Re: The Case for a Marriage Ammendment to the Constitution

2003-07-28 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sun, Jul 27, 2003 at 06:31:52PM -0700, Doug Pensinger wrote: I can't remember seeing such obvious sarcasm whoosh over people's heads the way Erik's comments did. I think the reason it seems so obvious to you is that you think about what my viewpoints are likely to be on various issues, and

RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-28 Thread Ritu
John D. Giorgis wrote: Ritu and Nick make similar points which I will respond to here. At 12:29 PM 7/25/2003 + Robert J. Chassell wrote: Robert J. Chassell wrote: The phrase The British have learned suggests to a listening public that the US President had US

RE: Justifying the War Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-28 Thread Ritu
John D. Giorgis wrote: As for your argument that liberation of Afghanistan would not have been justified on September 10th, 2001 - well I find it most peculiar to hear the logic of retribution coming from you.The liberation of Afghanistan was justified because it made the Afghan

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-28 Thread Dan Minette
Having questioned one side in the debate, let me question the other side. The discussion over the evidence for WMD that existed before Gulf War II seems to naturally flow out of what happened. Here's how I see what's happening. 1) There was general acceptance that Hussein has chemical and

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-28 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 6:07 PM Subject: Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words At 06:49 PM 7/27/2003 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: QUESTION 1) The British inform us that they

Re: Robotic Singularity

2003-07-28 Thread Alberto Monteiro
The Fool quoted: All of that is good, so these automated systems will proliferate rapidly. The problem is that these systems will also eliminate jobs in massive numbers. Yawn. More than 200 years after the Industrial Revolution, and the neoluddites are still using the same excuses

Thou shalt not obey

2003-07-28 Thread Chad Cooper
http://armedndangerous.blogspot.com/2003_07_13_armedndangerous_archive.html #105828974033195389 http://armedndangerous.blogspot.com/2003_07_13_armedndangerous_archive.html# 105828974033195389 Interesting blog from someone who states that man is not a killer by instinct, but rather a

Scouted: Surgery on Brain Tumor 'cures' pedophile

2003-07-28 Thread Jon Gabriel
http://www.salon.com/mwt/wire/2003/07/28/pedophile/index.html Excerpt: The man had an egg-sized brain tumor pressing on the right frontal lobe. When surgeons removed it, the lewd behavior and pedophilia faded away. Exactly why, the surgeons cannot quite explain. It's possible the tumor

Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread William T Goodall
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/25/technology/25SOFT.html Mr. Gates acknowledged today that the company's error reporting service indicated that 5 percent of all Windows-based computers now crash more than twice each day. -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web :

Re: Thou shalt not obey

2003-07-28 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Chad Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brin-L (E-mail 2) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Thou shalt not obey Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 08:22:12 -0700 http://armedndangerous.blogspot.com/2003_07_13_armedndangerous_archive.html #105828974033195389

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Mr. Gates acknowledged today that the company's error reporting service indicated that 5 percent of all Windows-based computers now crash more than twice each day. I guess this tells more about idiotic behaviour of Windo$e users than about Windo$e itself. Probably those people

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brin-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Windo$e Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 17:11:57 +0100 http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/25/technology/25SOFT.html Mr. Gates acknowledged today that the company's error reporting

Re: Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
---Original Message--- From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] QUESTION 1) The British inform us that they have learned that Iraq has recently tried to acquire significant quantities of intelligence in Africa. The Bush Administration naturally tries to verify this claim, but cannot

Corporate Fallout Detector

2003-07-28 Thread The Fool
http://web.media.mit.edu/jpatten/cfd/ Corporate Fallout Detector The Corporate Fallout Detector reads barcodes off of consumer products, and makes a noise similar to a gieger counter of varying intensity based on the social or environmental record of the company that produces the product. I

Re: Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-28 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 8:50 AM Subject: Re: Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words ---Original Message--- From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] QUESTION 1) The British

Re: TI interpreation of QM

2003-07-28 Thread Reggie Bautista
I wrote (re TI): Thanks for the explanation, I appreciate you taking the time to cover the pros and cons. Dan replied: Did what I say make sense to you? Do my posts on QM make sense? Or are you just being polite? There are times I get very frustrated with my own ability to communicate ideas

