Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-29 Thread David D Odell
I suggest that cell phone records should be pulled in the event of an accident and if a cell was in use, within, say 5 minutes, of the incident, by ANYONE in the vehicle, that the driver should be considered, at the very least, negligent. This would apply to all vehicles involved. I remind you

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: I have SEEN Obama compared to a lot of things, but never a Mac. I was experiencing a silly moment. The equation I was trying to make was one of how expectations are often not met. Steve

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 1:27 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to think of when, Jobs has brought out a device to show the mac faithful, that when it was released a few months later it was different... The iPad was not brought out solely for the Mac faithful. That group is but one

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread Jordan
A new improved model could be called a Maxipad. :-) Perhaps because of its ability to absorb so much umdata. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread Jordan
phartz...@gmail.com wrote: It's simple: try this i (change), etc. The idea of Obama always was government for the rest of us. Too simple, and isn't working. Steve It's not working because he's not doing it. *

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com wrote: Too bad so far it is only a really big iPod Touch which is OK but it ain't a game changer. The bookreader is a color Kindle with higher prices BTW I meant Higher book prices. I think as soon as the Kindle app

[CGUYS] Quality vs the Easy Button [Was: Dreamweaver version correction]

2010-01-29 Thread tjpa
On Jan 28, 2010, at 10:38 PM, Tony B wrote: But for people that just want to manage some content in a modern CMS, it's virtually useless. Yes indeed. A tool like Dreamweaver is for people interested in producing a quality product. Modern CMS is IT speak for a low- quality sausage making

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread tjpa
On Jan 29, 2010, at 7:57 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: I was experiencing a silly moment. The equation I was trying to make was one of how expectations are often not met. M$ is already referring to it as a DeathPanel.

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread tjpa
On Jan 29, 2010, at 12:29 AM, b_s-wilk wrote: Dock isn't portable. Needs to be plugged in. What if I want to use a flash drive or SD card? Sleek and stylish? Not with a dock and a bunch of cables. Mine is a skinny little cable about 2 feet long. How is that not portable? And if both the

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread tjpa
On Jan 28, 2010, at 10:15 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: It is possible that this new device just unveiled may fail to meet Apple's own expectations as well as those of their prospective customers. A lot of folks are saying, After all the hype, this is it? Time will tell. The M$ minions are

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread mike
Gotta link? On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 7:27 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Jan 28, 2010, at 10:15 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: It is possible that this new device just unveiled may fail to meet Apple's own expectations as well as those of their prospective customers. A lot of folks are

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread tjpa
On Jan 29, 2010, at 9:01 AM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: I want to handle one with the form factor of two facing pages in a book like shape. I've only seen a kindle up close once and had a quick look at the NookEBook at a Barnes and Noble. The nook looked too small. The reason most books

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread tjpa
On Jan 28, 2010, at 8:39 PM, Constance Warner wrote: Don't be silly. All the items you cite are paired with something other than a single letter. So you object to the single letter? Now who is being silly? * ** List

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread mike
The fact this doesn't have any ports is just further proof this is really just a giant ipod touch. Another thing that I'm not sure has been addressed in general...if I have a kindle, and I buy an ipad..do I have to re-buy all those kindle books again? What if I buy a Nook and then a kindle? Are

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread tjpa
On Jan 28, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: On the last part we will have to disagree. As I type this on my netbook, with a video out, 3 USB ports, and a SD card reader built in. (6 hours battery with wifi.) Netbooks will be seen the 8-track tape players of the early 21st

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 9:25 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Jan 29, 2010, at 12:29 AM, b_s-wilk wrote: Dock isn't portable. Needs to be plugged in. What if I want to use a flash drive or SD card? Sleek and stylish? Not with a dock and a bunch of cables. Mine is a skinny little cable

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread mike
There were four or five formats called Octavio, I suppose keeping it the size of a 'book', Apple was bound to hit close to one of them. On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 7:47 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Jan 29, 2010, at 9:01 AM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: I want to handle one with the form factor

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread David D Odell
Is it just me or does the iPad (finally) look like the flatscreen tablets predicted in Kubrick's 2001? http://cecelia.physics.indiana.edu/life/chess.jpg * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives,

Re: [CGUYS] Quality vs the Easy Button [Was: Dreamweaver version correction]

2010-01-29 Thread Tony B
Only in the sense that anyone working for a newspaper needs to buy their own printing press to put out a quality product. I disagree. A few should, but the vast majority of writers shouldn't have to know anything at all about a printing press or CSS. If you can sit down at DW and design a good

[CGUYS] Bill Gates saves the world...well some of it

2010-01-29 Thread mike
http://www.gatesfoundation.org/press-releases/Pages/decade-of-vaccines-wec-announcement-100129.aspx Pledges 10 Billion dollars to vaccines, could save as many as 8 million kids. Has anyone ever even come close to doing this much good with their money?

