[FairfieldLife] In space no one will hear you scream. Because you won't.....

2013-01-27 Thread salyavin808
20 amazing facts about the human body Many of the most exciting discoveries in all fields of science are being played out in the human body * The Observer http://observer.guardian.co.uk/ , Sunday 27 January 2013 * [Nude of a woman] From DNA to the atoms inside us, the human body is a

[FairfieldLife] Indo-Uralic languages?

2013-01-27 Thread card
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Uralic Indo-Uralic is a proposed language family consisting of Indo-European and Uralic. A genetic relationship between Indo-European and Uralic was first proposed by the Danish linguist Vilhelm Thomsen in 1869 (Pedersen 1931:336) but was received with

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: Oh salyavin808, I am incredibly sorry I have not given your's and Barry's and MJ's victimization the full respect, adoration and drama it deserves! Damn, were you ever spanked by mommy, or daddy? Should we add that to the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Oh salyavin808, I am incredibly sorry I have not given your's and Barry's and MJ's victimization the full respect, adoration and drama it deserves! Damn, were

[FairfieldLife] The Lament of the Gopis for Krishna

2013-01-27 Thread martin.quickman
Krishna's Song is a deeply profound piece of writing. I like this translation into English and feel it deserves a place in our hearts. Radha though is not a woman but is the manifestation of Krishna-bhakti . In response to the question, How devoted should one be?` the Naradbhaktisutra writes,

[FairfieldLife] Zero loads?

2013-01-27 Thread card
Anyone know, how many Android- and iPhone apps there are with zero or very few loads?

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Lament of the Gopis for Krishna

2013-01-27 Thread card
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martin.quickman wrote: Krishna's Song is a deeply profound piece of writing. I like this translation into English and feel it deserves a place in our hearts. Radha though is not a woman but is the manifestation of Krishna-bhakti . In response to the

[FairfieldLife] Dawg with a costly obsession!

2013-01-27 Thread card
http://www.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/2013012616603469_uu.shtml

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: I can honestly say I went on a lot of residence courses, and was never asked to donate money, or purchase *anything*. Wasn't a perfect experience, but this

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Oh salyavin808, I am incredibly sorry I have not given your's and Barry's and MJ's victimization the

[FairfieldLife] Re: In space no one will hear you scream. Because you won't.....

2013-01-27 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Salyavin, as I read this tiny muscles around the base of each hair folicle tensed and the hair stood up.  But that's ok because I now know that whenever I'm sitting, I'm also floating. And no sutra required!   Yay!  BTW, you and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: I can honestly say I went on a lot of residence courses, and was never asked to donate

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Oh salyavin808, I am incredibly sorry I have not given your's and Barry's and MJ's victimization the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread Michael Jackson
Why on earth would anyone make up something like that? There are far too many stories that abound about unethical behavior on the part of the TMO for people to have to make any up. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread Michael Jackson
They subconsciously identify themselves with the glory of an enlightened person, and enlightened organization. Since they identify themselves with the idea of such a delightful energy, they CANNOT question the person and organization because to do so means they have to question the very fabric

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: I can honestly say I went on a lot of residence courses, and was never asked to donate

Re: [FairfieldLife] To Share, with Ambiance to Michael...

2013-01-27 Thread Share Long
...with ambient temperature around 70 F 21 C but with risings and fallings here and there just for the fun of it, the yin yang of diversity, the play of light and darkness, etc.  Thanks for your replies and sense of humor.  I like that phrase rustic ambiance.  Will give footnote if I use

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: I can honestly say I went on a lot of residence courses, and was never asked to donate money, or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Why on earth would anyone make up something like that? There are far too many stories that abound about unethical behavior on the part of the TMO for people to have to make any up. According to Nabby, anyone who says such

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: I can honestly say I went on a lot of residence courses, and was never asked to donate

[FairfieldLife] Getting Over Spiritual Nostalgia

2013-01-27 Thread turquoiseb
Like many here, I have many pleasant memories of my time in the TM movement. The camaraderie of friends who shared a similar vision and a similar goal. The joys of teaching, especially (for me) the advanced lectures that really weren't, but which gave one the opportunity to hear a question that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Why on earth would anyone make up something like that? There are far too many stories that abound about unethical behavior on the part of the TMO for people to have to make any up. Apart from the waste of a nice sunny afternoon

[FairfieldLife] Re: Zero loads?

