[FairfieldLife] Manufactured Crisis by Anglachel
As I have said in a previous post, ...I'm all for preserving Medicare, Social Security and believe we need universal healthcare. These are essential social safety nets. However, the recent pork laden bailout, forced on taxpayers, sets the stage for Obama to scrap any program protecting the most basic of human needs... During the debate tonight, when both candidates blithely took aim at Social Security and Medicare as needing a fix, it confirmed my worst fears about Obama. He pretends to rage against the excesses of Wall Street while planning to screw the little guy on Main Street. This is the same guy who got a lot of campaign money from BANKS http://tinyurl.com/674c38 http://tinyurl.com/674c38 http://tinyurl.com/674c38 I'll excuse McCain for screwing the little guy because he's a Republican. As for Obama, he might as well be one. [Nq081007] http://www.gocomics.com/nonsequitur/2008/10/07/?campid=0ssns=9# Manufactured Crisis Anglachel's Journal 10/07/08 http://tinyurl.com/4s36sw http://tinyurl.com/4s36sw Honestly, I tried to follow the debate between The Precious and My Cranky Friend, but it was turn it off or throw up. Tom Brokaw presents the interests of the Very Serious People and wants to know what the candidates are going to do to cut spending, entitlement reform, now that we have to give all of the money to Wall Street. Social Security, Medicare and Medicade are mentioned by name as prime candidates to cut. The completely predictable and ignored until warp-core meltdown manufactured crisis on Wall Street is used to bolster the perennial manufactured crisis of how are we going to kill off that pesky New Deal and Great Society stuff that only helps the little people. Pull up the ladder, Bo'sun, I'm aboard. In lieu of actual presidential discussion, I present Hillary's cheeky and deliciously insulting letter http://clinton.senate.gov/news/statements/record.cfm?id=304175 to The Chimperor and his Hanky Panky today. She knows who created the problem and isn't afraid to rub Bush's nose in it, with a delivery all the more effective because of its politeness: The ongoing credit crisis has severely restricted bank lending. The dramatic decline in the Dow Jones Industrial Average Index underscores the lack of liquidity in virtually all markets except U.S. Treasuries. At the same time, global market turmoil is creating more uncertainty and anxiety here at home, when what is needed at this time is confidence to bolster the credit markets. Our economy runs on credit and credit is in too short supply. As a result, many small businesses cannot receive the loans and lines of credit they need to make payroll, stock inventory, or expand. This is having a dramatic impact on jobs with 159,000 lost this past month alone, the ninth straight month of job losses and the greatest single month loss in five years. Banks' restrictive lending terms will make securing college loans more difficult, while also increasing the pressure on colleges and universities who lost access to funds maintained by distressed financial institutions to raise tuition. The municipal bond market has taken a huge hit as investors flee and financing costs skyrocket. Several states and municipalities are at risk of failing to maintain important government functions. Shorter Hillary - Look at the mess you made, you bozo, so bad even your base is in deep doo-doo (as Poppy would say). Nine straight months of job losses, Chimp, way to go! I love the patient lecture to these two - See, kids, this is how the economy actually works. This is how it affects ordinary people, the kind invisible to you. You are not going to be allowed to sit around and dither, running down the clock while your uber-rich golf-buddies manipulate the markets to extort maximum benefit from the bailout. Unlike the guy the DNC handed the nomination to, she's not afraid to talk about social justice: The Treasury has already become a lender of last resort for large financial firms and banks. We must extend that same help to small businesses, students, colleges, local governments and all those who are bearing the brunt of the same widespread credit crisis. It is a matter of necessity and a matter of fairness: we are helping to keep large Wall Street firms stay afloat with lines of credit. We should do the same for small Main Street businesses as well. It matters how you frame arguments. If you accept the terms that there are no choices except to fix social programs by gutting them in hard times, the times when they are most needed, then that is probably what you will end up doing. Sympathy for them, even belief in them, is toothless if not backed by the willingness to fight for them exactly when it is least popular among the Very Important People. The argument to make is not one about morality (good people do this, we are a better people than that), but an appeal to justice (What we do for the powerful must also be done for the ordinary.). You don't need an appeal
[FairfieldLife] US vs. THEM: That one, applied to Fairfield Life
Taking a cue from John McCain's reference to Obama as That one, I thought that it would be good to start a list (hopefully to be added to by other posters) of the characteristics associated with the increasing US vs. THEM polarity we've been seeing on Fairfield Life lately, and the tendency by the US group to treat the members of the THEM group as if they are less than human and deserve to be thought of as That one rather than as a human being. If you're a newbie, you can use this list to find the group you feel you best fit into. US group members (also referred to as We who know the Truth while you don't) -- * Have elite membership criteria, so elite that at present this group has only 4 members: Shemp, Judy, raunchydog, and Willytex. * Know The Truth about everything. Anyone who dis- agrees with a member of the US group is by definition wrong and RLLY RLLY STOOOPID, and can be legitimately referred to in posts as That one instead of using the poster's name. * Have no lives. As far as anyone can tell, the most important thing in US group posters' lives is writing vitriol to Fairfield Life in an attempt to make some- one else feel as unhappy as they are. Tend to panic when they exceed the posting limit and can't post for several days, and during those on the bench periods read FFL compulsively. * Have no friends. US group members never mention any friends in their real lives, and seem to consider no one here their friend. * Demand to be respected and taken seriously, while acting in a manner that makes it impossible to either respect them or take them seriously. * Fantasize that their posts are making someone feel bad and gloat over the imagined devastating insult or putdown. US group members tend to do this a lot. * Imagine an audience. Tend to fantasize that other posters (the ones they're trying to make feel bad) are reading their posts as slavishly as the US group reads the posts of others. THEM group members (also referred to by US group members as idiots or, individually, That one) -- * No real membership criteria, except still having a functional mind. (This may be one reason why the US group feels so outcast; they don't meet this criterion.) * Have opinions about things. Don't consider those opinions to be synonymous with the Truth. * Have lives. Read and post to FFL only for entertainment and relaxation purposes, and don't consider it all that important. * Have friends, both on FFL and in real life. * Don't assume that anyone is reading their posts and taking them seriously. Don't feel that either of these things is terribly important. * Just write things and send them off. Don't seem to be concerned if no one responds or if they don't respond the way that the poster wanted them to. * Don't need an audience. Don't really CARE if anyone is reading their posts or not...for them, the pleasure is mainly in the writing. * More and more, don't bother to even read posts made by members of the US group.
[FairfieldLife] It's President 'That One' to you -- comment from The Guardian
John McCain needed a good performance in the second debate - and he failed badly, sounding mean and dispirited. It's President 'That One' to you o Melissa McEwan o guardian.co.uk Welcome to: Townhall Debate: Muslin versus Mavrick Beyond Thunderdome! Before Barack Obama and John McCain are even introduced, I am struck with wonderment at the staging for the event, which is being held in what appears to be an airtight, windowless bomb shelter gussied up with an ocean of cheap red carpet, a vivid blue wall, one jarringly incongruent purple podium, and risers bought from a Bozo Show firesale. When the senators walk out, I half expect them to chuck the debate and instead play the Grand Prize Game. Which would actually pretty fun for us all. But, instead, we're treated to watching Barack Obama advocate change, John McCain invoke his record, and Tom Brokaw get snippy because the candidates didn't adhere to the rules and blocked his teleprompter. By the time Obama gives what was a surprisingly stirring response, even to the ears of this jaded cynic, to a question about what each candidate would ask the American people to sacrifice, he is really hitting his stride. He sounds confident. He sounds inspiring. He sounds presidential. McCain, on the other hand, sounds condescending perpetually chanting My friends, my friends, like a manic tic, and answering every question with the breathless voice of a desperate, imploring parent. Yes, you've got to go to the dentist, says my friend Devo, doing his impression of McCain's beseeching whine, but I'll take you to McDonald's afterwards. Content-wise, there aren't many revelations for those who have been paying attention to the race. If you've heard their stump speeches, if you've seen or read interviews with them, there isn't much new meat to chew on here. Obama stated flatly that healthcare is a right, which is a beautifully refreshing position to hear from an American presidential candidate. Conversely, McCain defines healthcare as a responsibility. McCain is certainly the more pugilistic of the two, referring snidely to Obama at one point as that one, which is just cringingly ugly and truly the nadir of McCain's various attempts to treat his opponent with disdain. He attempts a joke about hairplugs, an oblique jab at Joe Biden, which falls flat and looks pointlessly mean (which it is). He belligerently defends his Bomb Iran performance as a joke. The Republican nominee is suddenly a very long way from the man who, in April, pledged to run a respectful campaign. When the debate is over, the two candidates meet onstage. Barack and Michelle Obama stay behind to chat and take pictures with the attendees at the debate, while the McCains beat a rapid retreat. CNN reports that their campaign watchers give the debate to Obama, 54%-30%. McCain needed to win; he did not. He got owned. Say goodnight, Johnny. It's President That One to you.
Re: [FairfieldLife] It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog...
WOO HOO! This is very well stated. I deal with older white people everyday. In my business I have invested what I consider to be a large amount of money. My money(the money I was able to raise and invest) allowed for things to able to be done, in order to fund various projects. Yet there are people who feel that at 51 I am a good boy and they have the right to take my funds because I am too ___ to know what to do with them. Also I would not be getting anything if it had not been for them. Because BOYs dont have these opportunities without good white uncles. I was ok with it till the guy yelled at me on the phone in a way that let me understand that he really believed that shit. --- On Wed, 10/8/08, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 7:59 AM ...and with exactly the same tendency to wear confirmation-bias-colored glasses: Cindy McCain said today that she expects her husband to clear the record at tonight's debate and let America know where he truly stands. McCain, who stopped to visit a half-dozen children at the Monroe Carell Jr. Children's Hospital at Vanderbilt today, said the presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama has waged the dirtiest campaign in American history, and her husband Sen. John McCain will use tonight's debate to correct the distortions. Well, from where I sit, McCain not only did nothing to correct the distortions, he spoke the single phrase that will be remembered from the debate, and in history about the campaign, That one, used to refer to Obama. I'm reminded of my next-door neighbor growing up in Georgia, who had a separate bathroom for her two black maids because (exact quote), I will never sit on the same toilet seat that has been used by a nigger. The two maids had worked for her for several years, but this woman refused to ever learn their names. When she needed to address them directly, it was always Hey, you! and when she needed to tell her other equally-bigoted neighbors which one was worse (which was often), she literally referred to them as This one and That one. No shit. On the other hand, credit John McCain for adding a new euphemism for nigger to the English language. He couldn't have damaged his campaign more if he had used the real word. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] 'That one' made physical...McCain wouldn't even shake Obama's hand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI0iIOqPGak I'm sorry, but John McCain is a cunt. I'm starting to think that Sarah Palin has taken advantage of his weak mind and tendency to let others tell him how to think, and that as a result he now agrees with her that Obama is Satan.
[FairfieldLife] Religious propaganda??
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=296
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'That one' made physical...McCain wouldn't even shake Obama's hand
I've lost all respect for McCain. What an asshole, not even shaking hands with Obama. He's going to loose. --- On Wed, 10/8/08, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'That one' made physical...McCain wouldn't even shake Obama's hand To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 7:12 AM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI0iIOqPGak I'm sorry, but John McCain is a cunt. I'm starting to think that Sarah Palin has taken advantage of his weak mind and tendency to let others tell him how to think, and that as a result he now agrees with her that Obama is Satan. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 4:44 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I took a lot of drugs for a year or so during my teenage years and got busted twice. Therefore anyone who associates with me now, even occasionally and minimally, is guilty of associating with a drug abuser and criminal. What kind of drugs did you take during that year ? Grass almost daily. Acid maybe 20 times. A little speed. Heroin 2-3 times towards the end.
[FairfieldLife] It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog...
