Hello Luis,
On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 00:47:55 +0200
Luis Gutiérrez de Cabiedes lgcabie...@ono.com wrote:
El 22/06/11 11:42, Tom Davies escribió:
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Dear Tom. You seem to be one of the headers of this group. I'm triyng to
unsuscribe with the links above, but it's imposible. Have you any good
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Sent: Wed, 22 June, 2011 9:57:50
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides
Hi
When checking the PDF version of the Calc guide I found it hard, compared to
html to move around the document. I would like to propose that an HTML version
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Sent: Sat, 25 June, 2011 6:55:33
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides
Andrew
On Sat, 2011-06-25 at 01:27 -0400, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
On 06/23/2011 10:13 AM, Marc Paré wrote:
We are essentially saying the same thing
-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides
On 06/23/2011 02:15 PM, planas wrote:
You are missing the point - I do not need Acrobat to generate a pdf
file. You can do it easily in LO. The pdf will open in Reader with no
problems.
LO has some bugs in this regard. Last couple of PDFA-1a that I
On 06/25/2011 01:55 AM, planas wrote:
Andrew
I may be wrong, but I believe MSO 2010 and 2007? are able to open ODF files
except for possibly Base
I had heard (meaning way back when ever) that MS would support ODF
before they supported their own proposed standard. I was reading ODF
:)
From: Andrew Douglas Pitonyakand...@pitonyak.org
To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sat, 25 June, 2011 6:31:21
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides
On 06/23/2011 02:15 PM, planas wrote:
You are missing the point - I do not need Acrobat
20:38:41
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides
Thanks for the link. Very adept at filing OOo bug reports, never opened one
against LO.
I only recently installed LO, and that was to test if they had integrated a bug
fix that seriously affects me in OOo (it is fixed
On 06/23/2011 10:13 AM, Marc Paré wrote:
We are essentially saying the same thing. For necessary files where
the ODF cannot be read due to the inability of having LibreOffice
installed to read ODF files then falling back on .pdf's is fine. If
there is a need to create a quick and dirty ODF
Andrew
On Sat, 2011-06-25 at 01:27 -0400, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
On 06/23/2011 10:13 AM, Marc Paré wrote:
We are essentially saying the same thing. For necessary files where
the ODF cannot be read due to the inability of having LibreOffice
installed to read ODF files then
Hi,
My 2 cents would be that the best format for guides is .odt, plus a
publication of the user-ready version in PDF.
I don't think an HTML version would really be a useful idea.
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David Nelson
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Le 2011-06-23 02:30, David Nelson a écrit :
Hi,
My 2 cents would be that the best format for guides is .odt, plus a
publication of the user-ready version in PDF.
I don't think an HTML version would really be a useful idea.
--
David Nelson
I will chime in as well. I would rather see the ODF
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 18:27, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote:
Le 2011-06-23 02:30, David Nelson a écrit :
Hi,
My 2 cents would be that the best format for guides is .odt, plus a
publication of the user-ready version in PDF.
I don't think an HTML version would really be a useful idea.
Hi,
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
Marc, please see my earlier note about the importance and necessity of
providing PDFs.
Yeah, I'd agree with Jean about it being important to provide PDFs.
Past discussions on this list led to a consensus that ODF's .odt
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Sent: Thu, 23 June, 2011 9:27:00
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides
Le 2011-06-23 02:30, David Nelson a écrit :
Hi,
My 2 cents would be that the best format for guides is .odt, plus a
publication of the user-ready version
Le 2011-06-23 04:35, Jean Weber a écrit :
I will chime in as well. I would rather see the ODF versions first and the
.pdf only if needed. We are, after all, telling people that we have the best
office suite on earth, so let's prove it! It does work!. I would even go as
far as not publishing any
-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides
Le 2011-06-23 04:35, Jean Weber a écrit :
I will chime in as well. I would rather see the ODF versions first and the
.pdf only if needed. We are, after all, telling people that we have the best
office suite on earth, so let's prove it! It does work!. I would
On Thursday, 23. June 2011 16:13:56 Marc Paré wrote:
We are essentially saying the same thing. For necessary files where
the ODF cannot be read due to the inability of having LibreOffice
installed to read ODF files then falling back on .pdf's is fine.
PDF has a different purpose: to show a
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 16:55, Nino Novak nn.l...@kflog.org wrote:
So my statement would be:
Stay with ODF as master (as long as there is not a more conveniant
solution) and try to offer PDF /and/ HTML in addition. Ideally, the PDF
and HTML conversion should be done as automatically as
On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 04:27 -0400, Marc Paré wrote:
Le 2011-06-23 02:30, David Nelson a écrit :
Hi,
My 2 cents would be that the best format for guides is .odt, plus a
publication of the user-ready version in PDF.
I don't think an HTML version would really be a useful idea.
