Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser 2.8.3: Hendrickson-Lattman coefficients generated from dataset lacking anomalous signal

2024-02-09 Thread Eleanor Dodson
If I remember for coefficients with FOM and a precise PHI calculated, A = FOM*cos(phi) B = FOM*sin(phi) C=D=0 If you have a probability curve for PHI. 0 to 360 such as you get from experimental phasing, A B C D mirror this bimodal curve better .. On Fri, 9 Feb 2024 at 09:58, Nitin Kulhar <

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser 2.8.3: Hendrickson-Lattman coefficients generated from dataset lacking anomalous signal

2024-02-09 Thread Nitin Kulhar
Dear sir Thank you for clearing that. I checked back to see that HLC/D are invariably 0 for all reflections, with the non-zero HLA/B supposedly having been originated from the probability distribution of phases *calculated* by phaser. Hopefully, I have not misunderstood it. Thanks and regards

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser 2.8.3: Hendrickson-Lattman coefficients generated from dataset lacking anomalous signal

2024-02-08 Thread Randy John Read
Hi, Hendrickson-Lattman coefficients are just a way of storing phase probability information, and they can come from different sources including atomic models. Phaser puts in HL coefficients because they could be handy under some circumstances for combining the phase information from

[ccp4bb] Phaser 2.8.3: Hendrickson-Lattman coefficients generated from dataset lacking anomalous signal

2024-02-08 Thread Nitin Kulhar
Dear all Is anomalous diffraction necessary for determining experimental phases and the Hendrickson-Lattman coefficients (HLA, HLB, HLC, and HLD)? MR solution from Phaser 2.8.3 (interfaced in ccp4 8.0.000 suite) seems to be generating HLA/B/C/D coefficients from an x-ray diffraction dataset.

Re: [ccp4bb] phaser-MR warning

2021-03-30 Thread Paul Emsley
On 31/03/2021 04:37, rohit kumar wrote: I tried to remove H atoms in pdbcur in ccp4 but still there are lots of HD and HH atoms present in the pdb. Could anyone please suggest how to fix this problem. PDBCUR would want to use the element column in order to identify that the atom is a Hydrogen

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser Warning Message

2020-06-17 Thread Randy Read
Thanks to Damian for the clear explanation! Just a bit more background. Airlie put this feature in because, with small fragments such as helices (which our collaborator Isabel Usón uses in ARCIMBOLDO), the initial translation function scores are often higher for trials where symmetry-related

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser Warning Message

2020-06-16 Thread Damian Ekiert
Hi Silvia, Looking at the end of the log file, it looks like you have a very clear solution and are ready to go! This message means that a better solution from the Fast Translation Function was excluded because it failed the packing test (too many clashes with neighboring molecules).

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser MR pairwise percent packing criterion

2017-02-17 Thread Randy Read
Hi, The old approach of counting the number of clashes was changed to the percentage of trace atoms (typically CA atoms) involved in clashes largely because, as people like Eleanor pointed out to us, the number of clashes grows with the size of the problem and solutions can be rejected when

[ccp4bb] Phaser MR pairwise percent packing criterion

2017-02-17 Thread Xiao Lei
Dear CCP4bb members, I found in the newer CCP4 Phaser MR version (I use CCP4 7.0.0 in Win7), there is no "allow maximal clash..." option anymore. There are only two options "pairwise percent packing" and "accept all solutions". I used to increase the number in the "allow maximal clash" (let's

Re: [ccp4bb] phaser

2017-01-06 Thread Randy Read
Hi, The syntax of the PACK command has changed, but the commands generated by the GUI have also changed in synch, so this problem shouldn't normally arise. Our best guess is that the user is attempting to rerun an old job, and ccp4i is getting confused when trying to interpret the saved old

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser: tNCS present but correction not applied

2016-11-26 Thread Eleanor Dodson
That is a very high nTCS vector (78% of the origin. Are you sure your unit cell isny doubled ie cell is not 94.2073 148.003 72.9967 90 97.6686 90 But 47.136 148 7390 98 90 What does pointless suggest for theSG Eleanor On 26 November 2016 at 18:56, KAUSHIK H.S. <

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser: tNCS present but correction not applied

