Re: A reasonable view.

2004-02-20 Thread Jan Coffey
I disagree. That automatic questioning, that first assumption is akin to intolerance. Many things are not as you say necessarily correct. Reverse implications and knee-jerk emotions are places where differences become intolerance and even hate. Someone can believe, for instance, that Isreal's

Re: the Hate Amendment compared to Gov't actions Against Polygamy

2004-02-20 Thread Jan Coffey
I'm not religious, (not morman) and I know of many triples who live very happily. I don't know of many quads who last long, they usualy end up in smaller groups, but 3 does seem to be the magic number for many. I take issue with the assumption that this is always sexist. What about 2 males

Re: the Hate Amendment compared to Gov't actions Against Polygamy

2004-02-20 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Jan Coffey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 1:57 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: the Hate Amendment compared to Gov't actions Against Polygamy I'm

A reasonable view.

2004-02-19 Thread Jan Coffey
I was moved by the words you typed in the message below. I was especially excited by this passage: Just because someone disagrees with the means that you prefer to do certain things, a lot of people on this list seem to believe that means that we're hostile to your ends. As someone who

Re: Is my father-in-law Jewish?

2004-02-17 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/12/2004 6:18:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Then there is the question of what it means to be anti-semetic. There is a teacher here localy who stated: And what are they doing with the

Re: Is my father-in-law Jewish?

2004-02-17 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You assume that Millions of average people had a blind hatred, and had found justification any way they could, simply to persecute a group they had blind hatred for. In fact millions of people did hate the jews. It was the official

Re: Is my father-in-law Jewish?

2004-02-17 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan wrote: You assume that Millions of average people had a blind hatred, and had found justification any way they could, simply to persecute a group they had blind hatred for. That sounds a bit like raceism to me. Have

Re: Is my father-in-law Jewish?

2004-02-13 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan wrote: Also, to understand ones disfavor one must put it in historical context. In the 17 1800s there was much disdane for Jewish comunities becouse they did something specific that was considered at the time to

Re: Is my father-in-law Jewish?

2004-02-13 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/12/2004 10:43:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also, to understand ones disfavor one must put it in historical context. In the 17 1800s there was much disdane for Jewish comunities becouse they

Re: Is my father-in-law Jewish?

2004-02-13 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/13/2004 2:28:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However, your view seems to me to be a bit of a simplistic one. Political winds change, different groups with different opinions move in and out of

Re: Is my father-in-law Jewish?

2004-02-12 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 4:01 PM Subject: Re: Is my father-in-law Jewish? There is a saying in Christianity that no one has faith

Re: Reviews for Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ

2004-02-04 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/3/2004 6:02:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If a group of Jews make a movie about WWII in the year 3950 will there be Germans complaining that it sheds them in a bad light? What this in essence

Re: Reviews for Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ

2004-02-04 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/3/2004 6:02:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If a group of Jews make a movie about WWII in the year 3950 will there be Germans complaining that it sheds them in a bad light? What this in essence

Re: Reviews for Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ

2004-02-03 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Fool wrote: -- Aryan Nations --Vangard News Network -- Christian Comedian Chonda Pierce (From a letter posted on the National Vangard web site) -- The White

Re: Reviews for Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ

2004-02-03 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3 Feb 2004, at 11:23 pm, Damon Agretto wrote: Actually try thinking about it critically, rather than quipping a hackneyed response. The fundamentalists don't think about it critically. And the Reformation was

Re: Reviews for Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ

2004-02-03 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: Should Italians also complain about the movie becouse it makes their distant ansesters look bad? I think that current Italians bear no relation to the Romans, except that they live in the same place

Re: Reviews for Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ

2004-02-03 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP Imagine if the First records of Abraham Lincoln came 35 years after he supposedly lived / Died. And imagine if the First records of the Civil War and Imancipatiom of slaves were found 90 to 100 years after he supposedly died. There

Conseptual lines - Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-02-02 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One can believe (as I do NOT) that a centralized autocratic government, possibly headed by a dictatorial leader, with economic and social regimentation is a good idea, without

