Hi meekerdb
The killing of anybody is wrong.
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On 1/27/2013 3:28 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi meekerdb
Germany has always been antisemit
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 Roger Clough wrote:
> Germany has always been antisemitic
>
Thanks to that pioneering antisemitic crusader, Martin Luther.
> Hitler just organized the killing jews,
And the writings of Luther and Hitler on the Jews are almost
indistinguishable, if you didn't know you'd b
OK, careless connotation. JM
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
> Hi John Mikes
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> Luther did not motivate anybody to kill jews.
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On Sunday, January 27, 2013 5:58:15 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote:
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> Hi John Mikes
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> Luther did not motivate anybody to kill jews.
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Why would you think that could possibly be true?
If the head of Coca-Cola began a weekly TV program about how your house
should be burned down, and th
Hi meekerdb
Germany has always been antisemitic, Hitler just organized the killing
jews, who unfortunately were also socialists/communists
but anyway, Luther's writings were done somewhat
obscurely in the 16th century.
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Hi John Mikes
Luther did not motivate anybody to kill jews.
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Subject: Re: Martin Luther on Rationality
Brent:
you do beware of the "leader" - "follower" position. If a leader ac
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 Roger Clough wrote:
> 1. Luther hated jews, but he had nothing to do with the extermination of
> the jews.
>
By his own words Luther advocated stupidity, and now you admit he was a
hate filled racist demagog; so the man was stupid and the man was evil. So
I repeat my earlie
On Saturday, January 26, 2013 6:25:40 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote:
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> Hi meekerdb
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> 1. Luther hated jews, but he had nothing to do with the extermination of
> the jews.
>
"In 1543 Luther published *On the Jews and Their Lies* in which he says
that the Jews are a "base, whoring people, that i
Hi Bruno Marchal
Theology (beliefs) is objective and rational, but religiouis experience (faith)
is subjective.
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Hi meekerdb
1. Luther hated jews, but he had nothing to do with the extermination of the
jews.
2. You have to have faith in God, not somethning else.
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On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 Roger Clough wrote:
> the ancient jews in the BC era knew nothing
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Not far from the truth.
> of the ancient myths,
>
If they knew anything at all it was useless crap like that.
> “There is little notice of the Persian god [Mithra] in the Roman world
> until the beginnin
On Friday, January 25, 2013 1:59:53 PM UTC-5, rclough wrote:
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> Hi John Clark
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> That's all made-up stuff put on the web by people such as you.
>
Not by the worldwide liberal conspiracy?
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On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 Roger Clough wrote:
> the Bible provided western man with a completely new, revolutionary view
> of existence
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New?! The Bible is just a rehash of other Bronze age myths that it
plagiarized from older religions.
The Persian God Mithra, popular in 600 BC, was the son of the
Hi John Clark
No, I let science be science and religion be religion.
Different languages, different meanings. You're confusing the two.
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On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 Roger Clough wrote:
> Other than Luther's ancient views on astronomy,
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How about Luther's views on geology? How about his view that the Earth was
less than six thousand years old, do you agree with that?
> as a modern Lutheran
Which apparently is nearly identical to a
Hi meekerdb
Yes, and science first thought that germs spontaneously
were generated like worms in decaying material. And
Aruistotle thought that there were celestial spheres.
And blood-letting was a healthy thing to do.
Etc.
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Hi meekerdb
I completely disagree. Regardless of the Church,
which is a human activity, the Bible provided western man
with a completely new, revolutionary view of existence that
has become the basis for science.
The Bible, as far as I know, is the only sacred scripture
that is choronological
Hi Roger:
Luther contributed indirectly to modern science by adopting the Duns Scoto
and the Occam rejection of universals. The Lutheran mindset was more
concentrated in the study of particular phisical things and rejected
speculation This gave the modern meaning of the world science.
(I will not
Hi Alberto G. Corona
Luther wasn't a rationalist, and so contributed nothing to modern science.
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2013/1/24 meekerdb
On 1/
Hi John Clark,
Other than Luther's ancient views on astronomy, and only with regard to
salvation or damnation, as a modern Lutheran I agree with everything Luther
said,
although I might temper down his invective, which was intended for the Pope.
In that spirit, everything Luther said was correct
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