Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread marcus . bowman
I am still using Inventor 2011. Yes; it took a while to get to grips with it, but it's very capable. I have 2014 but have never installed it (always seem to be waiting for a newer computer). Inventor has become Fusion 360 now, so there seems little point in upgrading Inventor itself. There is no CA

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Lester Caine
On 23/03/2019 02:56, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 22 March 2019 18:52:54 Lester Caine wrote: On 22/03/2019 22:46, Bruce Layne wrote: I use FreeCAD, mostly for 3D printing.  It's still not ready for prime time and doesn't have a usable CAM system so it's not a possible replacement for Fusion 3

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 at 22:48, Bruce Layne wrote: > If there was no FreeCAD, I'd use OpenSCAD long before I'd use Fusion > 360. Free Open Source Software for the win. I admire your principles, and agree in theory. But I already know Inventor and Fusion and know that they can do what I need, and

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 at 08:13, wrote: > I am still using Inventor 2011. Yes; it took a while to get to grips > with it, but it's very capable. I have 2014 but have never installed > it (always seem to be waiting for a newer computer). Inventor has > become Fusion 360 now, so there seems little poi

Re: [Emc-users] problem DH parameters manipulator arm

2019-03-23 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 at 00:45, yomin estiven jaramillo munera wrote: > > Hi chris, i would like ask you something, based on you said , I need to > figure out how my elbow angle is moved in function to my base angle, and > after this i will need to add this function to my kinematics file, in that >

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Jeff Johnson
The free cad cam options just don't seem to work for us, Clunky is what comes to mind plus no ability to handle other formats. I do admire the people that can Live in that realm. I have a crew of 10-12 guy's and getting everyone on the same page is tough as they all have opinions. Retro-fitted 4 m

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 23 March 2019 04:21:22 Lester Caine wrote: > On 23/03/2019 02:56, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 22 March 2019 18:52:54 Lester Caine wrote: > >> On 22/03/2019 22:46, Bruce Layne wrote: > >>> I use FreeCAD, mostly for 3D printing.  It's still not ready for > >>> prime time and doesn'

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Lester Caine
On 23/03/2019 13:59, Gene Heskett wrote: How are you getting the gcode? Its not yet listed as an export option. The path workdesk has a process much like sorting out paths on Vcarve/Cut2D once you have set up a job to build and sorted out cutters. But while I know one can select and view each s

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Tom Easterday
I have been running Fusion 360 for several years now. Before that I used Alibre Design/Geomagic (I still own but rarely use Alibre). I have hundreds of models, drawings and complex assemblies in Fusion 360. I have used SolidWorks as well as a couple other CAD packages in years past. Fusion 3

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 23 March 2019 10:12:53 Lester Caine wrote: > On 23/03/2019 13:59, Gene Heskett wrote: > > How are you getting the gcode? Its not yet listed as an export > > option. > > The path workdesk has a process much like sorting out paths on > Vcarve/Cut2D once you have set up a job to build and

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 at 14:58, Tom Easterday wrote: > Yes, the no, low cost license could change (though Autodesk has repeatedly > said it won’t) and you’d have a lot of work into > Fusion which you’d have to convert, but this is true with any package. > Alibre/Geomagic was on the brink of obli

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Les Newell
With CAM you need to develop a different mind set. You are now programming with your drawing and CAM setup, not G-code. The G-code the becomes purely a way for the CAM to talk to your machine. It doesn't matter if you have 10 lines or 1 lines. You can in theory do your drawings by directly

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Greg Bernard
As an Autocad user for 25 years, I can say the issue of file formats not being backward compatible is really not a significant problem. All Autocad versions have the option of saving the file in an older .dwg or .dxf format. There may be some minor problems with formatting of dimensions, etc. but w

Re: [Emc-users] ConFusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Rafael Skodlar
On 3/22/19 2:14 PM, Jeff Johnson wrote: Anyone on here have opinions on Fusion 360 Cad/Cam by Autodesk? Opinions is one thing, experience is another. After few mentions about Fusion on this mailing list in the past I briefly looked at it and that was it. Anything from here is my _opinion_ ba

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 23 March 2019 12:03:19 Les Newell wrote: > With CAM you need to develop a different mind set. You are now > programming with your drawing and CAM setup, not G-code. The G-code > the becomes purely a way for the CAM to talk to your machine. It > doesn't matter if you have 10 lines or 10

