[discuss] Authoxy and NTLM - Unable to create shared memory

[Witold Oleksiak]

Hi,

Heath, thank you for fixing my subscription problem.
I am forwarding my email which was rejected earlier from list, for reference.

Unfortunately the tips you gave regarding modifying OS X shared memory 
parameters (https://ssl.drqueue.org/project/wiki/OSXSharedMemory) did not help 
at all.
Authoxy is still crashing with "No authentication challenge" and "Unable to 
create shared memory" in less than an hour of web browsing. And I still can't 
find the culprit.

Any chance I can get any extra info which would help in debugging...?
And do you actually still work on Authoxy, as there wasn't any update since Feb 
2010...?

Regards,
Witold


> I am trying to use Authoxy in NTLM environment (MS ISA server and TMG Server).
> Authoxyd is started by startAuthoxy and I am logging in using my active 
> directory account.
> Unfortunately after some time (few minutes to few hours at best) there are 
> failures in page loading - some images are missing, then some css formatting, 
> finally nothing loads at all (web browsers just stop loading with blank page).
> 
> Shortly before first issues show up, system.log starts filling with multiple 
> errors:
> /Library/PreferencePanes/Authoxy.prefPane/Contents/MacOS/authoxyd[21628] 
> : Fatal Error. Unable to create shared memory: No space left on device
> 
> Authoxyd restart changes nothing.
> Ipcs command shows multiple shared memory entries and only after manually 
> deleting them or rebooting the computer and relaunching authoxy it works 
> again for some time.
> 
> My observation is, authoxy does not handle well situations when I try to open 
> URLs which don't need authentication and which are returned by ISA/TMG server 
> like it was unauthenticated proxy (ie. hosts in local intranet). Such URLs 
> don't open and system.log gets new entry:
> /Library/PreferencePanes/Authoxy.prefPane/Contents/MacOS/authoxyd[541] 
> : No authentication challenge in NTLM authentication Step 4. Giving up.
> 
> I added such hosts (all that I know) to proxy exception list, yet problem 
> still comes back. Enabling verbose logging does not help, it doesn't log URLs 
> which are triggering the problem.
> 
> Is there any chance to fix authoxy behavior in aforementioned situations?
> 

[discuss] Authoxy recognising Kerberos ID's

[Turner, Richard (REA - AUS)]

Hi,

I was wondering if there is a version of Authoxy that can recognise Kerberos 
ticket ID's? Our office network authenticates almost everything using Active 
Directory and I am required to change my password regularly.

If Authoxy was able to recognise the Kerberos ticket that is created when I log 
in using AD credentials, then when I need to change my password I only have to 
update the System Preferences which will send the new password to AD/Kerberos 
and that will update my Authoxy password at the same time.

Thanks,
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Re: [discuss] Authoxy Issues in a Mac environment

[Powell, Aaron]

We're not using Managed Preferences and the users have access to all the 
preference panes that don't have a padlock. So they have access to the 
preferences for their user account.

Hopefully that helps.

Sent from my phone


-Original message-
From: Diane Hayes 
To: "Powell, Aaron" , "discuss@hrsoftworks.net" 

Sent: 2012 Jan, Mon, 30 18:50:33 EST
Subject: Re: [discuss] Authoxy Issues in a Mac environment

Hi Aaron,

Thanks for replying. We have set the startAuthoxy.app to be a login item for 
each user. The issue seems to be that the startup doesn't complete at login 
time. When you go into System Preferences and look at the Authoxy settings it 
completes the startup process and then everything works as expected. I suspect 
it may be because the users who are not administrators have some managed system 
preferences we set from the server.

Are your users using managed preferences or do they have full access to the 
system preferences?

Cheers

Diane


On 31/01/2012, at 11:11 AM, Powell, Aaron wrote:

Hello,

We ended up making startAuthoxy.app a Login Item for the individual users 
because they are required to authenticate to our proxy server using their AD 
credentials.  Not sure if that helps you at all.  I’m not an expert on Startup 
Items but could you use a LoginHook to start Authoxy instead?  Those run as 
root and shouldn’t give the non-admin users an issue.

Thanks,

Aaron

From: Diane Hayes [mailto:diane.ha...@infatech.co.nz]
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 6:39 PM
To: discuss@hrsoftworks.net<mailto:discuss@hrsoftworks.net>
Subject: [discuss] Authoxy Issues in a Mac environment

Hi There,

We are trialling Authoxy at a local primary school and I am having a few issues 
getting it running properly. I was wondering if you had any ideas on what I'm 
doing wrong.

The school is running MacBooks and MacBook Pro's with 10.6.8 and Authoxy 3.6. 
We are trying to use it to get around the Proxy issues we are having with 
Google Calendar and when Authoxy runs it works great.

Some of my teachers are not running administrator accounts and when I put 
startAuthoxy into the startup items and then run it, I get an error stating 
that the user is not permitted to perform that action. When I check in the 
System Preferences Authoxy appears to be running, but isn't working as 
expected. The teachers who are administrators have no problem. Manually 
starting Authoxy after startup works fine.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. Let me know there are any questions about 
our setup.


Kind Regards

Diane Hayes
Senior Macintosh Network Administrator



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Re: [discuss] Authoxy Issues in a Mac environment

[Diane Hayes]

Hi Aaron,

Thanks for replying. We have set the startAuthoxy.app to be a login item for 
each user. The issue seems to be that the startup doesn't complete at login 
time. When you go into System Preferences and look at the Authoxy settings it 
completes the startup process and then everything works as expected. I suspect 
it may be because the users who are not administrators have some managed system 
preferences we set from the server.

Are your users using managed preferences or do they have full access to the 
system preferences?

Cheers

Diane


On 31/01/2012, at 11:11 AM, Powell, Aaron wrote:

> Hello,
>  
> We ended up making startAuthoxy.app a Login Item for the individual users 
> because they are required to authenticate to our proxy server using their AD 
> credentials.  Not sure if that helps you at all.  I’m not an expert on 
> Startup Items but could you use a LoginHook to start Authoxy instead?  Those 
> run as root and shouldn’t give the non-admin users an issue.
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Aaron
>  
> From: Diane Hayes [mailto:diane.ha...@infatech.co.nz] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 6:39 PM
> To: discuss@hrsoftworks.net
> Subject: [discuss] Authoxy Issues in a Mac environment
>  
> Hi There,
> 
> We are trialling Authoxy at a local primary school and I am having a few 
> issues getting it running properly. I was wondering if you had any ideas on 
> what I'm doing wrong.
> 
> The school is running MacBooks and MacBook Pro's with 10.6.8 and Authoxy 3.6. 
> We are trying to use it to get around the Proxy issues we are having with 
> Google Calendar and when Authoxy runs it works great.
> 
> Some of my teachers are not running administrator accounts and when I put 
> startAuthoxy into the startup items and then run it, I get an error stating 
> that the user is not permitted to perform that action. When I check in the 
> System Preferences Authoxy appears to be running, but isn't working as 
> expected. The teachers who are administrators have no problem. Manually 
> starting Authoxy after startup works fine.
> 
> Any suggestions would be appreciated. Let me know there are any questions 
> about our setup.
> 
> 
> Kind Regards
> 
> Diane Hayes
> Senior Macintosh Network Administrator
> 
> 
> 
> P O Box 35338
> CHRISTCHURCH 8640
> P - (03) 960 1258
> F - (03) 960 1268
> M - (021) 339 288
> E - diane.ha...@infatech.co.nz
> W - www.infatech.co.nz

RE: [discuss] Authoxy Issues in a Mac environment

[Powell, Aaron]

Hello,

We ended up making startAuthoxy.app a Login Item for the individual users 
because they are required to authenticate to our proxy server using their AD 
credentials.  Not sure if that helps you at all.  I'm not an expert on Startup 
Items but could you use a LoginHook to start Authoxy instead?  Those run as 
root and shouldn't give the non-admin users an issue.

Thanks,

Aaron

From: Diane Hayes [mailto:diane.ha...@infatech.co.nz]
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 6:39 PM
To: discuss@hrsoftworks.net
Subject: [discuss] Authoxy Issues in a Mac environment

Hi There,

We are trialling Authoxy at a local primary school and I am having a few issues 
getting it running properly. I was wondering if you had any ideas on what I'm 
doing wrong.

The school is running MacBooks and MacBook Pro's with 10.6.8 and Authoxy 3.6. 
We are trying to use it to get around the Proxy issues we are having with 
Google Calendar and when Authoxy runs it works great.

Some of my teachers are not running administrator accounts and when I put 
startAuthoxy into the startup items and then run it, I get an error stating 
that the user is not permitted to perform that action. When I check in the 
System Preferences Authoxy appears to be running, but isn't working as 
expected. The teachers who are administrators have no problem. Manually 
starting Authoxy after startup works fine.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. Let me know there are any questions about 
our setup.


Kind Regards

Diane Hayes
Senior Macintosh Network Administrator

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[discuss] Authoxy Issues in a Mac environment

[Diane Hayes]

Hi There,We are trialling Authoxy at a local primary school and I am having a few issues getting it running properly. I was wondering if you had any ideas on what I'm doing wrong.The school is running MacBooks and MacBook Pro's with 10.6.8 and Authoxy 3.6. We are trying to use it to get around the Proxy issues we are having with Google Calendar and when Authoxy runs it works great.Some of my teachers are not running administrator accounts and when I put startAuthoxy into the startup items and then run it, I get an error stating that the user is not permitted to perform that action. When I check in the System Preferences Authoxy appears to be running, but isn't working as expected. The teachers who are administrators have no problem. Manually starting Authoxy after startup works fine.Any suggestions would be appreciated. Let me know there are any questions about our setup.Kind RegardsDiane HayesSenior Macintosh Network AdministratorP O Box 35338CHRISTCHURCH 8640P - (03) 960 1258F - (03) 960 1268M - (021) 339 288E - diane.ha...@infatech.co.nzW - www.infatech.co.nz

Re: [discuss] Authoxy Installation

[Heath Raftery]

Hi Louis,

There's not much to go on here. Check for the presence of  
Authoxy.prefPane in either /Library/PreferencePanes or ~/Library/ 
PreferencesPanes. Maybe it got installed in the Admin's user account  
and therefore is not visible in the User's account? If so, just move  
it to /Library/PreferencePanes to be visible by all.


Note that Authoxy on its own probably wont give you the SSO you're  
after. Depending on how your network is setup, you might need to push  
the credentials from logon to Authoxy manually.


Regards,
Heath

On 20/08/2008, at 1:13 AM, Louis Plourde wrote:


Hey everyone,



I'm a Windows guy, but at my new place of work we have a lot of Macs  
for

designers and such.  We're implementing an external web filtering
service that uses an internal server for proxy and AD authenticating.



We haven't found a way for the Macs to be SSO like the Windows  
machines,
and I thought Authoxy was my answer - I'm trying to test it to see,  
but

I can't even get past the installation.  It installs, but when I go to
System Preferences there is no 'Other' line with the Authoxy icon.



I am installing it using an account with admin rights to the Mac, so  
not

sure what the issue might be, as the installer says the installation
completed successfully.



Thanks in advance for any help!





Louis Plourde







Louis Plourde

Network Administrator

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450 Front Street West

Toronto, Ontario   M5V 1B6

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[discuss] Authoxy Installation

[Louis Plourde]

Hey everyone,

 

I'm a Windows guy, but at my new place of work we have a lot of Macs for
designers and such.  We're implementing an external web filtering
service that uses an internal server for proxy and AD authenticating.  

 

We haven't found a way for the Macs to be SSO like the Windows machines,
and I thought Authoxy was my answer - I'm trying to test it to see, but
I can't even get past the installation.  It installs, but when I go to
System Preferences there is no 'Other' line with the Authoxy icon.

 

I am installing it using an account with admin rights to the Mac, so not
sure what the issue might be, as the installer says the installation
completed successfully.

 

Thanks in advance for any help!

 

 

Louis Plourde

 

 

 

Louis Plourde

Network Administrator

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Spin Master Ltd.

450 Front Street West

Toronto, Ontario   M5V 1B6

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www.spinmaster.com  

 

Re: [discuss] Authoxy not working with ISA 2006 proxy

[Heath Raftery]

Hi Matt,

It's tough to get much out of a failed connection to help with the  
process. The way you're going about it sounds fine, and the log does  
seem to indicate a straight forward authentication failure.


What you're seeing in the log is this:

Step one is client to server, plain request.
Step two is server to client, 407 authentication required.
Step three is client to server, this time with a "Type 1" NTLM message  
containing the host, domain and a set of flags.
Step four is server to client, with a "Type 2" NTLM message containing  
a challenge.
Step five is client to server, with a "Type 3" NTLM message with a  
response.


The next packet is supposed to be the page requested, but in this case  
the server is returning the original 407 authentication required page.  
It didn't like something about the authentication provided, and I'm  
afraid it's near impossible to tell what the problem was from this end.


Does anyone else have any experience with this style of proxy, and  
have any suggestions of things for Matt to try?


