Re: [dev-biblio] Bibliographic Wiki MLA

On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Sören Fröhlich wrote: > Dear Team, > > First of all, thank you so very much for working to make OOWriter a truly > professional word editor! So far my workaround is to write my paper, > including endnotes, and to then re-number in the header each page of the > bibl

Re: [dev-biblio] My Introduction

On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 12:57 AM, dnw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The most useful activity you could do at this time would be to work with the > Zotero team to fix the Zotero plugin/ extension for OpenOffice version 3. FYI, the Zotero devs have been working on a new version of the plug-in to cov

[dev-biblio] OOo 3.0 and Zotero

Anyone have any ideas about the bug outlined here? TIA, Bruce - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[dev-biblio] reminder on Zotero, OOo 3.0

Just a reminder to any developers out their that might want to contribute to enhancing bibliographic support in OOo, there's still work to be done by somebody in upgrading Zotero's OOo integration to support OOo 3.0, including the new Mac port. Am really not even sure what's involved in doing that.

Re: [dev-biblio] [Fwd: [RFC] RDF metadata API draft]

On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 7:39 AM, Michael Stahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > > Am *really* not sure about this, but I wonder if it would make sense to > > consider the document itself a graph? > > hmmm, interesting idea. > If I understand the RDF model correctly, then a document would ha

Re: [dev-biblio] [Fwd: [RFC] RDF metadata API draft]

cc-ing ODF metadata list; re . Michael Stahl wrote: i am currently designing an API that would be used for implementing the ODF metadata specification (part of ODF 1.2) [1]. Nice! FWIW, I just forwarded your note to the W3C semweb list,

Re: [dev-biblio] call for volunteers: Zotero plug-in

Gannon Dick wrote: I'm very involved with another project at the momment (http://www.RUSTPrivacy.org/) so I don't think I'd be much help with maintenance. Sure. Yo, anyone else out there? With all the time waiting for things to move on improving bib support in OOo, here's now the time to cont

[dev-biblio] call for volunteers: Zotero plug-in

I asked Dan Stillman at the Zotero project if there was anything we could do here to do to help with development, maintenance, or support of the Zotero plug-in for OOo. His answer was: "As for maintenance and support, we'd certainly appreciate any development work from the OOo project in keeping t

[dev-biblio] Re: [users-biblio] JabRef - OpenOffice integration

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree that the bibliographic functionning need not be within OpenOffice, however just to remind you : Zotero is not the only "working" example out there , Bibus integrates nicely with OO and Word without using the OO integrated database. True enough. But to be bl

Re: [dev-biblio] Re: [users-biblio] JabRef - OpenOffice integration

On Dec 5, 2007 7:55 PM, David Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Currently there are complexities involved with Zotero and other 3rd party > bibliographic apps in sharing documents and the related bibliographic data, > which would be greatly reduced with an integrated bibliographic facility. Wel

[dev-biblio] Re: [users-biblio] JabRef - OpenOffice integration

On Dec 5, 2007 9:21 AM, Morten Omholt Alver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are two other links needed for the interaction: first, where is > the information specified by CSL coming from? In JabRef's case, it > comes from BibTeX fields, filtered by JabRef's formatters (as in the > FORMATTERS se

[dev-biblio] Re: [users-biblio] JabRef - OpenOffice integration

On Dec 5, 2007 12:52 AM, Paolo Cavallini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I completely agree with you. Even if still work has to be done on it, > Zotero seems really the killing app in this field. > Unfortunately, for the moment the styles are few, and there is not a > practical way of contributing, b

[dev-biblio] Re: [users-biblio] JabRef - OpenOffice integration

On Dec 4, 2007 2:42 PM, Morten Omholt Alver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been working on a plugin for integrating JabRef better with > OpenOffice.org via the UNO interface (to clarify: it's a plugin for > JabRef - which will support plugins from the next version). It's far > from finished,

Re: [dev-biblio] new endnote x1 support for odt files?

Matt Price wrote: ... my main interest in broaching the subject is to help my colleagues, who all use endnote, to move to openoffice. Hmm ... I guess that depends. Do your colleagues express interest in moving away from Word? If yes, what kinds of sacrifices are they willing to make to do

Re: [dev-biblio] new endnote x1 support for odt files?