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Chris Albertson
On Sat, Mar 23, 2019 at 1:13 AM wrote: > I am still using Inventor 2011. Yes; it took a while to get to grips > with it, but it's very capable. I have 2014 but have never installed > it (always seem to be waiting for a newer computer). Inventor has > become Fusion 360 now, so there seems little p

Re: [Emc-users] ConFusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 23 March 2019 13:47:27 Rafael Skodlar wrote: > On 3/22/19 2:14 PM, Jeff Johnson wrote: > > Anyone on here have opinions on Fusion 360 Cad/Cam by Autodesk? > > Opinions is one thing, experience is another. After few mentions about > Fusion on this mailing list in the past I briefly look

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Chris Albertson
On Sat, Mar 23, 2019 at 10:56 AM Gene Heskett wrote: > > I've downloaded that latest freecad-0.17, but its 64 bit and this is a 32 > bit install, so the best thing I might try is to go fire up a rock64, > which is stretch on arm64 with 4 gb of dram, 60 GB of SSD and see how it > works there. > I

Re: [Emc-users] ConFusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Moses McKnight
On 3/23/19 1:16 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: ... Gotta learn geda and friends I guess. If you're trying EDA software, I found Kicad to be far easier to learn and use than Eagle or Geda - and it's quite powerful these days. Moses ___ Emc-users mailin

Re: [Emc-users] ConFusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 at 17:49, Rafael Skodlar wrote: > Anybody or a company that is so narrow minded to produce their software > product for one crappy OS is STUPID! Fusion also runs on Mac OS. (Which is based on BSD, so a Linux port would be easy, if they chose to do it) -- atp "A motorcycle

Re: [Emc-users] ConFusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Chris Albertson
I second that. Eagle used to be the only one that was stable and had a decent library. Then KiCAD gained a source of development funding with CERN (yhe European physics lab) and they added some paid developers and KiCAD "took off". They leap frogged Eagle in only a couple years. But Eagle was

Re: [Emc-users] ConFusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Chris Albertson
Actually, Fusion already runs on a Linux machine, Make a VM with Window 10 in the Linux computer then put Fusion on the VM. It runs very close to native speed. I was able to get an older copy of Mac OS to run on the VM under Linux but it was not practical, only useful for saying "look at this"

Re: [Emc-users] ConFusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 at 19:45, Chris Albertson wrote: > > Actually, Fusion already runs on a Linux machine, Make a VM with Window 10 > in the Linux computer then put Fusion on the VM. But how much does a Windows 10 Licence cost? It seems to be around £189 (for a full retail rathe than OEM version)

Re: [Emc-users] problem DH parameters manipulator arm

2019-03-23 Thread Chris Albertson
The problem to besolvedis that you need both forward and inverse kinematics. Forward is where you have a set of joint angles and you want to know the location and orientation of the end of the arm.This is easy for most people who still remember trigonometry from high school. If not go to Kha

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Bruce Layne
On 3/23/19 12:52 PM, Greg Bernard wrote: > As an Autocad user for 25 years, I can say the issue of file formats not > being backward compatible is really not a significant problem. All Autocad > versions have the option of saving the file in an older .dwg or .dxf > format. There may be some minor

Re: [Emc-users] ConFusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Chris Albertson
On Sat, Mar 23, 2019 at 12:56 PM andy pugh wrote: > On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 at 19:45, Chris Albertson > wrote: > > > > Actually, Fusion already runs on a Linux machine, Make a VM with Window > 10 > > in the Linux computer then put Fusion on the VM. > > But how much does a Windows 10 Licence cost? It

Re: [Emc-users] ConFusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Les Newell
Hi Andy, (Which is based on BSD, so a Linux port would be easy, if they chose to do it) Porting closed  source code to Linux is very difficult to do. Windows and Mac have consistent libraries. I can take a binary that was written for Win2K and run it on Win10. Conversely I can build a progra

Re: [Emc-users] ConFusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Chris Albertson
There are ways around this and it might make sense to distribute your software in a portable way. Years ago "everything" was distributed as source code file with instructions that read "edit the Makefile as required then type "Make install" as root.Then we saw Autotools which could edit the

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Lester Caine
On 23/03/2019 15:26, Gene Heskett wrote: Luverly. Good thing I'm not a job shop. One thing nice about LCNC, clicking on that connectors first move in the backplot, highlights the code line, making it easy to see where in a mass of code, that connector exists. If its nothing but the hole size, a h

Re: [Emc-users] ConFusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Greg Bernard
"The biggest problem with the beginners free trial is that its way too short, and a couple of them are downright insulting in their insistence to sell you a real licence when the 30 days has expired, Draftsight and Solidworks are both guilty of the extreme hard sell." I haven't found that true wit

