[BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-07 Thread svaksha
https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py, comes off as trying too hard to be cute. #EpicFail. svaksha ॥ स्वक्ष ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-07 Thread Vinayak Hegde
see this as trolling[1]. -- Vinayak 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29 On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 9:49 PM, svaksha svak...@gmail.com wrote: https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py, comes off as trying too hard to be cute. #EpicFail. svaksha ॥ स्वक्ष

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-07 Thread Annapoornima Koppad
Bangalore On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 9:49 PM, svaksha svak...@gmail.com wrote: https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py, comes off as trying too hard to be cute. #EpicFail. svaksha ॥ स्वक्ष ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-07 Thread svaksha
? This is hardly what one expects from a PSF member. I did not find anything derogatory in the code (that I checked). From, https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py/blob/master/__init__.py def get_purpose(): Return the purpose raise AmbiguousMissionError, Mission unclear I would normally

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-07 Thread steve
and shame ? Is'nt Anand Pillai a PSF member? This is hardly what one expects from a PSF member. I did not find anything derogatory in the code (that I checked). From, https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py/blob/master/__init__.py def get_purpose(): Return the purpose raise

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-07 Thread Sriram Narayanan
actions until he explains himself. I know that he does care about educating folks about Python and helping evangelize it. -- Ram On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 9:49 PM, svaksha svak...@gmail.com wrote: https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py, comes off as trying too hard to be cute. #EpicFail. svaksha

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-07 Thread Vinayak Hegde
have responded to this offlist but I see this as trolling[1]. -- Vinayak 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29 On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 9:49 PM, svaksha svak...@gmail.com wrote: https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py, comes off as trying too hard to be cute. #EpicFail

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-07 Thread svaksha
it on the PyLadies-BLR mailing list to which he is subscribed to. He never did. Infact, IIRC, he joined the mailing list on 02Sept**, the same day he commits to the ladies.py repo on Github. ** (Disclaimer: I'm one of the list admins and I cross-checked this now.) svaksha ॥ स्वक्ष

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-07 Thread svaksha
communication tool and dislike googlegroups even more. of PyLadies could explain it - just to educate all of us here and me in particlar. I hope Anu's email was explanation enough. My isnt_that_odd function of ladies.py was specifically written to bring this point. Happy to see it hit

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-07 Thread Srinivasa Rao
/pythonhacker/ladies.py, comes off as trying too hard to be cute. #EpicFail. svaksha ॥ स्वक्ष ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-07 Thread Pratham Gadre
Audrey, We would like to hear your thoughts on the antics pulled by Anand Pillai (member of PSF). ref: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/bangpypers/2013-September/thread.html Mails with the subject : https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py Most of us, don't like the way he is hiding behind

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-08 Thread svaksha
your (now deleted) ladies.py repo publicly as I felt you deserved a chance to explain yourself. However, your chillpill repo comes across as STFU, annoying enough that I forked it on github. I'm happy to delete it if you care to go first. svaksha ॥ स्वक्ष

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-07 Thread Anand B Pillai
. Most FOSS/open source projects/initiatives have a .org (organization) TLD. Pyladies is a .com website. I find it curious. Maybe the OP of this thread who is an active member of PyLadies could explain it - just to educate all of us here and me in particlar. My isnt_that_odd function of ladies.py

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-07 Thread Pratham Gadre
On Sat, Sep 07, 2013 at 11:50:03PM +0530, Anand B Pillai wrote: Dear all, +1. Btw, I founded and manage this list, but I see my actions deserve some explanation. As Sriram, said I do have a (somewhat extreme) sense of sarcastic and dry humour. I am also a PSF member from 2010 and also

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-08 Thread Pratham Gadre
On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Ramdas S ram...@gmail.com wrote: Anand is someone who has contributed immensely as a programmer, and as an evangelist to Python community. His humour may be distasteful, misogynist or whatever, but that are his personal views, and definitely not as IPSS

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-07 Thread Annapoornima Koppad
but I see this as trolling[1]. -- Vinayak 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29 On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 9:49 PM, svaksha svak...@gmail.com wrote: https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py, comes off as trying too hard to be cute. #EpicFail. svaksha ॥ स्वक्ष

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-08 Thread Palak Mathur
://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py Most of us, don't like the way he is hiding behind his style of sarcastic humor, but for fear of being called an outcast from the community, we don't have the guts to come out in the open. Being a member / moderator / owner of various e-groups (tech non-tech

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-08 Thread T S KAMATH
Gadre pratham.ga...@gmail.com wrote: Audrey, We would like to hear your thoughts on the antics pulled by Anand Pillai (member of PSF). ref: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/bangpypers/2013-September/thread.html Mails with the subject : https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py Most of us, don't

