[FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
Last night, while driving and scanning the radio channels, I happened upon a right wing radio show host, going through Obama's posted daily schedule (from yesterday) and attempting to misconstrue each event into something petty and self serving. Of course I immediately thought of Judy and how she operates here. And I agree, it is a sad waste of potential for her to, day in and day out, post in manner she does. On the other hand, Ravi thinks she's just swell. So that says something I guess. (-:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: feste, thank you so much. Your words came at just the right time, made me cry with relief. Sometimes I'm so astonished by Judy's rampages that I simply don't know what more to say. You supplied the words that brought me some peace. Anyway, this morning I was thinking how sad it is that Judy wastes her talents on me and my alleged transgressions. Imagine how much good she could do for example, if she took on MONSANTO. I mean, really. Such misguided use of her time and energy seems almost tragic to me, or criminal. I still have in my inbox the story about forced feeding at Gitmo that you posted. Helps me keep a more reasonable perspective sometimes. From: feste37 feste37@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 7:51 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: but but but, Judy, what about the Go to hell and bake bagels That seems like a curse to me! I'll assume you're just joking here. àAnyway, in case it was to me, here's my reply: Bagels from hell with love, gluten free for thee and all that lies beneath your grateful belly button, etc. BTW I take everything everybody says and see how it fits with my own experience. So nobody really CONVINCES me of anything. Your self-report is duly noted. Whether it's accurate is another question. Let's just say you give every appearance of being easily swayed by those who purport to support you. As for your list of trustworthy people, I think all and all it's a really good list. But 1 or 2 people on that list often sound prejudiced against me. Yes, as I believe I said, some of us may give you a hard time now and then. I said you could trust us, not that we all thought you were a swell person (nor that we felt *we* could trust *you*, for that matter). Fine, it's their right, etc. But hopefully they'll understand why I then won't be giving their words on anything, much less on me, much credence as a result. By all means, shut out anything anyone says about you that's negative and dismiss it as prejudiced. (You might want to consult a good dictionary for the meaning of that term, BTW. I do not think it means what you think it means.) And I do realize that I might be sensitive about this so I do apologize if I'm misinterpreting someone about this. As best as I can, I resist getting sucked into the ongoing feud on FFL and I will continue to do this. I aim to take each post on its own merit, believing that people do change and grow in their ability to experience and express truth. Interesting that you believe you can change and grow in your ability to experience and express truth while dismissing without consideration anything negative about yourself as prejudice. Remember what I told you about being accountable for your behavior to the FFL community. You are sounding like a pompous, finger-wagging ass, authfriend. (Says feste pompously, wagging his finger. Gee, and just yesterday I had melted down and was reduced to sputtering Yiddish insults. Pretty quick recovery, wouldn't you say?) Indeed, an excellent recovery. Back to your normal self in no time. The thing is authfriend, I actually like you, but it makes me mad when you lay into Share the way you do. It seems unfair and disrespectful. Share enjoys FFL, and most people here appreciate her, so I wish you could stretch yourself and be a little bit nicer to her. Why should that be so hard? The incident that seems to bug you most took place so long ago, why not just forget it, let it go? You talk all the time about honesty and truth, but such things are not always as black and white as you would like us to believe. Our opinions about all kinds of things can change as we reflect on them and consider them. A person can react in a
[FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
Honestly, do you think Judy has flow charts posted througout her apartment. I wouldn't be at all surprised. How bout it Judy, can we see a snapshot of those walls? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote: Absolutely. She would also be great at Media Matters: http://mediamatters.org/ To me, FFL is more like a long, winding conversation than a scholarly journal where everything has to be absolutely accurate and consistent. People write in the moment, according to how they feel at the time, just as people do in conversation. Sometimes they may contradict themselves. (I am not saying that you have done so.) It happens all the time, and it is no big deal. And just as in real-time, actual relationships, it doesn't pay to go back and try to nail people for things they may have said months earlier. Nor does it work to try to force people to make apologies, especially if the apology is to be made to someone else who isn't even asking for one. It's just not a smart thing to do. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: feste, thank you so much. Your words came at just the right time, made me cry with relief. Sometimes I'm so astonished by Judy's rampages that I simply don't know what more to say. You supplied the words that brought me some peace. Anyway, this morning I was thinking how sad it is that Judy wastes her talents on me and my alleged transgressions. Imagine how much good she could do for example, if she took on MONSANTO. I mean, really. Such misguided use of her time and energy seems almost tragic to me, or criminal. I still have in my inbox the story about forced feeding at Gitmo that you posted. Helps me keep a more reasonable perspective sometimes. From: feste37 feste37@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 7:51 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: but but but, Judy, what about the Go to hell and bake bagels That seems like a curse to me! I'll assume you're just joking here. àAnyway, in case it was to me, here's my reply: Bagels from hell with love, gluten free for thee and all that lies beneath your grateful belly button, etc. BTW I take everything everybody says and see how it fits with my own experience. So nobody really CONVINCES me of anything. Your self-report is duly noted. Whether it's accurate is another question. Let's just say you give every appearance of being easily swayed by those who purport to support you. As for your list of trustworthy people, I think all and all it's a really good list. But 1 or 2 people on that list often sound prejudiced against me. Yes, as I believe I said, some of us may give you a hard time now and then. I said you could trust us, not that we all thought you were a swell person (nor that we felt *we* could trust *you*, for that matter). Fine, it's their right, etc. But hopefully they'll understand why I then won't be giving their words on anything, much less on me, much credence as a result. By all means, shut out anything anyone says about you that's negative and dismiss it as prejudiced. (You might want to consult a good dictionary for the meaning of that term, BTW. I do not think it means what you think it means.) And I do realize that I might be sensitive about this so I do apologize if I'm misinterpreting someone about this. As best as I can, I resist getting sucked into the ongoing feud on FFL and I will continue to do this. I aim to take each post on its own merit, believing that people do change and grow in their ability to experience and express truth. Interesting that you believe you can change and grow in your ability to experience and express truth while dismissing without consideration anything negative about yourself as prejudice. Remember what I told you about being accountable for your behavior to the FFL community. You are sounding like a pompous, finger-wagging ass, authfriend. (Says feste pompously, wagging his finger. Gee, and just yesterday I had melted down and was reduced to sputtering Yiddish insults. Pretty quick recovery, wouldn't you say?) Indeed, an excellent recovery. Back to your normal self in no time. The thing is authfriend, I actually like you, but it makes me mad when you lay into Share the way you do. It seems unfair and disrespectful. Share enjoys FFL, and most
[FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: snip Feste and Steve are not around but your sweet-talking, damsel in distress routine means there are no dearth of shameless, brainless, clueless idiots who are ensnared into defending you at all costs - why, Steve's grandson is one of them, continuing in the illustrious footsteps of his grandfather. Hey Rav, I really wouldn't put Judy in the category of damsel in distress, but evidently you do! LYLAB On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: ** Judy if it's not, as you say below, you with whom I need to make it right, then why have you spent the last almost 8 months badgering me about it?! I'm actually starting to think that you don't want me and Robin to reconcile. In fact you said something to that effect just recently to another poster. As for the records, if you want something expunged from them, then I guess you need to speak to Rick and or Alex about it. But again, I actually don't think that's what you really want either. No, I think what you really want is an excuse to keep attacking me for some seriously neurotic reason that exists only in the depths of your neglected psyche. I'm guessing that Robin has not asked you to be his spokesperson in this matter. In that case, I have nothing further to say to you about it, Ms. Becoming More Sanctimonious Every Nanosecond! -- *From:* authfriend authfriend@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, April 24, 2013 8:37 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote: You are sounding like a pompous, finger-wagging ass, authfriend. (Says feste pompously, wagging his finger. Gee, and just yesterday I had melted down and was reduced to sputtering Yiddish insults. Pretty quick recovery, wouldn't you say?) Indeed, an excellent recovery. Back to your normal self in no time. I never was *not* my normal self, feste, as hard as you tried to make it appear so. The thing is authfriend, I actually like you, but it makes me mad when you lay into Share the way you do. Obviously. (You can call me Judy, by the way.) It seems unfair and disrespectful. Share enjoys FFL, and most people here appreciate her, I'd need to see a poll, but this isn't a voting issue. In any case, I don't think many here really understand what's involved. so I wish you could stretch yourself and be a little bit nicer to her. Why should that be so hard? The incident that seems to bug you most took place so long ago, why not just forget it, let it go? Because it was a terrible, awful thing for her to say, a *malevolent* thing for her to say, something that was intended to do serious damage to a person who had done and was continuing to do his damndest to rectify the situation. It was based on Share's misunderstanding of something entirely innocuous that he had said. She needs to retract it and apologize to him, for the sake of her own soul if nothing else. You talk all the time about honesty and truth, but such things are not always as black and white as you would like us to believe. Our opinions about all kinds of things can change as we reflect on them and consider them. A person can react in a certain way at the time to some incident involving someone else, but later (days, weeks, even months), the incident might seem rather different to them than it did at first. So they start to recontextualize it, to think of it in a different light. This happens all the time in relationships. It doesn't mean the person is being dishonest. Indeed, sometimes it means that they are in fact being very honest -- to their changing feelings and understandings about what took place. Generally speaking, all this is true, but not always. I do not believe that was the case here, for a number of reasons that I've already explained *and documented* a number of times that your apologia cannot account for. I don't think Share can account for them either, and I strongly suspect that's why she has refused to provide a straightforward explanation--because if it were honest, it would reflect very badly on her, and perhaps even worse on some others. Share has tried in her own way to make it right with you, so why not take a step or two toward her? It isn't me she needs to make it right with. And the steps she has taken have been designed to get me off her back without revealing the real story. She has also refused to retract the accusation she made against Robin. She says only that she isn't making that accusation *now*--but the original accusation is still on
[FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: It's hard to read, feste, that you consider calling someone a psychological rapist to be no big deal. Hey Judy, would you care to put your well honed investigative skills to work and show where Share actually used this, exact, term in addressing, or referring to Robin, or is just this just some concoction on your part. I'll wait. P.S. A straight answer will be preferred if you are capable of one. Oh, darn, you might be out of posts. No matter, Friday's come up. I guess twiddle your fingers till then. But it does explain why you take the position that Share has done nothing wrong with regard to Robin, and why you are unwilling to acknowledge that she has blatantly contradicted herself in how she has described her experience of their upset. I'm glad you went on the record with this. It tells us something important about you. A number of things, actually. (snip) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: (snip) Anyway, this morning I was thinking how sad it is that Judy wastes her talents on me and my alleged transgressions. Imagine how much good she could do for example, if she took on MONSANTO. I want to be *ready* when I go after Monsanto, Share. I've been in training for a long time. Taking you on is the culmination of that training. It won't be long now before I take that monstrous company down. Which means you're an important part of my efforts to expiate the negative karma I accrued many years ago when I worked at an ad agency on its Monsanto Roundup account. (Not making that last bit up. I quit shortly after I started TM to work for myself, but I've always felt guilty about having helped promote Roundup.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
Judy, honey, hopefully you have extinguished your fifty posts for the week, But thank you, thank you very much for this Share - Monsanto tirade. This truly is one for the records books. Share's stature in your mind is of global proportions. Yes, it's true, I've liked her from the start, but you are elevating her status to a whole other level. But it's pretty good entertainment, if it wasn't so poisonous to the person spewing it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: Just in case anyone reading this post of Share's is brainless enough to have been taken in by it (Share evidently has little respect for the intelligence of FFLers), allow me to explain a couple of things: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Judy if it's not, as you say below, you with whom I need to make it right, then why have you spent the last almost 8 months badgering me about it?! What I've been badgering Share about is, of course, to make it right with Robin. I'm actually starting to think that you don't want me and Robin to reconcile. In fact you said something to that effect just recently to another poster. Actually I said this just recently *to Share*. Odd that she would get that wrong, isn't it? What I said to Share was that I would not recommend to Robin that he reconcile with her. I would recommend that he stay as far away from her as possible, even if she were to retract and apologize for her accusation. That's something she needs to do just on the general principle of doing the right thing, not in hopes of a reconciliation. It's too late for that, but it's never too late to do the right thing. As for the records, if you want something expunged from them, then I guess you need to speak to Rick and or Alex about it. I don't think anybody here is so metaphorically challenged as Share seems to think, but just in case: If Share were to explicitly retract and apologize for her accusation, that would constitute taking it off the record. But again, I actually don't think that's what you really want either. No, I think what you really want is an excuse to keep attacking me for some seriously neurotic reason that exists only in the depths of your neglected psyche. Oh, my goodness. I have more than enough excuses to stay on Share's back indefinitely. Her reprehensible treatment of Robin is just at the top of my list. You know what would stop me? If Share retracted her accusation, apologized to Robin, *and* gave up her phony, dishonest act on FFL. (Try it and see, Share. You will feel so much better once you've made peace with reality and no longer need to constantly throw up barriers against it.) I'm guessing that Robin has not asked you to be his spokesperson in this matter. Share is absolutely right. I have, of course, been speaking for myself all along. In that case, I have nothing further to say to you about it, Share never *has* had anything to say to me about it, so this doesn't represent any change in her behavior. That's the problem, you see. She's been doing an intricate dance (including in the post I'm responding to) in an attempt to *avoid* addressing the points I've raised about her dishonesty in this matter. Ms. Becoming More Sanctimonious Every Nanosecond! sanctimony: affected or hypocritical holiness Share describes herself to a T. Decent human beings see the exposure of falsehood to be about the discovery of reality and the promotion of justice. Sanctimonious human beings project their own hypocrisy onto those seeking the truth.
[FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOmqv6V44Sk --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Sally Sunshine was the epitome of innocence, purity and beauty. She had long blonde hair and big beautiful blue eyes, men lusted after her and worshipped the very ground she walked on. Women, well, they just hated her. This is it Share, as simple and pure as that. Her very innocent purity, alas turned out to be her transgression. Oh how poor Sal suffered at the hands of Judy, the evil witch of FFL. But Share - one day, a stranger, a handsome, strong youth with equally blond hair and equally blue eyes arrived - Curtis as he was known as, feared for his prowess, valor. They fell in love and Curtis rescued Sal from Judy, the evil witch and they both galloped away in Curtis's horse to a magical, beautiful, mysterious land and they both lived happily ever after. On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: What was her alleged transgression against Judy?
[FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
Ravi, I'm not sure you'd still even know what to do with a set if you were fortunate to come across them. That's why you got me. I can help you navigate these kinds of situations. Here for ya bro. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Hey Doc - stop being such an attention vampire, big tits are a turn off for me, I recall Sal being skinny with beautiful small tits, you think she was curvy with really big tits - let's just agree to disagree. The point here is the vile, vindictiveness of the evil witch Judy. On Apr 25, 2013, at 11:01 AM, doctordumbass@... no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: LOL - I heard she had really big tits, too! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Sally Sunshine was the epitome of innocence, purity and beauty. She had long blonde hair and big beautiful blue eyes, men lusted after her and worshipped the very ground she walked on. Women, well, they just hated her. This is it Share, as simple and pure as that. Her very innocent purity, alas turned out to be her transgression. Oh how poor Sal suffered at the hands of Judy, the evil witch of FFL. But Share - one day, a stranger, a handsome, strong youth with equally blond hair and equally blue eyes arrived - Curtis as he was known as, feared for his prowess, valor. They fell in love and Curtis rescued Sal from Judy, the evil witch and they both galloped away in Curtis's horse to a magical, beautiful, mysterious land and they both lived happily ever after. On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: What was her alleged transgression against Judy?
[FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
Subject matter Rav. Subject matter. There are times when I get my game face on. This qualifies. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: See - how you don't come across as an obnoxious, moronic troll here? This is funny. Good progress Steve - stick to this (not the big tits but the style of the post :-)) and we can all enjoy your posts again. On Apr 25, 2013, at 11:54 AM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Ravi, I'm not sure you'd still even know what to do with a set if you were fortunate to come across them. That's why you got me. I can help you navigate these kinds of situations. Here for ya bro. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Hey Doc - stop being such an attention vampire, big tits are a turn off for me, I recall Sal being skinny with beautiful small tits, you think she was curvy with really big tits - let's just agree to disagree. The point here is the vile, vindictiveness of the evil witch Judy. On Apr 25, 2013, at 11:01 AM, doctordumbass@ no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: LOL - I heard she had really big tits, too! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Sally Sunshine was the epitome of innocence, purity and beauty. She had long blonde hair and big beautiful blue eyes, men lusted after her and worshipped the very ground she walked on. Women, well, they just hated her. This is it Share, as simple and pure as that. Her very innocent purity, alas turned out to be her transgression. Oh how poor Sal suffered at the hands of Judy, the evil witch of FFL. But Share - one day, a stranger, a handsome, strong youth with equally blond hair and equally blue eyes arrived - Curtis as he was known as, feared for his prowess, valor. They fell in love and Curtis rescued Sal from Judy, the evil witch and they both galloped away in Curtis's horse to a magical, beautiful, mysterious land and they both lived happily ever after. On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: What was her alleged transgression against Judy?
[FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog wrote: This is what I think you meant to say Raunch, and in the absence of a qualified editor, I will assume the role. And finally you're making some sense. The evil witch Judy is no match for Share.
[FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: OMG dear RD - you had to join this get-Share fest, this get-Share orgy isn't it? Remember this dear RD - would John Newton approve of this? Recall he is already quite pissed off at depriving your granddaughter of his goat fainting healing magic. All well and good Ravi,but let's call it like it is. It's a you don't get Share fest You need to gettus your headus outofyour tuchuss* then maybe you'll have more luck * old Yiddish expression
[FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
I'm sorry Ravi. Thank God you're a Brahmin. You'd never make it as a Kshatriya. But no matter. Ya got friends.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHFy3YWpRx8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHFy3YWpRx8 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: On Apr 25, 2013, at 1:43 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: OMG dear RD - you had to join this get-Share fest, this get-Share orgy isn't it? Remember this dear RD - would John Newton approve of this? Recall he is already quite pissed off at depriving your granddaughter of his goat fainting healing magic. All well and good Ravi,but let's call it like it is. It's a you don't get Share fest You need to gettus your headus outofyour tuchuss* then maybe you'll have more luck * old Yiddish expression This is totally inappropriate. It's nebulous, malicious, obnoxious, outrageous. This man is just trolling for attention.
[FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
Boy, boy, crazy boy, keep cool boy. Got a rocket, in your pocket, turn off the juice boy. Go man go, but not like a yo-yo, cool boy, just play it cool. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkdP02HKQGc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkdP02HKQGc BTW, you're not making a lot of sense. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: That was my attorney Jackie Chiles you idiot. On Apr 25, 2013, at 1:55 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: I'm sorry Ravi. Thank God you're a Brahmin. You'd never make it as a Kshatriya. But no matter. Ya got friends. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHFy3YWpRx8 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: On Apr 25, 2013, at 1:43 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: OMG dear RD - you had to join this get-Share fest, this get-Share orgy isn't it? Remember this dear RD - would John Newton approve of this? Recall he is already quite pissed off at depriving your granddaughter of his goat fainting healing magic. All well and good Ravi,but let's call it like it is. It's a you don't get Share fest You need to gettus your headus outofyour tuchuss* then maybe you'll have more luck * old Yiddish expression This is totally inappropriate. It's nebulous, malicious, obnoxious, outrageous. This man is just trolling for attention.
[FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Stop irritating me with your irrelevant videos Steve, I don't have to make any sense to idiots like you - but Jackie sure will knock some sense in to you - got taken aback there didn't you? Ravi, do you even know what you are talking about. I think you are getting this Jackie Chiles and Jackie Chan mixed up. But I think I think you'll figure it out. At least I hope so! And let's be real, given your track record with lawyers got taken aback there didn't you? Anyway don't you have better things to do - like console your poor, pitta-putrefied, paranoid friend Share? Ravi, you are doing what's known in the trade as babbling. Please stop embarassing yourself. A smoke break might have been in order here. Some nice deep drags might have done you a load of good. Even Barry asked her to stop stalking her friend Sal !!! Hooboy. Is this where the term off the rails' comes from? On Apr 25, 2013, at 2:22 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Boy, boy, crazy boy, keep cool boy. Got a rocket, in your pocket, turn off the juice boy. Go man go, but not like a yo-yo, cool boy, just play it cool. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkdP02HKQGc BTW, you're not making a lot of sense. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: That was my attorney Jackie Chiles you idiot. On Apr 25, 2013, at 1:55 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: I'm sorry Ravi. Thank God you're a Brahmin. You'd never make it as a Kshatriya. But no matter. Ya got friends. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHFy3YWpRx8 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: On Apr 25, 2013, at 1:43 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: OMG dear RD - you had to join this get-Share fest, this get-Share orgy isn't it? Remember this dear RD - would John Newton approve of this? Recall he is already quite pissed off at depriving your granddaughter of his goat fainting healing magic. All well and good Ravi,but let's call it like it is. It's a you don't get Share fest You need to gettus your headus outofyour tuchuss* then maybe you'll have more luck * old Yiddish expression This is totally inappropriate. It's nebulous, malicious, obnoxious, outrageous. This man is just trolling for attention.
[FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
You are vomiting Ravi. You might want to try the toilet. They should have a nice one where you work. Or at least tomorrow, if it should come up again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Sorry dear Share we all got distracted by your stalking err searching for Sal. Considering your disability I have made this real easy for you. Please feel free to take the help of the idiots Feste and Steve. Your post referring to my grandmother below has the characteristics of which of the following a) Phony b) Passive-aggressive c) Platitude puking d) Pitta-putrefied e) Paranoid d) My heart says (a) but it's probably (b) g) My intuition says (b) but it's probably (d) h) My gut says (e) but it's probably (a) i) Feste may say sweet but it's (a) j) Steve may say Kali but it's (b) h) Any of the above k) All of the above Remember there's no right or wrong answer and there's good and bad in you and imagine this process to be a kind of a spring cleaning for your chakras which even the likes of John Newton may approve. Love, Ravi On Apr 25, 2013, at 4:54 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: dear Ravi, even before I read this tale of grandsons illustrious and otherwise, I was remembering that sweet sweet photo of you with your Grandmother. See how in tune we are?! Anyway, IMHO what's in that photo is what's really important in life. love, Share From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:59 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL Dear Share, A sincere apology entails honesty, accountability and integrity and you show none of these qualities - all we see is this bait and switch of an impending apology while you continue along your phony, passive-aggressive, platitude-filled posts. You continue this week after week, this bait and switch strategy and I can clearly see this. Year 2043 - you are in ICU, you can't talk but due to the advances made after the hugely popular book of Dr. Curtis M - NDE's - the perspective of the Epistemological Purity of Neuroscience - my grandson who is your attending neurosurgeon, and the only Neurosurgeon to be enlightened, analyzes your brain scans which Steve's grandson converts as posts to FFL. You are already wildly popular as the leading subject of Dr. Curtis M's book, the only person in history who slips into NDE every week. Robin's not alive but his brain scans show he had an ADE(After Death Experience) and is in heaven chilling with Jesus forcing God to get an Internet connection so he has access to Merriam Webster and a decent ability to keep up with Robin. But my super intelligent, enlightened grandson doesn't break the news of Robin's passing away considering your fragile state. Yet week after week your posts still reflect your willingness to reconcile with Robin interspersed with your other phony, passive-aggressive, platitude-filled posts. Feste and Steve are not around but your sweet-talking, damsel in distress routine means there are no dearth of shameless, brainless, clueless idiots who are ensnared into defending you at all costs - why, Steve's grandson is one of them, continuing in the illustrious footsteps of his grandfather. On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Judy if it's not, as you say below, you with whom I need to make it right, then why have you spent the last almost 8 months badgering me about it?! I'm actually starting to think that you don't want me and Robin to reconcile. In fact you said something to that effect just recently to another poster. As for the records, if you want something expunged from them, then I guess you need to speak to Rick and or Alex about it. But again, I actually don't think that's what you really want either. No, I think what you really want is an excuse to keep attacking me for some seriously neurotic reason that exists only in the depths of your neglected psyche. I'm guessing that Robin has not asked you to be his spokesperson in this matter. In that case, I have nothing further to say to you about it, Ms. Becoming More Sanctimonious Every Nanosecond! From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 8:37 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote: You are sounding like a pompous, finger-wagging ass, authfriend. (Says feste pompously, wagging his finger. Gee, and just yesterday I had melted down and was reduced to sputtering Yiddish insults. Pretty quick recovery, wouldn't you say?) Indeed, an excellent recovery. Back to your normal self in no time. I never was
[FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: Gez, I think you just gave away Sal's first name. How could you? Steve, is Barry despicable for doing this or just being silly? Hi Ann, No Ruth is not Sal's first name. I do happen to know what it is so I can say that with some authority. Ruth was another contributor who had some good posts, or at least I thought so. I think in Ruth's case, she tired of the nitpickiness for which Judy is known for. Actually I thought Judy raised some good points with Ruth. IMO it didn't get to the level of nitpicking that I often find objectionable in Judy's posting. And in the case of Sal, (and I have nothing to base this on, other than my own opinion) I think that she finally had had enough of the constant demeaning from Judy, not at all unlike what we see from Judy towards Share. Although in Share's case I think Judy has amped it up. Putting Share on the level of Monsanto is a first I believe. - What was Andrew Skolnick's mortal sin that she spent *years* stalking him on alt.m.t. and still rants about him occasionally on FFL, a decade after he last posted to any TM forum? - What did John Knapp do to deserve Judy's never- ending hatred? - What exactly does Judy have against Vaj? - What made Judy turn on John from Brazil (do.rflex) and spend so many posts trying to demonize him? - What is it about Curtis (whom most people like) that drives Judy crazy and causes her to devote so much time to trying to get other people to hate him as much as she does? - What was it about Barry that caused Judy to start stalking him within days of his first appearance on alt.m.t., and to continue doing so -- pretty much non-stop -- for over EIGHTEEN YEARS? Steve, I think it is Barry who has the almighty flow chart posted on his wall and he seems to carry it with him wherever he goes. There. That should give her something to do while sitting on the Post Flood bench. :-) Isn't it GREAT that Rick invented the Posting Limits?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Responses to DrD, Stevie-poo, Share, and Barry
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: Using my last post of the week to clean up a bunch of pathetic messes: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: It's hard to read, feste, that you consider calling someone a psychological rapist to be no big deal. Hey Judy, would you care to put your well honed investigative skills to work and show where Share actually used this, exact, term in addressing, or referring to Robin, or is just this just some concoction on your part. I'll wait. P.S. A straight answer will be preferred if you are capable of one. Well, yours is not a straight question, but I'll give you a straight answer anyway: As you know, you're just echoing Share's dimwit ploy. As you also know, I pointed out to her that someone who commits rape (psychological or physical) is *by definition* a rapist. So if you claim you were psychologically raped by somebody, as Share did, you are ipso facto accusing them of being a psychological rapist. Right Judy. So the fact is that Share never called Robin a psychological rapist. That's what we call in the trade, the bottom line. That is a business term that is often applied to other situations. Another example might be something like saying someone hit a home run in a non baseball context. These all come under the heading of devices that are sometimes used by writers. Wait, could we also say that you are what is called a, a, a, LIAR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Judy, honey, hopefully you have extinguished your fifty posts for the week, But thank you, thank you very much for this Share - Monsanto tirade. You're not even smart enough to respond to the right post. This one had nothing to do with Monsanto. But I'll comment on your remarks as if they had been in response to the correct post: This truly is one for the records books. Share's stature in your mind is of global proportions. Yes, it's true, I've liked her from the start, but you are elevating her status to a whole other level. You missed the irony *again*, Stevie boy. It was Share who elevated *me* to global stature by suggesting that I was so powerful I could take on Monsanto. I'm just riffing on that idiocy. Well good. Thank you for clarifying that. Mostly I am just happy for you. I never can be sure of how far off the rails* you can get. * this is another figure of speech applied to a non railroad situation. But it's pretty good entertainment, if it wasn't so poisonous to the person spewing it. Sorry to disappoint you, but actually I'm immune to my own poison. That doesn't surprise me. But it has a tendency to ooze out of you. Sort of like someone who eats a ton of garlic. Eventually it starts to come out of the pores. Hopefully it did cause Share some discomfort (although she'll deny it), if only because of the effort required for her to block out the reality and pretend she was untouched by it. I can't speak for Share, but Idon't think anyone enjoys being the target of your constant, vicious, demeaning attacks. (and I can't help but feeling that a slight smile come over your face at these words) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: turq, please don't you go daft too. Of course I figured Sunshine was not her last name! But I wanted to kid Doc without fibbing so I did look it up in the FF phone book. Besides I don't think having been bullied by Judy makes a great basis for anything Actually Sal was the bully. I just bullied her back, and she didn't like it. Epitaph material here. (replacing Sal with fill in the blank) (snip) Just how desperate Judy is shows in her most recent jabs at feste. Feste and Robin, as best as I remember, have had only cordial and interesting exchanges. But Judy seems to be trying to put the kabash (Kibosh, not kabash.) on that friendship too. Hmmm, detecting a pattern, light bulb going on over Share head... Light bulb going on over Share['s] head: Oh, boy, I'll bet I can make feste loathe Judy and make Robin loathe feste *and* Judy by pretending she was trying to create enmity between them. You poor sap. Did you really think I wouldn't correct you? Did you really think either feste or Robin would fall for this? (What was the *other* friendship I've been trying to put the k[ibo]sh on, by the way?) In the first place, as I'm quite sure you know, feste not long ago went through a phase of denouncing Robin rather nastily. He's told us he got over that, and I hope it's true, because he and Robin *did* have some wonderful exchanges. In the second place, my jab at feste had to do with his dismissing your accusation that Robin was a psychological rapist as no big deal. That's shocking, and what it told us about him was that he was willing
[FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
Ravi, you're in a league of your own with the reactive, frivolous, stupid posts. But I liked the lawyer bit. I wish you'd stay on that theme a little more. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you be - is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are in? Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my complete attention to it, I promise. Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence - anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give me something Steve baby. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:25 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...wrote: ** You are vomiting Ravi. You might want to try the toilet. They should have a nice one where you work. Or at least tomorrow, if it should come up again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Sorry dear Share we all got distracted by your stalking err searching for Sal. Considering your disability I have made this real easy for you. Please feel free to take the help of the idiots Feste and Steve. Your post referring to my grandmother below has the characteristics of which of the following a) Phony b) Passive-aggressive c) Platitude puking d) Pitta-putrefied e) Paranoid d) My heart says (a) but it's probably (b) g) My intuition says (b) but it's probably (d) h) My gut says (e) but it's probably (a) i) Feste may say sweet but it's (a) j) Steve may say Kali but it's (b) h) Any of the above k) All of the above Remember there's no right or wrong answer and there's good and bad in you and imagine this process to be a kind of a spring cleaning for your chakras which even the likes of John Newton may approve. Love, Ravi On Apr 25, 2013, at 4:54 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: dear Ravi, even before I read this tale of grandsons illustrious and otherwise, I was remembering that sweet sweet photo of you with your Grandmother. See how in tune we are?! Anyway, IMHO what's in that photo is what's really important in life. love, Share From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:59 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL Dear Share, A sincere apology entails honesty, accountability and integrity and you show none of these qualities - all we see is this bait and switch of an impending apology while you continue along your phony, passive-aggressive, platitude-filled posts. You continue this week after week, this bait and switch strategy and I can clearly see this. Year 2043 - you are in ICU, you can't talk but due to the advances made after the hugely popular book of Dr. Curtis M - NDE's - the perspective of the Epistemological Purity of Neuroscience - my grandson who is your attending neurosurgeon, and the only Neurosurgeon to be enlightened, analyzes your brain scans which Steve's grandson converts as posts to FFL. You are already wildly popular as the leading subject of Dr. Curtis M's book, the only person in history who slips into NDE every week. Robin's not alive but his brain scans show he had an ADE(After Death Experience) and is in heaven chilling with Jesus forcing God to get an Internet connection so he has access to Merriam Webster and a decent ability to keep up with Robin. But my super intelligent, enlightened grandson doesn't break the news of Robin's passing away considering your fragile state. Yet week after week your posts still reflect your willingness to reconcile with Robin interspersed with your other phony, passive-aggressive, platitude-filled posts. Feste and Steve are not around but your sweet-talking, damsel in distress routine means there are no dearth of shameless, brainless, clueless idiots who are ensnared into defending you at all costs - why, Steve's grandson is one of them, continuing in the illustrious footsteps of his grandfather. On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Judy if it's not, as you say below, you with whom I need to make it right, then why have you spent the last almost 8 months badgering me about it?! I'm actually starting to think that you don't want me and Robin to reconcile. In fact you said something to that effect just recently to another poster. As for the records, if you want something expunged from them, then I guess you need to speak to Rick and or Alex about it. But again, I actually don't think that's what you really want either. No, I think what you really want is an excuse to keep attacking me for some
[FairfieldLife] Re: Responses to DrD, Stevie-poo, Share, and Barry
Ravi, you are a piece of work. Perhaps at some point you will realize that people change, situations change, and people respond to them accordingly. Even if you find yourself stuck in the same rut, others may not be so stuck. Does this remind you of someone you know, rather intimately? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbYIGS8lvf8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbYIGS8lvf8 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Just how desperate Judy is shows in her most recent jabs at feste. Feste and Robin, as best as I remember, have had only cordial and interesting exchanges. But Judy seems to be trying to put the kabash Uncle Feste of yore - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/298103 On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 7:27 PM, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Sorry, but that reminds me, would a male, or lesbian, (snip) DrD, no matter what Sal's faults may be, this post was out of line, IMHO. Nobody deserves this kind of crap. Using my last post of the week to clean up a bunch of pathetic messes: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: It's hard to read, feste, that you consider calling someone a psychological rapist to be no big deal. Hey Judy, would you care to put your well honed investigative skills to work and show where Share actually used this, exact, term in addressing, or referring to Robin, or is just this just some concoction on your part. I'll wait. P.S. A straight answer will be preferred if you are capable of one. Well, yours is not a straight question, but I'll give you a straight answer anyway: As you know, you're just echoing Share's dimwit ploy. As you also know, I pointed out to her that someone who commits rape (psychological or physical) is *by definition* a rapist. So if you claim you were psychologically raped by somebody, as Share did, you are ipso facto accusing them of being a psychological rapist. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Judy, honey, hopefully you have extinguished your fifty posts for the week, But thank you, thank you very much for this Share - Monsanto tirade. You're not even smart enough to respond to the right post. This one had nothing to do with Monsanto. But I'll comment on your remarks as if they had been in response to the correct post: This truly is one for the records books. Share's stature in your mind is of global proportions. Yes, it's true, I've liked her from the start, but you are elevating her status to a whole other level. You missed the irony *again*, Stevie boy. It was Share who elevated *me* to global stature by suggesting that I was so powerful I could take on Monsanto. I'm just riffing on that idiocy. But it's pretty good entertainment, if it wasn't so poisonous to the person spewing it. Sorry to disappoint you, but actually I'm immune to my own poison. Hopefully it did cause Share some discomfort (although she'll deny it), if only because of the effort required for her to block out the reality and pretend she was untouched by it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: turq, please don't you go daft too. Of course I figured Sunshine was not her last name! But I wanted to kid Doc without fibbing so I did look it up in the FF phone book. Besides I don't think having been bullied by Judy makes a great basis for anything Actually Sal was the bully. I just bullied her back, and she didn't like it. (snip) Just how desperate Judy is shows in her most recent jabs at feste. Feste and Robin, as best as I remember, have had only cordial and interesting exchanges. But Judy seems to be trying to put the kabash (Kibosh, not kabash.) on that friendship too. Hmmm, detecting a pattern, light bulb going on over Share head... Light bulb going on over Share['s] head: Oh, boy, I'll bet I can make feste loathe Judy and make Robin loathe feste *and* Judy by pretending she was trying to create enmity between them. You poor sap. Did you really think I wouldn't correct you? Did you really think either feste or Robin would fall for this? (What was the *other* friendship I've been trying to put the k[ibo]sh on, by the way?) In the first place, as I'm quite sure you know, feste not long ago went through a phase of denouncing Robin rather nastily. He's told us he got over that, and I hope it's true, because he and Robin *did* have some wonderful exchanges. In the second place, my jab at feste had to do with his dismissing your accusation that Robin was a psychological rapist as no big deal. That's shocking, and what it told us about him was that he
[FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
Ravi, you really are wearing me out. I can only toy with you for so long. It's two hours earlier where you are. I'm getting ready to turn in. Try something to calm yourself down before you retire for the evening. That's what I'm going to do. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you be - is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are in? Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my complete attention to it, I promise. Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence - anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give me something Steve baby. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:58 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...wrote: ** Ravi, you're in a league of your own with the reactive, frivolous, stupid posts. But I liked the lawyer bit. I wish you'd stay on that theme a little more. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you be - is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are in? Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my complete attention to it, I promise. Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence - anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give me something Steve baby. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:25 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...: ** You are vomiting Ravi. You might want to try the toilet. They should have a nice one where you work. Or at least tomorrow, if it should come up again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Sorry dear Share we all got distracted by your stalking err searching for Sal. Considering your disability I have made this real easy for you. Please feel free to take the help of the idiots Feste and Steve. Your post referring to my grandmother below has the characteristics of which of the following a) Phony b) Passive-aggressive c) Platitude puking d) Pitta-putrefied e) Paranoid d) My heart says (a) but it's probably (b) g) My intuition says (b) but it's probably (d) h) My gut says (e) but it's probably (a) i) Feste may say sweet but it's (a) j) Steve may say Kali but it's (b) h) Any of the above k) All of the above Remember there's no right or wrong answer and there's good and bad in you and imagine this process to be a kind of a spring cleaning for your chakras which even the likes of John Newton may approve. Love, Ravi On Apr 25, 2013, at 4:54 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: dear Ravi, even before I read this tale of grandsons illustrious and otherwise, I was remembering that sweet sweet photo of you with your Grandmother. See how in tune we are?! Anyway, IMHO what's in that photo is what's really important in life. love, Share From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:59 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL Dear Share, A sincere apology entails honesty, accountability and integrity and you show none of these qualities - all we see is this bait and switch of an impending apology while you continue along your phony, passive-aggressive, platitude-filled posts. You continue this week after week, this bait and switch strategy and I can clearly see this. Year 2043 - you are in ICU, you can't talk but due to the advances made after the hugely popular book of Dr. Curtis M - NDE's - the perspective of the Epistemological Purity of Neuroscience - my grandson who is your attending neurosurgeon, and the only Neurosurgeon to be enlightened, analyzes your brain scans which Steve's grandson converts as posts to FFL. You are already wildly popular as the leading subject of Dr. Curtis M's book, the only person in history who slips into NDE every week. Robin's not alive but his brain scans show he had an ADE(After Death Experience) and is in heaven chilling with Jesus forcing God to get an Internet connection so he has access to Merriam Webster and a decent ability to keep up with Robin. But my super intelligent, enlightened grandson doesn't break the news of Robin's passing away considering your fragile state. Yet week after week
[FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: Gez, I think you just gave away Sal's first name. How could you? Steve, is Barry despicable for doing this or just being silly? Hi Ann, No Ruth is not Sal's first name. I do happen to know what it is so I can say that with some authority. Ruth was another contributor who had some good posts, or at least I thought so. I think in Ruth's case, she tired of the nitpickiness for which Judy is known for. Actually I thought Judy raised some good points with Ruth. IMO it didn't get to the level of nitpicking that I often find objectionable in Judy's posting. And in the case of Sal, (and I have nothing to base this on, other than my own opinion) I think that she finally had had enough of the constant demeaning from Judy, not at all unlike what we see from Judy towards Share. Although in Share's case I think Judy has amped it up. Putting Share on the level of Monsanto is a first I believe. Hey Steve. I 've missed you here. You went strangely silent for the last few days and then Ravi showed up and you got verrry animated! In fact, this afternoon became a veritable flurry of activity here at FFL. It has been really, really entertaining. That is good that Sal's name is not Ruth because it didn't sound like it should be Ruth, it just didn't FEEL right. Plus, Ruth is quite an old fashioned name. It was my mother's name actually and she was born in 1921 and I doubt Sal is that old. Too bad I missed all the action here when she was around because I don't have any real 'take' on her other than she had a pretty good mouth on her. Yes, she did, and it makes me smile just thinking of some of things she would say. I wonder if people will remember Judy so fondly when she quits this place; it sounds like Sal was quite a pistol and of course Judy could qualify as an Uzi in comparison. But I doubt, if Sal was half of what she seems to be cracked up to be, that Judy could have demeaned Sal to the point where she exited this place. That would disappoint me. Barry feels that was not the case. The thing is Ann, I think continually being called STUPID SAL, constantly can take a toll of sorts. At some point you weigh the cost/benefit analysis and decide, maybe this just isn't worth it Now about that Monsanto thing. I read it that Share said Judy should take on Monsanto. I don't think it had anything to do with Share being equated with Monsanto by Judy. Why not check it out for both of us so we get it right? Ann, I think you are right, and I got it wrong. That happens when you are trying to do too many things at once. I'm not sure I will get back to sort out the details. I just got it wrong. Anyway, you keep that Ravi in line, okay? I think you're just the man for the job - he is such a pest and what is with all those insults he keeps throwing around? Maybe he's trying to quit smoking and is just a bit cranky these days. At any rate, I don't want to take him on, he sort of likes me at the moment and I want to keep it that way. The last thing I want is either Judy or Ravi to start harping at me. One they get the taste of blood it's over, man. Ann, let's just talk, you and me. Really, I think you would be better trying to keep Ravi in line. But I understand you reluctance to do this. Anyway, glad to see you're back and in full swing. Raunchy even made an appearance today. The only one conspicuous by his absence was Curtis - oh, and Robin but he doesn't really count. I miss Robin. I do. But you can be sure he is reading every word here. I think Curtis also, takes most of it in. Certainly I miss him. - What was Andrew Skolnick's mortal sin that she spent *years* stalking him on alt.m.t. and still rants about him occasionally on FFL, a decade after he last posted to any TM forum? - What did John Knapp do to deserve Judy's never- ending hatred? - What exactly does Judy have against Vaj? - What made Judy turn on John from Brazil (do.rflex) and spend so many posts trying to demonize him? - What is it about Curtis (whom most people like) that drives Judy crazy and causes her to devote so much time to trying to get other people to hate him as much as she does? - What was it about Barry that caused Judy to start stalking him within days of his first appearance on alt.m.t., and to continue doing so -- pretty much non-stop -- for over EIGHTEEN YEARS? Steve, I think it is Barry who has the almighty flow chart posted on his wall and he seems to carry it with him wherever he goes. There. That should give her something to do while sitting on the Post Flood bench. :-) Isn't it GREAT that Rick invented the Posting Limits?
[FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
Good work Barry! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Ravi, you really are wearing me out. I can only toy with you for so long. It's two hours earlier where you are. I'm getting ready to turn in. Try something to calm yourself down before you retire for the evening. That's what I'm going to do. Here's something to give you nightmares. Ravi and Dr.Dumbass pose for photos: http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-10-greatest-wrestler-glamour-shots-all-time/ :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you be - is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are in? Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my complete attention to it, I promise. Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence - anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give me something Steve baby. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:58 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@: ** Ravi, you're in a league of your own with the reactive, frivolous, stupid posts. But I liked the lawyer bit. I wish you'd stay on that theme a little more. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you be - is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are in? Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my complete attention to it, I promise. Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence - anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give me something Steve baby. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:25 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@: ** You are vomiting Ravi. You might want to try the toilet. They should have a nice one where you work. Or at least tomorrow, if it should come up again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Sorry dear Share we all got distracted by your stalking err searching for Sal. Considering your disability I have made this real easy for you. Please feel free to take the help of the idiots Feste and Steve. Your post referring to my grandmother below has the characteristics of which of the following a) Phony b) Passive-aggressive c) Platitude puking d) Pitta-putrefied e) Paranoid d) My heart says (a) but it's probably (b) g) My intuition says (b) but it's probably (d) h) My gut says (e) but it's probably (a) i) Feste may say sweet but it's (a) j) Steve may say Kali but it's (b) h) Any of the above k) All of the above Remember there's no right or wrong answer and there's good and bad in you and imagine this process to be a kind of a spring cleaning for your chakras which even the likes of John Newton may approve. Love, Ravi On Apr 25, 2013, at 4:54 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: dear Ravi, even before I read this tale of grandsons illustrious and otherwise, I was remembering that sweet sweet photo of you with your Grandmother. See how in tune we are?! Anyway, IMHO what's in that photo is what's really important in life. love, Share From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:59 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL Dear Share, A sincere apology entails honesty, accountability and integrity and you show none of these qualities - all we see is this bait and switch of an impending apology while you continue along your phony, passive-aggressive, platitude-filled posts. You continue this week after week, this bait and switch strategy and I can clearly see this. Year 2043 - you are in ICU, you can't talk but due to the advances made after the hugely popular book of Dr. Curtis M - NDE's - the perspective of the Epistemological Purity of Neuroscience - my grandson who is your attending neurosurgeon, and the only Neurosurgeon to be enlightened, analyzes your brain scans which
[FairfieldLife] Re: Responses to DrD, Stevie-poo, Share, and Barry
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: Come on Steve, at least concede this point. You only look silly not to admit that it follows if someone said they had been psychologically raped by X then it follows that the accuser is saying X is a psychological rapist. To deny this is so makes it appear you either don't know that 1+1=2 or that you have no degree of rational, logical reasoning or that in your efforts to defend someone you are willing to look like a fool. Think about who we are dealing with Ann. Ms. Editor, Ms. Corrector, the person who insists on exactness, but who is willing to (attempt, at least) spin any situation to try to prove a point. Share did not say those words. Judy puts those words in quotes as though she did. To me there is a subtle difference between feeling that one was psychologically raped, and calling someone a psychological rapist Of course your mileage may vary. That is fine. Certainly Judy, (and perhaps this is your take), feels that techincally there is no difference. I just see it differently. Now on that note I am going to sleep. Fun is fun but tomorrow is another day and I am sure we will all have lots of fascinating examples of the human character to analyze and enjoy then. Good night to you.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Responses to DrD, Stevie-poo, Share, and Barry
Sure Ann. And perhaps my final comment, why not just stick with what a person says, and thereby stay on same ground. Once you deviate from what a person says, then you open yourself to different interpretations. It seems pretty simple to me. The only reason to change an actual quote would be to try to skew it in some way. And let's be real about it. Legal documents are written in such a way so as to remove any ambiguities. And if someone touts themselves as a high arbiter of truthfulness, then that is what I'd expect. And yes, in case you're wondering, I find Judy to fall well short of that goal both in spirit and practice. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: Come on Steve, at least concede this point. You only look silly not to admit that it follows if someone said they had been psychologically raped by X then it follows that the accuser is saying X is a psychological rapist. To deny this is so makes it appear you either don't know that 1+1=2 or that you have no degree of rational, logical reasoning or that in your efforts to defend someone you are willing to look like a fool. Think about who we are dealing with Ann. Ms. Editor, Ms. Corrector, the person who insists on exactness, but who is willing to (attempt, at least) spin any situation to try to prove a point. Share did not say those words. Judy puts those words in quotes as though she did. To me there is a subtle difference between feeling that one was psychologically raped, and calling someone a psychological rapist Of course your mileage may vary. That is fine. Certainly Judy, (and perhaps this is your take), feels that techincally there is no difference. I just see it differently. Let me just say this, because I am getting mighty tired of this subject, so I say it as a general point; a point I would be making no matter who we were talking about here. There is no leap of faith, there is no reason to bicker over small semantics in this case. It is not a huge stretch, or even a stretch at all, for someone to make the very rational step from saying I felt psychologically raped to saying The person who got into my mind in a way that made me feel psychologically raped is a psychological rapist. Although you wouldn't actually say that because it is a corollary that naturally follows so you would look like a twit actually using a sentence like that which proves redundant. At this point I am through with this subject because not only do I not actually care whether Share or anyone else does what I think she could and probably should do but there has been so much 'press' already on this subject that it is becoming, for me, very tiresome with very little result in the way of admission/apology/personal responsibility taken on the 'rape' statement. Everything but has been spoken about and there has been endless beating around the proverbial bush. The mere fact that you or Share will not take the actual words and just ADMIT what she meant AT THE TIME was exactly what I think (and it appears Judy does as well) she meant means you both think it was a terrible thing to say so you are avoiding it like the plague. Still, we are all free agents here and as of this moment I am officially moving on from the rape subject. That does not mean to say I am moving on from the truth subject as it may or may not rear its beautiful head. On another note, your admission of having gotten the Monsanto subject wrong was a big thing to do in my opinion and although it is a normal thing to be able to admit (I was wrong) it is relatively rare to see it here. Now on that note I am going to sleep. Fun is fun but tomorrow is another day and I am sure we will all have lots of fascinating examples of the human character to analyze and enjoy then. Good night to you.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape
Wowzer. According to the Ravi meter, Xeno nailed it. It is a most reliable guide. The more apoplectic Ravi becomes,the more you can be sure someone has hit the mark. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: OMG - what a fucking idiot you are Xeno. So much analysis, concepts yet ultimately just garbage, totally obscuring the facts, obscuring reality, deceiving yourself. You are the epitome of how one can use logic, analysis yet be far far away from truth. Totally blind to your hypocrisy and bullshit - the fact that it's all platitudes when you confronted with conflict and dishonest behavior yet strong words for Robin, Judy - what gives Guru Xeno? Why is not Robin explained away using the generic concepts of ego, delusion, pure consciousness, CC, UC, GC instead of the malicious falsehoods you spread - invasive, deceptive, trashing, insincere - what gives Guru Xeno? Why is this not your ego, delusion, your assholiness any more? You remind of a retard named tartbrain who used to post here, he was all love-bliss when faced with conflict, dishonesty, deception. May be you are the retarded tartbrain? On Apr 26, 2013, at 11:00 AM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: Psychological rape is a term that does not seem to have much of a fixed professional definition in psychology. It sometimes is applied to parents who drug their children to keep them under control. On a common sense level, the term would seem to imply a kind of invasiveness into one's private space. That private space is the ego, our sense of individuality and self. There are other private spaces, such as the experience that some call transcendental consciousness, which at a certain point in practice, seems deep inside. But this space (TC) has no characteristics other than the sense of wakefulness, so it really does not do anything, or provide one with an individual identity; it has no identity other than bare existence, it is neither private or public, though the experience seems to be restricted to the individual body, which we gather from the experience of coming out of a deep meditation, that that experience occurred somehow in what we are. Share used this term 'psychological rape' in reference to Robin. I take this to mean invasion of that personal space we call the ego, our sense of self as an individual person, or at a minimum, the sense that our human body is a locus or point of focus for experience. The ego is a big problem in spirituality because it is seen as an obstacle to universal experience, it is the process that makes us seem as if we are special in some way. It divides us from everything else. So one way to attempt to get rid of the ego, so we can experience unity (non-division with the world about us) is to try to manipulate it or attack it. But this is the point of maximum resistance. The ego is that in us which wants us as individuals to survive and never die. Subjugating the ego has to be an inside job. It has to be eaten away from inside. This is why meditative techniques may be important because they give our experience a wider dimension than just the ego, they put the ego in a larger space. Because we are not really our ego (so the spiritual talk goes), eventually, if we are lucky, we begin to see that this thing we call our ego, our 'me' is not such a hot thing. The ego cannot really be taken down much until a substantial experience of unity dawns because unity provides a big enough space around ego to manoeuvre it into lesser importance. CC, experiencing yourself as pure consciousness inside, as silence inside while in activity is too small a puddle of spiritual value to kick ego off its perch. We can be ass holes in waking awareness, ass holes in CC, and even ass holes in unity. The ego is the most subtle beast in the field, and given its chance, it can take these spiritual benchmark experiences and subvert their potential to its own machinations. Then you become a spiritual ass hole. Your AssHoliness if you will. I will venture to say no one ever escapes becoming a spiritual ass hole at some point in their journey. Robin's technique was to saddle up to you kind of friendly like, and then attempt to get you to see reality by taking down the ego, by attacking it. And it resists. It does anything to survive. Robin's method, as applied in the past, and seemingly also recently, though he has claimed he is changed, is basically to trash the ego, the individual. I find this strange because of his emphasis on personal ontology. If the ego goes, so does personal ontology. Without the ego, there is no internal 'self' with which to experience the world. Therefore I would conclude that Robin's method is deceptive in that getting to see reality by way of personal ontology is an impossibility. My view is that personal ontology is the main reason, that whatever reality there is that is possible for a human body to experience, that reality is *not* experienced. The
[FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
Ravi, doggonnit, you are not as dumb as I thought. Since you always, pretty much post the same thing, it makes sense to cut and paste as you have been doing. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you be - is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are in? Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my complete attention to it, I promise. Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence - anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give me something Steve baby. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:58 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...wrote: ** Ravi, you're in a league of your own with the reactive, frivolous, stupid posts. But I liked the lawyer bit. I wish you'd stay on that theme a little more. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you be - is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are in? Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my complete attention to it, I promise. Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence - anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give me something Steve baby. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:25 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...: ** You are vomiting Ravi. You might want to try the toilet. They should have a nice one where you work. Or at least tomorrow, if it should come up again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Sorry dear Share we all got distracted by your stalking err searching for Sal. Considering your disability I have made this real easy for you. Please feel free to take the help of the idiots Feste and Steve. Your post referring to my grandmother below has the characteristics of which of the following a) Phony b) Passive-aggressive c) Platitude puking d) Pitta-putrefied e) Paranoid d) My heart says (a) but it's probably (b) g) My intuition says (b) but it's probably (d) h) My gut says (e) but it's probably (a) i) Feste may say sweet but it's (a) j) Steve may say Kali but it's (b) h) Any of the above k) All of the above Remember there's no right or wrong answer and there's good and bad in you and imagine this process to be a kind of a spring cleaning for your chakras which even the likes of John Newton may approve. Love, Ravi On Apr 25, 2013, at 4:54 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: dear Ravi, even before I read this tale of grandsons illustrious and otherwise, I was remembering that sweet sweet photo of you with your Grandmother. See how in tune we are?! Anyway, IMHO what's in that photo is what's really important in life. love, Share From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:59 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL Dear Share, A sincere apology entails honesty, accountability and integrity and you show none of these qualities - all we see is this bait and switch of an impending apology while you continue along your phony, passive-aggressive, platitude-filled posts. You continue this week after week, this bait and switch strategy and I can clearly see this. Year 2043 - you are in ICU, you can't talk but due to the advances made after the hugely popular book of Dr. Curtis M - NDE's - the perspective of the Epistemological Purity of Neuroscience - my grandson who is your attending neurosurgeon, and the only Neurosurgeon to be enlightened, analyzes your brain scans which Steve's grandson converts as posts to FFL. You are already wildly popular as the leading subject of Dr. Curtis M's book, the only person in history who slips into NDE every week. Robin's not alive but his brain scans show he had an ADE(After Death Experience) and is in heaven chilling with Jesus forcing God to get an Internet connection so he has access to Merriam Webster and a decent ability to keep up with Robin. But my super intelligent, enlightened grandson doesn't break the news of Robin's passing away considering your fragile state. Yet week after week your posts still reflect your willingness to reconcile with Robin interspersed
[FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
Emily's post gets an E for effort, but as compared to Xeno's post, I'm afraid it fell well short. I mean it kept going and going, but never really reached the goal in my opinion. On the other hand, your posts always get a B .for boring that is. It is no wonder that you are a frustrated householder. Who could really stand to be around you for any period of time? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Yes, you got it right Steve baby this is how I sometimes choose to respond to attention sluts (thanks Barry baby) who have nothing intelligent, honest, creative to say. Have something intelligent to say - I'm all ears baby. Did you read the post by Emily - beautiful isn't it? No Share Long-ish pathetic, phony, passive-aggressive, pitta-deranged, paranoid, platitude puking there. On Apr 26, 2013, at 4:37 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Ravi, doggonnit, you are not as dumb as I thought. Since you always, pretty much post the same thing, it makes sense to cut and paste as you have been doing. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you be - is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are in? Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my complete attention to it, I promise. Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence - anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give me something Steve baby. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:58 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...: ** Ravi, you're in a league of your own with the reactive, frivolous, stupid posts. But I liked the lawyer bit. I wish you'd stay on that theme a little more. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you be - is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are in? Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my complete attention to it, I promise. Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence - anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give me something Steve baby. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:25 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@: ** You are vomiting Ravi. You might want to try the toilet. They should have a nice one where you work. Or at least tomorrow, if it should come up again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Sorry dear Share we all got distracted by your stalking err searching for Sal. Considering your disability I have made this real easy for you. Please feel free to take the help of the idiots Feste and Steve. Your post referring to my grandmother below has the characteristics of which of the following a) Phony b) Passive-aggressive c) Platitude puking d) Pitta-putrefied e) Paranoid d) My heart says (a) but it's probably (b) g) My intuition says (b) but it's probably (d) h) My gut says (e) but it's probably (a) i) Feste may say sweet but it's (a) j) Steve may say Kali but it's (b) h) Any of the above k) All of the above Remember there's no right or wrong answer and there's good and bad in you and imagine this process to be a kind of a spring cleaning for your chakras which even the likes of John Newton may approve. Love, Ravi On Apr 25, 2013, at 4:54 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: dear Ravi, even before I read this tale of grandsons illustrious and otherwise, I was remembering that sweet sweet photo of you with your Grandmother. See how in tune we are?! Anyway, IMHO what's in that photo is what's really important in life. love, Share From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:59 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL Dear Share, A sincere apology entails honesty, accountability and integrity and you show none of these qualities - all we see is this bait and switch of an impending apology while you continue along your phony, passive-aggressive, platitude-filled posts. You continue this week after week, this bait
[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape
Sheesh, it really got to you didn't it Ravi. We really haven't seen you this discombobulated for some time. Your dull and rusty and butter knife is no match for Xeno's logic. Maybe it's time to concede to a higher power. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: God, the hypocrisy and malice are monumental. Thank you - my feelings exactly. What causes our platitude puking wannabe Guru Xeno so much discomfort or why do his pseudo-Eastern concepts of ego, delusion, pure consciousness break down here? What's obvious is his hypocrisy, maliciousness and his perverse application of his mental constructs to suit his agenda. Considering the fact these very same concepts explain away all the dishonesty, deception of the likes of Share, Curtis and pure paranoid, delusional, malicious rants of Barry. A writer honing his skills? OMG what retarded crap from Xeno. On Apr 26, 2013, at 5:27 PM, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: God, the hypocrisy and malice are monumental.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Responses to DrD, Stevie-poo, Share, and Barry
You don't die from psychological rape. You die from being murdered. There is a difference. Sorry about that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: Come on Steve, at least concede this point. You only look silly not to admit that it follows if someone said they had been psychologically raped by X then it follows that the accuser is saying X is a psychological rapist. To deny this is so makes it appear you either don't know that 1+1=2 or that you have no degree of rational, logical reasoning or that in your efforts to defend someone you are willing to look like a fool. Think about who we are dealing with Ann. Ms. Editor, Ms. Corrector, the person who insists on exactness, but who is willing to (attempt, at least) spin any situation to try to prove a point. Share did not say those words. Judy puts those words in quotes as though she did. To me there is a subtle difference between feeling that one was psychologically raped, and calling someone a psychological rapist That's, um, an idiosyncrasy of yours, Stevie-weevie. A person doesn't get psychologically raped all by themselves. There has to be a person who commits the psychological rape. Is there a subtle difference between saying a person was murdered and calling the person who murdered him a murderer? The quotes around the various versions of the phrase are what is known as scare quotes. Look it up. Especially when the equivalence is coming from the person who screams the loudest when anyone does the same thing to her, placing something in quotes (scare or otherwise) and (in her eyes) WILLFULLY, HARMFULLY, and MALEVOLENTLY making it sound as if she (Judy) said the words in quotes. Yet again, it's fine when she does it, but a terrible crime punishable by The Corrector if anyone else does it. Nice try, Barry, no cigar. Apples and qumquats. You almost always foul up, you know, when you haven't read the thread you're commenting on. Makes you look RELY REEELY STOOOPID.
[FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
Ravi, please try to come with your own insults. I realize yours have become quite stale, but try reaching a little deeper into your playbook for something new. You can do it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: LOL..thank you - you made this real easy for me. Your posts are always rated R for retarded and shameless (attention) sluttiness. Idiot. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:55 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...wrote: ** Emily's post gets an E for effort, but as compared to Xeno's post, I'm afraid it fell well short. I mean it kept going and going, but never really reached the goal in my opinion. On the other hand, your posts always get a B .for boring that is. It is no wonder that you are a frustrated householder. Who could really stand to be around you for any period of time? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Yes, you got it right Steve baby this is how I sometimes choose to respond to attention sluts (thanks Barry baby) who have nothing intelligent, honest, creative to say. Have something intelligent to say - I'm all ears baby. Did you read the post by Emily - beautiful isn't it? No Share Long-ish pathetic, phony, passive-aggressive, pitta-deranged, paranoid, platitude puking there. On Apr 26, 2013, at 4:37 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Ravi, doggonnit, you are not as dumb as I thought. Since you always, pretty much post the same thing, it makes sense to cut and paste as you have been doing. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you be - is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are in? Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my complete attention to it, I promise. Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence - anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give me something Steve baby. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:58 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@: ** Ravi, you're in a league of your own with the reactive, frivolous, stupid posts. But I liked the lawyer bit. I wish you'd stay on that theme a little more. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you be - is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are in? Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my complete attention to it, I promise. Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence - anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give me something Steve baby. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:25 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@: ** You are vomiting Ravi. You might want to try the toilet. They should have a nice one where you work. Or at least tomorrow, if it should come up again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Sorry dear Share we all got distracted by your stalking err searching for Sal. Considering your disability I have made this real easy for you. Please feel free to take the help of the idiots Feste and Steve. Your post referring to my grandmother below has the characteristics of which of the following a) Phony b) Passive-aggressive c) Platitude puking d) Pitta-putrefied e) Paranoid d) My heart says (a) but it's probably (b) g) My intuition says (b) but it's probably (d) h) My gut says (e) but it's probably (a) i) Feste may say sweet but it's (a) j) Steve may say Kali but it's (b) h) Any of the above k) All of the above Remember there's no right or wrong answer and there's good and bad in you and imagine this process to be a kind of a spring cleaning for your chakras which even the likes of John Newton may approve. Love, Ravi On Apr 25, 2013, at 4:54 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: dear Ravi, even before I read this tale of grandsons illustrious and otherwise, I was remembering that sweet sweet photo of you with your Grandmother. See how in tune we
[FairfieldLife] Re: Responses to DrD, Stevie-poo, Share, and Barry
Judy, I get it that subtle distinctions are not your strong point. So, I'm just going to let you reflect on it, and then maybe it'll come to you. Get back to me if you get some inspiration. I'll be rooting for you. (-: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: You don't die from psychological rape. You die from being murdered. There is a difference. Sorry about that. My *God*, you are stupid. Let's say you got mugged. A person doesn't get mugged all by themselves. There has to be a person who commits the mugging. Is there a subtle difference between saying a person was mugged and calling the person who mugged him a mugger? (Thinking time required to adjust for Stevie's stupidity: about 3 seconds.) Is this some ego-deflating spiritual practice our Stevie has undertaken, to repeatedly come up with laughably idiotic remarks to make himself look bad?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Responses to DrD, Stevie-poo, Share, and Barry
No problem Ann. I understand your perspective. What you don't realize, but the rest of world sees, (yes, it is the rest of the world, my dear) is that a number was done on you some 25 or 30 years ago. Remember the end of that time - going to the paper, court actions. It's all on the record. You had control of your senses at that time. Unfortunately you are experiencing a relapse. It's the gravity thing. The only time we don't feel it, is when we are most under its influence. And yes, you are under the influence. I am sorry about that Ann. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: You don't die from psychological rape. Precisely. And your point being? You die from being murdered. Yes indeedy you do. There is a difference. Yes there is. Sorry about that. Don't be sorry about that Steve. Be sorry that you can not be reasonable in this situation though. Be sorry that you are confusing backing up someone you like with enabling questionable behaviour. Be sorry that you can not seem to see this. Be sorry that if you do see this you are not prepared to be honest about it. Be sorry that as you pursue this tack of yours you are looking, well, ridiculous. Be sorry that this direction you are taking is going nowhere and yet you continue to do so. This is entering the theatre of the absurd and you are, evidently, one of the leads. Sorry about that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: Come on Steve, at least concede this point. You only look silly not to admit that it follows if someone said they had been psychologically raped by X then it follows that the accuser is saying X is a psychological rapist. To deny this is so makes it appear you either don't know that 1+1=2 or that you have no degree of rational, logical reasoning or that in your efforts to defend someone you are willing to look like a fool. Think about who we are dealing with Ann. Ms. Editor, Ms. Corrector, the person who insists on exactness, but who is willing to (attempt, at least) spin any situation to try to prove a point. Share did not say those words. Judy puts those words in quotes as though she did. To me there is a subtle difference between feeling that one was psychologically raped, and calling someone a psychological rapist That's, um, an idiosyncrasy of yours, Stevie-weevie. A person doesn't get psychologically raped all by themselves. There has to be a person who commits the psychological rape. Is there a subtle difference between saying a person was murdered and calling the person who murdered him a murderer? The quotes around the various versions of the phrase are what is known as scare quotes. Look it up. Especially when the equivalence is coming from the person who screams the loudest when anyone does the same thing to her, placing something in quotes (scare or otherwise) and (in her eyes) WILLFULLY, HARMFULLY, and MALEVOLENTLY making it sound as if she (Judy) said the words in quotes. Yet again, it's fine when she does it, but a terrible crime punishable by The Corrector if anyone else does it. Nice try, Barry, no cigar. Apples and qumquats. You almost always foul up, you know, when you haven't read the thread you're commenting on. Makes you look RELY REEELY STOOOPID.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Responses to DrD, Stevie-poo, Share, and Barry
Ann, Judy, I get it that subtle distinctions are not your strong point. So, I'm just going to let you reflect on it, and then maybe it'll come to you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Judy, I get it that subtle distinctions are not your strong point. So, I'm just going to let you reflect on it, and then maybe it'll come to you. Get back to me if you get some inspiration. I'll be rooting for you. (-: Dear Steve, I implore you to stop. Stop now. Even though it's too late, you need to get a grip. This is starting to become embarrassing. You are no longer anyone's champion, you are just some guy acting stupid. I would say this even if it was me you thought you were defending. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: You don't die from psychological rape. You die from being murdered. There is a difference. Sorry about that. My *God*, you are stupid. Let's say you got mugged. A person doesn't get mugged all by themselves. There has to be a person who commits the mugging. Is there a subtle difference between saying a person was mugged and calling the person who mugged him a mugger? (Thinking time required to adjust for Stevie's stupidity: about 3 seconds.) Is this some ego-deflating spiritual practice our Stevie has undertaken, to repeatedly come up with laughably idiotic remarks to make himself look bad?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape
Good to know Emily. Always useful to get the definitive word on something. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: Xeno puts out some great posts.  I love reading most of them.  This one wasn't based on any sort of logic that made any sense at all.  Even I, a non-meditating, unenlightened, sometimes slow on the uptake, kinda gal realized this.  From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 8:01 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape  Sheesh, it really got to you didn't it Ravi. We really haven't seen you this discombobulated for some time. Your dull and rusty and butter knife is no match for Xeno's logic. Maybe it's time to concede to a higher power. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: God, the hypocrisy and malice are monumental. Thank you - my feelings exactly. What causes our platitude puking wannabe Guru Xeno so much discomfort or why do his pseudo-Eastern concepts of ego, delusion, pure consciousness break down here? What's obvious is his hypocrisy, maliciousness and his perverse application of his mental constructs to suit his agenda. Considering the fact these very same concepts explain away all the dishonesty, deception of the likes of Share, Curtis and pure paranoid, delusional, malicious rants of Barry. A writer honing his skills? OMG what retarded crap from Xeno. On Apr 26, 2013, at 5:27 PM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: God, the hypocrisy and malice are monumental.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Responses to DrD, Stevie-poo, Share, and Barry
I don't know Emily, but frustration, I would say was a good description of what came through on your posts yesterday. But that is understandable. Returning from time spent for rest and relaxation can often be difficult, so I am understanding. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: Do you think he has some inherent frustration growing about being Share's knight in shining armor? Wait, is that a kind and sensitive thing to say?  I hope so.  (Alex, I have applied to volunteer as Saint FFL - I might need that application back...) From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 9:05 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Responses to DrD, Stevie-poo, Share, and Barry  The strange thing is, Steve *used* to be a relatively nice fella, who would occasionally make at least a quasi- intelligent post, sometimes even a funny one. He was friendly and cheery, rarely attacked anybody, wasn't at all obnoxious. And he was his own person, not a toady. Something has happened or is happening to him, something distinctly ungood. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: Judy, I get it that subtle distinctions are not your strong point. So, I'm just going to let you reflect on it, and then maybe it'll come to you. Get back to me if you get some inspiration. I'll be rooting for you. (-: Dear Steve, I implore you to stop. Stop now. Even though it's too late, you need to get a grip. This is starting to become embarrassing. You are no longer anyone's champion, you are just some guy acting stupid. I would say this even if it was me you thought you were defending. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: You don't die from psychological rape. You die from being murdered. There is a difference. Sorry about that. My *God*, you are stupid. Let's say you got mugged. A person doesn't get mugged all by themselves. There has to be a person who commits the mugging. Is there a subtle difference between saying a person was mugged and calling the person who mugged him a mugger? (Thinking time required to adjust for Stevie's stupidity: about 3 seconds.) Is this some ego-deflating spiritual practice our Stevie has undertaken, to repeatedly come up with laughably idiotic remarks to make himself look bad?
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. I don't apologize to men, most anyway - sorry. But yes - I do bend over backwards to apologize to women, well most anyway. You crack me up Ravi. You fashion yourself as such a champion of women in the virtual world. Too bad it played out so badly in the 3D world. But of course, as you so often say, the fault was all on my ex On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: ** Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay particular attention to that verse and then put forth the gang rape description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have been talking about consensual activities in where the woman was enjoying be attended to down in the pines (and I paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden messages and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume incorrectly what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you - no harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my post back to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - gang rape reminded me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word rape and then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just riffin' - don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my tendency to amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth. But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song and very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation - by you? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. -- *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow agenda. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy but this one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking these questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for even trying to communicate that, viz I have no idea why you write any of this - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy? Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent. Dear Emily - I am so sorry to hear that you were disturbed by the gang rape lyrics. Looking back it was probably not a good idea to post it or I should have cautioned you that the lyrics had references to gang rape - in this day and age one should always be aware that there could be some who would get affected by that, especially victims and family members of victims harmed by sexual violence. But rest assured Emily I had no intentions to PR you, my intentions was just to share some music with a fellow music-lover and in retrospect I should have known that some people may have found it offensive. I hope you are feeling better. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:51 PM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: ** Hmm, as much as Curtis asserts that his goal is to be understood by other people here, it doesn't seem that he is willing to respond to the question Emily asked him: Why did he make a point of calling her attention to a verse about gang rape? Instead he just wipes out her context as if it had never existed. Obviously she found it disturbing. Why wouldn't he respond--unless that's what he wanted, for her to be disturbed? Man, there are very creepy things going on on this forum lately. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues wrote: I have no idea why you would write any of this. I shared music with you that I perform in my show. It has no meaning directed toward you except I thought I was sharing interesting music with another
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
like I said, B for boring. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Honesty is good. But I don't believe in the notions of karma and reincarnation, unless karma meant actions we perform. But even then - I think being in service of truth and being aligned with the existence's will is what works for me - even if that means I am rude and insulting, I have an extremely low tolerance for bullshit, purveyors of bullshit who think they can peddle their bullshit unchallenged. My challenge this lifetime has been to properly channel this anger, it would overwhelm me with confusion, burden, guilt earlier but now I feed off it. I can now precisely target these peddlers of bullshit without letting my anger overwhelm me. Anyway I digress - I don't think you or anyone else will reincarnate - animal or not. I am actually in line with Christianity here - I'm too narcissistic, Ravi has only been created once and will exist for the rest of the eternity, I will not accept anything else unless I can come back as a better me again and I will fight for it tooth and nail :-) But of course there is no proof of reincarnation of individuals, unless reincarnation meant manifestations of consciousness, as in consciouness incarnates again and again which then again implies there will be only one Ravi and Emily - all this is subject to modification though - who fucking knows. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@...wrote: ** I try to be honest Ravi. It's hard here on FFL, but I have my afterlife to consider and I take my karma seriously. I am getting older. I don't want to be reincarnated as a rat. A cat would be O.K. A dog would be fine, with a friendly owner who exercised me and fed me well (I mean how much closer to God might I get?) -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 10:57 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Emily, Emily, Emily - duh - yes, of course you did - it was thumbs up from you, I just reread your post. Very nice - no need for bait-and-switch impending apologies as tools for negotiation and all kinds of phony behavior, no need for the other to even ask for it, no need to dismiss other person's feeling or deny that it even exists. Wow, good - thank you. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@...wrote: ** Ravi, Ravi, Ravi - I already did. Did you not read my post. Maybe I wasn't clear enough. I could try again, if you think it would be helpful. But, we should see if Curtis takes what I said at face value, which is exactly the way it was written and intended for him. I always feel a pang of guilt if I have unintentionally, through my own misinterpretation, offended someone. -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 10:44 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Yaay - of course you will, how stupid of me to not think of that !!! Let's work as a team - Ravi and Emily - The Apologizers So first order of business - How about Curtis - you think we should apologize? For what? I say thumbs down. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@...wrote: ** Well, I will be in charge of apologizing to the men, most anyway, how about that? -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 10:34 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. I don't apologize to men, most anyway - sorry. But yes - I do bend over backwards to apologize to women, well most anyway. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@...wrote: ** Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay particular attention to that verse and then put forth the gang rape description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have been talking about consensual activities in where the woman was enjoying be attended to down in the pines (and I paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden messages and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be understood as well and don't
[FairfieldLife] Re: to Emily bad news about the ego
So true Share. How strange to introduce this notion of emotional rape. I am sorry to say that it was far off the mark. Of course the term, psychological rape, nailed it exactly. Maybe Emily felt that she needed to distinquish herself in someway, by hilighting some new facet to an already overwrought discussion. It was a good attempt, but unfortunately not all attempts work. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLYAs_ucmbs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLYAs_ucmbs --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Emily I've heard that what happens is that the ego gains cosmic status. Of course just knowing that can be a slippery slope for some egos ha ha. As to The Other Matter: I never knew the phrase emotional rape til I read your post last night. I knew no official definitions when I made my accusation to Robin. In a moment of clarity such as prolonged extreme upset can produce, the phrase psychologically raped came to me. By that I meant that Robin attributed thoughts and feelings to me that I wasn't having and he did so uninvited, too forcefully and insidiously. And it was an assault not just on my emotions or feelings, thus your new definition is inadequate. Sorry and welcome back.