2016-11-26 Thread KAUSHIK H.S.
Dear Dr. Read, For the first time, Phaser gave the following warning.XXXWarning: Input/Default tNCS NMOL (2) does not match suggested NMOL (4): Please check cell content analysis and tNCS to confirm NMOL Warning: tNCS is present but correction factors NOT applied XXX Hence, I set NMOL=4

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser: tNCS present but correction not applied

2016-11-26 Thread Randy Read
Hi, That message should mean that you didn't ask for a number of molecules divisible by the order of the tNCS. With that vector you need to search for an even number of copies. Let me know if that doesn't explain what you're saying. Best wishes, Randy Read Randy J. Read > On 25 Nov

[ccp4bb] Phaser: tNCS present but correction not applied

2016-11-25 Thread KAUSHIK H.S.
Hello, I have a crystal in C2 spacegroup (94.2073 148.003 72.9967 90 97.6686 90) and Xtriage predicts 923 residues in ASU.  My protein could be anywhere between 95 to 110 residues long (assuming the terminals could be cleaved).  Using a homolog, Phaser gives me a solution with LLG=1072 and

[ccp4bb] Phaser solution and solvent content for arp warp

2015-06-29 Thread xaravich ivan
Hi everyone, I think I have finally got a solution in Phaser (screen shot attached) as the TFZ is 10. However the solution PDB has 30 molecules in it as the search model was an NMR solution. As I have 0.944 Angs resolution data pretty complete, I thought of building the initial model in ArpWarp.

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser solution and solvent content for arp warp

2015-06-29 Thread Keller, Jacob
Just throw your phaser-placed model into Buccaneer JPK From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of xaravich ivan Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 3:10 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Phaser solution and solvent content for arp warp Hi everyone, I think I

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser solution and solvent content for arp warp

2015-06-29 Thread Roger Rowlett
I think I would be tempted to chainsaw one of the ensemble chains of 2IT8 (they look very similar except for side-chain disposition) and use 1 or 2 of these as search models in a Phaser run. If this works, you should see good Z-values and the final result inspected in Coot should show good

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser going into infinite loop in Ample

2015-04-22 Thread Dale Tronrud
From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Randy Read [rj...@cam.ac.uk] Sent: 22 April 2015 09:04 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser going into infinite loop in Ample Hi Dale, It must actually be AMPLE deciding

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser going into infinite loop in Ample

2015-04-22 Thread Randy Read
Hi Dale, It must actually be AMPLE deciding how many copies to search for. Phaser will give you some information about how consistent the specified composition is with the Matthews volume, but it just searches for the number of copies that it's instructed to look for. We haven't put the

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser going into infinite loop in Ample

2015-04-22 Thread George Sheldrick
Dear Dale, Isabel Uson's ARCIMBOLDO-LITE works well for coiled coils and has the same resolution requirements (2.1A or better) as AMPLE because both use SHELXE to expand the solution. It also employs PHASER to place a small fragment but it is often sufficient to let it search for just two or

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser going into infinite loop in Ample

2015-04-22 Thread Claudia Millán Nebot
Dear Dale, as George points out, you may be interested in trying ARCIMBOLDO, as it has been successfully applied to coiled coil proteins recently, as in the case of Franke et al (2014) Open Biology, 4. p. 130172 or Sammito et al (2013) Nature Methods 10: 1099-1101 . Different models can be

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser going into infinite loop in Ample

2015-04-22 Thread Thomas, Jens
@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Randy Read [rj...@cam.ac.uk] Sent: 22 April 2015 09:04 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser going into infinite loop in Ample Hi Dale, It must actually be AMPLE deciding how many copies to search for. Phaser will give you some information about how consistent

[ccp4bb] Phaser going into infinite loop in Ample

2015-04-21 Thread Dale Tronrud
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 We are having a problem with AMPLE and hope someone can help. The protein is about 70 amino acids long and we suspect it forms a coiled-coil. Our previous attempts at molecular replacement have failed so we hoped that AMPLE, with its ability

Re: [ccp4bb] PHASER MR solution

2015-01-28 Thread Randy Read
Hi all, Actually, what I think has happened here is that Phaser has limited the resolution to what it estimated was needed to get a clear enough solution, and then the final refinement was carried out with all the data. The signal-to-noise is lower with limited data, but it’s a price that

Re: [ccp4bb] PHASER MR solution

2015-01-28 Thread Roger Rowlett
The Z-values may be marginal, but of course you should inspect the solution in Coot to see if the electron density makes sense, and the packing of the protein molecules in the unit cell (look at symmetry mates) is sensible. If this passes the sniff test, then you should clean up your model