Heath

On 09/07/2008, at 6:56 AM, Matt Rosenberg wrote:


Hi Heath and everyone,

I am unable to make Authoxy 3.4 work with my company’s ISA 2006  
proxy. I
have absolutely no access to the proxy configuration, so any info I  
can
provide is all discovered via client testing. Authoxy worked fine  
with our
old proxy, which was an earlier ISA version, without the NTLM  
option. I

simply put in domain\username and password and it worked.

In the new one, I have tried both the same configuration as before  
and with

the NTLM option. I have tried several variations for the “domain” and
“username” settings. For username, I’ve done domain\username and
[EMAIL PROTECTED] For domain, I’ve done DOMAIN, domain.org, and  
maybe a
couple of others. I’ve put the output from a Text Authoxy session  
below.
Anyone know how to get this working? Does it look like the mechanics  
are
correct and I just don’t have the right combination of domain and  
username

settings?

Thanks,
Matt

--

Test connection for authoxyd has begun.






GET http://www.hrsoftworks.net/TestConnection.html HTTP/1.1
Host: www.hrsoftworks.net
Pragma: no-cache
Accept: */*
Proxy-Connection: Keep-Alive



<<<

HTTP/1.1 407 Proxy Authentication Required ( The ISA Server requires
authorization to fulfill the request. Access to the Web Proxy filter  
is

denied.  )
Via: 1.1 BGISA03
Proxy-Authenticate: Negotiate
Proxy-Authenticate: Kerberos
Proxy-Authenticate: NTLM
Connection: Keep-Alive
Proxy-Connection: Keep-Alive
Pragma: no-cache
Cache-Control: no-cache
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Length: 4123


Error Message


[A bunch of HTML removed here]




 
 
   
   Technical Information (for support
personnel)
 
   Error Code: 407 Proxy Authentication  
Required.
The ISA Server requires authorization to fulfill the request. Access  
to the

Web Proxy filter is denied. (12209)
IP Address: 192.168.103.11
Date: 7/8/2008 8:37:01 PM [GMT]
Server: bgisa03.caldera.MGMMIRAGE.ORG
Source: proxy

 
   
 
 











GET http://www.hrsoftworks.net/TestConnection.html HTTP/1.1
Proxy-Authorization: NTLM
TlRMTVNTUAABBjIAAA0ADQApCQAJACBTVEFUSU9OMjJNR01NSVJBR0UuT1JH
Host: www.hrsoftworks.net
Pragma: no-cache
Accept: */*
Proxy-Connection: Keep-Alive



<<<

HTTP/1.1 407 Proxy Authentication Required ( Access is denied.  )
Via: 1.1 BGISA03
Proxy-Authenticate: NTLM
TlRMTVNTUAACBwAHADgGAoECJXexYTUZVucAALIAsgA/ 
BQLODg9D

QUxERVJBAgAOAEMAQQBMAEQARQBSAEEAAQAOAEIARwBJAFMAQQAwADMABAAqAGMAYQBsAGQAZQBy
AGEALgBNAEcATQBNAEkAUgBBAEcARQAuAE8AUgBHAAMAOgBiAGcAaQBzAGEAMAAzAC4AYwBhAGwA
ZABlAHIAYQAuAE0ARwBNAE0ASQBSAEEARwBFAC4ATwBSAEcABQAaAE0ARwBNAE0ASQBSAEEARwBF
AC4ATwBSAEcAAA==
Connection: Keep-Alive
Proxy-Connection: Keep-Alive
Pragma: no-cache
Cache-Control: no-cache
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Length: 0







GET http://www.hrsoftworks.net/TestConnection.html HTTP/1.1
Proxy-Authorization: NTLM
TlRMTVNTUAADGAAYAHIYABgAig0ADQBAGAAYAE0NAA0AZQCi
BjIAAE1HTU1JUkFHRS5PUkdNUk9TRU5CRVJHQE1HTU1JUkFHRS5PUkdTVEFUSU9OMjIAUEFU
dC5s6EVvF6R0LmzoRW8XpHQubOhFbxekdC5s6EVvF6R0LmzoRW8XpHQubOhFbxek
Host: www.hrsoftworks.net
Pragma: no-cache
Accept: */*
Proxy-Connection: Keep-Alive



<<<

HTTP/1.1 407 Proxy Authentication Required ( The ISA Server requires
authorization to fulfill the request. Access to the Web Proxy filter  
is

denied.  )
Via: 1.1 BGISA03
Proxy-Authenticate: Negotiate
Proxy-Authenticate: Kerberos
Proxy-Authenticate: NTLM
Connection: close
Proxy-Connection: close
Pragma: no-cache
Cache-Control: no-cache
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Length: 4123


Error Message


[A bunch of HTML removed here]




 
 
   
   Technical Information (for support
personnel)
 
   Error Code: 407 Proxy Authentication  
Required.
The ISA Server requires authorization to fulfill the request. Access  
to the

Web Proxy filter is denied. (12209)
IP Address: 192.168.103.1

[discuss] Authoxy not working with ISA 2006 proxy

[Matt Rosenberg]

Hi Heath and everyone,

I am unable to make Authoxy 3.4 work with my company¹s ISA 2006 proxy. I
have absolutely no access to the proxy configuration, so any info I can
provide is all discovered via client testing. Authoxy worked fine with our
old proxy, which was an earlier ISA version, without the NTLM option. I
simply put in domain\username and password and it worked.

In the new one, I have tried both the same configuration as before and with
the NTLM option. I have tried several variations for the ³domain² and
³username² settings. For username, I¹ve done domain\username and
[EMAIL PROTECTED] For domain, I¹ve done DOMAIN, domain.org, and maybe a
couple of others. I¹ve put the output from a Text Authoxy session below.
Anyone know how to get this working? Does it look like the mechanics are
correct and I just don¹t have the right combination of domain and username
settings?

Thanks,
Matt

--

Test connection for authoxyd has begun.


>>>

GET http://www.hrsoftworks.net/TestConnection.html HTTP/1.1
Host: www.hrsoftworks.net
Pragma: no-cache
Accept: */*
Proxy-Connection: Keep-Alive



<<<

HTTP/1.1 407 Proxy Authentication Required ( The ISA Server requires
authorization to fulfill the request. Access to the Web Proxy filter is
denied.  )
Via: 1.1 BGISA03
Proxy-Authenticate: Negotiate
Proxy-Authenticate: Kerberos
Proxy-Authenticate: NTLM
Connection: Keep-Alive
Proxy-Connection: Keep-Alive
Pragma: no-cache
Cache-Control: no-cache
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Length: 4123


Error Message


[A bunch of HTML removed here]




  
  

Technical Information (for support
personnel) 
  
Error Code: 407 Proxy Authentication Required.
The ISA Server requires authorization to fulfill the request. Access to the
Web Proxy filter is denied. (12209)
IP Address: 192.168.103.11
Date: 7/8/2008 8:37:01 PM [GMT]
Server: bgisa03.caldera.MGMMIRAGE.ORG
Source: proxy

  

  
  







>>>

GET http://www.hrsoftworks.net/TestConnection.html HTTP/1.1
Proxy-Authorization: NTLM
TlRMTVNTUAABBjIAAA0ADQApCQAJACBTVEFUSU9OMjJNR01NSVJBR0UuT1JH
Host: www.hrsoftworks.net
Pragma: no-cache
Accept: */*
Proxy-Connection: Keep-Alive



<<<

HTTP/1.1 407 Proxy Authentication Required ( Access is denied.  )
Via: 1.1 BGISA03
Proxy-Authenticate: NTLM
TlRMTVNTUAACBwAHADgGAoECJXexYTUZVucAALIAsgA/BQLODg9D
QUxERVJBAgAOAEMAQQBMAEQARQBSAEEAAQAOAEIARwBJAFMAQQAwADMABAAqAGMAYQBsAGQAZQBy
AGEALgBNAEcATQBNAEkAUgBBAEcARQAuAE8AUgBHAAMAOgBiAGcAaQBzAGEAMAAzAC4AYwBhAGwA
ZABlAHIAYQAuAE0ARwBNAE0ASQBSAEEARwBFAC4ATwBSAEcABQAaAE0ARwBNAE0ASQBSAEEARwBF
AC4ATwBSAEcAAA==
Connection: Keep-Alive
Proxy-Connection: Keep-Alive
Pragma: no-cache
Cache-Control: no-cache
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Length: 0  



>>>

GET http://www.hrsoftworks.net/TestConnection.html HTTP/1.1
Proxy-Authorization: NTLM
TlRMTVNTUAADGAAYAHIYABgAig0ADQBAGAAYAE0NAA0AZQCi
BjIAAE1HTU1JUkFHRS5PUkdNUk9TRU5CRVJHQE1HTU1JUkFHRS5PUkdTVEFUSU9OMjIAUEFU
dC5s6EVvF6R0LmzoRW8XpHQubOhFbxekdC5s6EVvF6R0LmzoRW8XpHQubOhFbxek
Host: www.hrsoftworks.net
Pragma: no-cache
Accept: */*
Proxy-Connection: Keep-Alive



<<<

HTTP/1.1 407 Proxy Authentication Required ( The ISA Server requires
authorization to fulfill the request. Access to the Web Proxy filter is
denied.  )
Via: 1.1 BGISA03
Proxy-Authenticate: Negotiate
Proxy-Authenticate: Kerberos
Proxy-Authenticate: NTLM
Connection: close
Proxy-Connection: close
Pragma: no-cache
Cache-Control: no-cache
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Length: 4123


Error Message


[A bunch of HTML removed here]




  
  

Technical Information (for support
personnel) 
  
Error Code: 407 Proxy Authentication Required.
The ISA Server requires authorization to fulfill the request. Access to the
Web Proxy filter is denied. (12209)
IP Address: 192.168.103.11
Date: 7/8/2008 8:37:01 PM [GMT]
Server: bgisa03.caldera.MGMMIRAGE.ORG
Source: proxy

  

  
  

Re: [discuss] Authoxy on Leopard

[Heath Raftery]

It may be closer than you think! I have a freshly pressed beta here  
that I'm fairly happy with. My testing abilities are limited however,  
so I'd like it to run it through a quick beta session before I  
unleash it upon the world. Daryl, I'm going to be bold and send you  
the beta as an attachment directly. If you could backup your current  
version and stick this one in place (in Library/PreferencePanes) and  
run it through its paces, the Authoxy-using community would be in debt.


Anyone else that would like to take the new version for a spin is  
welcome to send me an email directly for a copy of the beta.


Regards,
Heath

On 29/12/2007, at 12:59 AM, Daryl Spitzer wrote:


Heath,

Do you have an ETA on this update to Authoxy 3.2.5?  (It's a little
annoying to have to keep re-entering my password every time I start
it.)

It's working well for me on Leopard (10.5.1), except for the inability
to save preferences.

--
Daryl


On Nov 5, 2007 1:42 PM, Heath Raftery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Folks,

I have received a few reports that Authoxy is unable to save its
preferences on Mac OS X 10.5, Leopard. Please be aware that the
current version of Authoxy may not be compatible with Leopard. I am
investigating the issue and will hopefully have a fix out soon.

By the way, you are receiving this email because you subscribed to
this mailing list to receive support for Authoxy, the proxy
authentication tool for Mac OS X, from HRSoftWorks. If you would like
to unsubscribe, follow the instructions in your subscribe email, or
just send an email directly to me (address in my signature).

Regards,
Heath


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Re: [discuss] Authoxy on Leopard

[Daryl Spitzer]

Heath,

Do you have an ETA on this update to Authoxy 3.2.5?  (It's a little
annoying to have to keep re-entering my password every time I start
it.)

It's working well for me on Leopard (10.5.1), except for the inability
to save preferences.

--
Daryl


On Nov 5, 2007 1:42 PM, Heath Raftery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I have received a few reports that Authoxy is unable to save its
> preferences on Mac OS X 10.5, Leopard. Please be aware that the
> current version of Authoxy may not be compatible with Leopard. I am
> investigating the issue and will hopefully have a fix out soon.
>
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Re: [discuss] Authoxy pref problems with 10.5.1?

[Heath Raftery]

Hi Matt,

Indeed there is a known problem with Leopard, specifically to do with  
the saving of preferences. There will be a fix out soon.


As a reminder, the archive is provided by the great guys at the Mail  
Archive:


http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@hrsoftworks.net/

This issue was mentioned here:

http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@hrsoftworks.net/msg00187.html

Heath

On 21/11/2007, at 9:30 AM, Matt Rosenberg wrote:


Good afternoon!

I’m afraid I didn’t see any reference to a list archive, or I’d have
searched there first. Is anyone else seeing problems with Authoxy  
under
10.5.1? I’m not sure what exactly is going wrong, but it started  
after the
update. The symptoms: upon login, StartAuthoxy launches authoxyd  
using saved
credentials. However, the proxy functions don’t work. If Safari  
attempts to

load a page, I get an authentication request from 127.0.01.

If I open the prefpane, stop Authoxy, re-enter the correct  
password, and
start it again, everything works. I haven’t done exhaustive  
testing, but it
sure seems like the prefpane isn’t writing updated information back  
to its

own preference file.

Known issue?

Thanks,
Matt



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[discuss] Authoxy pref problems with 10.5.1?

[Matt Rosenberg]

Good afternoon!

