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Russell is right, I have been lurking. The wiki is still available and will be for the foreseeable future so you ought not worry about it disappearing without warning. Feel free to add as much content as you wish, the only reason it hasn't become more useful is that participation in article creat

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Wei Dai: > I'm not sure what questionnaire Zen_Ved is referring to, but maybe it's this > paragraph from the mailing list invitation: > > Because this mailing list attracts people from many different academic > fields, and many posts have high technical content, it is suggested that > after join

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y, July 03, 2008 8:49 AM To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: All feedback appreciated - An introduction to Algebraic Physics > to: Wei Dai: > Please: > How can I find your 'Everything-Questionnaire'? (Not that I have the > answers...) > John Mikes > > On T

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to: Wei Dai: Please: How can I find your 'Everything-Questionnaire'? (Not that I have the answers...) John Mikes On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 4:51 AM, Brian Tenneson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why is the universe a subset of the set "information" (which I assume is > defined in the article) and why ca

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Can someone obtain for me the email addresses of the authors? Thank you! Jamie Rose - Original Message From: Zen_Ved <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Everything List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2008 4:42:46 AM Subject: Re: All feedback appreciated - An introduction

Re: All feedback appreciated - An introduction to Algebraic Physics

Brian Tenneson: > Why is the universe a subset of the set "information" (which I assume is > defined in the article) and why can it not be formalized? > > > On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 1:38 AM, Zen_Ved <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > As to "Algebraic Physics"; as well as to Wei Dai's ``every

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Why is the universe a subset of the set "information" (which I assume is defined in the article) and why can it not be formalized? On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 1:38 AM, Zen_Ved <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > As to "Algebraic Physics"; as well as to Wei Dai's ``everything'' > questionnaire: > > - po

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As to "Algebraic Physics"; as well as to Wei Dai's ``everything'' questionnaire: - possibly that it will be rather useful to read http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0703043 , V5 (and the first couple of pages in V1). Note also briefly: the Universe (Universes ) is/are subsets of a very specific set

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Hi Gunther, > thanks for your respone, looking forward to the next round of > stimulating discussion in July :-)) With pleasure, Best, Bruno --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" g

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Le 20-mai-08, à 01:40, Russell Standish a écrit : > > On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 12:32:14PM -0700, Brent Meeker wrote: >> >> Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> ... >>> Zombie are important in philosophy, a bit like zero is important in >>> Number Theory, or like the empty set is important in Set Theory, I >>

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Dear Bruno, thanks for your respone, looking forward to the next round of stimulating discussion in July :-)) Cheers, Günther --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to thi

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On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 12:32:14PM -0700, Brent Meeker wrote: > > Bruno Marchal wrote: > > ... > > Zombie are important in philosophy, a bit like zero is important in > > Number Theory, or like the empty set is important in Set Theory, I > > think. For example, it is easy to show that if Bohm Q

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Bruno Marchal wrote: > ... > Zombie are important in philosophy, a bit like zero is important in > Number Theory, or like the empty set is important in Set Theory, I > think. For example, it is easy to show that if Bohm QM is correct, > then the Everett Universal waves if full of zombies, even

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Hi Bruno, >> Galen Strawson, 'Realistic monism: why physicalism entails >> panpsychism' 2006 >> http://web.gc.cuny.edu/philosophy/people/strawson/rmwpep.pdf > > The author admits himself that his doctrine is more a form of > experential/non-experiential-ist (thus dualist) doctrine. It seems t

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Hi Gunther, On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Günther Greindl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Galen Strawson, 'Realistic monism: why physicalism entails > panpsychism' 2006 > http://web.gc.cuny.edu/philosophy/people/strawson/rmwpep.pdf > The author admits himself that his doctrine is more a for

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Oops. to finish... For all devices x, if x is complex is some sense then x is conscious in some (possibly other) sense. In other words, for all devices x, (a) -logically entails- (b): (a) there is a partition D_t of t such that T(x; R, D_t) = 1 (b) there is a partition (D_t)' of t such that T(x

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Hi Bruno, I mean logical implication and definitely -not- in the sense of production and -most definitely not- causation. I sat down for once and wrote something down and here's basically what the statement of my idea (which could easily be "wrong"): [+1] If x is a (Wolpert) device, then (if "x i

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Le 13-mai-08, à 18:27, Brian Tenneson a écrit : > I must admit to a little hand waving.  OK, maybe a lot. Actually you are not. Not necessarily so, I mean. *I* could have been wrong. Let me explain: When you said: <> I interpreted as: "Randomness causes or produces consciousness". But

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Hi Bruno, I must admit to a little hand waving. OK, maybe a lot. So I shall try some more of it; I think I will practice it in case I ever need to persuade anyone to believe my conjectures are true, false, or neither. What I mean to say, if you will, is actually a slightly (only slightly) more

