RE: UL P.A.G.

2001-05-17 Thread Mel Pedersen
I have found some use for the PAG's - I have a subscription the the on-line PAG's. A few of them I have found usefull, most of them I have taken the time to look up have shed no more light than reading the standard itself. I have gotten my monies worth out of the few that have been usefull, but

RE: Product Marking

2001-01-24 Thread Mel Pedersen
Joe: I believe you are correct. Check the following URL http://www.osha-slc.gov/dts/otpca/nrtl/nrtlmrk.html, and you will find the following: ...OSHA accepts only those products that contain the NRTL's mark and that the NRTL has certified within its scope of recognition, which includes the

RE: safe voltage limits for cattle ( cows horses etc)

2000-11-10 Thread Mel Pedersen
Make life easy...just set the current high enouph to cook the cow. Label on fence could read ...Quick Delivery to Restaraunt Recommended... - Mel -Original Message- From: David Gelfand [mailto:gelf...@memotec.com] Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 2:24 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org

RE: Got another beef about an NRTL (haven't we all?)

2000-10-25 Thread Mel Pedersen
little reason for suspicion. Just my humble thoughts on the matter. Regards, Mel Pedersen -Original Message- From: Grant, Tania (Tania) [mailto:tgr...@lucent.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 1:07 PM To: 'Loop, Robert' Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Got another beef

RE: Suitability of X2 Capacitors as Basic Insulation

2000-10-05 Thread Mel Pedersen
Hello Peter: According to IEC 384-14, the capacitor types suitable to bridge BASIC INSULATION are Y2, Y3, or Y4 capacitors. According to the voltages you specify, a Y4 cap would be suitable. The thing to keep in mind here is clause 1.5.3 of IEC 384-14, which defined an X capacitor as: A

RE: UL Recognized 24VDC PC Supply

2000-07-25 Thread Mel Pedersen
are: Diversified Technical Services 1400 Distributors Row Harahan LA 70123 Sola/Hevi-Duty Unit of General Signal 1101 S Wells Street Lake Geneva W1 53147 Vicor Corp 25 Frontage Road Andover MA 01810 Hope this helps, Mel Pedersen Homolgations Engineer Ph: (605) 882-8535 mailto:mpeder...@midcom

RE: Implanted IC in brain

2000-07-13 Thread Mel Pedersen
Hello: I believe we should consider what precedents the Medical Equipment community has laid out hereat least as a startIEC 60601, FDA regs, etc these address safety concerns for implanted. Just my humble thoughts on the matter. - Mel -Original Message- From: Barry Ma

RE: TNV-2 to SELV Spacing

2000-06-16 Thread Mel Pedersen
not be acceptable in all countries... Also, I do not know that anyone (CB's at least) is testing to IEC 60950 yet? Let me know if I'm wrong on this.. Regards, Mel Pedersen, Midcom Inc. mailto:mpeder...@midcom-inc.com -Original Message- From: helmut.hi...@alcatel.de [mailto:helmut.hi...@alcatel.de

RE: Certification of Products and other emerging countries

2000-03-27 Thread Mel Pedersen
interpretations...then you have an NRTL refusing its own mark! Mel Pedersen Midcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer Phone: (605) 882-8535 mpeder...@midcom-inc.com Fax: (605) 882-8633 -Original Message- From: Scott Douglas [mailto:s_doug...@ecrm.com] Sent: Monday

RE: Certification School

2000-03-09 Thread Mel Pedersen
UL does have a UL1950 seminar: I took it a few years ago, and thought they did a very good job. - Mel -Original Message- From: Dick Grobner [mailto:dick.grob...@medgraph.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 11:16 AM To: 'Compliance' Cc: 'emc-p...@ieee.org' Subject: RE: Certification

RE: HDSL

2000-01-27 Thread Mel Pedersen
Not if your running ±130VDC on Tip/Ring...but of course, this would be something other than POTS. Mel Pedersen Midcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer Phone: (605) 882-8535 mpeder...@midcom-inc.com Fax: (605) 882-8633 -Original Message- From

RE: HDSL

2000-01-26 Thread Mel Pedersen
: Limited Current (RFT-C), Limited Voltage/Restricted Access (RFT-V). Hope this helps...I do not know the current status of HDSL with the FCC. Mel Pedersen Midcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer Phone: (605) 882-8535 mpeder...@midcom-inc.com Fax: (605) 882-8633

RE: Lead Banned in Europe Japan? What abt MTBE?