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-28 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Killer Bs Discussion) Subject: Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 18:49:28 -0400 QUESTION 1) The British inform us that they have learned that Iraq has recently tried to acquire

RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-28 Thread Horn, John
From: Gautam Mukunda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] already. When Ashcroft's jack-booted thugs come for you, give me a call - I'll be happy to protect you. When Ashcroft's jack-booted thugs come for them, they won't be able to call you. They won't get their one phone call. They won't be able

RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-28 Thread Horn, John
From: Gautam Mukunda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If John Ashcroft were anyone _but_ an evangelical Christian (speaking as a non-evangelical non-Christian) the way he is treated by the Left would be recognized by everyone for what it is - sheer religious bigotry of the most unvarnished sort.

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread William T Goodall
On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 05:32 pm, Jon Gabriel wrote: From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brin-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Windo$e Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 17:11:57 +0100 http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/25/technology/25SOFT.html Mr.

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 28 Jul 2003 at 12:32, Jon Gabriel wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/25/technology/25SOFT.html Mr. Gates acknowledged today that the company's error reporting service indicated that 5 percent of all Windows-based computers now crash more than twice each day. Honestly, I suspect

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 28 Jul 2003 at 19:17, William T Goodall wrote: On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 05:32 pm, Jon Gabriel wrote: From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brin-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Windo$e Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 17:11:57

SCOUTED: Leslie Townes Hope, 1903-2003

2003-07-28 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/05/27/entertainment/main555724.shtml ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Windo$e Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 19:17:23 +0100 On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 05:32 pm, Jon Gabriel wrote: From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Windo$e Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:24:24 +0100 On 28 Jul 2003 at 12:32, Jon Gabriel wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/25/technology/25SOFT.html

SCOUTED: Supreme Court Independence, by the Numbers

2003-07-28 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
SUPREME COURT INDEPENDENCE, BY THE NUMBERS from The Washington Post For years, two schools of thought have debated how the Supreme Court makes decisions. Are the nine justices simply politicians in robes, destined by ideology to vote a certain way, or are they independent actors, whose opinions

Re: Scouted: Surgery on Brain Tumor 'cures' pedophile

2003-07-28 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 12:04 PM 7/28/03 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: http://www.salon.com/mwt/wire/2003/07/28/pedophile/index.html Excerpt: The man had an egg-sized brain tumor pressing on the right frontal lobe. When surgeons removed it, the lewd behavior and pedophilia faded away. Exactly why, the surgeons cannot

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 05:11 PM 7/28/03 +0100, William T Goodall wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/25/technology/25SOFT.html Mr. Gates acknowledged today that the company's error reporting service indicated that 5 percent of all Windows-based computers now crash more than twice each day. And that's the

Re: Genetic fractions

2003-07-28 Thread Julia Thompson
Alberto Monteiro wrote: Julia Thompson wrote: Actually, it's him, not her, and the two that make my 126/128 instead of 128/128 are ancestors of his. Oh, how I hate the Internet! Why there's no Humanity Database with _all_ people that ever lived registered in it, so that we can so

Re: Scouted: Surgery on Brain Tumor 'cures' pedophile

2003-07-28 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Scouted: Surgery on Brain Tumor 'cures' pedophile Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 14:17:33 -0500 At 12:04 PM 7/28/03 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote:

Re: Gray Davis Recall Election Set for Sep-Oct

2003-07-28 Thread Julia Thompson
Kevin Tarr wrote: Okay, again I see all of that. But I'm assuming (and keep in mind I'm completely inebriated right now) that the Cal people agreed with a certain plan, then when things got tight, they wanted to change the plan. I'm not saying that business profits should trump all, but that

Re: The Case for a Marriage Ammendment to the Constitution

2003-07-28 Thread Julia Thompson
Doug Pensinger wrote: I know, I know, but we've got a lot of smart people here and I'm guessing that most of them are aware of Erik's libertarian views, not to mention his tendency to use sarcasm (especially when dealing with intolerance), so the statement: Catholics have a distorted view

