[FairfieldLife] Re: Please Help Us!

2005-07-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry Pete and Akash, Haven't paid any attention , just been deleting it all. Whoever gets the last word only proves stubbornness in my opinion. Wise man. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Judgemental Views

2005-07-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When it comes to all that sort of shit I just skip posts. So you don't mind being lied to. Some of us realize that everything that has *ever*

[FairfieldLife] Re: Judgemental Views

2005-07-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If someone repeatedly posts mistakes or lies, and their facts are repeatedly challenged and corrected, readers will draw their own conclusions about the persons veracity and reliability as a source. I suggest that there

[FairfieldLife] Re: Please Help Us!

2005-07-31 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry Pete and Akash, Haven't paid any attention , just been deleting it all. Whoever gets the last word only proves stubbornness in my opinion.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Judgemental Views

2005-07-31 Thread Robert Gimbel
--Deep stuff! - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If someone repeatedly posts mistakes or lies, and their facts are repeatedly challenged and corrected, readers will draw their own

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Course Fee now $3,000

2005-07-31 Thread Robert Gimbel
-The real question becomes amoung the initiates, sometimes, How much did your mantra cost?, or I don't think I'm doing it right?...or I think I'll start next time?...Can't I just use the number one for a mantra?... --Another real question would be, that if somehow, people started demonstating

[FairfieldLife] maharishi vidya mandir

2005-07-31 Thread sparaig
So is this real? Too grand a gesture for your taste, Unc? http://www.maharishividyamandir.com/ http://www.maharishividyamandir.com/ListofMVM.htm MVM Schools ANDHRA PRADESH Hyderabad, Madnapalli, Rajamundry, Srikakulam, Vizianagaram. ASSAM Guwahati (Silpukhuri, Chandmari, Suraj Nagar),

[FairfieldLife] Re: Re : 'Compassion Vs. Detatchment...'

2005-07-31 Thread Robert Gimbel
--Is it Maharishi's marketing ploy, or the influence of the people who can afford to be around Maharishi; Or, does Maharishi kind of keep safe, in that serious people don't take Maharishi seriously?... and with the influence of the people around Maharishi, there is an attitude of our way or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Re : 'Compassion Vs. Detatchment...'

2005-07-31 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --Is it Maharishi's marketing ploy, or the influence of the people who can afford to be around Maharishi; Or, does Maharishi kind of keep safe, in that serious people don't take Maharishi seriously?... and with

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Course Fee now $3,000

2005-07-31 Thread TurquoiseB
Not really any teaching going on? -Who cares? Who could care? If someone cared, what would they do about it? Exactly. There is no instruction going on because, on some level, the TM organization or Maharishi or both *want* there to be no instruction going on. On one level,

[FairfieldLife] Re: maharishi vidya mandir

2005-07-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So is this real? Too grand a gesture for your taste, Unc? http://www.maharishividyamandir.com/ http://www.maharishividyamandir.com/ListofMVM.htm MVM Schools It would be neat if it were true. But it's just a web

[FairfieldLife] Re: Re : 'Compassion Vs. Detatchment...'

2005-07-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --Is it Maharishi's marketing ploy, or the influence of the people who can afford to be around Maharishi; Or, does Maharishi kind of keep

[FairfieldLife] What if...

2005-07-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What if... What if the subconscious purpose of all the latest TMO activities was, in fact, to shrink the organization down to a nucleus of True Believers who hope to never have to work another day in their lives after

[FairfieldLife] Re: maharishi vidya mandir

2005-07-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So is this real? Too grand a gesture for your taste, Unc? http://www.maharishividyamandir.com/

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Course Fee now $3,000

2005-07-31 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not really any teaching going on? -Who cares? Who could care? If someone cared, what would they do about it? Exactly. There is no instruction going on because, on some level, the TM organization

[FairfieldLife] Interesting version of YS I 4

2005-07-31 Thread cardemaister
The usual version of YS I 4 goes like this: vRtti-saaruupyam *itaratra*. Just heard Bevan-ji utter Maharishi's (?) version, which seems to be: vRtti-saaruupyam itaH; atra. tat = that ; tatra = there itara = other; itaratra = elsewhere To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or

[FairfieldLife] Re: maharishi vidya mandir

2005-07-31 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So is this real? Too grand a gesture for your taste, Unc? http://www.maharishividyamandir.com/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Re : 'Compassion Vs. Detatchment...'

