Re: [Community-Discuss] Incorrect Public Listing of Members' Standing

2015-11-24 Thread Alan Barrett
invoices did not understand that some unpaid invoices are normal, when the invoices are not yet due for payment. It therefore marked almost all members as “not in good standing”. The software issue will be corrected as soon as possible. Alan Barrett CEO, AFRINIC

Re: [Community-Discuss] [AFRINIC-Announce] Call for Nominations for AFRINIC Board

2016-04-13 Thread Alan Barrett
the nomination form (which has different requirements from last year), uncertainty about whether or not self-nominations were allowed (no, in accordance with the bylaws, but different from last year), and confusion regarding the timeline. Alan Barrett ___

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] [AFRINIC-Announce] Call for Nominations for AFRINIC Board

2016-04-14 Thread Alan Barrett
xperience and I think that this > drastic variation (from more than 30 days to 8) is not helping. > I will suggest to extend for even 10 days. I agree that an extension would be a good idea. I have already suggested to NomCom that they consider

Re: [Community-Discuss] [AFRINIC-Announce] Call for Nominations for AFRINIC Board

2016-04-16 Thread Alan Barrett
om is free to prescribe criteria and qualifications that are different from the previous year. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Resolutions for the next AfriNIC meeting

2016-04-27 Thread Alan Barrett
Board of Trustees > on all matters involving the interests, activities, andexpected to consider > the long term best interests of the membership, and to take cognisance of the > fact that AfriNIC is acting in the public trust as steward of limited public > resources such as IP address spa

Re: [Community-Discuss] About NRO NC discuss

2016-05-05 Thread Alan Barrett
2015#r255>, the Board recommended to the community that the same two people elected to the NRO NC should also automatically serve on the Review Committee. There was a discussion about that at the public meeting in Pointe Noire, and the community supported the Board’s recom

Re: [Community-Discuss] About NRO NC discuss

2016-05-06 Thread Alan Barrett
ld expect final > decision from the Board after the online various discussions, thus my > confusion. Oh, I see. I think that the Board should pass another resolution to finalise the matter. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Disc

[Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment

2016-06-10 Thread Alan Barrett
). Alan Barrett CEO, AFRINIC AFRINICRIRAccountabilityAssessment-Suggestions-20160609.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment

2016-06-16 Thread Alan Barrett
ovember 2016 for that purpose, and perhaps we’ll wait until May/June 2017. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment

2016-06-17 Thread Alan Barrett
> On 16 Jun 2016, at 22:41, Noah wrote: > > Hence my question is specifically about current ongoing process which is > seeking over all community consultation and not members only. Comments are welcome from the community, but approval of bylaws changes is by the members.

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment

2016-06-17 Thread Alan Barrett
ose a change, and it must be approved by 75% vote by the members. Board members are free to initiate policy proposals or bylaw chanegs, just like anybody else. I would argue that proposing sensible changes is part of their job. Alan Barrett ___ Comm

Re: [Community-Discuss] post ipv4 depletion frauds, brokers activities

2016-06-25 Thread Alan Barrett
taken? What bad practices is the RIR promoting? Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] Annual Reports 2014 and 2015 Missing

2016-06-25 Thread Alan Barrett
d by the end of July 2016. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] Annual Reports 2014 and 2015 Missing

2016-06-27 Thread Alan Barrett
in the delay, except to say that I am still learning the requirements, and we will try to do better in future. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC - Matters Arising

2016-07-11 Thread Alan Barrett
been pushed under the carpet, but I can point out that the new Governance Committee will have within its terms of reference the power to make recommendations about "The legal framework of AFRINIC, including the place and manner of company registration;” Alan Barrett ___

Re: [Community-Discuss] Fwd: AFRINIC - Matters Arising

2016-07-11 Thread Alan Barrett
drafted, received comments from the community, was edited to take comments into account, was approved by the community, and was approved by the Board. The next step is to elect/appoint the members of the committee, and that is planned for the next AFRINIC meeting in November 2016. Ala

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Council of Elders

2016-07-12 Thread Alan Barrett
f date. There have been no changes to the CoE since the page was last edited. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Council of Elders

2016-07-13 Thread Alan Barrett
ping under the carpet of certain issues. Please state which issues have been swept under the carpet, and how. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

[Community-Discuss] Politeness and respect

2016-07-13 Thread Alan Barrett
Please could all participants in this mailing list treat each other with politeness and respect. Alan Barrett CEO, AFRINIC ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Council of Elders

2016-07-14 Thread Alan Barrett
plicit questions, which I answered on the members-discuss list. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Council of Elders