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread Stewart Marshall
I am not interested in 3G I pay enough for hookups as it is right now (Phone, cable, Cell plan) that I will not pay for another plan. As nice as it would be no way. I just had to cancel what I hoped would be a good DSL connection because they can only top out at 4mps. The infrastructure will

[CGUYS] ipad vs Clarke

2010-01-29 Thread Tony B
Whoa. The book was written by Arthur C. Clarke, not Kubrick. It's been many years since I read it, but as I recall the thing in the picture you show wasn't a pad, it was the surface coating of the console itself - the paint, if you will. Probably not too far off, once flexible e-ink displays

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread mike
Or does it look like an HP tablet? On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 8:21 AM, David D Odell waffenf...@atlanticbb.netwrote: Is it just me or does the iPad (finally) look like the flatscreen tablets predicted in Kubrick's 2001? http://cecelia.physics.indiana.edu/life/chess.jpg

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread tjpa
On Jan 29, 2010, at 9:48 AM, mike wrote: The fact this doesn't have any ports is just further proof this is really just a giant ipod touch. Which is absolutely wonderful. The iPhone/iTouch have revolutionized how people use computers.

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread tjpa
Prediction: Business suits will start to have cargo pants pockets. Thomas Pink already sells ties with a Nano pouch. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread mike
I heard a tech reporter say 'who needs 3g, wifi is almost everywhere'. Where do these people live? On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: I am not interested in 3G I pay enough for hookups as it is right now (Phone, cable, Cell plan) that I will

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread Stewart Marshall
The problem I see is that we are being asked to pay dearly for connectivity and everyone wants a piece of the action. Buy a device pay for a connection plan. I do not want to do all that. I would like to consolidate some of my connection plans so I am not paying so much. Stewart At 09:45

[CGUYS] Consider Total Cost [Was: You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?]

2010-01-29 Thread tjpa
On Jan 29, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Stewart Marshall wrote: So at present I pay over $400 per month staying connected and you want me to add a 3G plan on top of that? If you lived in a higher rent district you would be getting connectivity of better quality and lower cost. But many of your other

Re: [CGUYS] Quality vs the Easy Button [Was: Dreamweaver version correction]

2010-01-29 Thread tjpa
On Jan 29, 2010, at 10:27 AM, Tony B wrote: Only in the sense that anyone working for a newspaper needs to buy their own printing press to put out a quality product. I disagree. A few should, but the vast majority of writers shouldn't have to know anything at all about a printing press or CSS.

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread tjpa
On Jan 29, 2010, at 10:45 AM, mike wrote: I heard a tech reporter say 'who needs 3g, wifi is almost everywhere'. Where do these people live? Near a McDonalds. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules,

Re: [CGUYS] Bill Gates saves the world...well some of it

2010-01-29 Thread tjpa
On Jan 29, 2010, at 10:33 AM, mike wrote: Has anyone ever even come close to doing this much good with their money? It is my and your money money. We were cheated out of it. * ** List info, subscription management,

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread Chris Dunford
Anyone who is not intrigued by the iPad is just showing a lack of imagination. OK, why don't you tell us what's so intriguing about a midsize touchscreen that has no HD, no widescreen, no camera, no USB, no memory card slots, and no GPS, that can only get music and video from iTunes, that can

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread Constance Warner
No, I'm not OBJECTING to anything. I'm just pointing out that for 50 + per cent of the population, calling something a pad without a modifier (word, adjective, etc.) up front (e.g. lily pad, launch pad, mattress pad) inevitably raises mental pictures of a certain kind. If anything, the

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread mike
Still waiting for you link... On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 9:04 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Jan 29, 2010, at 10:45 AM, mike wrote: I heard a tech reporter say 'who needs 3g, wifi is almost everywhere'. Where do these people live? Near a McDonalds.

Re: [CGUYS] Bill Gates saves the world...well some of it

2010-01-29 Thread mike
I knew Tom would be the first to complain about saving kids. BTW, it's not YOUR money or MINE...it's HIS...you gave it to him if you bought an MS product, he didn't take it. On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 9:02 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Jan 29, 2010, at 10:33 AM, mike wrote: Has anyone ever

Re: [CGUYS] Consider Total Cost [Was: You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?]

