On Sunday 25 December 2016 14:48:35 Nicklas Karlsson wrote:
> You only used Linuxcnc? Or do you have other g-codes or *-codes?
>
Thats it, I was the intelligence adjusting the feed rate to keep the
average current between 1 and 2 amps. :)
> On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 14:30:19 -0500
>
> Gene Heskett
You only used Linuxcnc? Or do you have other g-codes or *-codes?
On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 14:30:19 -0500
Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 25 December 2016 09:54:37 Nicklas Karlsson wrote:
>
> > > > Happen to know any more or less g-codes for these motions? g-codes
> > > > for
On Sunday 25 December 2016 09:54:37 Nicklas Karlsson wrote:
> > > Happen to know any more or less g-codes for these motions? g-codes
> > > for control of flush? g-codes for control of EDM power source?
> >
> > ...
> > i uploaded mcodes before with python commands to change edm
> > generator
> > Happen to know any more or less g-codes for these motions? g-codes for
> > control of flush? g-codes for control of EDM power source?
> ...
> i uploaded mcodes before with python commands to change edm generator
> on/off/current/polarity
I could remember I god some g-code suitable for EDM
I started to write down whatever g-codes I can find in different dialects in
table form.
1. Linuxcnc, will also look for the ones you supplied.
2. Sodick wire EDM.
3. Charmilles sinker EDM.
Yesterday I figured out three dimensions where required so I started to enter
in a database but
Nicklas,
i think i presume too much edm experience, sorry
for positioning, most edm systems use a low power sensing circuit
really low, like 12 V at 100ma is plenty
if you are positioning, this low power sense circuit is always in operation
if you are cutting, the spark generator is in operation
> "halcmd show pin" will tell you which pins actually exist.
Yes it does.
> Is it possible that the HAL is trying to connect pins before they
> exist?
Then i copied the row from "halcmd show pin" it worked. Problem is manual claim
it should be gladevcp.speedcontrol1-value while in reality it
> Merry Christmas to all
>
> Iam presuming we could use the probe sequencing as a way to find centre of
> a hole , or find an edge
> in the same way as a mill , just inhibit any power or in the case of a wire
> keep it stationary
The sparc generator have the potential to sense the voltage and I
"halcmd show pin" will tell you which pins actually exist.
Is it possible that the HAL is trying to connect pins before they
exist? With embedded tabs it is best to connect them up with a HAL
file loaded by the -H option:
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/man/man1/gladevcp.1.html
On 23/12/2016,
> > Only problem I have so far
> > is to get numeric values from SpeedControl widget, it complain it can't find
> > the pin.
>
> Glade controls tend to have two HAL pins, gladevcp.pin-s and
> fladevcp.pin-f which are the value as a signed int and as a float.
> Perhaps you have omitted to -s or
On 22/12/2016, Nicklas Karlsson wrote:
> Only problem I have so far
> is to get numeric values from SpeedControl widget, it complain it can't find
> the pin.
Glade controls tend to have two HAL pins, gladevcp.pin-s and
fladevcp.pin-f which are the value as a signed
Sarah Hello
On 12/23/16 18:24, Sarah Armstrong wrote:
> Merry Christmas to all
>
> Iam presuming we could use the probe sequencing as a way to find centre of
> a hole , or find an edge
> in the same way as a mill , just inhibit any power or in the case of a wire
> keep it stationary
edm
Possibility to use the same is why I asked. TJ Powderly proposed some, I
have manual for Sodick wire EDM and Charmilles ordinary EDM at home. I have
never used an EDM machine but work profesionally with software development.
2016-12-23 12:24 GMT+01:00 Sarah Armstrong
Merry Christmas to all
Iam presuming we could use the probe sequencing as a way to find centre of
a hole , or find an edge
in the same way as a mill , just inhibit any power or in the case of a wire
keep it stationary
is their any edm machines actually using gcode / m codes? perhaps we can
use
I will look for the mcodes you uploaded. With g-codes I more or less
thought about all the different letters although which letter to use is
rather important.
2016-12-23 3:29 GMT+01:00 TJoseph Powderly :
> Merry Christmas Nicklas
>
> On 12/23/16 05:12, Nicklas Karlsson wrote:
>
Merry Christmas Nicklas
On 12/23/16 05:12, Nicklas Karlsson wrote:
> User interface seems rather simple although I have some problem with widgets
> to get numbers into linuxcnc. I almost got something useful to test machine
> manually but for real machining programming is needed.