[FairfieldLife] Re: to Emily bad news about the ego
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: Dear Share:  First, remember I don't speak your language - think of me as a kid in, oh, 4th grade.  It would be kind of you to speak to me as if explaining all this to a child.  Assume that I have a open inquisitive little face and that my demeanor is nothing but friendly. There is a barrette askew in my hair. I haven't read anything else, but that is really funny. My original question to you was:  Curiously, is TM a technique that professes to address the ego? How? Are there stated goals related to one's ego and the purpose of TM?  Yes, I ask because I don't know. Your answer was:   Emily I've heard that what happens is that the ego gains cosmic status.  Of course just knowing that can be a slippery slope for some egos ha ha. What is cosmic status?  How does the ego gain such a status?  When does the the ego gain such a status?  Why is this a slippery slope for some egos?  From: Share Long sharelong60@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 5:08 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] to Emily bad news about the ego  Emily I've heard that what happens is that the ego gains cosmic status. Of course just knowing that can be a slippery slope for some egos ha ha. As to The Other Matter: I never knew the phrase emotional rape til I read your post last night. I knew no official definitions when I made my accusation to Robin. In a moment of clarity such as prolonged extreme upset can produce, the phrase psychologically raped came to me. By that I meant that Robin attributed thoughts and feelings to me that I wasn't having and he did so uninvited, too forcefully and insidiously. And it was an assault not just on my emotions or feelings, thus your new definition is inadequate. Sorry and welcome back.  Â
[FairfieldLife] Re: Responses to DrD, Stevie-poo, Share, and Barry
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: Steve:  This is the problem with the internet.  You could not see that I was typing away doing a mindfulness technique watching the words that rolled off my fingertips.  Hence, my surprise at the little tangent I took towards Curtis.  Very relaxed.  In no way was I frustrated - now, I was frustrated when I left as my taxes were looming and I had procrastinated on all that all year long.  You know just how to disarm a person! (-: From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 4:45 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Responses to DrD, Stevie-poo, Share, and Barry  I don't know Emily, but frustration, I would say was a good description of what came through on your posts yesterday. But that is understandable. Returning from time spent for rest and relaxation can often be difficult, so I am understanding. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: Do you think he has some inherent frustration growing about being Share's knight in shining armor? Wait, is that a kind and sensitive thing to say? àI hope so. à(Alex, I have applied to volunteer as Saint FFL - I might need that application back...) From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 9:05 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Responses to DrD, Stevie-poo, Share, and Barry àThe strange thing is, Steve *used* to be a relatively nice fella, who would occasionally make at least a quasi- intelligent post, sometimes even a funny one. He was friendly and cheery, rarely attacked anybody, wasn't at all obnoxious. And he was his own person, not a toady. Something has happened or is happening to him, something distinctly ungood. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: Judy, I get it that subtle distinctions are not your strong point. So, I'm just going to let you reflect on it, and then maybe it'll come to you. Get back to me if you get some inspiration. I'll be rooting for you. (-: Dear Steve, I implore you to stop. Stop now. Even though it's too late, you need to get a grip. This is starting to become embarrassing. You are no longer anyone's champion, you are just some guy acting stupid. I would say this even if it was me you thought you were defending. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: You don't die from psychological rape. You die from being murdered. There is a difference. Sorry about that. My *God*, you are stupid. Let's say you got mugged. A person doesn't get mugged all by themselves. There has to be a person who commits the mugging. Is there a subtle difference between saying a person was mugged and calling the person who mugged him a mugger? (Thinking time required to adjust for Stevie's stupidity: about 3 seconds.) Is this some ego-deflating spiritual practice our Stevie has undertaken, to repeatedly come up with laughably idiotic remarks to make himself look bad?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Analysis of Routabout song
Curtis, this is fascinating. Even just this bit I think would be a valuable part of a college curricula on black studies. Or certainly any study of the Blues. And especially how it must be adapted to current sensibilities. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues wrote: I appreciate that Emily as well as your response to Raunchy's post. Great art is provocative and this discussion has deepened my respect for the lyrics. I also think that your mentioning the cultural context IS key to understanding the intent of the author. I run into this decision often in singing songs from a different historical and cultural context. Just last night I sang Robert Johnson's Me and the Devil ( I am going to point our a verse but the content is not being directed toward you!) I love the song because it shows how bold Robert was about the concept of the devil which had many of his contemporaries cowered down in fear. Here it is and you will immediately see the problem for modern audiences: Early this mornin' when you knocked upon my door Early this mornin', ooh when you knocked upon my door And I said, Hello, Satan, I believe it's time to go. Me and the Devil was walkin' side by side Me and the Devil, ooh was walkin' side by side And I'm goin' to beat my woman until I get satisfied She say you don't see why that I will dog her 'round spoken: Now, babe, you know you ain't doin' me right, don'cha She say you don't see why, ooh that I will dog her 'round It must-a be that old evil spirit so deep down in the ground You may bury my body down by the highway side spoken: Baby, I don't care where you bury my body when I'm dead and gone You may bury my body, ooh down by the highway side So my old evil spirit can catch a Greyhound bus and ride For Robert this was a comedic song with the line I'm gunna beat my woman till I get satisfied pulling the biggest laugh from an audience that was more along the lines of Ralph Cramdon making a fist and saying one of these days Alice, straight to the moon. Today this is all over the top creepy, we know too much. But in Robert's day women beating men were also common. (It was a big problem for Charley Patton with Bertha Lee who was considerably bigger and stronger and usually less drunk.) So of course I can't explain all this as the audience turns on me for singing such a lyric so I change it to: I'm gunna do my woman till we both get satisfied to make sure that there is not misunderstanding even adding both. But here is the problem artistically. I wreck the song's comedic intention about the battle of the sexes and turn it into some kind of sexual bravado bragging. It wrecks the meaning of the next verses. She say you don't see why that I will dog her 'round Then he blames it on the devil: It must-a be that old evil spirit so deep down in the ground I can get a laugh out of a modern audience here by saying that he is blaming his bad behavior on the devil but I don't think that worked any better back then as it does today. This restores some of the original snarky intention of the lyrics that I stepped on my making it more politically correct. More trouble in bluesman city: Big fat woman lyrics and the even worse, black skinned woman who shouldn't put a hand on me, while a brown skinned woman is something fit to eat. (Yes shade racism is still common today in the black community.) So I drop all the fat woman references (even though in the songs it is a compliment) and they become a big legged woman, which is more clearly complimentary, and turn the color discrimination into different cities. (A Leland woman, something fit to eat, but you Memphis women,don't put your hands on me.) It still retains some of the character of the original with the benefit of not having Sam Adams bottles bounced off my head. (I play in yuppie joints.) It is all part of trying to be socially conscious while trying to preserve this poetry. Most of these lines are a distraction to the song's more general meanings, so I don't want the audience's focus by reaction to keep them from appreciating the music. And then there is all the sex stuff where metaphors are not metaphorical enough that I have to shift for the schools shows. You can squeeze my lemon till the juice runs down my leg rarely makes it into any show before midnight after the booze has flowed freely. It is too much for even most adult audiences. It is a constant process of decisions that makes playing this music today very challenging but interesting. Thanks for the rap. Oh yeah, the master: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7ZzfjRzZuk --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Dear Curtis, thank you so much for this. Â Part of me was thinking that given the time frame and aesthetics and lyrics and subject of the whole song - i.e. gang rape (such a callous and violent act) couldn't have been what was intended by the writer
[FairfieldLife] Re: Analysis of Routabout song
Emily, I want you to know that I got a lot of pleasure out of that George Jones video you posted yesterday. There were so many nuances about it that I enjoyed. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: Excellent Curtis.  Really interesting.  I had no idea the considerations that go into what you do and how you look at the lyrics, etc. and who your audience is.  I'm not a musician.  Re: the rest of it...we're clear.  I sent you my angst about the term gang rape and yes, I was trying to do it in a riff.  (I didn't pull out the FOAD acronym - imagine the Fuck you, man, fuck you delivered by a comedian onstage). Yes, I pulled the lyrics and posted them because I was confused as to your point to me that day. But, I'm glad I did, because the higher energy/spirit of the music ultimately triumphed over potential hurt feelings on my part.  You made amends in my mind, through acknowledging your use of that term and going to the effort to post an analysis of the song and then another, the one below. These songs are great in one way because they reflect the reality of the day, the relationship issues that existed, attitudes, feelings, etc.  in the black culture.  Not all positive, that is for sure.  But, often respectful, in a way, because women are recognized as a force of nature in their culture/community.  Look that the relationship of the black man to his mama still - not that it's always healthy, but it ain't no joke.   Gotta go for the day.  Speaking of women, love this one.  I'm smiling.  Ha.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7MhGtJTXjg From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 9:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Analysis of Routabout song  I appreciate that Emily as well as your response to Raunchy's post. Great art is provocative and this discussion has deepened my respect for the lyrics. I also think that your mentioning the cultural context IS key to understanding the intent of the author. I run into this decision often in singing songs from a different historical and cultural context. Just last night I sang Robert Johnson's Me and the Devil ( I am going to point our a verse but the content is not being directed toward you!) I love the song because it shows how bold Robert was about the concept of the devil which had many of his contemporaries cowered down in fear. Here it is and you will immediately see the problem for modern audiences: Early this mornin' when you knocked upon my door Early this mornin', ooh when you knocked upon my door And I said, Hello, Satan, I believe it's time to go. Me and the Devil was walkin' side by side Me and the Devil, ooh was walkin' side by side And I'm goin' to beat my woman until I get satisfied She say you don't see why that I will dog her 'round spoken: Now, babe, you know you ain't doin' me right, don'cha She say you don't see why, ooh that I will dog her 'round It must-a be that old evil spirit so deep down in the ground You may bury my body down by the highway side spoken: Baby, I don't care where you bury my body when I'm dead and gone You may bury my body, ooh down by the highway side So my old evil spirit can catch a Greyhound bus and ride For Robert this was a comedic song with the line I'm gunna beat my woman till I get satisfied pulling the biggest laugh from an audience that was more along the lines of Ralph Cramdon making a fist and saying one of these days Alice, straight to the moon. Today this is all over the top creepy, we know too much. But in Robert's day women beating men were also common. (It was a big problem for Charley Patton with Bertha Lee who was considerably bigger and stronger and usually less drunk.) So of course I can't explain all this as the audience turns on me for singing such a lyric so I change it to: I'm gunna do my woman till we both get satisfied to make sure that there is not misunderstanding even adding both. But here is the problem artistically. I wreck the song's comedic intention about the battle of the sexes and turn it into some kind of sexual bravado bragging. It wrecks the meaning of the next verses. She say you don't see why that I will dog her 'round Then he blames it on the devil: It must-a be that old evil spirit so deep down in the ground I can get a laugh out of a modern audience here by saying that he is blaming his bad behavior on the devil but I don't think that worked any better back then as it does today. This restores some of the original snarky intention of the lyrics that I stepped on my making it more politically correct. More trouble in bluesman city: Big fat woman lyrics and the even worse, black skinned woman who shouldn't put a hand on me, while a brown skinned woman is something fit to eat. (Yes shade racism is still common today in the black community.) So
[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape is impossible on FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Doc, cringing at being likened to a clam, I'm gonna use part of Xeno's analogy. Now imagine our little clam not only having an evasively prodding starfish to contend with, but also a big crab with sharp claws and a bunch of slithery stingrays jabbing at her with their acidy tendrils. No wonder she blew a gasket and dropped a bomb on all of them! Psychologically raped! Then a wonderful pod of dolphins arrived and told our little clam that her bomb was on target. I think that Doc may miss that for the most part we try to be conjenial here, we try to keep an open mind, we like to give others the benefit of the doubt. And then if it happens that someone who appears to be on the up and up, turns out not to be, we may feel, well, it may feel like, I mean someone might describe it as being psychlogically raped Seems pretty straightforward to me, and hey, it's not the horrific term that some are trying to make it out to be. It could just be an excuse to go after someone for other reasons.    The evasively prodding starfish has disappeared. Nonetheless the big crab with sharp claws and slithery stingrays with acidy tendrils are still jabbing away at our little clam who has by now both toughened up and lightened up. Stay tuned (-: feste, I think you're right. But I'm an idiot and continue to engage. Though I think I'm more discerning about it now. Thank you for your encouragement. Emily, I think Robin's prodding at my philosophy is more a mental prodding than an emotional one but both kinds have occurred IMO. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:03 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape is impossible on FFL  Hi Share, I have been reading through all these messages over this original expression of yours. I honestly do not see how it is possible on a public forum with neither person physically known to the other, with no prior relationship at all, for someone to psychologically ultimately violate another person. If someone addresses you in a way you don't like, then respond by all means, in terms of yourself. No need to place the burden of your feelings on the forum poster. And, again, this is a public Internet forum. As you said yourself, you didn't have a relationship with Robin. Why not say at the time, Hey Robin, you do not have the right to ask me such questions. I am comfortable working on this on my own.? By casting a label of absolute power on him solves nothing. Not only is it not true, it doesn't really establish your boundary of personal power. Forums are very interesting entities, moved by thought power alone, observation and response. Anyone contributing has absolute power over their identity here, including you, and including Robin. There is nothing easier. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Xeno, I've been out of town today.àShopping for my foray into the big city.àThank you for this even though I know you did not write it for me or for my big, fat, stupid ego.àHope you won't gag when I say how healing this is for me to read.àOy, more ego!àWhat you did here, the time and attention you put into it, really feels like a labor of love, love for what is.àI didn't even freak out too much when I read that I did say psychologically raped instead of rape.àBut I remember how I felt, especially at that point in time when ego had been invaded uninvited and pulverized for a few weeks and not only by Robin.àExtremely upset and still reeling from events I'd never experienced before.àSo out popped a phrase that I had not used before nor that was so familiar too me.àBut felt spot on nonetheless.àI'm so grateful that I'm gonna shut up now (-: From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 1:00 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Psychological Rape àPsychological rape is a term that does not seem to have much of a fixed professional definition in psychology. It sometimes is applied to parents who drug their children to keep them under control. On a common sense level, the term would seem to imply a kind of invasiveness into one's private space. That private space is the ego, our sense of individuality and self. There are other private spaces, such as the experience that some call transcendental consciousness, which at a certain point in practice, seems deep inside. But this space (TC) has no characteristics other than the sense of wakefulness, so it really does not do anything, or provide one with an individual identity; it has no identity other than bare existence, it is neither private or public, though the experience seems to be restricted to the individual body, which we gather from the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape
Judy, this is really funny to me, to see, (in your mind) how much lower Share can sink. I mean it was probably six months ago, or maybe a year ago, when she couldn't sink any lower, but each week she seems to plumb those depths, (in your mind, of course) And, although it pains me to say so, it reminds me of someone like Shaun Hannidy, (whenever I catch a tiny piece of his broadcast) when he talks about how really low Obama has sunk this time. Its very unattractive. You do, on occassion find something positive to say about Share. I think you should practice trying to say more positive things about everyone. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: (snip) One day I ate sugar and months later Ann removes the word psychological from the Dreaded Phrase. Oh, yeah, that was what you had a faux freakout about, pretending Ann had done something just *awful*, and I asked if you could sink any lower, as I recall. But you didn't answer, so I guess the answer is yes. Xeno did the same thing in his latest post, as you know. I don't think it was the sugar, BTW.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape is impossible on FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: For a person to express something about how another's post feels to them is one thing. I do it all the time, on here. But to make the other person responsible for such a feeling, is ultimately irresponsible. Do you see it differently? My take is that Share felt that the best description of that interaction with Robin was psychological rape. I don't think she feels she was victimized, any more that I might have felt when Robin played the same number on me. You think you are interacting with someone along more normal paramters, more of a mutual give and take, but Robin brings to the table a different approach. People may feel that it is an awesome approach designed to help them break through some boundries that need to be broken, or people may feel it is an unwarranted intrusion into their personal space. I think it is as simple as that. And if someone wished to describe that intrusion as psychological rape, well then, that is their perogative, and I don't see that it is that big of a deal. But others may feel differently. I think Share reacted well within what would be considered a normal reaction. And if she was knocked off balance for a (very) short time, then that is also understandable and I would say she bounced back pretty quickly and would have been ready to move on if not for.. My apologies, if I have taken any liberties into Share's thought processes.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape is impossible on FFL
Judy, it has been some time since I read the interaction. I am basing my interpretation on what I know about Share. And, of course, I see things differently than you do. I allow more leeway in people's reactions, and in peoples motivations than perhaps you do. Share's reaction makes sense to me, and it does not to you. Why it makes sense to me and does not to you is something that has been played and over played (IMO) out over the past week or so, and several times over the past few months. Perhaps you will give me a pass on revisiting it again . And if not, that's okay too. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: My take is that Share felt that the best description of that interaction with Robin was psychological rape. Just out of curiosity, did you read the interaction? If so, how long ago, would you guess? And you're aware by now, I'm sure, that her initial reaction to the interaction was that she was feeling a little grumpy from eating too much sugar, no problemo. And she apologized. Unless she was lying, of course. And boy, if she really had just experienced herself to have been psychologically raped, what a cool customer to apologize to her rapist for being grumpy, and then continue the lighthearted conversation as if nothing had happened.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Doc, cringing at being likened to a clam, I'm gonna use part of Xeno's analogy anyway. Now imagine our little clam not only having an evasively prodding starfish to contend with, but also a big crab with sharp claws and a bunch of slithery stingrays jabbing at her with their acidy tendrils. No wonder she blew a gasket and dropped a bomb on all of them! Psychologically raped! Then a wonderful pod of dolphins arrived and told our little clam that her bomb was on target. I was not imagining you as a clam, specifically. I was imagining anyone in Robin's grip as a clam, including myself. It was a generalised analogy about how it feels to be faced with no escape. When a clam is attacked, it clams up. When no threat, it can open up. This is why techniques such as meditation, contemplation, and questioning everything tend to be more effective in the long run, than having one's stuff ripped open forcefully. When the time is ripe, one's dark stuff will flow like blood in a massacre unaided by any external prod. So simple and clear. Putting a template that this is perspective from CC, and therefore lacking in some way, seems strange to me, at the least.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog wrote: No escape from Robin's grip? Really? Did Robin's rip open your stuff forcefully? Did he cause your dark stuff to flow like blood in a massacre before it was ripe? What the hell are you talking about? Repeat after me: I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks with me unless I allow it. Your natural resting position as a clam, may be closed. For others the resting point may be open, which means that something you thought might be nourishment can get in a little more easily. Then it may turn out to be something else. And this statement here: I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks with me unless I allow it. If you are somehow referring to Share, then I think she lives this as well as anyone. I think her term psychological rape has been blown totally out of proportion. I don't see her letting anyone mess with her. I think what you may be saying, that as a clam, (if we wish to use that analogy), her natural position is open, perhaps even more than most. And there is nothing wrong with that, as far as I can see except that you might on occassion be misunderstood.
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Hey Steve baby - newsflash - you only know me virtually. If reality - virtual and/or 3D - can match your fantasy. I never said all the fault was my ex, just that I could identify and work on my faults and she remains as stunted as she was, nor do I claim I am a champion of women - it's just a fantasy of yours. I am just expressing my love for women, just because I say my ex is stunted doesn't invalidate my love for women, I still love my ex too - just that I will never live with her again or support her delusions. Ravi, I'm afraid it is your revisionist posts that are always the fantasy. This is well documented. But I get it that it makes you feel better when you after the fact can claim that none of it is what you meant to say, and that this is the way it is. The problem is, that no one believes it, even when you scream it repeatedly. Anyway you already know I don't treat any man as my equal (well except for one) - so my friends are all women, if you can get at least one of them to say that Ravi is the not one of the most loving and empathetic I will concede defeat. In fact just last week one of them, a therapist mind you - asked me how I learnt empathy, that she had to train herself to learn empathy and that she almost knew no man who was as empathetic as me, I said courtesy of my life, especially with my ex - I was put on fast track to learn and express empathy. This may surprise you - I tell people my ex was my Guru - of course that still puts her in a very bad light. Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you some relief. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: ** Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay particular attention to that verse and then put forth the gang rape description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have been talking about consensual activities in where the woman was enjoying be attended to down in the pines (and I paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden messages and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume incorrectly what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you - no harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my post back to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - gang rape reminded me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word rape and then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just riffin' - don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my tendency to amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth. But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song and very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation - by you? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. -- *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow agenda. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy but this one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking these questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for even trying to communicate that, viz I have no idea why you write any of this - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy? Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent. Dear Emily - I am so sorry to hear that you were disturbed by the gang rape lyrics. Looking back it was probably not a good idea to post it or I should have cautioned you that the lyrics had references to gang rape - in this
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Hey Steve baby - newsflash - you only know me virtually. If reality - virtual and/or 3D - can match your fantasy. I never said all the fault was my ex, just that I could identify and work on my faults and she remains as stunted as she was, nor do I claim I am a champion of women - it's just a fantasy of yours. I am just expressing my love for women, just because I say my ex is stunted doesn't invalidate my love for women, I still love my ex too - just that I will never live with her again or support her delusions. Anyway you already know I don't treat any man as my equal (well except for one) - so my friends are all women, if you can get at least one of them to say that Ravi is the not one of the most loving and empathetic I will concede defeat. In fact just last week one of them, a therapist mind you - asked me how I learnt empathy, that she had to train herself to learn empathy and that she almost knew no man who was as empathetic as me, I said courtesy of my life, especially with my ex - I was put on fast track to learn and express empathy. This may surprise you - I tell people my ex was my Guru - of course that still puts her in a very bad light. Did you happen to tell her about your post to Raunchy about the seven different ways she may want to perform oral sex? Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you some relief. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: ** Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay particular attention to that verse and then put forth the gang rape description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have been talking about consensual activities in where the woman was enjoying be attended to down in the pines (and I paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden messages and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume incorrectly what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you - no harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my post back to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - gang rape reminded me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word rape and then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just riffin' - don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my tendency to amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth. But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song and very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation - by you? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. -- *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow agenda. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy but this one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking these questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for even trying to communicate that, viz I have no idea why you write any of this - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy? Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent. Dear Emily - I am so sorry to hear that you were disturbed by the gang rape lyrics. Looking back it was probably not a good idea to post it or I should have cautioned you that the lyrics had references to gang rape - in this day and age one should always be aware that there could be some who would get affected by that, especially victims and family members of victims harmed by sexual violence. But rest assured Emily I had
[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape
Sounds good to me. I'll take a Raunchy poem, or ditty anytime. Even a raunchy one. (-: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog wrote: No escape from Robin's grip? Really? Did Robin's rip open your stuff forcefully? Did he cause your dark stuff to flow like blood in a massacre before it was ripe? What the hell are you talking about? Repeat after me: I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks with me unless I allow it. Your natural resting position as a clam, may be closed. For others the resting point may be open, which means that something you thought might be nourishment can get in a little more easily. Then it may turn out to be something else. And this statement here: I am the master of my destiny. Nobody fucks with me unless I allow it. If you are somehow referring to Share, then I think she lives this as well as anyone. I think her term psychological rape has been blown totally out of proportion. I don't see her letting anyone mess with her. I think what you may be saying, that as a clam, (if we wish to use that analogy), her natural position is open, perhaps even more than most. And there is nothing wrong with that, as far as I can see except that you might on occassion be misunderstood. I was reply to and referring to Zee Know. Geez, talk about misunderstanding. He's the one who started the whole stupid clam analogy and now you're frosting the clam cake. Let this be the last word on clams: The mollusk clam-up ever so comical Embraced by a star fish quite tyrannical But the share of his lunch Was ate by a bunch Of wags making fun of clam's barnacles
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: Of course you didn't owe Steve squat here Ravi. He used something personal in your life, inappropriately, to try and 'get' you even though it has dick all to do with the subject anyone is discussing. It is, in my opinion, a silly person's way to try and prolong an argument. But you rose to the insult and responded with sincerity and gave more to Steve in your answer than he bargained for and it makes him look bad as a result. That is a good way to respond to inappropriate and unjustified attacks even though I don't think your intention with what you wrote above was to do that. More power to you Rav. And what you wrote about your experience with your ex giving you more empathy, her acting, inadvertently, as a sort of guru in your life because you became wise and more feeling in some ways, speaks right into my experience with Robin all those years ago. I became a much better person, more loving, more compassionate, wiser after emerging from the experience (as hard as some of it was) and so Robin was my great 'guru' after all. Ann, I do apologize if facts don't suit your fancy. And I do apologize if Ravi has made an utter fool of himself on many occasions. He even admits so himself. But try not coming off looking like a total hypocrite. We are accountable for what write here. And if we don't wish to be held accountable, well, then, just don't post here. But you just can't have it both ways.
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog wrote: Trolling for a blow job, Steve? Got nothing for you here. Hope you get lucky. You're more obnoxious than getting a case of chiggers. Chiggers try to get under your skin, but at least they have the good sense to eventually die off. Look Raunchy, I know how you feel about that period, and I don't care to dredge it up myself. But if Ravi is going to carry on about how empathetic he is, about how much he loves women, and what an idiot I am to doubt him, then I am going to say something on my behalf. That's how it works here. So maybe on occasion you might want address comments of this nature that you just addressed to me, to Ravi, or even Judy.
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: If you care to rewrite this it might make a modicum of sense. As it stands right now I can't make heads or tails of it as it either relates to me or what is going on re: what you and I and Ravi just posted. All you are doing is reacting blindly and nothing of what you say is either clear or relevant. It is not that I don't want to understand what you just wrote it is that I simply CAN'T figure it out. That is usually the result when someone writes something in a knee jerk fashion while foaming at the mouth. Hey, you know what? Don't even worry about it. Ain't no big deal.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: Sure you do, otherwise why all this posturing on your part? If you don't see her letting anyone mess with her why all this fuss from your side? And then how could she have possibly been psychologically raped? Riddle me that one Stevie. Oops too late. Here how it works Ann. Fuck me once, shame on you. Fuck me twice, shame on me. Is that clear enough? On second thought, don't.