2005-07-31 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --Is it Maharishi's marketing ploy, or the influence of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: maharishi vidya mandir

2005-07-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So is this real? Too grand a gesture for your taste, Unc?

[FairfieldLife] Re: maharishi vidya mandir

2005-07-31 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: maharishi vidya mandir

2005-07-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Show me real documentation. Show me an article from an unbiased

[FairfieldLife] Is this true? Rajas talk of land purchased, new centers launched

2005-07-31 Thread wayback71
If you go to www.globalgoodnews.com/world-peace.html, the article talks at length about all sorts of lands purchased, new centers started across the USA. Does anyone here know, is this stuff true? Where is the money for all this coming from? Is the TMO providing funds, at last? Have the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is this true? Rajas talk of land purchased, new centers launched

2005-07-31 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you go to www.globalgoodnews.com/world-peace.html, the article talks at length about all sorts of lands purchased, new centers started across the USA. Does anyone here know, is this stuff true? Where is the money

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is this true? Rajas talk of land purchased, new centers launched

2005-07-31 Thread wayback71
If you get thur the first several blah blah blah paragrpahs of the article titled Rajas Offer Achievements etc etc, Paul Potter, the raja of NY and area says that 80 acres of land have been purchased near Princeton, NJ, that 12 new centers have been set up.. it sounds as if these are

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is this true? Rajas talk of land purchased, new centers launched

2005-07-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you go to www.globalgoodnews.com/world-peace.html, the article talks at length about all sorts of lands purchased, new centers started

Re: [FairfieldLife] Is this true? Rajas talk of land purchased, new centers launched

2005-07-31 Thread Llundrub
shell game - Original Message - From: wayback71 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 7:06 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Is this true? Rajas talk of land purchased, new centers launched If you go to www.globalgoodnews.com/world-peace.html, the article

[FairfieldLife] Re: Judgemental Views

2005-07-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If an enlightened being were in a forest, waiting for a tree to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: maharishi vidya mandir

2005-07-31 Thread Peter
--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So is this real? Too grand a gesture for your taste, Unc?

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi University of Management

2005-07-31 Thread Llundrub
Hi, I posted a photo of my student loans recently. Here's the figures. 32,000 bucks for MIU education, 10,000 for a year of law school. That makes 42,000 dollars. 15 years of deferment, the loans are now 105,496.38 bucks. If I were to repay them the total amount repayed after 340 payments

Re: [FairfieldLife] What if...

2005-07-31 Thread Peter
--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What if... What if the subconscious purpose of all the latest TMO activities was, in fact, to shrink the organization down to a nucleus of True Believers who hope to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Please Help Us!

2005-07-31 Thread Peter
--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry Pete and Akash, Haven't paid any attention , just been deleting it all. Whoever gets the last word only proves stubbornness in my opinion. Wise man. Ditto

[FairfieldLife] Re: What if...

2005-07-31 Thread wayback71
You are so right. I find myself not wondering about motives any more at all - its' like a soap opera just to sit back and watch it all. But I still seem to be curious about the more mundane details (like are people actually being paid). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: maharishi vidya mandir

2005-07-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately I think you're right Unc. I'm sure the intent is to try to make people think and act one way but the reality of the schools is something quite different. In other words, a con. It's really too bad. This type of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What if...

2005-07-31 Thread Peter
Sure, it's like your favorite soap. You want to know if Sharon really did have John's baby and if Doug found out that he is the secret child of millionaire Sterling Armstrong who has the secret cocain addiction. What's going to happen next? I hate to addmit this, but I'm actually looking forward

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: maharishi vidya mandir

2005-07-31 Thread Peter
--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately I think you're right Unc. I'm sure the intent is to try to make people think and act one way but the reality of the schools is something quite different. In

[FairfieldLife] Re: What if...