On 11/2/07, Matthew Yates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > As I said, I think this is great. My graduate > students use MS Word and EndNote, while I use > Openoffice.org on Linux for most things. Since this > appears to work (almost) flawlessly in wine, I think I > may be able to switch my grou

Re: [dev-biblio] new endnote x1 support for odt files?

Matt Price wrote: does anyone know more about this? ... * Formatting support for Open Document Type (ODT) files using the Format Paper command No, but I'd speculate that the support is something like what you'd get with RTF. E.g. not what you'd get with MS Word, or using Zote

[dev-biblio] zotero support

For those interested in using Zotero with OOo, see: The goal of the support last I heard (I don't have time to test the latest version) is that it not only be equivalent to the MS Word support, but that it be possible to round-tr

Re: [dev-biblio] Re: document/collection types

Leonard Mada wrote: My real concern is, that, if the category 'document' is set too large, so that everything fits in it, than what is the purpose of this category? As a) a fallback for resources that aren't explicitly supported, and b) because other types subclass it. Bruce --

Re: [Fwd: Re: [dev-biblio] document/collection types]

Frederick Giasson wrote: Hi Bruce, Yeah, I know. Let's try this. I'm going to try to link this into the FRBR world view. Document: a written, transcribed, or recorded manifestation of a work typically intended to communicate some intellectual or artistic information or ideas. Collection: a

Re: [Fwd: Re: [dev-biblio] document/collection types]

Matthias Steffens wrote: My tendency has been to think in terms like libraries think; more about the physical form. So a book is always a document, whether it includes separate items or not. Good for me. I agree that clearly defining the words "collection" and "container" is important. The

Re: [dev-biblio] Re: document/collection types

Frederick Giasson wrote: So, a document could have more than one status, and one of them could be bibo_status:peerReviewed. Is it what you have in mind? Exactly! But the description of such a status should be well defined to make sure that it reflects exactly the discussion we had here. Su

Re: [dev-biblio] Re: document/collection types

Leonard Mada wrote: ... Regarding document type, there are broadly 2 large categories of documents, and therefore I am strongly against some of the droppibngs: A. Peer-Reviewed Documents B. NON-Peer-Reviewed Documents So, you cannot mix everything in the article category, there are really d

Re: [dev-biblio] Re: document/collection types

Matthias, Matthias Basler wrote: Von: Bruce D\'Arcus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This is a little tricky. I think if I have a book review in a newspaper, then perhaps it ought to be typed as both an Article and a Review? Reviews can be issued in different forms, including broadcast on the radio. Wh

Re: [dev-biblio] Re: document/collection types

James Howison wrote: How would a book review fit into this? Good question. I think that's dropped out somewhere. Jstor for example makes this a separate type, with specific data for a reviewed article etc. One could imagine having a collection of reviewed articles. This is a little tricky

[dev-biblio] document/collection types

So I'd like to review the current hierarchy of document and collections types in the RDF ontology we're working on. Am cross-posting to the Zotero and OOo bib dev lists. Please send suggestions ASAP (like end of today). Note: as I mentioned before, this is really quite hard, as I don't really

Re: [dev-biblio] metadata implementation ideas

On 7/5/07, Gannon Dick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So, will the legacy tag be preserved or not in the OpenOffice Writer ? Not sure, but I expect it to be deprecated. Will check ... Bruce - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PRO

[dev-biblio] metadata implementation ideas

The ODF TC has in principle approved enhanced metadata support [1] for ODF 1.2. This is fantastically cool stuff, and gives ODF: 1. a simple, flexible, and extensible data model (RDF) 2. the ability to use it to describe not just the document, but pieces within the document (tables, images, etc

Re: [dev-biblio] Some Considerations for Bibliographic Management

On Jun 15, 2007, at 7:40 PM, David Wilson wrote: As I understand them, the current proposals for the OOo Bib Project would allow for the selection of and retention of disparate fonts and font sizes within citation and citation prefixes and suffixes. We've not settled on the precise modeling

Re: [dev-biblio] Word fields

On Jun 6, 2007, at 7:58 AM, Matthew Yates wrote: Thanks for pointing out Zotero. I didn't know about it. I installed it and it looks promising. Yes, it's excellent, and will only get better. However, I don't see where Zotero helps with OOo bibliographies. According to: http://wiki.servi

Re: [dev-biblio] Word fields

On Jun 6, 2007, at 3:31 AM, Gannon Dick wrote: I'm guessing that is an encoding scheme, like some of the Dublin Core refinements en-US or 2007-06-06 ... No. It's just a very simple field: Some text and field content ... but it's logic is represented in RDF (stored in the file package).