I¹m afraid I didn¹t see any reference to a list archive, or I¹d have
searched there first. Is anyone else seeing problems with Authoxy under
10.5.1? I¹m not sure what exactly is going wrong, but it started after the
update. The symptoms: upon login, StartAuthoxy launches authoxyd using saved
credentials. However, the proxy functions don¹t work. If Safari attempts to
load a page, I get an authentication request from 127.0.01.

If I open the prefpane, stop Authoxy, re-enter the correct password, and
start it again, everything works. I haven¹t done exhaustive testing, but it
sure seems like the prefpane isn¹t writing updated information back to its
own preference file.

Known issue?

Thanks,
Matt

[discuss] Authoxy on Leopard

[Heath Raftery]

Folks,

I have received a few reports that Authoxy is unable to save its  
preferences on Mac OS X 10.5, Leopard. Please be aware that the  
current version of Authoxy may not be compatible with Leopard. I am  
investigating the issue and will hopefully have a fix out soon.


By the way, you are receiving this email because you subscribed to  
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authentication tool for Mac OS X, from HRSoftWorks. If you would like  
to unsubscribe, follow the instructions in your subscribe email, or  
just send an email directly to me (address in my signature).


Regards,
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Re: [discuss] Authoxy on Windows/Unix/Linux/anything

[Heath Raftery]

Pat,

Go for your life, I think that should work fine. Just enable the  
option in Authoxy to allow connections from other computers and  
proceed as normal. Use the IP of the Mac as the proxy address for the  
other computers.


Heath

On 25/07/2007, at 7:29 AM, Pat Sproule wrote:

Heath, re allowing other machines on the network to connect to the  
internet via the machine running Authoxy - this would be very  
useful indeed in our situation. I run an isolated network for our  
post production machines - a mixture of OSX and XP on a W2K domain.  
I have one machine - an old G4 that has 2 NIC's and runs between  
the two networks - our uni LAN and the isolated LAN. This feature  
would allow me to update machines on the isolated LAN via the G4  
running as an internet gateway without having to use internet  
connection sharing..


Cheers - Pat - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [discuss] Authoxy fields

[Heath Raftery]

Script the Authoxy control panel? No need!

The Authoxy control panel (or system preference pane) only serves as  
a convenient way to start, stop and monitor the authoxy daemon, which  
does all the work. You can safely ignore the preference pane and  
start the daemon yourself.


The easiest way to figure out how to start the daemon is to first use  
the preference pane to start Authoxy with the settings you want.  
Then, in the Terminal, run 'ps -auxww | grep a[u]thoxy'. The last  
thing on the output of that command should be the invocation line for  
authoxyd (the Authoxy daemon). It will probably start with something  
like "/Users/liteyear/Library/PreferencePanes/Authoxy.prefPane/ 
Contents/MacOS/authoxyd YzMwMDU".


Now all you need to do is get your script to execute that command,  
and Authoxy should start up as normal. Note that to customise the  
username and password, you'll have to concatenate the details like  
so, username:password, and perform a Base64 encode on the result. The  
result replaces the first option after authoxyd.


Hope that helps,
Heath

On 04/07/2007, at 3:06 AM, Jongewaard Adam wrote:


Is there any way to script the username and password from say a logon
script to be put into the Authoxy control panel so that for each user
that logs onto a machine it updates the username and password
accordingly?



Thanks,

Adam Jongewaard



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[discuss] Authoxy fields

[Jongewaard Adam]

Is there any way to script the username and password from say a logon
script to be put into the Authoxy control panel so that for each user
that logs onto a machine it updates the username and password
accordingly?

 

Thanks,

Adam Jongewaard

Re: [discuss] Authoxy won't start

[Heath Raftery]

Ah ha! I think I've nailed this one. It turns out the spaces  
suggestion was a bit of a red herring. Instead, I suspect this is a  
version clash between Authoxy and startAuthoxy.


First, note that startAuthoxy searches several locations for an  
Authoxy install, so it is easy to leave a copy lying around that  
you're not aware of. In particular, check /Library/PreferencePanes as  
well as ~/Library/PreferencePanes (in other words, the  
PreferencePanes folder in the root level or computer wide Library  
folder, as well as the one in your Home folder). Wouldn't hurt to do  
a file search for "Authoxy" too.


Also ensure that the versions of startAuthoxy and the Authoxy  
prefpane are compatible. The easiest way to ensure this is to get the  
latest version of both (currently v3.2.5 for both - insider secret:  
version 3.3 is waiting in the wings!) if possible. When installing,  
manually remove all the old versions, and make sure startAuthoxy is  
selected for install in the "Customize" step of the installer. Note  
that even startAuthoxy v3.2 will not start v3.2.5 of Authoxy.


Let me know how you go.
Heath

On 18/06/2007, at 7:58 PM, Carl Williams wrote:

After doing an archive and install, I am having issues with  
Authoxy. Running startAuthoxy.app often results in a "Daemon did  
not start". Authoxy error logs indicate "Fatal Error: authoxyd  
needs either 7 or 9 command line parameters. Check there are no  
spaces in your settings." (There aren't!)


I previously (before archive and install) had Location X configured  
to switch Authoxy settings automatically, but now Location X will  
not trigger Authoxy to start no matter how many times I reconfigure  
the settings. It'll change settings, but not start.


I have tried deleting all the Authoxy files and reinstalling to no  
avail.



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[discuss] Authoxy won't start

[Carl Williams]

After doing an archive and install, I am having issues with Authoxy.  
Running startAuthoxy.app often results in a "Daemon did not start".  
Authoxy error logs indicate "Fatal Error: authoxyd needs either 7 or  
9 command line parameters. Check there are no spaces in your  
settings." (There aren't!)


I previously (before archive and install) had Location X configured  
to switch Authoxy settings automatically, but now Location X will not  
trigger Authoxy to start no matter how many times I reconfigure the  
settings. It'll change settings, but not start.


I have tried deleting all the Authoxy files and reinstalling to no  
avail.

[discuss] Authoxy 3.2 worked but 3.2.5 doesn't

[Ian]

On my iBook, I had version 3.2 of Authoxy working fine, using NTLM  
authentication. When I installed 3.2.5, it stopped working. So I  
reinstalled 3.2 and all was fine again.


Now I've got a Macbook, 3.2 won't work on it. So I've been forced to  
install 3.2.5, which I can't get to connect! When I look at the log,  
it says it's too large to parse properly.


Does anyone have any suggestions? Sorry if this has come up before, I  
can't find any archives to look through.


Cheers

Ian

Re: [discuss] Authoxy + Network Users

[Heath Raftery]

On 04/08/2006, at 6:53 PM, David Moyle wrote:
I tried making a script killall authoxyd which worked great, didn't  
have to
workout the PID using grep etc (which I never got working) but I  
found that
when another user logs in and Authoxy tries to start it wouldn't,  
doing it

manually it would just refuse to work.


Okay, that's unexpected - we need to find out why this is happening.  
Something should appear in the system log (/var/log/system.log) which  
will give you a clue as why Authoxy is not starting.


I presume the command killall authoxyd was still 'running' and  
killed any
process with that name. Maybe I need to end the script in some way?  
(I know

very little about UNIX coding)


Nah, that doesn't sound right at all. killall runs once and returns  
immediately. All it does is send a signal to the process with the  
matching name, and return. Use the "ps -auxww" command to confirm  
that killall worked, that is, that authoxyd doesn't appear in the  
running processes list afterwards.


You can test all this by simply running the commands in a Terminal  
window (not in a script). For example, if you start Authoxy using  
startAuthoxy or System Preferences, then run killall authoxyd in  
Terminal, and then start Authoxy again, does everything work? It  
should, and doing that should be no different that doing it in a script.


Also, Heath did you get my suggestion about possibly including a  
exit on

logout option for Authoxy?


Yep. As I said, there are options to do with registering with the  
WindowServer so the daemon can get the cue from the logout event.  
This raises a few issues though, so it'd be great if we didn't have  
to go down this path. I'd prefer to find out why your method (which  
sounds completely logical) isn't working.


Also I've never looked at the system log, but I might do, and the  
authoxy

log didn't show any entries.


That's strange, but do check the log itself and let me know.

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Re: [discuss] Authoxy + Network Users

[Heath Raftery]

David and co,

On 24/07/2006, at 9:22 PM, David Moyle wrote:
Was trying to get around this by making a script for logout that  
'killall
authoxyd' which works, but for some reason kills the process  
authoxyd from
running until I restart the computer. Any ideas to get around this  
problem,
by making a proper script (Take note, my script making skill is non- 
existent

and it could be my dodgy script) or some other method.


I've been looking at this a bit. There are ways I could tie the  
daemon to the WindowServer so it gets killed on logout, but at this  
point I'm not convinced that is necessary. I'll let you in on a  
secret - the System Preferences "Stop Authoxy" button actually just  
sends a killall! If you can get your script working (and there should  
be no reason why you can't) I think that's the solution that would  
best suit.


The only tricky thing Authoxy does when killing the daemon is to send  
a CONT message first to make sure the daemons are awake. So the  
commands sent look like this:


killall -CONT authoxyd
killall authoxyd

I can take a look at your script if you like, to see if anything  
stands out. There should be no problem starting the daemon again.  
What actually happens when you try to start Authoxy the next time? Do  
any errors appear in the system log?


Heath
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[discuss] Authoxy + Network Users

[David Moyle]

Hey all

 

Problem but I’ve got it fairly specific.

 

Clients 10.4 and Server 10.4

Latest Authoxy

 

Managed clients, each user goes through an upstream proxy,
problem in Tiger with Dashboard and RSS Feeds.

Using Authoxy to all, users log in and startAuthoxy runs and
the user enters their username and password for the proxy.

 

This works fine but when a user logouts the processes of
authoxyd continue and when the next user logins they seemingly get prompted for
credentials but the previous running process from the previous user override
the and user logs into the previous students internet.

 

Was trying to get around this by making a script for logout
that ‘killall authoxyd’ which works, but for some reason kills the
process authoxyd from running until I restart the computer. Any ideas to get
around this problem, by making a proper script (Take note, my script making
skill is non-existent and it could be my dodgy script) or some other method.

 

Any help appreciated.

 

David Moyle

IT Maintence/Tech

Kearnan College

Manjimup WA 6258

FW: [discuss] Authoxy startup

[Moyle, Michael]

Title: FW: [discuss] Authoxy startup






Why stick with the "Startup Items" path? How about scripting the appkication, instead?

(Disclaimer: I'm no programmer/scripter, so keep the salt-shaker handy ...)

Have you looked into AppleScript or Quicksilver? It seems like it should be possible to set Safari (or whatever browser you use) to start, open Authoxy and relaunch itself. "Pause" would be better, but relaunch might be as good as you can get.

...Just a thought.

Michael Moyle
Graphic Designer
City of Lowell
Division of Planning & Development
JFK Civic Center
50 Arcand Drive
Lowell, MA, 01852

Phone: 978-446-7245
Fax:   978-446-7014
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-Original Message-
From: Carl Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wed 6/14/2006 1:24 AM
To: discuss@hrsoftworks.net
Subject: Re: [discuss] Authoxy startup

Thanks, Bruce, but I need a good way to add that startup item as a 
Login for each user - there may be up to 1200! I really don't want to 
have to go to Accounts/Login items for 1200 individual users to add 
startAuthoxy.
I was thinking along the lines of adding a StartupItems folder to 
System/Library/User Templates/English.lproj/Library and putting an 
alias of startAuthoxy in there, but that doesn't work.

Maybe I can add a Login script for whenever a new user is created, 
but don't know how this might be done either.

Carl.


On 14/06/2006, at 2:15 PM, Bruce Stephens wrote:

> The only sensible(?) way would be to add the startAuthoxy 
> preferencepane to the Login Items to each users and they can then 
> learn to start it manually.
>
> For us, we taught the girls to use
> SystemPreferences->Network and Authoxy
> and they soon remembered!!!
>
>
>
> Also, although the PowerPC users are still using Authoxy 3.1.x,
> the Intel based Macs no longer need to use authoxy.
> Just set the proxy connections directly and away it goes.
> Everything works through the normal Apple Proxies
> as specified.
>
> At the Safari login prompt, type workgroup/username and password
> and away it goes.
>
> Alas printers are not all there yet, still need to use smb
> mounts with workgroup/username/password/server/printerName paths
> there.
> Also having trouble with ancient PCL printers...
> any suggestions anyone!!
>
> Cheers,
> Bruce
> Melbourne.
>
>
>
> Carl Williams wrote:
>> Is there a way I can add startAuthoxy as a default startup item 
>> for any new users that may be created? In a school environment, I 
>> have up to 1200 kids with individual logins. i would like Authoxy 
>> to start up whenever a new user logs in.
>> Carl Williams
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>> East Doncaster Secondary College
>> 20 George St
>> East Doncaster VIC 3109
>> Ph. 03 9842 2244
>> Fax 03 9841 8010
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Re: [discuss] Authoxy startup

[Brian Kilpatrick]

One would think you could also accomplish it system wide with launchd. 
There is a program called 'Lingon' (or something) that can assist you in 
making launchd items


Brian

Bruce Stephens wrote:

The easiest way would be to distribute an alias to their desktops
that simply points to /Applications/startauthoxy. If you email the
alias with a nice large icon, then the students will use it!!!


