[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread card
FWIW, it seems to me that "my" Sanskrit versions of the suutras might be perhaps a bit more hmmm... effective than those in my own language. Haven't been able to figger out all the TMSP suutras in Sanskrit, though, e.g. XII.) (My Sanskrit YF suutra is a "stripped-down" version of the original suu

[FairfieldLife] OT Low cost Windoze Phoney...

2013-05-30 Thread card
http://www.zdnet.com/low-cost-nokia-lumia-windows-phones-offer-more-than-ios-and-android-715922/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > How about you, Ann?  Will you take a real stand?  It's pretty easy and will > only cost you a little time and effort.  You can write Bevan an email > telling him how you feel about what he did.  You can write as a former > studen

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > How about you, Ann?  Will you take a real stand? Oh dear, dear Share. Will I take a real stand? Yes, Share I would and I have and will continue to do so when I feel it is appropriate or if I get so pissed off I can't help myself. Be

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread Share Long
How about you, Ann?  Will you take a real stand?  It's pretty easy and will only cost you a little time and effort.  You can write Bevan an email telling him how you feel about what he did.  You can write as a former student, as someone who has come to admire LB, as someone who thanks God when o

[FairfieldLife] LB's "Survival in Paradise" #1 and #2 available

2013-05-30 Thread authfriend
For anyone who's interested, issues #1 and #2 (March 4 and 25, 1993) of LB Shriver's newspaper "Survival in Paradise" have been posted on his Fairfield blog: http://fairfieldiowa.wordpress.com/survival-in-paradise/ Issue #4 (August 26, 1993) is available in the Files section here, but it's a m

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BrahmÂtman

2013-05-30 Thread Ravi Chivukula
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: > > > > On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 5:53 AM, emptybill wrote: > >> ** >> >> >> It was a typo and should have been *parArtha/paraartha *rather than * >> paratha* - an type of Indian bread. >> > > Oh empty baby this really helps me. I have always h

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread Bhairitu
On 05/30/2013 06:39 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: > Oh and for Bhairitu, what were the Age of Enlightenment courses? Those were the course held for TM teachers to learn the TM Sidhis.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread Susan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" wrote: > > > > > > Here's an idea, an experiment: Have a 4 week period > > > where anyone who ever got the siddhis can

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BrahmÂtman

2013-05-30 Thread Ravi Chivukula
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 5:53 AM, emptybill wrote: > ** > > > It was a typo and should have been *parArtha/paraartha *rather than * > paratha* - an type of Indian bread. > Oh empty baby this really helps me. I have always had trouble explaining the feeling I have every time I read your posts. "P

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread Michael Jackson
>From Nabby: "If you invite anyone who wants to come just because they learned the TMSP at some point you could get a lot of people in the Domes doing all sorts of woo-woo. Do you really want to be part of such an experiment?" This is exactly the kind of bullshit I-Believe-Whatever-Marshy-and-C

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Fri 31-May-13 00:15:12 UTC

2013-05-30 Thread seventhray27
Maybe we can pitch in and get him a proximity sensor, so when he gets to 49 or 50 it says, in its most law enforcement voice: "STEP AWAY FROM THE COMPUTER" --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: > > Yeah I have been nervous since yesterday - MJ please don't fucking post >

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Once and Future Meditating Movement

2013-05-30 Thread sparaig
I've read both the criticisms and the original studies. I wouldn't go so far as to insist that the methodological flaws are as bad as you say. I wouldn't go so far as to say that the ME is a proven technology either. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "drpsutphen" wrote: > > Buck, you d

[FairfieldLife] Re: My morning soundtrack

2013-05-30 Thread Richard J. Williams
turquoiseb: > I woke up this morning with this song in my head, > Yeah, I call these 'ear hummers'; I woke up this morning humming along to the song performed last night in San Antonio by Wayne Verheyden from Netherlands. It's funny: you couldn't wait to get over there; Wayne can't wait to get ove

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa

2013-05-30 Thread Ravi Chivukula
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: > Yeah she's going to "hug till she drops", she's deceived - even if she > feels guilty for her charade of a divine mother, all that fraud, deception > she has created it's too late for her to call it off now. How wouldn't love > all that atte

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just to put my "take" on the "domes" into perspective...