2010-01-29 Thread mike
So he shouldn't complain because you are willing to get raped? Makes sense. On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 9:08 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Jan 29, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Stewart Marshall wrote: So at present I pay over $400 per month staying connected and you want me to add a 3G plan on top of

Re: [CGUYS] Bill Gates saves the world...well some of it

2010-01-29 Thread Schmidt, Paul
Not on this scale, but the Newman Foundation seems to do pretty good too. -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com] On Behalf Of mike Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 10:33 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: [CGUYS] Bill

Re: [CGUYS] Consider Total Cost [Was: You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?]

2010-01-29 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
You do not know what I pay per month for my house. :-( My property taxes are lower I will admit that. Stewart At 10:08 AM 1/29/2010, you wrote: On Jan 29, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Stewart Marshall wrote: So at present I pay over $400 per month staying connected and you want me to add a 3G plan

Re: [CGUYS] Consider Total Cost [Was: You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?]

2010-01-29 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I have heard this schtick before Mike. What ends up being found out is that costs are level across the board. Where you might save in one area, you more for in another area. But here is the kicker. The wages are also usually lower in those low rent areas, so the net effect is less money.

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread Constance Warner
Amen to that. I'm concerned that the cost of basic participation in the workforce-- and in society--is going up, with every new device we're expected to acquire and support. For example, when I go in for my next job interview, will I be expected to have a smartphone, a blackberry, or

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread Reid Katan
Quoting David D Odell waffenf...@atlanticbb.net: Is it just me or does the iPad (finally) look like the flatscreen tablets predicted in Kubrick's 2001? I'm just wondering how long it will be 'til we're all poking and stroking our iDesks (a la LCARS http://www.lcarscom.net/). Tapping on

Re: [CGUYS] Consider Total Cost [Was: You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?]

2010-01-29 Thread tjpa
On Jan 29, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: It just gets frustrating being told well because you live there, you deserve what happens to you. Do you have a restricted travel permit that won't let you visit the big city? Bit it ain't all roses here either... Golden

Re: [CGUYS] Consider Total Cost [Was: You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?]

2010-01-29 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
No but I have a job that needs to be done here and I do have a limited travel budget. I do get to the city, but am usually busy with work at that location so I do not get to get out much. (Some of us do have to work for a living.) And yes we do have to worry about crime out here also.

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
Apple prefaced the names with I for internet, when most things internet were lower-case. Internet was shiny new for many consumers in the 1990's. They have continues with this branding. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread Stewart Marshall
Apple has fond a marketing niche with the i format. McDonald's has done it with the Mc format. (I read about a lawsuit recently where they are attempting to shut down a young ladies fund raising organization as it uses the Mc format for their name) It makes someone identify with them

Re: [CGUYS] Bill Gates saves the world...well some of it

2010-01-29 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
Too bad Gates didn't spend some of that money ten years ago to fight computer viruses' ability to attack Windows. He made that money selling Windows; a virus magnet. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com]

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread b_s-wilk
Still waiting for you link... I heard a tech reporter say 'who needs 3g, wifi is almost everywhere'. Where do these people live? Near a McDonalds. McDonald's WiFi will be free like obesity starting January -- Engadget

Re: [CGUYS] iPad ramification

2010-01-29 Thread chad evans wyatt
I firmly endorse your thoughts, Constance.  There is another consideration about Apple that has troubled me.  When it's important to the corporation, minorities provide entertainment content to rollouts, and dork white guys present substance.  Perhaps this is the same for other digital

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread tjpa
On Jan 29, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Chris Dunford wrote: OK, why don't you tell us what's so intriguing about a midsize touchscreen that has no HD, no widescreen, no camera, no USB, no memory card slots, and no GPS, that can only get music and video from iTunes, that can only run what the suits

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread katan
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:17:14 -0600, Stewart Marshall wrote: Apple has fond a marketing niche with the i format. McDonald's has done it with the Mc format. (I read about a lawsuit recently where they are attempting to shut down a young ladies fund raising organization as it uses the Mc format

Re: [CGUYS] ipad vs Clarke

2010-01-29 Thread David D Odell
On 1/29/2010 10:32:20 AM, ton...@gmail.com wrote: Whoa. The book was written by Arthur C. Clarke, not Kubrick. Of course the book was written by Clarke; but the movie, the source of the image, was by Kubrick. * ** List

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread mike
Some of us want a little less simple and a little more usefulness though. I have to ask, just how many hours do you have using the Android OS? On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 1:30 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: Most of my admiration for the iPad comes from the fact that I left that demo room with

