they have strange ways of saying it b/c they have different
constituencies who both inform them and who they speak with
regularly. Their audiences are vastly different and so their focus
needs to be different.
Talk to designers about UCD and they look at you like you're a
fucking idiot who knows
Ambrose, I don't even see an argument to be had.
Everyone is saying, we need balance in one way or another. But
when they say it they are just saying that this direction is too
much, or that direction is too much. Everyone from their diff POVs
see some other direction as that which needs to be
What Phillip said
Considerations in aesthetics beyond the visual
Design as problem solving vs. design as idea manifestation
Design Research
Getting designs executed
Tools Materials (not all hammers are equal and some are even bad
with nails)
Collaboration (designers non-designers)
Leaving
Jack, the item listing is all I can go on.
It is listed as, Formal Education vs. Self-taught
versus in my book is usually set up as a dichotomy.
1) There are huge important issues in just formal education
2) Even w/in self-taught there is a continuum, no? books,
conferences, mentorships, etc.
Hi David,
tons of examples:
Bank ATMs
All sorts of ticket vending machines (my faves of the moment):
MTA (New York City) metro card; Airport express train in both
Stockholm Oslo
Price checkers
auto-open doors windows
TV/Set top box systems
Keylocks in hotels
airline kiosks
all sorts of medical
me me me dave (dot) ixd (at) gmail (dot) com
(ps. there is something wrong w/ the web page here. It seems to be
giving a wierd style after Ruth up there. (several browsers))
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Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!
To
Russell, I think there are several issues w/ the question.
1) software design is a double noun where both nouns can't be
defined any further and add value. When reading it people know what
software is, and understand that design in its most simple use as
plan is really enough.
2) many people are
For sure it is NOT a masters degree. It is purely a certificate
program.
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Welcome to the
re: privacy and sensitivity of your messages
I agree w/ Jared 100%. EVERYTHING you send over the intertubes is
public record unless it is encrypted between the sender and
destination(s). Any additions to the system are tantamount to TSA
regulations which create a false understanding of the system
Andrei,
i go to like 5 movies a year (parental reality), so that comparison
is meaningless.
I made a suggestion based on MY! take looking at the video. You never
know if software is a fit until you get to use it. Paying for trial is
not the norm in the software world. If i can try Photoshop for
I HIGHLY suggest that anyone who knows Shaun ask him to open up his
purchase model to make available a 30-day trial. If like he says this
is like a software model and not a service model (wow! that is so
2001) then I suggest he map against the most common practices.
All the best UI in the world
Hi Adam,
I think stuff like Aurora and the stuff I did recently (and CIID did
in their program) and the stuff that the Cooper Drawing Board does
regularly now are solidly based in user research.
In the example we did at SCAD (http://iact.in/) much of the script
contains exact quotes taken from
Hi John,
This is exactly the stuff I do during the summer and december.
But I'd also say that orgs like Cooper and some others like them are
very happy to do design training and what not.
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I think this is an issue of the tool is not the criminal.
Every tool is a weapon if you hold it right -- Ani DiFranco
But if as Marc Rettig, Robert Fabricant John Thackara urged us in
Vancouver, we use our tools for things we feel deeply about then
GREAT.
But examples of our tools being used
angel, why no touch screens. Being a NYC resident for over 15 years,
many of which w/ the current metrocard system from an IxD
perspective, I don't understand the comment. Is this about hygene?
really? considering how much stuff we touch in a subway system like
seats and hand rails and turnstyles
Steve!!! This is amazing news!!!
I'm so excited. It seems that there is a new Aussie take-over in our
midst. I love it!!!
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Angel, I was seriously considering doing something like this w/ my
students from SCAD.
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Richard, you believe deeply in the need for collaboration for
yourself. That's great!
Here's what I suggest you do.
Do it
Don't wait for the organizations to come along and do it. Just do
it. If you feel that we are doing this work at a snail's pace, then
figure out ways to increase the
Let's not forget about Australia, Brasil, Italy, England, Malmo,
China, and a host of other places where IxD, IA and Joint events are
taking place in the coming 12months.
(btw, I really liked what you said Peter Mo.)
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Great clip. I love it!!!
look at my response to Josh. What is funny is that as the situation
subsides, people are chiming in with messages like this.