An alias of /Applications/startauthoxy in /Library/startupItems should
work as well.




The only other way would be with the use of a PAC file
that starts /Applications/startauthoxy
or when installing OSX Tiger on EACH system,install a small patch in
the /etc/rc file that does the same.

The PAC file is probably the easiest but you still have
to modify everyones...
SystemPreferences->Network->Proxies->Manually/Use PAC File
settings.

Not sure if you can start specific Applications using a PAC file


Cheers,
Bruce.




Carl Williams wrote:
Thanks, Bruce, but I need a good way to add that startup item as a 
Login for each user - there may be up to 1200! I really don't want to 
have to go to Accounts/Login items for 1200 individual users to add 
startAuthoxy.
I was thinking along the lines of adding a StartupItems folder to 
System/Library/User Templates/English.lproj/Library and putting an 
alias of startAuthoxy in there, but that doesn't work.


Maybe I can add a Login script for whenever a new user is created, 
but don't know how this might be done either.


Carl.


On 14/06/2006, at 2:15 PM, Bruce Stephens wrote:

The only sensible(?) way would be to add the startAuthoxy 
preferencepane to the Login Items to each users and they can then 
learn to start it manually.


For us, we taught the girls to use
SystemPreferences->Network and Authoxy
and they soon remembered!!!



Also, although the PowerPC users are still using Authoxy 3.1.x,
the Intel based Macs no longer need to use authoxy.
Just set the proxy connections directly and away it goes.
Everything works through the normal Apple Proxies
as specified.

At the Safari login prompt, type workgroup/username and password
and away it goes.

Alas printers are not all there yet, still need to use smb
mounts with workgroup/username/password/server/printerName paths
there.
Also having trouble with ancient PCL printers...
any suggestions anyone!!

Cheers,
Bruce
Melbourne.



Carl Williams wrote:
Is there a way I can add startAuthoxy as a default startup item for 
any new users that may be created? In a school environment, I have 
up to 1200 kids with individual logins. i would like Authoxy to 
start up whenever a new user logs in.

Carl Williams
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East Doncaster Secondary College
20 George St
East Doncaster VIC 3109
Ph. 03 9842 2244
Fax 03 9841 8010
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Re: [discuss] Authoxy startup

[Bruce Stephens]

The easiest way would be to distribute an alias to their desktops
that simply points to /Applications/startauthoxy. If you email the
alias with a nice large icon, then the students will use it!!!


An alias of /Applications/startauthoxy in /Library/startupItems should
work as well.




The only other way would be with the use of a PAC file
that starts /Applications/startauthoxy
or when installing OSX Tiger on EACH system,install a small patch in
the /etc/rc file that does the same.

The PAC file is probably the easiest but you still have
to modify everyones...
SystemPreferences->Network->Proxies->Manually/Use PAC File
settings.

Not sure if you can start specific Applications using a PAC file


Cheers,
Bruce.




Carl Williams wrote:
Thanks, Bruce, but I need a good way to add that startup item as a Login 
for each user - there may be up to 1200! I really don't want to have to 
go to Accounts/Login items for 1200 individual users to add startAuthoxy.
I was thinking along the lines of adding a StartupItems folder to 
System/Library/User Templates/English.lproj/Library and putting an alias 
of startAuthoxy in there, but that doesn't work.


Maybe I can add a Login script for whenever a new user is created, but 
don't know how this might be done either.


Carl.


On 14/06/2006, at 2:15 PM, Bruce Stephens wrote:

The only sensible(?) way would be to add the startAuthoxy 
preferencepane to the Login Items to each users and they can then 
learn to start it manually.


For us, we taught the girls to use
SystemPreferences->Network and Authoxy
and they soon remembered!!!



Also, although the PowerPC users are still using Authoxy 3.1.x,
the Intel based Macs no longer need to use authoxy.
Just set the proxy connections directly and away it goes.
Everything works through the normal Apple Proxies
as specified.

At the Safari login prompt, type workgroup/username and password
and away it goes.

Alas printers are not all there yet, still need to use smb
mounts with workgroup/username/password/server/printerName paths
there.
Also having trouble with ancient PCL printers...
any suggestions anyone!!

Cheers,
Bruce
Melbourne.



Carl Williams wrote:
Is there a way I can add startAuthoxy as a default startup item for 
any new users that may be created? In a school environment, I have up 
to 1200 kids with individual logins. i would like Authoxy to start up 
whenever a new user logs in.

Carl Williams
--
Carl Williams
East Doncaster Secondary College
20 George St
East Doncaster VIC 3109
Ph. 03 9842 2244
Fax 03 9841 8010
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Department of Education & Training.

Re: [discuss] Authoxy startup

[Carl Williams]

Thanks, Bruce, but I need a good way to add that startup item as a  
Login for each user - there may be up to 1200! I really don't want to  
have to go to Accounts/Login items for 1200 individual users to add  
startAuthoxy.
I was thinking along the lines of adding a StartupItems folder to  
System/Library/User Templates/English.lproj/Library and putting an  
alias of startAuthoxy in there, but that doesn't work.


Maybe I can add a Login script for whenever a new user is created,  
but don't know how this might be done either.


Carl.


On 14/06/2006, at 2:15 PM, Bruce Stephens wrote:

The only sensible(?) way would be to add the startAuthoxy  
preferencepane to the Login Items to each users and they can then  
learn to start it manually.


For us, we taught the girls to use
SystemPreferences->Network and Authoxy
and they soon remembered!!!



Also, although the PowerPC users are still using Authoxy 3.1.x,
the Intel based Macs no longer need to use authoxy.
Just set the proxy connections directly and away it goes.
Everything works through the normal Apple Proxies
as specified.

At the Safari login prompt, type workgroup/username and password
and away it goes.

Alas printers are not all there yet, still need to use smb
mounts with workgroup/username/password/server/printerName paths
there.
Also having trouble with ancient PCL printers...
any suggestions anyone!!

Cheers,
Bruce
Melbourne.



Carl Williams wrote:
Is there a way I can add startAuthoxy as a default startup item  
for any new users that may be created? In a school environment, I  
have up to 1200 kids with individual logins. i would like Authoxy  
to start up whenever a new user logs in.

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Re: [discuss] Authoxy startup

[Bruce Stephens]

The only sensible(?) way would be to add the startAuthoxy preferencepane 
to the Login Items to each users and they can then learn to start it 
manually.


For us, we taught the girls to use
SystemPreferences->Network and Authoxy
and they soon remembered!!!



Also, although the PowerPC users are still using Authoxy 3.1.x,
the Intel based Macs no longer need to use authoxy.
Just set the proxy connections directly and away it goes.
Everything works through the normal Apple Proxies
as specified.

At the Safari login prompt, type workgroup/username and password
and away it goes.

Alas printers are not all there yet, still need to use smb
mounts with workgroup/username/password/server/printerName paths
there.
Also having trouble with ancient PCL printers...
any suggestions anyone!!

Cheers,
Bruce
Melbourne.



Carl Williams wrote:
Is there a way I can add startAuthoxy as a default startup item for any 
new users that may be created? In a school environment, I have up to 
1200 kids with individual logins. i would like Authoxy to start up 
whenever a new user logs in.


Carl Williams


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[discuss] Authoxy startup

[Carl Williams]

Is there a way I can add startAuthoxy as a default startup item for  
any new users that may be created? In a school environment, I have up  
to 1200 kids with individual logins. i would like Authoxy to start up  
whenever a new user logs in.


Carl Williams


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Re: [discuss] Authoxy 3.2.5

[Heath Raftery]

I'm still stumped about the issue you're seeing Bruce. Nonetheless,  
I've made an official release of version 3.2.5. The only addition  
I've made from the "internal" 3.2.5 is a change to the logging  
routing which should fix the absence of logging in later versions of  
the OS. At least this may shine a little more light on the issue at  
hand.


The release fixes a couple of things with 3.2 that were preventing  
Authoxy from starting, so the release needed to be made. I'm still  
keen to sort out the troubles you're seeing, Bruce. Try the  
"official" 3.2.5 release and check what the Messages tab in Authoxy  
says.


Heath

On 12/04/2006, at 1:12 AM, Bruce Stephens wrote:


OK,
I finally had a chance to sit down and retest Authoxy 3.2.5 again  
and get proper logs!! Environment - G4 powerBook 10.4.6, clean with

ethernal to log packets.
Installed Authoxy 3.1.2... worked perfectly all the way.
Installed Authoxy 3.2.5 over the top and logs the following
groups of packets.



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[discuss] Authoxy 3.2.5

[Bruce Stephens]

OK,
I finally had a chance to sit down and retest Authoxy 3.2.5 again and 
get proper logs!! Environment - G4 powerBook 10.4.6, clean with

ethernal to log packets.
Installed Authoxy 3.1.2... worked perfectly all the way.
Installed Authoxy 3.2.5 over the top and logs the following
groups of packets.

(Heath, I'll send the full files to you directly rather than
cluttering the list.)


First the source packets...

From 172.16.50.4 (powerBook) to 36.199.217.151 (Google) via 172.16.1.1 
Proxy Server



...lF...$.E..<[EMAIL PROTECTED]@.2.
...P.z
...9*.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]@.2.
...P..".79
*.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]@..P..2.
...P.."..9
*.GET http://www.google.co
m.au/ HTTP/1.1..Accept: */*..A
ccept-Language: en..Accept-Enc
oding: gzip, deflate..Cookie:
PREF=ID=b2c508911a37527e:TM=11
38345926:LM=1138345926:S=0zgtd
kz2lcZTgImw..User-Agent: Mozil
la/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac
OS X; en) AppleWebKit/418 (KHT
ML, like Gecko) Safari/417.9.2
..Connection: keep-alive..Prox
y-Connection: keep-alive..Host
: www.google.com.au..Proxy-Aut
horization: NTLM TlRMTVNTUAABA
AAAB4IIAAA
=

[EMAIL PROTECTED]@.2.
...P../...$..Q...9
*...1k

(repeated three times)
--
And the return packets...

Return TO 172.16.50.4 FROM 172.16.1 1 (Proxy)

..$..lF...E..<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
..2..P"...Dp.A
..

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
..2..P".../...B...
1k.9*.HTTP/1.1 407 Proxy Authe
ntication Required ( Access is
 denied.  )..Via:1.1 PROXY2004
..Proxy-Authenticate: NTLM TlR
MTVNTUAACGgAaADgFgokCe
ZZ3uxvqvNMAALQAtABSAAA
ABQCTCA9UAE8ATwBSAEEASwBDA
E8ATABMAEUARwBFAAIAGgBUAE8ATwB
SAEEASwBDAE8ATABMAEUARwBFAAEAE
gBQAFIATwBYAFkAMgAwADAANAAEADA
AdABvAG8AcgBhAGsAYwBvAGwAbABlA
GcAZQAuAHYAaQBjAC4AZQBkAHUALgB
hAHUAAwBEAFAAUgBPAFgAWQAyADAAM
AA0AC4AdABvAG8AcgBhAGsAYwBvAGw
AbABlAGcAZQAuAHYAaQBjAC4AZQBkA
HUALgBhAHUAAA==..Pragma: n
o-cache..Cache-Control: no-cac
he..Content-Type: text/html..C
ontent-Length: 0 

..$..lF...E..<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
..2..P..\..o+*.$..Dp..
..

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
..2..P..\..p+*.I..BK.Q
1l.9*.HTTP/1.1 407 Proxy Authe
ntication Required ( Access is
 denied.  )..Via:1.1 PROXY2004
..Proxy-Authenticate: NTLM TlR
MTVNTUAACGgAaADgFgokCD
GmAbnBMb2cAALQAtABSAAA
ABQCTCA9UAE8ATwBSAEEASwBDA
E8ATABMAEUARwBFAAIAGgBUAE8ATwB
SAEEASwBDAE8ATABMAEUARwBFAAEAE
gBQAFIATwBYAFkAMgAwADAANAAEADA
AdABvAG8AcgBhAGsAYwBvAGwAbABlA
GcAZQAuAHYAaQBjAC4AZQBkAHUALgB
hAHUAAwBEAFAAUgBPAFgAWQAyADAAM
AA0AC4AdABvAG8AcgBhAGsAYwBvAGw
AbABlAGcAZQAuAHYAaQBjAC4AZQBkA
HUALgBhAHUAAA==..Pragma: n
o-cache..Cache-Control: no-cac
he..Content-Type: text/html..C
ontent-Length: 0 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
..2..P..\...+*?.JY
1l.9*.HTTP/1.1 407 Proxy Authe
ntication Required ( The ISA S
erver requires authorization t
o fulfill the request. Access
to the Web Proxy service is de
nied.  )..Via:1.1 PROXY2004..P
roxy-Authenticate: NTLM..Proxy
-Authenticate: Basic realm="PR
OXY2004.toorakcollege.vic.edu.
au"..Proxy-Authenticate: Diges
t qop="auth", realm="PROXY2004
.toorakcollege.vic.edu.au", no
nce="9988d0addd4c0745721532200
0008aa89fe0913591d996f6170ae3f
324a0"..Proxy-Authenticate: Ke
rberos..Proxy-Authenticate: Ne
gotiate..Connection: close..Pr
oxy-Connection: close..Pragma:
 no-cache..Cache-Control: no-c
ache..Content-Type: text/html.
.Content-Length: 2384  .
.Th
e page cannot be displayed..A:link {...FONT:
8pt/11pt verdana; COLOR: #ff00
00..}..A:visited {...FONT: 8pt
/11pt verdana; COLOR: #4e4e4e.
.}..  
..  ....
 The page ..  cannot
 be displayed..
  ..There is a problem with
 the ..  p

-
etc...