[dev-biblio] Word fields

I just sent Mathias an off-list note, but was thinking a bit more, so ... Developers working with the Zotero project (http://zotero.org) just about have OOo integration sorted out. This is great! There's one problem, however, that relates to a limitation in OOo. They want round-trip compat

[dev-biblio] zotero and OOo

An update from the Zotero guys about work (by Ian Laurenson) on integrating Zotero with OOo. Bruce - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional

Re: [dev-biblio] feedback needed on citation formatting

On Mar 20, 2007, at 10:19 PM, David Wilson wrote: I am leaning towards not supporting traditional flags of this sort, with the idea that they're more trouble than they're worth, for both author and programmer. I am not sure what you mean precisely. Do you mean 'by not supporting traditional fl

Re: [dev-biblio] feedback needed on citation formatting

On Mar 20, 2007, at 7:12 PM, David Wilson wrote: A couple of questions come to mind- 1. Locator formatting (page numbers etc). If CiteProc is handling the locator formatting I would guess that intend that the RDF in package would look like: #An entry for each ref/location Doe, 1999:

Re: [dev-biblio] feedback needed on citation formatting

On Mar 20, 2007, at 5:08 PM, James Howison wrote: I'm confused. How is that generated? Would that be the details written into the document by the user? Is this equivalent to \citet{key1,key2} and \citet[see also][]{key3}. No, this is the string generated by the citation formatting code. So

[dev-biblio] feedback needed on citation formatting

It seems we're (finally!) about wrapped up with the ODF metadata work on which we'll base the new citation support. To make a long story short, we've realized that likely the easiest way to proceed with the details of formatting is that Writer has an API which knows how to track citations,

[dev-biblio] Re: [sw-discussion] Re: zotero and OOo

On Feb 13, 2007, at 11:55 AM, Mathias Bauer wrote: Bruce D'Arcus wrote: Ahem, yes, I know, developers in general seem not to care about the edu and research market; it seems the only organization that has actually *delivered* decent citation support is MS ;-) Well, it's not tha

[dev-biblio] Re: [sw-discussion] Re: zotero and OOo

On Feb 13, 2007, at 9:28 AM, Mathias Bauer wrote: Anyway, I hope this cleared any misconceptions. My personal preference is not the most important one, and this is not just about zotero and oowriter. Its about having one API that a set of ODF based WPs are willing to support. Ultimately t

[dev-biblio] Re: [sw-discussion] Re: zotero and OOo

The dbus vs. uno stuff is beyond me, but ... On Feb 12, 2007, at 3:54 PM, Mathias Bauer wrote: Currently we are talking about Zotero. They are using SOAP and this is fine for both MSOffice and OOo as well. And I don't see a reason that KOffice can't use it that way. So I would go for it. SOAP

Re: [dev-biblio] Fwd: [sw-discussion] Re: [dev-biblio] Re: [sw-discussion] Re: zotero and OOo

On Feb 11, 2007, at 4:11 PM, David Wilson wrote: I will work on it today. OK, just to be clear, we're laying out the requirements fro a cross-application API. It would be used to assess whether ZOOM is good as is, whether it needs to be adapted, or we need something else. It seem KOffice

Re: [dev-biblio] Fwd: [sw-discussion] Re: [dev-biblio] Re: [sw-discussion] Re: zotero and OOo

On Feb 10, 2007, at 9:20 PM, David Wilson wrote: I put together my ideas about possible Citeproc - Writer Interaction at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Citeproc_Writer_Interaction I think we might need to pull back and get more abstract to address Mathias' question? It seems your

[dev-biblio] Fwd: [sw-discussion] Re: [dev-biblio] Re: [sw-discussion] Re: zotero and OOo

io] Re: [sw-discussion] Re: zotero and OOo Reply-To: dev@sw.openoffice.org Bruce D'Arcus wrote: Yes, there's no doubt in my mind that citations will get thrown out all over the place. MS doesn't support them in earlier versions, and ODF can't really store the new citation fields