It shows me that people don't get it. Arguing is not destructive.
Arguing is learning. It is sketching in language.
The most obvious brilliant
Joshua,
It is also important every once in a while when your seaman got a bug
up their butt to let them have a good old fashion bar brawl. It is
healthy especially in this circumstance.
To be honest, there have been some great posts in this series of
threads that so far have lasted about 3 days.
Richard, with all due respect,
There is nothing new now from before and while you took a snapshot
and while your own emotions are at play, your analysis of IxDA is
thin at best.
The differences culturally between the orgs is HUGE, IMHO. and if you
want to talk overlap, the greatest overlap
I don't think the # of organizations matter.
Or at least (and this is not a shot) they don't matter if the
organizations themselves create open models of membership. If
membership is your issue, then please talk to the other
organizations where you feel at home and discuss with them that model
to
[Thanx Dan for that good analysis. I just can't resist to adding what
I wrote before I read it.]
IAI focus is information and on the web
IxDA focus is behavior and across all mediums
IAI is a closed memberbased organization
IxDA is an open organization
(I think there are more issues to this
So?
Aren't we already talking at WebVisions, and WebDirections? Isn't
there a big UX component at Agile2009?
I have spoken about UX and IxD at IDSA and others at AIGA.
There is nothing new under the sun here.
And it just sounds like now what you are talking about is appropriate
messaging to
hmm?
if all you are looking for is common ground, that is obviously there.
The research methods that IAs and IxDs and hell all designer
researchers employ is probably our nexus of overlap. It is the UCD
that we share. But what do you want to do with that common ground?
what is your goal?
1 big
The common ground is research and a value system that researching
users (not just markets and technology) is an important step in
designing solutions.
that statement about experiences suck we want to create better
ones is implicit in IxDA, but IxDA does not pretend that IxD is the
sole arbiter
So in solidarity with my Kiwi friend, I won't post to IxDA any more
today.
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Welcome
I hate 1500 or 3000 person conferences. I find they devoid of depth,
usually with bad infrastructure and you always feel overwhelmed.
Don't go to 3. Pick one! make it your own and stick w/ it. Then
if/when you have resources to move from your base, move on.
All the conferences have breadth to
I was stating my opinion Christian.
Richard was trying to state that X is better than Y, the pretext of
which is that doing both is a waste of time. This was exemplified by
him saying I don't want to go to 3 smaller conferences. As if to
say, the choices are the problem.
If I would Richard, I
keypad layout
General button controls
port configurations or back panels
Eco-system integration
Power management communications
Voice communication systems
Scripts for service agents
Near-field systems
Barcode applications
It isn't whether or not it is non-software, but whether or not the
Jarod, I don't like it. I find it to be ..
1) reminiscent of MS
2) too brash and distracting
More importantly it has in no way shape or form improved my
relationship with Google (or diminished it).
I think people have missed my point.
I think design is not for or against data, but design should
HI Jackson,
On your 2 pts.
re: trends
No doubt the UI is getting more complex and the need for amazing
programmers to work on them is important. But I think tools like
Blend and Catalyst are stepping in and putting in a new layer that
previously wasn't there and enabling designers to more
Yes, Patrick there is a lot of it depends and YMMV to the reality
of all this.
But if ActionScript and pixel perfect design is beyond you.
Please move to strategy and management. Please!
The economies of scale require that there is a UI Designer. ONE
person. The age of having an IxD, a Visual
I really feel you folks are confusing mock-up with prototype.
IMHO, if I can't use it, it ain't a prototype. Maybe, human as
computer paper-prototypes fit the bill, but otherwise, a series of
screens, are mock-ups and an interactive click-through is a
prototype.
The distinction is important b/c
I'm staying out of the fray of this really stupid thread and sticking
with the first question.
Andrei, for embedded computing please also consider adding arduino
and similar board-level prototyping methods. But often embedded
software interacts with non software interfaces. So being able to
A timely piece by David Cronin of Cooper for Adobe:
http://tr.im/gUM6
(Shhh! its on prototyping!)