...and with exactly the same tendency to wear confirmation-bias-colored glasses: Cindy McCain said today that she expects her husband to clear the record at tonight's debate and let America know where he truly stands. McCain, who stopped to visit a half-dozen children at the Monroe Carell Jr. Children's Hospital at Vanderbilt today, said the presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama has waged the dirtiest campaign in American history, and her husband Sen. John McCain will use tonight's debate to correct the distortions. Well, from where I sit, McCain not only did nothing to correct the distortions, he spoke the single phrase that will be remembered from the debate, and in history about the campaign, That one, used to refer to Obama. I'm reminded of my next-door neighbor growing up in Georgia, who had a separate bathroom for her two black maids because (exact quote), I will never sit on the same toilet seat that has been used by a nigger. The two maids had worked for her for several years, but this woman refused to ever learn their names. When she needed to address them directly, it was always Hey, you! and when she needed to tell her other equally-bigoted neighbors which one was worse (which was often), she literally referred to them as This one and That one. No shit. On the other hand, credit John McCain for adding a new euphemism for nigger to the English language. He couldn't have damaged his campaign more if he had used the real word.
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WOO HOO! This is very well stated. I deal with older white people everyday. In my business I have invested what I consider to be a large amount of money. My money(the money I was able to raise and invest) allowed for things to able to be done, in order to fund various projects. Yet there are people who feel that at 51 I am a good boy and they have the right to take my funds because I am too ___ to know what to do with them. Also I would not be getting anything if it had not been for them. Because BOYs dont have these opportunities without good white uncles. I was ok with it till the guy yelled at me on the phone in a way that let me understand that he really believed that shit. It is probably impossible for someone who is white (like me) to identify with this level of ignorance and racism. I was the kid of an Air Force officer, and normally would have been living on the base there in Georgia, side by side with kids of black and white servicemen, but my mother had inherited some money from her father when he died, so she sprang for a house in the oh-so-white burbs. While it was a nice place for a kid to be able to grow up, the racism shocked the shit out of me even at the time (ages 10-14). We are talking about an era when every restaurant or service station had 4 restrooms -- two for white, two for colored, and a time when I was once thrown off of a bus as a kid because I wanted to sit in the back. I was a kid, and thought it would be more fun, but the driver literally stopped the bus and told me that this section was for colored only, and that if I didn't move to the front to my section, he'd throw me off. I didn't; he did. It left an impression, as did the neighbor's line about the toilet seats. But all of this was back in the late 1950s, and so much has changed on the surface that I had really begun to believe that a lot of the unreasoned, unintelligent hatred and condescension of white folks towards people whose skins are darker than theirs, *for no reason* but that their skins are darker than theirs, had largely gone away. So consider it a shock on my part as well that John McCain refused to shake hands with a black man during a Presidential debate. He *has* to have known how that would look, and his disdain for Obama and his sense of superiority to him is so strong that he did it anyway. That made me ashamed to be white. --- On Wed, 10/8/08, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 7:59 AM ...and with exactly the same tendency to wear confirmation-bias-colored glasses: Cindy McCain said today that she expects her husband to clear the record at tonight's debate and let America know where he truly stands. McCain, who stopped to visit a half-dozen children at the Monroe Carell Jr. Children's Hospital at Vanderbilt today, said the presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama has waged the dirtiest campaign in American history, and her husband Sen. John McCain will use tonight's debate to correct the distortions. Well, from where I sit, McCain not only did nothing to correct the distortions, he spoke the single phrase that will be remembered from the debate, and in history about the campaign, That one, used to refer to Obama. I'm reminded of my next-door neighbor growing up in Georgia, who had a separate bathroom for her two black maids because (exact quote), I will never sit on the same toilet seat that has been used by a nigger. The two maids had worked for her for several years, but this woman refused to ever learn their names. When she needed to address them directly, it was always Hey, you! and when she needed to tell her other equally-bigoted neighbors which one was worse (which was often), she literally referred to them as This one and That one. No shit. On the other hand, credit John McCain for adding a new euphemism for nigger to the English language. He couldn't have damaged his campaign more if he had used the real word. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog...
On Oct 8, 2008, at 8:36 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: So consider it a shock on my part as well that John McCain refused to shake hands with a black man during a Presidential debate. He *has* to have known how that would look, and his disdain for Obama and his sense of superiority to him is so strong that he did it anyway. That made me ashamed to be white. Damn, I missed the 2 best moments, the handshake refusal as well as the that one moment...had the debate on but also had to deal with my kids. Hello, Youtube. Sal
[FairfieldLife] McCain to Obama THAT ONE
'Interesting' commentary... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHJ0vdN3194NR=1
[FairfieldLife] McCain to Obama THAT ONE
'Interesting' commentary... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHJ0vdN3194NR=1
[FairfieldLife] McCain Linked to Right-Wing, Nazi-Backed Death Squads
McCain, in glass house, hurls stone... Barack Obama has his William Ayers connection. Now John McCain may have an Iran-Contra connection. In the 1980s, McCain served on the advisory board to the U.S. chapter of an international group linked to ultra-right-wing death squads in Central America. The U.S. Council for World Freedom aided rebels trying to overthrow the leftist government of Nicaragua. That landed the group in the middle of the Iran-Contra affair and in legal trouble with the Internal Revenue Service, which revoked the charitable organization's tax exemption. The council created by retired Army Maj. Gen. John Singlaub was the U.S. chapter of the World Anti-Communist League, an international organization linked to former Nazi collaborators and ultra-right-wing death squads in Central America. After setting up the U.S. council, Singlaub served as the international league's chairman. McCain's tie to Singlaub's council is undergoing renewed scrutiny after his campaign criticized Obama for his link to Ayers, a former radical who engaged in violent acts 40 years ago. Over the weekend, Democratic operative Paul Begala said on ABC's This Week that this guilt by association tactic could backfire on the McCain campaign by renewing discussion of McCain's service on the board of the U.S. Council for World Freedom, an ultraconservative right-wing group. In two interviews with The Associated Press in August and September, Singlaub said McCain became associated with the organization in the early 1980s as McCain launched his political career. McCain was elected to the U.S. House in 1982. Singlaub said McCain was a supporter but not an active member. McCain was a new guy on the block learning the ropes, Singlaub said. I think I met him in the Washington area when he was just a new congressman. We had McCain on the board to make him feel like he wasn't left out. It looks good to have names on a letterhead who are well-known and appreciated. (...) http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/07/politics/main4505539.shtml
[FairfieldLife] Re: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 4:44 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote: I took a lot of drugs for a year or so during my teenage years and got busted twice. Therefore anyone who associates with me now, even occasionally and minimally, is guilty of associating with a drug abuser and criminal. What kind of drugs did you take during that year ? Grass almost daily. Acid maybe 20 times. A little speed. Heroin 2-3 times towards the end. That COULD explain alot.
[FairfieldLife] Fun with genealogy
My brother is a genealogy freak, and has long been obsessed with tracking down our ancestors. This has been complicated by the fact that our father was adopted. He was literally found on a doorstep in 1918, the year that the flu pandemic that killed an estimated 100 million people worldwide started, so we have assumed for some time that his parents died in that pandemic. He was adopted by a Quaker family, but grew up fairly irreligious, and passed that along to me. So did my mother, who was a Presbyterian in name only. She tried to send me to Sunday School, but I was literally kicked out after a few weeks for asking the Sunday School teacher where the woman who supposedly married Cain in the Land of Nod came from. Anyway, my brother just got back from a field trip to Philadelphia, where he tracked down adop- tion and census records that hint that my father was the son of US-born citizens (which spoils our hopes of getting a grandfather clause EU nation passport), but that *their* parents were most likely from Russia, and spoke Yiddish. So cool...I'm Jewish. Oy veh. Not really, of course, since as I understand it Jewish lineage is valid only if passed down matri- linearly, but it's fun to play with a whole new concept -- being at least partly descended from Russian Jews. Mix that in with the established Scot-Irish heritage on my mother's side, and my gene pool is kinda like the result of an unlikely ménage à trois between Sean Connery and Maureen O'Hara and Golda Meir. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Pres. Debate 2- Barack's most notable moment
McCain didn't see it coming - and walked right into it - http://tiny.cc/lNlNk
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 10:18 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal What kind of drugs did you take during that year ? Grass almost daily. Acid maybe 20 times. A little speed. Heroin 2-3 times towards the end. That COULD explain alot. It does. It explains why I appreciate meditation so much. It had a dramatic influence in helping me get my life back together.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Pres. Debate 2- Barack's most notable moment
On Oct 8, 2008, at 10:29 AM, mainstream20016 wrote: McCain didn't see it coming - and walked right into it - I was wondering when Obama was going to bring that up... If McCain leaves the Senate, something tells me he doesn't have much of a future in songwriting... Sal
[FairfieldLife] Obama Smacks McCain Around Again
CBS: Uncommitted Voters Favor Obama 40-26 http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/08/politics/2008debates/main4508430.shtml CNN: Obama won the night 54-30, with Independent's preferring Obama 54-28. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/07/cnn-poll-obama-won-the-night/ NBC: Who Won The Debate? Clean Sweep For Obama 60-40 Survey USA Obama 54-29 Both of the above results here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/07/who-won-the-debate-insta_n_132827.html GQR: Undecided Voters Move Decisively Toward Obama 42-26 http://www.greenbergresearch.com/index.php?ID=2257
[FairfieldLife] Annnnnnnnnd, Worst Debate Ever, My Friends
The Confluence 10/8/08 by madamab Ooof! Was last night awful, or what? Terrible, banal questions. Terrible moderation, with Tom Brokaw sounding like the lockjawed girlfriend of the nephew in Auntie Mame (Top drawer!). Talking points and verbal tics galore from our two candidates (Obama's Ad matched equally with McCain's constant repetition of my friends), with very few standout moments for either. http://tinyurl.com/4vlael http://tinyurl.com/4vlael As in the first debate, the shadow of Hillary loomed large - her energy, her humanity, her solid commitment to Democratic principles, her delicious wonky command of each and every issue - and neither man even came close to matching her, although I was happy to hear McCain espousing her plan to renegotiate mortgages so that homeowners could stay in their homes (a pleasant surprise indeed!). In all honesty, I could barely stay awake through the whole thing. There were a few things to remark upon, however. So let us begin the obligatory post-debate analysis, shall we? (For those who managed to avoid the snoozefest, a full transcript can be found here http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/07/presidential.debate.transcript/ .) Social Security? What was going on here? Brokaw: There are lots of issues that we are going to be dealing with here tonight. And we have a question from Langdon (ph) in Ballston Spa, New York, and that's about huge unfunded obligations for Social Security, Medicare, and other entitlement programs that will soon eat up all of the revenue that's in place and then go into a deficit position. Since the rules are pretty loose here, I'm going to add my own to this one. Instead of having a discussion, let me ask you as a coda to that. Would you give Congress a date certain to reform Social Security and Medicare within two years after you take office? Because in a bipartisan way, everyone agrees, that's a big ticking time bomb that will eat us up maybe even more than the mortgage crisis. Giant. Red. Flag. Alert! Calling Social Security and Medicare entitlement programs is neither accurate nor conducive to constructive reforms. Social Security and Medicare are part of a social safety net that prevents millions of our citizens from falling into desperate poverty. Moreover, these programs are being paid for through taxes, and every working person pays into them. There is nothing entitled about people who receive the benefits they have earned. It is true that Medicare is in trouble, and it could become a problem soon if not dealt with, after eight years of malign neglect by the Bush administration. (Medicare was only saved from disastrous cuts recently by the appearance of an ailing Ted Kennedy, who shored up Senate opposition and helped defeat the plan http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2008/07/09/as-kennedy-returns-senate-votes-\ to-block-medicare-pay-cut-for-doctors/ .) Social Security is not anywhere near in the same trouble as Medicare http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=732068 . It is disingenuous and ridiculous to claim otherwise, much less for Brokaw to search his rear end and pull out some sort of bipartisan agreement. As Hillary said often, Saying that Social Security is in crisis is a rightwing talking point. So why the panic, Tom? Perhaps because Mr. Brokaw comes from ONBC, the network most obviously in the tank for Obama this year. And Barack Obama himself was more than happy to jump on that privatization, er, reform, bandwagon right along with Tom. Obama: Well, Tom, we're going to have to take on entitlements and I think we've got to do it quickly. We're going to have a lot of work to do, so I can't guarantee that we're going to do it in the next two years, but I'd like to do in the my first term as president. Did he say, These are not entitlement programs, Tom, I'm going to have to object to that terminology there? Of course not. That's because he agrees with the rightwing frame of that issue. Reassuring. Then, did actually say how he was going to do this? No. He segued immediately into his I'm going to cut your taxes routine. To his credit, he is now saying he will cut 95% of taxes for working Americans. Someone must have told him that people who are unemployed or below the poverty line actually do not pay taxes. Maybe it was Michelle! (We'll get to that shortly.) Let's just say that I do not want Senator Obama, he who surrounds himself with neoliberal economic advisors, working on Social Security or Medicare. Heaven only knows what he will come up with. McCain's answer was actually a lot better. I was shocked. McCain: Social Security is not that tough. We know what the problems are, my friends, and we know what the fixes are. We've got to sit down together across the table. It's been done before. I saw it done with our our wonderful Ronald Reagan, a conservative from California, and the liberal Democrat Tip O'Neill from Massachusetts. That's what we need more of, and that's what I've done in Washington.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'That one' made physical...McCain wouldn't even shake Obama's hand
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI0iIOqPGak I'm sorry, but John McCain is a cunt. I'm starting to think that Sarah Palin has taken advantage of his weak mind and tendency to let others tell him how to think, and that as a result he now agrees with her that Obama is Satan. Actually, he did shake hands with Obama, but most of the networks missed it. TPM has the video from ABC, I think. Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 8, 2008, at 8:36 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: So consider it a shock on my part as well that John McCain refused to shake hands with a black man during a Presidential debate. He *has* to have known how that would look, and his disdain for Obama and his sense of superiority to him is so strong that he did it anyway. That made me ashamed to be white. Damn, I missed the 2 best moments, the handshake refusal as well as the that one moment...had the debate on but also had to deal with my kids. Hello, Youtube. McCain DID shake hands with Obama. However, watch Cindy McCain's body language as she strolls among the peons. Lawson
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog...
