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Philip Meyer;292239 Wrote:
I believe most people with classical music collections use Band for
storing the orchestra, because there isn't a specific orchestra tag.
That's a mis-use of the tag to some degree, but it isn't a mis-use of
functionality. Album artist is for grouping, whereas a
Philip Meyer;292118 Wrote:
Hmmm, interesting - it works for me.
Eg. A single album by album artist=Alio Die Saffron Wood, has two
track artists: Alio Die, Saffron Wood.
Alio Die Saffron Wood appears in the browse artists list. I
haven't got any other albums by either track artist,
It's probably worth adding that in my problem cases, not a single track
has the ALBUMARTIST as the TRACKARTIST. For example, the CD with
ALBUMARTIST=Lee Perry, but the TRACKARTISTS include The Upsetters, Max
Romeo, etc, but never Lee Perry. Is that the case for your album?
Yes. Each song has
Philip Meyer;292541 Wrote:
Yes. Each song has ALBUMARTIST=Alio Die Saffron Wood, and that
artist string doesn't exist anywhere else.
Each song has ARTIST=Alio Die and ARTIST=Saffron Wood, so none of
the artist names match.Well, in that case I can't see the difference in our
setups. Very
Philip Meyer;292239 Wrote:
If this is correct, and I assume it is as you have said it, then why
are you insisting that using band tag as album artist for the lead
band
of an album is the wrong way?
I am not really saying it is the wrong way, just not the right way for
Nonreality;292587 Wrote:
Everything worked as advertised other than a problem I've having with a
few duplicate albums showing up containing 1 to 3 songs. It's getting
these from my C: drive which I still have a copy of my library but have
moved it to my K: drive (seagate usb drive). I
snarlydwarf;292588 Wrote:
Playlists or CUE sheets that point to the old files? Or something like
iTunes/MusicIP that point to the old ones?
Just traced it about an hour ago. I renamed my library in explored and
did a scan so only the strange albums showed up. It was my playlists.
I don't
JimC;291850 Wrote:
I'm not sure what prompted the useBandAsAlbumArtist variable to be
added, or how it was intended to be used, but the whole issue of
normalizing tags is currently being reviewed (there's a LOT to it) and
how we will provide additional mapping flexibility has yet to be
Philip Meyer;291771 Wrote:
So, my solution is to
use mp3tag and add ALBUMARTIST where I think it makes sense. That
approach actually has some benefits, since it frees tag BAND to be
used
for other purposes, like Band or Orchestra, and that helps very much
for
complex tagging.
Exactly.
So, to help out with sorting this issue, here is another point.
Composer don't show on artist list even if it is ticked off in
'Composer, Band and Orchestra in Artists' setting. It would show for
non compilation albums, but not for compilations regardless of wether
all tracks are marked with the
... and while I am on it, searching functionality doesn't work with
BAND tag.
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slimkid;292083 Wrote:
... and while I am on it, searching functionality doesn't work with
BAND tag.
K
I've previously set up band to show as Album Artist in mp3tag. What is
the proper method to get albumartist to show up in mp3tag. Thought I'd
give your technique a shot but I have to test
if I have an
album with multiple track artists and a single album artist who doesn't
appear on any other album, no amount of option or tag tweaking will get
that album artist into the artist list *without* getting the track
artists in there as well (I call this the Lee Perry or Larry Levan
problem
snarlydwarf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It is easy for me to believe because the proper place to do that is in
the scanner when the db is built (specifically in MP3.pm).
That section of code is used only for display, and well after the DB
has been loaded.
Again, it does not make sense to
Phil Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
if I have an
album with multiple track artists and a single album artist who doesn't
appear on any other album, no amount of option or tag tweaking will get
that album artist into the artist list *without* getting the track
artists in there as well (I
JimC [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We're working on the best way to handle all of this.
Thank you Jim, I appreciate your efforts to get to the bottom of
all this tag interpretation stuff..
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Also, as has been pointed out by others, the proper place to do what
has been requested is not in the scanner, because you don't want to
force a rescan when changing the option.
I think it should be an option appropriate only to the scanner. I believe we
are NOT saying that any scanned Band
The one thing I'm conflicted over is that if I do have another real
album by an artist that is a track artist of a single song on an album
I'm using an album artist on, that album shows up with the track
artist's other albums as an album of one song.
