Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-13 Thread Klaus Hartl
•More than cosmetic effects (Moo.fx) Just wondering - I don't know much about it - does Moo.fx really have only cosmetic effects? What is meant by that anyway? I guess I have to have a look into the slides... -- Klaus ___ jQuery mailing list

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-12 Thread Scottus
http://www.openajax.org/about.html anyone interested in joinging the opn ajax alliance. I think the fact that jquery can run with prototype shows that it is willing to work well with others. and every little bit of press helps ___ jQuery mailing

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-12 Thread Rey Bango
I think thats a question that John would need to answer since he's leading the jQuery effort. Rey... Scottus wrote: http://www.openajax.org/about.html anyone interested in joinging the opn ajax alliance. I think the fact that jquery can run with prototype shows that it is willing to

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-12 Thread Steven Wittens
I don't have time to sift through this thread, but I just want to say I gave a talk about Drupal jQuery twice in September and got nothing but good replies. The slides are online. Mail me if you want the Apple Keynote file: http://www.acko.net/blog/jquery-drupalcon-talk There is also a

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-11 Thread Jonathan Sharp
On 12/10/06, Jörn Zaefferer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David schrieb: Dave Methvin schreef: jQuery: Write less and do more jQuery: Say no more (for Monty Python fans) jQuery: Web programming, short and sweet As long as we are making slogans. I will give it a shot as well jQuery : the

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-09 Thread Stephen Woodbridge
In spite of my suggestion for the tag line jQuery: puts the fun back in JavaScript! I think we should be very careful about be negative about JavaScript, after all it is the language we are working in. My line was meant more to reflect that fact the programming cross browser DOM stuff in

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-09 Thread eugene33
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Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-09 Thread Dave Methvin
I think we should be very careful about be negative about JavaScript, after all it is the language we are working in. It's a pretty good language, too. My line was meant more to reflect that fact the programming cross browser DOM stuff in JavaScript is really painful and not fun. jQuery

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-08 Thread Edwin Martin
Stephen Woodbridge wrote: I kind of like: jQuery: puts the fun back in JavaScript! That's much better than the current New Wave JavaScript, which is the current tagline on the homepage. (For the people not old enough to know what New Wave is: it's an music style, popular in the eighties

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-08 Thread digital spaghetti
Don't forget Divo - thats where the jQuery hat comes from :) Ok folks - http://getjquery.org is up and running :) I couldn't resist as I got an offer from my web host to upgrade to a re-seller account for £1 for the next 3 months and a free URL, after that i'll need to start looking at raising

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-08 Thread Jörn Zaefferer
Krzysztof FF schrieb: I saw another sabotage at that comparison ( http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/UP3/JQuery+JS+Library http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/UP3/JQuery+JS+Library ): DEMO: http://www.dojotoolkit.org/ Demo from JQuery referring to DOJO ??? What the [EMAIL PROTECTED]%*%[EMAIL

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-08 Thread Luke Lutman
Dave Methvin wrote: You start with 10 lines of jQuery that would have been 20 lines of tedious DOM Javascript. By the time you are done it's down to two or three lines and it couldn't get any shorter unless it read your mind. I think that should be the first paragraph on the homepage!

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-08 Thread Pje
jQuery, the way that javascript should be. Just my 2 cents. :) On 12/8/06, Luke Lutman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Solid Source wrote: 1. Change the slogan New Wave Javascript to something more along the lines of explaining what it does or how it does it rather than what it is. Everyone

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-08 Thread Christian Bach
jQuery, duty now for the future :) Pje wrote: jQuery, the way that javascript should be. Just my 2 cents. :) On 12/8/06, Luke Lutman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Solid Source wrote: 1. Change the slogan New Wave Javascript to something more along the lines of explaining what it does

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-08 Thread Edwin Martin
jQuery: past prototype. I like the double meaning of it. Edwin Martin Christian Bach wrote: jQuery, duty now for the future :) Pje wrote: jQuery, the way that javascript should be. Just my 2 cents. :) On 12/8/06, Luke Lutman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Solid Source wrote:

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-08 Thread Christopher Jordan
Yeah, but we probably don't want to slam other projects. That seems kinda like bad sportsmanship or bad geekmanship or something. Doing something like that may alienate more folks that it attracts. :o/ Cheers, Chris Edwin Martin wrote: jQuery: past prototype. I like the double meaning of

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-08 Thread Rey Bango
Hi Sean, Thanks for the heads up. I contacted the author via email with updated information in the hopes that he'll revise it to properly represent jQueries capabilities. Here's what I sent him: Hi Chuck, My name is Rey Bango and I'm a volunteer with the jQuery project. I was recently passed

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-08 Thread Marc Jansen
What about jQuery: try today - stay forever, jQuery: JavaScript as it was meant, jQuery: efficient yet creative -- Marc Christopher Jordan schrieb: Yeah, but we probably don't want to slam other projects. That seems kinda like bad sportsmanship or bad geekmanship or something. Doing

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-08 Thread Christopher Jordan
Edwin Martin wrote: Christopher Jordan schreef: Yeah, but we probably don't want to slam other projects. That seems kinda like bad sportsmanship or bad geekmanship or something. Doing something like that may alienate more folks that it attracts. :o/ You're right. But we know why

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-08 Thread Jonathan Sharp
On 12/8/06, Christopher Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, but we probably don't want to slam other projects. That seems kinda like bad sportsmanship or bad geekmanship or something. Doing something like that may alienate more folks that it attracts. :o/ Here here! jQuery stands on its

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-08 Thread Dragan Krstic
No, let's made changing slogan. Each time new slogan, new first paragraph, with arrows to browse them! 2006/12/8, Jonathan Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 12/8/06, Christopher Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, but we probably don't want to slam other projects. That seems kinda like bad

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-08 Thread Rich Manalang
I just contributed the jQuery API doc to gotapi.com... let's see how long it takes them to get it up. Rich On 12/7/06, Edwin Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rey Bango wrote: Guys, some of you may know of my efforts to get jQuery more exposure. I think it would be a good idea to have jQuery

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-08 Thread Solid Source
in context: http://www.nabble.com/Efforts-to-Convert-Folks-to-jQuery-tf2774482.html#a7768443 Sent from the JQuery mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ jQuery mailing list discuss@jquery.com http://jquery.com/discuss/

[jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Rey Bango
Guys, some of you may know of my efforts to get jQuery more exposure. Part of that is pro-actively approaching Ajax notables in the ColdFusion community in an effort to get them to give some face time to jQuery. Well I'm happy to announce that it looks like I've converted one of the notables

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Joel Birch
Hi Rey, This is slightly off-topic of me but I'm not sure how else to get in contact with you. I just want you to know that I replied to your direct email a few weeks ago (regarding the case study), but I think my email didn't get past your junk filter. Please advise if you are still

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Sean O
in context: http://www.nabble.com/Efforts-to-Convert-Folks-to-jQuery-tf2774482.html#a7742535 Sent from the JQuery mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ jQuery mailing list discuss@jquery.com http://jquery.com/discuss/

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread digital spaghetti
Here is some notes I took on my blackberry. Sometimes I just get ideas like this and like to take them down. It's for getjquery.com which could be a great way to promote the library. Getjquery.org site ideas: Create a site in a similar vein to getfirefox.org, promoting the features and values

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Edwin Martin
Rey Bango wrote: Guys, some of you may know of my efforts to get jQuery more exposure. I think it would be a good idea to have jQuery on sites like gotapi.com. They're open for contributions (code, that is). Site: http://www.gotapi.com/ How to contribute your API:

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Alex Cook
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rey Bango Subject: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery The reason that I'm posting this is to encourage everyone to be pro-active in approaching the top names in your respective areas and development tools and telling them

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Solid Source
wrote: Guys, some of you may know of my efforts to get jQuery more exposure. ___ jQuery mailing list discuss@jquery.com http://jquery.com/discuss/ -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Efforts-to-Convert-Folks-to-jQuery

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread digital spaghetti
@jquery.com http://jquery.com/discuss/ -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Efforts-to-Convert-Folks-to-jQuery-tf2774482.html#a7744856 Sent from the JQuery mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ jQuery mailing list discuss

