Vaj:
And Bill thanks for trying to elevate me to guru, but you have no clue
what my credentials and authorizations are, because I've never discussed
them with. So stop spreading lies about what you think my credentials
and authorizations might be. It's just a childish uptight game you're
On Jun 3, 2009, at 2:24 AM, emptybill wrote:
And Bill thanks for trying to elevate me to guru, but you have no
clue what my credentials and authorizations are, because I've never
discussed them with. So stop spreading lies about what you think my
credentials and authorizations might be.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote:
On Jun 1, 2009, at 11:36 AM, Randy Meltzer wrote:
Thanks Vaj for saying that. I am not here to do the
pile on Vaj thing. Its just when you make statements
like the shankaracharya order is Vaishnavite and my
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii...@... wrote:
(snip)
Not content with the Robert, my direct memories
of my awful past lives piss on your psychic's
recounting of your own awful past lives posturing,
now emptybill...
(snip)
I'm sorry you didn't appreciate 'My
On Jun 1, 2009, at 11:46 PM, Randy Meltzer wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
Well lets see. I have been to Guru Dev's ashram in Allahabad 4
times. The last time was this past April, but Vasudevanandaji was
not there so it was pretty quiet. I just
On Jun 2, 2009, at 2:58 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine
salsunsh...@... wrote:
On Jun 1, 2009, at 11:36 AM, Randy Meltzer wrote:
Thanks Vaj for saying that. I am not here to do the
pile on Vaj thing. Its just when you make statements
like the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
snip
The facts are that you guys are arguing
about whether an obscure religious sect
worships one imaginary deity or another.
From the outside, without being a part of
that obscure religious sect.
The Shankaracharya order,
Vaj is basically giving the story line doled out by the Frenchman Alain
Danielou. Since he claims to be a Nath guru he can just repeat it
endlessly.
As his posts show, Vaj-duta once again professes to be an insider -
tight with the Shanks as he loves call them. No doubt he must possess
insider
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote:
Vaj is basically giving the story line doled out by the Frenchman Alain
Danielou. Since he claims to be a Nath guru he can just repeat it
endlessly.
As his posts show, Vaj-duta once again professes to be an insider -
On Jun 2, 2009, at 1:21 PM, emptybill wrote:
No doubt, just for Vaj, they must have brushed off Adi-Shankara's
disagreement with Pancharatra theology as discussed in his
Brahmasutra Bhasya. Thus his now it can be told - this is more
insider revelation that only Vaj-duta would claim.
I
...this is more insider revelation that only
Vaj-duta would claim.
Vaj wrote:
It's just a childish uptight game you're playing.
Vaj, why not just read a book on Indian history?
Vishnuism in India came a long time after the
establishment of the Shivaite sect, and after
Shankaracyarya. It's
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote:
Randy
Good to have someone else questioning Vaj's BS.
This guy postures himself here as an american natha-guru
and buddhist dzogchenpa. However, his simplistic identi-
fication of Narayana (as the source of the tm
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@...
wrote:
Randy Meltzer rm108@ wrote:
Any comments Vaj?
I have noticed sometimes at this point the call gets dropped.
Lurk, do *you* stay on the line when the
person on the other end clearly has his dick
out of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote:
Randy
Good to have someone else questioning Vaj's BS.
This guy postures himself here as an american natha-guru and buddhist
dzogchenpa. However, his simplistic identification of Narayana (as the source
of the tm
On Jun 1, 2009, at 1:23 AM, Randy Meltzer wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
Vaj,
Again you make the statement that the tradition is not Shaivite.
On what basis are you saying this? Have you been to Jyotir Math?
Have you been to Guru Dev's ashram in
Let's remind ourselves of how this dispute over
whether the Shankaracharya order is Vaishnavite
or Shivaite began (in post #220372):
-
[Marek wrote:]
Like Judy pointed out, it's totally common for
Indian devotees to extol assumed enlightened saints
and gurus with over the top honorifics,
Vaj wrote:
Because the guru-parampara originates with
Narayana and Shankara was a Vaishnavite...