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Professor of Service Design
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A while back Dan Saffer gave a great talk for NYC IxDA hosted by the very
generous R/GA. R/GA also put together this video so that everyone in the
IxDA community (and beyond) could experience this great talk.
http://vimeo.com/2761844
I'd like to add that Dan is one of our amazing Keynotes, so
I am forwarding this from Elizabeth Tunstall whohas done some great
work on trying to create a national design policy here in the US. I
know that other countries have already created design policy groups,
but in the US we haven't, so her leadership in this area is a pretty
big deal.
Anyway, I
For me the IxD strategy portion is about creating the narrative that
is the framework around the interactions and interfaces we design.
In the end interaction designers are the story tellers and the
interface and industrial designers are the production artists of the
theater that is the user
, 2009
3. Scott Berkun -- UX and project management -- Friday, April 3rd, 2009
4. David Malouf -- sketching and interaction design -- Wednesday,
June 24th, 2009
5. Dan Brown Nathan Curtis -- UX documentation/deliverables --
Tuesday, September 8th, 2009
6. Bolt|Peters -- remote
I wonder how a device like this:
http://www.gizmowatch.com/entry/olpc-xo-2-dual-touchscreen-concept-laptop-to-sell-for-75/
Changes the the requirement for a mouse?
I know it is only a concept but if I think about multiple touch
planes instead of a single one, I can do both indirect (touch pad)
Hey there,
I know many people were waiting for the calendar to change before
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Howdy people,
I wanted to send out a notice to you all that as part of the list of
spectacular workshops for Interaction 09 | Vancouver
(http://interaction09.ixda.org/) I'm going to be teaching a 1/2 day
workshop, Introduction to Interaction Design.
in the article). What
do people think about this in our domain as IxDers?
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Jeff, I think my gut feel was really similar to yours.
I do have to say though that about 4 years ago when I was considering
going to Pratt for my masters in ID, I took some time out to do an
information interview with a local ID now interactive design agency
principal, John Payne (you
Fred, in all fairness, I think you are being pedantic in your defense
of Axure. Axure is not a hosted solution, so even though your
solutions are exported into HTML, that is not the same thing as a
hosted shared environment that RapidRab.it is all about and I think
they make a good case that a
Woot!!!
What a great group of peeps!!! I'm so very excited! as we move
towards another HUGE milestone in this organization.
I really look forward to see what these new energized players do
for/with IxDA in the coming years.
Exciting times.
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Janna, the Beach theme definitely changed throughout the day/night.
Also, there are cute little entertaining things through out many of
the themes.
Steve, I hate the whole custom (pick this color, that color). So few
people actually create anything that I would want to represent my
brand. I also
I don't have the link, but somewhere on LukeW's site lukew.com there
is a post about what they did at Yahoo in terms of career path. I also
know that MS is doing similar working in the area of career path in
their UX groups.
The way I look at it from my experience is that any designer role
should
Most influential book: Digital Ground by Malcolm McCullough
Important IxD books:
Sketching User Experience - B. Buxton
Design of Everyday Things - D. Norman
Designing Interactions - B. Moggridge
Designing for Interaction - D. Saffer
Inmates are Running the Asylum - A. Cooper
Elements of User
I'm less concerned about DRM and moving product between devices. That
is a choice of the consumer. Buy from Amazon if you don't like iTunes
(or Walmart). Or buy Android or Nokia if you don't like iPhone.
What bothers me, which I think Dan's rights are most important for
is my data. My attention
Dan Saffer (aka @odannyboy) posted this interesting collection of user
rights, in the spirit of the Declaration of Human Rights which is coming up
on a milestone anniversary.
http://www.kickerstudio.com/blog/2008/11/a-universal-declaration-of-users-rights/
Whatchya'all think?
-- dave
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David
I am on the early preview list, but am Mac-less and thus can't look
at it yet.
No offense to our fine Fireworks/Adobe reps on this list, but What
were you thinking. Every Mac out there (in the last 3 years) is
capable of running Windows ... No one on a Windows box can run MacOS.
REALLY stupid
always get
more read. But the interesting ones are
Konigi
Putting People First
eHub
These 3 are all over 40%
They are 3 VERY different blogs, but I think it says a lot about their
quality as opposed to the subject matter.
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In using Larry Constantine's view of ACD, I don't find any
discernible difference of value between ACD and UCD. It is neither
parallel or contained within one vs. the other.