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Klaus Hartl
4. mochikit: Makes JavaScript suck less. - I love this one First I liked it too, after I thought about it, I don't like the attitude. Who said, JavaScript sucks...? I wouldn't want to program in a language that I think it sucks, with or without an API. I'm really wondering if the gurus think

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Klaus Hartl
digital spaghetti schrieb: Here is some notes I took on my blackberry. Sometimes I just get ideas like this and like to take them down. It's for getjquery.com which could be a great way to promote the library. I like that idea very much! getwhatever.com seems to become a quasi standard for

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Solid Source
/Efforts-to-Convert-Folks-to-jQuery-tf2774482.html#a7746239 Sent from the JQuery mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ jQuery mailing list discuss@jquery.com http://jquery.com/discuss/

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Solid Source
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Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Subway
of other libs (real world examples) 3. jQuery Site/Project of the week on the frontpage ... and maybe plugin of the week Fredi -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Efforts-to-Convert-Folks-to-jQuery-tf2774482.html#a7746952 Sent from the JQuery mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Rey Bango
Hey Joel, I'm out of town (I'm replying from the airport) and will be back on Monday. I'm definitely interested and will buzz you when I get back into town. I'm sorry I didn't get your reply and will provide you with a couple of emails in case your replies are getting caught by my filters.

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Rey Bango
Hey everyone, great feedback. I'm planning on aggregating all of your suggestions and presenting them to John to see how the jQuery effort can be better promoted. I'll be back on Monday and will collect all your suggestions and then send out an email for everyone to check out. Keep the

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Chris Domigan
1. There really should be a main menu on the frontpage (Download, Documentation, Community, Plugins, Tutorials ...) I believe there is. 2. A page where jQuery code is compared to code of other libs (real world examples) The blog has 2 or 3 comparisons like this, but they probably need to

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Brian Miller
Keep in mind that Bob Ippolito is a Python guru, and he specifically wrote mochikit to make JS behave a bit more like Python. To him, any language sucks if it uses C-family idioms. :) We can choose to be more positive, using a phrase like, Makes programming Web 2.0 fun! Or, something. - Brian

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Subway
honestly didn't see those footer menu links the first few days I started with jQuery. Fredi -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Efforts-to-Convert-Folks-to-jQuery-tf2774482.html#a7747499 Sent from the JQuery mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Christopher Jordan
Subway wrote: In the page footer, yes (and linked inside the frontpage text), but there should be a real menu near the top of the page. I honestly didn't see those footer menu links the first few days I started with jQuery. Fredi I didn't see them for the first few days either. I think

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Klaus Hartl
Brian Miller schrieb: Keep in mind that Bob Ippolito is a Python guru, and he specifically wrote mochikit to make JS behave a bit more like Python. To him, any language sucks if it uses C-family idioms. :) We can choose to be more positive, using a phrase like, Makes programming Web 2.0

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Jonathan Sharp
On 12/7/06, Solid Source [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Change the slogan New Wave Javascript to something more along the lines of explaining what it does or how it does it rather than what it is. Everyone thinks they are new wave right? :) jQuery: $(quick elegant javascript) -js

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Klaus Hartl
Jonathan Sharp schrieb: On 12/7/06, *Solid Source* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Change the slogan New Wave Javascript to something more along the lines of explaining what it does or how it does it rather than what it is. Everyone thinks they are new

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Alex Cook
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sharp Subject: Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery jQuery: $(quick elegant javascript) -js - THAT has some promise actually... ___ jQuery mailing list discuss

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Glen Lipka
Suggestions from the information architect in me: 1. Get a global navigation, The links at the bottom are not natural. At the top, in big buttons horizontal. a. Home b. Samples c. Plugins d. Support e. Download f. Blog a. Home This page should say what it is and have a

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Dave Methvin
I liked Dave's (or was it Dan - cannot find it anymore) quite recent quote. Something like: jQuery - makes JavaScript as short as if it read your mind. It was this thread: http://www.nabble.com/Change-href-of-external-links-tf2718387.html#a7627703 You start with 10 lines of jQuery that