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Hi Brian, Le 13-mai-08, à 02:00, Brian Tenneson a écrit : > > [...] > To recapitulate, the statement of the idea is this: > [1] > Randomness implies consciousness. I don't see why, or even what this could mean. > The converse appears to be false. Comp (+ Consciousness or just first pers

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Oh, I'd also like to guess that if O(x) means that x is an omniscient device or oracle that the implications go this way: O(x) ==> R([x]) AND O(x) ==> S(x). The second one should be easy to prove while the first, for me, is less obvious and possibly false. Let's suppose that has any bearing on t

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John, On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 12:51 PM, John Mikes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brian, > you can count on me to support you for the verbosity medal. In your > longlong blurb 4 lines are randomly printed, but from the 5th to the 2nd > from bottom there is an empty word-space at ~60% of the lines,

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Brian, you can count on me to support you for the verbosity medal. In your longlong blurb 4 lines are randomly printed, but from the 5th to the 2nd from bottom there is an empty word-space at ~60% of the lines, neetly arranged as an internal (in-text) margin. I admired it. Bruno, btw, is grammatic

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Oops, instead of neither all those times, I think I "needed" to say "none" whatever "need" means in the context of language. On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Brian Tenneson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I find that words and their meaning can have magical properties, despite > this discussion not

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I find that words and their meaning can have magical properties, despite this discussion not seeming to me to have bearing on my article; perhaps a new thread on semantics can be started? It matters not to me. For example, if I say all that is is all that is, then I am not really saying much. On

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JamesTauber wrote: >1) the problem is theirs not ours >vs >2) it is their problem not our problem So, if I understand well, our problems are ours, and their problems are theirs. Thanks for the teaching: I didn't dare to put a "s" on "their", up to now, especially after a plural (but only con

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On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 01:17:30AM -0400, James Tauber wrote: > > James > (who happened to do his undergrad linguistics degree where Russell did > his undergrad physics/maths) > I bow down to your superior knowledge :). To be truthful, my knowledge of English grammar comes entirely from study

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On May 8, 2008, at 5:43 PM, Russell Standish wrote: > "ours" is the word you're looking for. A genitive 1st person plural > adjective. Furthermore, it's the *independent* form of the 1st person plural genitive pronoun. When functioning as a dependent adjective, it's just "our". Compare 1) t

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Le 08-mai-08, à 23:43, Russell Standish a écrit : > > On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 04:12:33PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> after all that is their problem, not us's. (if that is english ... I >> guess not, Hope you see what I mean). >> > > "ours" is the word you're looking for. A genitive 1st perso

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On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 04:31:29PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > > Really? I think Schmidhuber's speed prior concerns intrinsic > computational speed (like when comparing different algorithm). If not, > nothing computational would remains in Schmidhuber's approach. Step 5 > (or even 4) i

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On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 04:12:33PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: > after all that is their problem, not us's. (if that is english ... I > guess not, Hope you see what I mean). > "ours" is the word you're looking for. A genitive 1st person plural adjective. English is a strange language sometimes.

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Le 08-mai-08, à 06:48, Russell Standish a écrit : > > On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 03:40:00PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> even the non computable reals. And, given that from a first person >> point of view we cannot be aware of the infinitely many delays, we >> have to take into account, to el

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Hello Günther, > thanks for the long and informative post. Y're welcome. > >> Hmmm The UDA should just show that, and I am not sure which points >> you are missing. Suppose there is a physical concrete universe and >> that > > I know that I am missing a point somewhere :-) > I have print

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I'm going to go out on a limb here for a second. IF, and that's a big if, the algebraic physics theory is correct (whatever that means in this context), time in my discussion of transition dimensions, which is something I wrote in my notebook about dimensions that doesn't need to correlate to "you

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On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 03:40:00PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > even the non computable reals. And, given that from a first person > point of view we cannot be aware of the infinitely many delays, we > have to take into account, to eliminate white rabbits (or to refute > comp) all the poss

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Indeed, thanks. This has been very interesting. It will take me some time to process this. On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Günther Greindl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear Bruno, > > thanks for the long and informative post. > > > Hmmm The UDA should just show that, and I am not sure whi

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Dear Bruno, thanks for the long and informative post. > Hmmm The UDA should just show that, and I am not sure which points > you are missing. Suppose there is a physical concrete universe and that I know that I am missing a point somewhere :-) I have printed out your post and will work it

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Dear Günther, Le 06-mai-08, à 21:19, Günther Greindl a écrit : > - CRH implies COMP > - COMP implies the negation of CRH > >> Universality, Sigma_1 completeness, m-completness, creativity >> (in Post sense), all those equivalent notion makes sense only through >> complementary notion which are

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Dear Bruno, - CRH implies COMP - COMP implies the negation of CRH > Universality, Sigma_1 completeness, m-completness, creativity >(in Post sense), all those equivalent notion makes sense only through >complementary notion which are strictly sepaking more complex (non RE, productive, ...).