I then removed Authoxy 3.2.5 (manually)
and reinstalled 3.1.2... works perfectly.

Same IP/domain names etc used...


Heath, hope this helps in some way!!
Cheers,
Bruce Stephens.

Re: [discuss] Authoxy

[Heath Raftery]

Brian,

On 16/03/2006, at 8:34 AM, Brian Kilpatrick wrote:

Im running authoxy 3.2 on 10.3.9, and it works perfectly as  
documented.


Cool. I'm curious - have you ever installed the Apple developer  
tools? I'm trying to isolate a bug with 3.2, and that information  
would help.


However, I want to be able to have outside clients connect, and i  
cant get a response from the authoxy daemon when using the mac's  
non loopback IP. Is this by design?


It is by design. Releasing something that opens on the local machine,  
a connection to the world, offers you up for a whole assortment of  
nightmares! However, I do realise the attraction of such a feature  
and have built it that way in the past, mostly for my private use.  
The source for Authoxy is available, and building with this option is  
trivial - if you are comfortable building Authoxy in the first place.


If not, reply with a feature request for this to be an option, and  
I'll put it on the list for the next version ;)


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[discuss] Authoxy

[Brian Kilpatrick]

Im running authoxy 3.2 on 10.3.9, and it works perfectly as documented. 
However, I want to be able to have outside clients connect, and i cant 
get a response from the authoxy daemon when using the mac's non loopback 
IP. Is this by design?


Brian

[discuss] Authoxy and Network SpyAlert

[gumdrop]

Anyone have experience using SpyAlert and Authoxy together?   As soon 
as I installed Authoxy and pointed my web traffic to it, SpyAlert 
stopped intercepting outgoing traffic. Maybe it should be obvious, but 
I was surprised that SpyAlert does not intercept traffic to 127.0.0.1. 
Maybe it's not even possible for traffic to 127.0.0.1 to be 
intercepted.  Any suggestions?

[discuss] Authoxy 3.1.2

[Heath Raftery]

Hi there list,
As announced on the announce list, Authoxy 3.1.2 has been posted to 
HRSoftWorks. In the weeks following the discussion about possible 3.1.2 
features on this list, I have been rather busy with University. Things 
are much more favourable now however, as I wind up my five years of a 
Computer Engineering degree. I am loving the extra spare time! I have 
managed to get another Authoxy release out then, which addresses a few 
of the things that were discussed.

Those NTLM changes are in, so I hope others can take advantage of the 
excellent background work you guys performed. I made some changes to 
startAuthoxy which I think will help, but I'm still not convinced it is 
solved in all situations. The connection between the preference pane 
interface and the daemon should be much more stable, and odd situations 
now recoverable from within that interface. Unfortunately I did not 
find a workaround for the security/authorisation feature for this 
release.

Regards,
Heath
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[discuss] Authoxy/NTLM update

[Steven Stratford]

Thought you might like to know that as far as I can tell, Authoxy has been
working flawlessly with our MS NTLM proxy server since my last posting on
9/23. I haven't even encountered either of the issues I mentioned then
(crashing system preferences, Authoxy messages window acting weird). I am
tickled pink that I'm finally a full-fledged member of our Microsoft
Network. Even if "they" don't think so.  :)

Once again, thanks, specially to Bruce who helped us nail down the problem
and to Heath for the crack programming. (If any of you on the list haven't
paid Heath for his work, do so! I did--even sent extra because $5 is a dirt
cheap steal.) We need to get Authoxy mentioned in MacAddict or MacUpdate or
MacGoGetThisSoftwareToday...

Looking forward to the 3.1.2 final version.

--Steve

Re: [discuss] Authoxy starts, but doesn't do anything else

[Heath Raftery]

Ronen,
On 18/07/2004, at 1:28 PM, Ronen Lazarovitch wrote:
Hey Heath and All
	I use a OS X 10.3.4 on a G3 iBook 900 and am connected to the 
university internet connection, which uses an HTTP Proxy with 
authentication (no automatic configuration and no NTLM support as far 
as I'm aware). Panther lets me access internet sites through it's own 
HTTP settings, but I can't access internet sites that require a 
password (such as the .Mac site and my internet banking) nor can I 
download e-mail off my POP account. I was hoping that Authoxy could 
help fix some/all of this for me.
Do these sites start with https (also known as secure HTTP)?
	The problem is that Authoxy (version 3.1) seems to start fine. I put 
in all my settings into the Control Panel, click 'Start' and it 
starts. I get a nice "Jul 18 15:00:39 : Authoxy has started 
successfully" message. But that's it. Authoxy tells me it's running "1 
Daemon on 127.0.0.1 port 8080" and that's it. Trying to access any of 
those services I mentioned above doesn't seem to work, and no internet 
application I start seems to even create a new daemon. The 'Messages' 
menu stays completely blank and nothing happens.
Very little appears in the Messages menu after the initial start 
message, unless you have the "Write debugging information to the system 
log" option checked before you start Authoxy. It would be a good idea 
to enable this option if you haven't already, while you sort these 
things out.

	I've tried telling the OS X HTTP settings I have no authentication, 
tried erasing them completely, tried putting them in, tried using 
multiple internet browsers and applications (some of which support 
HTTP Proxies, other which support SOCKETS and other that support 
neither) and none of them seem to cause any reaction to Authoxy.
So you've set the system proxy settings (System 
Preferences->Network->Proxies) to 127.0.0.1 port 8080 (as described in 
the ReadMe)? It sounds like your network setup might also require HTTPS 
sites to go through the proxy. In that case you also need to set the 
Secure Web Proxy setting in the same dialog to 127.0.0.1 port 8080.

Let us know how that goes.
Heath
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[discuss] Authoxy starts, but doesn't do anything else

[Ronen Lazarovitch]

Hey Heath and All
I use a OS X 10.3.4 on a G3 iBook 900 and am connected to the university internet connection, which uses an HTTP Proxy with authentication (no automatic configuration and no NTLM support as far as I'm aware). Panther lets me access internet sites through it's own HTTP settings, but I can't access internet sites that require a password (such as the .Mac site and my internet banking) nor can I download e-mail off my POP account. I was hoping that Authoxy could help fix some/all of this for me.
The problem is that Authoxy (version 3.1) seems to start fine. I put in all my settings into the Control Panel, click 'Start' and it starts. I get a nice "Jul 18 15:00:39 : Authoxy has started successfully" message. But that's it. Authoxy tells me it's running "1 Daemon on 127.0.0.1 port 8080" and that's it. Trying to access any of those services I mentioned above doesn't seem to work, and no internet application I start seems to even create a new daemon. The 'Messages' menu stays completely blank and nothing happens.
I've tried telling the OS X HTTP settings I have no authentication, tried erasing them completely, tried putting them in, tried using multiple internet browsers and applications (some of which support HTTP Proxies, other which support SOCKETS and other that support neither) and none of them seem to cause any reaction to Authoxy.

Am I doing something wrong? I'd really appreciate some help/input/advice.

Cheers,
Ronen

Re: [discuss] Authoxy reports Interrupted system call when accessing pages in IE

[bruce]

Thanks I will have a look asap but our servers will be down tomorrow until 3:30pm.
The local power supply authority is changing power cables tommorow and our UPS's only last 45 minutes. So we will shut down at 8:30am and back up at 3:30pm.
I shall try after that!!
Thanks for the CVS will try and get that tonight!!

As for multiple daemons, you imply that they spawn at the time
of incoming messages. If that is the case, then they will probably be too slow.
For a comparison, Apache spawns n daemons that wait for incoming messages
and when they are used and die, a new process is spawned/restarted immediately
and these daemons simply wait for their next message. In other words the spawning/slow process start has already been done. The number of daemons is specified in the httpd.conf file and the n daemons are spawned at startup.
In the case of authoxy, if you suddenly receive say 8 port 80/8080 requests
then all of a sudden the poor Unix system has to rapidly create 8 new daemons
with resources and attach the sockets etc... Would take ages and some requests would probably timeout. Live Apache daemons on the other hand have a cycle time of say 1/100
of a sec and if say 16 daemons are running at any one time they can handle say
1600 hits per second which is more like it. The hard work has already been done.

This was why ages ago I asked if we could have an indicator of how many
daemons were active etc in say the menu bar or somewhere else. Its really
a fascinating process and will allow control of how the authoxy server
will operate. 

Another one is the name server cacheing daemon although I've never really
got into that one.

Cheers,
Bruce.

PS Now to sort out CVS which I have never really got into I have to admit... Opps sorry


>Hi Bruce,
>
>On 09/06/2004, at 11:20 AM, bruce wrote:
>> Hope this helps perhaps..
>
>Yeah, it does. There are some good points in there - thanks very much!

>FYI, Authoxy is designed to spawn as many deamons as needed to handle

>the incoming requests. I haven't seen any evidence of them clashing 
>until now. In fact, they are designed to play nicely with each other.

>Nonetheless, your points about daemons not dying right away may indeed

>be relevant.
>
>> PS Love to see your source code - promise not to distribute!!
>
>Distribute all you want, it's open! I took a big step early in May and

>GPL'ed the code. Please go take a look: 
>
>
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[discuss] Authoxy reports Interrupted system call when accessing pages in IE

[Heath Raftery]

Hi gang,
Hoping someone has seen this before, because I'm in the dark a bit 
here. I have a user who is trying to get her G5 w/ OS X 10.3.4 working 
past an ISA proxy server w/ Small Business Server. So she's trying 
Authoxy's NTLM support.

Apparently it worked once upon a time, but now everytime she goes to 
view a web page in IE, Authoxy reports:

Jun  8 15:07:19 : Fatal Error: unable to connect to talker socket. 
Errno:
Interrupted system call
Jun  8 15:07:19 : Couldn't open connection to proxy server. Errno:
Interrupted system call
every second or so. She can surf around for a bit but gets those 
messages on every page she hits. Then it all falls apart when she 
attempts to access a secure site. IE shows an incomplete error msg "The 
attempt to load 'Accessing URL: ..." and then Authoxy spits this out:

Jun  8 15:09:12 : Fatal Error: unable to create shared memory
Since I developed Authoxy I have a little bit of inside knowledge about 
these error messages, but not enough to see exactly what the problem 
is. In fact, I've never actually seen the messages appear in practice.

The talker socket is the connection to the proxy. The failure is on the 
system call to connect() but the man page doesn't show any information 
on that particular Errno. A bit of web searching shows that 
"Interrupted system call" (also known as EINTR) occurs when a blocking 
call is interrupted by another signal (like a break or quit) but it 
shouldn't actually appear on OS X because FreeBSD is designed to 
automatically restart the call! Odd stuff - I'm leaning towards the 
possibility that perhaps IE itself isn't happy with the connection 
attempt (it times out perhaps) and cancels the call.

And the second error is unusual too. It occurs when the system call 
shmget fails in the NTLM code. Reasons are that the key, which is based 
on the PID of authoxyd, is not unique or because there are no resources 
left to create more shared memory. Anyone else seeing the error?

Any chance anyone has seen similar behaviour from Authoxy, and might 
know of things to try? It is very hard to troubleshoot these things 
without access to the site...

Regards,
Heath
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[discuss] Authoxy on Windows/Unix/Linux/anything

[Heath Raftery]

Hey folks,

I was just helping a friend out with her WinXP system. She wanted to 
use an application called WebShots, which allows uploading photos to 
the web. It supported a proxy setting, but didn't support 
authentication. After a bit of mucking around, I realised that given we 
were both on the same network, Authoxy could help her out.

So I made a very quick change to the code to allow connections from 
computers other than the localhost, had her change her proxy setting to 
my computer, and she was away! Of course, as far as the upstream proxy 
is concerned, all the traffic is coming from my computer, so the 
potential for abuse is certainly there. But does anyone think this 
would be a useful feature? I've been asked on a number of occasions 
whether there is a solution for Windows or OS 9, and it seems that as 
long as you have an OS X system on the same network, that this is a 
solution of sorts.

Any comments?
Heath
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Re: [discuss] Authoxy 3.0 - Daemon Port does not stick

[Laurent Daudelin]

on 03/02/04 04:04, Heath Raftery at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> This is, and always has been, by design! Looks like I need to revise
> the interface there. The thing is, when the Preference Pane is used the
> start the daemon, the PP knows the port number it used to start the
> daemon with. After you close System Preferences and re-open it, there
> is no way for the Preference Pane to know whether it started the
> daemon, whether the port number has changed since, whether startAuthoxy
> was used to restart the daemon, or whether the preferences has changed,
> so to be safe it reports the port as "unknown". The daemon will
> continue to run on the port you started it, completely independent of
> the status reported in the Preference Pane.
> 
> I realise this really should be made clearer.