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-31 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Davd Brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2 - Saddam would go next. 3 - The Saudi sheiks would piss in pants. We could tell them so far - because you are rich and play golf with our aristos - we have let you have BOTH homes in LAs Vegas and Jihad against out

Conseptual lines - Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-31 Thread Jan Coffey
. and other races... enemies within... because by demonizing them you got to not only strengthen the army but the interior ministry and secret police. --- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fool, let me suggest something

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damon Agretto wrote: ... Korea. When the US government has to start tapping guard assets in order to relieve regular army units, then I think we have a manpower problem. I've stated before that we DO need more troops, and I

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wait a minute, I LIKE economic solutions to social problems. Properly done, emissions trading would help to make the market more responsive to environmental costs. (Improperly done, it could be an easy way to weaken

Conseptual lines - Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fool, let me suggest something. Learn a tiny little bit about a topic before you make comments like this. Because the world faced fascism once, and we want to prevent it from ever happening again. Yes, 6 million dead

Re: Brin: best SF e-zine?

2004-01-30 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Lalith Vipulananthan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: That web site as you probably can tell is the web presence of the Sci- Fi channel, and Sci-Fi Mag. I don't know what your deffinition of mainline SF magazines is, but I would think

Re: More good reasons to Distrust Corporations and Drug Companies

2004-01-29 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A58130-2004Jan28? language=print er Makers of popular antidepressants such as Paxil, Zoloft and Effexor have refused to disclose the details of most clinical trials involving depressed

Re: Brin: best SF e-zine?

2004-01-29 Thread Jan Coffey
That web site as you probably can tell is the web presence of the Sci- Fi channel, and Sci-Fi Mag. I don't know what your deffinition of mainline SF magazines is, but I would think that this particulare one, while not what I would consider to be mainline, it's kind of in the oposite direction

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-29 Thread Jan Coffey
But I do not think that he is focusing on that ~part~. Both are equaly valid points using the same story for analogy. It is perfectly fine to have both be valid. If you take from the discussion that ~conservatism~ is not at all what modern Republicans are practicing, then it is a very

Re: More good reasons to Distrust Corporations and Drug Companies

2004-01-29 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personaly I think that scientific information, discoveries should never be secret. I had a physics prof who had a pattent on an solution to a class of equations. (don't remember details), So, everyone now knows the information, can use the

Re: Aircraft Carrier on eBay

2004-01-28 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Nunn Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 04:04 AM To: Brin Mail List Subject: Aircraft Carrier on eBay Just

Re: did I break it?

2004-01-23 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sent this e-mail last night, with the subject work e-mail Not about list e-mail, but general work e-mail. I got chastised by a boss because I was contacting a user using e-mail instead of calling directly. The text of the

Re: did I break it?

2004-01-23 Thread Jan Coffey
p.s. Often I hear people requesting an e-mail of a phone conversation just so they can cover there ass. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Easterbrook on Bush's NASA plan

2004-01-16 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ronn!Blankenship No Buck Rogers == no bucks. As someone else here has already said, the taxpayers aren't going to get excited about spending billions just to get a piece of asteroid. Space exploration is probably the best way to inprove our economy. Nearly

Re: how CAPPS II works

2004-01-15 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 04:19 PM 1/14/2004, you wrote: This is the scariest thing ever. Get ready to be extorted! You want to fly, you have to pay $250 for your Cendant security records so that you can find out why your rating comes up yellow or

Re: how CAPPS II works

2004-01-14 Thread Jan Coffey
This is the scariest thing ever. Get ready to be extorted! You want to fly, you have to pay $250 for your Cendant security records so that you can find out why your rating comes up yellow or red. Then once you find out you will have to pay thousands and thousands of dollars to clear the false

Re: Flight Sim and Witch Hunts

2004-01-09 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/28/34776.html Flight Sim enquiry raises terror alert By Andrew Orlowski in Las Vegas Posted: 08/01/2004 at 22:39 GMT Get The Reg wherever you are, with The Mobile Register A mother's

