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d the dancers hit each other.” —Jack Handey |
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ntains of waste is not more |
`\ landfill sites but fewer shopping centres.” —Clive Hamilton, |
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Matthias Klose writes:
> On 24.01.19 00:16, Ben Finney wrote:
> > What command, hopefully as simple as ‘py3versions --installed’, can
> > be used in AutoPkgTest to interrogate *only* those Python versions
> > on the local machine that have their standard library installed?
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stakes is not only most honorable but |
`\ more useful than a life spent doing nothing.” —anonymous |
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us, he will |
`\ not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog |
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ore than thirty years old is simply an overgrown |
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Joseph, do you mean simply replacing the article content with a “now the
policy is in the packaging manuals” external link?
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`\ powerful new dimension can be added to education.” —Alvin |
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, there is no place else to go. This is |
`\not a disposable world, and we are not yet able to re-engineer |
_o__) other planets.” —Carl Sagan, _Cosmos_, 1980 |
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“I prayed for twenty years but received no answer until I |
`\ prayed with my legs.” —Frederick Douglass, escaped slave |
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oman Empire was |
`\that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful |
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arachute doesn't open, and |
`\you friends are all watching you fall, I think a funny gag |
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you confirm you are wanting to become a package
maintainer of the Debian package for the Python library?
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now have access to so much information that we can find |
`\ support for any prejudice or opinion.” —David Suzuki, 2008-06-27 |
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e not, are slaves." —“Lord” George |
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on2?
+1, explicit is better than implicit.
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to re-engineer |
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e Brain_ |
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n't worry about what anybody else is going to do. The best |
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logic and argument |
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Diane Trout <di...@ghic.org> writes:
> On Tue, 2017-08-08 at 13:24 +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
> >
> > Those people, not party [to] this conversation, have reasonable
> > expectation that such breakage will not happen without very good
> > reason.
> >
tion giving bad advice.
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ent I picked your book up until I laid it down I |
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Barry Warsaw <ba...@debian.org> writes:
> On Aug 7, 2017, at 18:28, Ben Finney <bign...@debian.org> wrote:
>
> > That day [when we know that the vast majority of scripts in the wild
> > no longer expect Python 2 when invoking the ‘python’ command] might
> > n
er public relations, for nature |
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I disagree, it's a bad idea to actively take steps to make the same
command invoke *incompatible* programs depending on the time and host.
(good sigmonster; have a cookie.)
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A statement or belief manifestly inconsistent |
`\with one's own opinion.” —Ambrose Bierce, _The Devil's |
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ain.” —Jane Wagner, via Lily Tomlin |
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am work, end with Debian
package” process.
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\ “It is the fundamental duty of the citizen to resist and to |
`\ restrain the violence of the state.” —Noam Chomsky, 1971 |
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est from any published Git repo at your choice of
host.
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some
incorrect assumptions? I hope so.
If you'd like to discuss on OFTC my nick is ‘bignose’.
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discussion thread you point to, I don't see anything to support
that.
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yone happy with that?
I am.
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Control: reassign -1 dput
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On 17-Dec-2016, Ben Finney wrote:
> On 15-Dec-2016, Matthias Klose wrote:
> > In the past we needed that [split into ‘python-pkg-resources’ and
> > ‘python-setuptools’
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`\ and expressiveness. With Python, even a regular guy can reach |
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Barry Warsaw <ba...@debian.org> writes:
> On Nov 02, 2016, at 01:57 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
>
> >Certainly the command ‘python3’ should only ever point to the Python
> >3 interpreter.
> >
> >If upstream ever releases a “Python 4” but expects the interpreter
>
time.” —Brian W. |
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of Human Nature_, 1739 |
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Piotr Ożarowski <pi...@debian.org> writes:
> [Ben Finney, 2016-10-15]
> > How can I convince ‘dh-python’ to derive package dependencies from the
> > Setuptools ‘install_requires’ declaration?
>
> by dh-python you mean dh_python3, right?
In this case, ‘dh
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—Oscar Wilde, _De |
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-1/debian/tests/>
which allows you to specify the module names to test.
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nd he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not |
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tc. Use your Python
skills :-)
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is an opportunity somebody wishes they had missed.” —Jane |
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ere. That's |
`\ why it's important to be the right person today, and not put it |
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itiated in their entirety with a single command, and all
output is captured for later inspect. This is why it's important to use
Sbuild or something equivalent.
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ell |
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Barry Warsaw <ba...@debian.org> writes:
> On Jun 23, 2016, at 11:17 AM, Ben Finney wrote:
>
> >There isn't, AFAIK, anything portable that I can write in the shebang
> >to turn a command invocation of ‘./foo/bar.py’ into ‘python3 -m
> >foo.bar’.