On Oct 8, 2008, at 11:00 AM, sparaig wrote: McCain DID shake hands with Obama. However, watch Cindy McCain's body language as she strolls among the peons. Got a link? Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'That one' made physical...McCain wouldn't even shake Obama's hand
Were we watching the same TV? I saw them shake hands at the beginning. The debate was so boring I fell asleep about an hour into it and can't say if they shook hands at the end. I was a wake and flinched when McCain said that one. Creepy. I thought he was disrespectful and knew he would never hear the end of it. They both suck! McCain sucks because he's a Republican and can't help it. Obama doesn't know if he's a Republican or a Democrat. I get whiplash just trying to keep up with his flip flops. He sucks because he doesn't know who he is and neither do we. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've lost all respect for McCain. What an asshole, not even shaking hands with Obama. He's going to loose. --- On Wed, 10/8/08, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'That one' made physical...McCain wouldn't even shake Obama's hand To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 7:12 AM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI0iIOqPGak I'm sorry, but John McCain is a cunt. I'm starting to think that Sarah Palin has taken advantage of his weak mind and tendency to let others tell him how to think, and that as a result he now agrees with her that Obama is Satan. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'That one' made physical...McCain wouldn't even shake Obama's hand
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of raunchydog Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 11:28 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'That one' made physical...McCain wouldn't even shake Obama's hand Were we watching the same TV? I saw them shake hands at the beginning. The debate was so boring I fell asleep about an hour into it and can't say if they shook hands at the end. At the end Obama extended his hand and McCain ignored him, so Obama shook Cindy's hand: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI0iIOqPGak
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog...
Sal Sunshine wrote: On Oct 8, 2008, at 8:36 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: So consider it a shock on my part as well that John McCain refused to shake hands with a black man during a Presidential debate. He *has* to have known how that would look, and his disdain for Obama and his sense of superiority to him is so strong that he did it anyway. That made me ashamed to be white. Damn, I missed the 2 best moments, the handshake refusal as well as the that one moment...had the debate on but also had to deal with my kids. Hello, Youtube. Sal I didn't see the handshake refusal but did see the that one reference and thought it was abhorrent. I thought maybe he had a senior moment and couldn't remember Obama's name (these days were all getting there). But the 11 o'clock news even used that moment in clips of they showed. McCain shouldn't be running. He just looked like a tired and grumpy old man. To me it just says the RNC felt they couldn't win this election and let McCain have his last hurrah. Otherwise they probably would have run Romney. I think it's all downhill for the Republicans from here. And damn well time for those scum.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog...
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bhairitu Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 11:43 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog... To me it just says the RNC felt they couldn't win this election and let McCain have his last hurrah. Otherwise they probably would have run Romney. Did the RNC choose? Seems to me the voters did, in the primary.
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 8, 2008, at 8:36 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: So consider it a shock on my part as well that John McCain refused to shake hands with a black man during a Presidential debate. He *has* to have known how that would look, and his disdain for Obama and his sense of superiority to him is so strong that he did it anyway. That made me ashamed to be white. Damn, I missed the 2 best moments, the handshake refusal as well as the that one moment...had the debate on but also had to deal with my kids. Hello, Youtube. Sal McCain refers to Obama as that one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNzA9LfMlmU McCain wouldn't shake Obama's hand here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI0iIOqPGak
[FairfieldLife] Re: Now Palin will really look like an amateur
Curtis wrote: ...we are all Joe Six Packs to her. Maybe, but if she read some of these messages she would get the impression that some here think they are 'elites', so much better than Gov. Palin.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Feste is to Turq as John is to Sal
John wrote: Obama and Palmer were both there, he said. So, Obama went to Bernadine Dohrn's house. And later he tried to deny it by saying that she was just someone who lived in the neighborhood. In fact, Bernadine was Obama's pal who helped him get started in politics. That's just outrageous! Obama went to the home of an admitted domestic terrorist. That's reason enough NOT to vote for Obama - Obama is obviously soft on terrorism.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog...
Rick Archer wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bhairitu Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 11:43 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog... To me it just says the RNC felt they couldn't win this election and let McCain have his last hurrah. Otherwise they probably would have run Romney. Did the RNC choose? Seems to me the voters did, in the primary. You're probably right but usually elephants get herded a certain direction. ;-) And then there would have been the caucuses which are not like primaries. And I think Romney and others dropped out before the convention. CNN showed a view of Republicans somewhere watching the debate and Democrats somewhere watching the debate. I'd love to have had a picture of those two views side by side. In years past you would have seen a bunch of business like people at the Republican gatherings whereas last night it looked like a Beavis and Butthead crowd. The Democrat's crowd looked way smarter.
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog...
So consider it a shock on my part as well that John McCain refused to shake hands with a black man during a Presidential debate. He *has* to have known how that would look, and his disdain for Obama and his sense of superiority to him is so strong that he did it anyway. That made me ashamed to be white. I missed the debate. But McCain's gesture may be intended to say that he's in to fight the enemy to the end. It may have been calculated to make a statement since his campaign is lagging behind. We should watch the news analysis how that gesture was perceived-- either good or bad.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog...
On Oct 8, 2008, at 11:54 AM, do.rflex wrote: McCain refers to Obama as that one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNzA9LfMlmU McCain wouldn't shake Obama's hand here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI0iIOqPGak Thanks. Wow, unbelievable... Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CNN showed a view of Republicans somewhere watching the debate and Democrats somewhere watching the debate. I'd love to have had a picture of those two views side by side. In years past you would have seen a bunch of business like people at the Republican gatherings whereas last night it looked like a Beavis and Butthead crowd. The Democrat's crowd looked way smarter. I noticed the same thing. The fascinating thing from my perspective, trying to read energy signatures as much as one can via television, is that all of the Republican viewers they showed in these clips can be described, energy-wise, in one word: AFRAID. The fear just *poured* off of them. And look at some of the folks here who seem to have jumped on the Obama is a terrorist bandwagon. The fear just *pours* off of them, too. It's like they are dogs who have been taught by some mad Republican Pavlov to cringe in fear the moment they hear the words terrorism or terrorist. They lose all ability to think, and just automatically say to the person who has said the code word, Ok, I'm afraid...I'm salivating...do whatever you want, as long as it makes me less afraid. I get the feeling that some of these people -- like Willytex and Raunchydog -- would allow Homeland Sec- urity to cart their MOTHERS away to Guantanamo if someone in power or in the media called them a terrorist. They wouldn't hesitate for a moment; in fact, they'd probably help the Homeland Security guys dope her to keep her quiet as they dragged her to the car. Just go quietly, Mom...it'll be better for all of us. It's the same kind of Pavlovian, knee-jerk reaction we see in Shemp when anyone mentions the words social- ism or communism. He loses the ability think rationally, and can only rant. (Shemp is an old-school dog, still stuck on the code word commie, and who hasn't caught up to the newer, more modern code word, terrorist.) As far as I can tell, this reaction CAN be described using the term Pavlovian response. It's not the kind of response that anyone is born with; it has to be trained into you. And it has been. There is a certain percentage of the U.S. population that would *gladly* ship their mothers to Guantanamo if someone on TV called Mom a terrorist. So when they hear someone on TV claim that Obama is a terrorist, are they going to hesitate for a moment, or do any fact-checking? Of course they aren't. They're going to vote with their fear, just as the people saying these things expect them to. And there is not much that any of us can do about this, because the cringing dogs have been so thoroughly trained to do this that now they can't NOT do it. The only thing we can hope for is that there aren't enough of these trained dogs to swing an election.
[FairfieldLife] Princeton University Town of New Jersey for Obama
Last Sunday, we attended an Advaita Satsang in Princeton New jersey; perhaps the first advaita satsang there. It was a beautiful sunny day, the satsang was over by 3pm. We decided to go for a long walk in the residential area around the campus. We saw 23 Obama signs and zip for McCain. Also, 4 signs War Is Not The Answer by http://www.fcnl.org/wina/whatis.htm
[FairfieldLife] Walnuts
I heard that someone in FF wants the black walnuts that fall off the trees around here (many in our yard) and will come and get them from you. It's a shame to throw them away, as we've been doing. Sometimes I drive them to a local park and dump them for the squirrels. But they're good eating for people, if you go to the trouble of shelling them. Anyone know who that person is who'll pick them up?