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Steve - you apparently have a very hard time admitting defeat - you have to keep your obnoxious, moronic troll going. Newsflash - you can be empathetic and loving to women and also request for blowjobs from women, uh, wasn't a request Ravi. More a demand IIRC. Why don't you bring it up again so we can clarify it, since it still seems pretty important to you. clearly you are not having much luck in this area and expressing your frustration. You have tried many times to bring up references to the incident between raunchy and me but sorry it's not going to work since raunchy will not play along with you. Your retarded brain will not understand the entire context of that incident and I sincerely apologized to raunchy and it was accepted by her. That's your usual fallback for some of your abysmal behaviors. We saw it again today. I love her and she I believe does too, if she were to meet me in real life she would be convinced as to my sincerity and honesty. You may want to direct your attention to Curtis who is really going paranoid defending gang-rape and derogatory references to women. Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you some relief. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: ** Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay particular attention to that verse and then put forth the gang rape description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have been talking about consensual activities in where the woman was enjoying be attended to down in the pines (and I paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden messages and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume incorrectly what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you - no harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my post back to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - gang rape reminded me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word rape and then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just riffin' - don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my tendency to amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth. But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song and very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation - by you? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. -- *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you are getting a person Judy does not like and winning her approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow agenda. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy but this one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking these questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for even trying to communicate that, viz I have no idea why you write any of this - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy? Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent. Dear Emily - I am so sorry to hear that you were disturbed by the gang rape lyrics. Looking back it was probably not a good idea to post it or I should have cautioned you that the lyrics had references to gang rape - in this day and age one should always be aware that there could be some who would get affected by that, especially victims and family members of
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Thank you dear Ann - yes you are absolutely right, she indeed , inadvertently became my Guru. In fact even though I spent a lot of time in Amma's cult I never formed any delusional fantasies on Amma as the Guru or the divine Mother. My crime, apparently was that I wanted to love my ex and was willing to do anything to understand her, to change myself so she could understand my love for her Now, was that before, or after you made her declare five times that you were to be her guru? - which turned out to be a futile exercise - in terms of making her understand but a tremendous transformation in her. As I was telling my friend - 10 years after my marriage one day I realized I was a dramatically different person yet she remained as stunted as she was if not worse. It's a funny comparison with whole of Amma's cult - here everyone's trapped in a religious, delusional fantasy around her as the Guru, as the divine Mother and there I was, just trying to love my ex. I transcended whereas they all remain stunted. How ironical? Steve doesn't spend any effort and intelligence understanding the entire context of any given situation - his posts are just careless, reactive, frivolous posts and now he has really turned into an obnoxious,moronic troll. He always latches on to my posts, there's nothing much I can do make him stop acting like, as Barry would say, an attention vampire. He has gotten worse since he latched on to that phony, passive-aggressive Share and now he has to defend at her any cost - even if comes at the expense of his intelligence and integrity. Contrast his behavior with women here who unlike Share are mature, intelligent and strong. On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 4:50 AM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. I don't apologize to men, most anyway - sorry. But yes - I do bend over backwards to apologize to women, well most anyway. You crack me up Ravi. You fashion yourself as such a champion of women in the virtual world. Too bad it played out so badly in the 3D world. But of course, as you so often say, the fault was all on my ex Hey Steve baby - newsflash - you only know me virtually. If reality - virtual and/or 3D - can match your fantasy. I never said all the fault was my ex, just that I could identify and work on my faults and she remains as stunted as she was, nor do I claim I am a champion of women - it's just a fantasy of yours. I am just expressing my love for women, just because I say my ex is stunted doesn't invalidate my love for women, I still love my ex too - just that I will never live with her again or support her delusions. Anyway you already know I don't treat any man as my equal (well except for one) - so my friends are all women, if you can get at least one of them to say that Ravi is the not one of the most loving and empathetic I will concede defeat. In fact just last week one of them, a therapist mind you - asked me how I learnt empathy, that she had to train herself to learn empathy and that she almost knew no man who was as empathetic as me, I said courtesy of my life, especially with my ex - I was put on fast track to learn and express empathy. This may surprise you - I tell people my ex was my Guru - of course that still puts her in a very bad light. Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you some relief. Of course you didn't owe Steve squat here Ravi. He used something personal in your life, inappropriately, to try and 'get' you even though it has dick all to do with the subject anyone is discussing. It is, in my opinion, a silly person's way to try and prolong an argument. But you rose to the insult and responded with sincerity and gave more to Steve in your answer than he bargained for and it makes him look bad as a result. That is a good way to respond to inappropriate and unjustified attacks even though I don't think your intention with what you wrote above was to do that. More power to you Rav. And what you wrote about your experience with your ex giving you more empathy, her acting, inadvertently, as a sort of guru in your life because you became wise and more feeling in some ways, speaks right into my experience with Robin all those years ago. I became a much better person, more loving, more compassionate, wiser after emerging from the experience (as hard as some of it was) and so Robin was my great 'guru' after all. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn
[FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
Once again the Ravimeter indicates when a direct hit has been scored. But who knew that it would be proven so fast. Share: PS2 Another sign IMHO of Fundamentalist TBs is that they are mostly unable to laugh at themselves. And if they're not having fun, they don't want anyone else to have fun either! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Oh what took so you so long dear Share - how pathetic, phony your laugh is - this is the only way you can handle the dissonance of your behavior and your perceived image of yours. Once again - considering your disabilities, making it super-easy for you. This response of yours displays which of the characteristics of the 5P's of the pristine, pure, Purtian philosophy of The Share Long Paradigm (SLP)? 1) Phony 2) Passive-aggressive 3) Paranoid 4) Pitta-derangement 5) Platitude-puke Love, Ravi On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: ** Ok, I admit it! I admit it! I laughed at this, at all those p words. Keep up the good work ranting, raving, roaring, rambunctious, raucus, riddled and rapaciously ravenous Ravi! PS I only added rapaciously because Ravi once expressed disappointment that I've never accused him of psychological rape and what the heck, rapaciously kind of sounds like the R word. PS2 Another sign IMHO of Fundamentalist TBs is that they are mostly unable to laugh at themselves. And if they're not having fun, they don't want anyone else to have fun either! -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 7:10 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL Yes, you got it right Steve baby this is how I sometimes choose to respond to attention sluts (thanks Barry baby) who have nothing intelligent, honest, creative to say. Have something intelligent to say - I'm all ears baby. Did you read the post by Emily - beautiful isn't it? No Share Long-ish pathetic, phony, passive-aggressive, pitta-deranged, paranoid, platitude puking there. On Apr 26, 2013, at 4:37 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Ravi, doggonnit, you are not as dumb as I thought. Since you always, pretty much post the same thing, it makes sense to cut and paste as you have been doing. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you be - is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are in? Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my complete attention to it, I promise. Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence - anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give me something Steve baby. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:58 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...: ** Ravi, you're in a league of your own with the reactive, frivolous, stupid posts. But I liked the lawyer bit. I wish you'd stay on that theme a little more. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you be - is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are in? Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my complete attention to it, I promise. Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence - anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give me something Steve baby. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:25 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@: ** You are vomiting Ravi. You might want to try the toilet. They should have a nice one where you work. Or at least tomorrow, if it should come up again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Sorry dear Share we all got distracted by your stalking err searching for Sal. Considering your disability I have made this real easy for you. Please feel free to take the help of the idiots Feste and Steve. Your post referring to my grandmother below has the characteristics of which of the following a) Phony b) Passive-aggressive c) Platitude puking d) Pitta-putrefied e) Paranoid d) My heart says (a) but it's probably (b) g) My intuition says (b) but it's probably (d) h) My gut says (e) but it's probably (a) i) Feste
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
I believe the phrase you are looking for to describe your response to this and the previous posts I made regarding your behavior is, No Contest It's all good Rav. It's all good. We're all bozos on the bus. Someone is sure to befriend you and lead you in good directions. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you be - is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are in? Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my complete attention to it, I promise. Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence - anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give me something Steve baby. On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 1:28 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Steve - you apparently have a very hard time admitting defeat - you have to keep your obnoxious, moronic troll going. Newsflash - you can be empathetic and loving to women and also request for blowjobs from women, uh, wasn't a request Ravi. More a demand IIRC. Why don't you bring it up again so we can clarify it, since it still seems pretty important to you. clearly you are not having much luck in this area and expressing your frustration. You have tried many times to bring up references to the incident between raunchy and me but sorry it's not going to work since raunchy will not play along with you. Your retarded brain will not understand the entire context of that incident and I sincerely apologized to raunchy and it was accepted by her. That's your usual fallback for some of your abysmal behaviors. We saw it again today. I love her and she I believe does too, if she were to meet me in real life she would be convinced as to my sincerity and honesty. You may want to direct your attention to Curtis who is really going paranoid defending gang-rape and derogatory references to women. Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you some relief. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@wrote: ** Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay particular attention to that verse and then put forth the gang rape description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to showing it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have been talking about consensual activities in where the woman was enjoying be attended to down in the pines (and I paraphrase), which is a humorous and more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden messages and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume incorrectly what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you - no harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my post back to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - gang rape reminded me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word rape and then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just riffin' - don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my tendency to amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth. But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song and very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation - by you? Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. -- *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and your posting intentions are unfriendly. You think you
[FairfieldLife] Re: Psychological Rape
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: Are you okay Steve? This post is even less clear than the last one you sent me. I seriously don't get it at all, sorry. Hey Ann, don't even worry about. Carry on.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Analysis of Routabout song
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: snip Curtis baby - I'm at peace with my mind's judgement biases i.e my inner racism, it doesn't prevent me from calling it as I see it nor meeting people I judge with empathy. I don't cloak my burdens and guilt into self-righteousness while promoting an ol' boy, White Mid-Western clique. A step in the right direction. Kudos to you Ravi for admitting your biases. It doesn't sound like we're going to hear from Judy on the subject. And they may be just as well, considering whatever it was she was trying to say regarding the challenge to her honesty. That was a remarkable post Curtis.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Analysis of Routabout song
plenty of biases Ravi. We all do what you describe below to a greater or lesser extent. I don't see any need to make heavy weather about it. Aside from taking common sense steps for personal, family, and business safety, what I have discovered as a technique of spiritual growth is to suspend judgment about many things. In that way my mind stays open, and I become aware of some deeper mechanics at work in a given situation or snapshot of life. If that sounds too vague, I am sorry, and it is not entirely clear to me either. Although I have not read the Carlos Castenadas books for some time, I think it may be something he also alludes to. Sort of like looking at something not straight one, but in a more peripheral way. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 6:54 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: snip Curtis baby - I'm at peace with my mind's judgement biases i.e my inner racism, it doesn't prevent me from calling it as I see it nor meeting people I judge with empathy. I don't cloak my burdens and guilt into self-righteousness while promoting an ol' boy, White Mid-Western clique. A step in the right direction. Kudos to you Ravi for admitting your biases. Yeah Steve bay - you got any biases, judgment of your own to share? If my mind analyzes data and lets me know that I may be robbed or get harmed if I go a certain part of the city - what do I do with it. My mind is very logical, analytical and presents the data in a clear fashion. So what do I do with it - with the complex feelings - the burden, guilt of such information? Surely the human mind is a beautiful creation. Do I let myself frozen, cloak myself with self-righteousness - is it possible for me retain this, accept this and still meet with a person with love and empathy? Is there a difference between me and the self-righteous liberals who wrap themselves in their self-righteousness and use every situation to stamp others as racists? Or do I end up as a conservative who just wallow in their overt racism and hatred? Is such a state possible - to be accepting of myself, my mind's judgement, biases, fears, anxieties yet to be alive, open, receptive, loving and empathetic? Is it something your mind can wrap around - the complexities of it? It doesn't sound like we're going to hear from Judy on the subject. And they may be just as well, considering whatever it was she was trying to say regarding the challenge to her honesty. That was a remarkable post Curtis.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Analysis of Routabout song
We've been here many times before. After all the bombasity that Ravi thinks is going to throw you, or whoever he's jousting with, off course, it usually comes down to a simple question, which he is never able to answer. Or at least not answer without some remarkable revisionist spin. I guess, the best he's come up with this time, is that he's the pentultimate liberal, not afraid to admit that he is bigot, but willing to still love those he is predjudiced against. And Christ, it seems to have brought Raunchy to tears. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues wrote: So did you intend it to be a stand up joke routine or not Ravi, simple question. Name calling is not an answer or an effective cover up. You made the absurd claim, now which is it? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Well congratulations - it's official Curtis - you are genuinely, innocently, honestly retarded. LOL. Your primary defensive, offensive mechanism is your self-righteous spin which constantly protects your self-interest. You will not hesitate to pummel, pulverize, petrify truth with your malicious, devious self-righteous spin in your relentless defense of your perceived image, your self-interest and your POV. Bravo !!! On Apr 29, 2013, at 10:37 AM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Curtis - Now that I'm done expressing myself on this topic why don't you reiterate your demand to Judy, raunchy and Ann to challenge me here. It wasn't a demand, it was an invitation. Predictably it was not taken. Unlike you and Barry I would love to be challenged and corrected, though I may be running out of posts and have to get to it next week. Well I haven't noticed that about you Ravi, you seem to fly off the handle pretty easily and start throwing the contents of your diaper. But you are in a protected class with them so you have nothing to worry about. (Hey what about those blacks, wink, wink.) Remember my other point which you ignore in your self-righteous spin - why are my posts not stand up routines and not fall under artists's freedom to be provocative and indulge in overt misogyny and racism if need be. Because you set it up carefully as being serious. Are you claiming now that you were joking and doing schtick on Republican assholes who share the views in your overgeneralized statement? Humor that makes fun of racists is really hard to do, it requires a context to make sure the audience is in on the joke. You didn't set it up that way. Here is your stand-up routine as you presented it: Dear Emily - I love black culture, black people for their heart-centeredness - heck I loved 2Pac's dear mama, but since I don't suffer from any White guilt and burden, nor I am I trying to spin it for a yuppie audience I will say that most of the culture is very crude, misogynistic. Who doesn't love their mom's - I am sorry - but is that enough and then you let your partner fend for herself, forcing her to have multiple children for maximum food stamps while your deadbeat ass languishes in jail. It's terribly hard to be a black woman. Fine to be sexist, misogynistic as an artistic expression in music, movie for entertainment but surely not a prescription for a modern, liberal, sophisticated society. So who else believes that Ravi was doing schtick on racist viewpoints, making fun of THEM? Was the biggest laugh line supposed to be: I will say that most of the culture is very crude, misogynistic. Let's see the honesty committee spin this one. On Apr 29, 2013, at 9:16 AM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: And I don't care if you call me a racist, I myself mock at my inner racist every day, laugh and mock my own mind's biases. Conservatives wallow in their racism, liberal strive to rise above their inner racism to meet others with compassion. Scream loud as you want at others being racist - I'm just going to laugh at your ignorant, sorry ass but when I meet you I will as always, despite my contempt and disgust, rise above my judgement to meet you with love. On Apr 29, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Curtis baby, Let me get this straight again. I totally understand your ignorant, self-righteous white-ass's inability to wrap this. I'm an equal opportunity racist - I have my biases, judgements on whites, Indians, Blacks, Hispanics, everyone including myself. I'm totally at peace with that, my senses constantly provide me data on every person - my mind filters through data, goes through set of my conditioning, my experiences and I have some readily available data at my disposal. This happens instantaneously Curtis baby and I understand its limitations. Here's the kicker baby - here's where a person such as you would have trouble
[FairfieldLife] Re: Analysis of Routabout song
Hey Ravi, no worries. Enjoy your imagined win. Just don't examine it too closely. It may not look so pretty close up. http://www.google.com/url?sa=isource=imagescd=cad=rjadocid=cDN2b3zR\ 7uuVZMtbnid=4nzSCOwmS1-WDM:ved=0CAgQjRwwAAurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.beyond\ theveil.net%2Fillusions.htmlei=uDB_UbigHqXiyAH_nIH4CApsig=AFQjCNHM7F9d\ O95kzLkFSTq3AZJouvj-Mwust=1367376440533966 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: No need to get so mad at me Steve and call me names, all you had to say was you don't like Skewered Curtis and we would have not insisted. You can enjoy all the Merde du Mer you want OK? On Apr 29, 2013, at 4:48 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: We've been here many times before. After all the bombasity that Ravi thinks is going to throw you, or whoever he's jousting with, off course, it usually comes down to a simple question, which he is never able to answer. Or at least not answer without some remarkable revisionist spin. I guess, the best he's come up with this time, is that he's the pentultimate liberal, not afraid to admit that he is bigot, but willing to still love those he is predjudiced against. And Christ, it seems to have brought Raunchy to tears. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues wrote: So did you intend it to be a stand up joke routine or not Ravi, simple question. Name calling is not an answer or an effective cover up. You made the absurd claim, now which is it? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Well congratulations - it's official Curtis - you are genuinely, innocently, honestly retarded. LOL. Your primary defensive, offensive mechanism is your self-righteous spin which constantly protects your self-interest. You will not hesitate to pummel, pulverize, petrify truth with your malicious, devious self-righteous spin in your relentless defense of your perceived image, your self-interest and your POV. Bravo !!! On Apr 29, 2013, at 10:37 AM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Curtis - Now that I'm done expressing myself on this topic why don't you reiterate your demand to Judy, raunchy and Ann to challenge me here. It wasn't a demand, it was an invitation. Predictably it was not taken. Unlike you and Barry I would love to be challenged and corrected, though I may be running out of posts and have to get to it next week. Well I haven't noticed that about you Ravi, you seem to fly off the handle pretty easily and start throwing the contents of your diaper. But you are in a protected class with them so you have nothing to worry about. (Hey what about those blacks, wink, wink.) Remember my other point which you ignore in your self-righteous spin - why are my posts not stand up routines and not fall under artists's freedom to be provocative and indulge in overt misogyny and racism if need be. Because you set it up carefully as being serious. Are you claiming now that you were joking and doing schtick on Republican assholes who share the views in your overgeneralized statement? Humor that makes fun of racists is really hard to do, it requires a context to make sure the audience is in on the joke. You didn't set it up that way. Here is your stand-up routine as you presented it: Dear Emily - I love black culture, black people for their heart-centeredness - heck I loved 2Pac's dear mama, but since I don't suffer from any White guilt and burden, nor I am I trying to spin it for a yuppie audience I will say that most of the culture is very crude, misogynistic. Who doesn't love their mom's - I am sorry - but is that enough and then you let your partner fend for herself, forcing her to have multiple children for maximum food stamps while your deadbeat ass languishes in jail. It's terribly hard to be a black woman. Fine to be sexist, misogynistic as an artistic expression in music, movie for entertainment but surely not a prescription for a modern, liberal, sophisticated society. So who else believes that Ravi was doing schtick on racist viewpoints, making fun of THEM? Was the biggest laugh line supposed to be: I will say that most of the culture is very crude, misogynistic. Let's see the honesty committee spin this one. On Apr 29, 2013, at 9:16 AM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: And I don't care if you call me a racist, I myself mock at my inner racist every day, laugh and mock my own mind's biases. Conservatives wallow in their racism, liberal strive to rise above their inner racism to meet others with compassion. Scream loud as you want at others being racist - I'm just going to laugh at your ignorant, sorry ass but when I meet you I will as always, despite my
[FairfieldLife] Re: Menu for Today, Monday, April 29th - FFL Main Dining Room
I didn't pay attention to any of it until now Share. Says a lot I think, of the enlightened --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Doc, I don't think it's right of you to bring turq's mom into this, especially in the way that you do. Really nasty. And the violent image of skewered Curtis, also really nasty IMO. I've removed myself from this menu. Please keep me off of it. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 5:24 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Menu for Today, Monday, April 29th - FFL Main Dining Room  FFL Main Dining Room Menu for Today, April 29th, 2013 *Appetizers* -Dick Mays dry toast, always served room temperature. -MJ's freshly beaten horse meat, prepared to order. -Merde du Mer â A daring appetizer, offered on our public menu for the first time. This exciting creation starts with night soil from the deep; a mixture of fish, mammal, and, yes, human waste, collected diligently by Sous Chef Barry, and his mom, from the crystal clear waters off Port Arthur, Texas. After UV sterilization, the drying process, and a secret mixture of spices, this novel creation is flash cooked in a pizza oven, until crispy. Said Sous Chef Barry, I like to offer people shit, and see if they'll eat it *Soups* -Chef Xeno's renowned Archer-Alexander Clam Chowder (please read ingredients on back of menu). -Extra Cheezy Faux Gazpacho, made with fresh Velveeta, home-made popcorn, Ritz crackers (for that mock apple pie flavor), half a bottle of ketchup, and a dash or three of habanero sauce, then haphazardly stirred over a period of several days â More than a meal in itself. New recipe! From the Kitchens of Doctor Dumbass(R). *Entrees* Skewered Curtis, shish-ka-bobbed beautifully by Chef Ravi, grilled nearly until done, finished in a tart lemon sauce, and topped with an American flag. One of these is enough for any diner. The Wolf Baiter. Don't take this one on, unless you've got plenty of appetite. This 22 ounce favorite begins with deconstructed Filet Mignon and hearty sauces, though never confused in identity or flavor. Delightful finish. Pairs neatly with a dry or semi-sweet wine. ER Diet Plate, a light assortment of sautéed vegetables, served with a thoughtful Chamomile tea. Best enjoyed with Led Zep on the I-Phone. Crop Circlet, by Chef Nablus. When the diner first confronts this dish, he, or she, sees nothing unusual. After a short time however, a lettuce leaf is turned under, there is a nearly undetectable slash through the cherry tomato, the spinach with a pat of butter suddenly takes on the appearance of a green mandala! Be amazed when Nabby plays with your food! Buck's Basic Feed. Experience a meal from the pioneer days, as Chef Buck whips up one of his favorites, Possum Pie, with Fresh Wild Turkey Giblets, smothered in Raw Oats, and save room for the Huckleberry Pie! Kick Ass Kasserole. Chef R. Dog starts things off with a bang, combining 15 different varieties of pepper, an entire bottle of grey goose vodka, reduced over medium heat to a single tablespoon of intense taste, then ladled over a perfectly prepared swordfish steak, sword included. Best enjoyed with balloons and a cocktail or two. *Desserts* Judiliscious Baked Alaska. The size of this treat for the sweet tooth is deceiving. Served in a delicate porcelain cup, some diners simply refuse to finish it â Richness, complexity and above all, endless layers of pastry. *Beverages* -Robin's Milk (yep, we were confused too, until we tried it!). Imported. -Steve-O (bottles only). A favorite for children of all ages! Delicious any time of day. *Music performed in the lounge area by Barry2 and srijau.*
[FairfieldLife] Re: Menu for Today, Monday, April 29th - FFL Main Dining Room
Ravi, The Compassionate Bigot Toast of the town. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Oh God - stop being so paranoid - curious minds wonder - did you have any Share or Share-alike? Oh duh - being paranoid IS one of the 5 P's of The Share Long Paradigm. Or perhaps this is a legitimate case of PR (Psychological rape) on part of Doc? Given how Guru Zee Know has relaxed and reduced the qualifications of PR to historically low levels? Is PR totally in? Is PR a PC term to express our displeasure now? Oh boy - what a quandary. On Apr 29, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Doc, I don't think it's right of you to bring turq's mom into this, especially in the way that you do. Really nasty. And the violent image of skewered Curtis, also really nasty IMO. I've removed myself from this menu. Please keep me off of it. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 5:24 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Menu for Today, Monday, April 29th - FFL Main Dining Room FFL Main Dining Room Menu for Today, April 29th, 2013 *Appetizers* -Dick Mays dry toast, always served room temperature. -MJ's freshly beaten horse meat, prepared to order. -Merde du Mer â A daring appetizer, offered on our public menu for the first time. This exciting creation starts with night soil from the deep; a mixture of fish, mammal, and, yes, human waste, collected diligently by Sous Chef Barry, and his mom, from the crystal clear waters off Port Arthur, Texas. After UV sterilization, the drying process, and a secret mixture of spices, this novel creation is flash cooked in a pizza oven, until crispy. Said Sous Chef Barry, I like to offer people shit, and see if they'll eat it *Soups* -Chef Xeno's renowned Archer-Alexander Clam Chowder (please read ingredients on back of menu). -Extra Cheezy Faux Gazpacho, made with fresh Velveeta, home-made popcorn, Ritz crackers (for that mock apple pie flavor), half a bottle of ketchup, and a dash or three of habanero sauce, then haphazardly stirred over a period of several days â More than a meal in itself. New recipe! From the Kitchens of Doctor Dumbass(R). *Entrees* Skewered Curtis, shish-ka-bobbed beautifully by Chef Ravi, grilled nearly until done, finished in a tart lemon sauce, and topped with an American flag. One of these is enough for any diner. The Wolf Baiter. Don't take this one on, unless you've got plenty of appetite. This 22 ounce favorite begins with deconstructed Filet Mignon and hearty sauces, though never confused in identity or flavor. Delightful finish. Pairs neatly with a dry or semi-sweet wine. ER Diet Plate, a light assortment of sautéed vegetables, served with a thoughtful Chamomile tea. Best enjoyed with Led Zep on the I-Phone. Crop Circlet, by Chef Nablus. When the diner first confronts this dish, he, or she, sees nothing unusual. After a short time however, a lettuce leaf is turned under, there is a nearly undetectable slash through the cherry tomato, the spinach with a pat of butter suddenly takes on the appearance of a green mandala! Be amazed when Nabby plays with your food! Buck's Basic Feed. Experience a meal from the pioneer days, as Chef Buck whips up one of his favorites, Possum Pie, with Fresh Wild Turkey Giblets, smothered in Raw Oats, and save room for the Huckleberry Pie! Kick Ass Kasserole. Chef R. Dog starts things off with a bang, combining 15 different varieties of pepper, an entire bottle of grey goose vodka, reduced over medium heat to a single tablespoon of intense taste, then ladled over a perfectly prepared swordfish steak, sword included. Best enjoyed with balloons and a cocktail or two. *Desserts* Judiliscious Baked Alaska. The size of this treat for the sweet tooth is deceiving. Served in a delicate porcelain cup, some diners simply refuse to finish it â Richness, complexity and above all, endless layers of pastry. *Beverages* -Robin's Milk (yep, we were confused too, until we tried it!). Imported. -Steve-O (bottles only). A favorite for children of all ages! Delicious any time of day. *Music performed in the lounge area by Barry2 and srijau.*
[FairfieldLife] Re: Analysis of Routabout song
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: Chill Steve. Today was made pretty wonderful by the Doc's menu. We're all sitting here having a fine meal and toasting to everyone at FFL. There's still time to come on down and grab a plate. (And by the way, penultimate means second to the last.) Now stop being so grumpy and pull up a chair. Enjoy Ann! Enjoy! Let the revelry continue long into the night! I can't help it if I have a case of indigestion. Weak stomach I guess. P.S. Thanks for the correction. I had it completely wrong.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Menu for Today, Monday, April 29th - FFL Main Dining Room
Is there a custodian in the house, a custodian in the house!? The guest of honor is having another case of diarrhea of the mouth. On the other hand, Its his party and he can barf if he wants to, barf he wants to --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Oh hello Doc and the management - someone's talking shit now, please stick a fucking warning label on the Merde du Mer before Dr. Curtis stamps as this as word-salad and disassociation. Please respond ASAP to Steve, who's clearly had more shit than he could handle !!! On Apr 29, 2013, at 7:55 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Ravi, The Compassionate Bigot Toast of the town. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Oh God - stop being so paranoid - curious minds wonder - did you have any Share or Share-alike? Oh duh - being paranoid IS one of the 5 P's of The Share Long Paradigm. Or perhaps this is a legitimate case of PR (Psychological rape) on part of Doc? Given how Guru Zee Know has relaxed and reduced the qualifications of PR to historically low levels? Is PR totally in? Is PR a PC term to express our displeasure now? Oh boy - what a quandary. On Apr 29, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Doc, I don't think it's right of you to bring turq's mom into this, especially in the way that you do. Really nasty. And the violent image of skewered Curtis, also really nasty IMO. I've removed myself from this menu. Please keep me off of it. From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 5:24 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Menu for Today, Monday, April 29th - FFL Main Dining Room FFL Main Dining Room Menu for Today, April 29th, 2013 *Appetizers* -Dick Mays dry toast, always served room temperature. -MJ's freshly beaten horse meat, prepared to order. -Merde du Mer â⬠A daring appetizer, offered on our public menu for the first time. This exciting creation starts with night soil from the deep; a mixture of fish, mammal, and, yes, human waste, collected diligently by Sous Chef Barry, and his mom, from the crystal clear waters off Port Arthur, Texas. After UV sterilization, the drying process, and a secret mixture of spices, this novel creation is flash cooked in a pizza oven, until crispy. Said Sous Chef Barry, I like to offer people shit, and see if they'll eat it *Soups* -Chef Xeno's renowned Archer-Alexander Clam Chowder (please read ingredients on back of menu). -Extra Cheezy Faux Gazpacho, made with fresh Velveeta, home-made popcorn, Ritz crackers (for that mock apple pie flavor), half a bottle of ketchup, and a dash or three of habanero sauce, then haphazardly stirred over a period of several days â⬠More than a meal in itself. New recipe! From the Kitchens of Doctor Dumbass(R). *Entrees* Skewered Curtis, shish-ka-bobbed beautifully by Chef Ravi, grilled nearly until done, finished in a tart lemon sauce, and topped with an American flag. One of these is enough for any diner. The Wolf Baiter. Don't take this one on, unless you've got plenty of appetite. This 22 ounce favorite begins with deconstructed Filet Mignon and hearty sauces, though never confused in identity or flavor. Delightful finish. Pairs neatly with a dry or semi-sweet wine. ER Diet Plate, a light assortment of sautéed vegetables, served with a thoughtful Chamomile tea. Best enjoyed with Led Zep on the I-Phone. Crop Circlet, by Chef Nablus. When the diner first confronts this dish, he, or she, sees nothing unusual. After a short time however, a lettuce leaf is turned under, there is a nearly undetectable slash through the cherry tomato, the spinach with a pat of butter suddenly takes on the appearance of a green mandala! Be amazed when Nabby plays with your food! Buck's Basic Feed. Experience a meal from the pioneer days, as Chef Buck whips up one of his favorites, Possum Pie, with Fresh Wild Turkey Giblets, smothered in Raw Oats, and save room for the Huckleberry Pie! Kick Ass Kasserole. Chef R. Dog starts things off with a bang, combining 15 different varieties of pepper, an entire bottle of grey goose vodka, reduced over medium heat to a single tablespoon of intense taste, then ladled over a perfectly prepared swordfish steak, sword included. Best enjoyed with balloons and a cocktail or two. *Desserts* Judiliscious Baked Alaska. The size of this treat for the sweet tooth is deceiving. Served in a delicate porcelain cup, some diners simply refuse to finish it â⬠Richness, complexity and above all, endless layers of pastry. *Beverages* -Robin's Milk (yep, we were confused too, until we tried it!). Imported. -Steve-O (bottles only). A favorite for children of all ages! Delicious any time of day. *Music performed in the lounge area by Barry2
[FairfieldLife] Re: Analysis of Routabout song
You are a hoot Ravi. You sure nailed me on my incorrect use of a word. That compassion of yours is just overflowing. Unfortunately you are the one without much of life. You are a star, at least to some in the virtual world, but the real world has come to a different conclusion. And unfortunately your friends here the virtual world likely will always want to keep it that way, virtual. But you do serve a useful purpose for some in the real world and the virtual world. So, some credit for that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Oh you poor, innocent Steve clearly this is an open and shut case of psychological rape on part of Ann. Everyone here at FFL is painfully aware of your, how do I say this in a sensitive, empathic way, yeah of your retardedness - did I not notice your incorrect usage of bombasity as well, I sure did. Did I say anything - no because I know it's not empathetic to correct retards like you. I ignored your message - why couldn't Ann? She is a bully and lacks empathy. You clearly have Guru Xeno's blessings, grace and the strength of his tapas shakti with you to file charges ASAP - 3rd degree Psychological Rape. Not sure if she gets a lifetime suspension i.e. lifetime restriction of 10 posts per week but the judge His Honor Doug B. Hamilton CVIII may at least impose a year. Hey Ann here's a sample response in lieu of your transgressions -- Dear Steve, I had a chance to re-read my message. It was highly inappropriate of me to correct your usage of penultimate, thank you Ravi for pointing out that I missed bombasity. I can see how it can construed as making fun of people with intellectual handicaps such as yourself. I should exercise better judgement especially when Ravi and others have been pointing to the steady decline in your intellectual abilities ever since your started aggressively defending The Share Long Paradigm for the last several weeks. I am really sorry to have caused you pain. Rest assured Steve I was coming from a space of love and respect. On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 7:58 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: Chill Steve. Today was made pretty wonderful by the Doc's menu. We're all sitting here having a fine meal and toasting to everyone at FFL. There's still time to come on down and grab a plate. (And by the way, penultimate means second to the last.) Now stop being so grumpy and pull up a chair. Enjoy Ann! Enjoy! Let the revelry continue long into the night! I can't help it if I have a case of indigestion. Weak stomach I guess. P.S. Thanks for the correction. I had it completely wrong.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Synopsis
Hey, you know it sort of pains me to be negative on my last post of the week. Share, you realize of course that this particular disagreement (with Judy at least) has no end in sight. But having said that, I will let loose of a couple thoughts that have been brewing, deal with the fallout, and then move on (hopefully). Ann, I wanted to commend you on your fine sense of humor. Having Steve, Share and Barry provide the whine for the grand celebration dinner was indeed a humorous barb. Although I must say that I think comedic contributions are your strength. Embracing accountability for what you write, and grasping the difference between ideas and real life, not so much. But you know that I love you. Emily, truly you are a gracious person,and you have always been gracious towards me. I really appreciate that. I may find myself at odds with many of your observations, but I think you are a remarkable woman and you often surprise me. I could listen for a long time to some of your early adventures living as a homeless person and such. Talk about living on the edge. Ravi, as always, you are such a hoot. You remind me nothing so much as a dog that loves to hump whatever leg may be in its vicinity. Someone misuses a word, and you go ahumpin'. Any post from Share or Curtis, or Barry , or, or, or, (fill in the blank, although most every male) and you go ahumpin'. It's always fun to watch, so thank you for that. Judy! Talk about Skewered Curtis! My God, does someone have it backwards! But thank you for your posts, because even if I don't read them the first go around, (which I don't), I certainly always enjoy Curtis' replies. And yes, I concur with Curtis' evaluation that Robin is onboard with that opinion, about who is getting skewered, (and it ain't Curtis). Anyway, my beloved Fairfield Life buddies. Just wanted to give this friendly send off as my last post of the week. I'm off to the hockey game to see if our Blues can notch another win against the Stanley Cup Champions. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: As for my intentions and heart, I'll let my words from Sept 6 and 9 speak for themselves. They already have, unfortunately for you. That Robin then chose to bring our upset back onto FFL still baffles me. It shouldn't have, given that he explained it to you very thoroughly. Tomorrow I'll post what he said. Then I'll post your response, and everyone will see yet another demonstration of how well you deal with reality. That OK with you, Share? Think that'll be fun? Perhaps little fish enjoys, a bit too indulgently, flapping his gills and watching the resultant waves crashing. Or perhaps the piranha likes to project her own unpleasant tendencies on her intended victims. As for Emily's posts, I don't see a lot of heart in them, especially when she wrote within a very belligerent post: you think you have 30 good years left? Think again. You might not have tomorrow... Oh, she's a-comin' to getcha, Share! Lock your door, keep your head down and your cell phone charged so you can call 911 when she shows up. How vicious and violent of her to suggest that you, along with the rest of us, aren't guaranteed another *hour*, let alone 30 years. What we keep forgetting is that nobody on FFL has *legitimate* feelings but Share. And also still mired in Robin Fundamentalism, of course Judy's not buying it. But what she's really afraid to even go into the store about, is the possibility that Robin made mistakes too and was also at fault. Judy has been through that store with a fine-toothed comb and a microscope and has reported the manufacturer of the products on the shelves to the authorities for false advertising and counterfeiting, as well as unsanitary conditions. (You would not believe the *smell* in that store. I think it's from the rotten hypocrisy, although there's so many different kinds of festering toxic waste in there it's hard to tell.) So you've got free shots at me, Share, until tomorrow night. Go to it, snookums. See how much more garbage you can come up with between now and then.
[FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f)
Yea. Ditto on that, Susan. Hey, Share, I took the comment on the frisky fellas in exactly the way you meant it. I am sorry on behalf of Judy and Ann who saw fit to spin that in the worst possible way. I'll apologize for them since they haven't gotten around to do so themselves. Perhaps they will at some point. On the other hand, Gene Menetly, in some way you have done a number on them, or they have ceded their personal power to you. Go easy on them, as you have. And no, it doesn't make sense to me either. But it is kind of fun to watch. Probably many here listen to Public Radio. The other day someone was interviewing Mel Brooks, and many of his off color creations, including Blazing Saddles,and Springtime for Hitler. Part of being human I think is to diffuse horrible situations by finding some side angle to slip in something a little light hearted. Not that was even your attempt. But, balanced individuals will always find a way to appreciate that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Susan, thanks for taking the time to write this and for being so clear and reasonable. Share From: Susan wayback71@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2013 7:17 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f)  Glad you gave the post number. I read it. My take is that Robin started to act as if he is the Authority about you. ON one level it comes across as if he is complimenting you on being real rather than than your usual positive self or your self that is covered by a spiritual belief system. But the other message is that this is an amazing insight he has about you that you really just need to hear, for your own benefit and o the sake of being really honest. If someone had written that to me, I would feel 1) as if a boundary had been crossed and that the subject had suddenly shifted, without my consent or desire, to a discussion about my behaviors 2) that Robin feels he has some sort of enhanced insight into my psyche and 3) that a judgement had been made about how I behave usually. This might be a conversation to have with a therapist or a dear dear friend, but not in an online chat. It smells like what I have hears was the Robin of years ago, trying to dissect people, supposedly for their own benefit, without their permission or asking for that sort of help. Robin did lace his posts with qualifiers (ie maybe he is wrong) but nevertheless he said what he said about you. Whether he meant it or not, it was hurtful, demeaning and offensive. It feels creepy to me. I would back out of the conversation too. I thought you did so rather gracefully. Of course, I am not an expert on Robin or you or your history on FFL, so maybe there is something I am missing. If there is, fine. I am just responding to this post. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Xeno the post # 319335 is when I first got upset with Robin but it contains what had gone before.àShare From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 10:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f) àI couldn't find it. That is the original post from Robin to Share the one '8 weeks before' the one where she mentioned 'psychologically raped'. I did not find a direct reference to the post number or a link to it. It's late, bedtime for me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: Say, Curtis, did you ever read the original post from Robin that Share decided eight weeks later constituted psychological rape? No? What is the number of that post? It's the one I already sent you, Xeno--you know, in the post of mine you didn't read. I've actually reposted it several times recently, complete with link. I'm sure you can find it yourself without too much trouble. And yet you say her characterization was apt-- without ever having read the post it referred to. Yes, Curtis, you *are* done. But you stuck the fork in yourself. Forget about giving us that lecture on integrity, OK? We at least have a pretty good idea what it *isn't*.
[FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f)
Share, thanks for making me smile, and bringing up a pleasant memory. How many times would my dad, being mildly angry, or even a little more than mildly angry come out with, Gene Menetly, why we'd have to get a flat tire!, or Gene Menetly, why'd you have to back into the BBQ grill!. Or now, remembering the whole family piling into the Corvair on a Sunday evening going to Hamburger Haven. Good times! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Thanks Steve. I'm out of some FFL loops these days and I did google on Gene Menetly but no hits. Did I miss something important and or funny? From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2013 10:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f)  Yea.  Ditto on that, Susan.   Hey, Share,  I took the comment on the frisky fellas in exactly the way you meant it.  I am sorry on behalf of Judy and Ann who saw fit to spin that in the worst possible way.  I'll apologize for them since they haven't gotten around to do so themselves.  Perhaps they will at  some point.  On the other hand, Gene Menetly, in some way you have done a number on them, or they have ceded their personal power to you.  Go easy on them, as you have.  And no, it doesn't make sense to me either.  But itis kind of fun to watch. Probably many here listen to Public Radio.  The other day someone was interviewing Mel Brooks, and many of his off color creations, including Blazing Saddles,and Springtime for Hitler.  Part of being human I think is to diffuse horrible situations by finding some side angle to slip in something a little light hearted.  Not that was even your attempt. But, balanced individuals will always find a way to appreciate that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Susan, thanks for taking the time to write this and for being so clear and reasonable.àShare From: Susan wayback71@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2013 7:17 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f) àGlad you gave the post number. I read it. My take is that Robin started to act as if he is the Authority about you. ON one level it comes across as if he is complimenting you on being real rather than than your usual positive self or your self that is covered by a spiritual belief system. But the other message is that this is an amazing insight he has about you that you really just need to hear, for your own benefit and o the sake of being really honest. If someone had written that to me, I would feel 1) as if a boundary had been crossed and that the subject had suddenly shifted, without my consent or desire, to a discussion about my behaviors 2) that Robin feels he has some sort of enhanced insight into my psyche and 3) that a judgement had been made about how I behave usually. This might be a conversation to have with a therapist or a dear dear friend, but not in an online chat. It smells like what I have hears was the Robin of years ago, trying to dissect people, supposedly for their own benefit, without their permission or asking for that sort of help. Robin did lace his posts with qualifiers (ie maybe he is wrong) but nevertheless he said what he said about you. Whether he meant it or not, it was hurtful, demeaning and offensive. It feels creepy to me. I would back out of the conversation too. I thought you did so rather gracefully. Of course, I am not an expert on Robin or you or your history on FFL, so maybe there is something I am missing. If there is, fine. I am just responding to this post. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Xeno the post # 319335 is when I first got upset with Robin but it contains what had gone before.ÃâàShare From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 10:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f) ÃâàI couldn't find it. That is the original post from Robin to Share the one '8 weeks before' the one where she mentioned 'psychologically raped'. I did not find a direct reference to the post number or a link to it. It's late, bedtime for me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: Say, Curtis, did you ever read the original post from Robin that Share decided eight weeks later constituted psychological rape? No? What is the number of that post? It's the one I already sent you, Xeno--you know, in the post of mine you didn't read
[FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: snip ... give me a fucking break. someone. anyone. Ravi, at least you've pinpointed the problem.
[FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f)
Hilarious Jedi. Simply hilarious. This is the way normal people think. Or maybe you might have expected the brouhaha to go away after a couple weeks, or maybe a month, but I think we're going on eight months now with no sign of letting up. I think we've left the arena of discussion and come into the field of pure entertainment! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason wrote: --- Susan wrote: Glad you gave the post number. If I were Judy, All that I would have said, (instread of all that she had said on this topic past one year), with a single post. Hey Share, the term 'psychological rape is too harsh. You could have used a milder word. Please patch up with Robin. Period. End of post. End of topic. --- authfriend authfriend@ wrote: Funny thing, I've reposted it four times in the last week or so: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/342364 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/342376 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/342440 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/342520 But none of Share's supporters appear to have seen it or been able to find it (including Xeno) until Share gave the post number. Isn't that fascinating? Susan, I don't expect you to read what follows, because you're clearly set on supporting Share no matter what, so you don't want to know about anything that might make that support appear to be anything less than utterly reasonable. But I'm posting it for the record anyway. I can't help reading your reaction here as a recap-- perhaps unconsciously--of what you've seen Share and her supporters say. IOW, I doubt you would have had this reaction if you didn't know Share had characterized Robin's comments as some kind of terrible violation. You did read her initial response, right, in which she simply declined to discuss what Robin had said and apologized to him for her grumpiness, which she attributed to having eaten too much sugar? How about Robin's response to that, in which *he* apologized for having made her uncomfortable and essentially took back everything he'd said? Did you read that as well, the part that begins Robin2? And you are aware that this post from Robin was the latest in a long series of extremely warm and friendly exchanges he and Share had been having with each other, right? I mean, you say what Robin wrote sounds like something that would be appropriate for a therapist or a dear, dear friend to say, but that it seems inappropriate for an online chat. For sure, unusual for an online chat, but their conversations had had this unusually intimate quality almost from the beginning, and Share had obviously been enjoying them very much. Hurtful, demeaning and offensive?? Creepy?? That is just mind-boggling to me. It seems to me to reflect a sort of neurotic hyper-super-sensitivity, not a normal adult reaction, to an essentially innocuous--and quite affectionate--comment from Robin, with whom Share had developed a significant degree of mutual fondness over their extended, intimate exchanges of the previous month or two. And it was certainly not Share's reaction at the time. However, all the above turns out to be irrelevant. You noted that Robin had used qualifiers. You are apparently not aware that it was his parenthetical qualifier that he was very likely...wrong that was the basis for Share's decision to suspend communications with him (and ultimately for her psychological rape charge). Not that she had felt invaded and violated by his insight about her, but that he had said his insight was probably wrong. Confused? So was Robin. Again, so it's absolutely clear: Share didn't decide to suspend their communications because of what Robin had told her, but because he'd qualified what he had told her by saying he was probably wrong: Robin, it sounds like you're saying that you sensed you were getting the real me and not my beliefs. But OTOH you were very likely wrong. Given this assessment of me by you, I'd prefer to suspend communication with you. Apologies if I've misunderstood and in that case, I hope we can work things out. She reiterated this in a private email to Robin, which she subsequently posted to FFL: I expressed innocent and real joy at the beautiful Russian flash mob you posted. You replied by saying that you sensed I was being the real Share but that you were probably wrong. This is what hurt me. (Although she had told him in her previous post that she didn't suffer or feel insulted. Nor did I think you were being hurtful or cruel.) When Robin finally figured out that it had been his *qualifier* that Share had found so offensive, he wrote a long post to her explaining that he had included the qualifier to make sure she didn't feel he was imposing anything on her,
[FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Really Steve - am I supposed to be impressed at your juvenile, retarded crap? I really don't know, or care. Or is this to titillate Miss Sadie? I think she prefers gory, macabre humor on rapists and she thinks the problem with rapists is that they have too much sexual energy - perhaps she should send them Valentine's cards. I think most of us have too much sexual energy Ravi. It's just a matter of having a proper outlet. If we don't, we may appear as spastic, spewing nonstop insults, jumping on a perceived offense and trying to make it into a federal case. Sound like anyone you know?
[FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f)
Ravi, Okay, Ravi. I hit this one too close to home. I truly am sorry if Devi is not able to attend to all of your needs. And I should not have brought up the example of your behavior being similar to a dog humping any leg that seems to be around. This is a subject matter I can tell makes you uncomfortable. Let's take a step back. I don't want to make you uncomfortable. Have you ever played Statego? I think I just stumbled upon your flag. Let's just set up the pieces again. K. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: You are too retarded to think straight Steve baby. By referring to rapists as frisky fellers Share's saying the problem with rapists is just some excess sexual energy. Similar to her, oh if only someone sent Hitler a Valentine. This is a pattern of something sick and twisted. Here's your chance to contribute something intelligent and correct my perception of you. Will you or would you just rather hump like a dog - we will see. On May 7, 2013, at 8:04 AM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Yea. Ditto on that, Susan. Hey, Share, I took the comment on the frisky fellas in exactly the way you meant it. I am sorry on behalf of Judy and Ann who saw fit to spin that in the worst possible way. I'll apologize for them since they haven't gotten around to do so themselves. Perhaps they will at some point. On the other hand, Gene Menetly, in some way you have done a number on them, or they have ceded their personal power to you. Go easy on them, as you have. And no, it doesn't make sense to me either. But it is kind of fun to watch. Probably many here listen to Public Radio. The other day someone was interviewing Mel Brooks, and many of his off color creations, including Blazing Saddles,and Springtime for Hitler. Part of being human I think is to diffuse horrible situations by finding some side angle to slip in something a little light hearted. Not that was even your attempt. But, balanced individuals will always find a way to appreciate that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Susan, thanks for taking the time to write this and for being so clear and reasonable.à Share From: Susan wayback71@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2013 7:17 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f) à Glad you gave the post number. I read it. My take is that Robin started to act as if he is the Authority about you. ON one level it comes across as if he is complimenting you on being real rather than than your usual positive self or your self that is covered by a spiritual belief system. But the other message is that this is an amazing insight he has about you that you really just need to hear, for your own benefit and o the sake of being really honest. If someone had written that to me, I would feel 1) as if a boundary had been crossed and that the subject had suddenly shifted, without my consent or desire, to a discussion about my behaviors 2) that Robin feels he has some sort of enhanced insight into my psyche and 3) that a judgement had been made about how I behave usually. This might be a conversation to have with a therapist or a dear dear friend, but not in an online chat. It smells like what I have hears was the Robin of years ago, trying to dissect people, supposedly for their own benefit, without their permission or asking for that sort of help. Robin did lace his posts with qualifiers (ie maybe he is wrong) but nevertheless he said what he said about you. Whether he meant it or not, it was hurtful, demeaning and offensive. It feels creepy to me. I would back out of the conversation too. I thought you did so rather gracefully. Of course, I am not an expert on Robin or you or your history on FFL, so maybe there is something I am missing. If there is, fine. I am just responding to this post. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Xeno the post # 319335 is when I first got upset with Robin but it contains what had gone before.Ãâà Share From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 10:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f) Ãâà I couldn't find it. That is the original post from Robin to Share the one '8 weeks before' the one where she mentioned 'psychologically raped'. I did not find a direct reference to the post number or a link to it. It's late, bedtime for me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: Say, Curtis, did you ever read the original post from
[FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f)
Look at your own history of domestic relations, Ravi, then get back to me. K? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Think before you post you fucking idiot. I think most of us have too much sexual energy Ravi. So what distinguishes between you from a rapist? Think, think Steve baby - it won't kill you - I promise. And then forward that to sick, twisted bitch. On May 7, 2013, at 12:37 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: I think most of us have too much sexual energy Ravi.
[FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f)
thanks Share. I often read posts quickly. I recall now that, that was the context. But no matter. There are always those who are ready to shift the context, whatever it may be, to suit their own ends. I think you know who they are. The ones who are always accusing of others of doing that exact same thing. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: hey Steve, actually THE story that I had in mind when I made that comment was a story that Buck posted a little while ago. It was a story about women in India having their own car on the train for safety's sake. So my comment was not referring to a story about a rape incident. From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2013 10:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f)  Yea.  Ditto on that, Susan.   Hey, Share,  I took the comment on the frisky fellas in exactly the way you meant it.  I am sorry on behalf of Judy and Ann who saw fit to spin that in the worst possible way.  I'll apologize for them since they haven't gotten around to do so themselves.  Perhaps they will at  some point.  On the other hand, Gene Menetly, in some way you have done a number on them, or they have ceded their personal power to you.  Go easy on them, as you have.  And no, it doesn't make sense to me either.  But itis kind of fun to watch. Probably many here listen to Public Radio.  The other day someone was interviewing Mel Brooks, and many of his off color creations, including Blazing Saddles,and Springtime for Hitler.  Part of being human I think is to diffuse horrible situations by finding some side angle to slip in something a little light hearted.  Not that was even your attempt. But, balanced individuals will always find a way to appreciate that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Susan, thanks for taking the time to write this and for being so clear and reasonable.àShare From: Susan wayback71@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2013 7:17 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f) àGlad you gave the post number. I read it. My take is that Robin started to act as if he is the Authority about you. ON one level it comes across as if he is complimenting you on being real rather than than your usual positive self or your self that is covered by a spiritual belief system. But the other message is that this is an amazing insight he has about you that you really just need to hear, for your own benefit and o the sake of being really honest. If someone had written that to me, I would feel 1) as if a boundary had been crossed and that the subject had suddenly shifted, without my consent or desire, to a discussion about my behaviors 2) that Robin feels he has some sort of enhanced insight into my psyche and 3) that a judgement had been made about how I behave usually. This might be a conversation to have with a therapist or a dear dear friend, but not in an online chat. It smells like what I have hears was the Robin of years ago, trying to dissect people, supposedly for their own benefit, without their permission or asking for that sort of help. Robin did lace his posts with qualifiers (ie maybe he is wrong) but nevertheless he said what he said about you. Whether he meant it or not, it was hurtful, demeaning and offensive. It feels creepy to me. I would back out of the conversation too. I thought you did so rather gracefully. Of course, I am not an expert on Robin or you or your history on FFL, so maybe there is something I am missing. If there is, fine. I am just responding to this post. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Xeno the post # 319335 is when I first got upset with Robin but it contains what had gone before.ÃâàShare From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 10:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f) ÃâàI couldn't find it. That is the original post from Robin to Share the one '8 weeks before' the one where she mentioned 'psychologically raped'. I did not find a direct reference to the post number or a link to it. It's late, bedtime for me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: Say, Curtis, did you ever read the original post from Robin that Share decided eight weeks later constituted psychological rape? No? What is the number of that post? It's the one I already sent you, Xeno--you know
[FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: LOL.. My history of domestic relations is my unconditional love, care, support and total vulnerability to my partner. But I will never ever support twisted, delusional fantasies of anyone. Nice try, but no cigar. Unfortunately, it's a matter of the public record, and your own admissions here. Nice twist - it's clear you are not intelligent enough to go there. You would rather hump and you can't even come - how sad and perverted. As I said Ravi. I don't have to go there. It's a matter of public record, and your own admissions here, and by those of the affected parties, who've also posted here. This is nothing that has not been discussed by you and others on this site. Just own up to it, and then move on, if you can. But I will repeat..what distinguishes a normal too much sexual energy from that of a rapist. And let Share know, because she is fucking clueless - let her know being a rapist is not being a frisky feller, not just too much sexual energy. OK baby? Sexual dysfunctionality is one reason, which can either the be the cause or effect of an otherwise perverted outlook on life and can be expressed as violence towards women. Yes, I know rape is considered primarily as a violent act as opposed to a sexual act. Is that a good enough explanation for you. On May 7, 2013, at 1:09 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Look at your own history of domestic relations, Ravi, then get back to me. K? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Think before you post you fucking idiot. I think most of us have too much sexual energy Ravi. So what distinguishes between you from a rapist? Think, think Steve baby - it won't kill you - I promise. And then forward that to sick, twisted bitch. On May 7, 2013, at 12:37 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: I think most of us have too much sexual energy Ravi.
[FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: Dear Steve, where've you been? It's taken you forever to get back here, I thought you had died! Just remember, it was dear Share who brought the subject up this time, not anyone else. Why do you think she did that? I have a theory: she loves any opportunity to garner sympathy and support. And you are just the man for the job - oh yea, and Barry too. Curtis seems to have vacated the premises (for the moment) but now that you're back you can help hold the fort. Ann, como sa va? Thank you for your concern. No, I am alive and well, just trying to take care of business. I was inspired by Susan's post about Share's original post, and decided to jump back into the fray. It looks like you've had your boxing gloves on for a couple weeks now.
[FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Steve - just by putting something in bold and stating something is a public record doesn't make it true. STOP THIS SLANDER. It's not funny. The burden is on you - show which posts of mine say I wasn't but loving, vulnerable to my partner. Just because I talked against my ex doesn't mean anything, everyone knows what an amazing husband, father I was. God love you Ravi. It's no wonder you have such an affinity for Robin. Just because you say something, just because you believe something, doesn't make it true. I am sure you were a loving father, and I'm sure you feel you were a loving and vulnerable husband as well, but that is not what we heard from your wife at that time, who saw fit to post here directly with her own version of events. By the way, was that one of the times you said her e-mail account was hacked ? Stop lying, slandering to support a sick, twisted person. Calling rapists, molesters frisky fellers is such a behavior. Sorry Ravi, no one is buying it. Just as you couldn't give a straight answer to Curtis' question about your bigoted statement, the fact that you continue to scream something doesn't make it true. On May 7, 2013, at 1:42 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: LOL.. My history of domestic relations is my unconditional love, care, support and total vulnerability to my partner. But I will never ever support twisted, delusional fantasies of anyone. Nice try, but no cigar. Unfortunately, it's a matter of the public record, and your own admissions here. Nice twist - it's clear you are not intelligent enough to go there. You would rather hump and you can't even come - how sad and perverted. As I said Ravi. I don't have to go there. It's a matter of public record, and your own admissions here, and by those of the affected parties, who've also posted here. This is nothing that has not been discussed by you and others on this site. Just own up to it, and then move on, if you can. But I will repeat..what distinguishes a normal too much sexual energy from that of a rapist. And let Share know, because she is fucking clueless - let her know being a rapist is not being a frisky feller, not just too much sexual energy. OK baby? Sexual dysfunctionality is one reason, which can either the be the cause or effect of an otherwise perverted outlook on life and can be expressed as violence towards women. Yes, I know rape is considered primarily as a violent act as opposed to a sexual act. Is that a good enough explanation for you. On May 7, 2013, at 1:09 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Look at your own history of domestic relations, Ravi, then get back to me. K? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Think before you post you fucking idiot. I think most of us have too much sexual energy Ravi. So what distinguishes between you from a rapist? Think, think Steve baby - it won't kill you - I promise. And then forward that to sick, twisted bitch. On May 7, 2013, at 12:37 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: I think most of us have too much sexual energy Ravi.
[FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f)
Show me the slander Ravi. My saying that you weren't the terrific husband you claim you were? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Steve - there is a difference between insulting and slandering. STOP IT RIGHT AWAY. On May 7, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Steve - just by putting something in bold and stating something is a public record doesn't make it true. STOP THIS SLANDER. It's not funny. The burden is on you - show which posts of mine say I wasn't but loving, vulnerable to my partner. Just because I talked against my ex doesn't mean anything, everyone knows what an amazing husband, father I was. Stop lying, slandering to support a sick, twisted person. Calling rapists, molesters frisky fellers is such a behavior. On May 7, 2013, at 1:42 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: LOL.. My history of domestic relations is my unconditional love, care, support and total vulnerability to my partner. But I will never ever support twisted, delusional fantasies of anyone. Nice try, but no cigar. Unfortunately, it's a matter of the public record, and your own admissions here. Nice twist - it's clear you are not intelligent enough to go there. You would rather hump and you can't even come - how sad and perverted. As I said Ravi. I don't have to go there. It's a matter of public record, and your own admissions here, and by those of the affected parties, who've also posted here. This is nothing that has not been discussed by you and others on this site. Just own up to it, and then move on, if you can. But I will repeat..what distinguishes a normal too much sexual energy from that of a rapist. And let Share know, because she is fucking clueless - let her know being a rapist is not being a frisky feller, not just too much sexual energy. OK baby? Sexual dysfunctionality is one reason, which can either the be the cause or effect of an otherwise perverted outlook on life and can be expressed as violence towards women. Yes, I know rape is considered primarily as a violent act as opposed to a sexual act. Is that a good enough explanation for you. On May 7, 2013, at 1:09 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Look at your own history of domestic relations, Ravi, then get back to me. K? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Think before you post you fucking idiot. I think most of us have too much sexual energy Ravi. So what distinguishes between you from a rapist? Think, think Steve baby - it won't kill you - I promise. And then forward that to sick, twisted bitch. On May 7, 2013, at 12:37 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: I think most of us have too much sexual energy Ravi.
[FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f)
Ravi, did your wife issue a restraining order against you, or did she not? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: It is slander. Show me whatever posts that demonstrate that. Steve - I'm telling you - this is not funny. To post twisted lies, slander. You will not find anyone, Amma devotees, friends who knew me, my family who would say I was not a terrific husband. There is nothing here on FFL either - it's your fantasy. On May 7, 2013, at 2:04 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Show me the slander Ravi. My saying that you weren't the terrific husband you claim you were? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Steve - there is a difference between insulting and slandering. STOP IT RIGHT AWAY. On May 7, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Steve - just by putting something in bold and stating something is a public record doesn't make it true. STOP THIS SLANDER. It's not funny. The burden is on you - show which posts of mine say I wasn't but loving, vulnerable to my partner. Just because I talked against my ex doesn't mean anything, everyone knows what an amazing husband, father I was. Stop lying, slandering to support a sick, twisted person. Calling rapists, molesters frisky fellers is such a behavior. On May 7, 2013, at 1:42 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: LOL.. My history of domestic relations is my unconditional love, care, support and total vulnerability to my partner. But I will never ever support twisted, delusional fantasies of anyone. Nice try, but no cigar. Unfortunately, it's a matter of the public record, and your own admissions here. Nice twist - it's clear you are not intelligent enough to go there. You would rather hump and you can't even come - how sad and perverted. As I said Ravi. I don't have to go there. It's a matter of public record, and your own admissions here, and by those of the affected parties, who've also posted here. This is nothing that has not been discussed by you and others on this site. Just own up to it, and then move on, if you can. But I will repeat..what distinguishes a normal too much sexual energy from that of a rapist. And let Share know, because she is fucking clueless - let her know being a rapist is not being a frisky feller, not just too much sexual energy. OK baby? Sexual dysfunctionality is one reason, which can either the be the cause or effect of an otherwise perverted outlook on life and can be expressed as violence towards women. Yes, I know rape is considered primarily as a violent act as opposed to a sexual act. Is that a good enough explanation for you. On May 7, 2013, at 1:09 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Look at your own history of domestic relations, Ravi, then get back to me. K? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Think before you post you fucking idiot. I think most of us have too much sexual energy Ravi. So what distinguishes between you from a rapist? Think, think Steve baby - it won't kill you - I promise. And then forward that to sick, twisted bitch. On May 7, 2013, at 12:37 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: I think most of us have too much sexual energy Ravi. Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New TopicMessages in this topic (84) RECENT ACTIVITY: New Members 2 New Photos 3 Visit Your Group To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' MARKETPLACE Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest ⢠Unsubscribe ⢠Terms of Use ⢠Send us Feedback .
[FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f)
No Ravi, I am not deluded, I specifically recall a post from your wife stating who she was and offering a pointed opinion about you. Now if you go back to that time, you will see that either at your behest or that of the moderators a number of posts were deleted. Or perhaps that post may still be on the site. I don't know. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Are you deluded - my ex has never posted here. You must be confusing with her purported post on Ammachi Free Speech group and that was whether Amma asked money from me to support her TV channel and fund her religious wars against Christianity. I challenged that hit and run purported post of hers - all I had was silence. STOP these lies and slander Steve. I have already addressed Curtis statements, it is unrelated to your lies and slander here. You can respond to that one and we can discuss. On May 7, 2013, at 2:02 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Steve - just by putting something in bold and stating something is a public record doesn't make it true. STOP THIS SLANDER. It's not funny. The burden is on you - show which posts of mine say I wasn't but loving, vulnerable to my partner. Just because I talked against my ex doesn't mean anything, everyone knows what an amazing husband, father I was. God love you Ravi. It's no wonder you have such an affinity for Robin. Just because you say something, just because you believe something, doesn't make it true. I am sure you were a loving father, and I'm sure you feel you were a loving and vulnerable husband as well, but that is not what we heard from your wife at that time, who saw fit to post here directly with her own version of events. By the way, was that one of the times you said her e-mail account was hacked ? Stop lying, slandering to support a sick, twisted person. Calling rapists, molesters frisky fellers is such a behavior. Sorry Ravi, no one is buying it. Just as you couldn't give a straight answer to Curtis' question about your bigoted statement, the fact that you continue to scream something doesn't make it true. On May 7, 2013, at 1:42 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: LOL.. My history of domestic relations is my unconditional love, care, support and total vulnerability to my partner. But I will never ever support twisted, delusional fantasies of anyone. Nice try, but no cigar. Unfortunately, it's a matter of the public record, and your own admissions here. Nice twist - it's clear you are not intelligent enough to go there. You would rather hump and you can't even come - how sad and perverted. As I said Ravi. I don't have to go there. It's a matter of public record, and your own admissions here, and by those of the affected parties, who've also posted here. This is nothing that has not been discussed by you and others on this site. Just own up to it, and then move on, if you can. But I will repeat..what distinguishes a normal too much sexual energy from that of a rapist. And let Share know, because she is fucking clueless - let her know being a rapist is not being a frisky feller, not just too much sexual energy. OK baby? Sexual dysfunctionality is one reason, which can either the be the cause or effect of an otherwise perverted outlook on life and can be expressed as violence towards women. Yes, I know rape is considered primarily as a violent act as opposed to a sexual act. Is that a good enough explanation for you. On May 7, 2013, at 1:09 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Look at your own history of domestic relations, Ravi, then get back to me. K? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Think before you post you fucking idiot. I think most of us have too much sexual energy Ravi. So what distinguishes between you from a rapist? Think, think Steve baby - it won't kill you - I promise. And then forward that to sick, twisted bitch. On May 7, 2013, at 12:37 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: I think most of us have too much sexual energy Ravi.
[FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f)
If I was wrong and it was dismissed because there was no grounds, then I apologize. But why is it Ravi, that she would see fit to apply for such a restraining order? See, here you are presenting just your version of events. Who knows, perhaps it is the accurate one, but I have learned that there is usually another side to the story. And of course there are other issues, that I really don't care to bring up. Things you have discussed here regarding the way things played out in your divorce. But you have explained all that in some detail. People can draw their own conclusions about it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Yes she did - the judge dismissed it because she had no case. She has done a lot of devious stuff like this - false cases and charges. Let it go Steve - you are engaging in a similar sick, twisted behavior as her. All this to cover up for Share unwilling to take accountability for her words - are you demented Steve? On May 7, 2013, at 2:27 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Ravi, did your wife issue a restraining order against you, or did she not? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: It is slander. Show me whatever posts that demonstrate that. Steve - I'm telling you - this is not funny. To post twisted lies, slander. You will not find anyone, Amma devotees, friends who knew me, my family who would say I was not a terrific husband. There is nothing here on FFL either - it's your fantasy. On May 7, 2013, at 2:04 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Show me the slander Ravi. My saying that you weren't the terrific husband you claim you were? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Steve - there is a difference between insulting and slandering. STOP IT RIGHT AWAY. On May 7, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Steve - just by putting something in bold and stating something is a public record doesn't make it true. STOP THIS SLANDER. It's not funny. The burden is on you - show which posts of mine say I wasn't but loving, vulnerable to my partner. Just because I talked against my ex doesn't mean anything, everyone knows what an amazing husband, father I was. Stop lying, slandering to support a sick, twisted person. Calling rapists, molesters frisky fellers is such a behavior. On May 7, 2013, at 1:42 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: LOL.. My history of domestic relations is my unconditional love, care, support and total vulnerability to my partner. But I will never ever support twisted, delusional fantasies of anyone. Nice try, but no cigar. Unfortunately, it's a matter of the public record, and your own admissions here. Nice twist - it's clear you are not intelligent enough to go there. You would rather hump and you can't even come - how sad and perverted. As I said Ravi. I don't have to go there. It's a matter of public record, and your own admissions here, and by those of the affected parties, who've also posted here. This is nothing that has not been discussed by you and others on this site. Just own up to it, and then move on, if you can. But I will repeat..what distinguishes a normal too much sexual energy from that of a rapist. And let Share know, because she is fucking clueless - let her know being a rapist is not being a frisky feller, not just too much sexual energy. OK baby? Sexual dysfunctionality is one reason, which can either the be the cause or effect of an otherwise perverted outlook on life and can be expressed as violence towards women. Yes, I know rape is considered primarily as a violent act as opposed to a sexual act. Is that a good enough explanation for you. On May 7, 2013, at 1:09 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Look at your own history of domestic relations, Ravi, then get back to me. K? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Think before you post you fucking idiot. I think most of us have too much sexual energy Ravi. So what distinguishes between you from a rapist? Think, think Steve baby - it won't kill you - I promise. And then forward that to sick, twisted bitch. On May 7, 2013, at 12:37 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: I think most of us have too much sexual energy Ravi. Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (84) RECENT ACTIVITY: New Members 2 New Photos 3 Visit Your Group To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr
[FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f)
Hey Ravi, I have laid out my case. You and others can decide if it has credibility or not. Nothing else really to say. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Sorry Steve baby - it's a lie. I deleted my posts because they had personal references to others - I can't delete other's posts. You need to back it up. All you have at this point is lies and slander. You are driven by something twisted in you. You have a fascination for sick, twisted bitches. You need help baby. On May 7, 2013, at 2:34 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: No Ravi, I am not deluded, I specifically recall a post from your wife stating who she was and offering a pointed opinion about you. Now if you go back to that time, you will see that either at your behest or that of the moderators a number of posts were deleted. Or perhaps that post may still be on the site. I don't know. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Are you deluded - my ex has never posted here. You must be confusing with her purported post on Ammachi Free Speech group and that was whether Amma asked money from me to support her TV channel and fund her religious wars against Christianity. I challenged that hit and run purported post of hers - all I had was silence. STOP these lies and slander Steve. I have already addressed Curtis statements, it is unrelated to your lies and slander here. You can respond to that one and we can discuss. On May 7, 2013, at 2:02 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Steve - just by putting something in bold and stating something is a public record doesn't make it true. STOP THIS SLANDER. It's not funny. The burden is on you - show which posts of mine say I wasn't but loving, vulnerable to my partner. Just because I talked against my ex doesn't mean anything, everyone knows what an amazing husband, father I was. God love you Ravi. It's no wonder you have such an affinity for Robin. Just because you say something, just because you believe something, doesn't make it true. I am sure you were a loving father, and I'm sure you feel you were a loving and vulnerable husband as well, but that is not what we heard from your wife at that time, who saw fit to post here directly with her own version of events. By the way, was that one of the times you said her e-mail account was hacked ? Stop lying, slandering to support a sick, twisted person. Calling rapists, molesters frisky fellers is such a behavior. Sorry Ravi, no one is buying it. Just as you couldn't give a straight answer to Curtis' question about your bigoted statement, the fact that you continue to scream something doesn't make it true. On May 7, 2013, at 1:42 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: LOL.. My history of domestic relations is my unconditional love, care, support and total vulnerability to my partner. But I will never ever support twisted, delusional fantasies of anyone. Nice try, but no cigar. Unfortunately, it's a matter of the public record, and your own admissions here. Nice twist - it's clear you are not intelligent enough to go there. You would rather hump and you can't even come - how sad and perverted. As I said Ravi. I don't have to go there. It's a matter of public record, and your own admissions here, and by those of the affected parties, who've also posted here. This is nothing that has not been discussed by you and others on this site. Just own up to it, and then move on, if you can. But I will repeat..what distinguishes a normal too much sexual energy from that of a rapist. And let Share know, because she is fucking clueless - let her know being a rapist is not being a frisky feller, not just too much sexual energy. OK baby? Sexual dysfunctionality is one reason, which can either the be the cause or effect of an otherwise perverted outlook on life and can be expressed as violence towards women. Yes, I know rape is considered primarily as a violent act as opposed to a sexual act. Is that a good enough explanation for you. On May 7, 2013, at 1:09 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Look at your own history of domestic relations, Ravi, then get back to me. K? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Think before you post you fucking idiot. I think most of us have too much sexual energy Ravi. So what distinguishes between you from a rapist? Think, think Steve baby - it won't kill you - I promise. And then forward that to sick, twisted bitch. On May 7, 2013, at 12:37 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote
[FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f)
And all we are getting Ravi, is your version events. And the fact that you were left with no rights regarding visitation with your children. What does that say? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Steve - you need to stop doubling down with more lies. No she had absolutely no case other than a personal vendetta and the fact that I ripped apart her sick, twisted lies. Remember - I filed for divorce, I dumped her. She gets all the financial support. Can't you see the futility of your efforts - I don't need anything from her - I was always the giver. All she had at the court was my posts on the Internet and the judge say hey he has the free speech and you have absolutely no case. On May 7, 2013, at 2:45 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: If I was wrong and it was dismissed because there was no grounds, then I apologize. But why is it Ravi, that she would see fit to apply for such a restraining order? See, here you are presenting just your version of events. Who knows, perhaps it is the accurate one, but I have learned that there is usually another side to the story. And of course there are other issues, that I really don't care to bring up. Things you have discussed here regarding the way things played out in your divorce. But you have explained all that in some detail. People can draw their own conclusions about it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Yes she did - the judge dismissed it because she had no case. She has done a lot of devious stuff like this - false cases and charges. Let it go Steve - you are engaging in a similar sick, twisted behavior as her. All this to cover up for Share unwilling to take accountability for her words - are you demented Steve? On May 7, 2013, at 2:27 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Ravi, did your wife issue a restraining order against you, or did she not? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: It is slander. Show me whatever posts that demonstrate that. Steve - I'm telling you - this is not funny. To post twisted lies, slander. You will not find anyone, Amma devotees, friends who knew me, my family who would say I was not a terrific husband. There is nothing here on FFL either - it's your fantasy. On May 7, 2013, at 2:04 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Show me the slander Ravi. My saying that you weren't the terrific husband you claim you were? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Steve - there is a difference between insulting and slandering. STOP IT RIGHT AWAY. On May 7, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Steve - just by putting something in bold and stating something is a public record doesn't make it true. STOP THIS SLANDER. It's not funny. The burden is on you - show which posts of mine say I wasn't but loving, vulnerable to my partner. Just because I talked against my ex doesn't mean anything, everyone knows what an amazing husband, father I was. Stop lying, slandering to support a sick, twisted person. Calling rapists, molesters frisky fellers is such a behavior. On May 7, 2013, at 1:42 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: LOL.. My history of domestic relations is my unconditional love, care, support and total vulnerability to my partner. But I will never ever support twisted, delusional fantasies of anyone. Nice try, but no cigar. Unfortunately, it's a matter of the public record, and your own admissions here. Nice twist - it's clear you are not intelligent enough to go there. You would rather hump and you can't even come - how sad and perverted. As I said Ravi. I don't have to go there. It's a matter of public record, and your own admissions here, and by those of the affected parties, who've also posted here. This is nothing that has not been discussed by you and others on this site. Just own up to it, and then move on, if you can. But I will repeat..what distinguishes a normal too much sexual energy from that of a rapist. And let Share know, because she is fucking clueless - let her know being a rapist is not being a frisky feller, not just too much sexual energy. OK baby? Sexual dysfunctionality is one reason, which can either the be the cause or effect of an otherwise perverted outlook on life and can be expressed as violence towards women. Yes, I know rape is considered primarily as a violent act as opposed to a sexual act. Is that a good enough explanation for you. On May 7, 2013, at 1:09 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur
[FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f)
All I've presented is facts Ravi. And if I was wrong on a fact, then I apologized. I am sorry if the overall facts don't suit the image you have of yourself. And of course, all we are hearing is your version of events. It was your wife who posted here, directly, that you were an unstable person. Now that may be a post that you deleted, or claim it was from a hacked e-mail account, but those were her words. Again, I am sorry if that punches a hole in the image you are trying to create for yourself here. Maybe its time to move on Ravi. But carry on if you will. We both have a low numbers of posts. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: No Steve, you sick, twisted mother fucker - you didn't present anything than lies and slander. You have nothing. This is a twisted behavior to protect twisted people, and this is not the first time you have slandered with lies. On May 7, 2013, at 2:49 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Hey Ravi, I have laid out my case. You and others can decide if it has credibility or not. Nothing else really to say. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Sorry Steve baby - it's a lie. I deleted my posts because they had personal references to others - I can't delete other's posts. You need to back it up. All you have at this point is lies and slander. You are driven by something twisted in you. You have a fascination for sick, twisted bitches. You need help baby. On May 7, 2013, at 2:34 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: No Ravi, I am not deluded, I specifically recall a post from your wife stating who she was and offering a pointed opinion about you. Now if you go back to that time, you will see that either at your behest or that of the moderators a number of posts were deleted. Or perhaps that post may still be on the site. I don't know. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Are you deluded - my ex has never posted here. You must be confusing with her purported post on Ammachi Free Speech group and that was whether Amma asked money from me to support her TV channel and fund her religious wars against Christianity. I challenged that hit and run purported post of hers - all I had was silence. STOP these lies and slander Steve. I have already addressed Curtis statements, it is unrelated to your lies and slander here. You can respond to that one and we can discuss. On May 7, 2013, at 2:02 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Steve - just by putting something in bold and stating something is a public record doesn't make it true. STOP THIS SLANDER. It's not funny. The burden is on you - show which posts of mine say I wasn't but loving, vulnerable to my partner. Just because I talked against my ex doesn't mean anything, everyone knows what an amazing husband, father I was. God love you Ravi. It's no wonder you have such an affinity for Robin. Just because you say something, just because you believe something, doesn't make it true. I am sure you were a loving father, and I'm sure you feel you were a loving and vulnerable husband as well, but that is not what we heard from your wife at that time, who saw fit to post here directly with her own version of events. By the way, was that one of the times you said her e-mail account was hacked ? Stop lying, slandering to support a sick, twisted person. Calling rapists, molesters frisky fellers is such a behavior. Sorry Ravi, no one is buying it. Just as you couldn't give a straight answer to Curtis' question about your bigoted statement, the fact that you continue to scream something doesn't make it true. On May 7, 2013, at 1:42 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: LOL.. My history of domestic relations is my unconditional love, care, support and total vulnerability to my partner. But I will never ever support twisted, delusional fantasies of anyone. Nice try, but no cigar. Unfortunately, it's a matter of the public record, and your own admissions here. Nice twist - it's clear you are not intelligent enough to go there. You would rather hump and you can't even come - how sad and perverted. As I said Ravi. I don't have to go there. It's a matter of public record, and your own admissions here, and by those of the affected parties, who've also posted here. This is nothing that has not been discussed by you and others on this site. Just own up to it, and then move on, if you can. But I will repeat..what distinguishes a normal too much sexual energy from that of a rapist. And let Share know, because
[FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Hey Ravi, I have laid out my case. You and others can decide if it has credibility or not. Nothing else really to say. Steve, you had nothing really to say before you wrote what you wrote. What is your exact point of this entire conversation? If you are trying to somehow make Ravi look bad, guess what? Ravi, positions himself as having the pinnacle (notice I didn't say penultimate, (thank you again for that correction Ann) intellect to judge people. I am just pointing out that the judge may have a pretty severe case of myopia. And you and others can decide if it has credibility or not is hilarious. You know why? Because absolutely no one cares and you have simply brought it all up as a stupid (really stupid) attempt to 'get' Ravi. Steve, you have no case, you are not a lawyer in a court of law (surprise!) and your subject has no relevance to anything. I am not sure why I am even commenting here, Well, that makes two of us Ann. your contributions lately have had no substance or merit and all it does is make you look very, very small. Right, this is the Judy meme that I (and I think many others) have noticed that you have taken on. I am signing off now, but please consider what I have said.duly considered Ann. thank you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Sorry Steve baby - it's a lie. I deleted my posts because they had personal references to others - I can't delete other's posts. You need to back it up. All you have at this point is lies and slander. You are driven by something twisted in you. You have a fascination for sick, twisted bitches. You need help baby. On May 7, 2013, at 2:34 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: No Ravi, I am not deluded, I specifically recall a post from your wife stating who she was and offering a pointed opinion about you. Now if you go back to that time, you will see that either at your behest or that of the moderators a number of posts were deleted. Or perhaps that post may still be on the site. I don't know. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Are you deluded - my ex has never posted here. You must be confusing with her purported post on Ammachi Free Speech group and that was whether Amma asked money from me to support her TV channel and fund her religious wars against Christianity. I challenged that hit and run purported post of hers - all I had was silence. STOP these lies and slander Steve. I have already addressed Curtis statements, it is unrelated to your lies and slander here. You can respond to that one and we can discuss. On May 7, 2013, at 2:02 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Steve - just by putting something in bold and stating something is a public record doesn't make it true. STOP THIS SLANDER. It's not funny. The burden is on you - show which posts of mine say I wasn't but loving, vulnerable to my partner. Just because I talked against my ex doesn't mean anything, everyone knows what an amazing husband, father I was. God love you Ravi. It's no wonder you have such an affinity for Robin. Just because you say something, just because you believe something, doesn't make it true. I am sure you were a loving father, and I'm sure you feel you were a loving and vulnerable husband as well, but that is not what we heard from your wife at that time, who saw fit to post here directly with her own version of events. By the way, was that one of the times you said her e-mail account was hacked ? Stop lying, slandering to support a sick, twisted person. Calling rapists, molesters frisky fellers is such a behavior. Sorry Ravi, no one is buying it. Just as you couldn't give a straight answer to Curtis' question about your bigoted statement, the fact that you continue to scream something doesn't make it true. On May 7, 2013, at 1:42 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: LOL.. My history of domestic relations is my unconditional love, care, support and total vulnerability to my partner. But I will never ever support twisted, delusional fantasies of anyone. Nice try, but no cigar. Unfortunately, it's a matter of the public record, and your own admissions here. Nice twist - it's clear you are not intelligent enough to go there. You would rather hump and you can't even come - how sad and perverted. As I said Ravi. I don't have to go there. It's a matter of public record
[FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f)
