faria (Ja Defuntos?--I think both parents are deceased) marrying Quiteria (I can't

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is the mother of Maria, #1, Libana or Sibana Soares de Figueiredo?

2019-02-18 Thread bsei2816
Hi Sam, I believe it is Libana (I've not seen this but Libania is a name I am familiar with) I see a small terminal loop before the next letter starts that is not present on any of the capital S instances on the record; but is present on the name Lucrecia in the record on the next page. On

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with John Manteiga

2019-02-17 Thread bsei2816
Hi Leonor, I found this page that list deaths of Bates alumni. It lists a John S. Manteiga [class of] 1958 and lists a death date of 22 Jul 2005. *https://www.bates.edu/magazine/back-issues/y2006/summer06/deaths/*

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with side note: Manoel, s of Jose Joaquim de Moura and Jacintha Umbelina, Santa Maria

2019-02-16 Thread bsei2816
I once again give my vote of confidence to Cheri. I see that he married on 27 April 1928 and agree that she was 27 years old and with all the names Cheri provided. It seems that his missed attempts to cross Ts results in dotted vowels after the Ts (see vinTE seTE, mil nove cenTOS, vinTE

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] One more please

2019-02-10 Thread bsei2816
Sam, He didn't die on 29 Oct 1983--his wife did. You already had that as a side note on her baptism that you posted yesterday. Note 3 is about his death on 19 Nov 1987. Bill Seidler -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Side notes help, Sao Pedro, Santa Maria

2019-02-09 Thread bsei2816
Yes I think Angela has it. I think her second father-in-law has the same name as her paternal grandfather: Antonio Soares Coelho (her paternal grandmother is Maria Jacinta while her mother-in-law is Maria Jose Soares) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Side notes help, Sao Pedro, Santa Maria

2019-02-09 Thread bsei2816
Is this it: *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906_item1/P7.html* If so, here is my take: Note

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Side notes help, Sao Pedro, Santa Maria

2019-02-09 Thread bsei2816
Sam, I don't see the link. Bill Seidler > Virus-free. www.avast.com > > > <#5c5f763f.1c69fb81.2c912.9759SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@gmr-mx.google.com_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Maria-baptism - top of left hand page (#33)

2019-02-08 Thread bsei2816
Hi Linda, I'll take a shot at the first two questions. I hope this helps. I was wondering what it says after Our Lady of the Rosary (godmother). I > see the word "creanca" - child, and Jose Silveira de Brum, married. Just > wondering what else it said in that sentence. > ...para madrinha

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism - Manuel - son of Joaquim de Sousa Bettencourt

2019-02-07 Thread bsei2816
After the godfather, which as Sam said is Antonio Homem da Costa (who is single), it is mostly the normal church script as Cheri said. I think the confusing part is that they did not name a godmother. Instead it says that for Madrinha they invoked Nossa Senhora touching the crown of the

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help

2019-01-29 Thread bsei2816
I'm afraid I don't see Maia. I think the father is from Vila Franca. I see o pai natural desta villa e a mãe natural da Ponta ??? (I believe JR is correct, I'm just having a hard time to make what I see to say "Garça". It does say they are residents of Ribeira Sequa (Seca) which as JR and

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help Joaquim Jose de Bittencourt e Laureana Antonia 1782 Marriage

2019-01-24 Thread bsei2816
Hello Sandra, I agree with Cheri on the groom's father. I think the Groom's mother is Dona Thomásia Josepha Bittencourt, and you have her birth parish correct (NS Conceição). I agree with Cheri on the bride's mother and with the rest of your findings except the date. I see 20 Oct instead of

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help Jose Rodrigues Coelho e Benedicta Mariana 1764 Marriage

2019-01-24 Thread bsei2816
Hello Sandra, I hope this is helpful; it really tested my limits. 9 July 1764, in the morning in the parish of S. Roque dos Altares, in my presence and of the witnesses present, Vicente Borges and Matheus Coelho,... without discovering any impediments to become man and wife (then some

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco Lourenceo 1758 Altares Terceria marriage help