2016-07-14 Thread Alan Barrett
is ongoing. I expect it to be done by the end of 2016. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] Resolution 201604.274 about Set-Up fees

2016-07-14 Thread Alan Barrett
Marcus, Please conduct yourself politely. Messages such as the one quoted below have no place on AFRINIC mailing lists. Alan Barrett > On 14 Jul 2016, at 21:08, Marcus K. G. Adomey wrote: > > Dear Owen, > > I am happy to know that you are the PR or/and the lawyer of the boa

Re: [Community-Discuss] Resolution 201604.274 about Set-Up fees

2016-07-15 Thread Alan Barrett
t message was sent. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Council of Elders

2016-07-15 Thread Alan Barrett
> On 15 Jul 2016, at 11:21, Jackson Muthili wrote: > On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Alan Barrett > wrote: >> >> Don’t expect transcripts to be published at all. The Board has committed to >> publish minutes, but reserves the right to redact them before publicati

Re: [Community-Discuss] Another BOD Governance Issue

2016-07-22 Thread Alan Barrett
icipe in the discussions on the slate, but not vote. see below The minutes refer to approval of nominations, not approval of the slate. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] Another BOD Governance Issue

2016-08-01 Thread Alan Barrett
e discussed. She neither voted not recused herself, because she was not present at the time. In both cases, I believe that it was a mistake for the minutes to omit those facts. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.ne

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment

2016-09-10 Thread Alan Barrett
> On 9 Sep 2016, at 18:55, Arnaud AMELINA wrote: > > Hi CEO, > > Where do we stand in building the consensus on the bylaws changes? The comments made on this list have been noted, and are being incorporated into bylaws changes drafted by the AFRINIC legal adviser

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment

2016-09-10 Thread Alan Barrett
t; > > Do we have any timelines? I have already received a draft, but I have not yet reviewed it. I hope to complete my own review and then be able to post something next week. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Dis

[Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-09-16 Thread Alan Barrett
changes to the bylaws. In some cases, I have edited the legal adviser’s text. In some cases, more drafting work is needed and proposed text of bylaws changes is not yet available. I attach a document with the proposed bylaws changes. Alan Barrett CEO, AFRINIC AFRINICRIRAccountability

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-09-16 Thread Alan Barrett
tion to the points in your discussion document. Have these > points been considered ? Please list those items. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-09-16 Thread Alan Barrett
n’t know of any consolidated document which includes all the comments. Comments were made in various mailing lists, as well as off-list. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/lis

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-09-16 Thread Alan Barrett
accountability, and have a high probablility of passing the 75% majority vote, so I am proposing to clarify the wording around what most people already think is the case that Associate Members cannot vote. Alan Barrett signature.asc Description: Message s

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-09-16 Thread Alan Barrett
ts. It’s quite possible that I made mistakes. Pointing out the mistakes will be much more useful than asking questions about what happens in my mind while I am attempting to assess the opinion of the community. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discus

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-09-19 Thread Alan Barrett
mber that Bylaws changes need a 75% majority. Would adding geographical restrictions to the non-geographical seats have enough support to pass? Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-09-19 Thread Alan Barrett
n the room? remote participation? > > Sorry, the intention is definitely good, but I happen to have more > questions…. That’s a very good question. What would you like the answer to be? Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-09-19 Thread Alan Barrett
there’s some other reason for the Board to bypass the normal process. I’d suggest a simple vote, where the community can decide that the Board was wrong. Since it involves policy, it should probably be a vote of PDWG participants, not a vote of Members. Alan Barrett

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - committee

2016-09-21 Thread Alan Barrett
general meeting coming up in November, and bylaws changes can be passed as special resolutions, needing a 75% majority). Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-09-21 Thread Alan Barrett
rd of > directors and the secretariat. The off-list inputs consisted of people speaking to me in private, repeating things that had also been said on the list. I did not write down who said what. Alan Barrett signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - committee

2016-09-21 Thread Alan Barrett
of the total eligible voters required. Thanks. There were some good ideas in your email, and I will work on converting some of them to bylaws changes for consideration. The current quorum requirement is 10 members, which is too small, but I think 10% is too large. Alan Barrett _

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - committee

2016-09-21 Thread Alan Barrett
to have wide consultation and agreement before there is a vote on bylaws changes. This discussion is part of that process. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-09-22 Thread Alan Barrett
ing to advance the regional diversity > when Afrinic has 6 regions Yes, it’s true that a committee of 5 members cannot include a representative from all 6 sub-regions. I don’t see that as a problem. Alan Barrett ___ Community-