--
From: planas jsloz...@gmail.com
To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 23 June, 2011 16:16:48
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides
On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 04:27 -0400, Marc Paré wrote:
Le 2011-06-23 02:30, David
Tom :)
From: Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com
To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 23 June, 2011 9:27:00
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides
Le 2011-06-23 02:30, David Nelson a écrit :
Hi,
My 2
Hi
On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 17:09 +0200, C wrote:
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 16:55, Nino Novak nn.l...@kflog.org wrote:
So my statement would be:
Stay with ODF as master (as long as there is not a more conveniant
solution) and try to offer PDF /and/ HTML in addition. Ideally, the PDF
and HTML
from
Tom :)
From: Marc Parém...@marcpare.com
To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 23 June, 2011 9:27:00
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides
Le 2011-06-23 02:30, David Nelson a écrit :
Hi,
My 2 cents would
Hi Gary,
On Thursday, 23. June 2011 18:35:27 Gary Schnabl wrote:
Therefore, I suggest that every OOo/LO PDF file be so converted by
Adobe Acrobat Professional afterward, prior to release so that
OOo/LO users will have that extra functionality.
What purpose do you want this functionality for?
On 6/23/2011 12:44 PM, Nino Novak wrote:
Hi Gary,
On Thursday, 23. June 2011 18:35:27 Gary Schnabl wrote:
Therefore, I suggest that every OOo/LO PDF file be so converted by
Adobe Acrobat Professional afterward, prior to release so that
OOo/LO users will have that extra functionality.
What
gschn...@swdetroit.com
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Sent: Thu, 23 June, 2011 17:53:12
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides
On 6/23/2011 12:44 PM, Nino Novak wrote:
Hi Gary,
On Thursday, 23. June 2011 18:35:27 Gary Schnabl wrote:
Therefore, I
On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 19:04 +0200, C wrote:
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 18:53, Gary Schnabl gschn...@swdetroit.com wrote:
Therefore, I suggest that every OOo/LO PDF file be so converted by
Adobe Acrobat Professional afterward, prior to release so that
OOo/LO users will have that extra
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 19:15, Gary Schnabl gschn...@swdetroit.com wrote:
It may be a nice-to-have feature, but due to cost and OS restrictions,
it will probably remain a nice-to-have.
It costs the users absolutely NOTHING, I repeat NOTHING, as long as any
version of Adobe Reader that was
On 6/23/2011 1:25 PM, planas wrote:
On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 19:04 +0200, C wrote:
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 18:53, Gary Schnablgschn...@swdetroit.com wrote:
Therefore, I suggest that every OOo/LO PDF file be so converted by
Adobe Acrobat Professional afterward, prior to release so that
OOo/LO
On Thursday, 23. June 2011 18:53:12 Gary Schnabl wrote:
On 6/23/2011 12:44 PM, Nino Novak wrote:
Hi Gary,
On Thursday, 23. June 2011 18:35:27 Gary Schnabl wrote:
Therefore, I suggest that every OOo/LO PDF file be so converted by
Adobe Acrobat Professional afterward, prior to release so
On 6/23/2011 1:31 PM, C wrote:
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 19:15, Gary Schnablgschn...@swdetroit.com wrote:
It may be a nice-to-have feature, but due to cost and OS restrictions,
it will probably remain a nice-to-have.
It costs the users absolutely NOTHING, I repeat NOTHING, as long as any
On 6/23/2011 1:44 PM, Nino Novak wrote:
On Thursday, 23. June 2011 18:53:12 Gary Schnabl wrote:
On 6/23/2011 12:44 PM, Nino Novak wrote:
Hi Gary,
On Thursday, 23. June 2011 18:35:27 Gary Schnabl wrote:
Therefore, I suggest that every OOo/LO PDF file be so converted by
Adobe Acrobat
On 6/23/2011 2:15 PM, planas wrote:
Gary
On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 13:43 -0400, Gary Schnabl wrote:
On 6/23/2011 1:25 PM, planas wrote:
On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 19:04 +0200, C wrote:
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 18:53, Gary Schnablgschn...@swdetroit.com wrote:
Therefore, I suggest that every OOo/LO
Gary
On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 13:43 -0400, Gary Schnabl wrote:
On 6/23/2011 1:25 PM, planas wrote:
On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 19:04 +0200, C wrote:
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 18:53, Gary Schnablgschn...@swdetroit.com wrote:
Therefore, I suggest that every OOo/LO PDF file be so converted by
On 6/23/2011 1:44 PM, Nino Novak wrote:
On Thursday, 23. June 2011 18:53:12 Gary Schnabl wrote:
On 6/23/2011 12:44 PM, Nino Novak wrote:
Hi Gary,
On Thursday, 23. June 2011 18:35:27 Gary Schnabl wrote:
Therefore, I suggest that every OOo/LO PDF file be so converted by
Adobe Acrobat
On Thursday, 23. June 2011 19:50:49 Gary Schnabl wrote:
On 6/23/2011 1:44 PM, Nino Novak wrote:
On Thursday, 23. June 2011 18:53:12 Gary Schnabl wrote:
On 6/23/2011 12:44 PM, Nino Novak wrote:
Hi Gary,
On Thursday, 23. June 2011 18:35:27 Gary Schnabl wrote:
Therefore, I suggest that
Hi,
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:31 PM, planas jsloz...@gmail.com wrote:
Most places that have any kind of leaflet, posters or documentation to
download
want to have some control over the way it looks. Sadly there is not an
adequate
Open Document Format so people use PDF. Since PDF is so
On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 14:18 -0400, Gary Schnabl wrote:
Having the Review and Comment functionality on a PDF (to be done with
Adobe Reader) must be first imparted by Acrobat Pro to that file. Trust
me...