2005-07-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What if... What if the subconscious purpose of all the latest TMO activities was, in fact,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What if...

2005-07-31 Thread Llundrub
wayback said You are so right. I find myself not wondering about motives any more at all - its' like a soap opera just to sit back and watch it all. But I still seem to be curious about the more mundane details (like are people actually being paid). It's alot how you try to reason

[FairfieldLife] Re: What if...

2005-07-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure, it's like your favorite soap. You want to know if Sharon really did have John's baby and if Doug found out that he is the secret child of millionaire Sterling Armstrong who has the secret cocain addiction. What's going

[FairfieldLife] Antigravitational effect of vibration!? (Yeah, right!)

2005-07-31 Thread cardemaister
http://www.mysticalsun.com/cymatics/cymatics.html In his research with the tonoscope, Jenny noticed that when the vowels of the ancient languages of Hebrew and Sanskrit were pronounced, the sand took the shape of the written symbols for these vowels, while our modern languages, on the other

[FairfieldLife] Re: maharishi vidya mandir

2005-07-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One example, during the NJ is TM a religion case, was when the prosecution issued a subpoena (sp?) for a certain audio tape that contained a clear reference by Maharishi to TM being a religious practice. Sorry. This wasn't the big New Jersey court

[FairfieldLife] Re: maharishi vidya mandir

2005-07-31 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So is this real? Too grand a gesture for your taste, Unc? http://www.maharishividyamandir.com/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Antigravitational effect of vibration!? (Yeah, right!)

2005-07-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.mysticalsun.com/cymatics/cymatics.html In his research with the tonoscope, Jenny noticed that when the vowels of the ancient languages of Hebrew and Sanskrit were pronounced, the sand took the shape

[FairfieldLife] Appreciation of 'appreciation'

2005-07-31 Thread TurquoiseB
I have to write and thank Tom (I think) for the recent post in which he suggested that at a certain point in one's evol- ution it was possibly more accurate to think of desires as 'appreciation' than it was to think of them as desires. I got a real taste of that yesterday. I drove to Sommieres,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What if...

2005-07-31 Thread Peter
--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure, it's like your favorite soap. You want to know if Sharon really did have John's baby and if Doug found out that he is the secret child of millionaire Sterling Armstrong

Re: [FairfieldLife] Appreciation of 'appreciation'

2005-07-31 Thread Llundrub
- Original Message - From: TurquoiseB To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 8:33 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Appreciation of 'appreciation' It was really cool. And I don't think it would have been ascool if Tom hadn't mentioned what he did about

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: maharishi vidya mandir

2005-07-31 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 7/31/05 5:43:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tell you what...send this web page to the Times Of Indiaand ask them to assign a reporter to checking it out. Itwould be big news, after all -- a guru who "made good"in the outside world coming

[FairfieldLife] Anyone have video now discs etc to part with?

2005-07-31 Thread Camille Nichols
WANTED: Video Now Discs etc. Used okay, without box ok, must work well. We don' have much to spend and have a BW player. We're moving across the country and its a two day+ drive, and my 5 year old would be a lot happier with something to do. I already have the player. Please email if you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reac

2005-07-31 Thread Vaj
On Jul 26, 2005, at 4:40 PM, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote: This is the only sutra in Patanjali that says that Enlightenment is the result of doing this sutra. Very clever. Sutra This also explains what happens to the intellect. Actually after one has perfected viveka-khyati

[FairfieldLife] Re: maharishi vidya mandir

2005-07-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/31/05 5:43:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tell you what...send this web page to the Times Of India and ask them to assign a reporter to checking it out. It would be big

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: maharishi vidya mandir

2005-07-31 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 7/31/05 9:33:48 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But y'know, the funny thing is that I really *would*love to believe that the TMO has done somethingnon-self-serving with its money in all this time. Ithink it would be really *neat* if there

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Course Fee now $3,000

2005-07-31 Thread Peter
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/30/05 10:35:20 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was asked recently to speak a little about TM - It provoked an unpleasant

[FairfieldLife] Re: Judgemental Views

2005-07-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When it comes to all that sort of shit I just skip posts. So

[FairfieldLife] Re: maharishi vidya mandir

2005-07-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't speak for the TMO and the claim of 200 schools, but when I was in Uttar Kashi in the mid 90's there was a Maharishi Vidya mandir or whatever they called it. I was invited with my traveling companion to see the place

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Course Fee now $3,000

2005-07-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quick question, how many here (including TM teachers, former TMteachers, etc) honestly believe that TM is unique, worth the money, etc? Since you asked, my honest answers are: No, I don't believe the technique is

[FairfieldLife] Why is MMY in a hurry.....