>
> Happen to
User interface seems rather simple although I have some problem with widgets to
get numbers into linuxcnc. I almost got something useful to test machine
manually but for real machining programming is needed.
Happen to know any more or less g-codes for these motions? g-codes for control
of
Thanks! I guess I have to start dig thru manual to figure out how old machine
is run.
I have a few hours each night and tonight I would be happy if I could a
gladevcp panel up and running.
On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 23:54:19 +0700
TJoseph Powderly wrote:
> Nicklas
> 'ram' is
Nicklas
'ram' is another way to say 'sink' eroding, the kind that uses a shaped tool
'wire' is for cutting thru a plate
'tube' or 'drill' or hole popper' for holes
'grinder' for for open surfaces
multiple solenoids can be used to control flow
if a series of ports are on a single feeding pipe
then
Nicklas hello
2 basic motion types are useful ( at least 2 )
1 is jumping, a way to remove debris,
the debris generated in erosion needs to be removed,
it lowers the conduction of the environment and disturbs a voltage drop
based control
flushing thru the tool is very good but it is
> I have a large Makino wire EDM with a working envelope of 1200x900x300mm with
> UV axes for tapered cutting. I also am looking to update the machine but
> have other projects in front of it. One neat feature of my wire machine is
> edge finding and locating the center of a hole if
Hi Nicklas,
I have a large Makino wire EDM with a working envelope of 1200x900x300mm with
UV axes for tapered cutting. I also am looking to update the machine but have
other projects in front of it. One neat feature of my wire machine is edge
finding and locating the center of a hole if
Yes I am retrofitting an old EDM machine. It have been a year two before I
started but finally I have all the needed hardware. As is now I am
starting to think about user interface and could vaguley remember somebody
talked about it earlier, worst problem is probably I am not totally sure
what is
Nicklas,
Could you give me details etc, and I can get up to date, and join the
discussion
Sarah
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On 19 Dec 2016, 20:16, at 20:16, Nicklas Karlsson
wrote:
>Finally I have all the necessary hardware parts, some are still on
>desktop not
Nicklas congratualtions
of course I would test
I am off this morning for a week
but would look at the new year
Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to you & all the developers of Linuxcnc
tomp tjtr33
On 12/20/16 03:11, Nicklas Karlsson wrote:
> Finally I have all the necessary hardware parts, some
Finally I have all the necessary hardware parts, some are still on desktop not
connected to machine but they are tested to work: servo drives, digital IO,
spark generator.
Right now I start to think about user interface and as I remember someone
started work on this earlier.
If anyone is
Hello Nicklas,
On 08/21/16 23:08, Nicklas Karlsson wrote:
Hello Nicklas, On 08/17/16 00:40, Nicklas Karlsson wrote:
>>> I have tried to use voltage to control EDM gap distance but are not sure
>>> this is the correct method. I found a paper there someone suggested gap
>>> resistance is a non
> Hello Nicklas,
>
> On 08/17/16 00:40, Nicklas Karlsson wrote:
> > I have tried to use voltage to control EDM gap distance but are not sure
> > this is the correct method. I found a paper there someone suggested gap
> > resistance is a non linear function of gap distance.
> the gap
Hello Nicklas,
On 08/17/16 00:40, Nicklas Karlsson wrote:
> I have tried to use voltage to control EDM gap distance but are not sure this
> is the correct method. I found a paper there someone suggested gap resistance
> is a non linear function of gap distance.
the gap resistance is used
I have tried to use voltage to control EDM gap distance but are not sure this
is the correct method. I found a paper there someone suggested gap resistance
is a non linear function of gap distance.
They also stated ignition delay time depend on gap distance.
I am not totally sure if there is a
st I can come up with without lying.
> -- Ralph
>
> From: Gene Heskett [ghesk...@shentel.net]
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 10:29 AM
> To: Ralph Stirling
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EDM with continuous wire?
>
> On Friday 22 July 20
On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> I did that, but on importing the pix, intending to put some captions in
> the pix, I found that wilber's text button on the menu doesn't work.
That's odd. What exactly are you doing? GIMP changes around Ithe
location
On Thursday 21 July 2016 11:35:54 Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 21 July 2016 09:16:58 Ralph Stirling wrote:
> > Perhaps a video would be unnecessary, but some photos
> > would sure help us curious folk better visualize your setup.