[FairfieldLife] Idle speculation as to why the Repugs are trying to link Obama with terroism
The thing is, there really AREN'T enough of these I'm-a-good-Pavlov's-dog-so-just-say-the-word-terrorist- and-I'll-do-anything-you-want fear-driven voters to swing the election against Obama if things stay as they are today. But if there were to be a real terrorist event between now and the election, staged by BushCo and McCain and the neocon madmen behind them, taking place on American soil, how many otherwise sane people would suddenly remember the link that the Repugs have tried to establish between Obama and terrorism *then*, eh? Would the Repugs do such a thing? Of course they would, if they thought they could get away with it. The only question is whether they think they could get away with it. IMO, all it would take is one small bioweapon set off in a shopping mall, and blamed on an Arab with dark skin who had been set up to take the fall, and Obama would be toast. Of course this is pure science-fiction speculation on my part, and I hope that nothing like this ever happens. The thing is, in today's America, it could. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: CNN showed a view of Republicans somewhere watching the debate and Democrats somewhere watching the debate. I'd love to have had a picture of those two views side by side. In years past you would have seen a bunch of business like people at the Republican gatherings whereas last night it looked like a Beavis and Butthead crowd. The Democrat's crowd looked way smarter. I noticed the same thing. The fascinating thing from my perspective, trying to read energy signatures as much as one can via television, is that all of the Republican viewers they showed in these clips can be described, energy-wise, in one word: AFRAID. The fear just *poured* off of them. And look at some of the folks here who seem to have jumped on the Obama is a terrorist bandwagon. The fear just *pours* off of them, too. It's like they are dogs who have been taught by some mad Republican Pavlov to cringe in fear the moment they hear the words terrorism or terrorist. They lose all ability to think, and just automatically say to the person who has said the code word, Ok, I'm afraid...I'm salivating...do whatever you want, as long as it makes me less afraid. I get the feeling that some of these people -- like Willytex and Raunchydog -- would allow Homeland Sec- urity to cart their MOTHERS away to Guantanamo if someone in power or in the media called them a terrorist. They wouldn't hesitate for a moment; in fact, they'd probably help the Homeland Security guys dope her to keep her quiet as they dragged her to the car. Just go quietly, Mom...it'll be better for all of us. It's the same kind of Pavlovian, knee-jerk reaction we see in Shemp when anyone mentions the words social- ism or communism. He loses the ability think rationally, and can only rant. (Shemp is an old-school dog, still stuck on the code word commie, and who hasn't caught up to the newer, more modern code word, terrorist.) As far as I can tell, this reaction CAN be described using the term Pavlovian response. It's not the kind of response that anyone is born with; it has to be trained into you. And it has been. There is a certain percentage of the U.S. population that would *gladly* ship their mothers to Guantanamo if someone on TV called Mom a terrorist. So when they hear someone on TV claim that Obama is a terrorist, are they going to hesitate for a moment, or do any fact-checking? Of course they aren't. They're going to vote with their fear, just as the people saying these things expect them to. And there is not much that any of us can do about this, because the cringing dogs have been so thoroughly trained to do this that now they can't NOT do it. The only thing we can hope for is that there aren't enough of these trained dogs to swing an election.
[FairfieldLife] McCain's Real Estate despiration pander ( did I mention it is insane?)
Bunch of people defaulting on their mortgages. Some are due to the fact that their property value is now less than their mortgage. Like a bad car deal they are upside down in their house. So what is Mr. Mcfix-it gunna do? Announcing a half baked plan during his debate, he claims to be able to buy up the mortgages and then renegotiate the mortgage to match the house value. Sound simple? It is! Simple-minded. When the real estate market was rocking it had built up a massive infrastructure of loan underwriters who are the humans with the expertise necessary to evaluate these new mortgages. They could hardly keep up with the boom and the whole system slowed down. With McCains plan most homeowners in America would want a mortgage reduction wouldn't they? Even if you have standards to apply, you have to apply them to each case. So one guy is in over their head on the mortgage and is getting foreclosed on. McCain to the rescue, saves his home! What a hero. Then every other person on that street defaults on their mortgage because they are getting screwed by their neighbor's mortgage reduction which would allow him to sell his house for much less and it will drive down real estate prices for everyone! Thanks John! Super! And these new mortgages would need forensic accounting and underwriting because so many loans made were stated income or fraud loans. Without this level of underwriting the value of the mortgage backed securities made up of these new mortgages would be almost zero. In other words, McCain claims he is going to re-do millions of loans better this time. He is going to do it all right this time. And all without any infrastructure of loan experts who have fled the field. So is he gunna train new people to do it all? And what institutions are gunna hold the paper that were re-negotiated? BTW do you think fraud could creep into such a massive project? Ya think? This is only the beginning of the bullshittery contained in his claim. It is cockamamie pandering and if implemented will cause the current real estate turmoil to extend through the decade. It will further depress home values in all the major markets. And all on OUR dime! Typical McCain to try to reduce a complex problem into a slogan and get it all wrong in his haste to pander to a small group. Just like he did by hastily picking Sarah Green Acres Palin. Mr. Bad Judgment Grumpy Pants would be a disaster in the White House.
[FairfieldLife] Jefferson County Supervisors
Email going around: October 6, 2008 Dear Friends, I am writing to you not as a Republican or a Democrat but as a very concerned citizen of Jefferson County. Recently a group of men were drinking coffee at Hy-Vee and discussing the county supervisor race. A woman from the meditating community heard them and said to them, We are going to take over this county and there is nothing you can do about it. That statement is true if we don't defeat the two meditators running for county supervisors. William Richards and Earl Shepard are the candidates for Jefferson County Supervisor on the Democrat ticket. These men are associated with MUM and the meditating movement. They will not represent you and your tax dollars with regard to county business. During the past year the meditating community has attempted to give tax breaks to organic farmers, stop livestock production and use eminent domain to take farm land.They have demolished historical landmarks on the Parsons College campus because of the building design. If they controlled the county dollars would they demolish our hundred year old courthouse? The meditating community is mounting a well organized effort to put their candidates in power. It is very important for us to take action and vote. Also... spread the word to your neighbors, friends and family. Be sure to vote for Stephen Burgmeier and Lee Dimmitt, long time Jefferson County residents. Also, spread the word to your neighbors, friends and family. Thank you Dave Dickey
[FairfieldLife] Welcome to the New Communism......worldwide.
Welcome to the New Communism..worldwide. Courtesy of the mentally insane Neocons: By JEANNINE AVERSA, Associated Press Economic Writer WASHINGTON - In a rare coordinated move, the Federal Reserve and other major central banks from around the world slashed interest rates Wednesday to prevent a mushrooming financial crisis from becoming a global economic meltdown. Overseas markets tumbled on worries that the move wouldn't immediately help ease the pain from the financial crisis. U.S. share prices seesawed, with some investors buying a few beaten down shares, but most still gloomy about the economy's prospects. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081008/ap_on_bi_ge/financial_meltdown http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081008/ap_on_bi_ge/financial_meltdown OffWorld
Re: [FairfieldLife] McCain's Real Estate despiration pander ( did I mention it is insane?)
On Oct 8, 2008, at 1:46 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Typical McCain to try to reduce a complex problem into a slogan and get it all wrong in his haste to pander to a small group. Just like he did by hastily picking Sarah Green Acres Palin. I take exception to that comment. Sarah has always been more of a Petticoat Junction kinda gal! This attempt to lump her in with the upscale Hooterville crowd is just another 'poisoning the well' tactic.
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 8, 2008, at 11:00 AM, sparaig wrote: McCain DID shake hands with Obama. However, watch Cindy McCain's body language as she strolls among the peons. Got a link? Sal At the bottom, you see where they DO shake hands at the very end of the debate. In the top video, McCain kinda avoids shaking his hand again, but he redirects obama to shake Cindy McCain's hand. Watch how she holds her hands as she moves around the room. She has her hands like that the entire time unless she's shaking someone's hand (Brokaw and Obama only, not even Michelle). http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/222684.php
[FairfieldLife] Overposting Ban
From now on, when someone gets banned for overposting, the ban will cover not just one calendar week from the day they overposted, but the remainder of that week, plus the entire following week, Friday to Friday. So for instance, Shemp, who overposted yesterday, will be out until a week from Friday - i.e., midnight on the 17th.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog...
On Oct 8, 2008, at 1:08 PM, sparaig wrote: At the bottom, you see where they DO shake hands at the very end of the debate. In the top video, McCain kinda avoids shaking his hand again, but he redirects obama to shake Cindy McCain's hand. Watch how she holds her hands as she moves around the room. She has her hands like that the entire time unless she's shaking someone's hand (Brokaw and Obama only, not even Michelle). The explanation they had up on TPM was that since they had already shaken hands, McCain was presenting his wife to Obama. That makes a lot more sense, since it was McCain who initiated the contact, and appeared to simply be redirecting Obama to his wife rather than refusing to acknowledge him. In fact, they not only shook hands previous to that but even embraced. Group hug, everyone! :) Cindy is probably so uncomfortable in these situations she doesn't really know what to do... Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Overposting Ban
On Oct 8, 2008, at 1:09 PM, Rick Archer wrote: From now on, when someone gets banned for overposting, the ban will cover not just one calendar week from the day they overposted, but the remainder of that week, plus the entire following week, Friday to Friday. So for instance, Shemp, who overposted yesterday, will be out until a week from Friday – i.e., midnight on the 17th. Yavol, Herr Rick! Sal (Channeling shemp here...)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fun with genealogy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My brother is a genealogy freak, and has long been obsessed with tracking down our ancestors. This has been complicated by the fact that our father was adopted. He was literally found on a doorstep in 1918, the year that the flu pandemic that killed an estimated 100 million people worldwide started, so we have assumed for some time that his parents died in that pandemic. He was adopted by a Quaker family, but grew up fairly irreligious, and passed that along to me. So did my mother, who was a Presbyterian in name only. She tried to send me to Sunday School, but I was literally kicked out after a few weeks for asking the Sunday School teacher where the woman who supposedly married Cain in the Land of Nod came from. Anyway, my brother just got back from a field trip to Philadelphia, where he tracked down adop- tion and census records that hint that my father was the son of US-born citizens (which spoils our hopes of getting a grandfather clause EU nation passport), but that *their* parents were most likely from Russia, and spoke Yiddish. So cool...I'm Jewish. Oy veh. Not really, of course, since as I understand it Jewish lineage is valid only if passed down matri- linearly, but it's fun to play with a whole new concept -- being at least partly descended from Russian Jews. Mix that in with the established Scot-Irish heritage on my mother's side, and my gene pool is kinda like the result of an unlikely ménage à trois between Sean Connery and Maureen O'Hara and Golda Meir. :-) Cool, I'm waiting for a website where you just type in your name and birthday and it gives you a list all the way back to Adam. As it is I haven't had any luck, a shame becasue you never know what mysteries are lurking in your genes. I'd be most fascinated to find out my maternal lineage but my nobody knows exactly where my Great grandfather came from, all we know is that he's from the Scottish Highlands and came down south to fight in the great war and had to lie about his age and whereabouts otherwise they wouldn't have let him into the army. Amazingly common behaviour apparently, he could have been 14-15 even. Trouble is he hardly ever told anyone where he was from and none of the family know, so it's a dead end.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fun with genealogy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My brother is a genealogy freak, and has long been obsessed with tracking down our ancestors. This has been complicated by the fact that our father was adopted. I was adopted, and my only interest is knowing my biological background. Last winter, I became aware of https://www.23andme.com/ and their DNA testing service, however, the cost was $1000 and all I did was bookmark the site. Well, last week I went back to the site and saw that a few weeks ago they dropped the price to $400. Yay! In a few weeks I'll know something about my maternal and paternal ancestry as well as a whole bunch of genetic traits.