Re: Scouted: Surgery on Brain Tumor 'cures' pedophile

2003-07-28 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 03:41 PM 7/28/03 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Scouted: Surgery on Brain Tumor 'cures' pedophile Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 14:17:33 -0500 At 12:04 PM

Re: The Case for a Marriage Amendment to the Constitution

2003-07-28 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 02:56 PM 7/28/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: Doug Pensinger wrote: I know, I know, but we've got a lot of smart people here and I'm guessing that most of them are aware of Erik's libertarian views, not to mention his tendency to use sarcasm (especially when dealing with intolerance), so

Re: Scouted: Surgery on Brain Tumor 'cures' pedophile

2003-07-28 Thread Reggie Bautista
Ronn! wrote: So what do we do to protect society from those who commit heinous crimes where either (1) no organic problem can be found, (2) an organic problem is found, but we don't know how to treat it, or (3) an organic problem is found and treated, but the behavior does not change? Was this

Re: The Case for a Marriage Amendment to the Constitution

2003-07-28 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 03:22:20PM -0500, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 02:56 PM 7/28/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: And I'm a horrible person and egg him on when he goes into that sort of mode. :) How does that make you a horrible person? Sounds like you and I are cut from the same cloth

Star Wars Kid Lawsuit

2003-07-28 Thread Reggie Bautista
From http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/news_brief.html: The parents of the infamous Star Wars kid are suing classmates who posted a humiliating video of their son on the Interet, according to Canada's Globe and Mail newspaper. Quebec teenager Ghyslian Raza was the target of worldwide

US to Accelerate Aid to Afghanistan

2003-07-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
U.S. to Seek New Afghan Aid Package Of $1 Billion Planned Boost Comes Amid Criticism of Reconstruction By Vernon Loeb and Glenn Kessler Washington Post Staff Writers Sunday, July 27, 2003; Page A01 The $1 billion package, which more than triples the $300 million Afghanistan receives,

Re: The Case for a Marriage Amendment to the Constitution

2003-07-28 Thread Julia Thompson
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 02:56 PM 7/28/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: And I'm a horrible person and egg him on when he goes into that sort of mode. :) How does that make you a horrible person? Sounds like you and I are cut from the same cloth (more warp than weft, one presumes) . .

Re: The Case for a Marriage Amendment to the Constitution

2003-07-28 Thread Julia Thompson
Erik Reuter wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 03:22:20PM -0500, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 02:56 PM 7/28/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: And I'm a horrible person and egg him on when he goes into that sort of mode. :) How does that make you a horrible person? Sounds like you and I

JMS To Quit Jeremiah?

2003-07-28 Thread Reggie Bautista
The second season of Jeremiah on Showtime (which wrapped a couple of months ago) starts airing this September. Unless something major changes, JMS won't be involved in any further seasons. From http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.html?2003-07/28/10.30.tv or

Re: The Case for a Marriage Amendment to the Constitution

2003-07-28 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 05:13 PM 7/28/03 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 03:22:20PM -0500, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 02:56 PM 7/28/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: And I'm a horrible person and egg him on when he goes into that sort of mode. :) How does that make you a horrible person? Sounds

Re: The Case for a Marriage Ammendment to the Constitution

2003-07-28 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The Case for a Marriage Ammendment to the Constitution Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 06:49:28 -0400 On Sun, Jul 27, 2003 at 06:31:52PM -0700, Doug Pensinger wrote:

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread William T Goodall
On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 07:22 pm, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 28 Jul 2003 at 19:17, William T Goodall wrote: But the user shouldn't be able to make the OS crash, however much of an ID10T they are. Then you have to strictly limit what they can do. Not really. I can't stand OS's which nanny

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Windo$e Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 23:05:49 +0100 On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 07:22 pm, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 28 Jul 2003 at 19:17, William T

Empire Of Lies

2003-07-28 Thread Robert Seeberger
A Speech From The Extremist Front: Ladies and gentlemen, fellow Children of the American Revolution, the great libertarian author and teacher Robert LeFevre once told me that the first money the United States government ever spent was a $20,000 check from a Dutch bank, drawn on an account that