Re: [Emc-users] ConFusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/23/2019 01:34 PM, Moses McKnight wrote: On 3/23/19 1:16 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: ... Gotta learn geda and friends I guess. If you're trying EDA software, I found Kicad to be far easier to learn and use than Eagle or Geda - and it's quite powerful these days. I still run an expensive

[Emc-users] Jog pins not showing in HAL configuration

2019-03-23 Thread Dave Matthews
I am trying to set up a custom panel with jog buttons. When I tried to connect the buttons on the panel I got an error that halui.0.jog.minus was not found. I looked and none of the jog pins are showing in the HAL configuration. The only pins with jog in them are axis and joint pins. cncuser@Deb

Re: [Emc-users] EDA Software (Was: ConFusion 360)

2019-03-23 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 at 21:32, Jon Elson wrote: > I inherited the CRAMPS board from Charles Steinkuehler, > which he designed in Kicad. While Kicad is not quite up to > the level of Protel99, it definitely is getting close. The STMBL project uses KiCAD. (Though they started with Eagle I think) A

Re: [Emc-users] Jog pins not showing in HAL configuration

2019-03-23 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 at 21:32, Dave Matthews wrote: > > I am trying to set up a custom panel with jog buttons. When I tried > to connect the buttons on the panel I got an error that > halui.0.jog.minus was not found. I looked and none of the jog pins > are showing in the HAL configuration. Do yo

Re: [Emc-users] Jog pins not showing in HAL configuration

2019-03-23 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 at 21:39, andy pugh wrote: > Do you have any halui pins at all? Ignore that last message, I just looked at the screenshot. Are there any jog pins if you expand the "axis" and "joint' branches of the pin name tree? -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attach

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/23/2019 11:52 AM, Greg Bernard wrote: Now that I'm retired and no longer have access to Autocad I'm using Draftsight for all of my 2d work which is practically indistinguishable from Autocad with the advantage of being free and running on Linux. Wow, you need to read this web page : https

Re: [Emc-users] Jog pins not showing in HAL configuration

2019-03-23 Thread Dewey Garrett
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/master/html/getting-started/updating-linuxcnc.html#_halui -- Dewey Garrett ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users

Re: [Emc-users] Jog pins not showing in HAL configuration

2019-03-23 Thread Dave Matthews
Thanks. I guess the example I was watching is out of date. Would that make halui.axis.x.minus and halui.axis.x.plus the correct pins to use to implement jogging now? Dave On Sat, Mar 23, 2019 at 5:50 PM Dewey Garrett wrote: > > > > http://linuxcnc.org/docs/master/html/getting-started/updating

Re: [Emc-users] Jog pins not showing in HAL configuration

2019-03-23 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 at 21:58, Dave Matthews wrote: > > Thanks. I guess the example I was watching is out of date. Would > that make halui.axis.x.minus and halui.axis.x.plus the correct pins > to use to implement jogging now? You probably want to link to both the joint and the axis jog pins, if

Re: [Emc-users] ConFusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Chris Albertson
On Sat, Mar 23, 2019 at 2:04 PM Greg Bernard wrote: > "The biggest problem with the beginners free trial is that its way too > short, and a couple of them are downright insulting in their insistence > to sell you a real licence when the 30 days has expired, Draftsight and > Solidworks are both gu

Re: [Emc-users] ConFusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Lester Caine
On 23/03/2019 21:30, Jon Elson wrote: If you're trying EDA software, I found Kicad to be far easier to learn and use than Eagle or Geda - and it's quite powerful these days. I still run an expensive licensed version of Protel99 SE. It has a few quirks, but is quite solid and the schematic vs.

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Greg Bernard
Basically, it says if you download their 2019 Draftsight version, you will no longer be able to use any older version, and all free versions will cease to work after 12/31/2019. They are not clear on what happens with Mac and Linux versions, but it doesn't sound good. I was all excited to hear abo

Re: [Emc-users] ConFusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
If you have Windows 7 or 8 installed you can upgrade for free. Find the gatherosstate.exe file on the Windows 10 disc or ISO. Copy it to the desktop and run it. Copy the genuineticket file it creates somewhere off the computer. Now you can erase the installed Windows and do a clean install of 10

Re: [Emc-users] ConFusion 360 - distributing closed source code

2019-03-23 Thread Les Newell
Docker and appimage basically rely on packaging as many libraries as possible and hoping for the best. Even then if you rely on newer versions of libc or libstcc++ than your target distro you are SOL. If your application relies on C++11 or C++17 features you can't just build it on an old system