2019-01-11 Thread bsei2816
I think it is Francisco Lourenço filho de Miguel Ferreira, auzente (ausente) e sua mulher Maria do Espirito Santo (?ditto Miguel Fra.???) It looks like the father's name is repeated after the mother's name--I don't know why. The bride looks like Antonia Maria, filha de Francisco Cardoso e sua

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Alves Berberea 1736 Biscoitos marriage

2019-01-11 Thread bsei2816
Hello Sandra. Yes; he and Bras da Sylva were both witnesses and member of this parish. They both signed (or had someone sign) the record. I am assuming that witnesses (testemunhas) is abbreviated as "tes.tas" Also, I see the date as the 14th rather than the 4th. Hope this helps. Bill

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with margin note: Baptism, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria

2019-01-10 Thread bsei2816
I agree with Cheri but believe the name is João José de Andrade. Bill Seidler > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism of Augusto, Rabo de Peixe, S. Miguel 1875

2019-01-04 Thread bsei2816
I hadn't come across this name Libano before. Thank you Cheri and JR. Bill > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism of Augusto, Rabo de Peixe, S. Miguel 1875

2019-01-04 Thread bsei2816
Oops!...here is the link. The record is bottom right continuing to the next page. *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1875-1879/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1875-1879_item1/P47.html*

[AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism of Augusto, Rabo de Peixe, S. Miguel 1875

2019-01-03 Thread bsei2816
I need some help with this very faint record. I believe the baptism date is 24 Sep 1875 and that he was born at 3am the same day; line 8: dia supra indicado (= date indicated above?) Also would like to confirm that the maternal grandparents are Manuel da Souza ???(name or occupation?) and

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record

2019-01-03 Thread bsei2816
22 October 1876 is the baptism date. Birthday is 15 of the same month. > >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Margin note in Ribeira Quente, Sao Miguel island

2018-12-25 Thread bsei2816
Hello Cheri, That clearly seems to say 1981 that they married, even though the note was written in 1968, the groom died in 1963, and the Rosa herself died in 1971 (I think). It is equally clear that this must be wrong. I would guess the actual year of marriage to be either 1918 or 1921.

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help reading this marriage record.

2018-12-21 Thread bsei2816
Hi Doreen, It says "filho do outro d' mesmo nome" (son of another of the same name), so the groom's father was Joao Rodrigues Monteiro, deceased. It also says both newlyweds are parishioners and were baptized in the same parish stated above (so Fontinhas). I expect it is the same Maria

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Centro de Conhecimento dos Açores - Registos Paroquiais

2018-11-25 Thread bsei2816
She was the legitimate daughter of Manuel Silveira Cardosa and Genoveva da Conceição, both native of this parish. She left no will nor left children. The way I read it she did not have kids. Bill Seidler > >

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: DNA Testing MyHeritage Transfer

2018-11-15 Thread bsei2816
I had previously tested with FTDNA and 23andMe. FTDNA had me 0% Iberia and 23andMe had me as 42% Iberian. I just transferred my FTDNA data to MyHeritage and they estimate my Iberian to be 40% (based on the same data that FTDNA had at 0% Iberia) I am 50% Azorean with two grandparents from the

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help reading Altares marriage record

2018-11-10 Thread bsei2816
I see the Faleiro (Faleira) now. I just couldn't figure out how Phillippe got the date with the page so damaged--but now I see it written in the margin. Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help reading Altares marriage record

2018-11-10 Thread bsei2816
Thanks Cheri...you are right that it is de Jesus. Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help reading Altares marriage record

2018-11-10 Thread bsei2816
Hi Doreen, What I see is Francisco Correia, son of Manuel Correia and Maria dos Anjos, native of São Roques, Altares marrying Teresa Antonia da Luz (it says Maria, DIGO Teresa Antonia ??).daughter of Maria ???, baptized in parish of Arcanjo São Miguel in Lajes. I can't make out a date and do

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Baptism record for Jose son of JoseCoelho Machado and Isabel de Jesus.

2018-09-09 Thread bsei2816
I thought you wanted Jose, son of Jose Coelho Machado and Isabel de Jesus which does not have margin note. The record with the margin note is for Jose, natural son of Catarina Ignacia, single. The margin note says Jose is legitimized by the marriage of Jose Lourenço Caetano and Catarina

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Baptism record for Jose son of Jose Coelho Machado and Isabel de Jesus.