Re: [dev-biblio] Re: [sw-discussion] Re: zotero and OOo

On Feb 7, 2007, at 11:52 PM, Peter Sefton wrote: For example, how will Sun's new Word plugin < http://blogs.sun.com/webmink/entry/sun_announces_odf_plug_in> move bibliographic data around? How will that interact with the MS sponsored OOXML to ODF converter? We're talking about a constellation o

[dev-biblio] Re: [sw-discussion] Re: zotero and OOo

Hi Mathias, On Feb 6, 2007, at 1:18 PM, Mathias Bauer wrote: Bruce D'Arcus wrote: One thing that the plug-in does not do currently -- but which would be nice -- is to allow browsing of the database from within the word- processor. So using the MS example, imagine if instead they use

[dev-biblio] Re: [sw-discussion] Re: zotero and OOo

On Feb 6, 2007, at 11:15 AM, Mathias Bauer wrote: Bruce, can you help us getting a *short* description of the necessary APIs? Which "language" does Zotero "talk" with Word? OK, I found it already. :-) Sorry, been busy, and was waiting on an answer from the Zotero guys. I had a look on the

[dev-biblio] Fwd: [office] data templating (and citations)

auer - Sun Germany - ham02 - Hamburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: February 1, 2007 8:50:49 AM EST To: "Bruce D'Arcus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: office Office <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [office] data templating (and citations) Hi Bruce, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:

Re: [dev-biblio] zotero and OOo

On Jan 31, 2007, at 12:11 PM, Herbert Snorrason wrote: On 31.1.2007, at 17:03, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: I still think it'd be easier if we could have a standard API on the word-processor end (Word, Writer, KWord, etc.) so that this is easier to do in a standard way. Hopefully we can g

[dev-biblio] zotero and OOo

Just an FYI (mostly for the bib project, but cc-ing others) that the Zotero guys do want to integrate with OOo in ways similar to their Word integration. There's this:

Re: [dev-biblio] important question

On Jan 30, 2007, at 2:52 PM, Leonard Mada wrote: Bruce D'Arcus wrote: But this all can get very tricky to deal with, particularly when you consider things like substitution logic (what happens when there's no author?), first/subsequent citations, and so forth. I worry how a

Re: [dev-biblio] important question

On 1/30/07, Leonard Mada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Instead of having flags for every citation field, I suggested: - have styles for citations - AND allow more than one citation styles in the same document -- styles are set globally (therefore, IF one decides to change a style, he changes all

Re: [dev-biblio] Fwd: [Bibdesk-users] Long author name

On 1/29/07, James Howison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just a use-case that might be useful for considering the range of formatting requirements for the in-page citation. Jurabib offers a way to have an abbreviation of the full author show up in author-year type styles. Can CSL handle that? No,

Re: [dev-biblio] important question

On Jan 28, 2007, at 5:45 PM, Gannon Dick wrote: As I see it, there are several reasons to keep locale. None are related to computer processing, but rather Library Science. Locale for the source metadata, sure, but I'm still unclear why the citation field itself needs it. Bruce --

Re: [dev-biblio] important question

On Jan 28, 2007, at 4:48 PM, James Howison wrote: So things like comma vs semi-colon would be handled in the style file, ie if you had a style that was right in all other respects but wanted to swap comma vs semi-colon you'd be sub-classing the style for this specific document? Yes, though

Re: [dev-biblio] important question

On Jan 28, 2007, at 3:55 PM, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: I, for example, don't see why we should allow users to change the delimiter for a citation per James' example above. Ahem, just to be clear, I mean *locally.* E.g. I don't see why the global configuration of a style says

Re: [dev-biblio] important question

On Jan 28, 2007, at 3:43 PM, Matthias Basler wrote: James Howison wrote: From time to time users are going to want to drop out of the style defined ways of citing and use the flags themselves (ie I like this style in general, but I want a comma instead of a semi-colon separating the Author-Ye

Re: [dev-biblio] important question

On Jan 27, 2007, at 4:19 PM, David Wilson wrote: Am I right in thinking that Microsoft's citation systems does not support footnote citations. Yes, that is correct. They also don't do author-year citations right in Word 2007 ;-) And that do not have footnote citation flags defined in ca

Re: [dev-biblio] important question

Well, here's the citation field switches in Microsoft's Open XML format, which we have to be able to convert in and out of: \l The text in this switch's field-argument specifies the locale which shall be used in conjunction with the specified bibliographic style to format the citation in the

