Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

On Tuesday, May 21, 2019 at 4:34:12 AM UTC-5, Cosmin Visan wrote: > > If Higgs Boson were real, it should be *very very* easy to show it. So > show it to me. > Well here they are: [image: CMS second Higgs data.jpg] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Allah: the One and Only Deity

I have just read several messages on various threads in this list about God. I really don't know which one to answer to, nor do I wish to debate the subject. It is God to choose and guide whoever He wills; I can only keep my duty by sharing the ayaat of The Quran and the knowledge I learn

Re: Aeon: "AIs should have the same ethical protections as animals"

> On 20 May 2019, at 21:57, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 5/20/2019 3:29 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> For the loss of it, I will have to read the 3p report “the guy teleported >> himself to Mars and die”. For the change of consciousness, well, if you wake >> up on

Re: for Cosmin

> On 19 May 2019, at 20:41, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Sunday, May 19, 2019 at 12:11:11 PM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 16 May 2019, at 12:25, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, May 16, 2019 at 4:44:48 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 14 May 2019, at

Re: Aeon: "AIs should have the same ethical protections as animals"

> On 20 May 2019, at 21:35, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 5/20/2019 3:23 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> On 17 May 2019, at 22:52, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5/17/2019 7:01 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: No, with

Re: Precision

> On 20 May 2019, at 01:15, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > On Sunday, May 19, 2019 at 10:37:31 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 17 May 2019, at 09:04, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> On Thursday, May 16, 2019 at 6:13:37 PM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> On Thursday, May 16, 2019

Re: for Cosmin

> On 20 May 2019, at 11:13, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List > wrote: > > They are synonymous. Look at Berkeley or Locke to see how they use the word > "idea". That's where also "idealism" comes from. Experience concerns the soul, or the first person. Mind and ideas are more general. The

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

> On 19 May 2019, at 09:11, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 4:45 PM Russell Standish > wrote: > On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 04:12:00PM +1000, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 10:27 AM Russell Standish > >

Re: for Cosmin

Derive red from there. On Tuesday, 21 May 2019 10:18:01 UTC+3, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > We accept the arithmetical reality (we postulate “2+2=4” & Co., and > derive experience and ideas from there. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

> On 20 May 2019, at 20:29, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 5/20/2019 2:13 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> There is not one evidence fro any primitive matter. Physics predicts well, >> and indeed, > > Which is very strong evidence for physical matter. Yes, but not for

Re: for Cosmin

On Tuesday, May 21, 2019 at 2:13:20 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > I don’t see how, nor why, we could associate experience with matter. Then > with mechanism, we have to explain the appearance of matter from the > universal numbers and their relations. Materialism requires non-mechanism.

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

> On 19 May 2019, at 02:27, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 10:47:36PM +1000, Bruce Kellett wrote: >> On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 10:14 PM Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>On 16 May 2019, at 03:27, Bruce Kellett wrote: >> >>On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 12:59 AM Bruno

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

> On 19 May 2019, at 08:45, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 04:12:00PM +1000, Bruce Kellett wrote: >> On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 10:27 AM Russell Standish >> wrote: >> >>On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 10:47:36PM +1000, Bruce Kellett wrote: >>> On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 10:14 PM

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

Well if you manage to get 4... I will be impressed. Le mar. 21 mai 2019 à 10:27, Quentin Anciaux a écrit : > Ok, let's have you 1 trials... on these 1 trials, you should do > way better than pure luck... can you ? > > So I have a list of 1 random generated number between 0 and

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

> On 20 May 2019, at 19:15, John Clark wrote: > > On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 10:35 AM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > > No, we can’t detect consciousness. I was saying that today positivisme is > > abandoned. It is the idea that we have to abandon the concept of > >

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

> On 20 May 2019, at 20:25, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 5/20/2019 2:06 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 17 May 2019, at 08:56, Telmo Menezes >> > wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, May 11, 2019, at 00:02, Bruce Kellett wrote:

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

> On 20 May 2019, at 21:17, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 5/20/2019 2:59 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> On 17 May 2019, at 23:24, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5/17/2019 5:10 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > On 16 May 2019, at

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

If Higgs Boson were real, it should be *very very* easy to show it. So show it to me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

> On 20 May 2019, at 22:15, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 4:28 AM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > > (Have you study this: that part took me 30 years of work. It is not obvious, > nor is Goldblatt paper obvious). If you study the work (mine and

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

> On 21 May 2019, at 01:52, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Sunday, May 19, 2019 at 12:12:13 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 10:27 AM Russell Standish > wrote: > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 10:47:36PM +1000, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 10:14 PM Bruno Marchal

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

Of course they are real as breathing. Only because you lie to yourself when you have a telepathy, it doesn't mean that it wasn't telepathy. In the same way when you are ugly and girls don't want you, it doesn't matter if you lie to yourself telling that girls cannot see your remarkable

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

> On 20 May 2019, at 21:10, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 5/20/2019 2:50 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> On 17 May 2019, at 23:18, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5/17/2019 5:05 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > On 16 May 2019, at

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

That's you who says that telepathy is self evident and common... if it so common, it should be *very very* easy to display such a feature... so stop dodging and show us. Le mar. 21 mai 2019 à 11:17, Quentin Anciaux a écrit : > >

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

What about color red ? On Friday, 17 May 2019 21:36:50 UTC+3, spudb...@aol.com wrote: > > > With mechanism, what exists are the numbers. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: for Cosmin

How does "matter" (which is just an idea in consciousness) provides grounding for anything ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: Is your elbow conscious?

> On 19 May 2019, at 03:34, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 5/18/2019 12:55 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> On Saturday, May 18, 2019 at 2:39:29 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >> >> >> On 5/18/2019 6:37 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> A simulated human brain could describe

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

> Of course they are real as breathing Then show it to us... the only liar I see here is you... live up to your assertion, be brave, display telepathy, propose a test you think is fair that would display it. It's easy, it's like breathing, and it is very easy to show breathing, so show us

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

Telepathy doesn't happen necessarily at will. It only happens when certain conditions are being met. Asking someone to produce telepathy on the spot is like asking him to produce Higgs Boson on the spot. So let's do like this: you produce me a Higgs Boson, and I'll produce you a telepathy. If

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

Ok, I'll give you 1 billiard balls to collide. See if you obtain at least 1 Higgs Boson. If you obtain at least 1, I will believe you that Higgs Bosons exist. On Tuesday, 21 May 2019 11:27:59 UTC+3, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > Ok, let's have you 1 trials... on these 1 trials, you

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

If telepathy is easy and common, it should be as easy to show and replicate and predict as gravity... not as the higgs boson. Le mar. 21 mai 2019 à 12:00, Quentin Anciaux a écrit : > It has been shown with a *valid* statistics... contrary to your *very > very* easy and common telepathy. > > If

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

Where did I say such a thing ? Copy-paste please and show me where I said. On Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:01:03 UTC+3, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > If telepathy is as hard to get a higgs statistics *it is not easy and > common*, that's your assertion that telepathy is easy and common not mine. > --

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

It has been shown with a *valid* statistics... contrary to your *very very* easy and common telepathy. If telepathy is as hard to get a higgs statistics *it is not easy and common*, that's your assertion that telepathy is easy and common not mine. Higgs boson *is not easy* we had to build the

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

I saw once color bambilici, but I never saw it since. Color bambilici is obviously real. But this doesn't mean I can see it again. On Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:05:46 UTC+3, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > > Telepathy is not only real, but is obviously real. > > If it is obvious *everybody* should see

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

https://understandinguncertainty.org/explaining-5-sigma-higgs-how-well-did-they-do Le mar. 21 mai 2019 à 10:42, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> a écrit : > Ok, I'll give you 1 billiard balls to collide. See if you obtain at > least 1 Higgs Boson. If