> > It sounds like a very handy system you rigged up, and not
Jon hello
On 07/21/16 21:32, Jon Elson wrote:
> On 07/21/2016 12:16 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> On Thursday 21 July 2016 00:00:12 TJoseph Powderly wrote:
>>
>>> Gene
>>> once again your post title ran me off as i took it to be correct
>>> your post is titled 'continuous wire'
>>> not disk,
On Thursday 21 July 2016 09:16:58 Ralph Stirling wrote:
> Perhaps a video would be unnecessary, but some photos
> would sure help us curious folk better visualize your setup.
> It sounds like a very handy system you rigged up, and not
> very difficult.
>
> Thanks,
I'll take the camera out and
tungsten moly wire is used for those reciprocating wedm's
not a loop, but unwound slow thru cut, then rapid rewound during a pause
when feed spool is sensed to be low
tiny stuff but tough and re-usable
all tools have pros & cons
this stuff is triangular, tough and hell on guides (carbide pins )
On 21 July 2016 at 15:32, Jon Elson wrote:
> He used a molybdenum
> wire that ran back and forth between large rollers. So, he probably had
> something like 20 feet of wire in the machine, and it reversed when it
> neared either end.
I used a diamond-wire saw working on
On 07/21/2016 12:16 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 21 July 2016 00:00:12 TJoseph Powderly wrote:
>
>> Gene
>> once again your post title ran me off as i took it to be correct
>> your post is titled 'continuous wire'
>> not disk, hahaha
>>
> My bad Tomp, I thought about it, but understood
: Thursday, July 21, 2016 4:47 AM
To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EDM with continuous wire?
On Thursday 21 July 2016 03:05:51 TJoseph Powderly wrote:
> sounds great gene
> yes you were 'negative polarity'
> ( in usa the old elox company called this standard
On Thursday 21 July 2016 03:05:51 TJoseph Powderly wrote:
> sounds great gene
> yes you were 'negative polarity'
> ( in usa the old elox company called this standard )
> brass works fine too, more forgiving
> if the tool gets black you are getting closer to lo wear
> tho low wear for brass is
sounds great gene
yes you were 'negative polarity'
( in usa the old elox company called this standard )
brass works fine too, more forgiving
if the tool gets black you are getting closer to lo wear
tho low wear for brass is like high wear for graphite
you're using an rc generator... so
On Thursday 21 July 2016 00:00:12 TJoseph Powderly wrote:
> Gene
> once again your post title ran me off as i took it to be correct
> your post is titled 'continuous wire'
> not disk, hahaha
>
My bad Tomp, I thought about it, but understood quickly that such a
machine was way above my pay
On Wednesday 20 July 2016 22:43:21 TJoseph Powderly wrote:
> dont spin too fast
> SFM is pretty low ( compared to regular grinding )
> if too fast you hear the sparking get weak
> (try slower to test quick )
> the spark can get 'blown out' ( as in candle ) if you move too fast
>
This 2.875" disk
On Wednesday 20 July 2016 22:34:00 TJoseph Powderly wrote:
> Hello Gene
> Using copper tools to cut steel ( all other variable untouched )
> Positive tool is lower wear & slower cut & rougher finish
> Negative tool is higher wear & faster cut & finer finish
> hth
> tomp
> tjtr33
No copper
Gene
in this vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccYE0ICp5F8
he shows a better pyvcp panel ( and shows he's likely using a parport)
AND hahaha hes using an old AGie 60L generator for power
AND a home-made 'crossbow' wire feed on a stock sinker
( with linuxcnc moving the slides )
got a Polish
Gene
once again your post title ran me off as i took it to be correct
your post is titled 'continuous wire'
not disk, hahaha
if you wanted continuous wire
( reciprocating versus single direction, using capstan windlass rewinder)
then look at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoV8UXtLYmE
Andre
dont spin too fast
SFM is pretty low ( compared to regular grinding )
if too fast you hear the sparking get weak
(try slower to test quick )
the spark can get 'blown out' ( as in candle ) if you move too fast
AGie EDM grinders were used to slot sewing machine carbide plates
and the wheel was
Hello Gene
Using copper tools to cut steel ( all other variable untouched )
Positive tool is lower wear & slower cut & rougher finish
Negative tool is higher wear & faster cut & finer finish
hth
tomp
tjtr33
On Wednesday 20 July 2016 14:30:43 dave wrote:
> Hi gene,
> I may have come in too late: i.e.
> Day late and a dollar short. Welcome to the real world.
> IIUC you want a slot. EDM and a copper disk should do this
> quite nicely. Hope you get something working.