Gary is correct on this point.
As for doing that, Gary states elsewhere that it's a
On Thursday, 23. June 2011 20:29:38 Gary Schnabl wrote:
On 6/23/2011 1:44 PM, Nino Novak wrote:
On Thursday, 23. June 2011 18:53:12 Gary Schnabl wrote:
On 6/23/2011 12:44 PM, Nino Novak wrote:
Hi Gary,
On Thursday, 23. June 2011 18:35:27 Gary Schnabl wrote:
Therefore, I suggest that
On 6/23/2011 5:08 PM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 14:18 -0400, Gary Schnabl wrote:
Having the Review and Comment functionality on a PDF (to be done with
Adobe Reader) must be first imparted by Acrobat Pro to that file. Trust
me...
Gary is correct on this point.
As for
[applauds]
From: John Cleland j...@john-cleland.co.uk
To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Fri, 24 June, 2011 0:30:23
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides
Hi
I used LibO 3.3 to produce a PDF file on windows 7
It's pretty after midnight local time here, so a last answer for
today...
On Friday, 24. June 2011 01:00:38 Gary Schnabl wrote:
On 6/23/2011 5:16 PM, Nino Novak wrote:
... [Offering enhanced PDF Manuals]
So finally, why don't you just do it yourself?
Duh! I did that--while I was
and comments definitely save. It maybe that this is
possible already without Acrobat Pro.
Regards
John
-Original Message- From: Jean Hollis Weber
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 10:08 PM
To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions
definitely save. It maybe that this is possible
already without Acrobat Pro.
Regards
John
-Original Message-
From: Jean Hollis Weber
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 10:08 PM
To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides
On Wed, 2011-06-22, Gary Schnabl wrote about DocBook.
My view, which I have expressed on several occasions: Using DocBook
files (or anything other than ODT files) as source documents for our
user guides would be counter-productive, for two main reasons:
(1) It would exclude the vast majority of
On Wed, 2011-06-22, Gary Schnabl wrote about DocBook.
My view, which I have expressed on several occasions: Using DocBook
files (or anything other than ODT files) as source documents for our
user guides would be counter-productive, for two main reasons:
(1) It would exclude the vast majority of
On Wednesday, 22. June 2011 09:15:52 Gary Schnabl wrote:
A DTD (say, a DocBook 4.5 DTD--the last normative version, 03 Oct
2006) only deals with document structure--not formatting a document.
So, you would have to employ something else for formatting purposes,
much like CSS formats XHTML
On Wed, 2011-06-22, Gary Schnabl wrote:
I wrote about a DocBook DTD file in response to Nino's bringing it up,
but nowhere in this thread did I advocate using it . A careful read of
my post would lead one to believe that I was discouraging the use of it.
So, you needed to address the
On Wednesday, 22. June 2011 09:15:52 Gary Schnabl wrote:
A DTD (say, a DocBook 4.5 DTD--the last normative version, 03 Oct
2006) only deals with document structure--not formatting a document.
So, you would have to employ something else for formatting purposes,
much like CSS formats XHTML code.
Hi
When checking the PDF version of the Calc guide I found it hard, compared to
html to move around the document. I would like to propose that an HTML version
is produced. I would be happy to undertake the work.
I am not sure what open source html producers/editors are available, but will
On 6/22/2011 5:42 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
It is interesting to hear about free stuff from MS. One always wonders what
tricks, caveats, lock-ins and what traps are being sprung.
Regards from
Tom :)
Use a little of this, a little of that... I am not a wide-eyed zealot,
forcing myself to
Hi
When checking the PDF version of the Calc guide I found it hard, compared to
html to move around the document. I would like to propose that an HTML version
is produced. I would be happy to undertake the work.
I am not sure what open source html producers/editors are available, but will
John,
On Tue, 2011-06-21 at 21:49 +0100, John Cleland wrote:
Hi
When checking the PDF version of the Calc guide I found it hard, compared to
html to move around the document. I would like to propose that an HTML
version is produced. I would be happy to undertake the work.
I am not
On Tue, 2011-06-21 at 21:49 +0100, John Cleland wrote:
When checking the PDF version of the Calc guide I found it hard, compared to
html to move around the document. I would like to propose that an HTML
version is produced. I would be happy to undertake the work.
I am not sure what open
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides
Hi Jean
-Original Message- From: Jean Hollis Weber
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 10:21 PM
To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides
On Tue, 2011-06-21
On 6/21/2011 6:32 PM, John Cleland wrote:
Hi Jean
-Original Message- From: Jean Hollis Weber
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 10:21 PM
To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides
On Tue, 2011-06-21 at 21:49 +0100, John
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