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread mike
I meant a link regarding what Tom said about the 'ms minions rushing out to insist what people need is a windows..' Never really expected to get a link though so.. On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:56 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: Still waiting for you link... I heard a tech reporter say

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread tjpa
On Jan 29, 2010, at 3:37 PM, katan wrote: I'm gonna go with not so much. Especially in light of the Mad TV skit already pointing out the obvious. Surely *someone* at Apple had seen that already. It is a brilliant name. The radio program I'm listening to has spent the last hour talking

Re: [CGUYS] Bill Gates saves the world...well some of it

2010-01-29 Thread mike
Wow. No, really...WOW. He could be saving 8 million children and the mac fan bois are crying about a computer virus. On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote: Too bad Gates didn't spend some of that money ten years ago to fight computer viruses'

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread mike
Tom has his Apple goggles turned up extra special bright of late. On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 2:25 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Jan 29, 2010, at 3:37 PM, katan wrote: I'm gonna go with not so much. Especially in light of the Mad TV skit already pointing out the obvious. Surely *someone* at

Re: [CGUYS] iPad ramification

2010-01-29 Thread chad evans wyatt
Yes, that surely is the answer. --- On Fri, 1/29/10, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: From: mike xha...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] iPad ramification To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Friday, January 29, 2010, 4:28 PM Maybe they aren't applying for the job. On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:58

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread tjpa
On Jan 29, 2010, at 4:44 PM, mike wrote: Tom has his Apple goggles turned up extra special bright of late. WFBs are certainly riled up as Apple hits another home run. You can take your Zune home and sulk. * ** List

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
They have just come up to bat we will have to wait a few months to see how they swing and what type of ball has been hit. Back down a little and lets see how the filed goes. As of right now they are still debating how the home run king will do as he enters the batters box. (There will be the

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread b_s-wilk
Dock isn't portable. Needs to be plugged in. What if I want to use a flash drive or SD card? Sleek and stylish? Not with a dock and a bunch of cables. Mine is a skinny little cable about 2 feet long. How is that not portable? And if both the computer and iPad has bluetooth do I really want a

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread Chris Dunford
I will quote Andy Ihnatko of the Chicago Sun Times... Is it better to have a device that is loaded with bullet-pointable features? Being able to get your music from wherever you want is just a bullet point? Being able to run programs from whoever you want is just a bullet point?

Re: [CGUYS] ipad vs Clarke

2010-01-29 Thread b_s-wilk
David D Odell waffenf...@atlanticbb.net escribió: Whoa. The book was written by Arthur C. Clarke, not Kubrick. Of course the book was written by Clarke; but the movie, the source of the image, was by Kubrick. Kubrick asked Arthur C. Clarke to write the screenplay for the 2001 movie.

[CGUYS] Apple's homepage for ipad...how long till they fix it? Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread mike
As reported on Engadget and other blogs, Apple is currently running a promo on their website for the ipad showing it running flash from Adobe..which it can't do. So the ipad that can do it all, but not flash, has to lie about doing flash? How long till Apple pulls it? On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-29 Thread mike
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123084040 *It found that month-to-month fluctuations in collision accident claims didn't change before and after cell phone bans took effect. Nor did accident patterns change compared with those in nearby states without cell phone bans. * *The

Re: [CGUYS] ipad vs Clarke

2010-01-29 Thread David D Odell
Yes, both based on Clarke's short story Childhood's End And in the novel, the action takes place around Saturn, not Jupiter. The rings would have made the graphic work even harder. But nowhere, in any of the WRITTEN work, will you find the IMAGE I gave the link to. That is from the movie. You

Re: [CGUYS] Apple's homepage for ipad...how long till they fix it? Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread tjpa
On Jan 29, 2010, at 6:46 PM, mike wrote: As reported on Engadget and other blogs, Apple is currently running a promo on their website for the ipad showing it running flash from Adobe..which it can't do. So the ipad that can do it all, but not flash, has to lie about doing flash? How long

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread tjpa
On Jan 29, 2010, at 5:31 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: They have just come up to bat we will have to wait a few months to see how they swing and what type of ball has been hit. Back down a little and lets see how the filed goes. The ball has vanished over the left-field wall and we have

Re: [CGUYS] Bill Gates saves the world...well some of it

2010-01-29 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 4:34 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Wow.  No, really...WOW.  He could be saving 8 million children and the mac fan bois are crying about a computer virus. I think that Gates, and I believe he is the biggest philanthropist in the United States, just met with Italian