Re: Rugby: was Shouldn't this have read N-F-L

2004-01-06 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:55 PM 1/5/2004, you wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: The Sugarboal. (Why do they call it a boal?) OU looked like they didn't care, but then the LSU defence was rolling over them. In answer to the question, I think because

Re: Minimal Profits for Halliburton

2004-01-06 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5 Jan 2004, Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] said In other words, the Bush Administration has limited the numbers of people available to the Coalition Provisional

Return of the King Review Re: my mini review

2004-01-05 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Travis Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bryon Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Return of the King Review Re: my mini review Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 12:38:24 -0500 From: Travis Edmunds

Shouldn't this have read N-F-L ? Re: NHL observation

2004-01-05 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bryon Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] John D. Giorgis wrote: At 09:53 PM 12/27/2003 -0600 Julia Thompson wrote: At one point, they were my second-favorite AFC team. Now I like half the AFC East better. Julia

Rugby: was Shouldn't this have read N-F-L

2004-01-05 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jan Coffey Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 03:47 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Shouldn't this have read N-F-L ? Re

Re: He was the train we did not catch

2003-12-31 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30 Dec 2003, at 10:06 pm, Jan Coffey wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.scifi.com/sfw/current/excess.html He missed the train. So did we. He was the train we did

Re: He was the train we did not catch

2003-12-30 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.scifi.com/sfw/current/excess.html He missed the train. So did we. He was the train we did not catch. I have no idea if this will get to anyone on the list. I am back, as it were, but I am hopeing I can participate

MIA

2003-11-05 Thread Jan Coffey
Everyone, I will be gone for some time, returning to the list after Thanksgiving. I wish you well in the interim. = _ Jan William Coffey _ __ Do

Re: Dogmatism

2003-11-03 Thread Jan Coffey
, wouldn't you say? Responsibility like that of a black belt not to get into a fight, since such a fight might be lethal for the opponent. --- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

Re: Dogmatism

2003-11-03 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Spock would say when confronted in such a way, ...Indeed. He did, however, sound to me like one of many Everyone who isn't a staunch conservative is out to get the Jews kind of thinker. If he

Re: Dogmatism

2003-11-03 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wasn't Marx a Jew ethnicaly? His family converted. It's certainly possible to be a self-hating Jew. Oh come on! That's a stretch and you know it. I think you will agree that it is more likely that he made

Re: Dogmatism

2003-11-02 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An interesting aside to this is a conversation I had with an atheist friend of mine during a long drive at the end of a business trip. He pointed out that the conflict between evolution and fundamentalism didn't really start until the 20s. At that

Re: Dogmatism

2003-11-02 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 1:37 PM Subject: Re: Dogmatism And then there was some other rambelings by someone who clearly has

Overloaded English was: Re: religious/political question

2003-11-01 Thread Jan Coffey
--- William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't accept that, You don't accept that the use of the word religion, or that the intent was that use? You don't accept that you are mistaken about this usage? I'm perfectly willing to argue that many people in these days

Re: religious/political question

2003-10-31 Thread Jan Coffey
--- William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 31 Oct 2003, at 17:29, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 31 Oct 2003 at 15:19, William T Goodall wrote: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=religion 4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

Re: It's a boy!

2003-10-30 Thread Jan Coffey
just got back from OOPSLA con and heard. Congrats. --- Matt Grimaldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Michael Grimaldi, Born 23-Oct-2003 at 6:52 p.m. 10 lb., 8 oz. 20.5 inches Both baby and mother are doing well, though Andrew was transfered to the NICU at another hospital to monitor

Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-24 Thread Jan Coffey
Um, on second thoughts seach the link. --- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 23 Oct 2003 at 21:55, The Fool wrote: From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 23 Oct 2003 at 15:59, The Fool wrote: From: Andrew

Re: iTunes for Windo$e

2003-10-24 Thread Jan Coffey
--- William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday, October 24, 2003, at 06:43 am, Jan Coffey wrote: 16 bits per sample? yuck! get with the program, we are talking 24 at the very least and 32 if you are recording to standard mdvd. never mind the format wars). 16 bits

Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-24 Thread Jan Coffey
--- William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday, October 24, 2003, at 06:50 am, Jan Coffey wrote: --- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And it's those very same API's you just mentioned that will stop your driver from capturing video as part of a secure video pipeline

RE: iTunes for Windo$e

2003-10-24 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jan Coffey Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 10:00 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: iTunes for Windo$e --- William T Goodall

Re: iTunes for Windo$e

2003-10-24 Thread Jan Coffey
Reggie, What are you using for recording? --- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: 16 bits per sample? yuck! get with the program, we are talking 24 at the very least and 32 if you are recording to standard mdvd. never mind the format wars). Extra bits are nice

Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-23 Thread Jan Coffey
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] After a time limit an email doesn't vanish -- it expires. Someone with administrative rights can still retrieve it from a server, she added. And the software after the message has 'expired' will no

Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-23 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Russell Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Fool wrote: Microsoft has been making changes in the API's / DirectX to be able to give programs the ability to prevent this. The framework has been in place for quite some time. Indeed - we installed a series of data projectors in the

Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-23 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think that would be a compliment for Satan taught people to reason for themselves and not to trust or rely on so-called authority figures. Indeed, an honor

Re: McNabb and Limbaugh Re: Raceism L3

2003-10-23 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: massive snippage So, in short, while you could argue that PC has been used to attack very reasonable conservative positions, that dog doesn't hunt with Rush. Dear Dan, Pleez git yer frases right

Re: iTunes for Windo$e

2003-10-23 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: William T. Goodall posted: Just to footnote that there is a review at Stereophile Magazine, complete with measurements and graphs and all, that concludes:- The iPod's measured behavior is better than many CD players—ironic, considering that

Re: [Listref] Microsoft launches self-destructing email (false)

2003-10-23 Thread Jan Coffey
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 23 Oct 2003 at 15:59, The Fool wrote: From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 22 Oct 2003 at 21:13, The Fool wrote: From: David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Fool

Re: Vanity: Where is she now.....

2003-10-23 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Gary Nunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone remember Vanity? The Prince protégée and sex goddess of the 80's? I ran across this website (see ling below) and thought that she looked familiar. I was amazed to discover that she is the artist formally known as Vanity. Quite a lifestyle

Re: Oh, BTW: Re: How some conservatives are deliberately destroying America

2003-10-21 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 06:37 PM 10/20/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/20/opinion/20MON3.html Well, I hope you're happy as prisoners are let out early, people die, teachers are fired, Guv Rip co. are the ones making the decision

Re: Rebellious Children! Stoning Is The Answer!

2003-10-21 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Mark R Stockman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julia Micah could be the reference you are looking for - but Proverbs shows the rod is not the scroll of teachings - it is exactly what you think it is and is meant to be applied to the backside! 'Micah 6:9 - The LORD's voice crieth unto the

Re: Rebellious Children! Stoning Is The Answer!

2003-10-21 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Fool wrote: Ooh, licence to assault people commiting thought crimes. Shall We commit ritual acts of virgin sacrifice next (Jg 11:30-32;11:34- 41)? Or perhaps you prefer we commit genocide against unbelievers (dt 7:2; 13:12-16)? Fascist

Re: Rebellious Children! Stoning Is The Answer!

2003-10-21 Thread Jan Coffey
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Fool wrote: Ooh, licence to assault people commiting thought crimes. Shall We commit ritual acts of virgin sacrifice next (Jg 11:30-32;11:34- 41)? Or perhaps you prefer we commit genocide against

Re: Leaves of Grass (was Re: Rebellious Children! Stoning Is The Answer!)

2003-10-21 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 9:38 PM Subject: Leaves of Grass (was Re: Rebellious Children! Stoning Is The Answer!) The Fool wrote: From: Jim

Re: iTunes for Windo$e

2003-10-19 Thread Jan Coffey
--- William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 04:35 am, Doug Pensinger wrote: So I'm assuming, after reading this: http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,112983,00.asp, that I can't play tunes downloaded from ITunes on my Musicmatch jukebox?