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-08 Thread ashish makani
...@gmail.com wrote: Audrey, We would like to hear your thoughts on the antics pulled by Anand Pillai (member of PSF). ref: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/bangpypers/2013-September/thread.html Mails with the subject : https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py Most of us, don't like

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-08 Thread Abdul Muneer
Pillai (member of PSF). ref: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/bangpypers/2013-September/thread.html Mails with the subject : https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py Most of us, don't like the way he is hiding behind his style of sarcastic humor, but for fear of being called an outcast from

Re: [BangPypers] Fwd: Fw: Fwd: https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-08 Thread CsquaredinOmaha
Python Users Group - India bangpypers@python.org Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 1:38 PM Subject: [BangPypers] Fwd: Fw: Fwd: https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py Chris, STOP emailing me offlist. I made it very clear earlier that I didnt want to have any private conversations and have said

[BangPypers] Fwd: Fw: Fwd: https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-08 Thread svaksha
...@yahoo.com Date: Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 6:32 PM Subject: Fw: [BangPypers] Fwd: https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py To: svak...@gmail.com svak...@gmail.com Svaksah, This was intended to be sent to you directly, not to the group list. My rule is praise in public, criticize in private. But I

Re: [BangPypers] Fwd: https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-08 Thread CsquaredinOmaha
/pythonhacker/ladies.py Chris, was it easier to troll in private than on the public Bangpypers mailing list? If you're reduced to ad hominem and that too in private off-list messages, you're pretty clearly out of anything remotely relevant to say. svaksha ॥ स्वक्ष -- Forwarded message

Re: [BangPypers] Fwd: https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-08 Thread CsquaredinOmaha
/ladies.py That is what I thought - you have no answers and are simply interested in forcing others by your bullying. I took it off topic, directly to you, because I was honestly interested in your reply and didn't want your reply to be compelled to be less than honest. So my asking you

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-07 Thread Senthil Kumaran
(that I checked). I would normally have responded to this offlist but I see this as trolling[1]. -- Vinayak 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29 On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 9:49 PM, svaksha svak...@gmail.com wrote: https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py, comes

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-08 Thread Abdul Muneer
/ladies.py Most of us, don't like the way he is hiding behind his style of sarcastic humor, but for fear of being called an outcast from the community, we don't have the guts to come out in the open. Being a member / moderator / owner of various e-groups (tech non-tech) in India, I know

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-08 Thread Anand B Pillai
support PyLadies, a big ThankYou. Anand, another request, can you delete the chillpill repo on github? I had not forked your (now deleted) ladies.py repo publicly as I felt you deserved a chance to explain yourself. However, your chillpill repo comes across as STFU, annoying enough that I forked

Re: [BangPypers] Appropriate list conduct (was Re: Fwd: Fw: Fwd: https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py)

2013-09-09 Thread CsquaredinOmaha
bangpypers@python.org Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [BangPypers] Appropriate list conduct (was Re: Fwd: Fw:Fwd: https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py) Thanks Dhananjay, Finally someone is asking something sensible among all the mud throwing that's going on. I

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-07 Thread Vinayak Hegde
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Annapoornima Koppad a.kop...@gmail.comwrote: More, I had a good mind to email this particular detail to every women mailing list that I am aware of. But then, it would portray all Bangalore men in bad light. Which is not my intention. More over, I am in touch

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-07 Thread steve
Hi, On Sunday 08 September 2013 01:26 AM, svaksha wrote: On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Vinayak Hegde vinay...@gmail.com wrote: On second thoughts maybe this was the objectionable part def get_purpose(): Return the purpose raise AmbiguousMissionError, Mission unclear Also the

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-07 Thread svaksha
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Vinayak Hegde vinay...@gmail.com wrote: Also svaksha's mail did not mention what she found objectionable. Vinayak, did you miss this email? https://mail.python.org/pipermail/bangpypers/2013-September/009359.html My replies are as inline text as I dislike

[BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-07 Thread Daniel Greenfeld
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Anand B Pillai anandpillai at letterboxes.org wrote: in anyway, but in general I don't personally agree with woman coding as a separate problem as opposed to people coding. I hope you raised these objections on the PSF mailing list too. -svaksha As a PSF

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-07 Thread Anand B Pillai
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 08 September 2013 08:23 AM, svaksha wrote: The next time you see anything related to PyLadies or women in Foss, feel free to air your sexist view that women's groups is an issue more of politics than technology and society on the PSF

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-08 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
Pratham Gadre pratham.ga...@gmail.com writes: Audrey, We would like to hear your thoughts on the antics pulled by Anand Pillai (member of PSF). I think this is getting out of hand. There were mistakes made intentional or otherwise and this caused a lot of ill will. I'm not particularly fond

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-08 Thread Ramdas S
I think this is getting out of hand. There were mistakes made intentional or otherwise and this caused a lot of ill will. I'm not particularly fond of witch hunts. I don't think they're very effective and the damage done to the larger organisation when one of these things happen is often