Re: The Case for a Marriage Amendment to the Constitution

2003-07-28 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 04:41:27PM -0500, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 05:13 PM 7/28/03 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote: I think she was joking. I know I was. That makes 3 of us (or 2.5, depending on Julia's vagueness)! -- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/

Re: Empire Of Lies

2003-07-28 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A Speech From The Extremist Front: I like to think of myself as something of a Lincoln expert. I'm certainly a Lincoln _fanatic_. Where did you find such a piece of junk? I'm really curious in particular as to the historians he found who said

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 28 Jul 2003 at 23:05, William T Goodall wrote: On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 07:22 pm, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 28 Jul 2003 at 19:17, William T Goodall wrote: But the user shouldn't be able to make the OS crash, however much of an ID10T they are. Then you have to strictly

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Russell Chapman
William T Goodall wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/25/technology/25SOFT.html Mr. Gates acknowledged today that the company's error reporting service indicated that 5 percent of all Windows-based computers now crash more than twice each day. We have some staff here who get this sort of

Re: Arrgh!

2003-07-28 Thread Russell Chapman
Erik Reuter wrote: There are plenty of specifically designed watercooling systems designed for overclocked PCs, which just replace the heatsink/fan unit with a coupler, and run the pump and radiator separately. But that doesn't do a lot to cool your hard drive(s) or graphics cards. I've seen it

Re: Scouted: Surgery on Brain Tumor 'cures' pedophile

2003-07-28 Thread Russell Chapman
Jon Gabriel wrote: I suppose the solution may just be to give people a test to see if they have a tumor that, if removed, may cure them. If they don't, prosecute. If no other medical condition has been found to conclusively cause aberrant behavior of this type then the theory that one might

Re: Empire Of Lies

2003-07-28 Thread Doug Pensinger
Gautam Mukunda wrote: The idea that it was about confiscatory taxation is, of course, absurd. It's nice to find something we can agree on wholeheartedly. Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Empire Of Lies

2003-07-28 Thread Reggie Bautista
rob posted: A Speech From The Extremist Front: [actual speech snipped] You Want Controversy, You Get Controversy Maru Whatever happened to putting L3 in the subject line for posts this long ;-) Some of the historical data here sounds a little... unsound, but I'm sure there are others on the

Re: The Case for a Marriage Ammendment to the Constitution

2003-07-28 Thread Reggie Bautista
Erik wrote: Are you really suggesting that people should limit their satire to trivial issues? ... Saturday Night Live completely neutered? You mean they aren't now? Reggie Bautista Smiley Maru _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and

Homeland Security Issue? :-)

2003-07-28 Thread Dan Minette
From http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/ap/20030728/ap_on_re_us/texa s_redistricting_2 Democratic state lawmakers fled Texas on Tuesday for the second time in three months to thwart a Republican drive to redraw the state's congressional districts. Eleven of the 12 Democrats

Re: Empire Of Lies

2003-07-28 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 6:40 PM Subject: Re: Empire Of Lies rob posted: A Speech From The Extremist Front: [actual speech snipped] You Want Controversy, You Get Controversy Maru Whatever

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Reggie Bautista
Jon wrote: It seems horrifically high. I suspect that it's a combination of lack of maintenance and ID10T errors. I use tons of programs, usually simultaneously on my Windows machine and don't have problems, but I keep them maintained, too. There are two computers at home, both with Windows

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread William T Goodall
On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 11:24 pm, Jon Gabriel wrote: Nothing one can install without an admin password is capable of crashing any serious OS. Heh. Ironic. I guess OS X 10.2.6 is out then. Which does require an admin password to install :) Co-workers clean-installed the latest version of

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread William T Goodall
On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 11:56 pm, Russell Chapman wrote: William T Goodall wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/25/technology/25SOFT.html Mr. Gates acknowledged today that the company's error reporting service indicated that 5 percent of all Windows-based computers now crash more than

World Premiere

2003-07-28 Thread William T Goodall
Tonight was the world premiere on the UK scifi channel of the first of the three Firefly episodes that were unaired in the US when the show was cancelled. It was good. Drat. Drat because it was cancelled, and drat because there are only two more to go...two more Mondays. Or Tuesdays, since I

Re: What is a homemaker worth?