Sometimes I think I don't want it to appear at
gregklanderman;292207 Wrote:
JimC JimC.37xqhz1208307601 (AT) no-mx (DOT)
forums.slimdevices.com writes:
We're working on the best way to handle all of this.
Thank you JimC, I appreciate your efforts to get to the bottom of
all this tag interpretation stuff..
greg
I agree with
If this is correct, and I assume it is as you have said it, then why
are you insisting that using band tag as album artist for the lead band
of an album is the wrong way?
I am not really saying it is the wrong way, just not the right way for
SlimServer/SqueezeCenter, which has never supported it
Philip Meyer;291416 Wrote:
Not true. It displays as Album by Artist, what
SqueezeCenter is much more intelligent and conformant to standards. I
dare say that something will be changed to allow it to work in a
non-standard way to make it act like iTunes.
I'm not sure how intelligent it
I'm not losing my mind over this but I'm telling you
it's not a problem with my tags but with the way the Squeeze server
deals with it.
Oh no, not another one...
I bet you it is your tags, and you haven't read the numerous posts in this
thread about the differences of album artist and band.
I
slimkid;291396 Wrote:
Look, that has been beaten up in this thread already. It is now in SD
hands to do something about it. Will they - I don't know.
With all the speed of addressing List by Band confusion? I won't hold
my breathe.
slimkid;291396 Wrote:
The question is, whether you are
bullgod;291679 Wrote:
...You offered me a solution to a different problem, and you're
surprised I declined it. I wonder if you ever really understood the
problem? ...
Nice, flashy sentence. Care to elaborate? With arguments, perhaps? Show
that you understood the solution I offered?
K
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slimkid;291690 Wrote:
Nice, flashy sentence. Care to elaborate? With arguments, perhaps? Show
that you understood the solution I offered?
K
Because your solution is already in place
(viz. all tracks in the the album in question have Compilation = 0)
and this does not have the desired
bullgod;291720 Wrote:
Because your solution is already in place
(viz. all tracks in the the album in question have Compilation = 0)
and this does not have the desired effect.
If this isn't your solution, or I have misunderstood it in some way
then I apologise unreservedly.
It doesn't
So, my solution is to
use mp3tag and add ALBUMARTIST where I think it makes sense. That
approach actually has some benefits, since it frees tag BAND to be used
for other purposes, like Band or Orchestra, and that helps very much for
complex tagging.
Exactly. That is the correct solution - tag
slimkid;291760 Wrote:
My grudge with SD is that most of those things are not documented, or
even worse, the existing docs are poor and missleading. For example, I
only learned about ALBUMARTIST internal tag and its importance in prior
discussion with Snarly. Now, I'm even afraid they will
kdf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
i don't think it has ANYTHING to do with mapping. TPE2 is SC7 internal
tag BAND period. and no current option affects that. it currents only
affects how things are denoted when displayed.
correct. The pref, 'useBandAsAlbumArtist' is only used in one place
The description needs clarification no matter how you slice it.
From what I've read in this thread, the current implementation, which
does nothing more than use BAND as a display substitute for an album's
byline, is being used as a kludge for SqueezeCenter's complete lack of
support for
gregklanderman;291832 Wrote:
It is *very* hard for me to believe with an internal name as clear as
'useBandAsAlbumArtist' that the preference was not intended to cause
any BAND(TPE2) tags to be treated as though they were ALBUMARTIST
tags, for exactly the reason MrSinatra wants.
It is
gregklanderman;291832 Wrote:
kdf slim-mail (AT) deane-freeman (DOT) com writes:
i don't think it has ANYTHING to do with mapping. TPE2 is SC7
internal
tag BAND period. and no current option affects that. it currents
only
affects how things are denoted when displayed.
correct.
No it isn't good enough. Quite contrary. The most advertised tagging
program here, mp3tag, allows not to change a file update date
(preserves it, to be exact)
I predominantly use mp3tag, which is configured to update the timestamp.
You should untick Mp3Tag Options Tags Preserve file
It works fine for not showing artists in the artist list if that is
their only performance. However, it also doesn't allow you to go
(following artist link, drilling down by tag) to other albums of that
artist if there are any.