Heath,

I think it would be less confusing if you were not displaying the "unknown".
I think that's why people assume something is wrong. Since getting the port
number is not that much reliable, why don't you stop displaying it at all?
What is it good for if you can only display when you start the daemon?

-Laurent.
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Re: [discuss] Authoxy 3.0 - Daemon Port does not stick

[Kurt Seemann]

Heath,

Thanks.  I have since discovered that the recent access problems I had
coincidently were due to server access issues which the IT support have
fixed.  

So for all readers, as normal, Heath's Authoxy was actually working just
fine, but the 'other end', by freak coincidence, had the issues, not
authoxy.

On the matter of the CGI script  I previously received the very short tech
support reply that 'authoxy is not supported' and that the cgi script works
just fine for windows.

It seems the firewall has a culture too!

Keep up the outstanding work  Heath!

Kurt





.. on 3/2/04 8:04 PM, Heath Raftery at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> Hi Heath, etal.
>> 
>> Two things,
>> 
>> ONE:
>> I have noticed that since updating to authoxy 3, both on Panther
>> 10.3.2 and
>> Jaguar 10.2.8, some odd things happen.  In Jaguar, Authoxy 3, when the
>> daemon in running (127.0.0.1) it too often loses its port dropping to
>> 'unknown'.  This seems to cause failure to access the net, in my case
>> via
>> system prefs>softwareupdates.  I noticed if I turn authoxy off then  on
>> again, it correctly establishes the port (8080) and I can then
>> successfully
>> execute the SWUpdate function.  However, in Panther, using Authoxy
>> 3.0, I
>> seem to be able to do the SWUpdate, even when port unknown is shown.
>> Is
>> this issue known?  I am thinking I may need to go back to v2.3 of
>> authoxy
>> for jaguar10.2.8. ???
> 
> This is, and always has been, by design! Looks like I need to revise
> the interface there. The thing is, when the Preference Pane is used the
> start the daemon, the PP knows the port number it used to start the
> daemon with. After you close System Preferences and re-open it, there
> is no way for the Preference Pane to know whether it started the
> daemon, whether the port number has changed since, whether startAuthoxy
> was used to restart the daemon, or whether the preferences has changed,
> so to be safe it reports the port as "unknown". The daemon will
> continue to run on the port you started it, completely independent of
> the status reported in the Preference Pane.
> 
> I realise this really should be made clearer.
> 
>> TWO:
>> I know I have mentioned it before, but my university technicians won't
>> budge
>> on the issue that our autoproxy script is correctly written and
>> functioning
>> just fine, eventhough its not compatible with Macs (perceived as
>> another
>> weak feature of macs I think).  One technician reckons Mozilla and an
>> old
>> netscape version used to handle *.cgi autoproxy scripts, but that now
>> both
>> don't either on Macs.  We use the following script:
>> 
>> 
>> The position is that the *.cgi script is working just fine, they see no
>> reason to move to *.pac.
>> 
>> What is the difference between a *.pac and *.cgi auto proxy anyway?
>> Can Authoxy be tweaked to specifically accommodate a *.cgi autoproxy
>> script
>> and/or a *.pac autoproxy script somehow?
> 
> The difference is minimal. The .pac is a text file sitting on a server
> ready to be parsed by the Javascript interpreter in Authoxy. The .cgi
> is (usually) a Perl script sitting on a server ready to be executed by
> the server, and returns a text file which is the pac file. This should
> all happen behind the scenes. When you request a pac file from the
> server, it should just return the pac file. When you request a cgi
> script from the server, the server should execute the script and return
> you the result.
> 
> The problem with the cgi script, as we have both demonstrated in the
> past, is that the server is unable to execute it. It returns a failure,
> meaning the server can't execute it. Your admins need to understand
> this:
> 
> ***the problem lies on the server side***
> 
> You need to show them the output of any or all of the following:
> 
> * Any browser navigating to http://config.scu.edu.au/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi
> * % curl http://config.scu.edu.au/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi
> * % telnet http://config.scu.edu.au 80
> % GET /cgi-bin/proxy.cgi HTTP/1.0   
> 
> Where % means "at the Terminal prompt".
> 
> I believe we have already established that any of these methods will do
> the same thing they do from my end - return a html page from the server
> telling us that an internal error occured. Before Authoxy can do
> anything at all, this needs to be fixed. If your admins don't
> understand this, perhaps they should call me. Perhaps not too, I can be
> pretty short-tempered if I think they are BS'ing their job.



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Re: [discuss] Authoxy 3.0 - Daemon Port does not stick

[Heath Raftery]

On 01/02/2004, at 12:54 AM, Kurt Seemann wrote:

Hi Heath, etal.

Two things,

ONE:
I have noticed that since updating to authoxy 3, both on Panther 
10.3.2 and
Jaguar 10.2.8, some odd things happen.  In Jaguar, Authoxy 3, when the
daemon in running (127.0.0.1) it too often loses its port dropping to
'unknown'.  This seems to cause failure to access the net, in my case 
via
system prefs>softwareupdates.  I noticed if I turn authoxy off then  on
again, it correctly establishes the port (8080) and I can then 
successfully
execute the SWUpdate function.  However, in Panther, using Authoxy 
3.0, I
seem to be able to do the SWUpdate, even when port unknown is shown.  
Is
this issue known?  I am thinking I may need to go back to v2.3 of 
authoxy
for jaguar10.2.8. ???
This is, and always has been, by design! Looks like I need to revise 
the interface there. The thing is, when the Preference Pane is used the 
start the daemon, the PP knows the port number it used to start the 
daemon with. After you close System Preferences and re-open it, there 
is no way for the Preference Pane to know whether it started the 
daemon, whether the port number has changed since, whether startAuthoxy 
was used to restart the daemon, or whether the preferences has changed, 
so to be safe it reports the port as "unknown". The daemon will 
continue to run on the port you started it, completely independent of 
the status reported in the Preference Pane.

I realise this really should be made clearer.

TWO:
I know I have mentioned it before, but my university technicians won't 
budge
on the issue that our autoproxy script is correctly written and 
functioning
just fine, eventhough its not compatible with Macs (perceived as 
another
weak feature of macs I think).  One technician reckons Mozilla and an 
old
netscape version used to handle *.cgi autoproxy scripts, but that now 
both
don't either on Macs.  We use the following script:


The position is that the *.cgi script is working just fine, they see no
reason to move to *.pac.
What is the difference between a *.pac and *.cgi auto proxy anyway?
Can Authoxy be tweaked to specifically accommodate a *.cgi autoproxy 
script
and/or a *.pac autoproxy script somehow?
The difference is minimal. The .pac is a text file sitting on a server 
ready to be parsed by the Javascript interpreter in Authoxy. The .cgi 
is (usually) a Perl script sitting on a server ready to be executed by 
the server, and returns a text file which is the pac file. This should 
all happen behind the scenes. When you request a pac file from the 
server, it should just return the pac file. When you request a cgi 
script from the server, the server should execute the script and return 
you the result.

The problem with the cgi script, as we have both demonstrated in the 
past, is that the server is unable to execute it. It returns a failure, 
meaning the server can't execute it. Your admins need to understand 
this:

***the problem lies on the server side***

You need to show them the output of any or all of the following:

* Any browser navigating to http://config.scu.edu.au/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi
* % curl http://config.scu.edu.au/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi
* % telnet http://config.scu.edu.au 80
% GET /cgi-bin/proxy.cgi HTTP/1.0   
Where % means "at the Terminal prompt".

I believe we have already established that any of these methods will do 
the same thing they do from my end - return a html page from the server 
telling us that an internal error occured. Before Authoxy can do 
anything at all, this needs to be fixed. If your admins don't 
understand this, perhaps they should call me. Perhaps not too, I can be 
pretty short-tempered if I think they are BS'ing their job.

Heath
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Re: [discuss] Authoxy 3.0 - Daemon Port does not stick

[Laurent Daudelin]

on 31/01/04 08:54, Kurt Seemann at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi Heath, etal.
> 
> Two things,
> 
> ONE: 
> I have noticed that since updating to authoxy 3, both on Panther 10.3.2 and
> Jaguar 10.2.8, some odd things happen.  In Jaguar, Authoxy 3, when the
> daemon in running (127.0.0.1) it too often loses its port dropping to
> 'unknown'.  This seems to cause failure to access the net, in my case via
> system prefs>softwareupdates.  I noticed if I turn authoxy off then  on
> again, it correctly establishes the port (8080) and I can then successfully
> execute the SWUpdate function.  However, in Panther, using Authoxy 3.0, I
> seem to be able to do the SWUpdate, even when port unknown is shown.  Is
> this issue known?  I am thinking I may need to go back to v2.3 of authoxy
> for jaguar10.2.8. ???
> 
> TWO:
> I know I have mentioned it before, but my university technicians won't budge
> on the issue that our autoproxy script is correctly written and functioning
> just fine, eventhough its not compatible with Macs (perceived as another
> weak feature of macs I think).  One technician reckons Mozilla and an old
> netscape version used to handle *.cgi autoproxy scripts, but that now both
> don't either on Macs.  We use the following script:
> 
> 
> The position is that the *.cgi script is working just fine, they see no
> reason to move to *.pac.
> 
> What is the difference between a *.pac and *.cgi auto proxy anyway?
> Can Authoxy be tweaked to specifically accommodate a *.cgi autoproxy script
> and/or a *.cgi autoproxy script somehow?
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Kurt
> 

I think there are some cosmetic issues with Authoxy 3, the port number being
one of them. But, this has been present for a long time. When you open
Authoxy pref pane *after* the daemon is running, it always report "unknown"
port number...

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[discuss] Authoxy 3.0 - Daemon Port does not stick

[Kurt Seemann]

Title: Authoxy 3.0 - Daemon Port does not stick



Hi Heath, etal.

Just fixing that last typo, I meant to say.

What is the difference between a *.pac and *.cgi auto proxy anyway?
Can Authoxy be tweaked to specifically accommodate a *.cgi autoproxy script and/or a *.pac autoproxy script somehow?

Many thanks

Kurt

[discuss] Authoxy 3.0 - Daemon Port does not stick

[Kurt Seemann]

Hi Heath, etal.

Two things,

ONE: 
I have noticed that since updating to authoxy 3, both on Panther 10.3.2 and
Jaguar 10.2.8, some odd things happen.  In Jaguar, Authoxy 3, when the
daemon in running (127.0.0.1) it too often loses its port dropping to
'unknown'.  This seems to cause failure to access the net, in my case via
system prefs>softwareupdates.  I noticed if I turn authoxy off then  on
again, it correctly establishes the port (8080) and I can then successfully
execute the SWUpdate function.  However, in Panther, using Authoxy 3.0, I
seem to be able to do the SWUpdate, even when port unknown is shown.  Is
this issue known?  I am thinking I may need to go back to v2.3 of authoxy
for jaguar10.2.8. ???

TWO:
I know I have mentioned it before, but my university technicians won't budge
on the issue that our autoproxy script is correctly written and functioning
just fine, eventhough its not compatible with Macs (perceived as another
weak feature of macs I think).  One technician reckons Mozilla and an old
netscape version used to handle *.cgi autoproxy scripts, but that now both
don't either on Macs.  We use the following script:


The position is that the *.cgi script is working just fine, they see no
reason to move to *.pac.

What is the difference between a *.pac and *.cgi auto proxy anyway?
Can Authoxy be tweaked to specifically accommodate a *.cgi autoproxy script
and/or a *.cgi autoproxy script somehow?

Many thanks

Kurt

Re: [discuss] Authoxy 2.3

[Roger Traill]

Title: Re: [discuss] Authoxy 2.3


Death Heath,

Do you think you might be adding support for ISA Server 2000  (microsoft)which requires
Authentication by Microsoft Challenge/Response (Encrypted, not in
clear)?  If so any idea of time frame?

Panthers Authentication does not seem to do
this.

Thanks,

At 0:43 +1100 30/12/03, Heath Raftery wrote:
Folks,

Authoxy 2.2.5 on Jaguar was a joke as well. Authoxy 2.3 is the first
version since 2.1 I think, which has actually been tested in house on
Jaguar. This highly unprofessional lapse was embarrassingly enough,
due to me misplacing my Jaguar CDs! After going home for the Christmas
break, I have been reunited with them, and finally got down to some
serious testing with Jaguar.

After much frustration, I rebuilt the Authoxy package for Xcode in
Panther from scratch, and made use of the support in the new developer
tools for previous operating system. Everything finally appears to be
working out well! I must say, given a bit of time to get familiar with
the layout, Xcode really does seem to be a sophisticated product. By
the way, Xcode is the new development tool from Apple in Panther, for
those who are not aware.

The final setup not only should finally bring relief to Jaguar users,
it also greatly streamlines my workflow. Hopefully this means more
time adding functionality and less time fighting with the tools.
Thanks to all those that reported problems with the last few versions,
it really helped out (and spurred me on!). Keep it up!

Happy New Year!
Heath
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[discuss] Authoxy 2.3

[Heath Raftery]

Folks,

Authoxy 2.2.5 on Jaguar was a joke as well. Authoxy 2.3 is the first 
version since 2.1 I think, which has actually been tested in house on 
Jaguar. This highly unprofessional lapse was embarrassingly enough, due 
to me misplacing my Jaguar CDs! After going home for the Christmas 
break, I have been reunited with them, and finally got down to some 
serious testing with Jaguar.