In the Adwaita parampara, the term Narayana
means, 'man', that is, the Transcendental Person,
the Purusha.
...Sankara, who is regarded as an incarnation
of Siva.
Adwaita Vedanta:
On Jun 1, 2009, at 1:17 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
Lurk, do *you* stay on the line when the
person on the other end clearly has his dick
out of his pants waving it around and saying,
Can you match this, bozo?
I don't know about you, but I tend to get a
little tired of the heavy breathing on the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@...
wrote:
On Jun 1, 2009, at 1:17 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
Lurk, do *you* stay on the line when the
person on the other end clearly has his dick
out of his pants waving it around and saying,
Can you match this, bozo?
I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
Yes, Shankara is a adjective of Shiva and some people do even
consider Shankara an incarnation of Shiva.
FWIW, 'shiva' also is originally an adjective, synonymous
with 'shaMkara'...
On May 31, 2009, at 9:26 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote:
Randy Meltzer rm...@... wrote:
Any comments Vaj?
I have noticed sometimes at this point the call gets dropped.
Depends on a number of things really Lurk. A big one for me is 'what
do I perceive as their underlying intention?'.
Yes, Shankara is a adjective of Shiva and
some people do even consider Shankara an
incarnation of Shiva.
cardemaister wrote:
FWIW, 'shiva' also is originally an adjective,
synonymous with 'shaMkara'...
So, 'Mahesh' means 'Shiva', and 'Shiva' means
'Sankara', all adjectives.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On May 31, 2009, at 9:26 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote:
Randy Meltzer rm108@ wrote:
Any comments Vaj?
I have noticed sometimes at this point the call gets dropped.
Depends on a number of things really Lurk. A
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On May 31, 2009, at 9:26 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote:
Randy Meltzer rm108@ wrote:
Any comments Vaj?
I have noticed sometimes at this point the call gets dropped.
Depends on a number of things really Lurk. A
On Jun 1, 2009, at 12:36 PM, Randy Meltzer wrote:
Depends on a number of things really Lurk. A big one for me is 'what
do I perceive as their underlying intention?'. Another is 'is this
just another pile on post? I'm not a fan of digital rugby. Do I
have enough time and is it worth it? It's
FWIW, I thought the Vajster gave a pretty good replay to emptybill.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@
wrote:
Randy Meltzer rm108@ wrote:
Any comments Vaj?
I have
On Jun 1, 2009, at 11:36 AM, Randy Meltzer wrote:
Thanks Vaj for saying that. I am not here to do the pile on Vaj
thing. Its just when you make statements like the shankaracharya
order is Vaishnavite and my experience is s the oposite I had
to chime in.
I couldn't agree more,
(snip)
Not content with the Robert, my direct memories
of my awful past lives piss on your psychic's
recounting of your own awful past lives posturing,
now emptybill...
(snip)
I'm sorry you didn't appreciate 'My Past Life Story'...Turq...
Perhaps if I draw a tatoo of it, and put in a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
Well lets see. I have been to Guru Dev's ashram in Allahabad 4 times. The
last time was this past April, but Vasudevanandaji was not there so it was
pretty quiet. I just walked around a bit.
There is a beautiful altar in the
On May 30, 2009, at 6:43 PM, Marek Reavis wrote:
Like Judy pointed out, it's totally common for Indian devotees to
extol assumed enlightened saints and gurus with over the top
honorifics, and the idea that one of Maharishi's early followers
gave him that designation out of their own
Vaj wrote:
Sorry to be a stickler but you're assuming
it's honorific without any evidence to
support that. All we truly know is that it's
an alias (esp. since it's not the actual
name on his passport).
Sort of like 'Vaj'? LOL!
But his given name, by all accounts, was
'Mahesh' which
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
snip
While honorifics like 'His Holiness' may be added out
of devotion to one's guru, in Mahesh's instance we
definitely know this was not the case.
We do?
It's important to distinguish between honorifics, like
'His Holiness',
Vaj wrote:
(e.g. Yogananda's guru gave him the title
Paramahamsa indicating that he believed him
to belong to a certain class of yogins, a
paramahamsa)...