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-09-22 Thread Alan Barrett
ty to suggest changes to its own terms of reference, so it will have tha ability to request an increase in its own size. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-09-22 Thread Alan Barrett
rd can fix it now, by Vote of registered members ? The Board has the ability to change the terms of reference, but I hope it will not do so without consultation. The current terms of reference are the result of a consultation process, and the GC itself will be well placed to start another consult

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-09-22 Thread Alan Barrett
eliminate the risk of board choosing to do away with GC by a board > vote. > A governance and accountability commitment of Afrinic in its charter is in > public interest. The Governance Committee charter already prevents the Board from unilaterally voting to do

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - committee

2016-09-26 Thread Alan Barrett
an normalize this data and can use something > like the lowest or average number of members present to prescribe a > pragmatic number for our quorum requirement. Sure, I can get those numbers. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-09-26 Thread Alan Barrett
> On 26 Sep 2016, at 21:00, Benjamin Eshun wrote: > On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 8:52 AM, Alan Barrett > wrote: > > Yes, it’s true that a committee of 5 members cannot include a representative > from all 6 sub-regions. I don’t see that as a problem. > > I see alot of pro

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment

2016-09-27 Thread Alan Barrett
I sent the message within the week, as promised. Here’s a link to my message: <https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2016-September/000638.html>. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - quorum

2016-09-27 Thread Alan Barrett
> On 26 Sep 2016, at 22:00, Alan Barrett wrote: > > >> On 26 Sep 2016, at 18:22, Douglas Onyango wrote: >> >> Hi Alan, >>> The current quorum requirement is 10 members, which is too small, but I >>> think 10% is too large. >> >&g

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - quorum

2016-09-29 Thread Alan Barrett
think that limit applies to anything else. I agree that we should discuss it. Let’s hear whether people think there should be limits, and if so, what the limits should be. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net h

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - quorum

2016-09-29 Thread Alan Barrett
s to > all elections. > > === > 12.12 Proxies > > (viii) No member entitled to vote during an election held by the > Company shall carry more than five (5) proxies during the said election > =======

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - quorum

2016-09-29 Thread Alan Barrett
s. > If we thought it important enough to enshrine in the bye laws we should > extend it to all voting processes. If we have proxy limits at all, then I think that they should be applied equally to all relevant situations (determining quorum, and any vote my Members). However, I am not co

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - quorum

2016-09-29 Thread Alan Barrett
(which is an AFRINIC construct that is not reflected in the Companies Act). Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - quorum

2016-09-29 Thread Alan Barrett
that we have been consistent: the rights assigned by the Act to shareholders apply only to Registered Members, unless the Bylaws also assign those rights to other categories of members. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discu

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - quorum

2016-09-29 Thread Alan Barrett
restrictions apply to elections by the Members (Resource Members and Registered Members). ASO-AC and PDWG elections are by the community or by the PDWG, not by the Members. Board elections and now Governance Committee elections are by the Members. Alan Barrett signature.asc Description: Message

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - quorum

2016-09-30 Thread Alan Barrett
n of > the number of proxies was introduced and voted by the community. > This provision of the bylaws would in no way withstand legal challenge as > suggested by > Andrew. Thank you for the advice. I suggest that the limit on pnumber of proxies should be removed. Alan Barrett _

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - quorum

2016-09-30 Thread Alan Barrett
> On 30 Sep 2016, at 18:59, Noah wrote: > > On 30 Sep 2016 15:26, "Alan Barrett" wrote: > > > > Thank you for the advice. I suggest that the limit on pnumber of proxies > > should be removed. > > > > Hi Alan, > > Ok what is going on

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - quorum

2016-09-30 Thread Alan Barrett
ction committee and require additional controls. Actually, removing the limit will simplify logistics, in that it will remove the need for the election committee to check how many proxies each person is carrying. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mai

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - quorum

2016-09-30 Thread Alan Barrett
entirely on electronic votes. Alan Barrett signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

[Community-Discuss] List reply-to address

2016-09-30 Thread Alan Barrett
On 30 Sep 2016, at 16:55, Seun Ojedeji wrote: > On 30 Sep 2016 13:25, "Alan Barrett" wrote: >> and I have asked for the mailing list configuration to be changed so that it >> does not automatically add a “Reply-To” header in future. > SO: I will suggest not to modif

[Community-Discuss] Successful IANA transition

2016-09-30 Thread Alan Barrett
and press releases, you will probably not notice much difference. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - quorum