You're right. That seems undesirable to me - it only shows other
Perhaps, but is this thread not the continuation of a thread that I
began?
I'm sorry, I never saw the original thread. This one was pointed out to me
from a bug that was hijacked. I don't read much in the discuss mailing list,
because it's full of unnecessary chaff.
iTunes. I'm not talking about multiple artist tags, just multiple
artist in one tags. Nonetheless, iTune is still bright enough to list
and sort by Album Artist.
No it's not. It displays as Band. And it's far from intelligent. Quite awful
in fact.
If I understand correctly, it sounds to me as though bullgod's
requirements could be met with the following additional logic:
If every track has TRACKARTIST=Artist X (even if some tracks have
multiple TRACKARTIST tags) and ALBUMARTIST is not already set, then set
ALBUMARTIST=Artist X.
No, what
smc2911;291050 Wrote:
If I understand correctly, it sounds to me as though bullgod's
requirements could be met with the following additional logic:
If every track has TRACKARTIST=Artist X (even if some tracks have
multiple TRACKARTIST tags) and ALBUMARTIST is not already set, then set
Philip Meyer;291157 Wrote:
iTunes. I'm not talking about multiple artist tags, just multiple
artist in one tags. Nonetheless, iTune is still bright enough to list
and sort by Album Artist.
No it's not. It displays as Band. And it's far from intelligent.
Quite awful in fact.
Not true.
Philip Meyer;291160 Wrote:
If I understand correctly, it sounds to me as though bullgod's
requirements could be met with the following additional logic:
If every track has TRACKARTIST=Artist X (even if some tracks have
multiple TRACKARTIST tags) and ALBUMARTIST is not already set, then
JJZolx;291115 Wrote:
pfarrell;291088 Wrote:
JJZolx wrote:
No. There's nothing in the database right now that can't be destroyed
and rebuilt from scratch with a library scan.
You are correct that the current implementation relies on destroying
the database with every scan.
Philip Meyer;291154...You should untick Mp3Tag Options Tags Preserve file
modification Time when saving tags.[/QUOTE Wrote:
Well, I know that. But I want to be able to use it as it serves good
purpose.
@snarly jjZolx too. I know that about the allocated tag space also.
Point of my
bullgod;291228 Wrote:
No. I don't think it will. Because I have ALBUM ARTIST set, and that's
what I want SC to key on.
Most of my desired functionality will be achieved by turning off, or
overriding, the logic that says:
Albums with tracks where artists aren't all the same, implies an
snarlydwarf wrote:
That depends on the program. It can be last-modified-time, size, md4
or some other hash.
MD4 is way obsolete. Use at least a SHA1.
Computing md4 on every file would be rather time consuming for a fast
scan: it should not be the default.
I agree it has to be a user
pfarrell;291350 Wrote:
snarlydwarf wrote:
That depends on the program. It can be last-modified-time, size,
md4
or some other hash.
MD4 is way obsolete. Use at least a SHA1.
Computing md4 on every file would be rather time consuming for a
fast
scan: it should not be the
slimkid;291329 Wrote:
@snarly jjZolx too. I know that about the allocated tag space also.
Point of my post is, there are ways to recognize that the file has
changed and re-scan it beyond checking the change date. No need to
check all tags either (ZZolx). And the current solution is only
slimkid;291332 Wrote:
In order to achieve what you want, just set COMPILATION tag to 0 for
every track that contains the artist you DO wish to show on the artist
list.
I don't like this solution because it is undocumented and it is
internal and can change with the next change to scaner
pfarrell;291350
MD4 is way obsolete. Use at least a SHA1.
[/QUOTE Wrote:
I didn't say that is what I would use. I said that is what programs
use in order to do incremental backups when they cannot rely on
filesize or modification time. Specifically, rsync uses md4: whether
you believe
bullgod;291362 Wrote:
You, too, have missed the point.
The point is not that artist fail to appear in the Artist list.
The point is to get albums with tracks from different artists to appear
under
Home-Artist-Album Artist.
I already have Compilation = 0 on all these tracks.
Then
bullgod;291362 Wrote:
You, too, have missed the point.