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

> Telepathy is not only real, but is obviously real. If it is obvious *everybody* should see it, gravity is obvious, gravity is easy to show. > Stating the obvious is not insulting. If a phenomenon is real and you say is not, what else are you if not a irrational dogmatic believer in materialism

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

> On 19 May 2019, at 08:12, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 10:27 AM Russell Standish > wrote: > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 10:47:36PM +1000, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 10:14 PM Bruno Marchal > >

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

Ok, let's have you 1 trials... on these 1 trials, you should do way better than pure luck... can you ? So I have a list of 1 random generated number between 0 and 10^18... gave me a list with 1 numbers and let's see if you have more than 50% of them, it seems fair to me. Le mar.

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

So it is not obviously real and as easy as breathing after all... you just don't live with your assertion, as usual... so it is just big BS. Le mar. 21 mai 2019 à 12:12, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> a écrit : > I saw once color bambilici, but I never saw

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

On Mon, May 20, 2019, at 20:55, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List wrote: > > > On 5/20/2019 2:35 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >>> Physics (and the other sciences) are unreasonably effective at describing >>> and accounting for our experiences. Platonism does not have any runs on the >>> board

Re: Is your elbow conscious?

> On 21 May 2019, at 14:58, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, May 21, 2019 at 6:06:19 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 20 May 2019, at 10:32, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> But I claim that no zillion-processor Intel Core computer (that ultimately >> runs programs

Re: for Cosmin

> On 21 May 2019, at 10:28, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List > wrote: > > Derive red from there. > > On Tuesday, 21 May 2019 10:18:01 UTC+3, Bruno Marchal wrote: > We accept the arithmetical reality (we postulate “2+2=4” & Co., and derive > experience and ideas from there. They appear

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

> On 21 May 2019, at 12:04, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List > wrote: > > What about color red ? As I just explained they belong to the phenomenology of numbers, which is derivable from the addition and multiplication laws, which lead already to Turing universality, and to the theology of

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

> On 21 May 2019, at 13:06, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > > > On Mon, May 20, 2019, at 11:06, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 17 May 2019, at 08:56, Telmo Menezes >> > wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Sat, May 11, 2019, at 00:02, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Fri, May 10, 2019

Re: for Cosmin

> On 21 May 2019, at 12:31, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, May 21, 2019 at 2:13:20 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > I don’t see how, nor why, we could associate experience with matter. Then > with mechanism, we have to explain the appearance of matter from the > universal

Re: Aeon: "AIs should have the same ethical protections as animals"

On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 6:43 PM 'Brent Meeker' < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: *>> You said consciousness is how information feels to be processed. What >> if that information is only 1 bit (like is my hand being burned or not)?* > > > > First, I don't think that's 1bit. Which hand,

Re: Is your elbow conscious?

> On 21 May 2019, at 15:15, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 9:02 PM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > In science, we don’t claim truth, especially on the fundamental reality. We > only try theories, like plausibly Nature itself, through selection,

Re: Is your elbow conscious?

> On 21 May 2019, at 15:46, John Clark wrote: > > On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 8:58 AM Philip Thrift > wrote: > > > (Isn't Hofstadter a joke?) > > Hofstadter wrote the single best book I ever read in my life, "Gödel, Escher, > Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid". > >

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

> On 21 May 2019, at 14:34, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List > wrote: > > And for Bruno, I wonder how the telepathic "radio waves" emitted by such a > poor emitter such as the brain, traveled all this distance. Thanks to the satellite perhaps. More seriously one case is not a statistics.