2016-10-03 Thread Alan Barrett
Dear Andrew, I ask that you use more diplomatic words to express your opinions. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-10-03 Thread Alan Barrett
why are COE members not allowed to join GC, why > COE could not appoint a nominee to GC or for that matter why COE not used for > the GC. COE members are eligible to be elected to the Governance Committee by the AFRINIC Membership. They are not eligible to be appointed to the Governance

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

2016-10-04 Thread Alan Barrett
significant freedom in how they perform their task. When commenting on the suitability of any nominee or candidate, I would hope that people consider the role of the Governanc Committee as given in its charter, and the person’s ability to perform in

Re: [Community-Discuss] IPv6 Chapter 254

2016-10-13 Thread Alan Barrett
and considering the demand and other factors at the time replenish the exhaustion pool with whatever address space (or part thereof) that may be available to AFRINIC at the time, in a manner that is in the best interest of the community. ]]] Alan Barrett __

[Community-Discuss] Bylaws changes

2016-10-31 Thread Alan Barrett
Dear community, I expect to be able to post the next revision of the bylaws change suggestions on Friday 4 November. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bylaws changes

2016-11-04 Thread Alan Barrett
change to address a problem with approving the annual financial statements. I intend to propose all these bylaws changes as special resolutions at the AFRINIC-25 SGMM, possibly with edits resulting from further review and discussion. Alan Barrett AFRINICRIRAccountability-ProposedBylawsChanges

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bylaws changes

2016-11-04 Thread Alan Barrett
may hold more than one of these positions, even temporarily. > 17. (Intro) typos > s/dign/sign/ > s/signatire/signature/ > s/Baord/Board/ Thanks. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bylaws changes

2016-11-05 Thread Alan Barrett
t instead of a 2 month notice period, require presentation at > a PPM and on the appropriate -discuss mailing list(s) followed by a 60 day > comment period thereafter. I think you misunderstood the proposal. The proposal is that (1) the Board discusses proposed fee changes with the c

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bylaws changes

2016-11-05 Thread Alan Barrett
> good to clarify what would happen to the seats. I think it’s clear enough that the remaining Directors would have the right to fill the casual vacancies in terms of Bylaws article 13.14. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bylaws changes

2016-11-05 Thread Alan Barrett
to recall a > director, it must be through a dedicated meeting and not through the addition > of an agenda item at a regular meeting. I’ll check on that, and make a suitable chaneg if necessary. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailin

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bylaws changes

2016-11-09 Thread Alan Barrett
> On 5 Nov 2016, at 16:06, Alan Barrett wrote: >> On 5 Nov 2016, at 00:46, Andrew Alston >> wrote: >> I believe that section 16 is also in conflict with the companies act. The >> companies act specifically states that a director may only be removed in a >>

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bylaws changes

2016-11-09 Thread Alan Barrett
e > whoever they want represent them, provided the individual passes the test of > being able to legally serve in that capacity. I haven’t seen substantial discussion of this, so I will not propose changes around whether a Director must reside in the rel

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bylaws changes

2016-11-09 Thread Alan Barrett
>> period; (2) the Board finalises the fee changes; (3) there is at least 60 >> days notice before the fee changes go into effect. > > You are correct, I did misunderstand, as that’s not what I remember reading > in the proposal. > > I’m fine with what you state a

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bylaws changes

2016-11-09 Thread Alan Barrett
cised that power in the past, but the ability is there in the Bylaws in case a good reason appears in the future. We are talking about reducing that power so that the Board cannot abuse it. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Communi

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bylaws changes

2016-11-09 Thread Alan Barrett
in accordance with the Act if we still think we are > only governed by the Act. We are not “only” governed by the Act. We are governed by both the Act and our Bylaws. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https:

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bylaws changes

2016-11-09 Thread Alan Barrett
ws article 11.5 doesn’t say what happens if the policy is not endorsed, and doesn’t say how you measure whether or not a policy is endorsed. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bylaws changes

2016-11-09 Thread Alan Barrett
to prevent the Board from abusing the unusual process (Bylaws 11.4 and 11.5). My example (not quoted) was intended to illustrate why it is sometimes a good idea to let the Baord adopt policies that do not reach rough consensus. Alan Barrett ___ Com

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bylaws changes

2016-11-10 Thread Alan Barrett
vent that such a policy submitted by the Board is not endorsed, the said policy shall not be enforced or implemented following its non-endorsement; however, any actions taken in terms of the policy prior to such non-endorsement shall remain valid. Alan Barrett _