2000-01-19 Thread Mel Pedersen
I saw this one also. It seems to me the oil companies can use something much less toxic as a gasoline oxygenate, such as Ethanol. Ethanol is very common in my part of the country...perhaps they don't want thier profits being cut into by the ag industry? Mel Pedersen

RE: Lead Banned in Europe Japan?

2000-01-19 Thread Mel Pedersen
of hazardous materials so that they can be properly disposed of...I believe most in industry are. But... Any comments? Thanks! Mel Pedersen Midcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer Phone: (605) 882-8535 mpeder...@midcom-inc.com Fax: (605) 882-8633 -Original

RE: LVD voltage range.

2000-01-13 Thread Mel Pedersen
believe has a point here. Just my humble observations. Mel Pedersen Midcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer Phone: (605) 882-8535 mpeder...@midcom-inc.com Fax: (605) 882-8633 Mel Pedersen Midcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer Phone

RE: transient suppression

2000-01-12 Thread Mel Pedersen
Is this online? - Mel -Original Message- From: wo...@sensormatic.com [mailto:wo...@sensormatic.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 1:24 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: transient suppression World Products, a supplier of MOVs, has a very good, free presentation on

RE: Modem FCC type approval

1999-11-04 Thread Mel Pedersen
component. Mel PedersenMidcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer Phone: (605) 882-8535 mailto:mpeder...@midcom-inc.com Fax: (605) 882-8633 -Original Message- From: Terry Meck [mailto:tjm...@accusort.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999

RE: Comparative Tracking Index

1999-10-14 Thread Mel Pedersen
these things into words is sometimes a challenge for me. Mel Pedersen Midcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer  Phone:  (605) 882-8535 mpeder...@midcom-inc.com  Fax:  (605) 882-8633 -Original Message- From: John Juhasz [mailto:jjuh...@fiberoptions.com

RE: Re: EN 60 950 and Denmark

1999-09-28 Thread Mel Pedersen
with various National Deviations on many issues. Mel PedersenMidcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer Phone: (605) 882-8535 mailto:mpeder...@midcom-inc.com Fax: (605) 882-8633 -Original Message- From: b...@anritsu.com [mailto:b...@anritsu.com

RE: RELIABILITY TO MIL-HDBK-217

1999-07-30 Thread Mel Pedersen
I have a copy, and I believe I purchased it at the Document Center also.   Thier number now is:  650-591-7600   It was less than $100.  I think around $50...not too expensive.   - Mel -Original Message- From: Robert Walch [mailto:rwa...@vectron.com] Sent: Friday, July 30, 1999 9:07 AM

RE: Flamible Liquids and Vapors

1999-07-29 Thread Mel Pedersen
I would look into the Intrinsic Safety - Electrical Apparatus for Potentially Explosive Atmospheres standards.   EN 50014 and EN 50020 cover these.   Factory Mutual, UL, and the Instrument Society of America also have similar standards for this type of equipment.   Hope this helps.   Mel

RE: Comms bus interface

1999-07-26 Thread Mel Pedersen
very benign, however...I would check with the above in mind just to be sure. The above (you probably are aware...) can be found under the Introduction, Principles of Safety Section. Perhaps I am just too careful? One does want to be sure however. Hope this helps, Mel Pedersen

RE: TNV-1 vs SELV for unit with Outdoor Coaxial Cable Connection

1998-12-02 Thread Mel Pedersen
to lunch on this one... Mel PedersenMidcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer Phone: (605) 882-8535 mpeder...@midcom-inc.com Fax: (605) 882-8633 -- From: Rich Nute[SMTP:ri...@sdd.hp.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 1998 10:49 AM To: pe

RE: Crepage/Clearance On Telecom Modem design

1998-10-13 Thread Mel Pedersen
and SELV, or PRIMARY and TNV, or PRIMARY and SELV, ELV, and TNV would be considered zero. However, between SELV and TNV, or ELV and TNV, one must take into account the difference in voltages between both the SELV and TNV circuits, or ELV and TNV circuits. See clauses 2.2.7.2 and 2.2.7.3. Mel

RE: Crepage/Clearance On Telecom Modem design

1998-10-12 Thread Mel Pedersen
? Hope this helps Barry. Mel PedersenMidcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer Phone: (605) 882-8535 mpeder...@midcom-inc.com Fax: (605) 882-8633 -- From: Barry Esmore[SMTP:bar...@melbpc.org.au] Sent: Friday, October 09, 1998 11:47 PM To: Mel

RE: Crepage/Clearance On Telecom Modem design

1998-10-12 Thread Mel Pedersen
(assuming a maximum ringing voltage of 280Vpeak...this, I believe, would be a very safe guess). - Mel -- From: Mel Pedersen[SMTP:mpeder...@midcom.anza.com] Sent: Monday, October 12, 1998 8:42 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org; 'Diaco Davari'; 'Barry Esmore' Subject:RE