[FairfieldLife] Fly on the wall
So after my morning walk I stop off at the local Starbucks and take my drink to a table on the patio. At the table next to me is a small group having a meeting. I didn't pay much attention at first since there are often people, especially from the county offices across the street, who hold small meetings there. Then I realized that in this particular group was my congressman. He was discussing bailout issues with some of the local council people (and possibly a state assemblyman). Okay that would have been an excellent chance to ask about the martial law threat but being polite I didn't want to butt in. I didn't have to as the meeting was winding down they asked him about the pressures put on congress to pass the bill. He said something (as far as I could tell) that the first three page bill nobody wanted to pass (and something to the extent it was written that that way for that purpose). He did say something to the extent when they asked about communication with Bush at the time but that the Bush administration was throwing some shock stuff at them to get the bill passed and something that Bush was under pressure from his global alliances to get it passed (I still have the video of Bush's speech to the nation selling the damn thing and noted how freaked he seemed to be). Some of the other people meeting mentioned some threats that other politicians they knew got like pass the bill or we'll make sure you don't get elected next time. Not everyday something like this happens and here I was having a toss up in my mind before I left the park I walk in as to which Starbucks I was going to and I guess I picked the right one. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Jefferson County Supervisors
The Ru's only have themselves to blame for this sort of nonsense. They have treated townies like shit whenever there was a conflict and this is what happens. --- On Wed, 10/8/08, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Jefferson County Supervisors To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 1:53 PM Email going around: October 6, 2008 Dear Friends, I am writing to you not as a Republican or a Democrat but as a very concerned citizen of Jefferson County. Recently a group of men were drinking coffee at Hy-Vee and discussing the county supervisor race. A woman from the meditating community heard them and said to them, “We are going to take over this county and there is nothing you can do about it”. That statement is true if we don’t defeat the two meditators running for county supervisors. William Richards and Earl Shepard are the candidates for Jefferson County Supervisor on the Democrat ticket. These men are associated with MUM and the meditating movement. They will not represent you and your tax dollars with regard to county business. During the past year the meditating community has attempted to give tax breaks to organic farmers, stop livestock production and use eminent domain to take farm land.They have demolished historical landmarks on the Parsons College campus because of the building design. If they controlled the county dollars would they demolish our hundred year old courthouse? The meditating community is mounting a well organized effort to put their candidates in power. It is very important for us to take action and vote. Also….. spread the word to your neighbors, friends and family. Be sure to vote for Stephen Burgmeier and Lee Dimmitt, long time Jefferson County residents. Also, spread the word to your neighbors, friends and family. Thank you Dave Dickey
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 8, 2008, at 8:36 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: So consider it a shock on my part as well that John McCain refused to shake hands with a black man during a Presidential debate. He *has* to have known how that would look, and his disdain for Obama and his sense of superiority to him is so strong that he did it anyway. That made me ashamed to be white. Damn, I missed the 2 best moments, the handshake refusal as well as the that one moment...had the debate on but also had to deal with my kids. Hello, Youtube. Sal And you say *I* make excuses? ;-) Get on the stick girl. just kidding Are your kids old enough to appreciate history being made before their eyes? I was 5 years old when JFK was murdered. I remember it clearly but in sepia colored images. The emotions of the adults are still vivid. I was 10 when RJK MLK fell and 11 when Apollo 11 landed. TV generation huh? To this day I carry the contrasting shock and wonder of those memories. I think the emotions expressed by the adults around me as the events occurred are in large part responsible for the lasting nature of the memories. Watching McCain's actions did not make me ashamed to be white. I was, however, surprised at how inept he is in his attempt to attain his goal. Potomac fever can reveal some strange things.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fun with genealogy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 8, 2008, at 2:26 PM, Hugo wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: My brother is a genealogy freak, and has long been obsessed with tracking down our ancestors. This has been complicated by the fact that our father was adopted. He was literally found on a doorstep in 1918, the year that the flu pandemic that killed an estimated 100 million people worldwide started, so we have assumed for some time that his parents died in that pandemic. He was adopted by a Quaker family, but grew up fairly irreligious, and passed that along to me. So did my mother, who was a Presbyterian in name only. She tried to send me to Sunday School, but I was literally kicked out after a few weeks for asking the Sunday School teacher where the woman who supposedly married Cain in the Land of Nod came from. Anyway, my brother just got back from a field trip to Philadelphia, where he tracked down adop- tion and census records that hint that my father was the son of US-born citizens (which spoils our hopes of getting a grandfather clause EU nation passport), but that *their* parents were most likely from Russia, and spoke Yiddish. So cool...I'm Jewish. Oy veh. Not really, of course, since as I understand it Jewish lineage is valid only if passed down matri- linearly, but it's fun to play with a whole new concept -- being at least partly descended from Russian Jews. Mix that in with the established Scot-Irish heritage on my mother's side, and my gene pool is kinda like the result of an unlikely ménage à trois between Sean Connery and Maureen O'Hara and Golda Meir. :-) Cool, I'm waiting for a website where you just type in your name and birthday and it gives you a list all the way back to Adam. As it is I haven't had any luck, a shame becasue you never know what mysteries are lurking in your genes. I'd be most fascinated to find out my maternal lineage but my nobody knows exactly where my Great grandfather came from, all we know is that he's from the Scottish Highlands and came down south to fight in the great war and had to lie about his age and whereabouts otherwise they wouldn't have let him into the army. Amazingly common behaviour apparently, he could have been 14-15 even. Trouble is he hardly ever told anyone where he was from and none of the family know, so it's a dead end. The largest database of world genealogy is kept by the Mormons in Utah. A couple of years ago we were contacted by a forensic genealogist and an estate attorney from Utah. Apparently we had a lost relative who had died with no children. These people had tracked down the entire family tree--a hundred or so people--and distributed the estate based on available records and forensic genealogy. Pretty amazing to see, as they forwarded to us the entire family tree on this side of the family. Wow, that is really something. I didn't know they could do that. Maybe I'll hire me a forensic genealogist to sort it out. Would the Mormons have UK stuff though?
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog...
Turq wrote: So consider it a shock on my part as well that John McCain refused to shake hands with a black man during a Presidential debate. Lawson wrote: McCain DID shake hands with Obama. Well, that pretty much settles it - Turq is crazy and very much uninformed. Judy was right - this Turq doesn't have a clue. Obviously, he didn't see the debate.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fun with genealogy
On Oct 8, 2008, at 2:53 PM, Hugo wrote: Wow, that is really something. I didn't know they could do that. Maybe I'll hire me a forensic genealogist to sort it out. Would the Mormons have UK stuff though? Dunno, but I wouldn't be surprised, as all Mormons are encouraged to learn their family tree and Mormonism is a worldwide movement.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fun with genealogy
On Oct 8, 2008, at 2:26 PM, Hugo wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My brother is a genealogy freak, and has long been obsessed with tracking down our ancestors. This has been complicated by the fact that our father was adopted. He was literally found on a doorstep in 1918, the year that the flu pandemic that killed an estimated 100 million people worldwide started, so we have assumed for some time that his parents died in that pandemic. He was adopted by a Quaker family, but grew up fairly irreligious, and passed that along to me. So did my mother, who was a Presbyterian in name only. She tried to send me to Sunday School, but I was literally kicked out after a few weeks for asking the Sunday School teacher where the woman who supposedly married Cain in the Land of Nod came from. Anyway, my brother just got back from a field trip to Philadelphia, where he tracked down adop- tion and census records that hint that my father was the son of US-born citizens (which spoils our hopes of getting a grandfather clause EU nation passport), but that *their* parents were most likely from Russia, and spoke Yiddish. So cool...I'm Jewish. Oy veh. Not really, of course, since as I understand it Jewish lineage is valid only if passed down matri- linearly, but it's fun to play with a whole new concept -- being at least partly descended from Russian Jews. Mix that in with the established Scot-Irish heritage on my mother's side, and my gene pool is kinda like the result of an unlikely ménage à trois between Sean Connery and Maureen O'Hara and Golda Meir. :-) Cool, I'm waiting for a website where you just type in your name and birthday and it gives you a list all the way back to Adam. As it is I haven't had any luck, a shame becasue you never know what mysteries are lurking in your genes. I'd be most fascinated to find out my maternal lineage but my nobody knows exactly where my Great grandfather came from, all we know is that he's from the Scottish Highlands and came down south to fight in the great war and had to lie about his age and whereabouts otherwise they wouldn't have let him into the army. Amazingly common behaviour apparently, he could have been 14-15 even. Trouble is he hardly ever told anyone where he was from and none of the family know, so it's a dead end. The largest database of world genealogy is kept by the Mormons in Utah. A couple of years ago we were contacted by a forensic genealogist and an estate attorney from Utah. Apparently we had a lost relative who had died with no children. These people had tracked down the entire family tree--a hundred or so people--and distributed the estate based on available records and forensic genealogy. Pretty amazing to see, as they forwarded to us the entire family tree on this side of the family.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fun with genealogy
On Oct 8, 2008, at 1:26 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: I was adopted, and my only interest is knowing my biological background. Last winter, I became aware of https://www.23andme.com/ and their DNA testing service, however, the cost was $1000 and all I did was bookmark the site. Well, last week I went back to the site and saw that a few weeks ago they dropped the price to $400. Yay! In a few weeks I'll know something about my maternal and paternal ancestry as well as a whole bunch of genetic traits. Why not just go here: http://tinyurl.com/a72th You can do each side for only $100 each. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog...
On Oct 8, 2008, at 1:51 PM, Tom wrote: Damn, I missed the 2 best moments, the handshake refusal as well as the that one moment...had the debate on but also had to deal with my kids. Hello, Youtube. Sal And you say *I* make excuses? ;-) Get on the stick girl. just kidding Are your kids old enough to appreciate history being made before their eyes? I was 5 years old when JFK was murdered. I remember it clearly but in sepia colored images. Sepia? I thought you were born in the 20th century, Tom, not the 19th. The emotions of the adults are still vivid. I was 10 when RJK MLK fell and 11 when Apollo 11 landed. TV generation huh? To this day I carry the contrasting shock and wonder of those memories. I think the emotions expressed by the adults around me as the events occurred are in large part responsible for the lasting nature of the memories. Watching McCain's actions did not make me ashamed to be white. I was, however, surprised at how inept he is in his attempt to attain his goal. Potomac fever can reveal some strange things. The handshake thing was clearly a misunderstanding. And I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and say that That one was a poorly-worded choice and not reflective of some inherent prejudice on McCain's part. Actually, now I kind of feel sorry for the guy, he's so clearly out of his depth. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog...
John wrote: McCain wouldn't shake Obama's hand here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI0iIOqPGak Obama and McCain had ALREADY shaken hands, at the end of the debate.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Smacks McCain Around Again
I would postulate that the movement we are seeing in the polls is because up until a couple of weeks ago 80% of the voting population had decided while the remaining 20%, largely swing and independent voters, had not. The prior fluidity in the polls was the movement in opinion, both ways, of that 20%. That key 20 % is now rapidly coalescing, largely for Obama. No clear correlation exists, but the beginning of the time frame in which the polls substantively firmed was the Monday that McCain declared that the fundamentals of the economy are sound. Again, not not cause and effect but the timing is clear. I mailed my early ballot yesterday and settled in to watch the debate and history being made. The process is fascinating to me. Reading the signs of the times. In my small neighborhood an occasional Obama yard sign sprouts and is gone gone in 24 hours. It is almost metaphorical that they disappear during the darkness of night. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CBS: Uncommitted Voters Favor Obama 40-26 http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/08/politics/2008debates/main4508430.shtml CNN: Obama won the night 54-30, with Independent's preferring Obama 54-28. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/07/cnn-poll-obama-won-the-night/ NBC: Who Won The Debate? Clean Sweep For Obama 60-40 Survey USA Obama 54-29 Both of the above results here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/07/who-won-the-debate- insta_n_132827.html GQR: Undecided Voters Move Decisively Toward Obama 42-26 http://www.greenbergresearch.com/index.php?ID=2257
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Supervisors
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Ru's only have themselves to blame for this sort of nonsense. They have treated townies like shit whenever there was a conflict and this is what happens. It was an out-of-town Ru firing up anti-townie sentiment with a single email that got the two Rus on the ballot in the first place. So, the anti-Ru backlash is to be expected. The biggest bummer is that there were two locals running in the Dem. primary who would have been well respected by both Rus and locals. With the two Rus on the ballot, there are probably a lot of local Dems who will vote for the two local GOP supervisors.
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick Archer wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bhairitu Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 11:43 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog... To me it just says the RNC felt they couldn't win this election and let McCain have his last hurrah. Otherwise they probably would have run Romney. Did the RNC choose? Seems to me the voters did, in the primary. You're probably right but usually elephants get herded a certain direction. ;-) And donkeys don't? And then there would have been the caucuses which are not like primaries. And I think Romney and others dropped out before the convention. CNN showed a view of Republicans somewhere watching the debate and Democrats somewhere watching the debate. I'd love to have had a picture of those two views side by side. In years past you would have seen a bunch of business like people at the Republican gatherings whereas last night it looked like a Beavis and Butthead crowd. The Democrat's crowd looked way smarter.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Smacks McCain Around Again
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 2:18 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Smacks McCain Around Again The process is fascinating to me. Reading the signs of the times. In my small neighborhood an occasional Obama yard sign sprouts and is gone gone in 24 hours. It is almost metaphorical that they disappear during the darkness of night. What part of the country do you live in?
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog...