Re: [ccp4bb] PHASER MR solution

2015-01-28 Thread Matthew Franklin
Hi Jeorge - Something seems to have changed for the worse in this MR run. In your earlier posting, where you failed to find a solution in P222, your log file had solutions with RFZ=23.4, generally a clear indication of a correct rotation function solution. (You didn't include this log file

Re: [ccp4bb] PHASER MR solution

2015-01-27 Thread jeorgemarley thomas
Thank you so much to all for your kind concern. Jeorge On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Kay Diederichs kay.diederi...@uni-konstanz.de wrote: Dear Jeorge, you'll find some information about this in http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/xdswiki/index.php/Space_group_determination . A

Re: [ccp4bb] PHASER MR solution

2015-01-26 Thread Kay Diederichs
Dear Jeorge, you'll find some information about this in http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/xdswiki/index.php/Space_group_determination . A practical and easy way is described in http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/xdswiki/index.php/Pointless HTH, Kay On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 11:24:27

Re: [ccp4bb] PHASER MR solution

2015-01-26 Thread Tim Gruene
Dear Jeorge, XDS make no claim to determine the SPACE GROUP but rather the LAUE GROUP, as only the latter is taken into account during data integration. This is definitely so during the indexing step (IDXREF.LP), but even in CORRECT, when systematic absences are sometimes indicated, XDS does not

Re: [ccp4bb] PHASER MR solution

2015-01-26 Thread Randy Read
Dear Jeorge, I can’t see anything in that output saying whether the systematic absences that would allow you to detect screw axes were covered in your data collection. In any case, it’s not necessary to reintegrate. All that happens when going from P222 to any one of the other 7 possible

[ccp4bb] PHASER warning

2014-11-28 Thread rohit kumar
Dear all, i am solving a structure of 2.5 A resolution by PHASER but every time i got this following warning. $TEXT:Warning: $$ Baubles Markup $$ - Large non-origin Patterson peak indicates that translational

Re: [ccp4bb] PHASER warning

2014-11-28 Thread Rebuffet Etienne
Dear Rohit, Are you sure about your space group? I think you should look at this first Hope it helps. Etienne Etienne Rebuffet, PhD Tel: +334 86 97 73 34 Laboratory of 'integrative Structural Chemical Biology (iSCB)' Cancer Research Center of Marseille (CRCM) CNRS UMR 7258; INSERM U 1068;

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser question, twinning, DIALS, suggestions welcome

2014-10-01 Thread Randy Read
Hi Jurgen, You could send me a logfile off-list, and maybe I would spot something in there. We’ve put some effort into putting more intelligence into the Phaser search, so that it adapts to the initial perceived difficulty of the problem in setting the initial parameters, and then adapts to

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser question, twinning, DIALS, suggestions welcome

2014-10-01 Thread Randy Read
Hi again, I should have mentioned that, if you have a good enough model, it’s often possible to solve the structure in P1. The molecular replacement solution will settle on one of the twin domains (or you may end up with more than one solution, related by the twin law(s)). Then the symmetry

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser question, twinning, DIALS, suggestions welcome

2014-10-01 Thread Graeme Winter
Dear Jurgen, Thanks for your interest in DIALS - we are working hard at the moment on testing the software and finding bugs (and fixing them!) and I would say right now it's not quite ready for the general user, but we do plan to make an alpha release of the software before the end of the year.

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser question, twinning, DIALS, suggestions welcome

2014-10-01 Thread Jurgen Bosch
Thanks Randy, so from your reply it seems that cutoff is differently treated. And if I interpret your email correctly it is better to provide Phaser with a truncated versus a full data set. I tried both cases, but I had assumed that if you restrict the resolution within Phaser it would be the

[ccp4bb] Phaser question, twinning, DIALS, suggestions welcome

2014-09-30 Thread Jurgen Bosch
Dear BB, or in particular Phaser developers :-) This must be part of British humor right (or was that the Canadian influence Randy) ? eLLG indicates that placement of ensemble ensemble_1 will be straightforward The data are sufficient to exceed the eLLG target The search space is finite 143

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser MR problem

2014-09-20 Thread Randy Read
Just to add to what Herman said: The statistics are good for placing the domain represented by ensemble 1 (TFZ=14.3) and the first copy of the domain represented by ensemble 2 (TFZ=11.9), but not for the two possible solutions for placing the second copy of ensemble 2 (TFZs of 4.5 and 4.7).