[BangPypers] Fwd: https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-08 Thread svaksha
: CsquaredinOmaha c2inom...@yahoo.com Date: Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py To: svak...@gmail.com svak...@gmail.com svaksha, Let me see if I can summarize your string of responses: You are offended by Anand making fun of a group that used .com

[BangPypers] Closing the thread (was Re: Fwd: Fw: Fwd: https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py)

2013-09-08 Thread Anand B Pillai
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 09 September 2013 12:28 AM, CsquaredinOmaha wrote: My apology is retracted. I am sorry to have asked questions you can't answer. And I am truly sorry you are so unpleasant in how you deal with anything that isn't exactly to your

[BangPypers] Appropriate list conduct (was Re: Fwd: Fw: Fwd: https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py)

2013-09-08 Thread Dhananjay Nene
Subject: Fw: [BangPypers] Fwd: https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py To: svak...@gmail.com svak...@gmail.com Svaksah, This was intended to be sent to you directly, not to the group list. My rule is praise in public, criticize in private. But I made a mistake in replying using this yahoo

Re: [BangPypers] Appropriate list conduct (was Re: Fwd: Fw: Fwd: https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py)

2013-09-08 Thread Bibhas
you do something to stop this? Thanks. svaksha ॥ स्वक्ष -- Forwarded message -- From: CsquaredinOmaha c2inom...@yahoo.com Date: Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 6:32 PM Subject: Fw: [BangPypers] Fwd: https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py To: svak...@gmail.com svak...@gmail.com

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-07 Thread Anand B Pillai
and since the matter is settled, I am not sure what you are trying to do by sending these follow-ups. My isnt_that_odd function of ladies.py was specifically written to bring this point. Happy to see it hit the target. Anand, now you just come across as self-entitled and arrogant

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-07 Thread svaksha
python code? My isnt_that_odd function of ladies.py was specifically written to bring this point. Happy to see it hit the target. Anand, now you just come across as self-entitled and arrogant. The if apology not withstanding. 2. Mission - It would be nice to educate us all in this list about

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-07 Thread Vinayak Hegde
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 11:08 PM, svaksha svak...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Vinayak Hegde vinay...@gmail.com wrote: Also svaksha's mail did not mention what she found objectionable. Vinayak, did you miss this email?

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-07 Thread Anand B Pillai
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Saturday 07 September 2013 10:26 PM, Annapoornima Koppad wrote: More, I had a good mind to email this particular detail to every women mailing list that I am aware of. But then, it would portray all Bangalore men in bad light. Which is not

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-07 Thread svaksha
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Anand B Pillai anandpil...@letterboxes.org wrote: On Saturday 07 September 2013 10:26 PM, Annapoornima Koppad wrote: More, I had a good mind to email this particular detail to every women mailing list that I am aware of. But then, it would portray all Bangalore

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-08 Thread Annapoornima Koppad
All, Even though I am not particularly fond of Anand's deeds or comments, he has done a lot of work for the Python movement in his previous years. Which I believe should have added more sense of responsibility in his actions, given his experience. Which apparently has not happened. I suggest

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-07 Thread Annapoornima Koppad
women to code. One of my first ideas was to write Pyhton/Django code for the blog, make it a hacknight or a platform to gather women and start coding on it. Any reasons other than that, none! My isnt_that_odd function of ladies.py was specifically written to bring this point. Happy to see it hit

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-07 Thread Annapoornima Koppad
@Anand, I read this email after I typed the other response and sent it. Apologies accepted. Yes, it did offend me. Now since you are asking sorry, I will let it go. Thanks and regards, Annapoornima On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 12:26 AM, Anand B Pillai anandpil...@letterboxes.org wrote:

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-07 Thread Daniel Greenfeld
it - just to educate all of us here and me in particlar. I hope Anu's email was explanation enough. Yes it was to an extent and since the matter is settled, I am not sure what you are trying to do by sending these follow-ups. My isnt_that_odd function of ladies.py was specifically

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-07 Thread Annapoornima Koppad
and since the matter is settled, I am not sure what you are trying to do by sending these follow-ups. My isnt_that_odd function of ladies.py was specifically written to bring this point. Happy to see it hit the target. Anand, now you just come across as self-entitled and arrogant

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-07 Thread Sriram Narayanan
bother to reply. Since Vid has gone ahead and paraphrased on my behalf, though only part of the mails I'd sent to her: Here's what I wrote to Svaksha when I first saw the I love ladies.py on the github page. I hadn't thought about checking the init files: = begin quote === I don't know what

Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py

2013-09-07 Thread svaksha
Am reading all the responses, including Anand's apology, so I'll reply to those later. One at a time. And since you responded to my email, here goes: On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Vinayak Hegde vinay...@gmail.com wrote: Nope. I was talking about the initial mail which lacked context. There