2013-01-27 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card wrote: Anyone know, how many Android- and iPhone apps there are with zero or very few loads? In this context, what is a load? It sounds like you're asking about apps that few or no people have loaded into their phones, but somehow that just

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread doctordumbass
I grew up, and moved on. Too bad you did not, though you can be lead through life however you choose. Yes, I AM ENLIGHTENED, BARRY, AND DON'T YOU **EVER** FORGET IT!:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread Buck
The unbounded faith which conservative Meditators have in their own principles, and the way they regard the principles and practices of other techniques, approach intolerance on their part. They believe they are guided to their convictions by the Spirit of Truth, and they really think they

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread Buck
The unbounded faith which conservative Meditators have in their own principles, and the way they regard the principles and practices of other techniques, approach intolerance on their part. They believe they are guided to their convictions by the Spirit of Truth, and they really think they

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread obbajeeba
FFL, the endless battle of who did what, and how come I am not fucking enlightened yet. Hey Bob, the link you put at the end of your post below on this thread, it does not work if one lives in the States. I love Purple rain to go along with those purple high stretch stiletto boots, please

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting Over Spiritual Nostalgia

2013-01-27 Thread doctordumbass
My actions may be all about avoidance to you, yet your actions SCREAM addiction and obsession and drama queenery to me, always whining and screeching about what the TMO and Maharishi did or did not do. WTF? Grow up - let it go. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: Like

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread doctordumbass
Ohbe, you don't live in California either.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: FFL, the endless battle of who did what, and how come I am not fucking enlightened yet. Hey Bob, the link you put at the end of your post below on this thread, it does not work if one

[FairfieldLife] Re: In space no one will hear you scream. Because you won't.....

2013-01-27 Thread doctordumbass
Thanks for this! Completely fascinating - I guess we don't look any bigger to a foe with hair standing on end, so we invented guns, padded shoulders and platform shoes. Also saw something on TV recently about how neanderthal DNA has been incorporated into ours. Apparently those with the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread obbajeeba
I agree, there is no reason to make up anything. It takes time to come to decipher what happened and what really happened. Where is one today as well as where were they yesterday. Keeping the positive attitude or positive feelings cannot deduct the truth. It is easy to sit in the cushy cotton

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: I grew up, and moved on. Too bad you did not, though you can be lead through life however you choose. Yes, I AM ENLIGHTENED, BARRY, AND DON'T YOU **EVER** FORGET IT!:-) I *can't* forget it, Jimbo, because I never

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread doctordumbass
LOL - Gotcha!! ...and I told you I had a naughty side, but you just don't listen, do ya?...Let's try it again -- HEY BARRY, I AM ENLIGHTENED, AND DON'T YOU **EVER** FORGET IT!!!:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread obbajeeba
That is debatable. There is a string attached, and it tells the tales similar to the Grapes of Wrath.. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: Ohbe, you don't live in California either.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: FFL, the endless

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread seventhray27
Barry, Jim's enlightenment is parve. Meaning what does it matter,whether he is, or he isn't? You can go either way with it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: I grew up, and moved on. Too bad you did not,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: Barry, Jim's enlightenment is parve. Meaning what does it matter,whether he is, or he isn't? It obviously matters a great deal to him. You can go either way with it. Of course you can. But my point is the same as it's ever been

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread Michael Jackson
I'm out of the loop as to who is enlightened and who isn't - I don't even know the Doctor's real name - I thought he was the real Doctor Who. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:48 AM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread doctordumbass
Dude, you are giving me WAY TOO MUCH CREDIT, regarding any demeaning of the concept of enlightenment, simply because my words may be seen by about 20 people, total, and that's generous, and second, more importantly, WHAT THE FUCK IS A CONCEPT OF ENLIGHTENMENT? Are you a moodmaker, or what...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: snip I bleed for you guys. Geez, the abuses and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread doctordumbass
Who?? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: I'm out of the loop as to who is enlightened and who isn't - I don't even know the Doctor's real name - I thought he was the real Doctor Who. From: turquoiseb To:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: I grew up, and moved on. Too bad you did not, though you can be lead through life however you choose. Yes, I AM ENLIGHTENED, BARRY, AND DON'T YOU **EVER** FORGET

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread doctordumbass
You and I can go either way with it, Steve, but good *old* Barry I am afraid, cannot.:-) Button pusher became the pushed. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: Barry, Jim's enlightenment is parve. Meaning what does it matter,whether he is, or he isn't? You can go

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
That was interesting Jim. So it may be hard to relate to someone who lacks this ability to draw things as they appear. So maybe you can help me with this question: After you have the ability to realistically represent things on paper, what is it that allows someone to interpret what they see

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
This is very cool Bob, thanks for posting this. I spent some time this morning digging in, and it even discusses the lack of artistic education for young people! Some things never change. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: This link will take you to the book: 