2003-07-28 Thread Reggie Bautista
Julia wrote: We could not buy disability insurance on me. We tried. I don't know if it was state law or the insurance company, but I couldn't be insured for disability. Were you looking while you were pregnant? Lots of insurance companies will deny disability and even life coverage to women

outrageous: defense department terror betting pool

2003-07-28 Thread The Fool
http://www.thewbalchannel.com/news/2363276/detail.html Defense Dept. Program Taking Terror Bets Program Models 'Futures' Markets POSTED: 3:20 p.m. EDT July 28, 2003 A new Department of Defense program allows traders to bet on the likelihood of future terrorist attacks. The department's

Re: World Premiere

2003-07-28 Thread Reggie Bautista
William T. Goodall wrote: Tonight was the world premiere on the UK scifi channel of the first of the three Firefly episodes that were unaired in the US when the show was cancelled... [snip] And in the Whedon repertory company checklist the guest star was the guy who played the loquacious

Re: Homeland Security Issue? :-)

2003-07-28 Thread TomFODW
Democratic state lawmakers fled Texas on Tuesday for the second time in three months to thwart a Republican drive to redraw the state's congressional districts. Eleven of the 12 Democrats in the state Senate left for Albuquerque, N.M., as a first special session called by the governor to

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-28 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/27/2003 6:43:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And its unclear that arrest is even the proper word to describe what the Chairman tried to do - since I don't think that even if the Chairman's request had been carried out that the Democratic

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-28 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/27/2003 6:41:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lastly, if Al Gore had won the 2000 election, would you be bitterly complaining that he did so thanks to his partisans on the Florida Supreme Court? If a full recount of the florida vote had been

Re: The Case for a Marriage Ammendment to the Constitution

2003-07-28 Thread Jim Sharkey
Erik Reuter wrote: Saturday Night Live completely neutered? SNL neutered itself a long time ago. :-) Jim ___ Express Yourself - Share Your Mood in Emails! Visit www.SmileyCentral.com - the happiest place on the Web.

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-28 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/27/2003 7:07:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 06:49 PM 7/27/2003 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: QUESTION 1) The British inform us that they have learned that Iraq has recently tried to acquire significant quantities of intelligence in

Re: World Premiere

2003-07-28 Thread William T Goodall
On Tuesday, July 29, 2003, at 02:09 am, Reggie Bautista wrote: I wasn't much impressed by the first episode of Firefly Which wasn't supposed to be the first... so I didn't make much of an effort to follow it. However, since then I have seen some of the later episodes on tape and am now

RE: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William T Goodall Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 8:15 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Windo$e On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 11:24 pm, Jon Gabriel wrote: Nothing one can install without an admin password is capable of

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Russell Chapman
William T Goodall wrote: The most unreliable OS I had running until recently was the OS on my Vigor 2600We ADSL modem-router-firewall-wireless-basestation-kitchen-sink gadget which used to lock up every 10 to 14 days, requiring a reboot. I upgraded the firmware a couple of months ago and it

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-28 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/27/2003 9:21:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you seriously believe that if any person other than Bush were President we would have taken out Saddam by now? Really? I think there was some sentiment to do this amoung Clinton's advisors. I am not

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Russell Chapman
Reggie Bautista wrote: One of them crashes maybe once every couple of months. With the other one, I'm lucky if it doesn't crash at least once a day. The only hardware difference between them is that they have different models of mouse. I think this inconsistency is what really pisses people

RE: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Reggie Bautista Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 8:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Windo$e Jon wrote: It seems horrifically high. I suspect that it's a combination of lack of maintenance and ID10T errors. I use tons of

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread William T Goodall
On Tuesday, July 29, 2003, at 02:46 am, Jon Gabriel wrote: Jon Merely Amusing Myself Maru If it makes you happy... -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was

Who Are the US's Allies? Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 09:52 PM 7/28/2003 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bush _used_ the sympathy 9/11 generated to make possible something that would not have been possible without it - the removal of Saddam Hussein, something that was clearly not in the interest of anyone in the region or in Europe (save

