On 24 Jan 2013, at 21:49, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/24/2013 12:19 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
Bruno,
What is meant by the informational interpretations? Is that
something like the one Ron Garrett presented?
It's the view most advocated by Asher and Fuchs, that the WF is just
an encoding of
It's a fascinating idea.
Groups selection seems to be a controversial issue with biologists, but it
makes sense to me that evolution could work at the colony level, the same
way it does for social insects. Even more easily, because bacteria
reproduce asexually.
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 9:55 PM,
Hi John Clark,
Other than Luther's ancient views on astronomy, and only with regard to
salvation or damnation, as a modern Lutheran I agree with everything Luther
said,
although I might temper down his invective, which was intended for the Pope.
In that spirit, everything Luther said was correct
Hi Alberto G. Corona
Luther wasn't a rationalist, and so contributed nothing to modern science.
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2013/1/24 meekerdb
Hi Bruno Marchal
Separated, yes. But accesible to all IMHO.
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On 24 Jan 2013, at 09:48, Roger Clough wrote:
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Hi John Clark
If you want to learn about science, study Darwin, etc.
If you want to learn about God, read the Bible.
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Hi Roger:
Luther contributed indirectly to modern science by adopting the Duns Scoto
and the Occam rejection of universals. The Lutheran mindset was more
concentrated in the study of particular phisical things and rejected
speculation This gave the modern meaning of the world science.
(I will
Hi Telmo.
Group selection It is no longer controversial. Naive group selection do not
work, but selection between groups where internal deletereous behaviours
are repressed to a certan level (but never eliminated) does work. The
theory is called multilevel selection. where selection operates at
Hi Stathis Papaioannou
I think right-to-lifers are those with some moral or religious foundation
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30771408/ns/us_news-life/t/majority-americans-now-pro-life-poll-says/#.UQKkI2cUBlM
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I think that meditation is a way of cutting out the
links of consciousness to the noise of the brain,
suggesting that Cs is not a product of the brain,
rather the reverse. It lets us experience Cs
as it really is, cosmic, free of the brain.
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I did transcendental meditation for years. I learned two things:
1. That pure Cs is sweet, one gets to a sweet spot after a few minutes.
2. That the deeper you go, the faster time seems to fly by.
When you get very deep, there is no time, the meditation occurs in an instant.
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On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
how do you define the word religion?
re·li·gion [ri-lij-uhn]
1* n.* A theological fungus that thrives best in the dark and when fed by
bullshit.
2 Believing what you know ain't so.
3 The boast of the man who is too lazy to
Hi Alberto,
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Telmo.
Group selection It is no longer controversial. Naive group selection do
not work, but selection between groups where internal deletereous
behaviours are repressed to a certan level (but never
Hi Roger,
Where did you learn to do TM?
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
I did transcendental meditation for years. I learned two things:
1. That pure Cs is sweet, one gets to a sweet spot after a few minutes.
2. That the deeper you go, the faster
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Hi Telmo,
On 24 Jan 2013, at 16:17, Telmo Menezes wrote:
Hi all,
I was thinking about meditation and how people report experiences of
oneness with the universe, non separation, etc.
Meditation is a process of
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Other than Luther's ancient views on astronomy,
How about Luther's views on geology? How about his view that the Earth was
less than six thousand years old, do you agree with that?
as a modern Lutheran
Which apparently is
Dear Bruno,
Have you seen this? What implications does it have?
http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1301/1301.5340.pdf
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Hi John Clark
No, I let science be science and religion be religion.
Different languages, different meanings. You're confusing the two.
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Hi Telmo Menezes
From a local TM group. It really works,
but now that I've gone back to Christianity
I no longer use it.
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Hi Telmo Menezes
There is also something called centering prayer, which
Christians such as I can do and have done at least once.
It was helpful to do it in the prayer chamber of the National
Cathedral.
There are various techniques of doing it.
But the general idea is to focus on God or Jesus
Thanks Roger. I've been intrigued for a while, partly because David Lynch
promotes it.
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Hi Telmo Menezes
From a local TM group. It really works,
but now that I've gone back to Christianity
I no longer use it.
On Friday, January 25, 2013 6:44:14 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 24 Jan 2013, at 21:49, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/24/2013 12:19 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
Bruno,
What is meant by the informational interpretations? Is that something
like the one Ron Garrett presented?