>
> Dave
I should have it in
On Wednesday 20 July 2016 14:14:21 andy pugh wrote:
> On 20 July 2016 at 18:29, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > I don't have a mill spindle with the torque enough to turn one of
> > those at a good enough feed rate to keep it cutting clean, and slow
> > enough it won't burn dull in
Hi gene,
I may have come in too late: i.e.
Day late and a dollar short. Welcome to the real world.
IIUC you want a slot. EDM and a copper disk should do this
quite nicely. Hope you get something working.
Dave
On 07/20/2016 10:29 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Wednesday 20 July 2016 13:12:09 andy
On 20 July 2016 at 18:29, Gene Heskett wrote:
> I don't have a mill spindle with the torque enough to turn one of those
> at a good enough feed rate to keep it cutting clean, and slow enough it
> won't burn dull in seconds.
You could use the lathe, I suspect.
--
atp
"A
On Wednesday 20 July 2016 13:12:09 andy pugh wrote:
> On 20 July 2016 at 17:34, Rick Lair wrote:
> >> http://www.mcmaster.com/#=13d62q6
> >
> > Bad link, just goes to Mcmasters main page,
>
> Search for "slitting saws" then.
I don't have a mill spindle with the torque
On 20 July 2016 at 17:34, Rick Lair wrote:
>> http://www.mcmaster.com/#=13d62q6
> Bad link, just goes to Mcmasters main page,
Search for "slitting saws" then.
--
atp
"A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is
designed for the especial use of
On 07/20/2016 11:52 AM, andy pugh wrote:
> On 20 July 2016 at 16:41, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> So I am thinking of other ways to do this.
> http://www.mcmaster.com/#=13d62q6
>
Bad link, just goes to Mcmasters main page,
--
Thanks
Rick Lair
Superior Roll & Turning LLC
399
On 20 July 2016 at 16:41, Gene Heskett wrote:
> So I am thinking of other ways to do this.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#=13d62q6
--
atp
"A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is
designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
Greetings everybody;
The next step in making this shaft extension will be slitting the socket
so that a tapered nut matching the tapered threads can compress the
resulting fingered socket.
I did this once before using the larger of the dremel diamond disks, but
was not at all happy with the
On 05/01/2016 01:30 AM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote:
> I had some discussions here before about gap control and think Pete
> participated. Right now I am at the spot there I should try gap control on
> real machine.
>
If you don't know about Ben Fleming, he wrote a couple books
with EDM designs, and
I had some discussions here before about gap control and think Pete
participated. Right now I am at the spot there I should try gap control on real
machine.
> You might try Petegruende...@att.net
> Years ago he put together a sinker driven by basic code. One of the
> demo's was a
You might try Petegruende...@att.net
Years ago he put together a sinker driven by basic code. One of the
demo's was a thread cut
in a file. ;-) There is a massive thread on emc_dev about feed and gap
control. Also you might
want to contact Steve Stallings as he did some work on a board
Finally I start to get together both hardware and software including generator
for my EDM machine.
I work with electronics and are new to mechanical machining and EDM in
particular. Do anybody know if anything more than adaptive feed rate including
backwards have been done for EDM?
Nicklas
On 04.03.13 19:44, TJoseph Powderly wrote:
At the time I got your email,
I was writing oneshots for arduino,
triggered by the beginning of current flow,
an OnTimeShot runs, then a single OffTimeShot.
This makes each tiny crater a uniform size, where a
constant on/off/on/off will vary in
On 03/05/2013 02:48 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote:
Is that diameter variation with depth, and if it's due to constant
mark/space ratio, are you adjusting the timing ratio of the one-shots to
achieve compensation?
Erik, hello,
Basically, yes :)
The depth and diameter is governed by the
Jeez tomp, that thing got a flux capacitor in it yet? Hell I'd just
piss on the spark plug if I thought it would do any goodLOL that is
some deep stuff you are playing with man glad and amazed that you are able
to do it with linuxcnc. Keep on Merlin's on that is some very
On 03/04/2013 08:40 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
oops - here are the pictures of his edm work
http://electronicsam.com/images/Pete_G/edm.jpg
http://electronicsam.com/images/Pete_G/edm_xc.jpg
sam
On 3/4/2013 8:30 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
I had a little CNC get-together Saturday mainly to help
On Monday 04 March 2013 22:13:36 TJoseph Powderly did opine:
On 03/04/2013 08:40 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
oops - here are the pictures of his edm work
http://electronicsam.com/images/Pete_G/edm.jpg
http://electronicsam.com/images/Pete_G/edm_xc.jpg
sam
On 3/4/2013 8:30 AM, sam
Jon Elson wrote:
Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 21 August 2007, Jon Elson wrote:
I think with a hollow electrode with a drip feed
scheme through the electrode it would go a lot faster.