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser MR problem

2014-09-20 Thread Mark van Raaij
Or perhaps there is only 1 copy and more solvent than you expect? This is not that uncommon. On 20 Sep 2014 12:09, Randy Read rj...@cam.ac.uk wrote: Just to add to what Herman said: The statistics are good for placing the domain represented by ensemble 1 (TFZ=14.3) and the first copy of

[ccp4bb] Phaser MR problem

2014-09-19 Thread Veerendra KUMAR (IMCB)
Dear CCP4 members, Recently I have collected native data at 3.3 A resolution. The structure of the protein should have two domains. The structure of c terminal domain from homologous (30 seq similarity) is known. I took n terminal domain from another homologous protein. I ran the phaser using

[ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] phaser issue MR

2014-06-03 Thread Almudena Ponce Salvatierra
Salvatierra maps.fa...@gmail.com Date: 2014-06-03 9:49 GMT+02:00 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] phaser issue MR To: Airlie McCoy ajm...@cam.ac.uk Dear Airlie, don't worry, actually it was you who gave me the clue when you told me what the error was standing for. I will try to be a clear as possible: 1

Re: [ccp4bb] [ccp4bb] phaser issue MR

2014-06-03 Thread Randy Read
to misunderstandings at the end. Best wishes, Have a nice day. Almudena -- Forwarded message -- From: Almudena Ponce Salvatierra maps.fa...@gmail.com Date: 2014-06-03 9:49 GMT+02:00 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] phaser issue MR To: Airlie McCoy ajm...@cam.ac.uk Dear Airlie

[ccp4bb] phaser issue MR

2014-06-02 Thread Almudena Ponce Salvatierra
Dear all, I am using Phaser for Molecular replacement. After Phaser places part of the structure, I would like to run it again, giving this time as search ensembles new pieces of structure. I thought what I had to do was simply to put in know solution the .sol file coming out from the previous

[ccp4bb] Phaser segmentation fault (core dump)

2014-03-24 Thread de Waal, Parker
Hello Everyone, I'm trying to using Phaser to perform molecular replacement, however each time I run my input script Phaser ends with a segmentation fault. Here is the error phaser0.inp: line 29: 1414 Segmentation fault (core dumped) phaser EOF My input script can be found here:

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Phaser output problem

2013-12-16 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Looks like you need to search for more molecules. Best, Herman Von: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] Im Auftrag von Amanda Blythe Gesendet: Montag, 16. Dezember 2013 11:46 An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: [ccp4bb] Phaser output problem I am trying to solve a structure

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Phaser output problem

2013-12-16 Thread Eleanor Dodson
like you need to search for more molecules. Best, Herman *Von:* CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] *Im Auftrag von *Amanda Blythe *Gesendet:* Montag, 16. Dezember 2013 11:46 *An:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK *Betreff:* [ccp4bb] Phaser output problem I am trying to solve

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser question

2013-12-06 Thread Randy Read
Just to follow up on this: The enormous increase between the TFZ= and TFZ== numbers is surprising, so I focused on that in my original answer to Fred's question. However, if anyone wants to know the difference between these, it's documented on this web page:

[ccp4bb] Phaser question

2013-12-05 Thread vellieux
Hiyya all, I have a question about the latest Phaser output, concerning TFZ = and TFZ == . I do not know how to interpret outputs of the type TFZ = 5.2 TFZ == 54.1; TFZ = 5.8 TFZ == 63.0; TFZ = 6.4 TFZ == 19.7 (these are real TFZ figures coming from Phaser log files). I used to analyse

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser question

2013-12-05 Thread Randy Read
Hi Fred, Send me the logfiles (off-line), because this shouldn't be happening and I'd like to have a look. That said, we've been seeing some similar problems in certain circumstances, i.e. B-factor refinement refines to significant negative B-factor values, and data at high resolution have

[ccp4bb] Phaser output in QtRView under Windows XP

2013-12-04 Thread Derek Logan
Hi, I need (reluctantly!) to install CCP4 on 20 fairly ancient Windows XP machines for a course. I have installed CCP4 on a central server with network-mounted drive and applied all the updates. CCP4 is then runnable on the individual computers. However when I run a Phaser job the output in