Re: Vatican Vs Science: 'condoms don't stop hiv / AIDS'

2003-10-16 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: William T Goodall wrote: I must have missed the announcement when the RC church became a democracy ... the RC church is not controlled by North American catholics. It never will be. If you want a more liberal church you'll have to have a

Re: Vatican Vs Science: 'condoms don't stop hiv / AIDS'

2003-10-16 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: William T. Goodall wrote: I must have missed the announcement when the RC church became a democracy ... the RC church is not controlled by North American catholics. It never will be. If you want a more liberal church you'll have to have a schism

Re: Archbishop of Canterbury defends Terrorism

2003-10-16 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:56 AM Subject: Re: Archbishop of Canterbury defends Terrorism From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Archbishop of Canterbury defends Terrorism

2003-10-16 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 3:07 PM Subject: Re: Archbishop of Canterbury defends Terrorism So can one really have a good

Re: Baseball Questions

2003-10-16 Thread Jan Coffey
Or better yet, why not put the ace in after the 3ed or 4th inning? --- John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: O.k., I will admit to not being much of a baseball fan... in fact, I pretty much only watch the playoffs. Nevertheless, I would appreciate it if someone can answer either of the

Re: Vatican Vs Science: 'condoms don't stop hiv / AIDS'

2003-10-11 Thread Jan Coffey
the virus can pass through. Jan Coffey responded Evil, pure evil. Catholics everywhere should be ashamed. As at least a nominal Catholic, I can tell you that ashamed does not even begin to cover the reaction felt my most of the other Catholics I've talked to. Furious comes a lot closer

Re: Incompetence?

2003-10-11 Thread Jan Coffey
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's say the White House DID want to get revenge on Wilson; *Why* would it choose outing his wife as the way to do it?  Wouldn't there be countless better, more direct, more subtle, less *traitorous* ways to do so?  You know, get him tax audited, get a

Re: Redskins RE: Raceism

2003-10-11 Thread Jan Coffey
--- John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 03:54 PM 10/3/2003 -0700 Chad Cooper wrote: Since when... Maybe 300 years ago... If it was an effective epithet, it would be in everyday language for the average 14 Year-old boy. Its comical to think of a young kid using the words You redskin!

Re: Teenager In Trouble In Inhaler Incident

2003-10-10 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=320ncid=320e=2u=/ibsys/20031008/lo_kprc/1822975 A teenager was disciplined for sharing medication used to treat asthma, but he said it saved his girlfriend's life, News2Houston reported Wednesday.

Re: Vatican Vs Science: 'condoms don't stop hiv / AIDS'

2003-10-09 Thread Jan Coffey
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/aids/story/0,7369,1059068,00.html Vatican: condoms don't stop Aids Sex and the Holy City includes a Catholic nun advising her HIV-infected choirmaster against using condoms with his wife because the virus can pass through.

Re: list help: one cup coffee makers

2003-10-08 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Why do I keep spelling coffee without the second e?) it's Coffey (without the second E) = _ Jan William Coffey _

Re: memorization vs. idea space position

2003-10-06 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP The same is true only more so with electronic music. Complex electronic timbres can be hard to pin down right away, but I can usually create the sound I'm hearing in my head with some time and trial and error. I appreciate the

Re: memorization vs. idea space position

2003-10-06 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You (Dan) said above, I just don't understand how you [can] know exactly what you want but not be able to map it onto any nominal means of recording musical thought. The answer is that I *can* map it, it just takes some time sometimes to make the

Re: Twin pictures

2003-10-06 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.zurg.net/twins.html 4) Tommy on left, Catherine on right Contentment :) = _ Jan William Coffey _

Re: Brin: rejuveniles

2003-10-06 Thread Jan Coffey
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder how this relates to neoteny: http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/feat/archives/2003/09/02/2003066235 From childless fans of kiddie music to the grown-up readers of Harry Potter, inner children are having fun all over. I destinctly remember