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

Did you consider that maybe you had recently shared experiences / conversations / whatever that triggered similar dreams? Or that you woke up and saw the facebook message before dreaming but don't remember it? Or... You fight dogmatism precisely by trying to prove to yourself that you are

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

On Mon, May 20, 2019, at 11:06, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 17 May 2019, at 08:56, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> >> On Sat, May 11, 2019, at 00:02, Bruce Kellett wrote: >>> On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 11:42 PM Jason Resch wrote: On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 8:16 AM Bruce Kellett wrote:

Re: for Cosmin

On Tuesday, May 21, 2019 at 5:35:33 AM UTC-5, Cosmin Visan wrote: > > How does "matter" (which is just an idea in consciousness) provides > grounding for anything ? > If everything was consciousness (an ontology of pure experience), then I should be able to astrally project, run around in a

Re: Is your elbow conscious?

On Tuesday, May 21, 2019 at 6:06:19 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 20 May 2019, at 10:32, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > But I claim that no zillion-processor Intel Core computer (that ultimately > runs programs compiled to Intel machine code) can be conscious. I also > claim God

Re: Is your elbow conscious?

On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 9:02 PM Bruno Marchal wrote: > > In science, we don’t claim truth, especially on the fundamental reality. > We only try theories, like plausibly Nature itself, through selection, > mutation, etc. > A good sound instrumentalist position. Instrumentalism is often

Re: Aeon: "AIs should have the same ethical protections as animals"

> On 20 May 2019, at 12:09, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Monday, May 20, 2019 at 5:01:20 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 16 May 2019, at 14:52, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> This is what I call one form of consciousness denial >> >>

Re: Is your elbow conscious?

On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 8:58 AM Philip Thrift wrote: > > *(Isn't Hofstadter a joke?)* > Hofstadter wrote the single best book I ever read in my life, "Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid". > > ” His [Dennett's] position was summarized in an interview in The New > York Times: “The

Re: Is your elbow conscious?

> On 19 May 2019, at 22:39, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Sunday, May 19, 2019 at 2:40:04 PM UTC-5, Jason wrote: > > > On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 1:21 PM Philip Thrift > wrote: > > > On Sunday, May 19, 2019 at 10:13:22 AM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > On 5/19/2019 12:19 AM, Philip Thrift

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

When it occurs it is obvious that it occurred. One such example from my life. I once had a girlfriend from India (I'm from Romania). We met for few weeks in India, and after some months after meeting, I had a dream of traveling with her in Italy and there was a party on the streets with food

Re: Is your elbow conscious?

> On 19 May 2019, at 17:13, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 5/19/2019 12:19 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> On Sunday, May 19, 2019 at 1:50:03 AM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >> >> >> On 5/18/2019 11:25 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> No I can't prove we aren't

Re: Is your elbow conscious?

> On 20 May 2019, at 19:31, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Monday, May 20, 2019 at 10:03:12 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 18 May 2019, at 00:33, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> Isn't qualia can be reduced to information processing the unsupported >> assertion? >> >> The

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

> On 20 May 2019, at 14:18, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > On Monday, May 20, 2019 at 5:55:19 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 16 May 2019, at 14:13, Lawrence Crowell > > wrote: >> >> On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 7:18:47 AM UTC-5, Cosmin Visan wrote: >> I heard there are a couple of

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

The burden of proof lies on you, you're the one claiming there is something, so devise a test that you think is fair that will show stupid persons like us who can't see the obvious, the obvious reality of telepathy... why can't you just propose a test ? I did propose you one... Le mar. 21 mai

Re: for Cosmin

No, you shouldn't. In the same way that you cannot pass the borders of other countries. Not because there is a "physical" wall there, but because other consciousnesses don't allow you. Is the same for more intimate limitations of your own consciousness: other consciousnesses (that you cannot

Re: Is your elbow conscious?