RE: Crepage/Clearance On Telecom Modem design

1998-10-09 Thread Mel Pedersen
. It is possible that your consultants are correct for your particular case...however, it would be a very unusual case... They are correct about one thing...EN 60950 is the correct standard. feel free to call if you have any further questions, Mel PedersenMidcom, Inc

RE: Crepage/Clearance On Telecom Modem design

1998-10-09 Thread Mel Pedersen
they all make life a little easier and address this issue in the same location? Oh well... Mel PedersenMidcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer Phone: (605) 882-8535 mpeder...@midcom-inc.com Fax: (605) 882-8633 -- From: Lesmeister, Glenn

RE: Agency approvals on components in CE mar

1998-09-09 Thread Mel Pedersen
report or product approvals. Mel PedersenMidcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer Phone: (605) 882-8535 mpeder...@midcom-inc.com Fax: (605) 882-8633 -- From: JENKINS, JEFF[SMTP:je...@ftc2.aei.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 1998 11:31 AM

RE: EN 60950 A5

1998-08-28 Thread Mel Pedersen
will adopt this however. Mel PedersenMidcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer Phone: (605) 882-8535 mpeder...@midcom-inc.com Fax: (605) 882-8633 -- From: Jim Lyons[SMTP:jly...@gtech.com] Sent: Friday, August 28, 1998 10:09 AM To: emc-p

RE: Access to approval file.

1998-08-13 Thread Mel Pedersen
to the proper specifications, or that he has not changed the design in a manner that will invalidate your approvals. No CofC's, no supplier audits, etc. Hope this helps, Mel PedersenMidcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer Phone: (605) 882-8535 mpeder

IEC 695 needle flame test equipment

1998-08-12 Thread Mel Pedersen
Where would one look for the burner required by IEC 695? Thank you all, Mel PedersenMidcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer Phone: (605) 882-8535 mpeder...@midcom-inc.com Fax: (605) 882-8633 - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion

RE: 150VDC basic insulation versus 1000VAC test

1998-08-11 Thread Mel Pedersen
meet requirements for any components (transformers, capacitors, etc.) that might be bridging this barrier. Then you should be fine. Mel PedersenMidcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer Phone: (605) 882-8535 mpeder...@midcom-inc.com Fax: (605) 882-8633

RE: ADSL connection to phone line: safety and EMC

1998-08-03 Thread Mel Pedersen
not enough to help you. What I have given you on safety is a good start, I do not believe that there are additional requirements for safety. Either TREG or this group is fine for this question. Mel PedersenMidcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer Phone: (605) 882

RE: EN41003 not applicable to ITE?

1998-07-31 Thread Mel Pedersen
these days simply refers to clause 6 of EN 60590. Therefor, if you comply with EN 60950, then you comply with EN 41003. Hope that this helps... Mel PedersenMidcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer Phone: (605) 882-8535 mpeder...@midcom-inc.com Fax: (605

RE: FCC UL Requirements for Intercom systems

1998-07-29 Thread Mel Pedersen
be the primary standard for the type of equipment you describe. You are correct, both FCC part 68 and part 15 would apply here also. Mel PedersenMidcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer Phone: (605) 882-8535 mpeder...@midcom.anza.com Fax: (605) 886-6752

Isolation to from cable plant

1998-07-21 Thread Mel Pedersen
to apply to cable modems. One would want Reinforced isolation from mains to the cable plant. Would IEC 65 apply? Any FCC requirements to be aware of? Thank you for entertaining these simple questions. Mel PedersenMidcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer Phone

RE: Triple Insulated Kapton Magnet Wire

1998-07-18 Thread Mel Pedersen
Virginia Insulated Products Highway 91 P.O. Box 459 Saltville, VA 24370 Phone: (540) 496-5136 UL File #: E177572; UL1950/CSA 950, IEC 950 Annex U, REINFORCED INSULATION They are very nice fellows to work with. Mel PedersenMidcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer

RE: signal wire 300V 600V?