Theres always that 'yabut' Jon, in this case yabut where can I find one of
those? :)
How about a
Gene,
i forgot to say to connect the neg lead to the tool
and the positive to the work
in this old rc way , it is more efficient to run 'negative head'.
it gets you a slightly larger gap and speed at the expense of more wear.
On Tuesday 21 August 2007, Jon Elson wrote:
Gene Heskett wrote:
Understood. In playing tonight with 25 volts probably 100 ma average, I
found that spinning the electrode at around 1k rpms seemed to add enough
agitation to the oil that I could use it all up and go about 30 thou
before I had
On Tuesday 21 August 2007, Stuart Stevenson wrote:
Gentlemen,
We cheat. The edm uses through the spindle/tool flushing and
dielectric oil. The electrode is a copper tube. The tube is not
completely hollow. The tube has a web in the center of it. This allows
it to remove the whole plug instead
commercial unit, 1mmdia tubing, average current near 25 amps is acceptable (
not optimal )
so 1 amp
is dang slow
tomp
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Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop.
Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 21 August 2007, Jon Elson wrote:
I think with a hollow electrode with a drip feed
scheme through the electrode it would go a lot faster.
Theres always that 'yabut' Jon, in this case yabut where can I find one of
those? :)
Hollow electrode? I get various
On Tuesday 21 August 2007, Jon Elson wrote:
Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 21 August 2007, Jon Elson wrote:
I think with a hollow electrode with a drip feed
scheme through the electrode it would go a lot faster.
Theres always that 'yabut' Jon, in this case yabut where can I find one of
On Monday 20 August 2007, Jon Elson wrote:
Gene Heskett wrote:
Greetings everybody;
I was working on the frame for my new z axis drive for that micro-mill,
and have managed now to break off not one, but 2, 6-nc32 taps in the holes
drilled into the edge of a piece of 1/4x1.5 steel bar.
I now
Gene - I think that if you were to build a dam around the part with
modeling clay and fill with kerosene might help speed things up. Keep
in mind that kero is flammable so take care. Just my 2 cents worth -
I've never done it.
By the way, I submitted an article to Digital Machining
Hi Gene,
Paraffin oil aka lamp oil is pretty close to EDM dielectric. Using
70 -90 V for your DC supply and something on the order of 10 uf
with a resistor in the 20-50 ohm range should get you an RC circuit
that will be close. A bit if component substitution will get you to
an acceptable
Gentlemen,
I asked our EDM operator what parameters he would use with your
setup to get the 6/32 tap out of the steel. He set it up in our
LeBlond Makino EDNC 65. His recommendation is 30 volts DC, 1 amp and
10 rpm, dry with compressed air. The fluid, whether it is dielectric
petroleum
On Monday 20 August 2007, Dave Engvall wrote:
Hi Gene,
Paraffin oil aka lamp oil is pretty close to EDM dielectric.
How about fuel oil, as in what you'd feed one of those horizontal tank
heaters? It seems as usable as anything else I've got 5 gallons of it
getting old, cuz I fired it up in
On Monday 20 August 2007, Stuart Stevenson wrote:
Gentlemen,
I asked our EDM operator what parameters he would use with your
setup to get the 6/32 tap out of the steel. He set it up in our
LeBlond Makino EDNC 65. His recommendation is 30 volts DC, 1 amp and
10 rpm, dry with compressed air.
Gene Heskett wrote:
Understood. In playing tonight with 25 volts probably 100 ma average, I
found that spinning the electrode at around 1k rpms seemed to add enough
agitation to the oil that I could use it all up and go about 30 thou before I
had to vacuum it out and refresh it, with
Gentlemen,
We cheat. The edm uses through the spindle/tool flushing and
dielectric oil. The electrode is a copper tube. The tube is not
completely hollow. The tube has a web in the center of it. This allows
it to remove the whole plug instead of leaving a core.
You will have the same
Gene Heskett wrote:
Greetings everybody;
I was working on the frame for my new z axis drive for that micro-mill, and
have managed now to break off not one, but 2, 6-nc32 taps in the holes
drilled into the edge of a piece of 1/4x1.5 steel bar.
I now have the work insulated, a copper wire
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