Re: [CGUYS] Apple's homepage for ipad...how long till they fix it? Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread mike
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/01/29/apples_ipad_promo_materials_misleading_on_adobe_flash_support.html Mac fan bois bloggers Apple Insider. Really super secret neomicrosofticons in disguise. On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 6:02 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Jan 29, 2010, at 6:46 PM,

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread tjpa
On Jan 29, 2010, at 6:37 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: ... I can't mount the device on my desktop or view the drive anywhere except in limited view in limited apps. Real networking has to work before it's ready for release. ... What if you need two USB ports? Carry a hub? Bummer. What if you need USB

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread mike
What's the game, Tom? We don't even know yet, this could turn out to be a newton or an appletv. Is your only measure Jobs said so? Since virtually no one has seen it yet, what are your metrics? And yes, I'm still awaiting your links. On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 6:13 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-29 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 7:02 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123084040 *It found that month-to-month fluctuations in collision accident claims didn't change before and after cell phone bans took effect. Nor did accident patterns change

[CGUYS] Links to One (free) and One (heavily discounted) software deals

2010-01-29 Thread Darrell Anon
Following are links to special offers on Pro versions of two softwares. The first is for EASEUS Partition Master Professional 4.1.1 -- available for free download until February 1. (regular price seems to be somewhere between $30 - $40) The blurb says: EASEUS Partition Master Professional is

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:44 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: Prediction: Business suits will start to have cargo pants pockets. Thomas Pink already sells ties with a Nano pouch. Not exactly a business suit but ScottEVest announced that it already has a bunch of clothes with the appropriate

Re: [CGUYS] safari and new windows vs tabs

2010-01-29 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 12:07 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: I downloaded Safari to once again try it out. One thing is driving me absolutely batty...I click on some links and they open in new windows instead of just opening in the current window or at the least a new tab. I have checked

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Jordan jor17...@gmail.com wrote: It's not working because he's not doing it. Correct. He is not doing it, and neither is anybody else. Steve * ** List info, subscription management,

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 9:48 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Are customers buying books or are they only renting them? In this, the digital age, customers are probably only purchasing a license that allows them to use the data they have obtained. If so, then the customer owns only the

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:43 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: Which is absolutely wonderful. The iPhone/iTouch have revolutionized how people use computers. There now. We have established, through the expert knowledge that Tom possesses, that cell phones, or at least iPhones, are actually

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Constance Warner cawar...@his.com wrote:  And I hope that if/when I actually land that job, my boss doesn't expect to be in constant communication with me on a Blackberry or iPhone I can't possibly afford on what he pays me.  I've had to take jobs like that

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread b_s-wilk
... I can't mount the device on my desktop or view the drive anywhere except in limited view in limited apps. Real networking has to work before it's ready for release. ... What if you need two USB ports? Carry a hub? Bummer. What if you need USB and want to use AV out? ... How many people are

Re: [CGUYS] Apple's homepage for ipad...how long till they fix it? Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread t.piwowar
On Jan 29, 2010, at 8:20 PM, mike wrote: Mac fan bois bloggers Apple Insider. Really super secret neomicrosofticons in disguise. This is a tech site, not Fox News. You saw a picture of a screen display and you insist it shows Flash. How do you know that? Tell the truth.

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 8:24 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: You forgot to mention the lack of parallel port and built-in floppy disk drive. Apple is showing you the future while you cling to the past. Everything you mention is a technology on its way out. You want the iPad studded with ports

Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 29 Jan 2010 - Special issue (#2010-59)

2010-01-29 Thread David K Watson
According to what I read, Fujitsu had a trademark on a 2003 product they called an iPad. In 2009, that trademark was either declared invalid or was in the process of being declared abandoned, and Fujitsu started making some weak efforts to revive it. Also, the Fujitsu iPad was some kind of

[CGUYS] Kindle

2010-01-29 Thread Marcio
Which one is better, the Kindle or the Kindle DX ? Thanks Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ **

Re: [CGUYS] ipad vs Clarke

2010-01-29 Thread Tony B
I would have to check the book again. But I thought it was Clarke that was predicting flat surface displays, not Kubrick. I recall being somewhat disappointed that Kubrick made them look more like TV screens built into the console rather than curving around the edges and things.

Re: [CGUYS] Apple's homepage for ipad...how long till they fix it? Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-29 Thread David K Watson
Why is everyone making a big fuss about this? The most likely explanation is that this is a production error, and Apple will have to fix it soon or get sued. It isn't surprising if this is the case, because Apple's well-known secrecy concerning upcoming product means that Marketing probably