2013-05-30 Thread sparaig
Perhaps you had never heard of the Maharishi Effect, but wikipedia claims it has been around since, well, forever (I think the 1% version came out in 1970, not 1960): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maharishi_Effect#Description Description [edit] The Maharishi Effect is a hypothetical societal b

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa

2013-05-30 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Yeah she's going to "hug till she drops", she's deceived - even if she feels guilty for her charade of a divine mother, all that fraud, deception she has created it's too late for her to call it off now. How wouldn't love all that attention? On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:54 AM, Michael Jackson wrote

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY, Sri Vidya and Kashmere Tantrism, was Barry not enlightened

2013-05-30 Thread Ravi Chivukula
This is awesome Peter - can you please explain this to Jimmy baby and Grandpa Xeno. They have been driving me nuts with their CBE (concept based enlightenment) intellectual masturbation. Perhaps take them aside, speak to them in your language - tmish, tmspeak or whatever the fuck you guys call it -

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Once and Future Meditating Movement

2013-05-30 Thread drpsutphen
Buck, you do realize that according to standard scientific research methods that the ME does not exist? The studies have so many methodological flaws that they can not be taken seriously. I wish there was a ME but there isn't. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > Armed wi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Fri 31-May-13 00:15:12 UTC

2013-05-30 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Yeah I have been nervous since yesterday - MJ please don't fucking post out, I beg you. On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:10 PM, seventhray27 wrote: > ** > > > I am sure I am not alone. Can he do it? So far he's 0 for 3, but this > week may be the week where he finally conquers... > > http://www.y

[FairfieldLife] The Once and Future Meditating Movement

2013-05-30 Thread Buck
Armed with the scientific ME theory and our transcendentalist spiritual experience the meditating movement has brought a new style of thinking to life, a new style of living which essentially entails integrating scientific theory with spiritual practice, forging close links of the practicing me

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Fri 31-May-13 00:15:12 UTC

2013-05-30 Thread seventhray27
I am sure I am not alone. Can he do it? So far he's 0 for 3, but this week may be the week where he finally conquers... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAocdWMDGoE > > Fairfield Life Post Counter > 49 Michael Jackson

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: if they love you more

2013-05-30 Thread Dick Mays
Begin forwarded message: > From: Ideal Community Group > Subject: if they love you more > Date: May 30, 2013 7:47:38 PM CDT > To: "Dick," > > Dear Dick, > > As you've probably heard, due to oilfield realities the Settle Grant which > has supported around 450 people on IAA is being greatly r

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY, Sri Vidya and Kashmere Tantrism, was Barry not enlightened

2013-05-30 Thread Richard J. Williams
drpsutphen: > The value of all these different explanations > of "Reality" is not in creating a waking state > model of what really, really, really is real, > but are conceptual tools for the intellect to > facilitate a deeper understanding of direct > experience. Without the experience thes

[FairfieldLife] Re: Arctic melting? Get ready for global cooling

2013-05-30 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > > It is one of those interesting contradictions that > > > temperatures can rise and fall at the same time in > > > different parts of the world, even only a few > > > hundred miles from each other... > > > > > Many places in the U.S.A. recorded the lowest > > temperature for this time of

[FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 31-May-13 00:15:12 UTC

2013-05-30 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 05/25/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 06/01/13 00:00:00 594 messages as of (UTC) 05/30/13 23:59:42 50 doctordumbass 49 Michael Jackson 46 Buck 43 authfriend 42 Share Long 41 turquoiseb 36 Ann 31 Bhairitu 30 Richard J. Wil