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-27 Thread doctordumbass
Great question, regarding abstract representation!! Love it - My stepsister is an artist, primarily painting, and she just send me a self portrait that she did, as part of a class she is taking, where she was restricted to just six colors in her palate. It is just as you describe, abstracted

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: I've never encountered any form of sales-pitch on ANY course during decades in the TMO. So far we only have your version of this. So you never taught 3rd night of checking which includes the sales pitch for a residence course

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: Great question, regarding abstract representation!! Love it - My stepsister is an artist, primarily painting, and she just send me a self portrait that she did, as part of a class she is taking, where she was restricted to just

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
Hey Steve, thanks for the reply. I agree that FFL is a great place to be inspired to write daily. I used it that way for years. Your story about the ill fated trip to the museum as a sketch expert has a funny connection for me. My late uncle (not by blood unfortunately) was Joe Jones who is

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-27 Thread doctordumbass
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Great question, regarding abstract representation!! Love it - My stepsister is an artist, primarily painting, and she just send me a self portrait that she did,

Re: [FairfieldLife] In space no one will hear you scream. Because you won't.....

2013-01-27 Thread Emily Reyn
Share, do you mean best post of January, 2013?  Which ones?   My condolences and thoughts go out to you and your family today.  Emily.  From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread Carol
Barry stated, Nabby, what on Earth gives you the impression that anyone here believes *anything* you say, let alone anything you say about the TMO and Maharishi? I don't know Nabby. But from what I've read of Barry, I just might believe Nabby over Barry. But probably to Barry, I'm not

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
Here you really hit my own visual artist limits. I don't get Pollock at all. But on the other hand, I can't remember if I ever stood in front of one of his originals. I need to go down to the National Modern Art museum in DC to see if I can be nudged into appreciating him. Thanks for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim

2013-01-27 Thread Carol
Jim...are you serious when you say you are enlightened? When I've read a poster on FFL claim enlightenment, I've always taken it as a sarcasm. Do certain people on FFL believe they have reached enlightenment? *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: LOL

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread Michael Jackson
I was thinking about all this and I can't ever remember anything like the Croatia course where they were pitching Vedaland - I mean I never encountered anything like that on a rounding course - unless you include the sidhis - I did hear sales pitches for that, tho I would not have characterized

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: I've never encountered any form of sales-pitch on ANY course during decades in the TMO. So far we only have your version of this. So you never taught 3rd night

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Zero loads?

2013-01-27 Thread Emily Reyn
Alex, I always laugh when I read your posts.  Nice of you to share.  I'm just sitting here, drinking a cup of strong coffee, feeling like I have many better things to do, but unwilling to disturb the quiet of sleeping teenagers and outside wet, damp, cloud-covered calm after a huge rainstorm

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Zero loads?

2013-01-27 Thread Bhairitu
On 01/27/2013 06:18 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card wrote: Anyone know, how many Android- and iPhone apps there are with zero or very few loads? In this context, what is a load? It sounds like you're asking about apps that few or no people have

[FairfieldLife] Yoiks! Space/time actuality -- now seen on par with philostogen's.

2013-01-27 Thread Duveyoung
So you want your world flipped inside out, eh? I. So. Eat. This. Stuff. Up. I'm owned. Folks, this is a sermon that doesn't mention God, and I'm okay with that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=XDAJinQL2c0

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: I've never encountered any form of sales-pitch on ANY course during decades in the TMO. So far we

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-27 Thread seventhray27
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues wrote: Hey Steve, thanks for the reply. I agree that FFL is a great place to be inspired to write daily. I used it that way for years. Your story about the ill fated trip to the museum as a sketch expert has a funny connection for me. My

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-27 Thread doctordumbass
Yep - I totally get the intellectual vs full appreciation - same way for me with Davis and Coltrane, and er...John Cage.:-) Yeah, the east wing of the national gallery -- Pollock is there, along with amazing Matisse, scary de Kooning, and those weightless mobiles by Calder --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread Emily Reyn
I noted the same about the link, but know the song and thus moved to Bob's other link of the book.  What a great book; a great offering with wonderful drawings.  The pages turn for you, which is very cool.  That is a pertinent link to what Curtis posted and I have saved it to peruse.  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim

2013-01-27 Thread doctordumbass
It is anything but a static state, first experienced as always being grounded in the Self, or permanent silence. Once a person is established in Silence within, the enlightenment begins to infect everything else. The Silence within can no longer be overshadowed, destroyed, or disrupted. Sounds

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
Well as you know, the rich have always been the patrons of the arts. They certainly were for my uncle during his life. And think of the Medici family in Florence! They practically single-highhandedly financed Renaissance art. Snowmass sounds like a great place to hang, I have never been

Re: [FairfieldLife] In space no one will hear you scream. Because you won't.....