According to my sources, Yogananda got the name
'Yogananada' from his master, Sri Yukestwar, but
he got the honorific 'Paramahamsa'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
Vaj,
What makes you think that the shankaracharya tradition is a vaishnavite group?
The shankaracharya order has always been a shiva tradition, not a Vishnu
tradition (vaishnavites are vishnu/krishna followers).
Its obvious even from
Likewise the comment about twice born , it is not only Brahmins that are
twice born
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Randy Meltzer rm...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
Vaj,
What makes you think that the shankaracharya tradition is a vaishnavite
On May 31, 2009, at 11:13 AM, Randy Meltzer wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
Vaj,
What makes you think that the shankaracharya tradition is a
vaishnavite group?
Because the guru-parampara originates with Narayana and Shankara was a
Vaishnavite.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
Yes I have read Bhaja Govindam. Shankara is famous for being an advaita
teacher but also having the ability to have the devotional aspect of bhakti.
Just because he refers to Govinda in that treatise does not make him a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Randy Meltzer rm...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
Yes I have read Bhaja Govindam. Shankara is famous for being an advaita
teacher but also having the ability to have the devotional aspect of bhakti.
Just
On May 31, 2009, at 2:08 PM, Randy Meltzer wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
Yes I have read Bhaja Govindam. Shankara is famous for being an
advaita teacher but also having the ability to have the devotional
aspect of bhakti. Just because he refers
Wasn't Shankara supposed to have been an incarnation
of Shiva?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Randy Meltzer rm...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
Yes I have read Bhaja Govindam. Shankara is famous for being an advaita
teacher but also having
Randy
Good to have someone else questioning Vaj's BS.
This guy postures himself here as an american natha-guru and buddhist
dzogchenpa. However, his simplistic identification of Narayana (as the source
of the tm puja) with the vaishnava sampradaya shows an amazing ignorance.
In reality
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote:
Randy
Good to have someone else questioning Vaj's BS.
This guy postures himself here as an american natha-guru and buddhist
dzogchenpa. However, his simplistic identification of Narayana (as the source
of the tm
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote:
Hey empty bill
Thanks for your words of encouragement. I have already had a previous run in
with Mr. Vaj. When I said in a previous post that as far as I am concerned, I
have experienced pretty much everything Maharishi
Randy Meltzer rm...@... wrote:
Any comments Vaj?
I have noticed sometimes at this point the call gets dropped.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote:
Randy
Good to have someone else questioning Vaj's BS.
snip
Please join us if you can and keep this rabid skunk
under some kind of control by questioning and examining
his every claim and assertion. Odious-vajra-duta had
I feel the same way as Judy about vajraduta.
Vaj is free to speak as he wishes. However his ex-cathedra
pronouncements become more shrill with every challenge to his veracity.
I personally know 35-year meditating american scholars of sankhya- yoga.
I also know tibetan scholar-yogins of
On May 31, 2009, at 7:20 PM, Randy Meltzer wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@...
wrote:
Hey empty bill
Thanks for your words of encouragement. I have already had a
previous run in with Mr. Vaj. When I said in a previous post that
as far as I am
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
snip
I get a kick out of the Empty Bill anti-Vaj posts,
he's very creative in his mixture or lies and facts.
Hopefully you can spot the lies. He's been on a
vendetta ever since I nailed him on some BS he was
pulling.
snip
I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote:
Randy
Good to have someone else questioning Vaj's BS.
snip
Please join us if you can and keep this rabid skunk
under some kind of control by
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 5:50 PM, shukra69 shukr...@yahoo.ca wrote:
Don't think he has an employer to worry about , he would be self employed at
a Colorado Shamballa center or selling paraphenalia
http://www.odiyana.com/contact_us.php
But Vaj says that he has to be very careful to conceal his
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@... wrote:
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 5:50 PM, shukra69 shukr...@... wrote:
Don't think he has an employer to worry about , he would be self employed
at a Colorado Shamballa center or selling paraphenalia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@... wrote:
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 5:50 PM, shukra69 shukr...@... wrote:
Don't think he has an employer to worry about , he would be self employed
at a Colorado Shamballa center or selling paraphenalia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
Vaj,
Again you make the statement that the tradition is not Shaivite.