2005-07-31 Thread wmurphy77
I know he has stated he was in the past, but has never said why? Isn't anything worthwhile, worth waiting for? Don't quality longlasting institutions take hundreds of years to be established, most Religions have histories of thousands of years to get to the level of acceptance they have today!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Appreciation of 'appreciation'

2005-07-31 Thread feste37
Sounds to me like impotence and approaching old age. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But after a while it struck me that I really *wasn't* being lecherous. Almost *none* of these women provoked any kind of desire in me. I wasn't watching them out

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi University of Management

2005-07-31 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I posted a photo of my student loans recently. Here's the figures. 32,000 bucks for MIU education, 10,000 for a year of law school. That makes 42,000 dollars. 15 years of deferment, the loans are now 105,496.38 bucks.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Appreciation of 'appreciation'

2005-07-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds to me like impotence and approaching old age. The latter is possible, but the former was proved untrue later the same evening. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But

[FairfieldLife] Re: Appreciation of 'appreciation'

2005-07-31 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds to me like impotence and approaching old age. The latter is possible, but the former was proved untrue later the same evening. :-) Was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Appreciation of 'appreciation'

2005-07-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to write and thank Tom (I think) for the recent post in which he suggested that at a certain point in one's evol- ution it was possibly

[FairfieldLife] Re: Appreciation of 'appreciation'

2005-07-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds to me like impotence and approaching old age. The latter is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Appreciation of 'appreciation'

2005-07-31 Thread feste37
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds to me like impotence and approaching old age. The latter is possible, but the former was proved untrue later the same evening. :-) I'm

[FairfieldLife] Re: Appreciation of 'appreciation'

2005-07-31 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
I spotted a Maharishi school in Uttar Kashi October/November 2004. In the short time it took me to ask local directions I looked over the biology laboratory, met the administrator and quite a few pupils. By western standards the school looked a little raw but by local standards I suspect it

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Course Fee now $3,000

2005-07-31 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Talking w/ recerts out in the malls working to bring initiates and palaces into the TMO, the course fee for TM is raised now to $3,000. They are saying there is not really any teaching going on. Some of them out in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Appreciation of 'appreciation'

2005-07-31 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to write and thank Tom (I think) for the recent post in which he suggested that at a certain point in one's evol- ution it was possibly more accurate to think of desires as 'appreciation' than it was to think of

[FairfieldLife] Raja of the Congo speaks

2005-07-31 Thread bbrigante
Raja Paul Potter, the Raja of New York, whose other areas of responsibility around the world include Austria, The Netherlands Antilles, Slovakia, Ukraine, Uruguay, Gambia, and the Republic of Congo was one of the speakers. Following is a paraphrase of his talk. http://tinyurl.com/cu6oq

[FairfieldLife] Re: Expectations (What is Desire, without expectation)?

2005-07-31 Thread Robert Gimbel
---Before enlightenment, we experience ourselves as the ego, or the limited self or the small self. So, that which is desiring is desiring from the ego. As long as one remains in the ego, it is a constant battle to preclude any desire that would not be attatched to expectation. It's almost

[FairfieldLife] The Rivalry for Jyotir Math

2005-07-31 Thread Rick Archer
Title: The Rivalry for Jyotir Math The Rivalry for Jyotir Math by Dana Sawyer 2001 High in the Garhwal Himalayas, near the border with Tibet, lies the sacred Hindu temple of Badrinath, one of the most important pilgrimage destinations in the Uttarkand, the northern portion. Each year, tens

[FairfieldLife] New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2005-07-31 Thread FairfieldLife
Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /Miscellaneous Writings/court case.doc Uploaded by : rick_archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description : Dana Sawyer's article on the rivalry

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reac

2005-07-31 Thread Vaj
On Jul 26, 2005, at 4:40 PM, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote: This is the only sutra in Patanjali that says that Enlightenment is the result of doing this sutra. Very clever. Sutra This also explains what happens to the intellect. Old Notes from my Patanjali Guru -V. Eventually

[FairfieldLife] So where's the Shiva Lingam..