The point is not that artist fail to appear in the Artist list.
The point is to get albums with tracks from different artists to appear
under
Home-Artist-Album Artist.
I already have Compilation = 0 on all these tracks.
But
slimkid;291376 Wrote:
But they should. Are you sure you are using ALBUMARTIST tag and not BAND
tag? Can you check in some specialised software like mp3tag?
K
If you look at the picture I posted on page 10 of this thread you will
see that irrespective of whatever or wherever the internal
FYI, to possibly add to the confusion. :D
Mp3tag, a leading tagging tool, maps what is calls BAND to MP3 IDv2.3
TPE2. This is fairly normal. It also directly maps it's BAND
variable to WM/AlbumArtist for WMA content, and to the aART atom for
M4A content. (These two are real Album Artist
bullgod;291385 Wrote:
...Look it might be Band it might be something else. I might be
persuaded to use some other tool, but Mrs bullgod won't be, neither
will 99.9% of the world.
...
Look, that has been beaten up in this thread already. It is now in SD
hands to do something about it.
Not true. It displays as Album by Artist, what the internal
representation of this is I don't care.
That image is a picture of iTunes - what relevance has that to the content of
your SqueezeCenter library?
Out of curiosity, what version of iTunes do you use? I have v7.6.2.9 which
allows the
Philip Meyer;291416 Wrote:
Out of curiosity, what version of iTunes do you use? I have v7.6.2.9
which allows the user to show Artist, Album Artist and/or Sort
Album Artist. I can't see an Album by Artist column like yours.Album by
Artist is a sort view. Click on the Album column header
I don't know if checksum would be viable option here since it would be
faster to do a full clean rescan. However, there are other ways. If I
was to design to solution I'd make it user cofigurable: tick whether
you want it checked by date, or/and by size and/or by archive attribute
and do you want
Album by Artist is a sort view. Click on the Album column header and
it'll swap between Album, Album by Artist Album By Fear as you
click.
Ah, thanks! It's another dodgy iTunes hack. It's only possible to sort by
clicking on one column header, so when you want to sort by artist and then by
Phil Meyer wrote:
I don't know if checksum would be viable option here since it would
be faster to do a full clean rescan.
Yes, you could calculate a checksum, read it from the database, and
if different read the file content again. Pretty pointless - a full
rescan would be faster!
Its
Philip Meyer;291506 Wrote:
Sorting by Album By Fear sounds interesting. Does it put the scariest
albums at the top or bottom :-)Yeah, I fixed that. :) Though that might be
handy in a future
release... ;-)
It's not possible to sort descending.Get ready for this one: You click on the
Get ready for this one: You click on the little arrow at the end of
column header to switch between ascend and descend.
How about that, you learn something new each day.
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Philip Meyer;290932 Wrote:
Please, please, please can the issue of which tags, which version of
tags etc but put aside for one thread.
I'm afraid not - it's kind of fundamental. Whilst a user may not want
to care about tags, if music doesn't have tags, they can't really hope
for
The discussion of tags and their interpretation is entirely different to
the main problem, there are too many developers here who are missing the
other, and more important problem: usability.
Please, please, please can the issue of which tags, which version of
tags etc but put aside for one
The discussion of tags and their interpretation is entirely different to
the main problem, there are too many developers here who are missing the
other, and more important problem: usability.
I'm sorry, but I disagree. I believe developers are very conscious of
usability, and do a good job of
Philip Meyer;290932 Wrote:
The discussion of tags and their interpretation is entirely different
to
the main problem, there are too many developers here who are missing
the
other, and more important problem: usability.
I'm sorry, but I disagree. I believe developers are very conscious
- scanner. Last time I mentioned that its functionality to recognize
changed tracks isn't good enough - does it solely based on file update
date vs last scan date.
Is that not good enough? If tags or actual song data change, most tools that
write the content back will cause the last changed
Philip Meyer;290932 Wrote:
bullgod;290899 Wrote:
The discussion of tags and their interpretation is entirely different
to
the main problem, there are too many developers here who are missing
the
other, and more important problem: usability.