2013-01-27 Thread Share Long
Thanks, Emily, she was a wonderful woman who I was fortunate to know for over 50 years, mainly seeing her at weddings, etc.  I was making a joke about 2013 but I did very much enjoy Bob's post about the constantly bickering spiritual disciples and Salyavin's about the human body. Everything is

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-27 Thread doctordumbass
Looks EXACTLY like my previous commute!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues wrote: Well as you know, the rich have always been the patrons of the arts. They certainly were for my uncle during his life. And think of the Medici family in Florence! They practically

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
Here is a whimsical sketch he made for a friend that you may relate to as a married man: http://pbfineart.com/jjones/bed_600_417.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues wrote: Hey Steve, thanks for the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread Michael Jackson
That was her take on the issue, not mine - the original deal was the story of Vedaland being pitched to CPs after weeks of rounding and the deceit onthe part of the PR guy when asked what was Henning doing at that moment (when the PR guy apparently knew he was dying) - but it brought up for me

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: Barry, Jim's enlightenment is parve. Meaning what does it matter,whether he is, or he isn't? It obviously matters a great deal to him. You can go either way with

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim

2013-01-27 Thread Carol
Jim stated: It is anything but a static state, first experienced as always being grounded in the Self, or permanent silence. Once a person is established in Silence within, the enlightenment begins to infect everything else. The Silence within can no longer be overshadowed, destroyed, or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: That was her take on the issue, not mine Excuse me, Michael, but what I was explaining to Curtis was very clearly one part of what you describe as your take on the issue: - the original deal was the story of Vedaland being pitched

[FairfieldLife] Enlightenment...in your own words

2013-01-27 Thread Carol
I'm curious to hear/read different folks descriptions of what it is like to have the Silence permeate other areas of your life. And why is this state of grounded in the self and permanent silence called Enlightenment? Thanks! PS: Jim (doctordumbass) stated in his own words regarding

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim

2013-01-27 Thread Emily Reyn
Yes, I get to this state of mind backpacking as well, and at the beach, and this summer, while camping and hiking in Utah.  Once I get there, which takes several days sometimes (faster backpacking), it stays with me during the trip.   I always try to bring the state back to my real life, but I

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-27 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues wrote: Hey Steve, thanks for the reply. I agree that FFL is a great place to be inspired to write daily. I used it that way for years. Your story about the ill fated

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: It simply wouldn't have been a big blip on my radar screen. Just more silly TMO blah-blah-blah, tune it out. Vedaland was a ridiculous notion to start with even when

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim

2013-01-27 Thread Carol
Is it that one can get there faster through meditation...or is it meditation is more easily accessible than to going backpacking? When I walk dogs, I enter a similar state. So maybe I prefer a walking meditation. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread dhamiltony2k5
I really feel that if we could just sit to meditate together then you'd come to understand the truly larger Good you rile against. You guys just need to come back, get your meditation checked, sit in a group meditation, listen to an advanced lecture again and then you'd see what mischief in

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
Hey Buck, I thought you could appreciate his dedication to depicting the working Mid-Western farmer in his daily toil. He was drawn to the honest laborer,loved the Mid West, and felt this class of person was not getting a fair shake in the capitalist system, even though they were doing the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread Carol
Salyavin stated: So I shall continue to be outraged on behalf of everyone on the course who had their evening ruined, and potentially their bank account emptied by a slick, bullshitting, money grabbing cocksucker from the age of enlightenment. I'm trying to recall Sal, if you are the one that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim

2013-01-27 Thread Emily Reyn
Ha ha ha.I take a lot of long daily dog walks myself - and the dog needs these as well.  It's the time it all takes that I need to address.  And swimming works wonders for me as well - lots of breathing.   From: Carol jchwe...@gmail.com To:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: It simply wouldn't have been a big blip on my radar screen. Just more silly TMO blah-blah-blah, tune it out.