2005-07-31 Thread wmurphy77
All the other Hindu metaphors seem to be prevalent/relevant, why not the Shiva Lingam. I can see one right now in the middle of Vedic City, a sort of town square! BillyG. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reac

2005-07-31 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 26, 2005, at 4:40 PM, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote: This is the only sutra in Patanjali that says that Enlightenment is the result of doing this sutra. Very clever. Sutra This also explains what

[FairfieldLife] Re :Why is MMY in a hurry.....

2005-07-31 Thread Jason Spock
-OriginalMessage-- From: "wmurphy77" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 15:53:44 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Why is MMY in a hurry. I know he has stated he was in the past, but has never said why? Isn'tanything worthwhile,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Expectations (What is Desire, without expectation)?

2005-07-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In enlightenment, one is already fulfilled or has the goal of any desire fulfilled in one's being. The Self is Realized as the soul or Atma, no longer bound by the ego, or mind created small self. So, the real

[FairfieldLife] Re: So where's the Shiva Lingam..

2005-07-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All the other Hindu metaphors seem to be prevalent/relevant, why not the Shiva Lingam. I can see one right now in the middle of Vedic City, a sort of town square! A square lingam. Kinky. First goats, now this. What

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reac

2005-07-31 Thread anonymousff
Excactly!! Thats exactly my experience. What he said. :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eventually rajas and tamas and cleansed from the mind. When the Buddhi becomes as purified as gold, it then rests and stays in its own nature, experience changes.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So where's the Shiva Lingam..

2005-07-31 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 7/31/05 4:20:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A square lingam. Kinky. First goats, now this. What next? :-) Only Vedic City could fit a square Lingam in a round yoni To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Raja of the Congo speaks -AND The great explorer

2005-07-31 Thread benjaminccollins
In the announcement there is this little gem: Twelve beautiful pieces of land have been acquired for the purpose of building Peace Palaces. Much of this land, Raja Potter said, was discovered by the great explorer Richard Quinn, who embodies so completely the principle that came out the day

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reac

2005-07-31 Thread Vaj
On Jul 31, 2005, at 4:51 PM, cardemaister wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 26, 2005, at 4:40 PM, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote: This is the only sutra in Patanjali that says that Enlightenment is the result of doing this sutra.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Re :Why is MMY in a hurry.....

2005-07-31 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] -OriginalMessage-- From: wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 15:53:44 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Why is MMY in a hurry.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Course Fee now $3,000

2005-07-31 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amma gave out plenty of mantras on her recent US tour. They're free. Yeah, but each hug is $47,000... --- dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Talking w/ recerts out in the malls working to bring

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Course Fee now $3,000

2005-07-31 Thread Cliff
I would like to see a few weekend residence courses included for the price. That's what really got me interested. Stan Crowe taught a residence course in Michigan in spring 1972, and after doing 15 rounds on Saturday, I signed up for Humboldt SCI and then TTC. Probably wasnt' supposed to do 15

[FairfieldLife] Re: Raja of the Congo speaks -AND The great explorer

2005-07-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, benjaminccollins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the announcement there is this little gem: Twelve beautiful pieces of land have been acquired for the purpose of building Peace Palaces. Much of this land, Raja Potter said, was discovered by the great

[FairfieldLife] Re: So where's the Shiva Lingam..