>
> Why not
hy?” “Shut up! I don't need your fucking |
`\ *input*, I need you to roll dice!” —Luke Crane, demonstrating |
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Barry Warsaw <ba...@debian.org> writes:
> On Jun 22, 2016, at 11:25 AM, Ben Finney wrote:
>
> >There is a compounding tendency to disparage ‘python3 ./foo/bar.py’,
> >[…]. I wish this trend could be effectively reversed, because IMO
> >this is a serious impedimen
Batman!” —Robin |
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o good, at least do no harm.” —_Slapstick_, |
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espect is going to bring it down, it's not worth |
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.” —Shaun Mason |
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`\ until we do, until we have data, it is just one more proposal.” |
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se. The source
distribution is for people who want to build from source. Those are
always distinct use cases.
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Piotr Ożarowski <pi...@debian.org> writes:
> [Ben Finney, 2016-04-13]
> > One complication may have been that the directory name to which the
> > library was installed (with the “--install-lib” option) does not
> > contain the Debian package name.
>
> […] By ch
Piotr Ożarowski <pi...@debian.org> writes:
> [Ben Finney, 2016-04-12]
> > * Pybuild runs the upstream test suite
> > * which imports the Python packages
> > * which creates the compiled bytecode files
> > * which remain in the package directories
>
uild’ output?
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idea” —Thomas Jefferson, 1813-08-13 |
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Brian May <b...@debian.org> writes:
> Ben Finney <ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au> writes:
>
> > As another check, you can test the resulting URL with a ‘git clone’ to a
> > temporary target directory.
>
> It doesn't seem to like me today:
Alioth is not res
Brian May <b...@debian.org> writes:
> Ben Finney <ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au> writes:
>
> > The “git:” URL method is not encrypted. You should specify the encrypted
> > “https:” method in the “VCS-Git” field
>
> So just to double check, this sho
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“Immorality: The morality of those who are having a better |
`\ time.” —Henry L. Mencken |
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this a more automated part of the Debian
Python package build workflow?
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Scott Kitterman <deb...@kitterman.com> writes:
> On Tuesday, February 02, 2016 06:44:57 AM Ben Finney wrote:
> > Ben Finney <ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au> writes:
> > > * Address all the language around Python 2 versus Python 3 versus
> > > Python ge
Ben Finney <ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au> writes:
> * Address all the language around Python 2 versus Python 3 versus
> Python general, and re-order or re-word to focus *primarily* on Python
> 3, with Python 2 treated as the still-supported legacy system.
>
> I'm mainta
Scott Kitterman <deb...@kitterman.com> writes:
> On Tuesday, January 26, 2016 04:46:19 PM Ben Finney wrote:
> ...
> > Once these non-semantic changes are accepted I will begin work on
> > the second stage of semantic changes.
> ...
>
> OK. Those are all
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Dmitry Shachnev <mity...@debian.org> writes:
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 04:46:19PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> > I'm planning to provide changes in two bundles:
> >
> > * Go through the whole document and tidy it up for consistency,
> > source style, markup
Ben Finney <ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au> writes:
> Scott Kitterman <deb...@kitterman.com> writes:
>
> > At this point I think internal consistency is probably more
> > important, so if someone wants to go through and make all the
> > python's that should be pyth
Ben Finney <ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au> writes:
> I'm planning to provide changes in two bundles:
>
> * Go through the whole document and tidy it up for consistency, source
> style, markup, and language style. This should not change the meaning
> of anything, but wi
Scott Kitterman <deb...@kitterman.com> writes:
> On Sunday, January 24, 2016 04:58:26 PM Ben Finney wrote:
> > Found it; the source document is ‘python-policy.sgml’ in the source
> > VCS for ‘python3’. Currently that's a Bazaar repository at
> > <URL:bzr+ssh:/
I'm pondering?” “Well, I think |
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ble that a little bit |
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Ben Finney <ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au> writes:
> Where is the Git (I assume?) repository you're using for VCS of this
> policy document?
Found it; the source document is ‘python-policy.sgml’ in the source VCS
for ‘python3’. Currently that's a Bazaar repository at
<URL:bzr+ssh:/
arily not from our vices or our weaknesses, but |
`\from our illusions.” —Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, 1914–2004 |
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ood reason.
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ondering?” “I think so, ... Brain, |
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s on [a] fundamental technology, |
`\ calls it proprietary, and then tries to keep others from |
_o__) building on it, is a thief.” —Tim O'Reilly, 2000-01-25 |
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