Re: [dev-biblio] smarttags in OOo

Hi CPH, On Jan 27, 2007, at 8:02 AM, CPHennessy wrote: I'm not sure if it makes sense but would the smarttags feature which was recently added be useful to develope the citation component ? Yeah, maybe. A few months ago I talked to the guys who were working on this about our work and the m

Re: [dev-biblio] important question

On Jan 24, 2007, at 4:37 PM, David Wilson wrote: Ibidem has several other insert citation options including - a custom, manual entry for this instance only. See: http://bibliographic.openoffice.org/screenImages/ IbidemDescription_html_m6ca0a53b.gif I do not propose that we blindly follow a

Re: [dev-biblio] important question

On Jan 24, 2007, at 11:06 AM, Florian Schlichting wrote: Bruce, On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 09:42:06AM -0500, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: I'm making some minor changes to the ODF citation field that I hope will be added soon. One change I want to make is to add control to the local styling

[dev-biblio] important question

Hi, I'm making some minor changes to the ODF citation field that I hope will be added soon. One change I want to make is to add control to the local styling attribute. This is the flag that will say, for example, suppress author, so that you get (1999) instead of (Doe, 1999). My question is,

Re: [dev-biblio] Re: Smart Tags

On Nov 25, 2006, at 6:16 AM, Gannon Dick wrote: As I envision it, the RUST tag would exist as ad hoc protection for PII (Personal Identifying Information). So, the easier it is to specify a text block to be "rusted" the better. I don't think there's any need for some specific new element for

Re: [dev-biblio] taking the biscuit

Followup: On Oct 18, 2006, at 1:48 PM, Jon Rubin wrote: It was a Windows XP (for all users) install and the biblio file is in this folder: C:\Program Files\OpenOffice.org 2.0\presets\database This is your problem. You need to use the default location for the database. Bruce ---

Re: [dev-biblio] ODF and xsd schema

On Oct 31, 2006, at 6:24 PM, Gannon Dick wrote: a) ODF is authored in RELAX NG, which has far more power to validate this sort of stuff than XSD. The Dublin Core is "authored" in XSD or RDF, and both namespaces are controlled by the W3C. I don't want to produce RELAX NG schema for Dublin Cor

Re: [dev-biblio] ODF and xsd schema

On Oct 29, 2006, at 4:51 PM, Gannon Dick wrote: With this validation, I was able to solve at least one of the problems with a "generic API for meta data". The validation constrains the XML to a set of "core" DC elements (dc:title, dc:subject ...[6, I think]) and constrains the "User Defined Na

Re: [dev-biblio] ODF and xsd schema

On Oct 27, 2006, at 4:51 AM, juskenabble wrote: Does anybody know where to find a specific xsd schema, which the open document format part context.xml must comply ? I have been searching for quite a long time, but I havent found anything. There is none; it's RELAX NG. Available from here:

Re: [dev-biblio] Re: [sw-discussion] Re: [dev-biblio] Re: [sw-discussion] generic structured fields, citations

On 10/24/06, Jakob Lechner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 10:58 -0400, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > This is my opinion, but I think metadata in ODF should conform to a > common model. Otherwise, we end up with little islands of content that > are intelligible wi

Re: [dev-biblio] For your reading pleasure ...

On 10/23/06, David Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Organisations could add macros to the document save process to force you to add text. But I have see the results of such policies - long lists of swear words in the catalogues and lots of aaa, bbb, acd etc. You can force people to type it is h

[dev-biblio] Re: [sw-discussion] default db should be empty

On Oct 23, 2006, at 1:44 PM, Andre Schnabel wrote: Thanks for the explanation, but I hope you're joking here. There's no good reason why this db is prefilled. It comes across like beta software where someone forget to remove the test data. No, I'm not joking, as I know users who find this data

[dev-biblio] Re: [sw-discussion] default db should be empty

On Oct 23, 2006, at 1:18 PM, Andre Schnabel wrote: There is really no need to rand a prefilled database. You could use this databes to by some really usefull books about OOo that would have explained how to delete those records. Thanks for the explanation, but I hope you're joking here. Ther

[dev-biblio] default db should be empty

From Dan Chudnov (library hacker): Does anybody know why OpenOffice ships with a "bibliography database" that's *already* filled out with a bunch of records? Do they assume we all want to write papers about OpenOffice? And why, ple

Re: [dev-biblio] For your reading pleasure ...