[ccp4bb] Phaser gives error in 6.4.0 version

2013-10-26 Thread S. Karthikeyan
Dear All, Installed the CCP4 6.4.0 version recently on CentoS 5. When I try to run phaser I get the following error. Apparently I can reproduce the error for different reflection file. This happens after getting the rotation, translation and packing function. Any suggestions to this problem

Re: [ccp4bb] phaser 2.5.2 in ccp4 6.3.0 does not output Hendrickson Lattman coefficients

2013-07-03 Thread Randy Read
Dear Petr, Presumably you're just talking about Phaser for molecular replacement, because Phaser still produces HL coefficients for SAD phasing. There were two major reasons we made this change. First, the presence of HL coefficients can fool some programs into thinking that you have

Re: [ccp4bb] phaser 2.5.2 in ccp4 6.3.0 does not output Hendrickson Lattman coefficients

2013-07-03 Thread Petr Leiman
Dear Randy, Thank you for your quick response. Obviously, you have given this a lot of thought. I would like to have the HL coefficients in the phaser output file for downstream compatibility with density modification programs such as resolve. Thank you, Petr On 07/03/2013 10:46 AM, Randy

[ccp4bb] phaser 2.5.2 in ccp4 6.3.0 does not output Hendrickson Lattman coefficients

2013-07-02 Thread Petr Leiman
I have just found out that phaser v. 2.5.2 in ccp4 6.3.0-021 does not output columns with HL coefficients. I cannot find a combination of buttons in CCP4i GUI to enable this extremely useful feature. This is the first time I tried phaser in the latest CCP4 release and I am shocked this problem

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser MR with partial solution, 8 molecules/ASU

2012-10-31 Thread Eleanor Dodson
On the whole it is good practice to refine the 7 molecules you have - correct sequence etc etc, all with NCS restraints a 3A, then if you like use one of your improved molecules as the search model. But don't you have some NC symmetry such as dimers or tetramers - if so take one of the complete

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser MR with partial solution, 8 molecules/ASU

2012-10-30 Thread Mark J van Raaij
if you are sure about it's position, why not put the 8th molecule by hand? why believe what a program does more than you can see by eye? (this is nothing against Phaser, it is a great program) Mark J van Raaij Laboratorio M-4 Dpto de Estructura de Macromoleculas Centro Nacional de Biotecnologia -

[ccp4bb] Phaser and space groups

2012-08-20 Thread Jan Abendroth
Hi all, we have been running into a space group issue when we start phaser (2.5.1) through ccp4i since the installation of ccp4-6.3.0: We typically scale data in the point group and then let Phaser go through various space groups. Even though the corresponding line appears in the input file

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser and space groups

2012-08-20 Thread Randy Read
Hi, As of last week, this is a known bug (defined as one where I got around to adding it to the list on our Phaser Wiki). It has been fixed in the latest nightly builds of Phenix, and a new executable will be released through CCP4 in a few weeks, coordinated with the next stable release of

Re: [ccp4bb] phaser with MR------search ensemble

2012-08-15 Thread Eleanor Dodson
The ensemble should be a set of coordinates Eleanor On 15 Aug 2012, at 04:42, 李华 wrote: Dear ccp4er, I try to use Phaser MR to solve a structure. A mtz file from oasis was used as a ensemble. All of the parameters containing protein MW, nucleic acid MW, extent of X, Y, Z and center of

Re: [ccp4bb] phaser with MR------search ensemble

2012-08-15 Thread Randy Read
No, it's possible also to specify a model in the form of the molecular transform in an MTZ file, derived either from coordinates or a density map. I see that I failed to Reply all in my earlier reply to this email, which was the following: = Does the MTZ file from oasis contain electron

[ccp4bb] 答复: [ccp4bb] phaser with MR------search ensemble

2012-08-15 Thread 张涛
, but not OASIS - PHASER. Or do you have some special idea? Zhang, Tao 发件人: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] 代表 李华 发送时间: 2012年8月15日 11:42 收件人: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK 主题: [ccp4bb] phaser with MR--search ensemble Dear ccp4er, I try to use Phaser MR to solve

[ccp4bb] phaser with MR------search ensemble

2012-08-14 Thread 李华
Dear ccp4er, I try to use Phaser MR to solve a structure. A mtz file from oasis was used as a ensemble. All of the parameters containing protein MW, nucleic acid MW, extent of X, Y, Z and center of X, Y, Z and RMS error were assigned. However, when I ran phaser mr, the program complain

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser Fatal runtime error.