On what basis are you saying this? Have you been to Jyotir Math? Have you been
to Guru Dev's ashram in Allahabad?
It would seem not. Because if you had been
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote:
I feel the same way as Judy about vajraduta.
Vaj is free to speak as he wishes. However his ex-cathedra
pronouncements become more shrill with every challenge to his veracity.
I personally know 35-year meditating
On May 29, 2009, at 10:59 PM, Marek Reavis wrote:
Jay Randolph Coplin, in his dissertation on the history of the SRM,
writes that in an interview with the then-Shankaracharya of Jyotir
Math, Vasudevananda (the successor to Guru Dev's successor,
Shantanand, and predecessor of the
Like you, I've only read the few chapters of Coplin's dissertation that appear
in a google search. I'd like to read the rest, too.
And these titles, like referring to Guru Dev as His Divinity, all seem to be
purely honorific. I hadn't heard about the use of maharishi as a pathfinder
title,
Vaj, I've got no idea whether Coplin's comment is true, but it's the only thing
I've ever read that explained the origin of the title for Maharishi. And it's
not inconceivable that the honorific was given, in part at least, to reward
Maharishi for his support (political and monetary) of the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavisma...@... wrote:
Like you, I've only read the few chapters of Coplin's
dissertation that appear in a google search. I'd like
to read the rest, too.
And these titles, like referring to Guru Dev as His
Divinity, all seem to be purely
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
Hey Vaj,
I would like to respond to your comment in this post about the bought
shankaracharyas. Please correct me if I am wrong, but I am assumming that you
mean that the Shantinand-VishnuDevand-Vasudevananda line has been somehow
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Randy Meltzer rm...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
Hey Vaj,
I would like to respond to your comment in this post about the bought
shankaracharyas. Please correct me if I am wrong, but I am assumming that
you
Marek wrote:
Vaj, I've got no idea whether Coplin's
comment is true, but it's the only thing
I've ever read that explained the origin
of the title for Maharishi. And it's not
inconceivable that the honorific was
given, in part at least, to reward
Maharishi for his support (political
Vaj wrote:
In fact the Shankaracharya of the south didn't
even know who he was...
You are incorrect, Vaj. According to Paul van
Owen, the Shankaracharya of Sringeri knew
exactly who the Marshy was:
He also emphatically confirmed that in his
opinion - and in the opinion of Shringeri Matha
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote:
Like you, I've only read the few chapters of Coplin's
dissertation that appear in a google search. I'd like
to read the rest, too.
And these
On May 30, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Marek Reavis wrote:
The only thing I ever heard Maharishi say about it was that people
started using it, and he didn't object.
Exactly. So someone must be lying.
On May 30, 2009, at 12:01 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@
wrote:
Like you, I've only read the few chapters of Coplin's
dissertation that appear in a google search. I'd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On May 30, 2009, at 12:01 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@
wrote:
Like you, I've only read the few
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
snip
I think you're missing the point. Is it a self-serving
title, coming from the ego, or one given by the guru or
some institution? Unfortunately, without any official
announcement in the historical record we're forced to
(snip)
It also raises the question of all the other titles like The world's
foremost scientist in the field of consciousness.
(snip)
These titles have more to do with Bevan and John...they are so into titles it's
not even funny...
Bevan especially likes titles...
For some reason, Beaver,
babajii wrote:
...they are so into titles it's not even funny...
You mean titles like 'babajii'?
LOL!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willy...@...
wrote:
babajii wrote:
...they are so into titles it's not even funny...
You mean titles like 'babajii'?
LOL!
Yes, exactly...
I chose the name, not that I made it up...I heard it before...
But, after a while, if I
It also raises the question of all the
other titles like The world's foremost
scientist in the field of consciousness.
Are appellations like these from Mahesh
or from his disciples? I would assume his
disciples, but ones does start to wonder.