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bylaws changes

2016-11-11 Thread Alan Barrett
Dear community, Here is another revision of the proposed Bylaws changes. This might be the final version, because the notice of meeting needs to be sent no later than Tuesday 15 November. Alan Barrett AFRINICProposedBylawsChanges-2016.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bylaws changes

2016-11-11 Thread Alan Barrett
d. The text in (i) is already present in the bylaws. The text in (ii) is new. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bylaws changes

2016-11-11 Thread Alan Barrett
nt does not make it easy to follow and digest, but > other alternatives suggested were not accepted. I think you sugegsted a committee, and I said that the Governance Committee will be able to do this in future. The current round of changes are not a complete review of the bylaws. Alan Barrett

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bylaws changes

2016-11-11 Thread Alan Barrett
mmunity when > they had no say in the decision. I believe all views should be welcomed Good point. I will make this change. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bylaws changes

2016-11-11 Thread Alan Barrett
hanged, and there remains the risk that a future version of the PDP might (accidentally) make it impossible for useful new policies to be made. This is one of the reasons why it is essential for the Bylaws to give the Board a way of making policy bypassing the PDP. That power of t

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bylaws changes

2016-11-11 Thread Alan Barrett
ree-year period during which such person is not eligible to be elected or appointed to any of the seats referred to in Articles 13.4(i) or 13.4(ii). Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bylaws changes

2016-11-12 Thread Alan Barrett
rm limit? I don’t know the answer. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bylaws changes

2016-11-12 Thread Alan Barrett
ment for (rough) consensus is a construct of the PDP, and can be changed by adopting a new version of the PDP. It would not be appropriate for the Bylaws to rely on something that can be changed outside the Bylaws. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

[Community-Discuss] Limit on the number of proxies

2016-11-12 Thread Alan Barrett
people who are not members. The limit does not apply to proxies that are issued by Registered Members. The limit does not apply to proxies used during votes that are not elections. Again, the above is my current understanding of the situation, but it

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bylaws changes

2016-11-12 Thread Alan Barrett
t (ii) is new, and makes it clear that rejection by the community leads to the policy being cancelled. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bylaws changes

2016-11-12 Thread Alan Barrett
proposing to add that to the bylaws. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bylaws changes

2016-11-12 Thread Alan Barrett
e that no one organisation or one sub-region has the majority of votes in the Board. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bylaws changes

2016-11-12 Thread Alan Barrett
ector should also be excluded from discussion of the matter. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] Limit on the number of proxies

2016-11-12 Thread Alan Barrett
Act; * Keep the bylaws unchanged, and deal with any legal challenges if they arise. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bylaws changes

2016-11-13 Thread Alan Barrett
Article 13.4(i) and 13.5, all Directors so elected, shall exercise their powers in accordance with the Act and always act in good faith and solely in the best interests of the company. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discus

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bylaws changes

2016-11-13 Thread Alan Barrett
e chiuces made by future voters, so I do not intend to propose that as a rule for the Bylaws. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] Limit on the number of proxies

2016-11-13 Thread Alan Barrett
I don’t understand how we could keep electronic voting open for a few days after the meeting. How could we count the votes and announce the result if voting is still open? Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https:

Re: [Community-Discuss] Limit on the number of proxies

2016-11-14 Thread Alan Barrett
, and to close e-voting at the same time as on-site voting is closed. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] Limit on the number of proxies

2016-11-14 Thread Alan Barrett
> On 14 Nov 2016, at 14:54, Alan Barrett wrote: >> On 14 Nov 2016, at 13:17, Dewole Ajao wrote: >> >> Perhaps we could ask from the members what the concerns are with electronic >> voting that make them prefer proxies. These should be addressed (where >>

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Matters Arising - Further clarification

2016-11-14 Thread Alan Barrett
g are published at <http://www.afrinic.net/about/bod/meeting/2016/1937-20160810>. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] Limit on the number of proxies

2016-11-14 Thread Alan Barrett
> On 13 Nov 2016, at 10:20, Alan Barrett wrote: > > Three obvious possibilities are: > > * Remove the proxy limits; > > * Keep the proxy limits, but modify the wording of the bylaws to ensure that > the bylaws do not conflict with the Companies Act; > > * Keep

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bylaws changes

2016-11-14 Thread Alan Barrett
rovide a way of codifying my idea which is compatible with the > existing structure and interrelation of bylaws and PDP? Yes, I think that works, but the notice of meeting needs to be sent tomorrow, with final text for all proposed changes to the bylaws, and I am not comfortable making such a change without time for comments from others. It can always be proposed in the future. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

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