2018-09-09 Thread bsei2816
Doreen, This is how I read it: Baptism: José on 1 July 1862 at São Roque dos Altares Date of birth: 3 June 1862 (or maybe 13 June; the line above interferes) Father: José Coelho Machado, laborer Mother: Isabel de Jesus, worker Both parents are naturals, were married in, and are

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1705 Marriage record of Manuel Martins(Alves)and Luzia Pereira (Parreira) de Rosario of Lajes, Terceria

2018-09-09 Thread bsei2816
Doreen, To support the baptism of Matias I provided, here is a what I believe to be his marriage (right side) *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SE-C-1754-1780/TER-AH-SE-C-1754-1780_item1/P80.html*

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1705 Marriage record of Manuel Martins (Alves)and Luzia Pereira (Parreira) de Rosario of Lajes, Terceria

2018-09-08 Thread bsei2816
Thanks Doreen. In case you need it, the baptism of Mathias Cardoso from Pico is here: *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-RIBEIRAS-B-1732-1749/PIC-LJ-RIBEIRAS-B-1732-1749_item1/P24.html*

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1705 Marriage record of Manuel Martins (Alves) and Luzia Pereira (Parreira) de Rosario of Lajes, Terceria

2018-09-08 Thread bsei2816
I just realized that not only descend from the groom's parents, but from the groom. I descend from the same couple you are asking about, Manuel Maritins and Luiza Pereira do Rosario through their daughter Maria da Resurreição married to Manuel Vieira. Bill Seidler -- You received this

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1705 Marriage record of Manuel Martins (Alves) and Luzia Pereira (Parreira) de Rosario of Lajes, Terceria

2018-09-08 Thread bsei2816
Hello Doreen, I see the date as 8/24/1705. Groom is Manuel Martins son of Simão Martins and Maria Pacheco from Porto Judeo. Bride is Luzia Pereira do Rosario daughter of Andre Faleiro (deceased) and Barbara da Costa from Lajes. If I am reading correctly the groom parents are my ancestors also

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading Altares Marriage of Joao MachadoToledo and Rosa Maria

2018-09-02 Thread bsei2816
Hello Doreen, I think Rosmarie is right about the bride's parents in the lower right record. However, that is the marriage of Manuel Francisco da Silva and Maria Isabel rather than the couple in your subject line. Your couple is the top left record and the bride's parents are not listed; she

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Assistance - Death Paschoal de Sousa Leal 25 July 1745(?)

2018-08-26 Thread bsei2816
Hello Tony, I can make out a little of it (I think), but not too much in the later part that I think is mostly about the burial. The main point I can make is the date of death is the 24th. "Digo" literally translates as "I say" but as used in this context it is "... what I meant to say

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searchable Azores church records on MyHeritage?

2018-08-12 Thread bsei2816
I joined my heritage a few months ago. They do have some Portuguese records that are indexed, but I do not believe any are from the Azores. In their catalog they list them as Portugal Births, 1570 - 1910; Portugal Marriages, 1670 - 1910; and Portugal Deaths, 1640 - 1910. I have not seen a

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Another Altares baptism were I need helpreading the relationship of the godparents to the child

2018-08-04 Thread bsei2816
Hi Doreen, I suspect the Francisco and Beatriz couple you have in your database is the correct couple (parents of the brother/sister godparents) and the priest simply made a mistake by repeating the godmother's name instead of her mother's. I do not find a Francisco Gonçalves Velho marrying a

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading this Altares Marriage record from 1825

2018-08-04 Thread bsei2816
Hi Doreen, I see the same names you do and I believe the bride's parents are Francisco Martins Diaz and Rosa da Trinidade. I wouldn't assume just yet that your database has a mistake. The priest may have mistakenly repeated the daughter's (the godmother of Narcisa) name "Maria do Espirito

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Another Altares baptism were I need help reading the relationship of the godparents to the child

2018-08-04 Thread bsei2816
It says the godparents Francisco Gonçalves Velho and his sister Maria do Espirito Santo; and thay they are children of Francisco Gonçalves Velho and his wife Maria do Espirito. It doesn't give their relationship to the baby. There is not Beatriz named. Bill Seidler On Saturday, August 4,

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