Finally a speck of honesty. I respect that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: No, no, no - you have twisted, distorted facts. You are not using your intelligence - you are a proven retard, malicious troll here. You are slandering, lying, running a malicious troll and I have to address twisted, malicious, trollish mother fuckers like you. I have a version of events because I was with her. You have nothing that adds to your sick, twisted narrative of lies and slander. A huge jump as if you were one of our close friends - this is fucking deranged. Even people who dislike me in my personal life will say I was not a good father or husband. BTW, I am sure you were a good father, and I am sure you made a good attempt at being a loving husband, but you know, ego can get in the way of that. You can say hey I am not in board with your events and that will be fine, what's not fine is your lies, slander, distortion and perversion of truth. She may call me mentally unbalanced - that is no different from any of the retards here. Maybe so, Ravi, but we don't hear that from those who are, or were closest to us. There isn't anything to support her narrative here. So move on. On May 7, 2013, at 3:05 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: All I've presented is facts Ravi. And if I was wrong on a fact, then I apologized. I am sorry if the overall facts don't suit the image you have of yourself. And of course, all we are hearing is your version of events. It was your wife who posted here, directly, that you were an unstable person. Now that may be a post that you deleted, or claim it was from a hacked e-mail account, but those were her words. Again, I am sorry if that punches a hole in the image you are trying to create for yourself here. Maybe its time to move on Ravi. But carry on if you will. We both have a low numbers of posts. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: No Steve, you sick, twisted mother fucker - you didn't present anything than lies and slander. You have nothing. This is a twisted behavior to protect twisted people, and this is not the first time you have slandered with lies. On May 7, 2013, at 2:49 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Hey Ravi, I have laid out my case. You and others can decide if it has credibility or not. Nothing else really to say. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Sorry Steve baby - it's a lie. I deleted my posts because they had personal references to others - I can't delete other's posts. You need to back it up. All you have at this point is lies and slander. You are driven by something twisted in you. You have a fascination for sick, twisted bitches. You need help baby. On May 7, 2013, at 2:34 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: No Ravi, I am not deluded, I specifically recall a post from your wife stating who she was and offering a pointed opinion about you. Now if you go back to that time, you will see that either at your behest or that of the moderators a number of posts were deleted. Or perhaps that post may still be on the site. I don't know. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Are you deluded - my ex has never posted here. You must be confusing with her purported post on Ammachi Free Speech group and that was whether Amma asked money from me to support her TV channel and fund her religious wars against Christianity. I challenged that hit and run purported post of hers - all I had was silence. STOP these lies and slander Steve. I have already addressed Curtis statements, it is unrelated to your lies and slander here. You can respond to that one and we can discuss. On May 7, 2013, at 2:02 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Steve - just by putting something in bold and stating something is a public record doesn't make it true. STOP THIS SLANDER. It's not funny. The burden is on you - show which posts of mine say I wasn't but loving, vulnerable to my partner. Just because I talked against my ex doesn't mean anything, everyone knows what an amazing husband, father I was. God love you Ravi. It's no wonder you have such an affinity for Robin. Just because you say something, just because you believe something, doesn't make it true. I am sure you were a loving father, and I'm sure you feel you were a loving and vulnerable husband as well, but that is not what we heard from your wife at that time, who saw fit to post here directly with her own version of events. By the way, was that one of the times you said her e-mail account was hacked ? Stop
[FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Yes - I have a special ability, insight into judging people. Even electronic medium is no barrier. An intuition right from my childhood. It's untainted by any intellectual process - so powerful is my intuition and rarely does it go wrong. If I come after you, you bet your retarded ass it will stick, if not I will bend over backwards to apologize. Next I guess you'll be telling us you attended Xavier's School for Gifted Children? All the people I have exposed had some deception, the level and intensity varies - and in many cases I wasn't even aware of it. It happens outside of my intellect. Well I feel fortunate that finally we are getting a little better picture of how you view yourself. You haven't proven anything to the contrary - all you have done is twisted, distorted truth. Right, me and Curtis, and Barry, and Share and Xeno and on and on and on On May 7, 2013, at 3:19 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Hey Ravi, I have laid out my case. You and others can decide if it has credibility or not. Nothing else really to say. Steve, you had nothing really to say before you wrote what you wrote. What is your exact point of this entire conversation? If you are trying to somehow make Ravi look bad, guess what? Ravi, positions himself as having the pinnacle (notice I didn't say penultimate, (thank you again for that correction Ann) intellect to judge people. I am just pointing out that the judge may have a pretty severe case of myopia. And you and others can decide if it has credibility or not is hilarious. You know why? Because absolutely no one cares and you have simply brought it all up as a stupid (really stupid) attempt to 'get' Ravi. Steve, you have no case, you are not a lawyer in a court of law (surprise!) and your subject has no relevance to anything. I am not sure why I am even commenting here, Well, that makes two of us Ann. your contributions lately have had no substance or merit and all it does is make you look very, very small. Right, this is the Judy meme that I (and I think many others) have noticed that you have taken on. I am signing off now, but please consider what I have said. duly considered Ann. thank you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Sorry Steve baby - it's a lie. I deleted my posts because they had personal references to others - I can't delete other's posts. You need to back it up. All you have at this point is lies and slander. You are driven by something twisted in you. You have a fascination for sick, twisted bitches. You need help baby. On May 7, 2013, at 2:34 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: No Ravi, I am not deluded, I specifically recall a post from your wife stating who she was and offering a pointed opinion about you. Now if you go back to that time, you will see that either at your behest or that of the moderators a number of posts were deleted. Or perhaps that post may still be on the site. I don't know. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Are you deluded - my ex has never posted here. You must be confusing with her purported post on Ammachi Free Speech group and that was whether Amma asked money from me to support her TV channel and fund her religious wars against Christianity. I challenged that hit and run purported post of hers - all I had was silence. STOP these lies and slander Steve. I have already addressed Curtis statements, it is unrelated to your lies and slander here. You can respond to that one and we can discuss. On May 7, 2013, at 2:02 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Steve - just by putting something in bold and stating something is a public record doesn't make it true. STOP THIS SLANDER. It's not funny. The burden is on you - show which posts of mine say I wasn't but loving, vulnerable to my partner. Just because I talked against my ex doesn't mean anything, everyone knows what an amazing husband, father I was. God love you Ravi. It's no wonder you have such an affinity for Robin. Just because you say something, just because you believe something, doesn't make it true. I am sure you were a loving father, and I'm sure you feel you were a loving and vulnerable husband as well, but that is not what we heard from your wife at that time, who saw fit to post here directly with her own version of events
[FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: You fucking retard - a typo - even people who I have decimated will grudgingly vouch for me in the areas of a parent and partner. They will only say oh Ravi was a super nice guy till he went crazy LOL. You realize Ravi, that that is not saying much. I mean what you say above applies to..most everyone in the world. Everyone is pretty decent unless they happen to go crazy. Then suddenly they are not so popular. In your case, you fell in love. But unfortunately it was yourself, and then there was no room for anyone else. (excepting Devi of course, of course) On May 7, 2013, at 3:23 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Finally a speck of honesty. I respect that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: No, no, no - you have twisted, distorted facts. You are not using your intelligence - you are a proven retard, malicious troll here. You are slandering, lying, running a malicious troll and I have to address twisted, malicious, trollish mother fuckers like you. I have a version of events because I was with her. You have nothing that adds to your sick, twisted narrative of lies and slander. A huge jump as if you were one of our close friends - this is fucking deranged. Even people who dislike me in my personal life will say I was not a good father or husband. BTW, I am sure you were a good father, and I am sure you made a good attempt at being a loving husband, but you know, ego can get in the way of that. You can say hey I am not in board with your events and that will be fine, what's not fine is your lies, slander, distortion and perversion of truth. She may call me mentally unbalanced - that is no different from any of the retards here. Maybe so, Ravi, but we don't hear that from those who are, or were closest to us. There isn't anything to support her narrative here. So move on. On May 7, 2013, at 3:05 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: All I've presented is facts Ravi. And if I was wrong on a fact, then I apologized. I am sorry if the overall facts don't suit the image you have of yourself. And of course, all we are hearing is your version of events. It was your wife who posted here, directly, that you were an unstable person. Now that may be a post that you deleted, or claim it was from a hacked e-mail account, but those were her words. Again, I am sorry if that punches a hole in the image you are trying to create for yourself here. Maybe its time to move on Ravi. But carry on if you will. We both have a low numbers of posts. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: No Steve, you sick, twisted mother fucker - you didn't present anything than lies and slander. You have nothing. This is a twisted behavior to protect twisted people, and this is not the first time you have slandered with lies. On May 7, 2013, at 2:49 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Hey Ravi, I have laid out my case. You and others can decide if it has credibility or not. Nothing else really to say. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Sorry Steve baby - it's a lie. I deleted my posts because they had personal references to others - I can't delete other's posts. You need to back it up. All you have at this point is lies and slander. You are driven by something twisted in you. You have a fascination for sick, twisted bitches. You need help baby. On May 7, 2013, at 2:34 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: No Ravi, I am not deluded, I specifically recall a post from your wife stating who she was and offering a pointed opinion about you. Now if you go back to that time, you will see that either at your behest or that of the moderators a number of posts were deleted. Or perhaps that post may still be on the site. I don't know. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Are you deluded - my ex has never posted here. You must be confusing with her purported post on Ammachi Free Speech group and that was whether Amma asked money from me to support her TV channel and fund her religious wars against Christianity. I challenged that hit and run purported post of hers - all I had was silence. STOP these lies and slander Steve. I have already addressed Curtis statements, it is unrelated to your lies and slander here. You can respond to that one and we can discuss. On May 7, 2013, at 2:02 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Steve - just by putting something in bold and stating something is a public record doesn't
[FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f)
No problem Ravi. I got to watch my daughter's last lacrosse game. She did alright. Plays defense. Feel free to withdraw from the discussion at any time. I don't mean to burden you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Dear Steve- Thank you for refraining from being a malicious troll and attention slut from 4-7 PM - I had really important work. I don't have too much for this latest round of attention sluttery on your part - all I can say is nice try. On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 7:25 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: You fucking retard - a typo - even people who I have decimated will grudgingly vouch for me in the areas of a parent and partner. They will only say oh Ravi was a super nice guy till he went crazy LOL. You realize Ravi, that that is not saying much. I mean what you say above applies to..most everyone in the world. Everyone is pretty decent unless they happen to go crazy. Then suddenly they are not so popular. In your case, you fell in love. But unfortunately it was yourself, and then there was no room for anyone else. (excepting Devi of course, of course) On May 7, 2013, at 3:23 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Finally a speck of honesty. I respect that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: No, no, no - you have twisted, distorted facts. You are not using your intelligence - you are a proven retard, malicious troll here. You are slandering, lying, running a malicious troll and I have to address twisted, malicious, trollish mother fuckers like you. I have a version of events because I was with her. You have nothing that adds to your sick, twisted narrative of lies and slander. A huge jump as if you were one of our close friends - this is fucking deranged. Even people who dislike me in my personal life will say I was not a good father or husband. BTW, I am sure you were a good father, and I am sure you made a good attempt at being a loving husband, but you know, ego can get in the way of that. You can say hey I am not in board with your events and that will be fine, what's not fine is your lies, slander, distortion and perversion of truth. She may call me mentally unbalanced - that is no different from any of the retards here. Maybe so, Ravi, but we don't hear that from those who are, or were closest to us. There isn't anything to support her narrative here. So move on. On May 7, 2013, at 3:05 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: All I've presented is facts Ravi. And if I was wrong on a fact, then I apologized. I am sorry if the overall facts don't suit the image you have of yourself. And of course, all we are hearing is your version of events. It was your wife who posted here, directly, that you were an unstable person. Now that may be a post that you deleted, or claim it was from a hacked e-mail account, but those were her words. Again, I am sorry if that punches a hole in the image you are trying to create for yourself here. Maybe its time to move on Ravi. But carry on if you will. We both have a low numbers of posts. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: No Steve, you sick, twisted mother fucker - you didn't present anything than lies and slander. You have nothing. This is a twisted behavior to protect twisted people, and this is not the first time you have slandered with lies. On May 7, 2013, at 2:49 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Hey Ravi, I have laid out my case. You and others can decide if it has credibility or not. Nothing else really to say. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Sorry Steve baby - it's a lie. I deleted my posts because they had personal references to others - I can't delete other's posts. You need to back it up. All you have at this point is lies and slander. You are driven by something twisted in you. You have a fascination for sick, twisted bitches. You need help baby. On May 7, 2013, at 2:34 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@wrote: No Ravi, I am not deluded, I specifically recall a post from your wife stating who she was and offering a pointed opinion about you. Now if you go back to that time, you will see that either at your behest or that of the moderators a number of posts were deleted. Or perhaps that post may still be on the site. I don't know. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Are you deluded - my ex has never posted here. You must
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Wed 08-May-13 00:15:02 UTC
What do you recommend Ravi? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: If we can get rid of Iowan bovine buffoons like you, malicious trolls and attention sluts like Steve, Share, Barry - who don't add any value we should be good. On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: ** Dear Old FFL; A 50 ad hominem post limit a week for shelling this place is just too high a limit and killing this place. A 30 posts a week limit is plenty enough to say something relevant and could save this place. Are there better more civil forums or blog discussions of spirituality generally and TM using a more moderated, respectful and civil decorum? This one is looking like a war-torn Islamic country. I helped settle this place originally but looking now to join the refugees... Jeesuus, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@ wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 05/04/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 05/11/13 00:00:00 343 messages as of (UTC) 05/08/13 00:13:53 43 authfriend 29 Buck 28 Share Long 26 Ravi Chivukula 24 Ann 21 turquoiseb 20 seventhray27 17 merudanda 17 curtisdeltablues 15 Richard J. Williams 15 Michael Jackson 14 salyavin808 14 Bhairitu 11 card 9 John 7 merlin 6 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 5 srijau 4 emptybill 4 Mike Dixon 2 feste37 2 at_man_and_brahman 2 Susan 2 Jason 1 sparaig 1 raunchydog 1 martin.quickman 1 Yifu 1 Dick Mays 1 Alex Stanley Posters: 30 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Wed 08-May-13 00:15:02 UTC
Ok Ravi, Thanks for the feedback. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: From you dear Steve? Something that shows intelligence and effort and that adds value rather than having me post 20 aggressive posts defending my reputation against trollish, slanderous nonsense. If you are going to present something as facts - you better back it up - perhaps spend more energy and time on each of the posts you respond to. One can never change Share and Barry since their problems are too insurmountable for their respective lifetimes but you and Curtis clearly are normal humans (as in seem to not have psychological issues like Barry/Share) and something can be done there. On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 7:41 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: ** What do you recommend Ravi? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: If we can get rid of Iowan bovine buffoons like you, malicious trolls and attention sluts like Steve, Share, Barry - who don't add any value we should be good. On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: ** Dear Old FFL; A 50 ad hominem post limit a week for shelling this place is just too high a limit and killing this place. A 30 posts a week limit is plenty enough to say something relevant and could save this place. Are there better more civil forums or blog discussions of spirituality generally and TM using a more moderated, respectful and civil decorum? This one is looking like a war-torn Islamic country. I helped settle this place originally but looking now to join the refugees... Jeesuus, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@ wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 05/04/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 05/11/13 00:00:00 343 messages as of (UTC) 05/08/13 00:13:53 43 authfriend 29 Buck 28 Share Long 26 Ravi Chivukula 24 Ann 21 turquoiseb 20 seventhray27 17 merudanda 17 curtisdeltablues 15 Richard J. Williams 15 Michael Jackson 14 salyavin808 14 Bhairitu 11 card 9 John 7 merlin 6 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 5 srijau 4 emptybill 4 Mike Dixon 2 feste37 2 at_man_and_brahman 2 Susan 2 Jason 1 sparaig 1 raunchydog 1 martin.quickman 1 Yifu 1 Dick Mays 1 Alex Stanley Posters: 30 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Wed 08-May-13 00:15:02 UTC
That is awesome. I will always be wishing you the best. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Thank you - I really appreciate that dear Steve. Sorry for being harsh on you today. I take great pride in my values of honesty, accountability and integrity. I have worked very hard for that - as in through a lot of pain and suffering, I was always able to absorb lessons inspite of the extreme discomfort it caused, able to stay true to reality even in situations that humiliated, humbled me. I remember each and every excruciating, painful detail of these incidents. I always introspect extensively and evalaute each and every action of mine without needing to make myself come out ahead of others, ahead of reality. So if someone will target my value system I will aggressively defend myself. You don't have to agree with it, but this is my perspective. On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 8:03 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: ** Ok Ravi, Thanks for the feedback. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: From you dear Steve? Something that shows intelligence and effort and that adds value rather than having me post 20 aggressive posts defending my reputation against trollish, slanderous nonsense. If you are going to present something as facts - you better back it up - perhaps spend more energy and time on each of the posts you respond to. One can never change Share and Barry since their problems are too insurmountable for their respective lifetimes but you and Curtis clearly are normal humans (as in seem to not have psychological issues like Barry/Share) and something can be done there. On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 7:41 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: ** What do you recommend Ravi? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: If we can get rid of Iowan bovine buffoons like you, malicious trolls and attention sluts like Steve, Share, Barry - who don't add any value we should be good. On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: ** Dear Old FFL; A 50 ad hominem post limit a week for shelling this place is just too high a limit and killing this place. A 30 posts a week limit is plenty enough to say something relevant and could save this place. Are there better more civil forums or blog discussions of spirituality generally and TM using a more moderated, respectful and civil decorum? This one is looking like a war-torn Islamic country. I helped settle this place originally but looking now to join the refugees... Jeesuus, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@ wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 05/04/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 05/11/13 00:00:00 343 messages as of (UTC) 05/08/13 00:13:53 43 authfriend 29 Buck 28 Share Long 26 Ravi Chivukula 24 Ann 21 turquoiseb 20 seventhray27 17 merudanda 17 curtisdeltablues 15 Richard J. Williams 15 Michael Jackson 14 salyavin808 14 Bhairitu 11 card 9 John 7 merlin 6 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 5 srijau 4 emptybill 4 Mike Dixon 2 feste37 2 at_man_and_brahman 2 Susan 2 Jason 1 sparaig 1 raunchydog 1 martin.quickman 1 Yifu 1 Dick Mays 1 Alex Stanley Posters: 30 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: And for one moment put yourself in Ravi's position when you make your accusations and dredge up irrelevant and old history that may or may not be accurate. Would you like someone to claim you were an abusive husband who was a terrible father and started talking about restraining orders or extra marital affairs, pedophaelia and God knows what else that had lurked in your past? Talk about what is relevant in the here and now. To reach back into past personal history about someone else's marriage and subsequent break up of that marriage is none of your business. And it certainly has nothing to do with the subject of Share. Use your discrimination and back away. Ann, you simply have an issue with accountability. If you've written something here, it is a matter of the public record. I can back up everything I have said. I have not made up any statement. What a shame you can't grasp that concept. It is also not my fault is certain posts have been expunged, for whatever reason. By the things you have written above, I assume to elicit some reaction, I am afraid you have revealed yourself as a troll. Please back up the innuendo you mention above. And please advise, where did I say anything about pedophilia, or extra marital affairs in regards to Ravi. What is your point in bringing these things up if they were not a part of the discussion? I suppose to create some kind of false impression. So please clarify Ann. I want to know why you mention pedophilia or extra marital affairs in association with me. You have brought it up Please clarify. Or if there is no grounds for this innuendo, then please retract it. Oh, and by the way, please clarify as well, this part about Ravi being a terrible father. Where did you get this Ann? Methinks not from anything I said. Just another skewed observation on your part. And finally Ann, I will use my discrimination and engage in a discussion as I see fit. Your original impulse to not get involved in this discussion was the correct one. Further complicated by the fact that you did not bow out when you indicated you were going to bow out. You will not see me defend my integrity any less that Ravi defended his, and for which I respect him. I cannot speak for him, but for me that fact that I was attacking what I felt was hypocrisy in his postings and not him personally was what allowed us to come to some resolution. This post from you has no element of integrity behind it, (if I may be so Robinesque)
[FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f)
No, Ann, you are way off base here. Unfortunately this is part of your inability to make distinctions about between what is innuendo and something that can be substantiated. I would not take exception to someone accusing me of psychological rape. Just make a case for it, and stay away from innuendo. And stay away from something that is strictly a matter of opinion. You are the one who brought up pedophilia and extra marital affairs. Neither of those had any bearing on the discussion. It was strictly troll behavior on your part, and quite out of bounds. I can take this as far as you want to go Ann. Since you are willing to bring up pedophilia and extra marital affairs in a context where it has no bearing, do you wish to discuss those subjects in the context of studio photographers where abuses have occurred? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: Read what I wrote again, you seem to have missed my point. The imaginary scenarios I brought up as examples of things someone could accuse others of are just that - ugly examples. And see, you didn't like it. So don't do this to others, especially about things that happened long ago. I can see you would have taken great exception to someone accusing you here of PR. That is obvious from how you reacted to the examples of shit people can say about others that I used here. You don't like it, don't do it to others whether you think stuff from the past is true or not. Unless you know for sure and it is relevant to the subject at hand STFU. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: And for one moment put yourself in Ravi's position when you make your accusations and dredge up irrelevant and old history that may or may not be accurate. Would you like someone to claim you were an abusive husband who was a terrible father and started talking about restraining orders or extra marital affairs, pedophaelia and God knows what else that had lurked in your past? Talk about what is relevant in the here and now. To reach back into past personal history about someone else's marriage and subsequent break up of that marriage is none of your business. And it certainly has nothing to do with the subject of Share. Use your discrimination and back away. Ann, you simply have an issue with accountability. If you've written something here, it is a matter of the public record. I can back up everything I have said. I have not made up any statement. What a shame you can't grasp that concept. It is also not my fault is certain posts have been expunged, for whatever reason. By the things you have written above, I assume to elicit some reaction, I am afraid you have revealed yourself as a troll. Please back up the innuendo you mention above. And please advise, where did I say anything about pedophilia, or extra marital affairs in regards to Ravi. What is your point in bringing these things up if they were not a part of the discussion? I suppose to create some kind of false impression. So please clarify Ann. I want to know why you mention pedophilia or extra marital affairs in association with me. You have brought it up Please clarify. Or if there is no grounds for this innuendo, then please retract it. Oh, and by the way, please clarify as well, this part about Ravi being a terrible father. Where did you get this Ann? Methinks not from anything I said. Just another skewed observation on your part. And finally Ann, I will use my discrimination and engage in a discussion as I see fit. Your original impulse to not get involved in this discussion was the correct one. Further complicated by the fact that you did not bow out when you indicated you were going to bow out. You will not see me defend my integrity any less that Ravi defended his, and for which I respect him. I cannot speak for him, but for me that fact that I was attacking what I felt was hypocrisy in his postings and not him personally was what allowed us to come to some resolution. This post from you has no element of integrity behind it, (if I may be so Robinesque)
[FairfieldLife] Curtis, Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: You still don't get it. How about, Treat others like you would like them to treat you. Get it now? Here is a corollary to that Ann. If you are going to put someone on the defensive, put them on the defensive for something for which they can defend themselves, not some innuendo for which there is no adequate defense. That also is how we treat others as we would want to be treated. It is difficult having a discussion with someone who has limited reading comprehension and an inability to put themselves in someone else's shoes. You appear to be one of those people. Gratuitous insult. Fair game. No harm no foul. And all this time I thought you were a fairly nice guy. Ann, does it occur to you that making a scurrilous accusation, or hint of a scurrilous accusation, totally out of the blue, may put someone in a defensive posture? If not, then you may be the one who may have something to learn in this regard. But these two characteristics create something else entirely. Moving on. Always wishing you well Ann.
[FairfieldLife] Steve, Share, Curtis, Barry (was: Curtis Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f)
Poor Judy. Poor, poor Judy. Maybe the world will come around sometime to your way of thinking one day. As for me, I can't read more than one or two sentences to get the gist of the same old, almost two decade old, tirade, in this case against me and Share. Tomorrow against Curtis and Barry. The next day against Xeno and who knows who. On and on it goes. Carry on Judy. With your truth (small t) banner, carry on! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: thanks Share. I often read posts quickly. I recall now that, that was the context. No, you recall no such thing. The context was yogic flying competitions: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/342992 Follow the thread, dummy. (And notice that your pal Share didn't have the honesty to correct you.) Perhaps the most perfect example of inadvertent irony yet on FFL: But no matter. There are always those who are ready to shift the context, whatever it may be, to suit their own ends. I think you know who they are. The ones who are always accusing of others of doing that exact same thing. And then there are the folks like Steve who accuse other folks of all kinds of misbehavior when it's actually their own poor memory, laziness, malice, and general stupidity that's at fault. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: hey Steve, actually THE story that I had in mind when I made that comment was a story that Buck posted a little while ago. It was a story about women in India having their own car on the train for safety's sake. So my comment was not referring to a story about a rape incident. As for Share, of course nobody said her comment was referring to a story about a rape incident; she made that up. Plus which, it's disingenuous of her to pretend her frisky fellers remark had nothing to do with rape because she was only thinking of the story Buck linked to about separate compartments for women on some Indian trains. In fact, that story was also very much about the prevalence of rape and violence against women in that country. It began: - Headlines in India's national newspapers tell the story of the state of women in the country. A sampling of what readers in New Delhi encounter makes for sober reading: Woman Alleges Gang Rape In Lawyer's Chamber. More Shame: Five Rapes In Two Days. Woman Resists Molestation, Shot Dead. India's media have been zealous about exposing the pervasive sexual violence in the country since the gruesome gang rape and subsequent death of a 23-year-old woman in December ignited an international outcry - http://www.npr.org/2013/03/28/175471907/on-indias-trains-seeking-safety-\ in-the-women-s-compartment Of course, her claim that she was thinking only of men who leer at and fondle women on trains leaves poor Curtis in the lurch with *his* claim that Share was juxtaposing the obvious level of horror of the incidents with language that got its message through to anyone who was not trying to use and absurd level of literal-mindedness for an unfriendly agenda. Memo to Curtis: When you're trying to protect poor Share from the obligation to be accountable for what she writes, and at the same time take nasty swipes at those who criticize her for not doing so, make sure first that your disingenuous spin doesn't conflict with hers. And while I'm at it: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Hilarious Jedi. Simply hilarious. This is the way normal people think. Or maybe you might have expected the brouhaha to go away after a couple weeks, or maybe a month, but I think we're going on eight months now with no sign of letting up. Hey, genius, before this becomes common wisdom among those not smart enough to check their facts or even to read both sides of a discussion: Share's accusation wasn't discussed at all here between mid-December and early April, close to four months. Psychological rape is not just a random insult, it's a serious, reputation-damaging charge for which, as it happens, there was zero basis (see my two posts to Susan). It was fully appropriate to spend the time we did on it. And as I told Jason, I and others tried his suggestion, but it didn't work. If Share had done the right thing and withdrawn her slanderous, baseless charge, the discussion of it would have ended there. And: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: (snip) Ann, como sa va? Comment ça va? You may get away with approximate pronunciation of foreign terms in live conversation, but you look really dumb when you put them in writing without knowing how to spell them. Thank you for your concern. No, I am alive and well, just trying to take care of business. I was inspired by Susan's post about Share's original
[FairfieldLife] Steve, Share, Curtis, Barry (was: Curtis Ann (was Re: CyberPanic, the update, f)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: Your most debilitating characteristic, Steve, is your extreme moral cowardice. Is that your final answer?