2005-07-31 Thread Cliff
I've heard from a very reliable source that they all fit... :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/31/05 4:20:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A square lingam. Kinky. First goats, now this. What next? :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Raja of the Congo speaks -AND The great explorer

2005-07-31 Thread Cliff
Yes, I'm sure that's Richie of Richie and Linda Quinn, who were in Washington DC for much of the 1980s and then in Asbury Park for a few years. He always struck me as very sincere and devoted, although being described as a great adventurer is probably due to Paul Potter's likely aversion to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Raja of the Congo speaks -AND The great explorer

2005-07-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I'm sure that's Richie of Richie and Linda Quinn, who were in Washington DC for much of the 1980s and then in Asbury Park for a few years. He always struck me as very sincere and devoted, although being described as a

[FairfieldLife] Lazy Sunday Afternoon

2005-07-31 Thread anonymousff
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[FairfieldLife] Re: What if...

2005-07-31 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip But it almost seems to be swinging in the opposite direction, as if there's more and more psychological investment *against* MMY and the TMO, as if people *want* it all to be a fraud and a failure. snip As

[FairfieldLife] Re: What if...

2005-07-31 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What if... What if the subconscious purpose of all the latest TMO activities was, in fact,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Raja of the Congo speaks -AND The great explorer

2005-07-31 Thread anonymousff
I cannot figure out how Paul Potter got to be in the position he occupies in the TM org. He has nearly no personality at all when he speaks and if you try to talk to him in person he is markedly absent. Does anyone know if he and Susie Raymond are still married? She used to be one of the greatest

[FairfieldLife] Re: Raja of the Congo speaks -AND The great explorer

2005-07-31 Thread Cliff
Unless Paul has radically changed over the years (and I agree, some people do), he would be incapable of anything other than the profoundest sincerity in any official utterances he made on behalf of the Movement. He takes the Movement VERY SERIOUSLY (make this bold, red, about 124 point and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Raja of the Congo speaks -AND The great explorer

2005-07-31 Thread Cliff
Unthinking, unquestioning loyalty is something Maharishi appreciates. It's also very useful for the administrators like Bevan and Neil to have someone around who will simply do whatever, whenever, without a backward glance. Paul at least used to fit that criteria quite well. It was always odd

[FairfieldLife] Re: Raja of the Congo speaks -AND The great explorer

2005-07-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless Paul has radically changed over the years (and I agree, some people do), he would be incapable of anything other than the profoundest sincerity in any official utterances he made on behalf of the Movement. He takes

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Raja of the Congo speaks -AND The great explorer

2005-07-31 Thread gullible fool
He takes the Movement VERY SERIOUSLY (make this bold, red, about 124 point and underlined in addition to capitalized, If you're ever interested, you can do graphics like that by switching from plain text to HTML mode. You would select Mail Options on the top right, then General Preferences

[FairfieldLife] Re: What if...

2005-07-31 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The closer I get to a delighted, I don't know regarding the TMO and MMY's behavior the easier my

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So where's the Shiva Lingam..

2005-07-31 Thread Llundrub
That's not my experience. - Original Message - From: Cliff To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 5:58 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: So where's the Shiva Lingam.. I've heard from a very reliable source that "they all fit"... :-)--- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Raja of the Congo speaks -AND The great explorer

2005-07-31 Thread Peter
Like a mad, delightful dream, filled with magic castles and kings and intrepid explorers exploring the untamed wilds of New Rochelle. You gotta love it! --- benjaminccollins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the announcement there is this little gem: Twelve beautiful pieces of land have been

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What if...

2005-07-31 Thread Rick Archer
on 7/31/05 7:48 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe all this insanity -- and that is precisely what any rational person would have to conclude it is -- is his way of saying: isn't there ANYONE out there that listened to what I've been saying all these years? Won't someone have

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Raja of the Congo speaks -AND The great explorer

2005-07-31 Thread Rick Archer
on 7/31/05 7:49 PM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cannot figure out how Paul Potter got to be in the position he occupies in the TM org. He has nearly no personality at all when he speaks and if you try to talk to him in person he is markedly absent. Does anyone know if he and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Raja of the Congo speaks -AND The great explorer

2005-07-31 Thread Rick Archer
on 7/31/05 8:05 PM, Cliff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for Susie - I never knew her before she and Paul were married, so I cannot comment. She was so far in the background of Paul whenever I was around that no personality was present. That may be more a comment on her reaction to me than

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