Turq wrote: So consider it a shock on my part as well that John McCain refused to shake hands with a black man during a Presidential debate. He *has* to have known how that would look, and his disdain for Obama and his sense of superiority to him is so strong that he did it anyway. That made me ashamed to be white. John wrote: We should watch the news analysis how that gesture was perceived--either good or bad. Somebody is really confused! I've seen nothing in the news analysis about McCain refusing to shake Obama's hand in the Presidential debate. http://www.drudgereport.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Idle speculation as to why the Repugs are trying to link Obama with terroism
TurquoiseB wrote: The thing is, there really AREN'T enough of these I'm-a-good-Pavlov's-dog-so-just-say-the-word-terrorist- and-I'll-do-anything-you-want fear-driven voters to swing the election against Obama if things stay as they are today. But if there were to be a real terrorist event between now and the election, staged by BushCo and McCain and the neocon madmen behind them, taking place on American soil, how many otherwise sane people would suddenly remember the link that the Repugs have tried to establish between Obama and terrorism *then*, eh? Would the Repugs do such a thing? Of course they would, if they thought they could get away with it. The only question is whether they think they could get away with it. IMO, all it would take is one small bioweapon set off in a shopping mall, and blamed on an Arab with dark skin who had been set up to take the fall, and Obama would be toast. Of course this is pure science-fiction speculation on my part, and I hope that nothing like this ever happens. The thing is, in today's America, it could. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: CNN showed a view of Republicans somewhere watching the debate and Democrats somewhere watching the debate. I'd love to have had a picture of those two views side by side. In years past you would have seen a bunch of business like people at the Republican gatherings whereas last night it looked like a Beavis and Butthead crowd. The Democrat's crowd looked way smarter. I noticed the same thing. The fascinating thing from my perspective, trying to read energy signatures as much as one can via television, is that all of the Republican viewers they showed in these clips can be described, energy-wise, in one word: AFRAID. The fear just *poured* off of them. And look at some of the folks here who seem to have jumped on the Obama is a terrorist bandwagon. The fear just *pours* off of them, too. It's like they are dogs who have been taught by some mad Republican Pavlov to cringe in fear the moment they hear the words terrorism or terrorist. They lose all ability to think, and just automatically say to the person who has said the code word, Ok, I'm afraid...I'm salivating...do whatever you want, as long as it makes me less afraid. I get the feeling that some of these people -- like Willytex and Raunchydog -- would allow Homeland Sec- urity to cart their MOTHERS away to Guantanamo if someone in power or in the media called them a terrorist. They wouldn't hesitate for a moment; in fact, they'd probably help the Homeland Security guys dope her to keep her quiet as they dragged her to the car. Just go quietly, Mom...it'll be better for all of us. It's the same kind of Pavlovian, knee-jerk reaction we see in Shemp when anyone mentions the words social- ism or communism. He loses the ability think rationally, and can only rant. (Shemp is an old-school dog, still stuck on the code word commie, and who hasn't caught up to the newer, more modern code word, terrorist.) As far as I can tell, this reaction CAN be described using the term Pavlovian response. It's not the kind of response that anyone is born with; it has to be trained into you. And it has been. There is a certain percentage of the U.S. population that would *gladly* ship their mothers to Guantanamo if someone on TV called Mom a terrorist. So when they hear someone on TV claim that Obama is a terrorist, are they going to hesitate for a moment, or do any fact-checking? Of course they aren't. They're going to vote with their fear, just as the people saying these things expect them to. And there is not much that any of us can do about this, because the cringing dogs have been so thoroughly trained to do this that now they can't NOT do it. The only thing we can hope for is that there aren't enough of these trained dogs to swing an election. The buzz is that since it is inadvisable for BushCo to start a war in Iran at the moment due to possible annihilation of Israel as a result they are going to start one with Pakistan since their puppet is out of the way. Around here people who are voting for McCain are doing so because they are afraid they'll pay higher taxes. That's what Shemp's afraid of. Thing is I bet he doesn't make anything close to $200K a year (not even $100K). He wouldn't get hit at all and might even get a break. So stupid. Right now he is seeing his tax dollars get wasted in Iraq. Stupid Indian professionals in the US are for McCain because they are afraid of higher taxes with Obama. And yes the letters in India West do mention incomes over $250K. Again that increase would barely be noticeable by them. This morning the crusty kaffeeklatch often at Starbuck's who are often discussing right leaning politics (ex-cops I
[FairfieldLife] Re: Overposting Ban
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 8, 2008, at 1:09 PM, Rick Archer wrote: From now on, when someone gets banned for overposting, the ban will cover not just one calendar week from the day they overposted, but the remainder of that week, plus the entire following week, Friday to Friday. So for instance, Shemp, who overposted yesterday, will be out until a week from Friday i.e., midnight on the 17th. Yavol, Herr Rick! Sal (Channeling shemp here...) Does this count as another post of Shemp? Will you also be putting pictures of Palin on your bathroom ceiling?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Smacks McCain Around Again
The audience and the American people should feel robbed that the one opportunity they had to ask questions of the presidential candidates was taken from them by Tom Brokaw. Read more: 'McCain vs. Obama: The Snoozer in Nashville' By Byron York NRO, October 8, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/3mhj9v Obama 47.7% McCain 45.3% http://zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1575
Re: [FairfieldLife] Overposting Ban
Rick Archer wrote: From now on, when someone gets banned for overposting, the ban will cover not just one calendar week from the day they overposted, but the remainder of that week, plus the entire following week, Friday to Friday. So for instance, Shemp, who overposted yesterday, will be out until a week from Friday - i.e., midnight on the 17th. As I mentioned a while ago I though that you should have done that all along. Someone may mess up on the count towards the end so they will be penalized less than those who overpost earlier in the week (often intentionally). This also makes it easier for you as you have to restore posting rights only once a week rather than multiple times. It is possible though rare to receive duplicate posts via email so I may be looking into adding the message ID parsing to the Post Count script so it can eliminate duplicates. I even received a duplicate of one of mine this week.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Overposting Ban
Tom wrote: Does this count as another post of Shemp? From what I've read, you get banned from meditating in the Dome, forever, if you post here a single time. Typical TMO tactics. Why should a TM forum be any different? After all, most of the informers here are the TMO.
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's official...there is 1 person as crazy as Judy and Raunchydog...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 8, 2008, at 1:51 PM, Tom wrote: Damn, I missed the 2 best moments, the handshake refusal as well as the that one moment...had the debate on but also had to deal with my kids. Hello, Youtube. Sal And you say *I* make excuses? ;-) Get on the stick girl. just kidding Are your kids old enough to appreciate history being made before their eyes? I was 5 years old when JFK was murdered. I remember it clearly but in sepia colored images. Sepia? I thought you were born in the 20th century, Tom, not the 19th. Jeez, you really can be a snarky yenta when you avoid answering a question. Metaphorically sepia Sal, but it does seem at times to be from another epoch. The emotions of the adults are still vivid. I was 10 when RJK MLK fell and 11 when Apollo 11 landed. TV generation huh? To this day I carry the contrasting shock and wonder of those memories. I think the emotions expressed by the adults around me as the events occurred are in large part responsible for the lasting nature of the memories. Watching McCain's actions did not make me ashamed to be white. I was, however, surprised at how inept he is in his attempt to attain his goal. Potomac fever can reveal some strange things. The handshake thing was clearly a misunderstanding. And I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and say that That one was a poorly-worded choice and not reflective of some inherent prejudice on McCain's part. Actually, now I kind of feel sorry for the guy, he's so clearly out of his depth. Sal I agree completely. They shared a handshake before the debate and off camera after. The That one comment reveals ineptness not prejudice. He is feeling very frustrated that his powers of communication and persuasion are seen as inferior to his opponent. A frustrated McCain makes mistakes and is not a pretty sight. A couple of times last evening, when Obama was facing McCain and addressing him directly with his back to the audience, I saw the potential for the famous McCain temper to surface. It most often appears when he feels he is not being accorded the respect he deserves.
[FairfieldLife] Light-emitting Jellyfish protein
Dr. Osamu Shimomura and others received a Nobel Prize for discovering and purifying aequorin in 1962. Available as a supplement, but expensive.: Aequorin From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search Aequorin ribbon diagram from PDB databaseAequorin is a photoprotein isolated from luminescent jellyfish (like various Aequorea species e.g. Aequorea victoria) and a variety of other marine organisms. It was originally isolated from the jellyfish by Osamu Shimomura. Aequorin is composed of two distinct units, the apoprotein apoaequorin, with an approximate molecular weight of 22 kDa, and the prosthetic group coelenterazine (molecular weight 472), a molecule belonging to the luciferin family. In the presence of molecular oxygen the two components of aequorin reconstitute spontaneously, forming the functional protein. Researchers have located a number of EF-hand type regions in the structure of Aequorin that function as binding sites for Ca2+ ions: when Ca2+ occupies such sites, the protein undergoes a conformational change and converts through oxidation its prosthetic group, coelenterazine, into excited coelenteramide and CO2. As the excited coelenteramide relaxes to the ground state, blue light (wavelength = 469 nm) is emitted. Since the emitted light can be easily detected with a luminometer, aequorin has become a useful tool in molecular biology for the measurement of intracellular Ca2+ levels. Cultured cells expressing the aequorin gene can effectively synthesize aequorin: however recombinant expression only yields the apoprotein, therefore it is necessary to add coelenterazine into the culture medium of the cells to obtain a functional protein and thus use its blue light emission to measure Ca2+ concentration. Coelenterazine is a hydrophobic molecule, and therefore is easily taken up across plant and fungal cell walls, as well as the plasma membrane of higher eukaryotes, making aequorin suitable as a Ca2+ reporter (calcium in biology) in plants, fungi and mammalian cells. Aequorin has a number of advantages over other Ca2+ indicators: it has a low leakage rate from cells, lacks phenomena of intracellular compartmentalization or sequestration and it does not disrupt cell functions or embryo development[citation needed]. Moreover the light emitted by the oxidation of coelenterazine does not depend on any optical excitation, so problems with auto-fluorescence are eliminated. [edit] References Swiss-Prot Aequorin entry A. Mithöfer and C. Mazars, Aequorin-based measurements of intracellular Ca2+ signatures in plant cells [1] O. Shimomura (1995). A short story of aequorin. Biol Bull. 189(1):1- 5. PMID 7654844 Retrieved from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aequorin;
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Overposting Ban
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard J. Williams Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 3:03 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Overposting Ban Tom wrote: Does this count as another post of Shemp? From what I've read, you get banned from meditating in the Dome, forever, if you post here a single time. Gee, does that mean I'll never get back in?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Smacks McCain Around Again
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 2:18 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Smacks McCain Around Again The process is fascinating to me. Reading the signs of the times. In my small neighborhood an occasional Obama yard sign sprouts and is gone gone in 24 hours. It is almost metaphorical that they disappear during the darkness of night. What part of the country do you live in? Scottsdale, Arizona. Fifth congressional district. Heavily Republican but represented by a Democrat seeking his second term. He was elected because the GOP candidate he defeated was a corrupt moron tainted by the Abramoff scandal. The loser is a bitter dude who now rants and raves on rightwing talk radio. He has the spot following Sean Hannity. He makes Hannity sound like an intellectual.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Idle speculation as to why the Repugs are trying to link Obama with terroism