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread William T Goodall
On Tuesday, July 29, 2003, at 02:49 am, Russell Chapman wrote: My D-Link version of these used to do that too, but it turned out that the cable ISP (which specifically bans the use of any sort of internet sharing device, and requires an authentication client running on the PC to enforce it)

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-28 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are kidding about this. We had one true ally in this Britain. The other are either not major players or are anxious to please us (not a bad thing; it is refreshing that countries that owe their freedom to us feel gratitude but they would probably have agreed

RE: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William T Goodall Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:14 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Windo$e On Tuesday, July 29, 2003, at 01:08 am, Reggie Bautista wrote: Jon wrote: It seems horrifically high. I suspect that

RE: Empire Of Lies

2003-07-28 Thread Horn, John
From: Gautam Mukunda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The other stuff is equally tendentious, of course. The idea that the Civil War wasn't about slavery is the product of a frankly racist school of historical thinking that few historians of the post-Civil Rights era would accept. The idea that

RE: Empire Of Lies

2003-07-28 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree completely. I just finished reading The Battle Cry of Freedom a few months ago. It was clear from there that the war was, in fact, about states rights. (Which is one of many things historical revisionists like to say.) However, the rights

Re: Homeland Security Issue? :-)

2003-07-28 Thread Julia Thompson
Dan Minette wrote: From http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/ap/20030728/ap_on_re_us/texa s_redistricting_2 Democratic state lawmakers fled Texas on Tuesday for the second time in three months to thwart a Republican drive to redraw the state's congressional districts. Eleven

Re: What is a homemaker worth?

2003-07-28 Thread Julia Thompson
Reggie Bautista wrote: Julia wrote: We could not buy disability insurance on me. We tried. I don't know if it was state law or the insurance company, but I couldn't be insured for disability. Were you looking while you were pregnant? Lots of insurance companies will deny disability

Re: The Case for a Marriage Amendment to the Constitution

2003-07-28 Thread Julia Thompson
Erik Reuter wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 04:41:27PM -0500, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 05:13 PM 7/28/03 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote: I think she was joking. I know I was. That makes 3 of us (or 2.5, depending on Julia's vagueness)! Considering the contents of my belly, go for any

Re: Empire Of Lies

2003-07-28 Thread Julia Thompson
Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A Speech From The Extremist Front: I like to think of myself as something of a Lincoln expert. I'm certainly a Lincoln _fanatic_. Where did you find such a piece of junk? On L. Neil Smith's website? I've read one

Re: Empire Of Lies

2003-07-28 Thread Julia Thompson
Robert Seeberger wrote: Actually, I had a different motive. With all the polarizing discussion on the list lately, dividing us into liberal and conservative camps, I wanted to show that there are Americans out there who in completely serious tones will make everyone on this list appear to

RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-28 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... The State of the Union is irrelevant to this example. But it is not irrelevant because this is THE major policy speech that the president makes every year. This speech is worked on

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 02:13 AM 7/29/03 +0100, William T Goodall wrote: My HP calculator has never crashed, although there are instructions in the manual for resetting it should that happen :) Neither have any of mine (at least 4 different models I can recall, all of which I still have and still use 3 of them

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-28 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 09:52 PM 7/28/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are kidding about this. We had one true ally in this Britain. The other are either not major players or are anxious to please us (not a bad thing; it is refreshing that countries that owe their freedom to us feel gratitude but they would

Re: Who Are the US's Allies? Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-28 Thread David Hobby
John D. Giorgis wrote: ... You are kidding about this. We had one true ally in this Britain. The other are either not major players or are anxious to please us (not a bad thing. Ahem. ... You have also forgotten Poland, which is the second-largest country in Europe O.K.,

Re: Windo$e

2003-07-28 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Jon Gabriel wrote: But the user shouldn't be able to make the OS crash, however much of an ID10T they are. Tell that to the third party software makers, please. Some of it is just badly written for Macs AND PC's. AOL used to freeze my computer pretty darn frequently in OS9. Who's to