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" wrote: > > > > > > Here's an idea, an experiment: Have a 4 week period where anyone who > > > ever got the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "drpsutphen" wrote: > > Why would Bevan change one iota from anything he's done in the past? He knows > he's right, you're wrong and that is that. He's not pragmatic at all. He'll > stick to the "purity of the teaching" as everything collapses around him

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread drpsutphen
Rick, what is a "PKYC"? Thanks! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of Share Long > Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 11:07 AM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [F

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread drpsutphen
Why would Bevan change one iota from anything he's done in the past? He knows he's right, you're wrong and that is that. He's not pragmatic at all. He'll stick to the "purity of the teaching" as everything collapses around him because that is the "right" thing to do. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread Susan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" wrote: > > > > Here's an idea, an experiment: Have a 4 week period where anyone who ever > > got the siddhis can come and fly in the Domes. The TMO could give out > > special co

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread Susan
Share, yes feel free to get the idea to Bevan! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > Without the mention of “Rick” because I wouldn’t go. > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of Share Long > Sent: Thursd

[FairfieldLife] Re: Want a personal relationship with Jesus?

2013-05-30 Thread feste37
That was hilarious. The Onion couldn't have done better. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Seraphita" wrote: > > Well, here's your chance. A man claiming to be Jesus is gaining > followers and causing concern among cult experts in Australia. > Former IT specialist Alan John Miller, or AJ a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: One for the Crop Circle folks

2013-05-30 Thread Bhairitu
On 05/30/2013 02:09 PM, Duveyoung wrote: > I watch so many of these films with "this ending." Hard to suggest that it > should be watched unless I know the person enough to firstly see if they've > acquired the taste for this OMG-what-if genre. > > But yeah, nicely done flick, and it handles the

[FairfieldLife] Are Raams a safe haven for my savings?

2013-05-30 Thread Seraphita
Is Maharishi's currency alternative, the Raam, issued in denominations specific to different countries? If not, as 1 Raam is worth 10 Euros in Holland but 1 Raam is worth 10 US Dollars in Fairfield, Iowa, one could transfer Raams between countries as the exchange rate of the dollar varied against t

[FairfieldLife] Re: One for the Crop Circle folks

2013-05-30 Thread Duveyoung
I watch so many of these films with "this ending." Hard to suggest that it should be watched unless I know the person enough to firstly see if they've acquired the taste for this OMG-what-if genre. But yeah, nicely done flick, and it handles the "why don't the white people leave the house wh

[FairfieldLife] Want a personal relationship with Jesus?

2013-05-30 Thread Seraphita
Well, here's your chance. A man claiming to be Jesus is gaining followers and causing concern among cult experts in Australia. Former IT specialist Alan John Miller, or AJ as he prefers to be known, runs a religious movement known as the Divine Truth. Mr Miller claims that not only is he Christ, b

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread feste37
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > They tried. Bevan called one of LB's employers and tried > > > to get him fired. The employer stood up to

[FairfieldLife] Just to put my "take" on the "domes" into perspective...

2013-05-30 Thread turquoiseb
...I think you have to bear in mind *when* I left the TM movement. The siddhis had been around for a while, and there were even a few conclaves of people bouncing around together in L.A. and a few other big cities, but the whole "Maharishi Effect" thang had never been been brought up. Never. It had

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread Bhairitu
Looking for suckers. Most people I knew in the old TM daze have moved on and would have absolutely no interest. Many of us split after the self-appointed gestapo returned from the A of E courses. They didn't bother me which was good because I was raised to smack bullies. ;-) On 05/29/2013 05:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" wrote: > > > > Here's an idea, an experiment: Have a 4 week period > > where anyone who ever got the siddhis can come and > > fly in the Domes. The TMO could give out special > > color

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > They tried. Bevan called one of LB's employers and tried > > to get him fired. The employer stood up to Bevan and told > > him he would not only not fire him, but would no longer