2012-06-28 Thread Stephen Carr
(MRC,RAL,RCAH) Cc: ccp4bb Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser Fatal runtime error. We have an in-house Agilent (Oxford) system and routinely use data with CCP4. You will need to run sortmtz, scala (w/constant scale), and truncate to prep the data properly. This can be done via batch file or GUI.You may

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser Fatal runtime error.

2012-06-27 Thread Jan Dohnalek
Data from Crysalis in mtz format are not merged I think - you have to go through the scale and merge step in Scala first ... Jan Dohnalek On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Steiner, Roberto roberto.stei...@kcl.ac.uk wrote: Don't know where the exact problem is. However, it is definitely

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser Fatal runtime error.

2012-06-27 Thread Tadeusz Skarzynski
From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Jan Dohnalek Sent: 27 June 2012 07:30 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser Fatal runtime error. Data from Crysalis in mtz format are not merged I think - you have to go through the scale and merge step in Scala

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser Fatal runtime error.

2012-06-27 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I suspect you didn't request the FreeR assignment on the TRUNCATE interface? This calls amongst other programs, CAD and CAD makes sure that the reflection list is unique and that it is in a standard asymmetric unit. Most people do it by default so don't hit these problems... I suggest you just

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser Fatal runtime error.

2012-06-27 Thread Airlie McCoy
Just to be clear, Phaser does not require the reflections to be in a standard asymmetric unit, only that they are unique (as the error message thrown says). Airlie On Jun 27 2012, Eleanor Dodson wrote: I suspect you didn't request the FreeR assignment on the TRUNCATE interface? This calls

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser Fatal runtime error.

2012-06-27 Thread Roger Rowlett
We have an in-house Agilent (Oxford) system and routinely use data with CCP4. You will need to run sortmtz, scala (w/constant scale), and truncate to prep the data properly. This can be done via batch file or GUI.You may also have to reset/reassign the space group for some space groups due to an

[ccp4bb] Phaser Fatal runtime error.

2012-06-26 Thread Stephen Carr
Dear CCP4bb I have collected a data-set using the supernova x-ray generator from Agilent and taken the mtz file generated by the data processing software in crysalis pro forward for structure solution. The data collection was straight forward and the software seemingly processed the data

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser Fatal runtime error.

2012-06-26 Thread Steiner, Roberto
Don't know where the exact problem is. However, it is definitely possible to use a Crysalis-Scala-Truncate-Phaser pipeline without runtime errors. I have done a few times. I am sure you will be able to get help from Agilent people. If not, feel free to get back to me. Best Roberto On 26 Jun

[ccp4bb] Phaser - changing number of clashes parameter

2012-06-20 Thread Santarsiero, Bernard D.
The new CCP4I interface for PHASER removed the menu item where you could change the number of clashes. It's not set as a default to 5% of the number of C-alpha atoms. Where is the default file? I found the phaser_MR.def file in share/ccp4i/tasks, and changed the parameter value, but it still used

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser - changing number of clashes parameter

2012-06-20 Thread Roger Rowlett
If you install the .tcl update from the CCP4 site, you will find the clash menu setting under advanced options, IIRC. Roger Rowlett On Jun 20, 2012 6:08 PM, Santarsiero, Bernard D. b...@uic.edu wrote: The new CCP4I interface for PHASER removed the menu item where you could change the number of

Re: [ccp4bb] phaser: high z score but no sol

2012-04-20 Thread Herman . Schreuder
, 2012 8:20 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] phaser: high z score but no sol Hi all, I am trying to solve one structure by molecular replacement with phaser in CCP4. This a complex of a multi-domain domains with small ligand. I

Re: [ccp4bb] phaser: high z score but no sol

2012-04-20 Thread Bosch, Juergen
Subject: [ccp4bb] phaser: high z score but no sol Hi all, I am trying to solve one structure by molecular replacement with phaser in CCP4. This a complex of a multi-domain domains with small ligand. I have structues of this protein in apo state and with other similar ligand. The space group

Re: [ccp4bb] phaser: high z score but no sol

2012-04-20 Thread Francis E Reyes
P21.. You sure about this space group? (very high confidences for space group and laue group in pointless?) F On Apr 19, 2012, at 12:20 AM, LISA wrote: Hi all, I am trying to solve one structure by molecular replacement with phaser in CCP4. This a complex of a multi-domain domains