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: The thing is, there really AREN'T enough of these I'm-a-good-Pavlov's-dog-so-just-say-the-word-terrorist- and-I'll-do-anything-you-want fear-driven voters to swing the election against Obama if things stay as they are today. But if there were to be a real terrorist event between now and the election, staged by BushCo and McCain and the neocon madmen behind them, taking place on American soil, how many otherwise sane people would suddenly remember the link that the Repugs have tried to establish between Obama and terrorism *then*, eh? Would the Repugs do such a thing? Of course they would, if they thought they could get away with it. The only question is whether they think they could get away with it. IMO, all it would take is one small bioweapon set off in a shopping mall, and blamed on an Arab with dark skin who had been set up to take the fall, and Obama would be toast. Of course this is pure science-fiction speculation on my part, and I hope that nothing like this ever happens. The thing is, in today's America, it could. The buzz is that since it is inadvisable for BushCo to start a war in Iran at the moment due to possible annihilation of Israel as a result they are going to start one with Pakistan since their puppet is out of the way. Anything is possible, but I don't see them being able to start another expensive war right now, given the economy. They don't have the money, and they don't have the cannon fodder to send there. My scifi exploration above would be cheap, and would give them the election with no continuing overhead, just some setup time and a few dead bodies. Heck, they've *already* killed more Americans in a trumped-up war than they'd kill in such a faux terrorist attack. They'd just chalk it up to collateral damage. Not that I think this is going to happen; as I said, I'm just pointing out the ease with which it *could* happen, given the mindset of the US population right now. They went essentially insane after 9/11, and that insanity has merely been suppressed, not eliminated. This is what scifi writers and readers DO for fun, examine possible scenarios. I posted it to 1) see if others can see the ease with which truly nefarious people could do something like this, and 2) to have it on record in case someone does. As Ray Bradbury once said, My job as a science fiction writer is not to predict the futures I see but to prevent them. :-) Around here people who are voting for McCain are doing so because they are afraid they'll pay higher taxes. That's what Shemp's afraid of. Yup. Total self interest. Thing is I bet he doesn't make anything close to $200K a year (not even $100K). I would agree. If he's like most people in his line of work, he's just a glorified phone salesman, calling people and trying to sell them the things the daily sheet he gets from his company tells him to sell. I had two different girlfriends who were stockbrokers and a friend who was an estate planner like Shemp, and that's what they did. The funny thing is that there is really no job security for them, either, because if they're honest they'll remember that it only took six months to train them and certify them. It will take that long to train and certify their replacements, and if they don't keep their sales high (they work on commission), they *will* be replaced. He wouldn't get hit at all and might even get a break. So stupid. Right now he is seeing his tax dollars get wasted in Iraq. And *stolen* in Iraq. When it all shakes out and an accounting is made (if one ever is), I would not be surprised to find that they can account for less than half the money sent to Iraq for the war. The rest will have been stolen. Just like the TMO, but on a bigger scale. This morning the crusty kaffeeklatch often at Starbuck's who are often discussing right leaning politics (ex-cops I think and obviously not Teamsters who have a high presence around here) didn't seem to have a clue that their congressman was sitting a table away. That's how clueless some of these people are. My Congressman and Senator used to come and sit and rap in the coffee shop I used to hang out at in Santa Fe, too. SF was, after all, the state capital, and Downtown Subscription clearly served the best coffee in town, so it was a no-brainer. Fairly nice guys, when you get them away from podiums. I finally found the schedule for the Obama voter registration tables. Damn, I missed one I could have stopped by yesterday morning. I'm not sure I want to bother with the BART station as there is little parking around there at rush hour (where they set up shop). I want to buy some buttons and stuff from them. Ordering online takes too long to get shipped here. I want to be in the face of the (few) McCain people around here. ;-) I have
[FairfieldLife] Re: Overposting Ban
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom wrote: Does this count as another post of Shemp? From what I've read, you get banned from meditating in the Dome, forever, if you post here a single time. . Incorrect. They even let warmongers like you back in. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Sarah Palin: Palling Around With Secessionists
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eniG9l_7its
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Supervisors
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Ru's only have themselves to blame for this sort of nonsense. They have treated townies like shit whenever there was a conflict and this is what happens. They should have kept that beautiful chapel. Tearing it down was such a FU to Fairfield and its Christians. Plus it was the most beautiful building on campus and a great place to hear music. It was a symbol for respecting Western religions that had real PR value. Tearing it down signaled the end of pretending to be more than another Hindu cult. My favorite line: stop livestock production. In Iowa? Yeah, that's gunna fly about as far as yogic flying. --- On Wed, 10/8/08, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Jefferson County Supervisors To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 1:53 PM Email going around: October 6, 2008 Dear Friends, I am writing to you not as a Republican or a Democrat but as a very concerned citizen of Jefferson County. Recently a group of men were drinking coffee at Hy-Vee and discussing the county supervisor race. A woman from the meditating community heard them and said to them, We are going to take over this county and there is nothing you can do about it. That statement is true if we don't defeat the two meditators running for county supervisors. William Richards and Earl Shepard are the candidates for Jefferson County Supervisor on the Democrat ticket. These men are associated with MUM and the meditating movement. They will not represent you and your tax dollars with regard to county business. During the past year the meditating community has attempted to give tax breaks to organic farmers, stop livestock production and use eminent domain to take farm land.They have demolished historical landmarks on the Parsons College campus because of the building design. If they controlled the county dollars would they demolish our hundred year old courthouse? The meditating community is mounting a well organized effort to put their candidates in power. It is very important for us to take action and vote. Also .. spread the word to your neighbors, friends and family. Be sure to vote for Stephen Burgmeier and Lee Dimmitt, long time Jefferson County residents. Also, spread the word to your neighbors, friends and family. Thank you Dave Dickey
[FairfieldLife] U.S. set to go into deep recession, IMF says
So when does a deep recession become a depression? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27083134/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin: Palling Around With Secessionists
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eniG9l_7its Wow, American haters to boot! The complete hypocrisy of her attacks on Obama is now complete. A frozen Johnny Reb who wants to succeed from the US! Nice find.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin: Palling Around With Secessionists
On Oct 8, 2008, at 4:48 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eniG9l_7its Wow, American haters to boot! The complete hypocrisy of her attacks on Obama is now complete. A frozen Johnny Reb who wants to succeed from the US! Nice find. Why the Obama camp isn't making more of this is a mystery. Way to go, John... Sal
[FairfieldLife] ABC won't air our ad
ABC refused to air the Alliance for Climate Protection's Repower America ad about how oil and coal companies have blocked the country's switch to truly clean energy. Tell ABC to reconsider their decision and air the Repower America ad. http://www.wecansolveit.org/ABC http://www.wecansolveit.org/page/ic/4vq84ajs1vf7r7/SiR0dg%3D%3D We're working to get 100,000 public comments to ABC before 20/20's next airing. Thank you.
[FairfieldLife] Vernon Katz on growing up in 30s Germany
From the time of the Nuremberg Laws in 1935 the tone darkens. . . . Aged ten, I switch over to high school. On the way to school I am pelted with stones almost every day. Teachers in full Nazi uniform terrify me and the boys persecute me without mercy. I become the family scribe, writing letters in my newly learnt English to people who might help us escape to the USA. Vernon recalls how sad his mother was when lifelong neighbors began crossing the street to avoid his family and how his friends slowly stopped coming over to play, as his teachers began teaching race theory and leading students in the Heil Hitler salute. More and more people we knew suddenly appeared in uniform. A pork butcher on the make, a carpenter in search of trade, a cigar shop owner who could do with more customers . . . strutting about in polished brown jackboots, trying to ape their absurd Führer. . . . The whole thing seems ludicrous in retrospect, but it was not funny then. I soon learned to fear those uniforms. Then on November 9, 1938, comes the Kristallnacht. The windows of our house are shattered at five in the morning, our little synagogue is burnt, and father is carted off to the Buchenwald concentration camp. The head of the Nazi factory trade union seizes his chance and accuses Mother of saying that Goering and the whole cabinet should be shot. Our doctor sends Mother to a mental institution to protect her from the Gestapo, and I am left without my parents in the large house. Father returns from Buchenwald with stories of great cruelty. Mother returns from the asylum and is finally acquitted by the Gestapo. . . . In March 1939 I am sent to England with a Kindertransport. . . . In a dramatic climax, Mother is released on 10 August 1939 and my parents arrive in England on 29 August, three days before Hitler invades Poland. http://www.iowasource.com/books/2008_09_vernon.html http://www.iowasource.com/books/2008_09_vernon.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Overposting Ban
From what I've read, you get banned from meditating in the Dome, forever, if you post here a single time. Off wrote: Incorrect. They even let warmongers like you back in. Maybe so, but from what I've heard, you are banned from even setting for on the MUM campus. What's up with that?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Supervisors
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: The Ru's only have themselves to blame for this sort of nonsense. They have treated townies like shit whenever there was a conflict and this is what happens. They should have kept that beautiful chapel. Tearing it down was such a FU to Fairfield and its Christians. Plus it was the most beautiful building on campus and a great place to hear music. It was a symbol for respecting Western religions that had real PR value. Tearing it down signaled the end of pretending to be more than another Hindu cult. Had there been a joint town/gown campaign to fund an endowment for perpetual maintenance of the Barhydt Chapel, instead of the abrupt MUM announcement of the chapel's pending fate at the hands of a wrecking crew, relations would have been improved. Parsons College alums still gather in Fairfield for reunions. Parsons alums might have even made the bulk of donations for the chapel's preservation. MUM could have gained a large group of off-campus and nation-wide allies by retaining the chapel. By tearing down the chapel, MUM stuck a stick in the eyes of old-line Fairfielders and Parsons alums, instead. My favorite line: stop livestock production. In Iowa? Yeah, that's gunna fly about as far as yogic flying. --- On Wed, 10/8/08, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: Rick Archer rick@ Subject: [FairfieldLife] Jefferson County Supervisors To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 1:53 PM Email going around: October 6, 2008 Dear Friends, I am writing to you not as a Republican or a Democrat but as a very concerned citizen of Jefferson County. Recently a group of men were drinking coffee at Hy-Vee and discussing the county supervisor race. A woman from the meditating community heard them and said to them, We are going to take over this county and there is nothing you can do about it. That statement is true if we don't defeat the two meditators running for county supervisors. William Richards and Earl Shepard are the candidates for Jefferson County Supervisor on the Democrat ticket. These men are associated with MUM and the meditating movement. They will not represent you and your tax dollars with regard to county business. During the past year the meditating community has attempted to give tax breaks to organic farmers, stop livestock production and use eminent domain to take farm land.They have demolished historical landmarks on the Parsons College campus because of the building design. If they controlled the county dollars would they demolish our hundred year old courthouse? The meditating community is mounting a well organized effort to put their candidates in power. It is very important for us to take action and vote. Also .. spread the word to your neighbors, friends and family. Be sure to vote for Stephen Burgmeier and Lee Dimmitt, long time Jefferson County residents. Also, spread the word to your neighbors, friends and family. Thank you Dave Dickey
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Supervisors
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mainstream20016 Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 5:18 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Supervisors Had there been a joint town/gown campaign to fund an endowment for perpetual maintenance of the Barhydt Chapel, instead of the abrupt MUM announcement of the chapel's pending fate at the hands of a wrecking crew, relations would have been improved. MUM claimed expensive upkeep of the chapel as the reason for razing it, but it was really all about the fact that it wasn't MSV, and MMY was strongly encouraging the demolition of all such buildings.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Supervisors
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mainstream20016 Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 5:18 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Supervisors Had there been a joint town/gown campaign to fund an endowment for perpetual maintenance of the Barhydt Chapel, instead of the abrupt MUM announcement of the chapel's pending fate at the hands of a wrecking crew, relations would have been improved. MUM claimed expensive upkeep of the chapel as the reason for razing it, but it was really all about the fact that it wasn't MSV, and MMY was strongly encouraging the demolition of all such buildings. The Baryhdt Chapel's main entrance faced EAST, did it not ?
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Supervisors
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mainstream20016 Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 5:34 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Supervisors MUM claimed expensive upkeep of the chapel as the reason for razing it, but it was really all about the fact that it wasn't MSV, and MMY was strongly encouraging the demolition of all such buildings. The Baryhdt Chapel's main entrance faced EAST, did it not ? A little bit S, probably ESE.