After much frustration, I rebuilt the Authoxy package for Xcode in 
Panther from scratch, and made use of the support in the new developer 
tools for previous operating system. Everything finally appears to be 
working out well! I must say, given a bit of time to get familiar with 
the layout, Xcode really does seem to be a sophisticated product. By 
the way, Xcode is the new development tool from Apple in Panther, for 
those who are not aware.

The final setup not only should finally bring relief to Jaguar users, 
it also greatly streamlines my workflow. Hopefully this means more time 
adding functionality and less time fighting with the tools. Thanks to 
all those that reported problems with the last few versions, it really 
helped out (and spurred me on!). Keep it up!

Happy New Year!
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[discuss] Authoxy 2.1: automatic proxy configuration slow?

[Laurent Daudelin]

Heath,

I've been trying version 2.1 for the last 2 days. I did unlock the Authoxy
preferences file and haven't had the problem with the user ID and password
reset, like what was happening with 2.0. So, so far, so good!

However, I did try the automatic proxy configuration yesterday. Toward the
end of the day, I did switch it to the static address of the proxy server.
All the time I was using the automatic proxy configuration, pages from
various sites were taking forever to load, most of the time resulting in a
time-out. Everything was really slow. I don't know if I can be more helpful,
Heath, but just ask if you need something and I'll try to provide it to you.

For the time being, however, I will remain with the static address,
unfortunately.

Do you have any idea about what it could be? Anybody else notice a slow down
when using auto proxy configuration as opposed to using the server static
address?

-Laurent.
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Re: [discuss] Authoxy v2.0 and Panther

[Phill Berrie]

Heath et. al.,

Thought I should warn people of a potential problem with installing 
Authoxy 2.1.
The image would not mount under Safari. I killed the mount process and 
it fritzed
the Finder so that I had to remove a number of preference files using 
the terminal
and logout and reboot a number of times before I could get it working 
properly.

When I had done this I was then able to mount the downloaded disk image 
from the
finder and install Authoxy 2.1 as normal, so the problem might be some 
sort of bad
interaction between the disk image and Safari. Also the problem may 
have been
specific to my machine, but I thought I should let people know.

Happy Authoxying.

Phill.

On 30/11/2003, at 10:15 AM, Heath Raftery wrote:

Hi Folks,

I installed the release version of Panther yesterday (I had been using 
a pre-release development seed) and immediately could repeat your 
symptoms! Not every time though - looked like an odd one. At first I 
was worried something major had changed in the final version of 
Panther, but fairly quickly tracked it down to a little off by one 
error that has been in Authoxy the whole time! Of course, it would 
only trigger rarely, and Panther must have made those chances a little 
higher.

Thanks to everyone for the preliminary investigative work - it 
certainly makes my job a *whole* lot easier!

Authoxy 2.1 is up on the site, and carries the fix. Please note that I 
have *not* tested this on Jaguar (my CDs are all in packing boxes 
somewhere!), so let me know right away if you see problems. You might 
also notice I have a new address on the web site ;)

Heath

On 17/11/2003, at 2:14 PM, Fleur Harrison wrote:

Hi Simon. I'm having exactly the same problem with the 
password/username resetting. Very frustrating as before I installed 
Panther, Authoxy was working fine. I have also run into probs with 
the Stop/Start button not working.

Heath - any idea when these probs might be fixed? (Not to put any 
pressure on you!)

Thanks,
Fleur
On 11/11/2003, at 12:12 PM, Simon Plint wrote:

Authoxites,

Anyone having problems with v2 and Panther.

I am finding that the username and password keep resetting back to 
their default values. Also, at times, the Start/Stop button does not 
seem to work. Just now I tried to start Authoxy with the Start/Stop 
button without any response from the Authoxy preference pane. Then I 
ran the Start Authoxy app and Authoxy is running but still the pref 
panes does not indicate this.

Have those darstedly engineers at Apple done something to trip up 
Authoxy?

Thanks,
Simon.


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Re: [discuss] Authoxy v2.0 and Panther

[Heath Raftery]

Hi Folks,

I installed the release version of Panther yesterday (I had been using 
a pre-release development seed) and immediately could repeat your 
symptoms! Not every time though - looked like an odd one. At first I 
was worried something major had changed in the final version of 
Panther, but fairly quickly tracked it down to a little off by one 
error that has been in Authoxy the whole time! Of course, it would only 
trigger rarely, and Panther must have made those chances a little 
higher.

Thanks to everyone for the preliminary investigative work - it 
certainly makes my job a *whole* lot easier!

Authoxy 2.1 is up on the site, and carries the fix. Please note that I 
have *not* tested this on Jaguar (my CDs are all in packing boxes 
somewhere!), so let me know right away if you see problems. You might 
also notice I have a new address on the web site ;)

Heath

On 17/11/2003, at 2:14 PM, Fleur Harrison wrote:

Hi Simon. I'm having exactly the same problem with the 
password/username resetting. Very frustrating as before I installed 
Panther, Authoxy was working fine. I have also run into probs with the 
Stop/Start button not working.

Heath - any idea when these probs might be fixed? (Not to put any 
pressure on you!)

Thanks,
Fleur
On 11/11/2003, at 12:12 PM, Simon Plint wrote:

Authoxites,

Anyone having problems with v2 and Panther.

I am finding that the username and password keep resetting back to 
their default values. Also, at times, the Start/Stop button does not 
seem to work. Just now I tried to start Authoxy with the Start/Stop 
button without any response from the Authoxy preference pane. Then I 
ran the Start Authoxy app and Authoxy is running but still the pref 
panes does not indicate this.

Have those darstedly engineers at Apple done something to trip up 
Authoxy?

Thanks,
Simon.

Re: [discuss] Authoxy v2.0 and Panther

[Laurent Daudelin]

on 16/11/03 22:41, Fleur Harrison at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Sorry Laurent, I think I must have missed that email, or forgotten
> about it, or something stupid like that. But thank you for letting me
> know again, I just did what you said and it seems to have worked.
> Fingers crossed it will stay that way! Are there any possible bad
> consequences to locking the Authoxy preference file?

The only "side-effect" is that Authoxy won't tell you in the preference if
the daemon is started, since it writes the PID of the process at login time.

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Re: [discuss] Authoxy v2.0 and Panther

[Laurent Daudelin]

on 16/11/03 22:14, Fleur Harrison at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi Simon. I'm having exactly the same problem with the
> password/username resetting. Very frustrating as before I installed
> Panther, Authoxy was working fine. I have also run into probs with the
> Stop/Start button not working.
> 
> Heath - any idea when these probs might be fixed? (Not to put any
> pressure on you!)
> 
> Thanks,
> Fleur
> 
> On 11/11/2003, at 12:12 PM, Simon Plint wrote:
> 
>> Authoxites,
>> 
>> Anyone having problems with v2 and Panther.
>> 
>> I am finding that the username and password keep resetting back to
>> their default values. Also, at times, the Start/Stop button does not
>> seem to work. Just now I tried to start Authoxy with the Start/Stop
>> button without any response from the Authoxy preference pane. Then I
>> ran the Start Authoxy app and Authoxy is running but still the pref
>> panes does not indicate this.
>> 
>> Have those darstedly engineers at Apple done something to trip up
>> Authoxy?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Simon.
>> 

I thought I sent a fix for that problem? Basically, you have to make sure
that you quit any application that could do an internet access. Then, enter
your user ID and password in Authoxy. Quit System Preferences. Relaunch
Authoxy. Make sure you user ID and password did stick. If not, enter again.
Quit System Preferences. Launch Authoxy again. Once your user ID and
password are there when you open Authoxy, go back in your preferences. Find
the Authoxy preference file. Lock the file in the Finder. Open Authoxy again
to do a last check. If your user ID and password look fine, you should be
OK.

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fat electrons n.: Old-time hacker David Cargill's theory on the causation of
computer glitches. Your typical electric utility draws its line current out
of the big generators with a pair of coil taps located near the top of the
dynamo. When the normal tap brushes get dirty, they take them off line to
clean them up, and use special auxiliary taps on the bottom of the coil.
Now, this is a problem, because when they do that they get not ordinary or
`thin' electrons, but the fat'n'sloppy electrons that are heavier and so
settle to the bottom of the generator. These flow down ordinary wires just
fine, but when they have to turn a sharp corner (as in an integrated-circuit
via), they're apt to get stuck. This is what causes computer glitches.

Re: [discuss] Authoxy v2.0 and Panther

[Fleur Harrison]

Hi Simon. I'm having exactly the same problem with the password/username resetting. Very frustrating as before I installed Panther, Authoxy was working fine. I have also run into probs with the Stop/Start button not working. 

Heath - any idea when these probs might be fixed? (Not to put any pressure on you!)

Thanks,
Fleur

On 11/11/2003, at 12:12 PM, Simon Plint wrote:

Authoxites,

Anyone having problems with v2 and Panther.

I am finding that the username and password keep resetting back to their default values. Also, at times, the Start/Stop button does not seem to work. Just now I tried to start Authoxy with the Start/Stop button without any response from the Authoxy preference pane. Then I ran the Start Authoxy app and Authoxy is running but still the pref panes does not indicate this.

Have those darstedly engineers at Apple done something to trip up Authoxy?

Thanks,
Simon.

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Re: [discuss] Authoxy and automatic proxy

[Alexander W. Kohr]

well i got different results this time but it still did not work correctly
This time i didn't get the files that downloaded however the pages weren't correctly proxied either. I got the pages as if i didn't go though the proxy as it wanted a username and password when trying to view the magazines text instead of claiming that "Access courtesy of Fox Chase Cancer Center" 




On Tuesday, November 11, 2003, at 06:39  AM, Heath Raftery wrote:

On Tuesday, November 11, 2003, at 01:02  AM, Alexander W. Kohr wrote:

it was only tyring different ports with the non auto and i was trying that even though i knew it wasn't the right thing to do for out situation to see if i recieved different results.
Are you asking me to change port that my computer uses in it's network settings to be port 80 along with the port that authroxy uses for it's local host?

No, the local port business is unimportant here. Leave the System Preferences->Network->Proxy setting at 127.0.0.1, port 8080. Leave Authoxy's local port at 8080, but only fill in the Automatic Configuration section. You will notice that there is no setting for a remote port in this configuration.

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Re: [discuss] Authoxy and automatic proxy

[Heath Raftery]

On Tuesday, November 11, 2003, at 01:02  AM, Alexander W. Kohr wrote:

it was only tyring different ports with the non auto and i was trying 
that even though i knew it wasn't the right thing to do for out 
situation to see if i recieved different results.
Are you asking me to change port that my computer uses in it's network 
settings to be port 80 along with the port that authroxy uses for it's 
local host?
No, the local port business is unimportant here. Leave the System 
Preferences->Network->Proxy setting at 127.0.0.1, port 8080. Leave 
Authoxy's local port at 8080, but only fill in the Automatic 
Configuration section. You will notice that there is no setting for a 
remote port in this configuration.

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[discuss] Authoxy v2.0 and Panther

[Simon Plint]

Authoxites,

Anyone having problems with v2 and Panther.

I am finding that the username and password keep resetting back to their default values. Also, at times, the Start/Stop button does not seem to work. Just now I tried to start Authoxy with the Start/Stop button without any response from the Authoxy preference pane. Then I ran the Start Authoxy app and Authoxy is running but still the pref panes does not indicate this.

Have those darstedly engineers at Apple done something to trip up Authoxy?

Thanks,
Simon.

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MacTalk - Newcastle & Hunter Macintosh Users Group
mac.thanks.com.au

Re: [discuss] Authoxy and automatic proxy

[Alexander W. Kohr]

it was only tyring different ports with the non auto and i was trying 
that even though i knew it wasn't the right thing to do for out 
situation to see if i recieved different results.
Are you asking me to change port that my computer uses in it's network 
settings to be port 80 along with the port that authroxy uses for it's 
local host?
On Monday, November 10, 2003, at 04:05  AM, Heath Raftery wrote:

On Friday, November 7, 2003, at 02:04  AM, Alexander W. Kohr wrote:
Heath wrote:
My suggestion is to use the proxy address you have been supplying as 
the PAC file address. Safari does not have built in support for PAC 
files, so try using the PAC option in Authoxy. Your Network 
preferences' Proxy setting will then point to 127.0.0.1 port 8080 
(or whatever you choose).

What happens then? By that I mean, what exactly do you see? Error 
messages, entries in the messages tab window, browser status 
messages, browser action?

That is what it first tired Use this automatic configuration file of 
http://proxy.fccc.edu using port 8080.
it then lets me load pages that are not supposed to be proxied but it 
gives me the file i sent in the previous message as a download.
No errors.
Try port 80. In fact, where are you specifying a port? There should be 
not be a port specification for an automatic configuration file, since 
it is downloaded over http (port 80). It is hard to be sure of course, 
but it still sounds like something (your browser I imagine) is 
treating http://proxy.fccc.edu as your proxy server. It should be 
treating it as a URL to download the PAC file from.