Re: [Emc-users] EDA Software (Was: ConFusion 360)

2019-03-23 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
What I've been wanting someone to make are screw terminal breakout boards for Pololu or StepStick sockets so that Step, Dir, Enable etc connections can be made to bigger external motor drivers from a CRAMPS, RAMPS and any other small control board made for use with those little drivers. On S

Re: [Emc-users] ConFusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Bruce Layne
On 3/23/19 7:11 PM, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote: > Dunno why Microsoft cannot stop re-breaking things in Windows 10 after > they've fixed them. The RTM release had major problems with a large number of > laptop WiFi adapters. Took them almost a year to put out a fix, which they > had to

[Emc-users] Wish me luck. I am downloading v.18 of freecad as src, gonna see if I can build a 32 bit version

2019-03-23 Thread Gene Heskett
Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users

Re: [Emc-users] Wish me luck. I am downloading v.18 of freecad as src, gonna see if I can build a 32 bit version

2019-03-23 Thread Przemek Klosowski
GOod luck---this one uses a lot of libraries... On Sat, Mar 23, 2019 at 9:39 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > Cheers, Gene Heskett > -- > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author) > Genes Web page

Re: [Emc-users] Wish me luck. I am downloading v.18 of freecad as src, gonna see if I can build a 32 bit version

2019-03-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 23 March 2019 21:37:05 Gene Heskett wrote: Too many missing or miss-matched name to name-dev bits an pieces. Often the file is newer than file-dev, which make very little sense??? So it doesn't appear to be buildable on an older 32 bit system. > Cheers, Gene Heskett Cheers, Gene H

Re: [Emc-users] Wish me luck. I am downloading v.18 of freecad as src, gonna see if I can build a 32 bit version

2019-03-23 Thread Chris Albertson
Would be faster to dumpster dive a PC. I doubt you'd ever get a modern CAD app to compile on a small ARM-based board. It would take weeks of work Don't you have a good Linux PC with at least an i7 processor? 3D CAD, even if you could get it to build on low-end hardware would be horrible to us

[Emc-users] pololu breakout

2019-03-23 Thread TJoseph Powderly
Gregg Eshelman hello Do you imagine the breakout to use the long legged dip raft ? with added screw terminals ( maybe phoenix pluggable connectors ) ? I imagine similar for the PICnc project but i think i will remove the dip sockets on main board and add the phoenix style green sockets to the mai

Re: [Emc-users] ConFusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Rafael Skodlar
Sorry Les, but ... On 3/23/19 1:37 PM, Les Newell wrote: Hi Andy, (Which is based on BSD, so a Linux port would be easy, if they chose to do it) Porting closed  source code to Linux is very difficult to do. Windows Is this a mailing list about LinuxCNC or windows crap?! I run "stock trad

Re: [Emc-users] ConFusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Chris Albertson
Almost all of this Windows BS goes away if you run Windows in a VM.The easy and secure way to run Windows is to first install Linux (or use Mac OS if on a Mac) and then a VM and then Windows.Then it does not need video or wifi drivers and you can snapshot the new Windows 10 install and late

Re: [Emc-users] EDA Software (Was: ConFusion 360)

2019-03-23 Thread Alan Condit
Gregg, This isn’t exactly what you were asking for, but it might work. CRAMPS-BOB3-a3 It is for the CRAMPS board. Instead of the step/dir/common pins going to a Polulu board, the are shipped over to the output connector on the CRAMPS board. So you

Re: [Emc-users] Wish me luck. I am downloading v.18 of freecad as src, gonna see if I can build a 32 bit version

2019-03-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 23 March 2019 22:28:48 Chris Albertson wrote: > Would be faster to dumpster dive a PC. I doubt you'd ever get a > modern CAD app to compile on a small ARM-based board. It would take > weeks of work > This is an 10 yo 2.1 GHz quad core phenom, and I know its too slow. There are qua

Re: [Emc-users] Wish me luck. I am downloading v.18 of freecad as src, gonna see if I can build a 32 bit version

2019-03-23 Thread Bruce Layne
I decided to install FreeCAD 0.18 to get the latest and greatest FreeCAM.  Thanks for the encouragement, Lester. I'm running Ubuntu so I didn't need to compile anything.  There's a FreeCAD daily repository for Ubuntu.  Details are here: https://launchpad.net/~freecad-maintainers/+archive/ubuntu/f