It's the view
Hi Roger,
It's not going to work, but it's very nice of you to try to save me since
you believe in it. My in-laws do the same :)
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Hi Telmo Menezes
There is also something called centering prayer, which
Christians such
On Thursday, January 24, 2013 11:46:14 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
On 1/24/2013 8:43 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
I don't know that not being able to talk to others about your (non)
religious beliefs would be cause for suicide though.
Not a cause, just the absence of a little prevention.
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
the Bible provided western man with a completely new, revolutionary view
of existence
New?! The Bible is just a rehash of other Bronze age myths that it
plagiarized from older religions.
The Persian God Mithra, popular in 600 BC,
On Friday, January 25, 2013 1:59:53 PM UTC-5, rclough wrote:
Hi John Clark
That's all made-up stuff put on the web by people such as you.
Not by the worldwide liberal conspiracy?
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On 24 Jan 2013, at 22:03, Jason Resch wrote:
John,
I agree with Craig. The concept of divine simplicity exists in
several religions ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_simplicity ).
The book by O'Meara on Plotinus makes clear the idea that Plotinus
want the ONE to be simple.
The ONE
On 24 Jan 2013, at 22:19, John Clark wrote:
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
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I agree with Craig. The concept of divine simplicity exists in
several religions
And in those religions how did a simpleton God make life? Darwin
provided the
On 24 Jan 2013, at 22:41, John Mikes wrote:
Bruno:
WHAT 'evidences'???
I don't see what you are talking about. The word evidences does not
appear in the quote.
we have no way to judge them.
We can bet on relations between them.
We either accept the (belief-based) figment as
On Friday, January 25, 2013 2:16:02 PM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 24 Jan 2013, at 22:03, Jason Resch wrote:
John,
I agree with Craig. The concept of divine simplicity exists in several
religions ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_simplicity ).
Little numbers can develop
On 24 Jan 2013, at 17:33, Richard Ruquist wrote:
This is exactly what happened to Islam in the 1300s.
After the fundamentalists took over, rationality was dispensed with,
and centuries of scientific progress were deemed sufficient for Islam
for all time. And so it seems that Islam went from
On 24 Jan 2013, at 17:50, Richard Ruquist wrote:
I once had the experience of oneness with the universe.
As an almost teenager one winter I was sliding in an apple orchard
1/2 mile from home. It was so much fun that even after nightfall and
everybody else going home, I continued sliding down
On 24 Jan 2013, at 18:18, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Thursday, January 24, 2013 11:50:39 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 23 Jan 2013, at 16:49, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Wednesday, January 23, 2013 10:31:18 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal
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On 22 Jan 2013, at 21:34, Craig Weinberg
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
the ancient jews in the BC era knew nothing
Not far from the truth.
of the ancient myths,
If they knew anything at all it was useless crap like that.
“There is little notice of the Persian god [Mithra] in the Roman world
On 1/25/2013 4:14 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi John Clark,
Other than Luther's ancient views on astronomy, and only with regard to
salvation or damnation, as a modern Lutheran I agree with everything Luther
said,
although I might temper down his invective, which was intended for the Pope.
In that
On 1/25/2013 8:22 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
Even the idea that we are unconscious during deep sleep does not convince me. We could
be conscious but without read/write access to our memories, so how would we know
afterwords? But maybe we are experiencing the same level of consciousness as a
Abortion should eventually be self-limiting,
because it improves the gene pool.
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On Friday, January 25, 2013 3:45:35 PM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 24 Jan 2013, at 18:18, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Thursday, January 24, 2013 11:50:39 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 23 Jan 2013, at 16:49, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Wednesday, January 23, 2013 10:31:18 AM UTC-5,
On Friday, January 25, 2013 7:09:12 PM UTC-5, rclough wrote:
Abortion should eventually be self-limiting,
because it improves the gene pool.
Only if you assume that the events of people's lives are hereditary. Only
bad people have sex or get raped I guess. Only people who deserve to
Search on this list turned up no results and I don't usually pick up this
sort of thing so:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperloop
If anybody could offer juicier links without the media speculation, I'd be
interested in the tech.
PGC
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Very interesting. It sounds almost too good to be true. I can't
imagine what it might be based on.
For me, the most surpurising thing he says is that it could be solar
powered but does not use a vacuum.
Jason
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On 1/25/2013 9:54 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
Search on this list turned up no results and I don't usually pick up
this sort of thing so:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperloop
If anybody could offer juicier links without the media speculation,
I'd be interested in the tech.
PGC
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
With faith you have any belief you want.
Brent
³We were convinced that the people need and require this faith. We have
therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not
merely with a few theoretical
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