HTH,
Heath


Alexander Kohr
Macintosh Specialist
Fox Chase Cancer Center
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [discuss] Authoxy and automatic proxy

[Heath Raftery]

On Friday, November 7, 2003, at 02:04  AM, Alexander W. Kohr wrote:
Heath wrote:
My suggestion is to use the proxy address you have been supplying as 
the PAC file address. Safari does not have built in support for PAC 
files, so try using the PAC option in Authoxy. Your Network 
preferences' Proxy setting will then point to 127.0.0.1 port 8080 (or 
whatever you choose).

What happens then? By that I mean, what exactly do you see? Error 
messages, entries in the messages tab window, browser status 
messages, browser action?

That is what it first tired Use this automatic configuration file of 
http://proxy.fccc.edu using port 8080.
it then lets me load pages that are not supposed to be proxied but it 
gives me the file i sent in the previous message as a download.
No errors.
Try port 80. In fact, where are you specifying a port? There should be 
not be a port specification for an automatic configuration file, since 
it is downloaded over http (port 80). It is hard to be sure of course, 
but it still sounds like something (your browser I imagine) is treating 
http://proxy.fccc.edu as your proxy server. It should be treating it as 
a URL to download the PAC file from.

HTH,
Heath

Re: [discuss] Authoxy and automatic proxy

[Alexander W. Kohr]

G'day Alexander,

On Thursday, November 6, 2003, at 05:25  AM, Alexander W. Kohr wrote:
Okay i am having problems getting it to work. we are using an 
automatic proxy server.

the proxy server owner tells me it is based on squid and that the 
entire path to the pac file is http://ourproxiesrealname.fccc.edu and 
that we do not need to put in anymore to get to the auto 
configuration file.
That looks odd. But... I've just had a bit of a look, and I'd say it 
is okay. When I attempt to access http://proxy.fccc.edu I get a 
properly formatted pac file. Maybe a slightly strange way of doing 
things, but it shouldn't cause any problems that I know of.

I know i have the mac set up correctly for proxies in the network 
settings as i can access http for sites that the proxy server should 
not touch but
when i try to access servers that the proxy server are supposed to 
intercept and reroute safari starts downloading things like
What you pasted here is actually the pac file! My guess here would be 
that you are specifying the pac address (which, as above, actually 
looks like a proxy address) as a proxy address. Your browser is 
attempting to relay your request through the proxy address, but that 
only returns the PAC file.
That is what comes back from the proxy server netscape 7 doesn't do it 
yet it has internal automatic proxy configuration support.

Looking again at your first sentence above, I'm confused as to what 
you mean by "automatic proxy server". In my words, I would say you 
either have a proxy server, or an automatic proxy configuration file. 
You can't interchange the two.

Any suggestions.
Okay so i am not realy big on the proxy lingo. Yes it would seem that 
the server uses a automatic proxy configuration file.

My suggestion is to use the proxy address you have been supplying as 
the PAC file address. Safari does not have built in support for PAC 
files, so try using the PAC option in Authoxy. Your Network 
preferences' Proxy setting will then point to 127.0.0.1 port 8080 (or 
whatever you choose).

What happens then? By that I mean, what exactly do you see? Error 
messages, entries in the messages tab window, browser status messages, 
browser action?

That is what it first tired Use this automatic configuration file of 
http://proxy.fccc.edu using port 8080.
it then lets me load pages that are not supposed to be proxied but it 
gives me the file i sent in the previous message as a download.
No errors.


Regards,
Heath
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Macintosh Specialist
Fox Chase Cancer Center
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [discuss] Authoxy and automatic proxy

[Heath Raftery]

G'day Alexander,

On Thursday, November 6, 2003, at 05:25  AM, Alexander W. Kohr wrote:
Okay i am having problems getting it to work. we are using an 
automatic proxy server.

the proxy server owner tells me it is based on squid and that the 
entire path to the pac file is http://ourproxiesrealname.fccc.edu and 
that we do not need to put in anymore to get to the auto configuration 
file.
That looks odd. But... I've just had a bit of a look, and I'd say it is 
okay. When I attempt to access http://proxy.fccc.edu I get a properly 
formatted pac file. Maybe a slightly strange way of doing things, but 
it shouldn't cause any problems that I know of.

I know i have the mac set up correctly for proxies in the network 
settings as i can access http for sites that the proxy server should 
not touch but
when i try to access servers that the proxy server are supposed to 
intercept and reroute safari starts downloading things like
What you pasted here is actually the pac file! My guess here would be 
that you are specifying the pac address (which, as above, actually 
looks like a proxy address) as a proxy address. Your browser is 
attempting to relay your request through the proxy address, but that 
only returns the PAC file.

Looking again at your first sentence above, I'm confused as to what you 
mean by "automatic proxy server". In my words, I would say you either 
have a proxy server, or an automatic proxy configuration file. You 
can't interchange the two.

Any suggestions.
My suggestion is to use the proxy address you have been supplying as 
the PAC file address. Safari does not have built in support for PAC 
files, so try using the PAC option in Authoxy. Your Network 
preferences' Proxy setting will then point to 127.0.0.1 port 8080 (or 
whatever you choose).

What happens then? By that I mean, what exactly do you see? Error 
messages, entries in the messages tab window, browser status messages, 
browser action?

Regards,
Heath
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[discuss] Authoxy and automatic proxy

[Alexander W. Kohr]

Okay i am having problems getting it to work. we are using an automatic 
proxy server.

the proxy server owner tells me it is based on squid and that the 
entire path to the pac file is http://ourproxiesrealname.fccc.edu and 
that we do not need to put in anymore to get to the auto configuration 
file.  (he is also not the guy who set it up and doesn't really know 
that much about it but he is in charge of it and the guy who set it up 
is long gone. You can tell me his is wrong if it is the situation. I 
won't mind his pride might be a little hurt but that is his problem not 
yours.)

I know i have the mac set up correctly for proxies in the network 
settings as i can access http for sites that the proxy server should 
not touch but
when i try to access servers that the proxy server are supposed to 
intercept and reroute safari starts downloading things like

function FindProxyForURL (url, host){
if (
// cancercell.org
shExpMatch(url, "http://cancercell.org/*";) ||
shExpMatch(url, "http://*.cancercell.org/*";) ||
// cell.com
shExpMatch(url, "http://cell.com/*";) ||
shExpMatch(url, "http://*.cell.com/*";) ||
// current-biology.com
shExpMatch(url, "http://current-biology.com/*";) ||
shExpMatch(url, "http://*.current-biology.com/*";) ||
...
...
...
// ulrichsweb.com
shExpMatch(url, "http://ulrichsweb.com/*";) ||
shExpMatch(url, "http://*.ulrichsweb.com/*";)
   )
return "PROXY ourproxiesrealname.fccc.edu:3110; DIRECT;";
else
return "DIRECT;";
}
Any suggestions.

Re: [discuss] Authoxy authentication details: problem with System Preferences?

[Heath Raftery]

Hi Fleur,

On Wednesday, November 5, 2003, at 04:17  PM, Fleur Harrison wrote:
It seems that Apple have added a new tickable option to the "Proxies" 
section of the Network pane, which asks whether a certain proxy needs 
authentication.

I am assuming that this is Authoxy's job, and that this isn't needed. 
However when I try to untick this box, System Preferences 
"unexpectedly quits". It has happened literally dozens of times.
That's right. In Panther, Apple have introduced built in proxy 
authentication just as Authoxy provided. The differences... Authoxy 
supports PAC files (more on that later), Authoxy provides logging, and 
lastly, I'll try to answer questions fairly quickly (and I have a great 
Discuss team to back me up ;) ). Apart from that, it is personal 
preference (or specific experience, which I'd be interested to hear) as 
to which you find works best.

In any case, I very much doubt that Apple's new proxy preference and 
Authoxy are clashing. It is quite unlikely that they are aware of each 
others presence. I hope to have some proof of that soon.

I think this is also linked to the fact that Authoxy won't save my 
username and password. It will save any other preference I enter, like 
the actual name of the proxy, but the username is reset to "noone" 
every time I open the Authoxy pane.
Ah, now I imagine that might be a different issue. You are the third 
(not counting Laurent and colleague) person to report the symptom. I 
have some further investigation to do on Panther!

Everything seems to be working OK, however. I have fiddled around with 
things for the last hour or so but haven't been able to fix the 
"problem". Maybe it isn't a problem at all, and I'd really appreciate 
it if you could let me know if that is the case, but it doesn't seem 
right to me and I'm curious as to whether there is/will be a fix.
I'll be fixing the "noone" issue very shortly (provided I can find the 
problem, which I am fairly confident of), and will try to release it as 
soon as possible. As to System Preferences quitting, well I can't 
really comment on that. I'll investigate it, but chances are that I 
can't do much about it. Thank you to Laurent for your suggestions - 
they sound very good indeed.

PS On a completely unrelated note: what exactly are .pac files?
Proxy Automatic Configuration. They are files with a javascript 
function inside, which returns what proxy to use (or not to use one) 
based on the URL requested. They allow administrators to set up one PAC 
file, which will direct users' browsers to the correct proxy without 
configuring each client. To the user, they only have to provide the 
address of the PAC file, and their proxy settings are essentially set.

HTH,
Heath
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Re: [discuss] Authoxy authentication details: problem with System Preferences?

[Laurent Daudelin]

on 11/5/03 12:17 AM, Fleur Harrison at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi Heath and others.
> 
> I've come across an interesting problem that I thought you may be able
> to help me with. Until a week and a half ago I was running Authoxy 1.2
> under Mac OS 10.1.5, and it was working brilliantly, no problems
> whatsoever. However, I then installed Panther, and have had a problem
> with System Prefs which (I think) is related to Authoxy. It was
> happening while I was still running Authoxy 1.2, as well as Authoxy 2,
> which I installed today.
> 
> It seems that Apple have added a new tickable option to the "Proxies"
> section of the Network pane, which asks whether a certain proxy needs
> authentication.
> 
> I am assuming that this is Authoxy's job, and that this isn't needed.
> However when I try to untick this box, System Preferences "unexpectedly
> quits". It has happened literally dozens of times.
> 
> I think this is also linked to the fact that Authoxy won't save my
> username and password. It will save any other preference I enter, like
> the actual name of the proxy, but the username is reset to "noone"
> every time I open the Authoxy pane.
> 
> Everything seems to be working OK, however. I have fiddled around with
> things for the last hour or so but haven't been able to fix the
> "problem". Maybe it isn't a problem at all, and I'd really appreciate
> it if you could let me know if that is the case, but it doesn't seem
> right to me and I'm curious as to whether there is/will be a fix.
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help,
> Fleur
> 
> PS On a completely unrelated note: what exactly are .pac files?
> 

I had this problem and another guy working with had it too. Apparently, this
user ID and password is stored in the keychain. When you uncheck the
checkbox, System Preferences tries (apparently) to delete the entry in the
Keychain but fails for some reason and then just crashes. If you go in the
Keychain Access application, you should be able to retrieve that entry.
You'll see the IP address of the proxy server followed by the user ID. You
can delete the entry.

The funny part is that I did file a bug with Apple because this was
happening with a pre-release version, but was also happening with the final
golden master. Apple emailed me shortly after they released 7B85 (or the
final version of Panther) to report that they were not able to reproduce the
problem. I then tried to turn on the proxy user ID and password, but no
matter how I tried, I could not reproduce the problem either. But I'm sure
that before I manually deleted that entry from the keychain, it was
crashing. So, I'm not sure what's going on, but you can try to delete the
entry from the keychain.

-Laurent.
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response to lusers who complain that a program didn't "do the right thing"
when given imperfect input or otherwise mistreated in some way. Also
commonly used to describe failures in human decision making due to faulty,
incomplete, or imprecise data. 2. `Garbage In, Gospel Out': this more recent
expansion is a sardonic comment on the tendency human beings have to put
excessive trust in `computerized' data.

[discuss] Authoxy authentication details: problem with System Preferences?

[Fleur Harrison]

Hi Heath and others.

I've come across an interesting problem that I thought you may be able 
to help me with. Until a week and a half ago I was running Authoxy 1.2 
under Mac OS 10.1.5, and it was working brilliantly, no problems 
whatsoever. However, I then installed Panther, and have had a problem 
with System Prefs which (I think) is related to Authoxy. It was 
happening while I was still running Authoxy 1.2, as well as Authoxy 2, 
which I installed today.

It seems that Apple have added a new tickable option to the "Proxies" 
section of the Network pane, which asks whether a certain proxy needs 
authentication.

I am assuming that this is Authoxy's job, and that this isn't needed. 
However when I try to untick this box, System Preferences "unexpectedly 
quits". It has happened literally dozens of times.

I think this is also linked to the fact that Authoxy won't save my 
username and password. It will save any other preference I enter, like 
the actual name of the proxy, but the username is reset to "noone" 
every time I open the Authoxy pane.

Everything seems to be working OK, however. I have fiddled around with 
things for the last hour or so but haven't been able to fix the 
"problem". Maybe it isn't a problem at all, and I'd really appreciate 
it if you could let me know if that is the case, but it doesn't seem 
right to me and I'm curious as to whether there is/will be a fix.

Thanks in advance for your help,
Fleur
PS On a completely unrelated note: what exactly are .pac files?