Re: Brin: rejuveniles

2003-10-06 Thread Jan Coffey
--- d.brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder how this relates to neoteny: http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/feat/archives/2003/09/02/2003066235 From childless fans of kiddie music to the grown-up readers of Harry Potter, inner children are

Re: Brin: rejuveniles

2003-10-06 Thread Jan Coffey
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/6/2003 3:26:34 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: bloody amateurs. think they invented alienation. Sheesh. You realize, of course, how close you were to saying why in my day? C'mon, say it,

RE: a new Brin: book review

2003-10-03 Thread Jan Coffey
--- ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: I didn't post the article, Apologies. For what? I was only clarifying. and I am basing my coments on that article and co-workers of mine, and my wife who had to get a special waver to even be able to go over to Bangalore

Re: Raceism

2003-10-03 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is really silly, Jon. If you want to change people's minds, telling them they can't or shouldn't be use a name is a rather dumb way to go about it. Besides, most people don't like whiners. Using or not using the name redskins is not an important

Re: Raceism

2003-10-03 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 05:22:10PM -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: Uh huh. And 'Nigger' comes from 'Negroe', which means 'Black'. I'm sure that with subtle alterations, this argument would go over very poorly with African-American communities

Re: Raceism

2003-10-02 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Jan Coffey wrote: Today on the news we learned that questioning hype around a quarterback is racist, but naming a team after an ethnic group which doe not desire to have the team named after them is not. Which

Re: Enterprise, was Re: Popular Mechanics editors a bunch of cranks?

2003-10-02 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Sonja van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim Sharkey wrote: Reggie Bautista wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: more vulcan flesh, show more vulcan flesh Jim Sharkey replied: Ahh, the sweet smell of pandering. :) Even with the increased pandering this season

Re: Raceism

2003-10-02 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 8:21 PM Subject: Raceism Today on the news we learned that questioning hype around a quarterback

Re: jobless recovery

2003-10-02 Thread Jan Coffey
It's sad really. For the modern economist game to work, someone has to loose. Capitalism doesn't have to work that way, but it is a whole lot easier to manage if it does. Someday maybe peopel will wake up and use their group power to end this kind of crazyness...no, people are to greedy for that.

RE: a new Brin: book review

2003-10-02 Thread Jan Coffey
--- ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: So with a borderless -free market-, why is it that you can go into a company in bangalore and they are nearly %100 Indean? Because not too many foreigners want to live and work in India for Indian wages? If Indeans can

Re: Brin takes on the right

2003-10-01 Thread Jan Coffey
--- d.brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan read a book awhile back, when he was working on rewriting the bylaws for his company, that stated that the board of directors of a company needed to take 3 groups into consideration: 1) Employees 2) Shareholders 3) Community in which the

Raceism

2003-10-01 Thread Jan Coffey
Today on the news we learned that questioning hype around a quarterback is racesist, but naming a team after an ethnic group which doe not desire to have the team named after them is not. Rush Limbaugh's statments were clearly ~anti~ racesist if anything. But neer mind the reality, reality

Re: a new Brin: book review

2003-09-30 Thread Jan Coffey
--- William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you're a communist then? Absolutly not. However, I do believe that a countries first concern should be for it's own people. Companies who are able to rise due to our way, our capitalist democracy, should be expected to benifit our citizens

Re: Creeping thread ( was RE: A bit of a rant (was SFBC))

2003-09-30 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim wrote: Creeping thread sounds like a Metallica parody Maru Or Anne McCaffrey's first horror novel, in which the people of Pern discover that Thread from the Red Star is sentient... Reggie Bautista Or Is That Sapient? Maru Your just

Re: Popular Mechanics editors a bunch of cranks?

2003-09-29 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only a minor one: the episode of Jake 2.0 The Jury's Still Out On The Series Maru They must have changed channels or fallen asleap. This show is an exact - I'm talking exact ripoff of the one on SciFi. Can't remember the name just now becouse

Re: memorization vs. idea space position

2003-09-29 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan replied: One of the interesting parts of this is that this question is not well suited to empirical verification. We are discussing ideas that are worthwhile, but never get communicated to the outside world. I think it is safe to say that

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