I'm sorry, but I disagree. I
If I understand correctly, it sounds to me as though bullgod's
requirements could be met with the following additional logic:
If every track has TRACKARTIST=Artist X (even if some tracks have
multiple TRACKARTIST tags) and ALBUMARTIST is not already set, then set
ALBUMARTIST=Artist X.
You'd
I've been using album artist to keep albums together and artist so that
I could see who is on the track. I started with Itunes, then went to
Media Monkey and I use mp3tag to correct everything. It was with mp3tag
that I discovered that I had to use band to see album artist. I didn't
know about
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Philip Meyer;290980 Wrote:
- scanner. Last time I mentioned that its functionality to recognize
changed tracks isn't good enough - does it solely based on file update
date vs last scan date.
Is that not good enough? If tags or actual song data change, most
tools that write the content back
slimkid;291079 Wrote:
No it isn't good enough. Quite contrary. The most advertised tagging
program here, mp3tag, allows not to change a file update date
(preserves it, to be exact) when changing tags. Purpose of this would
be that, when using New Music option (one very useful and well though
Philip Meyer;290980 Wrote:
- concept and handling of 'track artist' contributor type. Basically,
if there is ALBUMARTIST defined for the album, then all ARTISTs
become
trackartists. There is no connection between the guy who is ARTIST on
one and trackartist on another album. It is not
JJZolx wrote:
If SqueezeCenter ever
gets to the point where clearing the database (which takes just a split
second) is undesirable or unnecessary then add a third scan option to do
a full scan without first clearing the database.
Clearly the database is already undesirable. We just haven't
Sorry, typo alert
Pat Farrell wrote:
JJZolx wrote:
If SqueezeCenter ever
gets to the point where clearing the database (which takes just a split
second) is undesirable or unnecessary then add a third scan option to do
a full scan without first clearing the database.
Clearly the database
slimkid;290974 Wrote:
A code following it handles timestamp but not size. So they even knew
that there was a problem but for some reason choose not to solve it.
Most likely removed to speed up rescans and because it isn't as useful
as you would think.
Most taggers pad. This is true not
pfarrell;291088 Wrote:
JJZolx wrote:
If SqueezeCenter ever
gets to the point where clearing the database (which takes just a
split
second) is undesirable or unnecessary then add a third scan option to
do
a full scan without first clearing the database.
Clearing the database is
Hi MrSinatra,
please, help me understand one thing about all this issue. You claim
that you can't use existing features regarding the BAND option. I
understand that ALBUMARTIST would work for you (I'm talking internal
tags). Now, from a limited number of mp3 files I have, it looks like it
is
slimkid;290187 Wrote:
Hi MrSinatra,
please, help me understand one thing about all this issue. You claim
that you can't use existing features regarding the BAND option. I
understand that ALBUMARTIST would work for you (I'm talking internal
tags). Now, from a limited number of mp3 files I
MrSinatra;290193 Wrote:
i do not see why i must get yet another program and retag all my stuff
AND all new future stuff. its a pointless and unnecessary extra step.
You would probably want to anyway: to change TCMP (unless you went to
iTunes to change just that one tag), to add various
snarlydwarf;290194 Wrote:
You would probably want to anyway: to change TCMP (unless you went to
iTunes to change just that one tag), to add various sort options (ie,
ARTISTSORT: does WinAmp support that? As what tag?), and because its a
heck of a lot easier using mp3tag to change every
JJZolx;290171 Wrote:
Sounds like the following is needed (my apolgies to Mr Sinatra if he
already stated this, but I gave up on trying to sift through all those
very long replies quite a while ago):
First, there's something we'd have to come to agreement on: There just
isn't a whole lot
MrSinatra;290160 Wrote:
that was to jim, and i agree there is no TPE2 to ALBUMARTIST mapping,
but my question is where are you saying the show band if ALBUMARTIST
isn't defined option is?
Exactly where I said it was... in Schema::Album::artist, and it is only
used for -display-.
It is the
MrSinatra;290193 Wrote:
i know its a lot of posts, but i already explained this.
i already have TPE2 tags. they already are the way i need them to be
if SC7 would only use them for sorting, and not just labeling.
i do not see why i must get yet another program and retag all my stuff
JimC;290195 Wrote:
So here's the issue, as I see it (personally speaking--I'm still waiting
for enough info to make a professional call on it):
Band was never supposed to be used for AlbumArtist, but it's been
co-opted to this task by several applications. Given that, some people
would
snarlydwarf;290199 Wrote:
Then you can have Buddy Holly appear in the B's instead of the H's...