[ccp4bb] phaser: high z score but no sol

2012-04-19 Thread LISA
Hi all, I am trying to solve one structure by molecular replacement with phaser in CCP4. This a complex of a multi-domain domains with small ligand. I have structues of this protein in apo state and with other similar ligand. The space group of this crystal is P21. This crystal should have 4

Re: [ccp4bb] phaser: high z score but no sol

2012-04-19 Thread Vellieux Frederic
Hi, If you have the correct solution, clashes may be due to loops. It may be an idea to clip these off for the molecular replacement calculations (loops might be shorter in the structure-to-be-solved than in the search model, they may have different conformations in the

Re: [ccp4bb] phaser: high z score but no sol

2012-04-19 Thread Randy Read
Hi, My first guess would be that this crystal possesses translational NCS, and that you're using the old (distributed with current old CCP4) version of Phaser that can't handle tNCS. You can tell if this is the case by looking at whether there's a large off-origin peak in the native Patterson

Re: [ccp4bb] phaser: high z score but no sol

2012-04-19 Thread Ed Pozharski
As Randy pointed out, you should check Patterson map for off-origin peaks. There is also a small chance that you actually have P2 - systematic absences may result from tNCS nearly colinear with crystallographic axis. On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 14:20 +0800, LISA wrote: Hi all, I am trying to solve

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser problem child killed: segmentation violation in phaser

2011-12-01 Thread Randy Read
This was resolved offline. It turns out that there's an obscure bug in Phaser triggered if you search for the same model twice as an alternative for itself (e.g. SEARCH ENSEMBLE ensemble1 OR ENSEMBLE ensemble1 NUM 1). When the input was fixed (SEARCH ENSEMBLE ensemble1 NUM 1), Phaser didn't

[ccp4bb] Phaser problem child killed: segmentation violation in phaser

2011-11-29 Thread Sita Ram Meena
Hi CCP4 community. While running the Phaser in the CCP4 GUI, It was terminated and giving the error message. #CCP4I TERMINATION STATUS 0 child killed: segmentation violation #CCP4I VERSION CCP4Interface 2.0.6 CCP4 Version ccp4-6.1.13 Thanks in advance. Sita Ram

Re: [ccp4bb] phaser openmp

2011-11-09 Thread Randy Read
Thanks for pointing out that link. The graph makes the point I was going to mention, i.e. that you notice a big difference in using up to about 4 processors for typical jobs, but after that point the non-parallelisable parts of the code start to dominate and there's less improvement. This is

Re: [ccp4bb] phaser openmp

2011-11-09 Thread Pascal
Le Tue, 8 Nov 2011 16:25:22 -0800, Nat Echols nathaniel.ech...@gmail.com a écrit : On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Francois Berenger beren...@riken.jp wrote: In the past I have been quite badly surprised by the no-acceleration I gained when using OpenMP with some of my programs... :( You

Re: [ccp4bb] phaser openmp

2011-11-09 Thread Francois Berenger
On 11/09/2011 07:21 PM, Pascal wrote: Le Tue, 8 Nov 2011 16:25:22 -0800, Nat Echolsnathaniel.ech...@gmail.com a écrit : On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Francois Berengerberen...@riken.jp wrote: In the past I have been quite badly surprised by the no-acceleration I gained when using OpenMP

[ccp4bb] [gsheldr: Re: [ccp4bb] phaser openmp]

2011-11-09 Thread George M. Sheldrick
-- Prof. George M. Sheldrick FRS Dept. Structural Chemistry, University of Goettingen, Tammannstr. 4, D37077 Goettingen, Germany Tel. +49-551-39-3021 or -3068 Fax. +49-551-39-22582 ---BeginMessage--- In my experience, writing efficient multithreaded code is much harder than writing efficient

[ccp4bb] phaser openmp

2011-11-08 Thread Ed Pozharski
Could anyone point me towards instructions on how to get/build parallelized phaser binary on linux? I searched around but so far found nothing. The latest updated phaser binary doesn't seem to be parallelized. Apologies if this has been resolved before - just point at the relevant thread,