[FairfieldLife] One for the Crop Circle folks

2013-05-30 Thread Bhairitu
The movie "Dark Skies" is now available on video. I rented it on Bluray and watched it last night. It's about a family who find strange going ons in their house. This is NOT one of those "found footage" movies though the producers did make the first Paranormal Activity movie. They opted for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > People who live outside FF and get their news of what goes on > here from Buck would probably think that the Dome issue is the > biggest thing going on here. But that's not true. I don't know > anyone who went to that meeting Buck attended

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of Ann > Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 10:40 AM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-2

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > Ann, just fyi FF is definitely NOT "a very tight knit community of like minded seekers." For example, my neighbor to the south is an Amma devotee. We are on friendly terms and I have attended Amma gatherings. My neighbor to the eas

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread feste37
People who live outside FF and get their news of what goes on here from Buck would probably think that the Dome issue is the biggest thing going on here. But that's not true. I don't know anyone who went to that meeting Buck attended or even knew it was going on. What the TMO does is not a big d

[FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation Saves A Veteran From PTSD and Suicide

2013-05-30 Thread nablusoss1008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV05FQ6aBcA Veterans are often loath to acknowledge to themselves or others their inner wounds of war after they return home from combat. Healing those wounds of war requires an approach that directly impacts the neurophysiology underlying post traumatic stress.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another Voice in the Argument about Consciousness

2013-05-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > Judy, replying to your comment about Dennett and his selfness: > I think that what such bright people are missing is the > understanding that one can have from SCI that consciousness > is the Subject, the Knower as well as being the Obje

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread Share Long
Rick, I'm not only appreciative of what others do, I'm positively participative as well (-: Meaning, I've not only been to and enjoyed Amma gatherings outside of FF, I've been to and enjoyed both Mother Meera and Karunamayi gatherings in FF.  No sneaking around at all.  Nor was there any sneakin

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Share Long Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 11:07 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield Ann, just fyi FF is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Arctic melting? Get ready for global cooling

2013-05-30 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" wrote: > > > > sparaig: > > It is one of those interesting contradictions that > > temperatures can rise and fall at the same time in > > different parts of the world, even only a few > > hundred miles from each other... > > > Man

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread Share Long
Ann, just fyi FF is definitely NOT "a very tight knit community of like minded seekers."  For example, my neighbor to the south is an Amma devotee.  We are on friendly terms and I have attended Amma gatherings.  My neighbor to the east is a Hare Krishna.  We are on friendly terms and I have not

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" wrote: > > Here's an idea, an experiment: Have a 4 week period where anyone who ever > got the siddhis can come and fly in the Domes. The TMO could give out special > colored badges in advance. No background checks or eliminating a person > beca

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ann Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 10:40 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield You have hit the proverbial nail on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > organize yourselves beforehand and unite to create > > a cohesive voice... > > authfriend: > I was wondering if there were enough determined dissidents > to hold a quiet strike--i.e., no picket lines or signs or > hooh-hah, just stop going to the domes until the policies > were changed. > Or,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > ... > > I have to admit though, that Barry has a point. If there > > was a meeting how come only one lone voice brought up any > > concerns they have with dome policy? It is a si

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread Rick Archer
Without the mention of “Rick” because I wouldn’t go. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Share Long Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 7:07 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors A

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread Share Long
I did not say less.  I said less of a priority.  That's a huge difference in meaning.  Your misquoting me in this way is IMO, not such a great example of integrity.  Nor is your saying that I have not walked away when I have and have written about it here. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > turq, it's simply a matter of experience. I've done my > TMSP and I've not done it. I prefer to do the TMSP. > I've done my TMSP alone and I've done it in the Dome. > I prefer to do the TMSP in the Dome. IMO it does not > make me a cu

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another Voice in the Argument about Consciousness

2013-05-30 Thread Share Long
Judy, replying to your comment about Dennett and his selfness:  I think that what such bright people are missing is the understanding that one can have from SCI that consciousness is the Subject, the Knower as well as being the Object, the Known.  I've encountered this in other spiritual groups.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY, Sri Vidya and Kashmere Tantrism, was Barry not enlightened