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Solid Source
://jquery.com/discuss/ -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Efforts-to-Convert-Folks-to-jQuery-tf2774482.html#a7749080 Sent from the JQuery mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ jQuery mailing list discuss@jquery.com http://jquery.com

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Dragan Krstic
I like this one: *Cons* - New toolkit - Small community - Minimal documentation :) Guys made in depth analyse 2006/12/7, Sean O [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hey Rey, Someone posted an alternate comparison in the comments that did feature jQuery:

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Paul McLanahan
jQuery - Putting the DOM in its place. ___ jQuery mailing list discuss@jquery.com http://jquery.com/discuss/

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Andy Matthews
to Convert Folks to jQuery Suggestions from the information architect in me: 1. Get a global navigation, The links at the bottom are not natural. At the top, in big buttons horizontal. a. Home b. Samples c. Plugins d. Support e. Download f. Blog

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Jonathan Sharp
jQuery - DOM'inated On 12/7/06, Paul McLanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jQuery - Putting the DOM in its place. ___ jQuery mailing list discuss@jquery.com http://jquery.com/discuss/ ___ jQuery mailing

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Dragan Krstic
Actually, we discuss same stuff few weeks ago, and we where promised that new jquery site will come very soon. Only thing new I saw that site is havier to navigate (due to some content re-arrangment), there's no live demos in docs, and there's no demo page, just folder content. The first demo

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Jörn Zaefferer
Alex Cook schrieb: Did anyone ever see that 'Learn Ruby in 15 Minutes' app that floated around prolly a year ago now? http://tryruby.hobix.com/ I've been poking at trying to do something similar for jQuery. Hopefully this weekend I'll have something to share. Doing a screencast with

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Klaus Hartl
Andy Matthews schrieb: I'd have to agree with everything that Glen says, and I'd add something. Instead of just showing how powerful and easy jQuery is to use, why not show people how it compares to other libraries? Pick 5 or 10 things fairly common things, then show the code for each

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Klaus Hartl
Patrick Hall schrieb: Hi folks, What about some sort of interactive about or quick tour page? I imagine something like this: The page loads with a simple jQuery logo. When you click it (or after a short wait if the user can't figure out how to click ;-] ) a div#info slideDown()s

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Klaus Hartl
Jörn Zaefferer schrieb: Doing a screencast with some spoken explanation with some jQuery scripting on the firebug console could be a good introduction to jQuery. If you can script it on the console, you can script it everywhere! Interesting! I just had the idea of having a command line on

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Alex Cook
From: Klaus Hartl Subject: Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery Jörn Zaefferer schrieb: Doing a screencast with some spoken explanation with some jQuery scripting on the firebug console could be a good introduction to jQuery. If you can script it on the console, you can script

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Christopher Jordan
Dragan Krstic wrote: english is not my native You don't say! ;o) Well, it's not too shabby for not being a native speaker. :o) ...and lot of developers in love? I wish I were in love. lol! ;o)

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Glen Lipka
First paragraph Suggestion: jQuery is a javascript framework that is highly coupled to CSS and eliminates the cross-browser complexities of DOM scripting. If you love CSS, you will love jQuery. ___ jQuery mailing list discuss@jquery.com

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Dragan Krstic
2006/12/8, Christopher Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dragan Krstic wrote: english is not my native You don't say! ;o) Well, it's not too shabby for not being a native speaker. :o) I'm doing my best, but I use lot of I, and but, and actually and and ...and lot of developers in love?

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Clodelio Delfino
Agree with Glen but with some modifications, 1. Each navigation option should have a cool tooltip which uses jQuery describing or intro to its actual content. 2. Samples would be replace with a better word, e.g. See in Action , Cool Samples... , it should have a version of jquery and plugins

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Jeff Ober
Don't be a DOMass ;) --- Paul McLanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jQuery - Putting the DOM in its place. ___ jQuery mailing list discuss@jquery.com http://jquery.com/discuss/

Re: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

2006-12-07 Thread Stephen Woodbridge
I kind of like: jQuery: puts the fun back in JavaScript! [huge snip] ___ jQuery mailing list discuss@jquery.com http://jquery.com/discuss/