[FairfieldLife] More on Arenander tour India
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Supervisors
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mainstream20016 Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 5:18 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Supervisors Had there been a joint town/gown campaign to fund an endowment for perpetual maintenance of the Barhydt Chapel, instead of the abrupt MUM announcement of the chapel's pending fate at the hands of a wrecking crew, relations would have been improved. MUM claimed expensive upkeep of the chapel as the reason for razing it, but it was really all about the fact that it wasn't MSV, and MMY was strongly encouraging the demolition of all such buildings. MSV was definitely a huge reason for tearing it down, however, the structural issues were very real. They spent a hundred-some-odd thousand dollars fixing the roof and repairing water damage, but it started leaking again because the building was shifting on its foundation. It was going to take a half-million dollars to fix the foundation. That's a lot of money to spend on a university building that served little purpose for the university. Having had to do group meditation in the chapel while an MIU student, I have less than fond memories of it. To me, it was a cold, drafty, uncomfortable, mildew-infested shithole, and I'm not the least bit bothered that it was torn down.
[FairfieldLife] Good news for McCain: Iowa to allow idiots to vote
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20081008/NEWS/81008047/1001 http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20081008/NEWS/81008047/1001
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Supervisors
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mainstream20016 Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 5:18 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Supervisors Had there been a joint town/gown campaign to fund an endowment for perpetual maintenance of the Barhydt Chapel, instead of the abrupt MUM announcement of the chapel's pending fate at the hands of a wrecking crew, relations would have been improved. MUM claimed expensive upkeep of the chapel as the reason for razing it, but it was really all about the fact that it wasn't MSV, and MMY was strongly encouraging the demolition of all such buildings. MSV was definitely a huge reason for tearing it down, however, the structural issues were very real. They spent a hundred-some-odd thousand dollars fixing the roof and repairing water damage, but it started leaking again because the building was shifting on its foundation. It was going to take a half-million dollars to fix the foundation. That's a lot of money to spend on a university building that served little purpose for the university. Having had to do group meditation in the chapel while an MIU student, I have less than fond memories of it. To me, it was a cold, drafty, uncomfortable, mildew-infested shithole, and I'm not the least bit bothered that it was torn down. *** Yeah, it was a piece of crap, but a piece of crap that was treasured by some. It probably would have been smarter politically to ask these people who wanted to save Barhydt to put their money where their mouth is, and when that didn't happen, say that the school had no choice but to tear it down. Actually, I think either MUM or somebody in town did start a Barhydt preservation fund, but it went nowhere, naturally. The chapel did not have enough of a footprint on a 160 acre campus to be a problem -- MUM could have left the building closed up and unused if the foundation problems had been addressed, which would, of course, cost a shitload of money that nobody was willing to put up.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin: Palling Around With Secessionists
Curtis wrote: A frozen Johnny Reb who wants to succeed from the US! This is nothing more than a political smear of Gov. Palin. These allegations are false - Gov. Palin has never been a member of AIP. And, it's not accurate to call the AIP 'seccessionsit' - it's just a 'states rights' party. Probably every AIP member has different opinions on what Alaska should be. The AIP is the third largest political party in Alaska - a previous Alaska governor was a member of the AIP. According to Gail Fenumiai, the director of the Alaska Division of Elections, Gov. Sarah Palin has been a registered Republican since 1982. So you have any evidence that Gov. Palin was once a member of AIP?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin: Palling Around With Secessionists
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curtis wrote: A frozen Johnny Reb who wants to succeed from the US! This is nothing more than a political smear of Gov. Palin. These allegations are false - Gov. Palin has never been a member of AIP. Exactly. And Obama was never a member of the Weather Underground. Now do you understand how offensive all that Ayer crap Palin was slinging is? I don't need any evidence of her being a member, I just need to show her palling around with them. Guilt by association. So do you get the point now Richard? And, it's not accurate to call the AIP 'seccessionsit' - it's just a 'states rights' party. Probably every AIP member has different opinions on what Alaska should be. The AIP is the third largest political party in Alaska - a previous Alaska governor was a member of the AIP. According to Gail Fenumiai, the director of the Alaska Division of Elections, Gov. Sarah Palin has been a registered Republican since 1982. So you have any evidence that Gov. Palin was once a member of AIP?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Overposting Ban
From what I've read, you get banned from meditating in the Dome, forever, if you post here a single time. Rick Archer wrote: Gee, does that mean I'll never get back in? According to my sources, you informants will never be allowed ever again to set foot inside a Marshy Golden Dome of Pure Knowledge. You and the other apostates didn't keep the teaching pure - you broke your oath to Guru Dev. You can't be trusted to keep your word. You didn't read the 'Orange Book' and you can't even remember the words to the puja. You can't recognize your own mantra from Sanskrit flash cards. What's even worse, you used DHMO obtained a well located next to a pig farm. From what I've read, some of you rascals even lit the camphor with a BIC lighter. All you know is a nonsense syllable or two. You sucked as TM teachers - that's why the TMO is a failure - you failed to stay on the program. Now you've been kicked out; banned. That's why you are posting messages here, instead of giving lectures at the TM Center. After all these years, you still don't have a Ph.D. from MUM. Inside the Golden Dome: http://www.rwilliams.us/inside/ Read more: From: Lot 49 Date: Sun, Oct 5 2003 1:31 pm Groups: alt.meditation.transcendental Subject: Inside the Maharishi Golden Dome http://tinyurl.com/kgn3e
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin: Palling Around With Secessionists
A frozen Johnny Reb who wants to succeed from the US! This is nothing more than a political smear of Gov. Palin. These allegations are false - Gov. Palin has never been a member of AIP. Curtis wrote: Exactly. And Obama was never a member of the Weather Underground. Now do you understand how offensive all that Ayer crap Palin was slinging is? I don't need any evidence of her being a member, I just need to show her palling around with them. Guilt by association. So do you get the point now Richard? So, we are agreed that Obama was in Bernadine's living room and that Gov. Palin was never a member of AIP. And we are agreed that Obama was never a member of the Weather Underground, but he is friends with the founder. And, it's not accurate to call the AIP 'seccessionsit' - it's just a 'states rights' party. Probably every AIP member has different opinions on what Alaska should be. The AIP is the third largest political party in Alaska - a previous Alaska governor was a member of the AIP. According to Gail Fenumiai, the director of the Alaska Division of Elections, Gov. Sarah Palin has been a registered Republican since 1982. So you have any evidence that Gov. Palin was once a member of AIP?
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin: Palling Around With Secessionists
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curtis wrote: A frozen Johnny Reb who wants to succeed from the US! This is nothing more than a political smear of Gov. Palin. These allegations are false - Gov. Palin has never been a member of AIP. And, it's not accurate to call the AIP 'seccessionsit' - it's just a 'states rights' party. Probably every AIP member has different opinions on what Alaska should be. The AIP is the third largest political party in Alaska - a previous Alaska governor was a member of the AIP. According to Gail Fenumiai, the director of the Alaska Division of Elections, Gov. Sarah Palin has been a registered Republican since 1982. So you have any evidence that Gov. Palin was once a member of AIP? Not her, but her husband, who quit the party when Sarah Palin started running for governor. Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin: Palling Around With Secessionists
snip So do you get the point now Richard? So, we are agreed that Obama was in Bernadine's living room and that Gov. Palin was never a member of AIP. And we are agreed that Obama was never a member of the Weather Underground, but he is friends with the founder. friends ? Yeah Karl, nice try. I thought you would miss the point because your partisanship makes you unable to grasp the concept of fairness. Both Palin and Obama worked with all sorts of people to further their careers and missions. Because they worked with these people doesn't mean they share all their values. They might even stand in someone's living room and not share the values of the person who owns or rents the house. So bringing up these associations as political scare tactic spin is idiotic, partisan bullshit. So now switch to pretending to care that Obama downplayed his relationship with Ayer, not the relationship itself, right Richard. Isn't that your move. And, it's not accurate to call the AIP 'seccessionsit' - it's just a 'states rights' party. Probably every AIP member has different opinions on what Alaska should be. The AIP is the third largest political party in Alaska - a previous Alaska governor was a member of the AIP. According to Gail Fenumiai, the director of the Alaska Division of Elections, Gov. Sarah Palin has been a registered Republican since 1982. So you have any evidence that Gov. Palin was once a member of AIP?
[FairfieldLife] Govt of India replies to heavy metals in ayurveda scare
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Overposting Ban
According to my sources, you informants will never be allowed ever again to set foot inside a Marshy Golden Dome of Pure Knowledge. I am on here anonymously. You and the other apostates didn't keep the teaching pure - you broke your oath to Guru Dev. You can't be trusted to keep your word. I never attended TM teacher training. You didn't read the 'Orange Book' and you can't even remember the words to the puja. You can't recognize your own mantra from Sanskrit flash cards. The what book? Never learned the puja. You sucked as TM teachers - that's why the TMO is a failure - you failed to stay on the program. I hope you don't sincerely believe that is the reason why the TMO is a total failure and a sad joke in spiritual circles. That's why you are posting messages here, instead of giving lectures at the TM Center. The local center was closed in July 1998. All of the millions of dollars money from the sale of the two buildings was, of course, sent to who knows where. Even the TBs don't give lectures anymore. After all these years, you still don't have a Ph.D. from MUM. Sounds like a lot of work for something with a limited career path, namely teaching at MUM for the $250 dollars a month or whatever it is teachers get. Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma --- On Wed, 10/8/08, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Overposting Ban To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 7:56 PM From what I've read, you get banned from meditating in the Dome, forever, if you post here a single time. Rick Archer wrote: Gee, does that mean I'll never get back in? According to my sources, you informants will never be allowed ever again to set foot inside a Marshy Golden Dome of Pure Knowledge. You and the other apostates didn't keep the teaching pure - you broke your oath to Guru Dev. You can't be trusted to keep your word. You didn't read the 'Orange Book' and you can't even remember the words to the puja. You can't recognize your own mantra from Sanskrit flash cards. What's even worse, you used DHMO obtained a well located next to a pig farm. From what I've read, some of you rascals even lit the camphor with a BIC lighter. All you know is a nonsense syllable or two. You sucked as TM teachers - that's why the TMO is a failure - you failed to stay on the program. Now you've been kicked out; banned. That's why you are posting messages here, instead of giving lectures at the TM Center. After all these years, you still don't have a Ph.D. from MUM. Inside the Golden Dome: http://www.rwilliams.us/inside/ Read more: From: Lot 49 Date: Sun, Oct 5 2003 1:31 pm Groups: alt.meditation.transcendental Subject: Inside the Maharishi Golden Dome http://tinyurl.com/kgn3e To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Supervisors
Actually I think it credits the university that they didn't act politically. --- On Wed, 10/8/08, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Supervisors To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 6:56 PM --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of mainstream20016 Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 5:18 PM To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Supervisors Had there been a joint town/gown campaign to fund an endowment for perpetual maintenance of the Barhydt Chapel, instead of the abrupt MUM announcement of the chapel's pending fate at the hands of a wrecking crew, relations would have been improved. MUM claimed expensive upkeep of the chapel as the reason for razing it, but it was really all about the fact that it wasn't MSV, and MMY was strongly encouraging the demolition of all such buildings. MSV was definitely a huge reason for tearing it down, however, the structural issues were very real. They spent a hundred-some- odd thousand dollars fixing the roof and repairing water damage, but it started leaking again because the building was shifting on its foundation. It was going to take a half-million dollars to fix the foundation. That's a lot of money to spend on a university building that served little purpose for the university. Having had to do group meditation in the chapel while an MIU student, I have less than fond memories of it. To me, it was a cold, drafty, uncomfortable, mildew-infested shithole, and I'm not the least bit bothered that it was torn down. *** Yeah, it was a piece of crap, but a piece of crap that was treasured by some. It probably would have been smarter politically to ask these people who wanted to save Barhydt to put their money where their mouth is, and when that didn't happen, say that the school had no choice but to tear it down. Actually, I think either MUM or somebody in town did start a Barhydt preservation fund, but it went nowhere, naturally. The chapel did not have enough of a footprint on a 160 acre campus to be a problem -- MUM could have left the building closed up and unused if the foundation problems had been addressed, which would, of course, cost a shitload of money that nobody was willing to put up.