Re: [ccp4bb] phaser openmp

2011-11-08 Thread Dr G. Bunkoczi
Hi Ed, in the CCP4 distribution, openmp is not enabled by default, and there seems to be no easy way to enable it (i.e. by setting a flag at the configure stage). On the other hand, you can easily create a separate build for phaser that is openmp enabled and use phaser from there. To do this,

Re: [ccp4bb] phaser openmp

2011-11-08 Thread Nat Echols
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Francois Berenger beren...@riken.jp wrote: In the past I have been quite badly surprised by the no-acceleration I gained when using OpenMP with some of my programs... :( Amdahl's law is cruel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl's_law This is the same reason

Re: [ccp4bb] phaser openmp

2011-11-08 Thread Ed Pozharski
See page 3 of this http://www-structmed.cimr.cam.ac.uk/phaser/ccp4-sw2011.pdf On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 09:22 +0900, Francois Berenger wrote: Hello, How faster is the OpenMP version of Phaser versus number of cores used? In the past I have been quite badly surprised by the no-acceleration

Re: [ccp4bb] phaser

2011-11-07 Thread Eleanor Dodson
The new Phaser GUI does not seem to let me reset the number of clashes for the packing search? Is there something I have missed? Eleanor

Re: [ccp4bb] phaser

2011-11-07 Thread Randy Read
Hi Eleanor, I think you should find it in the Additional Parameters section, second line, labelled Packing criterion. The default (chosen largely because you had been asking for something like this!) is to allow a number of clashes equal to 5% of the number of residues. Let me know if it

[ccp4bb] Phaser: ensemble not set

2011-10-28 Thread ROS
Subject: Phaser: ensemble not set Hello: I try to use Phaser under MR. The program complain: ensemble not set. The ensemble box keeps blank and does not allow to click. I use: ccp4-6.2.0 Window Vista Business Thanks for advice ROS

[ccp4bb] phaser 2.3.0 floating point exception

2011-09-06 Thread Petr Leiman
Dear Randy and the Phaser team, Phaser 2.3.0 brought us several enhancement, but similar to Alexander Schiffer's experience, Phaser has failed several times now with a floating point exception error at different stages of automated MR: it has stopped in the beginning of RF and then in a new

Re: [ccp4bb] phaser 2.3.0 floating point exception

2011-09-06 Thread Randy Read
Dear Petr, Yes, please do send the log files, MTZ file and anything else needed to run the job that shows the problem, so we can track it down. It's probably best to send them off-line. We couldn't reproduce Alexander's problem, but he tells me that it only occurs when the script is started

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser 2.3.0

2011-09-01 Thread Randy Read
Hi, Could you send me some representative logfiles (probably off-list)? This might give a hint. It must be something unusual, because we have a fairly wide range of test cases and none of them have any problems. Thanks and best wishes, Randy Read On 1 Sep 2011, at 14:58,

Re: [ccp4bb] phaser problem

2011-08-29 Thread Randy Read
Hi Amir, When this error was reported before, it turned out that the sequence file used to define the composition had the one-letter code Z (presumably for Se-Met), which Phaser-2.1.4 doesn't recognise. I'm not sure what the newer versions in CCP4 and Phenix would do with this, but at the

[ccp4bb] phaser problem

2011-08-28 Thread Amir Khan
Hi Has anyone a solution to the following problem with Phaser (version 2.1.4)? UNHANDLED ERROR: basic_string::_S_create It seems to be data and model independent – there was an old thread from earlier this year, but I cannot find a follow-up. Thanks! Amir

[ccp4bb] phaser openmp

2011-08-19 Thread Jochen Kuper
Dear all, it would be really great if someone could point out to me how to enable the openmp option for phaser during the compilation of the latest ccp4 release. The system will be a SUSE 11.3 64bit using gcc. Cheers, Jochen

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser and Molrep gave different solutions

2011-07-25 Thread Hubing Lou
...@gmail.com *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK *Sent:* Thu, July 21, 2011 6:39:49 AM *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser and Molrep gave different solutions I was worried as well with the low TFZ score. Usually successful cases with score 8. I am still puzzled why Phaser and Molrep gave different

Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser and Molrep gave different solutions

2011-07-25 Thread ccp4
-- *From:* Hubing Lou louhub...@gmail.com *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK *Sent:* Thu, July 21, 2011 6:39:49 AM *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser and Molrep gave different solutions I was worried as well with the low TFZ score. Usually successful cases with score 8. I am still puzzled why Phaser

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