At a certain point, a person would
Not necessarily, but that's not the point. However he got the honorific,
Maharishi certainly felt it was appropriate and never demurred. Many agreed
with him and lots didn't.
**
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On May 30, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Marek Reavis
On May 30, 2009, at 3:25 PM, Marek Reavis wrote:
Not necessarily, but that's not the point. However he got the
honorific, Maharishi certainly felt it was appropriate and never
demurred. Many agreed with him and lots didn't.
Sorry to be a stickler but you're assuming it's honorific
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On May 30, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Marek Reavis wrote:
The only thing I ever heard Maharishi say about it was that people
started using it, and he didn't object.
Exactly. So someone must be lying.
Has it ever occurred to
On May 30, 2009, at 5:31 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On May 30, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Marek Reavis wrote:
The only thing I ever heard Maharishi say about it was that people
started using it, and he didn't object.
Exactly. So someone
I just uploaded the Coplin dissertation material to
the Files section. It's under Miscellaneous Writings.
I can't figure out how to make the system send an
announcement to the group, so perhaps someone could
tell Vaj, as he claims not to read my posts.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj
You're right, I am assuming that someone other than Maharishi himself actually
called him that first, and not that he introduced himself as a maharishi. That
being said, I'm not arguing that it was some authority or math that first
honored him with that. Like Judy pointed out, it's totally
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On May 30, 2009, at 3:25 PM, Marek Reavis wrote:
Not necessarily, but that's not the point. However
he got the honorific, Maharishi certainly felt it
was appropriate and never demurred. Many agreed
with him and lots
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willy...@...
wrote:
babajii wrote:
...they are so into titles it's not even funny...
You mean titles like 'babajii'?
LOL!
Yeah, Babaji's a good one...heck anyone can claim he's Babaji...
One I really like though, is the
I want to know who gave him the title *Maharishi* .??
Why does he put his bald head in all the org's emblems.??
I think he was a good meditation teacher, but a very poor Philosophy
teacher.!!
Paradoxicaly, I know many good philosophy teachers who are poor
Yeah, compared to S.N. Goenka, the Marshy is a
sheer genius at meditation! There's a lot of
difference between transcendental meditation
and mood-making with concentration on various
human body parts.
Vaj wrote:
Similar techniques are found in the Shankaracharya
Advaita tradition.
On May 29, 2009, at 12:46 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
Yeah, compared to S.N. Goenka, the Marshy is a
sheer genius at meditation! There's a lot of
difference between transcendental meditation
and mood-making with concentration on various
human body parts.
Vaj wrote:
Similar techniques are
Will Tex,
There is no end to Vaj's bs. Why don't you just ask for validating proof
- as in tradition, text and translation and page? Just allowing him to
name some Sanskrit texts allows him to keep up the bs.
Vaj is no Sanskrit pandita - remember how he added his own words into
direct quotes?
emptybill wrote:
Why don't you just ask for validating proof
- as in tradition, text and translation and
page?
Good idea, Bill!
The Tathagata has the eye transcendent wisdom.
Diamond Sutra:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond_Sutra
Thus shall you think of this fleeting world:
A
On May 29, 2009, at 12:46 PM, Jason wrote:
I want to know who gave him the title *Maharishi* .??
Why does he put his bald head in all the org's emblems.??
I think he was a good meditation teacher, but a very poor
Philosophy teacher.!!
Paradoxicaly, I know many
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On May 29, 2009, at 12:46 PM, Jason wrote:
I want to know who gave him the title *Maharishi* .??
Why does he put his bald head in all the org's emblems.??
I think he was a good meditation teacher, but
(snip)
Hasn't everyone on here, chosen a name for themselves?
R.G.
Jay Randolph Coplin, in his dissertation on the history of the SRM, writes that
in an interview with the then-Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math, Vasudevananda (the
successor to Guru Dev's successor, Shantanand, and predecessor of the current
Shankaracharya, Vishnudevananda, in Shantanand's line) --
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavisma...@... wrote:
Jay Randolph Coplin, in his dissertation on the history of the SRM, writes
that in an interview with the then-Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math,
Vasudevananda (the successor to Guru Dev's successor, Shantanand, and
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