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-27 Thread merudanda
Hiroshige's oeuvre was Van Gogh's main reference to the extent that all the scenes and landscapes painted by Van Gogh from 1887 onward are direct or indirect references to Hiroshige's art. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WETfTMWDgic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WETfTMWDgic I am sure you are

[FairfieldLife] The uncensored Jesus

2013-01-27 Thread salyavin808
This is certainly eye opening, the kid had quite a talent: Written in the early second century, around the same time most scholars date the four Gospels in the Bible, the Infancy Gospel of Thomas picks up the story a few years after the dragon taming. Back in Nazareth now, five-year-old Jesus was

Re: [FairfieldLife] Enlightenment...in your own words

2013-01-27 Thread Share Long
Carol me and many of my long term TM friends could care less if we're enlightened.  But I want to respond to your exchange with Emily about backpacking, walking the dog, etc. I remember the first time I meditated in March 1975 I thought, oh, I've had this before.  It was very familiar to me. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim

2013-01-27 Thread Carol
I like swimming underwater and have put on my wish listgills. ;D --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: Ha ha ha.I take a lot of long daily dog walks myself - and the dog needs these as well.  It's the time it all takes that I need to address.  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment...in your own words

2013-01-27 Thread Carol
Thanks for the response Share. You brought to mind my experiences when I used to jog. I had forgotten about those. I mostly would go on a jog for my mind, not my body. So MMY used the term restful alertness. Is restful alertness the same as enlightenment? I'm currently on Day 10 of a 15 to 30

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim

2013-01-27 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Meditation gets you there faster, no? No this is a wrong notion that I see being perpetuated by everyone I hear. Meditation lets you purify your body, mind and senses so the transition is smoother, easier when the mystical energy descends. When this happens and if it indeed happens is a big

[FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again.....to Michael

2013-01-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: Hey Share, Translation: Hey, Judy,...(but I'm pretending I'm writing to Share, aren't I clever?) snip And along these same lines, it would not occur to me to try to demean a person who is not a native speaker, because they make

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up

2013-01-27 Thread Michael Jackson
Bucky, Bucky, I do actually appreciate your unflagging hopefulness, and your invitation to meditate together. I will if ever in your town be happy to meditate with you and anyone else you invite, but not of course, in the Dome since, if your suspicion is correct that the TMO lurks on FFL they

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim

2013-01-27 Thread Carol
I find your response interesting. Ravi, I started another thread regarding enlightenment here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/333764 Would you mind commenting on that thread? (Just to keep the comments together. Hope that is an okay request here on FFL.) In your words,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Enlightenment...in your own words

2013-01-27 Thread Michael Jackson
Oh Share I love this! I wish I could see Bob Roth and his TMO buddies response to the statement that TM transcending thru TM and smoking pot sometimes give the same experience! Thanks for posting this! From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment...in your own words

2013-01-27 Thread card
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol wrote: I'm curious to hear/read different folks descriptions of what it is like to have the Silence permeate other areas of your life. And why is this state of grounded in the self and permanent silence called Enlightenment? My wild guess

Re: [FairfieldLife] Enlightenment...in your own words

2013-01-27 Thread Share Long
dear MJ, silly boy, you know that's not what I meant.  Anyway, I'm not a gov so probably I got something wrong.  And I did fall on the ice this morning so maybe vata is very vitiated.  I'm just sayin.  But hey, if you're happy, I'm happy (-: BTW, I just made it across the verges, across the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Enlightenment...in your own words

2013-01-27 Thread Bhairitu
On 01/27/2013 10:45 AM, Carol wrote: I'm curious to hear/read different folks descriptions of what it is like to have the Silence permeate other areas of your life. And why is this state of grounded in the self and permanent silence called Enlightenment? Thanks! PS: Jim (doctordumbass)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Enlightenment...in your own words

2013-01-27 Thread Michael Jackson
That is a pretty cool description - if you don't mind my asking as a relative newcomer to FFL - did you learn TM in India or the US? From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 3:20 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Untouchables

2013-01-27 Thread Bhairitu
On 01/25/2013 10:34 AM, raunchydog wrote: The Untouchables attempts to explain why the Wall Street execs who engineered the great financial wreck of 2008 have never been prosecuted. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/untouchables/ I finally got around to watching this. Everyone in the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie

2013-01-27 Thread Bhairitu
On 01/26/2013 12:58 PM, Bhairitu wrote: On 01/26/2013 12:34 PM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues wrote: Wow, I did not know that about them. Yup, they were found, and then introduced to each other, and then trained carefully, by Albert Grossman. He

Re: [FairfieldLife] Enlightenment...in your own words to bhairitu

2013-01-27 Thread Share Long
Around MIU in the late 70s I always heard that flash is trash, not something to be sought.  I've noticed that flash tends to happen more with those who did LSD.  Which I did not.  And I never heard Maharishi talk about plateaus.  Anyway, with practice of the sidhis, the silence I've noticed can

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