On 10/22/06, Gannon Dick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is there a way to prioritize RDF elements or are they all peers? In RDF, you just have subject-predicate-object statements. So they are indeed "all peers." The way to encourage certain expectations about those statements, it seems to me, is

Re: [dev-biblio] For your reading pleasure ...

On Oct 20, 2006, at 5:48 PM, Gannon Dick wrote: I have a slightly different, but I think more practical, approach to Meta Data in ODF documents. OK, I managed to access the documents, but I really don't understand what you're advocating. Metadata in ODF 1.2 will almost certainly use a gener

Re: [dev-biblio] For your reading pleasure ...

On 10/20/06, Gannon Dick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have a slightly different, but I think more practical, approach to Meta Data in ODF documents. "Different" and "more practical" than what? I'm not able to access the documents in any case. Bruce --

Re: [dev-biblio] Re: [sw-discussion] Re: [dev-biblio] Re: [sw-discussion] generic structured fields, citations

On 10/19/06, Jakob Lechner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As discussed earlier we want to include xml metadata in odt archives and implement fields that can read and modify the content of a given tag of the xml structure. So the field actually needs a reference to the xml file it is linked to and a

Re: [dev-biblio] taking the biscuit

Hi Jon, Quick question: can you just confirm where your database was stored? I need to pass on the info to the Writer people. On this ... On 10/18/06, Jon Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OK, so I understand that Sun has very little interest in actually getting the bibliography project the su

Re: [dev-biblio] How to use Zoterero with OOo

On Oct 9, 2006, at 1:08 AM, David Wilson wrote: You may be aware that the Firefox bibliographic add-on Zotero is now available to the public and that it uses Bruce D'Arcus's CiteProc engine to produce the bibliographic table. Corrections: 1) it does not use CiteProc; it uses the CSL stylin

Re: [dev-biblio] Hierarchical Keyword Tree

Hah, just came across this after sending the last message. The "fly through" comment refers to their use of -- you guess it -- hierarchical tags! Not sure how they're doing it internally, but storage is RDF, so I'd guess it's something like what I was talking about with SKOS. Bruce --

Re: [dev-biblio] Hierarchical Keyword Tree

On Sep 29, 2006, at 12:31 PM, Leonard Mada wrote: What I want is an amalgam of both, and even more than that. Simple keywords are to primitive and do not offer the wanted advantages when you want to search something. e.g. I recently searched for the term "febrile neutropenia" on Pubmed and re

Re: [dev-biblio] Hierarchical Keyword Tree

On Sep 28, 2006, at 4:04 PM, Matthias Basler wrote: Just a question for me to understand what exactly you are talking about when you refer to "keywords". AKA "tags" as used in Flickr, etc., etc. I actually believe the basic idea of tags is right (really simple for uses to add), but that we

Re: [dev-biblio] Hierarchical Keyword Tree

On Sep 26, 2006, at 5:51 PM, Leonard Mada wrote: I come up with another idea regarding the standardisation of keywords. I believe that the ultimate goal is to have standard keywords, too. However, as this will be difficult, a possible solution is to let users specify their own keywords. Ha

[dev-biblio] new extensions framework

I think this is a really good move which might have implications for us. Bruce - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail:

[dev-biblio] OpenOffice Bib API

FYI, David Wilson put up a wiki page to come up with suggested enhancements to the OpenOffice bibliographic API. I'm trying to find out about Microsoft's new citation and bibliography API, but am not finding any det

Re: [dev-biblio] Re: [sw-discussion] generic structured fields, citations

On 9/21/06, Jakob Lechner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Am Dienstag, den 19.09.2006, 08:50 -0400 schrieb Bruce D'Arcus: > [...] > > Can you give me some specific use case examples that might benefit > from such a generic structured metadata field? Citations is one. I > co

[dev-biblio] Re: [sw-discussion] generic structured fields, citations

On 9/19/06, Jakob Lechner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: we recently also discussed metadata fields in our company. Here are our basic ideas: If such a field is inserted into an OOo document the text information linked with this field shall be renderd in the document. But we want these fields also