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Jason Resch set it up. I assume he's still lurking on the everything list. Are you still there Jason? On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 10:03:39PM +0200, Günther Greindl wrote: > > Russell, > > Good to know that it's still there :-)) > > > And it hasn't so much died, but rather gone into suspended > > a

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Russell, Good to know that it's still there :-)) > And it hasn't so much died, but rather gone into suspended > animation. It can be found at http://everythingwiki.gcn.cx/wiki/ Do you know who is responsible for it? Before we consider adding entries it would be good to confirm that it won't go

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At the very least, I could register and start wiki-ing -my- posts here before they get anywhere near massive in number, right? OR is it frozen? I think I'm confused on that point. I'd like to have a hyperlinked version of the explanation of Bruno's argument against the CRH. I think the "physica

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On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 12:50:49AM +0200, Günther Greindl wrote: > > There was an everything wiki once, I gather, why did the project die? > Would there be interest on the list in starting a collaboration to get a > wiki going and extract stuff from the archives? > > Cheers, > Günther > It di

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I would be interested in seeing the wiki, if not helping in any (small) way I could. Thank you, Günther. On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Günther Greindl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear Brian, > > Russell Standish has a book summarising some stuff, also many references > at the end (will bring

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Dear Brian, Russell Standish has a book summarising some stuff, also many references at the end (will bring you up to speed on definitions like ASSA/RSSA): http://www.hpcoders.com.au/nothing.html (pdf on that site:http://www.hpcoders.com.au/theory-of-nothing.pdf) Schmidhuber has interesting pa

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;) yes. I know the "book" of the future is an archive like this, but something with a table of contents and index would be pretty sweet. Without such, I have trouble reading books. On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 3:24 PM, nichomachus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You mean, besides the archive of this

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You mean, besides the archive of this list? ;) On May 1, 2:16 pm, "Brian Tenneson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > > I was wondering if there was a tome where all these ideas have been > collected?  I would like to get my hands on such. > > --Brian > > > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:11 PM,

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Hi All, I was wondering if there was a tome where all these ideas have been collected? I would like to get my hands on such. --Brian On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Marchal Bruno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello Günther, > > > > > >> I have already presented an argument (an easy consequ

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Hello Günther, >> I have already presented an argument (an easy consequence of the >> Universal Dovetailer Argument, which is less easy probably) showing that: >> >> - CRH implies COMP >> - COMP implies the negation of CRH >> - Thus, with or without COMP (and with or without the MUH) the CRH

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Dear Bruno, > I have already presented an argument (an easy consequence of the > Universal Dovetailer Argument, which is less easy probably) showing that: > > - CRH implies COMP > - COMP implies the negation of CRH > - Thus, with or without COMP (and with or without the MUH) the CRH does > not

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I believe I found some upgrades. I was going to write all my ideas down but with a deadline, I just wanted to get the basic kernel down by April 30. Here is the latest version: http://www.universalsight.org/conference_abstract/00-01-00.pdf --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Y

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Your feedback is valuable and most appreciated. I'd like to continue learning about the CRH after this gets sent off. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group,

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Le 29-avr.-08, à 13:40, Brian Tenneson a écrit : > Thanks, Bruno.  Feedback from you is quite valuable. > I vaguely recall mentioning somewhere online that I am attempting to > give a contributed talk at this conference: > http://www.mat.unisi.it/~latd2008/ > > I mainly need something to get my

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Thanks, Bruno. Feedback from you is quite valuable. I vaguely recall mentioning somewhere online that I am attempting to give a contributed talk at this conference: http://www.mat.unisi.it/~latd2008/ I mainly need something to get my foot in the door. Now s

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Le 28-avr.-08, à 21:46, Brian Tenneson wrote : > > I will be updating this as time progresses. All versions including > the current and only version, 00-00-04 can be found here: > http://www.universalsight.org/conference_abstract/ > > The current and only version is 00-00-04 which can be downlo

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There was a flaw in version 00-00-04. Version 00-00-05 is now up at http://www.universalsight.org/conference_abstract/ and version 5 can be downloaded directly here: http://www.universalsight.org/conference_abstract/00-00-05.pdf --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received t

All feedback appreciated - An introduction to Algebraic Physics

I will be updating this as time progresses. All versions including the current and only version, 00-00-04 can be found here: http://www.universalsight.org/conference_abstract/ The current and only version is 00-00-04 which can be downloaded directly in pdf format here: http://www.universalsight.