And JS Bach in the J's. Sinatra? He's over in F's.
you assume two things:
1. that i don't want to use first names
and
2. that my tags aren't ALREADY Sinatra, Frank
since you don't know if
that was to jim, and i agree there is no TPE2 to ALBUMARTIST mapping,
but my question is where are you saying the show band if ALBUMARTIST
isn't defined option is?
snarlydwarf;290200 Wrote:
Exactly where I said it was... in Schema::Album::artist, and it is only
used for -display-.
right
i promise you, i do not take offense to your comments, but i just want
to be sure you actually understand what i am proposing before you shoot
it down b/c i am not sure you do yet, which is not a knock in any way,
i'm just saying i'm not sure.
and i never claimed it should.
i have
MrSinatra;290210 Wrote:
since you don't know if either is true, you can't claim its a problem.
And you assume I care how you organize your music. If you want
Sinatra under the Q's that is your business. I think it would be truly
stupid and painful to navigate that way, but it is your
JimC;290203 Wrote:
First, respecting the Txxx user defined tag IS NOT the same as mapping
an existing tag to a different use. That tag is mapped directly to its
intended use; it is not redefined to mean something else internally.
The TPE2 tag is also used exactly as it was intended--to
- We clarify the option to mean: Use id3v2 tags' TPE2 (Band) to be
equivalent to AlbumArtist in Mp3 files. Move it out from under the
'Compilation' heading. I would suggest creating maybe an 'Mp3 Tags'
heading, or possibly a 'Scanning Options' heading or page. So the
option would no
JimC;290213 Wrote:
Here's the real problem: you think of this a simply an option, because
on the surface that's the simple way to see it. However, the
reality--as everyone has tried to point out--is that this isn't a
simple solution and handling it in the way you suggest may have all
kinds
and that means SC7 has no reasonable method to sort all albums for
users who do not have user defined tags in their files.
I think you meant sort all artists. SC does - it sorts by artist if there is
not album artist.
If you want an option to sort by Band, then there should also be options to
snarlydwarf;290214 Wrote:
And you assume I care how you organize your music. If you want Sinatra
under the Q's that is your business. I think it would be truly stupid
and painful to navigate that way, but it is your library.
always good for a laugh, huh? maybe i assume since you said You
Philip Meyer;290225 Wrote:
- Permit sorting of albums by BAND in the manner suggested
(somewhere) previously. By using a hierarchy of ALBUMARTIST, BAND,
VA, ARTIST(s) when determining the album's primary contributor.
Disagree. If id3 TPE2 tag is mapped to SqueezeCenter Album
Philip Meyer;290229 Wrote:
and that means SC7 has no reasonable method to sort all albums for
users who do not have user defined tags in their files.
I think you meant sort all artists. SC does - it sorts by artist if
there is not album artist.
no, i specifically said what i said on
Philip Meyer;290242 Wrote:
My own view is that if the ALBUMARTIST tag exists for every track on
an
album, it would be nice *not* to classify it as Various Artists
whether or not COMPILATION is set. Currently, if you have
COMPILATION=1
and Group Compilation Albums together, it's almost as
My own view is that if the ALBUMARTIST tag exists for every track on an
album, it would be nice *not* to classify it as Various Artists
whether or not COMPILATION is set. Currently, if you have COMPILATION=1
and Group Compilation Albums together, it's almost as though
ALBUMARTIST is ignored: the
The message I wrote earlier about some sort of tag mapping
customization seems to have been overwhelmed by
tpe2/band/albumartist/txxx messages.
Is the idea totally broken? or definitely too complicated ? or not user
friendly enough? and doesn't worth talking about it?
To answer MrSinatra, I can
MrSinatra;290239 Wrote:
so first of all, its not a problem by definition to not have a
non-standard tag. nor is it necessarily missing. i did not find TCMP
on http://id3.org/id3v2.3.0
i also found no reference to the word compilation on that page.
Yes, it is one of your defacto
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