> On 20 May 2019, at 10:32, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Sunday, May 19, 2019 at 6:50:48 PM UTC-5, Jason wrote: > > > On Sunday, May 19, 2019, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > On Sunday, May 19, 2019 at 2:40:04 PM UTC-5, Jason wrote: > > > On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 1:21 PM Philip Thrift

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

> On 20 May 2019, at 14:29, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List > wrote: > > Telepathy happens when you interact with people in real life. Do you interact > with people ? Yes, but that has nit given evidences for telepathy, and even if it did, that would easily be explained by radio waves,

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

It is real like breathing, not easy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

No it is not like breathing, if it was and *obvious* as you state... then *it should be easy to show it*, if it ain't *it is not obvious* and it is not like *breathing* which is obvious. Put your money where your mouth is, show the obvious... Le mar. 21 mai 2019 à 13:45, 'Cosmin Visan' via

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

And for Bruno, I wonder how the telepathic "radio waves" emitted by such a poor emitter such as the brain, traveled all this distance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

Maybe I should have mentioned: not any interaction with people, but special ones. Like for example: Did you ever have a girlfriend ? On Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:34:27 UTC+3, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 20 May 2019, at 14:29, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List < > everyth...@googlegroups.com >

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

On 5/21/2019 2:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: You just invoke your God again, but the whole point of doing science, especially theological or metaphysics is to keep personal conviction out of the research. To use word like “real” is a symptom of pseudo-science/religion. Then stop using

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

That's the essence of it... not to confuse theology and ontology with a search for the truth.. On 5/21/2019 6:32 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 20 May 2019, at 14:18, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: On Monday, May 20, 2019 at 5:55:19 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal

Re: Aeon: "AIs should have the same ethical protections as animals"

On 5/21/2019 12:31 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 20 May 2019, at 21:57, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List wrote: On 5/20/2019 3:29 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: For the loss of it, I will have to read the 3p report “the guy teleported himself to Mars and die”. For the change of

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

No one every said Higgs bosons were common.  In fact the theory that predicted them also predicted that they could only be produced at high energies...and it was right.  You claimed that telepathy was common, as common as interacting with other people. Brent On 5/21/2019 2:34 AM, 'Cosmin

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

Problem is that people that want to believe - and take one seeming "hit", like Cosmin's girl friend story - and don't count dozens or hundreds of total misses. We have hunches, or clues many times per day, if we interact with society or friends at all. We take action on more certain ones, such

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

Indeed, and there are very powerful tests available that should be very attractive to psychics. Take e.g. the case of mediums who claim to be able to tell something about a person's life, via the spirit of deceased family members. In that case one can take, say, 20 volunteers who'll let the

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

The Higgs boson was produced very much "at will".  In fact a lot willing went into it. Brent On 5/21/2019 1:09 AM, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List wrote: Telepathy doesn't happen necessarily at will. It only happens when certain conditions are being met. Asking someone to produce telepathy

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

On 5/21/2019 1:30 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Atheism is radical post-529 christianism. Before 529, theology was still done with the greek method: discussion, theories, experimentation, and changing the theories/definitions each time a contradiction appears. What theological experiments

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

On 5/21/2019 2:06 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: 3)  I don't even know what it would mean for consciousness to be provable, nor why that is relevant. It is part of the axiomatic definition we search. Of course it is the proposition “I am conscious” which is both immediately true and not

Symposium on axioms of consciousness

via Hedda Hassel Mørch @heddamorch https://twitter.com/heddamorch/status/113048705070737817 A lot to read: *On the axiomatic foundations of the integrated information theory of consciousness* Tim Bayne [ https://research.monash.edu/en/persons/timothy-bayne ]

Re: for Cosmin

On Tuesday, May 21, 2019 at 9:30:53 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 21 May 2019, at 12:31, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, May 21, 2019 at 2:13:20 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> I don’t see how, nor why, we could associate experience with matter. Then >> with

Re: Symposium on axioms of consciousness

On 5/21/2019 2:57 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: via Hedda Hassel Mørch @heddamorch https://twitter.com/heddamorch/status/113048705070737817 A lot to read: *On the axiomatic foundations of the integrated information theory of consciousness* Tim Bayne [