Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me

2016-07-28 Thread dave
When you think about it the chip is cheap. Consider instead how much time/$$$ you are going to have to invest in software to configure that many gates. Scary to even think about. It is little wonder that NSA, etc may be the only ones using that chip. Jon- a whole board covered with those chips

Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me (OT warning)

2016-02-02 Thread TJoseph Powderly
nicklas hahaha i understand very well but dont be sour all women love you.r money as they say here in thailand ;-) tomp On 02/02/2016 01:16 AM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 08:27:42 -0800 > Steve Traugott wrote: > >> Interesting. My wife and

Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me

2016-02-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/01/2016 12:33 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 1 February 2016 at 18:02, Dave Cole wrote: >> I'd still like to understand how China goods can be shipping and >> imported into the US for virtually free, but I can't ship the same item >> across the country for anything close

Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me

2016-02-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/01/2016 12:02 PM, Dave Cole wrote: >Although Nafta was > suppose to grease the skids between countries. From personal > experience, and a small biz owner I can tell you that it only greased > the skids for big companies to transfer large quantities of goods and > assets across the

Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me

2016-02-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/01/2016 12:01 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 1 February 2016 at 17:40, Jon Elson wrote: >> The US was the ONLY developed country that was not left in >> total ruin in 1945. (Well, Britain wasn't all that bad.) > Britain had intact government and institutions, but the

Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me

2016-02-01 Thread Gregg Eshelman
Aliexpress is just a site for vendors to sell through. AFAIK, Aliexpress sells nothing themselves. So if you get bad packaging from one vendor, it's not the fault of Aliexpress. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me

2016-02-01 Thread Marshland Engineering
Farnell Newark Element 14 Joke All the same company. Joke It is cheaper for me to order parts from the US plus shipping by (1/3) than buy locally from the Newark in New Zealand and this was on a $800 order for multi turn pots. I now only buy from the branded houses if I need next day else eBay or

Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me

2016-02-01 Thread Marshland Engineering
I had a Chinese migrant who worked for me here in New Zealand and her comment was, Aliexpress is just EBay. It is not a one big shop selling everything. It is many many sellers with their goods. Check their feedback first. Best thing is when you receive the goods open a dispute and then let

Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me

2016-02-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/01/2016 12:44 AM, John Dammeyer wrote: > So the deck is stacked against Canadian companies in all sorts of > directions. > Well, the only hope is to find a niche so small that the Chinese copycats can't be bothered to copy what you are doing. Jon

Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me

2016-02-01 Thread andy pugh
On 1 February 2016 at 05:10, John Dammeyer wrote: > Digikey stuff overnight unless there's been some sort of weather delay. > There is no shipping charge if the order is over $200. RS used to offer free shipping for any order size, then changed it to free for orders >

Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me (OT warning)

2016-02-01 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 08:27:42 -0800 Steve Traugott wrote: > Interesting. My wife and I run an electronics manufacturing business. ... Interesting wife and business seems exciting. One of my teachers once asked why women prefer gold it does not corrode but I answered it's

Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me

2016-02-01 Thread Steve Traugott
Interesting. My wife and I run an electronics manufacturing business. We tend to prefer mouser *because* their parametric search works so well -- I've always thought it was better than Digikey's. I think it probably comes down to getting the hang of a particular web site's parametric search.

Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me

2016-02-01 Thread Mark
On 02/01/2016 11:27 AM, Steve Traugott wrote: > Interesting. My wife and I run an electronics manufacturing business. We > tend to prefer mouser *because* their parametric search works so well -- > I've always thought it was better than Digikey's. > > I think it probably comes down to getting

Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me

2016-02-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/31/2016 11:29 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > On 01/31/2016 11:10 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: >> In Canada we pay in Canadian dollars and the prices of the parts are >> suitably inflated past just the exchange rate. There is no minimum and >> shipping is a flat $8. I'm on Vancouver Island and FedEx

Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me

2016-02-01 Thread Rafael
On 02/01/2016 09:42 AM, Jon Elson wrote: > On 02/01/2016 12:44 AM, John Dammeyer wrote: >>So the deck is stacked against Canadian companies in all sorts of >> directions. >> > Well, the only hope is to find a niche so small that the > Chinese copycats can't be bothered to copy what you are

Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me

2016-02-01 Thread andy pugh
On 1 February 2016 at 18:02, Dave Cole wrote: > I'd still like to understand how China goods can be shipping and > imported into the US for virtually free, but I can't ship the same item > across the country for anything close to the same cost. > If anyone knows, please

Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me

2016-02-01 Thread andy pugh
On 1 February 2016 at 17:40, Jon Elson wrote: > The US was the ONLY developed country that was not left in > total ruin in 1945. (Well, Britain wasn't all that bad.) Britain had intact government and institutions, but the major industrial centres had been heavily bombed

Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me

2016-02-01 Thread Dave Cole
A good chunk of my "Cole" family branch lived on Vancouver Island and some still do. Another branch is from Newfoundland and Nova Scotia and we all still stay in touch which is rather amazing to me. The US has a love-hate relationship with Canada. Although Nafta was suppose to grease the

Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me (OT warning)

2016-02-01 Thread Evan Foss
On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 08:27:42 -0800 > Steve Traugott wrote: > >> Interesting. My wife and I run an electronics manufacturing business. ... > > Interesting wife and business seems exciting.

Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me

2016-02-01 Thread John Dammeyer
So far that's been my Electronic Lead Screw for Lathes. But that's a tiny market. Any LED light show stuff that I build is available cheaper from other places. Only when it's a government sponsored project like the one in the link do I get to design the hardware and software. For this project

Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me

2016-02-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/01/2016 12:44 AM, John Dammeyer wrote: > Hi Jon, > I can buy 100 pieces at $8.622 each in Cdn. which is about $6.15US or > $862.20 Cdn total ($615.00 US). > http://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/DSPIC30F5011-20I%2FPT/DSPIC30F5011-2 > 0I%2FPT-ND/691581 > > The US site lists 100 pieces at

Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me

2016-01-31 Thread John Dammeyer
Gene, Never ever wrap static sensitive semiconductors in foil. The point of the pink or black antistatic materials is to 'slowly' conduct the energy from the device or your fingers. Foil is a great conductor and you are more likely to damage them wrapping them in foil than just handling them

Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me

2016-01-31 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/31/2016 08:50 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > The cro-magnun filling the order has no clue about the care and feeding > of mosfet transistors, so the 10 pack I ordered were arranged as 2 rows > of 5, with the legs interdigitated, bound in scotch tape as a slab to > fit nicely in a China Post

Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me

2016-01-31 Thread Dave Cole
On 1/31/2016 6:51 PM, John Kasunich wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 31, 2016, at 06:18 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Sunday 31 January 2016 13:43:50 Jon Elson wrote: >> >>> I can't imagine why you'd buy commodity semis from a Chinese >>> source when there are great distributors like Digi-Key and >>>

Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me

2016-01-31 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 31 January 2016 14:16:17 John Dammeyer wrote: > Gene, > Never ever wrap static sensitive semiconductors in foil. The point of > the pink or black antistatic materials is to 'slowly' conduct the > energy from the device or your fingers. Foil is a great conductor and > you are more

Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me

2016-01-31 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 31 January 2016 13:43:50 Jon Elson wrote: > On 01/31/2016 08:50 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > The cro-magnun filling the order has no clue about the care and > > feeding of mosfet transistors, so the 10 pack I ordered were > > arranged as 2 rows of 5, with the legs interdigitated, bound

Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me

2016-01-31 Thread John Kasunich
On Sun, Jan 31, 2016, at 06:18 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 31 January 2016 13:43:50 Jon Elson wrote: > > > I can't imagine why you'd buy commodity semis from a Chinese > > source when there are great distributors like Digi-Key and > > Mouser, that are quite happy to serve small orders.

Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me

2016-01-31 Thread TJoseph Powderly
yes the search is great, the delivery is quick & selection very good CAVET make sure you have all the parts ordered then wait a while and see if the list is still complete several times i found one small item missing and ended up paying a second shipping charge hard to do when its a rush fix for

Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me

2016-01-31 Thread John Dammeyer
Hi Jon, I can buy 100 pieces at $8.622 each in Cdn. which is about $6.15US or $862.20 Cdn total ($615.00 US). http://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/DSPIC30F5011-20I%2FPT/DSPIC30F5011-2 0I%2FPT-ND/691581 The US site lists 100 pieces at $5.67 US or $567; a difference of $48.

Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me

2016-01-31 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
I second that love for Digikey. It's easier for me to buy from them 9.000 km away from them, than going to a local store here in my country. I usually have the parts in 4 or 5 days and everything is well packed. Also the search engine and order placement is great. A question about pricing on

Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me

2016-01-31 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 31 January 2016 18:51:22 John Kasunich wrote: > On Sun, Jan 31, 2016, at 06:18 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 31 January 2016 13:43:50 Jon Elson wrote: > > > I can't imagine why you'd buy commodity semis from a Chinese > > > source when there are great distributors like Digi-Key

Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me

2016-01-31 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 31 January 2016 19:10:14 Dave Cole wrote: > On 1/31/2016 6:51 PM, John Kasunich wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 31, 2016, at 06:18 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> On Sunday 31 January 2016 13:43:50 Jon Elson wrote: > >>> I can't imagine why you'd buy commodity semis from a Chinese > >>> source when

Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me

2016-01-31 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/31/2016 06:34 PM, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: > A question about pricing on FPGAs, and just out of my curiosity. Why is it > the most expensive ones cost over 50k dolars? I know they have great > paralelism capabilities and a lot of IOs but god those are expensive! > > Well, seems their only

Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me

2016-01-31 Thread John Dammeyer
In Canada we pay in Canadian dollars and the prices of the parts are suitably inflated past just the exchange rate. There is no minimum and shipping is a flat $8. I'm on Vancouver Island and FedEx delivers the Digikey stuff overnight unless there's been some sort of weather delay. There is no

Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me

2016-01-31 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/31/2016 05:18 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > Both of the above have minimum orders for me that are quite costly for a > 10 pak of anything in the transistor 10 cent to 5 dollar price range. Hmmm, I guess I order enough stuff at a time that I totally forgot there's a minimum order! But, if you

Re: [Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me

2016-01-31 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/31/2016 11:10 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: > In Canada we pay in Canadian dollars and the prices of the parts are > suitably inflated past just the exchange rate. There is no minimum and > shipping is a flat $8. I'm on Vancouver Island and FedEx delivers the > Digikey stuff overnight unless

[Emc-users] Well, thats the end of aliexpress.com for me

2016-01-31 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings; I had asked about them prior to ordering some hexfet transistors from their site. The cro-magnun filling the order has no clue about the care and feeding of mosfet transistors, so the 10 pack I ordered were arranged as 2 rows of 5, with the legs interdigitated, bound in scotch tape