2013-05-30 Thread Share Long
Richard thank you so much for this.  And DrPete, knowledge is not only for the purpose of deeper understanding of experience.  According to Maharishi, knowledge can actually help give rise to deeper experience.  And this is my own experience too. Richard, I also want to give credit to my ex in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bird with a 'tude

2013-05-30 Thread Richard J. Williams
Duveyoung: > The below bird is Advaita, the above bird, > the Absolute. > "Two birds sat on a tree; one ate the fruit and the other looked on..." Mundaka Upanishad III.1.1-3 > > I can identify. It's why I'm still on FFL. :-) > > > > > > [https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread Share Long
turq, it's simply a matter of experience.  I've done my TMSP and I've not done it.  I prefer to do the TMSP.  I've done my TMSP alone and I've done it in the Dome.  I prefer to do the TMSP in the Dome.  IMO it does not make me a cultist nor an elitist nor a sheep nor terrified, etc.  And to agai

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deluded Nestle CEO on your right to water

2013-05-30 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > Gate's father campaigned for an initiative to raise > > taxes on the rich in Washington state which didn't > > pass... > > Michael Jackson wrote: > You are living in a dreamworld if you think Gates is > responsible with his wealth given the fact that he is > bent of helping Monsanto and t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread drpsutphen
I've always taken it straight, no chaser from the TMO. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > Oh, pussy willow, you activist, you. I don't think your posting of your > negative views about the TMO and Maharishi, here, on FFL, have changed > anything. Have you ever e

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY, Sri Vidya and Kashmere Tantrism, was Barry not enlightened

2013-05-30 Thread drpsutphen
The value of all these different explanations of "Reality" is not in creating a waking state model of what really, really, really is real, but are conceptual tools for the intellect to facilitate a deeper understanding of direct experience. Without the experience these concepts are useless at be

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY, Sri Vidya and Kashmere Tantrism, was Barry not enlightened

2013-05-30 Thread Richard J. Williams
Share Long: > ...have you ever encountered this idea about maya: > that in one stage of development it is a covering > of reality; in a more developed stage it is only a > veil giving rise to desire; and in a very developed > stage, maya is actually a means to ultimate reality. > Asking the import

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > ... > I have to admit though, that Barry has a point. If there > was a meeting how come only one lone voice brought up any > concerns they have with dome policy? It is a simple but > essential point and I would wonder about the answer to > t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: (snip) > It all sounds like it accomplished nothing except reinforcing > to the powers that be that people are struck silent by their > desire to stay part of the Dome community. That is what they > are counting on. Fear breeds silence. Frankly, I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > Son, you were not here so don't just assume things but yes your advice below > is good and true about the fourth estate below. That is also how things get > done around here. Obviously they read this page and others about themselves >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Commencement speech about the value of Tantra

2013-05-30 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > Ann, fortunately in FF men are not into wearing toupees Hee, hee, but you know they can really make some real looking rugs these days, you never know who is possibly shiny as a cue ball under their flowing locks... > but many do spor

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > Oh, pussy willow, you activist, you. I don't think your posting of your > negative views about the TMO and Maharishi, here, on FFL, have changed > anything. Have you ever even written a letter, to any of the MUM > administrati

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > What d'you reckon this is all about? TMO generally don't give away > > > nothin'. Any thoughts Buck? > > > > > > > > > > Numbers. Group medita

[FairfieldLife] Re: Arctic melting? Get ready for global cooling

2013-05-30 Thread Richard J. Williams
sparaig: > It is one of those interesting contradictions that > temperatures can rise and fall at the same time in > different parts of the world, even only a few > hundred miles from each other... > Many places in the U.S.A. recorded the lowest temperature for this time of year. And, record

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another Voice in the Argument about Consciousness