It just seems like a specific way of reframing that which already
existed as UCD for the previous 30 years. What was
depending on the total context of the design
environment.
--dave
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If I were designing it from a UCD perspective, I do care, or that the
person is elderly and needs large
Oy! I'm just going to ignore that Doc thing.
To answer Adrian,
If I were to design Flickr from an ACD POV I only care about the
activities of uploading, tagging, sharing, viewing, mapping, etc.
I really don't care whether primary persona A's goal for sharing is
to become the next Annie
I want to take a moment to calm down and apologize.
I'm sorry to the community and to the board. I guess I had a bee in
my bonnet.
I'm glad that this discussion is going to push things into a more
transparent mode, but any transparency can only exist in a community
of trust and I apologize for
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A few thoughts:
Jeff, nice try trying to help the board save face, but besides the
money for the visual design, to say that it was really anything but
all you for the last 2 years, would be changing humility, to down
right revisionism. Yes, the board supports you, but heck, they
really don't have
Isn't presence just the ability to know availability information like
in an IM client? Will, it feels pretty standard to me.
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obviously there is a host of meta data that can further appended on
the old honeycomb that we know today and I know YOU are smart
enough to do just that. ;-)
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Simple and yes even simplicity is right up there with intuitive on
words to describe the quality of something that lead to long drawn
out threads without a lot of practical gibblets in there.
Why? B/c both terms are about mental models. What is simple is a
personal reaction to the system one is
Rob Andy this is a key point (redistribution of complexity - does
this make us all socialists?). It is a key problem for us in dealing
with stakeholders. Biz folks see a simpler GUI, and think it should
be cheaper, but in fact is much more of an investment to do this type
of redistribution. I
What do people feel about crowdsourcing design efforts like the new WePC.com
by ASUS Intel?
http://www.wepc.com/
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Why don't we start with a more altruistic project? Let's crowdsource
the design of the community of practice!
Let's start a Sourceforge site and go! Maybe an OSS corp like
Mozilla will support us. But a design led OSS project could be a HUGE
evangelism effort, as well as produce something we need
Like many design problems, you can't ignore the legacy issues when
designing for the future solutions.
Jeff has done an amazing job, pretty much single-handedly of making
up for the negatives of a pure email system, while maintaining its
advantages.
Jeff Howard FTW (on ixda.org)
-- dave
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be if we all agreed on what
problems needed solutions?
Jared
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Barbara, The idea seems good, but even from the video it is hard to
know how it all executes. But to the point of the thread there are a
ton of Visual elements throughout the design ecosystem for sure!
Please send a Pen notebook my way for evaluation and review. ;-)
-- dave
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That subvocalization thing
An MS Surface (or the kids table)
RFID other NFC technologies
Biometrics (not just for security purposes)
ok, Multi-touch.
I think a real lesson on touch screen technologies. Examples of
4-wire 5-wire touch screens, capacitive, inductive, etc. I don't
think most of us
2 thoughts on the 140char count:
1. It has actually improved my writing and worsened my spelling.
2. Ya know, you can write across multiple tweets.
Cindy, great story. Ambient Intimacy is a great way of shoring up
long distance relationships for sure.
I guess Billy D or Rusty U.
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The folks over at Bressler Group under Robert Tanen came up with a
nifty tool for the field researcher on your Chrismakawanzisolkah list.
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what gets me is how valuable this would be for more than UX, but
extend it to almost any field observation recon auditing type
activity.
I likey!
I'd like to buy a set for my contextual research project class,
please. ;-)
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till the end of the year: Dan Brown, Steve Portigal, Dan Saffer Bill
Derouchey, and many more.
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Niklas,
I hear this argument a lot about many social networks that are
started in the US or UK, but I've noticed a trend.
Brazilians Portuguese just don't give a sh*t. ;-)
Nor do Israelis, Japanese and many other non-Europeans and well
Europeans. ;-)
Open up Twittervision and not only will you
institution been able to really replicate it. Or maybe I'm
wrong, and there are others, and then I'd love to hear about which
ones are doing it and what they're up to.
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IxDA has 2 accounts right now (that I've seen).
@interaction09 for the upcoming conference and @ixda which is for
anyone.