[dev-biblio] Re: [users-biblio] Fwd: [dev-biblio] project update

David just posted the IRC log here if you're interested: Bruce - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e

[dev-biblio] generic structured fields, citations

Sorry for cross-posting, but this touches on different areas (ODF, fields, metadata). This is a followup to today's IRC chat about the bibliographic project plans ... Part of what has swirled around the ODF metadata discussions, including today, is the notion of a generic field that links

[dev-biblio] project update

Just a quick head's up ... David and I had an IRC meeting with some of the senior OOo and Sun people about how we move forward on our plans. Peter Sefton and Matthew Dovey joined us to give third-party developer perspectives. We'll post the IRC transcript soon so you can read the conversati

[dev-biblio] Re: [sw-discussion] Smart Tags in Openoffice Writer

Hi Jakob, On Sep 4, 2006, at 4:23 AM, Jakob Lechner wrote: Am Freitag, den 01.09.2006, 12:00 -0400 schrieb Bruce D'Arcus: [...] But what *is* a "keyword" in this context? A keyword can be any word specified in a given smarttag library. You're talking implementatio

[dev-biblio] Re: [sw-discussion] Smart Tags in Openoffice Writer

On Sep 1, 2006, at 11:32 AM, Jakob Lechner wrote: As far as I understand you, what you want is to embed metadata in one specific document. This is not the case with smarttags. A keyword X in any document will be handled in the same way. But what *is* a "keyword" in this context? In your orig

[dev-biblio] Re: [sw-discussion] Smart Tags in Openoffice Writer

On 9/1/06, Jakob Lechner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We consider the primary use case of smart tags to be to link words (that are recognized by an external library) in a document with actions provided by this library. The user usually doesn't add patterns manually, but another application provide

[dev-biblio] Re: [sw-discussion] Smart Tags in Openoffice Writer

On Sep 1, 2006, at 8:44 AM, Jakob Lechner wrote: We would like to implement "Smart Tags"-like functionality in Openoffice Writer. I'd like to offer a suggestion. I'm the co-project lead for the OpenOffice bibliographic project, a member of the OpenDocument TC, and heavily-involved in the cu

Re: [dev-biblio] ODF requirements

Peter, comment from one of the MS people on Brian Jones' blog: Since Open XML is the default format for Office 2007, I don't think that MS has changed a lot in the binary format and adapted the XML format as an afterthought. So the reference for binary compatibility would be Office 2003. Any p

Re: [dev-biblio] ODF requirements

On Jul 27, 2006, at 8:04 PM, pt wrote: I would like to see consideration of interoperability with the Microsoft Office Open XML formats (if a proposed feature will compromise interop I'd prefer it left out). It would also be worth looking at the MS Word to ODF converter project which should

[dev-biblio] ODF requirements

FYI, the ODF metadata SC met today to discuss how we'll move forward with the requirements document. We're going to start by discussing in detail two of what we think are the most difficult and representative use cases we need to solve. The first of these will be bibliographies and citation

[dev-biblio] GUI

OK, am just looking again through the details of the existing GUI, seeing if we can get by with minimal changes that might have a big impact on functionality. So, random thoughts: 1) I think maybe we need our own "citation" entry in the "insert" menu (and maybe in "tools"?). 2) The inse

Re: [dev-biblio] bringing our description closer inline with existing OOo bib API

On Jul 22, 2006, at 7:10 PM, David Wilson wrote: One issues with /text/FieldMaster/Bibliography which is the master field for the Bibliography / Reference table is that it also it also contains some configuration options for the display of citations. BracketBefore - determines the opening br

[dev-biblio] bringing our description closer inline with existing OOo bib API

It's occurred to me in looking at all this again that we need see where we can simply use and/or enhance the existing bib APIs in OOo: to see if we can disentangle what are GUI problems, from something fundamental in the design. It seems to me these APIs look fine: Bibliography ===

[dev-biblio] cleaned up wiki some

FYI, I just went through and cleaned up the main wiki page a bit: Main changes are using the term "citation field" to refer to the new citation support, to make clear exactly what i

Re: [dev-biblio] more on word support

On Jul 16, 2006, at 10:23 PM, pt wrote: 1. An external reference database / research tool that could be used with both Word and Writer. It should be able to store not jsut metadata but full-text articles, notes, webpage snapshots & other supporting data. Right. I think this is slowly being

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