2013-05-30 Thread emptybill
Most Advaita, as presented, is contaminated by the suppositions of yoga. This has been true since a 15th century Shankaracharya fused/confused the practices. The best intro to authentic advaita understanding/realization is here: http://www.shiningworld.com/top/images/stories/pub-pdfs/Articles/%2

[FairfieldLife] Re: A rap about Cognitive Dissonance

2013-05-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > > > > > turq, I like how you emphasize fun and playfulness which Whedon > > > didn't bring up til the ver

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another Voice in the Argument about Consciousness

2013-05-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sjn99YTh4U > > Oh, yes - one of the classics. One of my favorite songs of the period. I cracked up when I read MP's post about it. > Th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread Buck
Susan you would think so, this would be reasonable for the people who have already been taught the sidhis technique. But no. A stunning moment in the meeting was their announcement there would be re-fresher meetings about practicing the technique but in the same breath you'd need a Dome badge

[FairfieldLife] Re: BrahmÂtman

2013-05-30 Thread emptybill
It was a typo and should have been parArtha/paraartha rather than paratha - an type of Indian bread. Sva-artha/Swa-artha is that which exists for or is for "one's own". Para-artha is that which exists for or is for an "other". According to Patanjali, the purpose (artha) of prakriti is to give exp

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread Share Long
Susan, would it be ok with you if I were to send this suggestion to Bevan?  I think it's a great idea.  Share From: Susan To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 6:44 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread laughinggull108
How about daily peaceful marches during the conference like back during the civil rights movement with signs, speeches, and the whole nine yards? It would have to be off campus of course but would the FF powers-at-be issue the necessary permits for the streets or highways abutting the campus? Wh

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread Susan
Here's an idea, an experiment: Have a 4 week period where anyone who ever got the siddhis can come and fly in the Domes. The TMO could give out special colored badges in advance. No background checks or eliminating a person because they saw another saint etc. Just anyone can come, everyone ve

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > May I ask how you know 27,000 have learnt the sidhis in N. America? > > That is the number bandy-ed about for years that they use. 27,000 govs and in the older days it was said 96,000 citizen meditator-sidhas. > > > _

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread Buck
Son, you were not here so don't just assume things but yes your advice below is good and true about the fourth estate below. That is also how things get done around here. Obviously they read this page and others about themselves and can move in ways accordingly. The meeting was a TM movement

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Commencement speech about the value of Tantra

2013-05-30 Thread Share Long
Ann, fortunately in FF men are not into wearing toupees but many do sport Biblical beards, which I suppose could wave in the wind.  As for the cereal image, Obi Wan would say that the food Force runs strong in the Woelfle family line.  And as for Robin, he seems to be limiting himself to an occa

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread Michael Jackson
May I ask how you know 27,000 have learnt the sidhis in N. America? From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 12:26 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield   --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread doctordumbass
Oh, pussy willow, you activist, you. I don't think your posting of your negative views about the TMO and Maharishi, here, on FFL, have changed anything. Have you ever even written a letter, to any of the MUM administration, pussy willow? Yeah, I didn't think so. Given your negative view of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: A rap about Cognitive Dissonance

2013-05-30 Thread laughinggull108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > > > turq, I like how you emphasize fun and playfulness which Whedon > > didn't bring up til the very end of his address.  And there's > > nothing for me to forgive.  Well exce

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread Share Long
Yay, laughinggull, one of the most creative uses of urls I've ever seen on FFL and welcome back for the nonce (-: From: laughinggull108 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:59 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread laughinggull108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > > > What d'you reckon this is all about? TMO generally don't give away > > > > nothin'. Any thoughts Buck? > > > > > > > > > > Numbers. Group meditation Do

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > Actually there was only one person tonite at the landmark > > meeting who brushed up against this talking about how > > experiences have been compromised in people because of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Invitation: July 7-21 Governors Assembly at MUM Fairfield

2013-05-30 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > Actually there was only one person tonite at the landmark > meeting who brushed up against this talking about how > experiences have been compromised in people because of > an underlying problem. She spoke in code of course with > the big