The cool thing about @ixda is that it is set up as a grouptweet and
so if you direct message d ixda [message] it goes to all the
followers. Pretty neat!
I'm at @daveixd
For
The way i see it, it is the intermediate of IRC IM.
It has the advantages of individual asynchronous talking that IM
brings, but can also lead to real-time conversation to a group that
IRC brings.
It is like a train I can jump on and off of. It is referencable. i.e.
I can mark a tweet as a
OH! and did people see what Current.tv did w/ Twitter during the
debates. While I know that some have seen IM over MTv the way that I
could reply to people was very dfiferent than the IM/MTv space and it
all being done in a very open way was empowering. Why? B/c I knew that
500 people saw it
regnard,
I was also a big plurk advocate when it first came out. My issue w/
plurk is that it is the Betamax of Twitter. It just doesn't have the
critical mass to keep me there and so now it is just annoying.
I wonder if someone using the API of twitter can replicate the GUI.
Interesting
Hi Jack,
And how many practitioners have taken Daniel Boyarski's course? How
has that course been made manifest in the great part of practice?
I think it is one thing to say that there is a theory put out there
like Jonas' Pliability, but quite another to say that that same
theory has reached the
Hiya, to be a little more tactful than my buddy Will.
I have sent employees to NNG specifically to the 3-day Tog event
(while older than Nielsen he is not someone I would say one should
brush aside as quickly as will did). The event though is very costly.
I think if you want that type of
To be honest, there may or may not be any difference at all at the
level of practice. One term has gained more traction as it has moved
away from GUI software design where UI has been prevelant and has
been encompassing systems design and hardware interface design as
well as service design. In
I don't think I was being revisionist. I do think that new
complexities outside of screen/mouse/keyboard have meant that
learnings from traditional UI Design (in your world) have been
married with other disciplines and have congealed towards the
creation of a new creole discipline of sorts. I
Will, that's a very expansive definition. I'm afraid if you go
there, you just end up on that slippery slop that everything is
design. And if you zoom out far enough, yup you end up there. All the
points are human interaction points. Every symbol bit of white space
in a graphic is a moment to
GREAT thread. Before I go all up and theoretical, I wanted to point
people to Jon Kolko's work in this regard. He is my predecessor at
SCAD as the Prof of IxD there. He has his course materials and other
thoughts on IxD education on his site:
http://www.jonkolko.com/education.php
I think what I
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Daniel,
I think there is a very big difference between hiring an
international organization to do local research/design and hiring an
organization to do work either b/c you don't internally have the
resource or because you can supplement your resources with cheaper
labor.
I interpreted the
Also, Liya and Jannine will be giving the studio as a workshop at
Intearction09 | Vancouver.
Save $50 on workshop fees before Dec. 31 (currently 1st 50 peeps save
$100 on conf registration itself).
There are a host of other great workshops we are putting together
including my Intro to IxD. All
Hi Atul,
I'm going to be straight up with you. I have not had a single
positive experience with ANY offshoring experience to date, whether
UX related or engineering related or even QA. What I have found
though is that the level of success is increased the more you can
throw it over the wall. I.e.
yea, @Jared did a review and there were others done recently
juxtaposed to Jared's.
I found Jared's to be very utilitarian (unlike him actually),
compared to the designory reviews of the others.
In looking at the candidates sites one can't only look at getting
to X page, but one must also look
Wow! what a great conversation.
I need to totally agree and forgive me also disagree.
For the types of artifacts (media) that is being discussed thus far
visual design in many respects is the receptical for the interactions
we are designing and thus the communication layer. Successful
I also think it really depends on the collborative environment you
want to work in. I have had much more success working with great
visual/3D folks than doing it on my own. They are deep in viz and
I'm deep in IxD and the combination is rocket fuel when applied
well.
So I don't think this is an
cum entrepreneurs that do work in
Stem and Genetics without having anything to sell for quite some
time with HUGE public valuations. Is there anything like this in IxD?
-- dave
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David Malouf
http://synapticburn.com/
http://ixda.org/
http://motorola.com
back in the 70's?
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:23 AM, David Malouf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there the possibility (or does it exist already) of a segment of
organizations who's sole purpose is to do research for 10-20 years on
UX/IxD related stuff to churn out 1 amazing piece
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