1998-06-30 Thread Mel Pedersen
Not sure...but maybe 600V wiring is required based on the primary protectors which are rated at 600V. Hope this helps, Mel PedersenMidcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer Phone: (605) 882-8535 mpeder...@midcom.anza.com Fax: (605) 886-6752

RE: Re: Testing of series produced machines

1998-04-21 Thread Mel Pedersen
%, or Routine electrical strength testing. Other questions to ask.. Are you relying on reduced clearances (see annex R)? Are your barrier components approved? Are you bridging your barriers in a manner that may affect compliance? Hope this helps, Mel PedersenMidcom, Inc

RE: ETS vs CTR vs TBR

1998-04-15 Thread Mel Pedersen
about this topic than myself. Hope this helps Dwight, Mel PedersenMidcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer Phone: (605) 882-8535 mpeder...@midcom.anza.com Fax: (605) 886-6752 -- From: Dwight Hunnicutt[SMTP:dwight.hunnic...@vina-tech.com] Sent

RE: Transformer potting + CTI spacer tape

1998-04-03 Thread Mel Pedersen
cycling test if taking this approach. If neither of the above apply to your case, you must take the worst case CIT rating of the two materials with common surfaces. If you have no rating, you must assume material group III. Hope this helps. Mel PedersenMidcom, Inc

RE: Safety Requirements in South Africa

1998-03-25 Thread Mel Pedersen
times. I am sure CSA or BSI would be good help also. Mel PedersenMidcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer Phone: (605) 882-8535 mpeder...@midcom.anza.com Fax: (605) 886-6752 -- From: WOODS, RICHARD[SMTP:wo...@sensormatic.com] Sent: Wednesday

European Exercise Equipment

1998-03-23 Thread Mel Pedersen
for the transformer? Thank you all, Mel PedersenMidcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer Phone: (605) 882-8535 mpeder...@midcom.anza.com Fax: (605) 886-6752

RE: more Recognized Plastics Directory

1998-03-19 Thread Mel Pedersen
Forgot to forward this to newsgroup. - Mel -- From: Mel Pedersen[SMTP:mpeder...@midcom.anza.com] Sent: Thursday, March 19, 1998 9:18 AM To: 'Peter E. Perkins' Subject:RE: more Recognized Plastics Directory Hello Peter, Your point is well taken, however, I am

Recognized Plastics Directory

1998-03-18 Thread Mel Pedersen
Hello All: Is there any test lab or authority other than UL that publishes a Plastics Recognized Component Directory? I am interested in finding ratings on materials based on IEC standards rather than UL standards. Thanks, Mel PedersenMidcom, Inc. Homologations

RE: EN50092-1:1997

1998-03-06 Thread Mel Pedersen
What is the point? - Mel -- From: CTL[SMTP:c...@prodigy.net] Sent: Monday, February 23, 1998 12:22 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject:EN50092-1:1997

RE: Bellcore Fire Resistance

1998-03-06 Thread Mel Pedersen
the flame retardency of the materials, the component needle flame test may be performed. You will still need to verify that they are building the components with the same materials that you had it tested with. Hope this helps, Mel PedersenMidcom, Inc. Homologations

RE: Comparative Tracking Index

1998-02-20 Thread Mel Pedersen
Hello Rich: it is a challenge to find a flame retardant material with a good CTI rating. The flame retardant in use tend to lower CTI ratings. - Mel -- From: Rick Busche[SMTP:rbus...@es.com] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 1998 12:23 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject:

RE: CE Marking in Canada???

1998-02-18 Thread Mel Pedersen
?? Mel Pedersen Midcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer Phone: (605) 882-8535 mpeder...@midcom.anza.com Fax: (605) 886-6752 -- From: MartinJP[SMTP:marti...@perkin-elmer.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 2:51 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org

RE: Study on Safety Testing against International/National Standards

1998-02-18 Thread Mel Pedersen
seminar. You don't do any hands on testing, but they will make very good basic understanding of the standard, walking you through the basic concepts and rational behind the requirements. Mel Pedersen Midcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer Phone: (605) 882-8535

RE: List Of Countries in CB Scheme

1998-01-20 Thread Mel Pedersen
UL, BSI, or CSA would, I'm sure be happy to help, especially if you've done buisiness with them. The operator at UL would be able to direct your call. They may even help you obtain the different national deviations to IEC 950. Hope this helps, Mel Pedersen

Y capacitors and Supplementary Insulation

1997-09-10 Thread Mel Pedersen
! Mel Pedersen Midcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer Phone: (605) 882-8535 mpeder...@midcom.anza.com Fax: (605) 886-6752

NEMA VS-1 classification

1997-08-19 Thread Mel Pedersen
concerning this issue would also be helpful. Thank you all! Mel Pedersen Midcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer Phone: (605) 882-8535 mpeder...@midcom.anza.com Fax: (605) 886-6752

RE: Safety / Notebooks

1997-08-14 Thread Mel Pedersen
). I would be glad to fax a copy of it to you. Regarding your second question, I believe you would need to test your notebook to IEC 950. My little HP 48G calculator has even been tested to EN 60950 (it states that inside the front cover of the users manual). Just my $.02, Mel Pedersen

RE: Transformer: IEC 950 VS. IEC 601-1-1

1997-07-22 Thread Mel Pedersen
of the 950 standard. Sorry to burst your bubble, but unless the transformer is overdesigned with regard to 950, I do not think it will pass IEC 601-1. hope this helps, Mel PedersenMidcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer Phone: (605) 882-8535 mpeder...@midcom.anza.com

RE: Japan safety standards

1997-07-16 Thread Mel Pedersen
You should be able to obtain a list of the Japanese national deviations to IEC 950 from UL, CSA, BSI, or other participants in the CB scheme. I obtained a list of the deviations from CSA. This list references IEC 950 amendments 1 2. hope this helps, Mel Pedersen, Midcom, Inc

intrinsic safety requirements

1997-07-14 Thread Mel Pedersen
operating at such low power that they are intrinsically safe? Thank you for any input. Mel PedersenMidcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer Phone: (605) 882-8535 mpeder...@midcom.anza.com Fax:(605) 886-6752

FW: Low Voltage Directive/IEC950

1997-06-12 Thread Mel Pedersen
Hope I'm not repeating myself, but I was confused as to whether this got to you guys. Long story, see below for my two cents on this issue. Thank you emc-pstc'ers. -- From: Mel Pedersen[SMTP:mpeder...@midcom.anza.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 1997 9:05 AM To: 'rob.ziel

RE: PC card safety standards

1997-05-30 Thread Mel Pedersen
yourself with in a situation like this. Good luck Chris. The above is solely the opinion of one who does not yet know all. Mel PedersenMidcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer Phone: (605) 882-8535 mpeder...@midcom.anza.com Fax:(605) 886-6752 -- From

RE: plug-in xfmrs; Philippine req'ts

1997-05-29 Thread Mel Pedersen
Mark: I took a look in the BHS Guidebook and PNS 256 appears to be the appropriate set of requirements. These requirements are based on IEC 65 (in case you didn't know). Hope this helps. Mel PedersenMidcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer Phone: (605) 882-8525 mpeder

RE: ITE or Machine?

1997-04-26 Thread Mel Pedersen
... Mel PedersenMidcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer Phone: (605) 882-8535 mpeder...@midcom.anza.com Fax:(605) 886-6752 -- From: WOODS, RICHARD[SMTP:wo...@sensormatic.com] Sent: Friday, April 25, 1997 12:20 PM To: Safety; EMC Subject:ITE

RE: Modem isolation

1997-02-01 Thread Mel Pedersen
on, but that should give you a start. Let me know if you have any more questions! All known disclaimers apply. Mel PedersenMidcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer Phone: (605) 882-8535 e-mail: mpeder...@midcom.anza.com Fax: (605) 886-6752

RE: Korea Requirements

1997-01-09 Thread Mel Pedersen
no information on safety requirements. Mel Pedersen, Midcom, Inc. e-mail: mpeder...@midcom.anza.com Disclaimers Apply -- From: Bill Pedersen[SMTP:wpede...@gentner.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 1997 3:35 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org; t...@world.std.com Subject:Korea

Medical Component (transformer) safety approvals

1996-12-11 Thread Mel Pedersen
in. Also, any literature on the topic? IEC 601-1 I understand is the proper standard for Europe. Are there any others? How harmonized are the US, Canada, Europe, Asia, etc. Thank you all very much for your help! Mel PedersenHomologations Engineer Midcom, Inc

IEC65/EN60065

1996-10-22 Thread Mel Pedersen
(table IV) -6mm of creepage and clearance, or 5mm of special conditions of section 4.3.3 or 9.3.5 are met (Table II). keep in mind that this is the 1976 publication, so I do not know if sections and tables are consistent in topic with the latest versions of IEC 65. Thanks a lot! Mel Pedersen

IEC 950 amd. 4

1996-10-04 Thread Mel Pedersen
Dear emc-pstc colleagues: I have heard a rumor that IEC 950 amd. 4 is removing the two layer option for supplementary insulation. (see section 2.9.4.2: Thin Sheet Material). This leaves only the three layer option. Does any one know if this is true? Thanks a lot for your feedback! Mel

BEAB

1996-09-13 Thread Mel Pedersen
Dear emc-pstc'ers: Has anyone heard of an approvals body called BEAB? If so, any information on them would be helpful. Thanks a lot Mel PedersenMidcom, Inc. Homologations Engineer Phone: (605) 882-8535 e-mail: mpeder...@midcom.anza.com Fax